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WARREN
OF' COM..'MON PLEA'S
COl:':;I~TY! OB
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'CASE NO.
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INTERVIElliI OF SK:CLAR RI SON
NTERVIEW DATE; Deena Schl
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DET. CARTER: Hi lar, I l 10 3
Katie can l t be here so j usc: she asked me t·o come.
with er 50 weB like, c·aTIf
be me today?
LT. FAINE: 8be is frie with
Katie and sbe is a detective Bran
detect e that wor ITIe. So she's y
to talk to
DE'T. TER: 1'11 just turn
phone- off. Is YDur one off?
SlKYLi1iR: I donlt have a e.
DKT. C2i.RTER: I kno\{ ne will 'start
going crazy.
LT. That 1 S a mean stion
use we ne
o ( ITm so sorry. I'rrl
so sorry; Skylar
LT. o r y - no.,
eT reason I did that r I was tal ng to
her I 5 weil, would you want me to call
h r reet on her phone or you want me 0 call
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DET .. CARTER: What are you nervous
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'SKYLAR:: (Inau ble).
BET. C2\.RTER: It 1 sal ot r it r s a
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11 LT. FAINE: This just like the other
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super nerVOUB. I uncl:e"Istana,
14 u .know, Ka I :calked to you the other
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look ck to Fri if you er sitting here
th us there wasn't i real bad or we never
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threateni or menacing
so. I erstand r, but t y1s 9 to
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started yelling at
just the sams, y? I.ve \lTOn 1 t re as long
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23 8 iLnd I! 11 get to horne
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LT. FAINE: l' TIl SO ?
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LT ~ FAI I think so r v... e
t·1 sour p d fS I j.ust told your
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T. CARTER: Just take :S Olr.-e
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9 situation, but d hr.eath.s. We r ve g-ot some
pa rwork c we have to do with e
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LT F...:L?.INE: n - y di 1 t
know your .s 1 Se is- is jus·t: t11€
No 18 ar ,old
the Social S€curity+ do they?
15 LT. FA TNE :1'.h i s same. This
17 is e same th t we did the other day. Are
18 you still working right ow?
19 SKYL}I,R: Yea h .
LT. FAINE: Is it at e Y?
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SKYLAB.: T h'8 At U-Tfi •
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DET. CJiRTEE.: t·' s li
arB in l 2.:n.t room or room
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It I S just cal cb d
wat w.atch eVe .f.tom six we e k s ton i n e
years old.
DET. CARTER: Okay, So do
all?
JJh huh.
o y.
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GET. CARTE.-R..: ND, we're just asking
you where YOll worked, t's just Ii conversation.
Welre just
SKYLAR: Okay.
LT. FAINE': We "",rer·e tal ng st
.Durselves earlier ther it was Countr Sider was
it in.g roo You ow, we're wn so
the rount si w., w.as it Count Si
rin ro?
DET. CARTER: have you been
there?
SKYLAR: t a ar. , va heen
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21 q',1estioning if you ,dan. You can c de at
any 1: to exercise tbese r bts and not answer
23 any at s or make any tatements.
24 Okay. If u will rea,d sone
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DE'T.. CARTER: What's r it-e
,age?
SKY LltR : Prob :"y t ~ ki
like six to nine rs ld.
g there s ce
y ,0'DET . _ ean I 1i that
ey wbine a ttle tDa mu r me. r "
the little bit 01 r .
LT. INE: Brooke" wee t re ing to
ust like we h other day. I mean S ar f .c,.BraD sitt c there but yOU! go by
S lar. If~l r these things out ud and
r tial t re if you can. tIs e
e-xac t form t we had the 0 r y. You
t ght to rema D si nt. h g s
and ",;ill be us iust you in a court of
You, have the t to talk to a and
i1e you're ing
afford to hire
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1 have yo read it out loud au"se t other y
urit ell t loS 0 just that,
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eka:y wi lL:( jt:st sign na..me on first
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SKYLAR: No, tha u.
T. CARTER: I just want to ma
LT. FAINE:
DET. ER: Did u du:ate t?
.sKY t1m-hmm .
LT. INE. She's going to uJre
DC. S lsgoing to to ~C.
DEer. CARTER: Go seho Are you
co.mmute or are u going to there?
SKYLliR; there.
20 DET. CARTER: ~hat will be fun.
21 LT. Okay. Like en you
22 first wal d in I just want to ask you h
23 thi s are going b it1s P ly pretty rou
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LT . PAINE: Rave you had a
e to ta~k or
SKYLAR:; y I ve been tal ng to
mOE a lot.
LT," FAl NE: A l a't? ay. 'Are 'they
ingo y? I m,ean I ow this is r y hard
u but tJs ha for th€m as parents too. D6
t y seem i they'1 re db g or
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LT. INE: Okay. Do YDU thin k do
t e a tter ea of wha t! S ing now
siLl.ce all that en ance
and 11m just kind of cur us. I IteaTl I ki of
won r for t al1se I OW thBY were just
really ing to get so~e answe=s the other day.
An d I was I i f we 11 r i t will be so mn c h e as i e r I
you OWl if you talk to Skylar. You ow! and
ust talk.
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last saw yQU on Fr
Yea,h. Friday, so,
stuff so we're doi
at I will do, right now is 1111
.:... we 1 ve been iog since I'L.,
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you know~ we took phones and
like what I deseT to
t: t ana ysis of the nes a stuff. But then
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stuff? I mean because a t of people do newu and
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like un}::·elie Ie how r 'Ow f t Y can de;,
that stu and just ex ne at stuff; . So then
hey i r.e like c.al ors olve ng to
Be prob y half as 9 as you've been al
So t ylve en their part Ie welre
our part.
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us a lot of conversation with the two
doctors primarily that have really been - rea ly
ef:. 100 ng at her remains. We have some I:lOr€
qu€stions, 'Okay?
DE! C.~RTER: u tell them to
go ahead -
LT. F~~INE: I' so
DET. ER: The team, did you text
SKYLAR: At our house?
DET. C.7J..RTER: No. We've got another
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SKYLAR: Are you go 9 to take me
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14 LT. Irm sorry?
15 SKYLAR; Are you going to take
me away?
17 LT. PAINE: t a sec, would
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19 I'm list so scared.
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21 s II m just so s·ca
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23 DET. CARTER: Just bz:-eathe.
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3 LT_ FAINE: ~his is just like the
other day_ Rerr-e.mber I kep-t telling you that just
5 like nGthing r ·eal bad --we're not here kYecause
6 yoti did anything bad like that Dr threaten YDU, or
7 nothing like that. Welre just trying to find out,
you know, the truth for her. Remember we talked
9 about that. And you, y o urself, i~ like I k now sh~
1D des·erved - - I know .s be des eTvsd better.
11 SKYLAR: ' (Inaudible).
12 LT ..FAINE: So do we. Remember T so
13 do we. I talked to you! I kno"", you are a scar'ed
14 18-y.ear-old girl thact until. Friday you carried
15 this on y o ur own, you know, and we know that.
16 Jl~nd, you know, I mean, ",'etalked a long time
17 Friday, okay? And it riever turned na~ty or
18 anythin~ like th~t. It's not going t6 today.
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Y'ou dn~t want to push to ha
caDse she W:alS a and D:e-w t
j u.s t ::0 k re was no heart at You
he he.:: for a little bit t re like on lap.
then you wrapp ber in a towel a you 'w·ent
dowTIstair b. rnta. egarage. Got
called like I'm just go n~ to call like
mom f s n shovel or SCHn-e 9 1 t t ...
took her -out and t her itt sbe ow grave
:c out the c rd. you dn Itt the
in there, you just L h€r i~ re a
v.ere.d he.r up. ? I s that d o.es t bat sound
ike t we talked- eut Fxi o
Well, nov.' ere we are - obv usly,
we ere t re a long time that day and
dig 9 up her rem~ins eve t g.
king with o VB
this, you f thBy'v.e en working a
s just ~ith her remains, OWf just
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ve a lot ·0 f e v idenee t hat the y h a v e 13 res en f:. edt 0
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DST. CARTER~ We just want to put
5 her to rest. We waD~ her -- here!s the thing~
5 listen, honey, I know that this is terrible
7 situation, okay? Just listen to me, okay? You
8 are not the only IS-year-old girl who's been in
9 this situation that it was too late to have an
10 abortion and your entire life is about to be
11 fucked, okay? So just breathe. But the important
12 thing about it is Dot me, not you, not him, what
13 matters is ber. Ok-ay?
14 I think that you want to giva he~ a
15 proper burial and you want to giv-e her a prOper
16 final resting situation. But in order to do that
17 we need to know everything, okay? You cannot go
18 back and change anything that YDU did. But we can
19 . have it out there and you can just say itrokay? ____~ ____.___~__~__________,_____,~___ .~.-----------.---.-- ...----~ _____._"___.._. _ ___ ________ N_. __._._._
20 If you need t6 close your eyes to say it if vou
21 need to whatever, but i'[.'s very important that you
22 tell us everything that happened because the
23 doctors ,already know r okay? They I ve alr €ady
24 shared with us what happened.
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like J,,1hy or kind of what you were thin.king or, you
wh-at "roul·d push SOlll'e'One to
feel like this was the only option, you kDO\\; -
SK'YL1'.F.~ You think I ki ll2d her?
DET. Cl'~RTER: Th.at.! ,s not wbat I" m
saying. That's not what 11m saying. Whet 11m
saying is what hapP€['J. .ed when youd-ecided that you
were -- before you buried her f okay? So a l l of
those th i ngs we need to know, okay. They) re .going
to be able to tell us medically what happened. So
it's really important be~ause I want to know why,
I want to know~ you knowj did you feel like that
~;ras your only option? Did. you f -e:e1 like you had
DD ch oice? You kn:o:w, so those are- 8om-e things
that we know. Okay?
We obviously knDw she was buried
because we found her. And then there's things
tbat they can tell from the tiss0e and stuff
things happened. I thlnk -- I think, I think yo u
were try i ng tO f I don't kn ow maybe minimize what
~Vl7a s there~ make it e as i e r.r I don 1 t knoi-.7 but th e re
were some other things that happened before she
was put in the ground. Let1s talk about that,
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3 BET" C70RTER: When &be ~ame out or
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DET. ER~ 0 So d Bee
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DET. CARTER: Y€ah,. Se like t"S
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,SKYLF.R: ite I th k.
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16 were they pink, were they red, were y
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Hl DET. CARTER:
was the cord? Was here? Was it on ,l,. L
side? Was it \\7r all the wa ar,ound her?
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23 DET. whatld YDU
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SKYLAR: Just a " tIe, yeah.
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wou ! t come off? y. Is it poss Ie t t s
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SKYLAR: e.
DE T. 'CAR T ER : ,0 y ( ;) ka y . So
ri toge the co aDd cou { was there' .L.
Ta t - I' V8 h.ad a s ·not t .i.. have.
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a whole lot of other crap that comes out. So is
it poss Ie that because you were on he to t
n had her?
SKYL.\R;
DEI'. --:t: sit ssible
that s wentdo'wrl let for a se
SKYLAR; Yeah.
DET~ CaRTER: Okay.
SKYLAR: I t ed to catch rr I
coul 1 t. She fell.
DST. CF.R'IER: rels no wa she!s
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s e ght
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DET. CARTER: Okay. So were you
sitt~nq on the toilet? Were you s
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I 4 DET. CARTER: So she £,all51
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SKYLAR,:
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13 DET. CARTER: o Was 5 ng
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15 SKYLAR: I don! t i
DET. CARTER: A little ck Dr
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119 DET. CARTER: 11, it s ha to "--~----- ...-~
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21 cord was aro r neck after you saw r in the
toilet or ?
23 SKYLAR: Eve ng just came out at
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ow was her rt under the w~ r?
SKYLAR: onrt kr n:o.
LT. FAINE.: Okay. How d she ok
J... • .as you looked J-.G '[ toilet?
DET. CARTER: e d k
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DET. CARTER: \';.erf';; there li ke
bles or an Somet s there 1 s 1 ike
bubbles. Do r er seeing when YOil
ock~d at fa ce? \ii/as r face e water or
like to the side or was not? If you remember.
Oka . But she was head first. When said
maybe b her d d hear samet ngr
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T. CltRTER: Ye they corne ot:t
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2 DET. CARTEB,~ Okay.
3 SKYLAR: ImeaI1 I wanted to catch
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DET. CARTER: You can't, ~hBy're too
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LT. FAINE: Doctors have a hardest
time too . Even wbenth-e do,ctor is sitting therB
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11 CARTER: They're covered in the
goop. Okay. So maybe she was breathing. Sbe was
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15 did you like walk away? Did you kind of stand
16 back2...L"'1d think what am I going to do now? IrV'hat
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18 SKYLAR: I kinda (inaudible). I was
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20 DEi'. C~:liRTER: A lot 0 f hlo od _ What
21 out the placenta? It 1 s big like -- it looks
22 like a big thing of meat, 'what did y:ou d'O with
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24 SKYLll.R: It came out a little after.
25 DET. CARTER: Okay. What did you do
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DET. CARTER; 0 y. So S \.\ras in
o et for a coucle of minut s. What you
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res, t do her?
KYLAR: I put her n the towel.
DET. CARTER: Okay- T
SKYLAR: I her. hold heer
to-o. tight.
DET. C1LR.TER: Do you feel Ii she
was reathing when you were holding a you
held too ti t?
s ha ng head no.)
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LT. HE: n you - so can
deser for me like taking her but of the to let.
Li ke how d you take rout -- b~cause put
her in t towel, ow did you ta~e ber out of
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-:LT. FAYNE: YDu~re acting with you~
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5 reme..rriber like ~where you Ii ft her? Did you try to
get like her neck? 11m just p uring her head
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SKYLAR: I tried to get her
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11 just trying tD ask because w~ weren't there abd
12 ""ere just tryi!1g to make sure, you know,
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14 SKYLAF. : I just w-anLed r to be at
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16 DET. CARTER: You know, nobody
17 really fully I thi~k rests In peace unless you
18 know thatls exactly what happened. and if you
19 watch an of those shows like you see eople like I--·----·---------------~'-------- ---.------.---- --.----.--.---.--....------ - ----.
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21 out what happened so that they caD be at rest and
22 so can the family member that di·ed. So thatls all
23 we're trying to do is find out what bappened so
24 that we can put the medical stuff with, you know,
25 wha t bappened. And that 1 s only going tD come from
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al';on8. I know your parent.s were in the Il-€-xt. rOOID,
[rut you 'were 311 alone. It 'vi';a S just yo'nand hcr.
So you I re the only one that can help us, she
c an 1 t, 0 kay?
8.0 y-oune:e-rl t·o do tbs right thing
right nowaod just tel~ us e~erything that
happen-ed . Even if i ts u c k s to say it, just t e l I
llS everything that happened. and we can mov'e aD,
Ok3Y?
LT. FAINE: You knDwJ Brandi ~nd IT
we talk to so many people that after the fact, you
knDw, they! re like thatfeelin.g 'onc.e they final 1 y_
tell the truth .a.rld then -get it out b-ecause I bet
it ha.s prob.ably bothered you some bec.ause I can
tell that you care. It bothered you some since
Friday, since we talked, you know, since you knew
I didnrt get the truth and you still had to carry
20 So like Brandi said - letrs start
21 there. So now you picked her out from the toilet
22 and you wrapped he r in a towel and held her
23 easily. And just be truthful now and let's go
24 from there and tell us the truth.
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SKYLlI.:R: ( Inaud • 1
JE? CARTER: I know.
I ZE:d her. ,
DEl'. CARTER: It'fg ok 1.:1 C2.nltr
it - 1 S .okay, were trying.
SKYL1LR: I think 11m t one
killed her.
DET. CARTER: Okay. Okay.
K I kil hex. You
ink I 1 r on purpose.
DET. CARTER: Skylar, no one
believes th~t.
I squeezed her. I loved
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DET. CARTER: Skylar r no one
that u QuId i to harm r on
No .one believes that, y?
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DE~. CARTER: Listen to me
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We are in saJIle - we
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12 LT. FAI1~E: It's important
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14 t? I'i"hatT2:{ her name.
15 SKYLAR~ Ann lIe.
16 DET. CARTER: Annabelle r okay. Ca
17 cS 1 ber Annabelle?
18 SKYLAR: Okay.
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23 SKYLAR: I am so .sorry.
24 DET. CARTER: LetTs just p
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Can I go home with my
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DET. CARTER: I canlt answer th~t
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happened. I 'haven't finished talking to YOll,
okay? All right. You think u squeezed her to
hard because she -- and I feel like when you say
that maybe you thought sbe was breathing before
and you didn't mean to. I don't think you meant
to, but you squeezed her too hard. H-ow long do
you ~hink you were squeezing her?
SKYLAR: Just a little bit, a little
bit.
DET. CARTER; Okay. What makes you
think you squeezed her too hard? Like what makes
you think that looking back now, not th€n, but
looking back now?
SKYLAR: I squeezed hard, like not
so hard, but just like, I just (inaudible).
DET. Cil__'R.TEP.: lLT1d you think that "s
when sb-e died?
SKYLAR: Maybe.
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DET. ·CARTER: But you donlt ~ave any
h sa 1 t hiss ':! e s{ t. you1re pretty healthy?
SKYLF...R:
You're 18, so a y.
Did she look pr€ t he thy? rHearl
proba y seeD b ies be£ore( did sh-e look pr-etty
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SKYLAR: S was ki21d of g.
DET. CARTER: Yeah. Li thatl s
pretty hea thy. I t fnk thatr~ a good t en
babie's look bigger tfi.:;n e
u1re not a sIDDker, ri tV
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DET. CARTER: Tbat's B.ecC'luse
if she was tiny that WOll meant you smo
So you think rna t s when it h ned.
then and +- ze
.:.. atls she IS Ii not alive or "',Then doL
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SKYLAR: Wbat fire?
;:JET. CARTER.: ere's 50me vidence
to sh·ow t.hat tbere was some burn cn her.
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th I didn' t- rn her. s 1 ts of
fbonf ires 1 but I d t her.
DE:!'. C}iRTER:T re I S .hee.n some
and s tuf.f on Rome of so
S-KYLAR: I 1+ I..
DET. ER: Are you sure?
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DET. CARTER: Are u sure?
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LT. ?tUNE: WaS t rEO
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SKYLAR: No. And I did Dothi
fire, no i
DET. TER: kay.
LT. FAIME; Is it
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SKYLAR: No.
LT. FAINE: I don't mean with a lit
fire, but put her in fire pit?
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at out like some 0 heat source? Was re
any heat invol any 1 ? This would have
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DET, CARTER: No ;"Ta v'e r no oven?
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em some ·of have 5urere charr
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10 DET. C1LB.TER: That l,S t we!re
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there! s some sort ofw.a t t we can figure
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our bones get like that. from all accounts
17 he 1'00 li a pretty healthy normal from
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quest and the only reason is s e th,er,e is
16 forensic me al e dence where they have been
17 thr.ou there, some of what she sa not all ofI
them, but there are some different vert ra and
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was some fatty tissue at burn on one side
21 a not e other. So the doctors know ~het there
was £ire .of some sort or some of bu ng.
23 ey know for cert in. no matter what you
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DET. CARTER: It 1 S not it' gnot
on er Ice. It's not on her I' i t 1 s all
Ii lower body. So I wonder if i t\,)as jus t
one of those 9 3 re just tho t jl,Tell
ma e I can this and - because I think like
with crenation 1 '-w i ::0 some a s
at I can keep my ughter and ke t
because '- u realize t wasn't a good id€2
because you're a d person. That's he:: I t k
he ened use ere is some arring, it's
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1T. FAINE: abelle serves
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SKYLltR.: s int I WOll tell
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11 DET. R: We just need to ow
VI' h Y tb ere yJ-3 S a fir e .
13 SKYLAR: e towel 'VIta S ack.
14 . CARTER: No. is is act y
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LT. Ffl.IlITE: Yeah! B:i1d I know -- 1 i
th~ 0 er nay, I just want to do right by r
to do rig by hel. W :1, we have a
friend you }cnow, we have tbese bracelets on
t say 822, was one our best friends Nrho was
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11 trY to cremate her 5e tbatls, yeu k:i1ow,.
12 tha t·! s very ac 1 e r ttl s norma 1 . It1s iD
the B Ie! es toa-3n.es, st to st. I mean
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11 use t bones were charred. And it wasn't
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n'1 "r19 t ~ ~J. heart were, Oll
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ow where heart and were, but you have
to tell us because I can r t assllrile that I you
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16 mean I th Jc I know but I don't know eve i g.
17 So we need to tell us. n ",1ere ere. You
18, know, it's not a ju ..... L r Skylar F it 's not
u. and
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i tever u can fix at that point
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I don r t want to t we s in ur mOll 5 lar.
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th.i I w bas en what I know of
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DET. ER: 50 you! re ho her,
squeezing heT r ens ri t after that?
Just kind of }.fB lk me thr like eve hing. So
u j re. her [ eeze r and t n at
3re u w~'1at are you thin ? Just k d of
like close your e 5 r put urself back ere and
just walk me th it like I was t.here. I want
to 1 like I was t re th you to ow t
SKYLAR: Do I get t.o g.o th
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any g lIe until we know eve hing.
We would have to know not just Wh2~ happene t
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mind? What was of ukno",r I going thr-ougnf
ur head? o.c those things are .:ttan
t ings t ow. r ' st answer tI canL
questions llntil we ow what h ned.
We know me cally what h ened, but
there's a big ference. I think ",reuld agree
etween someone throw~ng someone in a fire
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But now it"s Annabelle.
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throw ber on a fir~ and yeah, that sort of
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Just ,\.;alk me thro You're h r, just
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that you w€-re king and everyth 9 u did just
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SKYLAR: I t t I could cremate
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DE . CARTER: ere'd you put her?
SKYLAR~ In a
DET. CA~TER: No, I mean like fo::e
he Ii er re wa's e?
SKYLAR: In Lhe ground. And I
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SKYh.~R : (Ina l e.)
.uET. CJU~TER: Try to er lee
where.
SKYLAR: s was i n .th'e r e .
DET .. ER: -In the h e? So you
hole first? 0 y? t n you put r
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SK:"LAR: I buried her.
DET. ER: Where'd you put
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SKYLAR: I guess I just -
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DE T. CARTER: Wb at pea r't 0 f the
remain.s? Like did you start like at the bottom,
at the top?
SKYLAR~ At the bot. t ·om .
DET. C.Ii.RTER:Okay_
LT. FAINE: Did you ha~e anything
else or use anything to help try to light it? You
know, because usually at the crematorium there's
t h i Dog S t h-a t .roa.k e i tintense to bel p tb e pro ce s s .
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1T. FAINE: I'm sorry?
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1,T. FAINE: You didn1t?
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23 SKYLAR: Yeah.
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okay.
DET. CARTER: th.en did it·
ever -- did reJIla sever 'co fir'E? Li was
there an actual fire?
SKYLAR:
LT. FAINE: ?
SKYLAR: 1'1 a A lit e
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DET. CARTER: Dkay.
LT, FAINE: rk outs de or
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SKYLAR: Dark.
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L1. F.A1NE- Okay. And are you
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as king just to sure.J: know c;ame out
I mean Ii I said you've been c r-a.t
me. Remember you came out day an bowed us
exactly ere sh was and €ve
which hBlped u it he1perl get her ck€r. So
it fielDed Ann 1.e . Seer eve ng r
every time us e tTU c ntilllles to
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welre go 9 to get it all the way closed and welre
going to get r( li know, back to T family
ere she belongs ~o a real,
r tru ur 1 ere she's red. p"nd
like you said t other daYT you wer c ng bard
ufre like s deserved tter 1 she
deserved bette You're right she does a she's
about to t you know r s I S about to get
better Ii she deserves better Better- than
being in 1 with CtOT Sf u just
sear ing and 5 ing and po n and ever ing,
u knew T now w.e I r€ gett ing t truth from u so
can be e all of at. Can you -- 5·0
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SKYLAR; No. ( Ina ble. )9
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12 SKYLAR: e. Maybe - I tr d to
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DET. CARTER: t made u decide
you wanted get it out?
16 SKYLAP. : I was wrong.
17 LT. FAINE: It just felt wrong?
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2 SKYL..ZiR: NOr nv.
DET. TER: There wasnJt any e
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24 LT. FtUNE: So when you tried to
at did you ? Bow did u try to put
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2 IDEl'. CARTER: V,-ou. t get I'n
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17 SKY1AR: I don I. t think.
18 LT. FA n~"'"E : Because a lDt of t s
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DET. C]>'~RTER= Thirty rwtes?
SKYLAR: (Icau Ie) I e l t
DET. CARTER: So at sbme P Dt
let me ask you this, what made I ow you
id you t it was wrong, t :;ua you I
'-j..ve to out? l,- sO.rne another
ou t ? W.asi t as it was get t i n~g c er to ber
ce or was it _lust know, the smell Dr was.f
ere another ng that just ki made you
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LT. FAINE: I mean s I
tand tbat ! s wny I ask se that
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tr e f f he-cause '[ "-L
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I said ear ier if it was dark t's 9 to
dra~ attention and it's ingtD ma 'war
ut someone coming out. if you feel li
youlrs rna e dog Barneth wr 're Dot
ng_ to want someone to walt out a
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? yget all the flames aut r were to
d that?
Yeah.
LT. FAINE- Oka And
are you sure dn' use an ng, any water or
a·I} hi YO-u j list got eID out using dirt?
.. It too, ah,
LT. I Okay!' using t rt.
t dD you do next:
SKYLAR: I buried her.
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LTFAINE: en wh-2t d do?
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DET. CARTE.R : Then '",'[hat?
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was there when w went Gut.
DET. CP-.:...'RTER: Then w GO
fDr yourself? Like what d you do I mean at
is point you1ve l:l th a lot; so t
you do?
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DET. CARTER: 0 y. Is that re
you put i in the trash can th gouts ?
SK-YLAR: (N-odd
DET. CARTER: ay. And u sa
SKYLAR:
"-?u bu t blace:'1ta too., r L. • Did put
that in - what order d you put at in verses
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Afte~[. I think.
D~rn'::..L CARTER: Was it after the fire
,or Wl the fire? Just Ii if have an i a
if was in t.here or not. is is kind of a
wei thing to nd of car a 1i it's an
odd r it! san matter. Was - lo.L me ask you~l...
t Sf was it st 1 ,attached'? Like you cut the
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The cord came O:.1t_ I
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DET. CARTER: You didn't cut the
cord from h~r?
SKYLAR: No.
DET. CARTER~ Because the cord is
attached. Was it still attachsd to the placenta;
do you remember?
SKYLAR: No.
DET. CARTER: Okay.
SKYLAR.: I don't remember, it might
have been ..
DET. CARTER; tJ.sually the COId is
attached to the baby and then it's attached to the
placenta which is inside of you but it comes out
after birth. So usually it's still attached. So
like when babi~s are born they cut the cord, you
from the
placenta. Did yell ever cut it?
SKY L.~R.: N·o .{ nD .
DET. CARTER: So it still would have
been attached then to her?
SKYLAR: Maybe, I didn't think it
was attached to her.
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put the p centa in U'I re not sure?
y. that may have 2 :well ?So l;et me
just ask you tbis very important stion, aY,7
ec.ause it IS really ortant I mean t ~7:e
alr.e to us most of 'Okay. At
point I e1 11 r you W, you ! r·e a mom nDW,
u' had a kid, I know she d .! t rna. it yo
had a kid, so you have t 1: kind of int tioD. At
what point you fe 1 1 she st breathi
'.j..as lJ.- in the oilet? n you w-ere ezing
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SKYLAH: I di 't think shB was
reathing en s cameoilt.
DET. CJtRTEK: Okay. What made
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SKYLAR: I don't
DET _ CARTER: Did uli ke see her
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t t.
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LT. FAINE: L~ke a little g~rgle
s ? You Yo...TIo'W.r t'hi sis I. S is tant
because I ow us a of truth
LlDW t i 's besn rea 1y hard to get to ths
..:l- , , ..I.. ~ ,L r'-c L n! D know. And Ii when we firs asked y
out fire~ you know, t at was just bas on
Dot cause we were re, but just ba on all
the e der;ce that the doctors e us. W we
firs said at, u like you lea:1ed backJ
and SD,
SKYLAr:;.: I ow.
LT. FAINE: But then as it tU7DS out
you ow you decider ay, I am going to
just going to tell them hat. So, you ow, this
has Annabelle, she was a 9 s i z ed rIDean S D e
was a od siz ttle rl. You!re a healt
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9 SKY LJl..R : S what are y cu ys
lOsaying?
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CET. CARTER: No, 1i I W t we were
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"I wha-c and you said I mean you got
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said I feel li I kill ber en I w,a s s zin-g
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ttentioD
23 DET. CAR Like ",?hat? 1: do
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the tDilet faster?
LT. PAINE.
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knew -- I th k that as
basically felt like
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mom'l but I ow
reJs a stronger bond
in ~he whole world than .i5 a e1:
.and their :children, boyar girl, i ver y
have. So
DET. CARTER: You owe t t to her to
tell-
imm-ed tely fell in h her and
made those -- you said YOll worri
accidentally, you did sDmethi ere we.reso
manYITLOre things cou ve Ire
still -- you1re just hal some ing bac. You
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....to "- you to say rna or anythi~g, just
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23 u" re so, ire so cl0.s8 and u were so s sere
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little bit, you know, but I rt th k Ll killed
her But I believe that based On eve h
talking to you and I just believe that there were
signs tha she was aIiveat first. And then I
It think you tr to 11 r. 3-u tIth i :n k
e ",~ere s s that shawas, and I want you to
p ase for her just tell me t 1 us \.,rhat
How Q u know rstr you ow,
that she was prob y alive just a Ii tIe bit?
SKYLAR: e t t I saw her
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acr-o'ss bere ere are certain bings eD.
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expI2 s s i on was tha t Y{Hl :we re so :s cere like you
tru felt,a ul li udid something. But you
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for IDO percent surer I ow that somehow u
ow she was a1 like be re that. And thatls
y youfre war ed dn't somet n9 that
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SKYLAR~ Well, I k t
ave ill a noise.
LT. ?AINE: IVJade a se? a 1: kind
f noise?
s Ma e a little no se, a
5e like -- n I 't hear another one.
LT. FAINE: dn I t r an er one?
is nature because tbat's what I
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LAR: d 1 t he·a r it. a D.
LT.. FAI1'JE: o y ..
DET .. CA.RTER: Was tha like when 5 e
s .I.. 'in e LOl or was that when you were
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SKYLAR! I think it was when was
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and then not another ound?
LT. FAINE: Like r sa: en you·
ho ht then maybe heard one more e?
SKYLF~: No, I said I dn't hear
nother one I donft think.
DET. E.R: Just the one.
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g18 sound?T.ell us about ause one
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SKYLAR: e Ihave mDv but
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LT. FAINE: I r s ti:L'ld .
DET. CARTER- Ye # a baby just fell
DDt of your I mean t would .be sho
F.FiINE; That 'would shoe ng.
Youfre doing ~his by urself in your bat om.
You're p2.rents are home. B when you did - when
you did finally look, t else were you able to
see or d you SS~ an arm either arm
move or both arms move at some int when you did
loc-k?
Itls a T we're just tr ng to
get. 1 4 m just trying to know - want to be
Ie to tell the or what all si s you saw.
How you ow the b was al just a little
just t t-o help t.
SKYLAR.; I saw ~er arms rna e a
little bit moving u 1 e J •
DET. CARTER: Wasthet also en
was the toilet?
s Yeah, I th k and I picked
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LT. FAINE: What ut 1 beca.Gse
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SKYL]LR: 1'1a a, but t way e was
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say, ~mayber" what does that mean because we're
not trying to put wDTds your mouth, S lar, at
alL r just -- I ow t you made it clear that
she was alive a~ I st
DET. CARTER: I mean you a.t
happen We khOW, you just have to say it.
LT. FA It·' soy f 1 ike I t d
U f n i changes. Every you tell us rha
truth nothing is changi you know
SKYLAR: -leah, I fro just real rea
for it to over. I It want to to jail.
LT. F.;'INE: Dear r I ow you are so,
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t d c ed to wbere we were last Fri y.
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23 DET4 CARTER: k ut w proud
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LT. FA:LNE: It's okay.
DET .Cll... RTER: What I d say?
I 1 TIlsca red.
DET; CARTER.: I ow. Dc you t k
tbat lea her the toi t is at st d r
breat,h ? Bec.ause I kn01A1 before you said you
tho t it was when s eezed r f but
SKYLAR: ow. I
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1T. FAINE: Or when u pul
n you got her out of he toilet I guess the way
VI e ! 11 at j Sky1 a r f is yeu the r 0 u t
O.I the toilet d u s 11 ha~e Eore signs and
t's so then thatis what e think the
squeez did it or -
SKYLAR; 1'1 a e. I dian! t thi.nk I
saw a art beet.
LT. FAIl~E; I can underst
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ba 's heart beat is kind of -- kind of fferent
a t y're so t YI youfre not going to feel her
in·g. But 'when I would ink
when you did get r out of the 'Coilet.'
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DET, C]!.RTER: If she was still alive
to fi e out was l~, you
knew., ,her let that'~ when it ha en or
because I ow you said beard e in
e t ilet and then didn r t hear aTIymore.
I dn~t hear it because of the towel i I was
hal her.
DET. CARTER: At wha point, because
there's ays that definLlg marneIn: at- t
moment d ow that she waB gone? Because
can j u,s t , I rnecan apIa' ki of tUrn dif rent
colors and you can tell.
SKYLAR: (Inaud Ie,.)
DET. CARTER: You just d t lookI
Skylar. look at her did ever
look at her face Dr just was samet ng you
were tr ng to aVDid?
SKYLAR: (Inaudible) ,
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L7.FAINE: s did .. D y. Bee us e
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s.ome·fuz z and some have nose. So do 'you t nk
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7 LT. F.ZiINE: W':.i1 ate 0 1 0 r \\' a s
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LT. FF.INE: .7ust rk?
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15 DE:'-T. CARTER: I ow, but I It
1£ w if they're till here .or if they ran to gel:
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L m .1 • FAINE: I th k they were just
2D something
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LT. FAINE}: In her ee, could u
1 Ii lD her face did she look like you?
mean d she -- so'met s it s hard to tell with
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SKYLAl?: ; (Ina ud Ie I .
DE? CARTER;
doctor. I !t expect you to be to r
I just want to be clear abcnrtr you know l
what point you thou t she was gone. That IS .all r
I just nd of wanted to know for her.
LT. FAINE: Let's ask th
S lar, how - a again, I don't ct u
s was alive li just your clo~est es's? I
mean I know Ire not sure how long she was in
toilet, t how would be your closest
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SKYLAR: ( Inaudio . )
25 DET. CZillTER; A lot. It's a iot to
1 do wi::h :a t'eam of to::-s let alone by urse
2 SD I get it Just l- to "I. so that we have an
3 idea bow long she was alive.
4 SKYLJI..R : (Inaudib yeahr ma e.
5 DET. CARTER; Okay. I know you
~aid earlier you .ITta e .and 'we 1 re not
7 ho you to it, Skylar r rna s was
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9 of out. Okay. That's all nt. Okay f
10 J'ust breathe. You 1 ve t to ke
11 breat.h Take breaths.
12 SKYLAR: Are we a t dOhe?
13 I think so, h. We're
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SKYLAR; I want to
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21 'vi n I s·ay this is where we're at, this t is
the last rt ause it!s - \\7e r r€ just t iog to
23 f e out now this is like how .she was
24 alive, you w. We that u had scm"€:
in cations that she was. We also believe that 25
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3 it h ens Ii era:ly every y. I te to say
at 'Chat liter2.11y ens every, eve
single day~ rim just try to just try5
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7 two Dutes? Do y"Te thi it w·as fi VB IT: tes? Do
8 we think it was ten minutes? You knew, it
it doesnlt e hings if it was five
10 nutes or ten nutes or 20 nutes -or 30J
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12 SKYLAR: I caTl1t E, it was so
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14 DET. CAR'I'ER: ve that she
15 was alive or five utes that she was the
16 toilet?
17 SKYLAR: Ma e she was ali~e. I
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21 L'.1'. FAINS: Was she ever - was she
ever enough t t you were worried
23 som oay mi t hear her?
24 SKYLAR: No.
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LT. F:P.:.INE: You don't th k sbe 1A'as
or -- because :::: 0",' in the house u ' re stairs,
YOD1re tbe ba:: it could - you ow,
IO-OInS -were - e rooms are d of close.
Did sn c ? Because if she was if she was
alive that 10Dg I wou1 defin ta y xpect she
would c least a 1 ttle bit. I y,'2'SD I t there
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sensit to their b , s~ c tben anyone r u
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16 SKYLAR: Iv:laybe a little bit. But
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20 SKYLAR: I mean just a gu g1e.
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22 L"'. PAINE: You It 1 her.
23 Now we're just tr to get the tru so we can
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LT. FAlhJE: We're n r we ~oLlt. No
U 5 ¥, it's not g to ba Xl no
matte:: we'7e both heari doi this for So 0
We' e both rents of ki 01 r an you. We're
neither O::1e go t'0 of n become
someth ff €reBt. So no ma ~er what say
it1s not - you know, ~e - we1ve children,
even c 1 en we've never met r you so we"re
t t e 'S a·'['[[€ sit u a t ion I t h ink re
are ...Lean te 1 -now' at you are just
to get all the truth out for An elle r
know" because e you said, Skjlar,
it more than a h ng. s serves it
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that u hea was t before you
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SKYLAB.: Just a iit crying.
LT. FAIN2: A little ?
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DET'. C]l.,,",-BT"ER: I'vas t ;: the toilet
or out side of the toilet?
SKYLAR: In toil t.
DET. R: kay. YOU!Ve een
pretty consistent ut the fact that the only
noise you really eard was when she was in t
o let; is hat t?
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DET. C.ZiRTER: e only
vement you sa"r was when she was n the to let?
.SKYLAR: Yeah .
DET. CARTER: I dor! t t t n k I
It think s strayed from that. I know u
e war ed about s ezing r and balding h rr
is at ri ?
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24 ow about Ann lIe, or that Annabelle n
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eel like o sey ox like need to
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LT. FAINE: I r 11 be back in a S€c.
DET. CA:RTER~ YOll feel 1i you told
us ever h 9 because we eve bing he
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11 lot. Do you eel c you so ell you'-1
face Ar:n lle up t ere told US eve
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reI s not else? 0
15 S LlLll: Am I go 9 to jail?
16 DET. CARTER: don't what!s
17 going to ha That is not up to us, 0 y. Do
18 u feel like keeD sing that do you feel
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what's go o en because eare
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co rativ-e telling us t ed r
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control the future. It know at',s ng to
h en to I know that, I re ,a
9 gir and J ve got your :wn ure a ead
of you. You just need to think about Annabel
SKYLF.R': Yeah.
!JET. CARTER: 0 y. And De ud of
yourself for be hones today. Because a t of
people would ave 1 ed, you know_ A lot f people
that donlt £are about their ds wou hav.e lied.
Okay. Dsly you were honest. aka You
care out fuln You Ire worr
uti u know! r l her resting a you worry
bou But s will help the doctors get
VB hing processed and then they can t t
f ~ '-1ernains Dack to _c.,ml--L¥ a then can,
20 to_,do? Do y want to do a funeral? Do
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22 I want a funeral.
23 DET~ CARTER: What do your parents
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him to come then. Li I said, I k
we are the only oneB re. I do It know f t re
lsan else here, so we ave to for
t'G c.ome ba c k. k they ran to y, y
s thev were going to t some inq but I don't
tv. Jl.etuallYr phone's een on I.loor
while we were talking. I'm sure you it
buzz like crazy. I heard my one goi
t I hel lit could be thing. at kind of
schedule to ydu work at the Y? Do you work like
fu11-t e?
SKYLAR: No.
DET. CARTER: -NO / okay.
Li a week.
DET.. CARTER: Like now reany hours?
SKYU\R: Four or f ve.
DET. CARTER: How would so is it
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w there T 2 lot., a lot of bleeding. Lots and
lot.s of bleedin 9 . Did u have iea:: ?
worried out a hing with ur b or
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Okay. Do e1
like you need to t checked u~ and make sure
you're okay?
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DET. CARTER~ I -when I bad a
kid I was 21, I fe t like my entire in ides were
falling cut so I saw a doctor.
SKYLAR: (Inaudib e).
DET. CAR E.R; I think that mi be
t he's doing, 11m not sure. Ee's not text 9
SKYLA:R: .so I'm stuck in here?
DE'T. CARTER: You and I are
stuck re ri t now. I can't leave ei er. I'm
.Bsing r parents donlt know an a
what we tal about to y.
SKYLAR: 1'1 t.a1k to ern.
to hear from you ~ ible) . I ve a 19 year
I ow it wou~d come better from me or om
kid than it wo~ld som~b
f:ficu conversat n to have Tim sure. I
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de'Ci s h t'O dBal wi know. I mea:1
U T roe , you were all alone. You never told
an I dOTI'~ th k I could that Ii that
rls ,a lot tc to rse If,! u KI: a '\i\' , '-'
ever :Vl1ant tell your rents? Yeab . Were
afraid th y w'Ould be Dr 1t l 8
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SKYLAR; . Am .1. going to jail?
DE':!:'. CARTER:
call. 1,i ltd before like I don't j e.
I el like, you kno the rei. saw 1 e st of
tb that were geing on n r rni at the
t fu'1d that!--s rea y no.:t up to me to decide.
Yeu ow,! live not been in yeur shoes. I w s
g en I n::y daug it was a
di erent set ·of circtlIIl.stances, you knDw. Idon't
know I don 1 t know ur f ly. don't OH if
you have the kind of parents that like
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prebably been in fear to tell eIn. But I was out
of t house when I got gnaDt s'Oi t 's a
fferent circumstance.
I 0 like I teld you before,
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2 that on tha news r Ie just .l. L ough there s
3 away ",'ith the You di '1 t "al.. . Y011
4 tr d to crt::ma t·.e h r.r t ed to b r You
.r you tried to ep her close l:.O
SKYLAR: ( IDau Ie. )
7 DET. CARTER: if DB I s
8 to. , . Kll1g o tn.em rl now or not, so we v€ to
9 wait for him to come back here. I don I t know.
10 .5KYLAR: Do you ink y'll take
11 me away today?
12 DET. CARTER: He be
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16 DET. CARTER: I donlt know. I donrt
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.21 1 to them.
22 DET. CARTER: I told r you w€re
23 rob ly were ta king to
24 LT', FAINE~ I was talk 9 to your
parents. No~ - I haven't told them
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SKYLAR; YeaD, I n to te them.
LT. FA E: I d It tell them
Ii t-erally a h 9 that e tal t y. I
just told her that r da d I sa i d 1 i.ke Ito
first stion
t came .as a result th:e corO!1€r I s
investigation. I sa welre spe
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I said s 1 S being hon€st. d f you kno'w r
s ill just a very remorse 1 yaung - y Ire
r:-emorseful. 11m sorry, I -just w,ant to make sure,
a ve emors€ ung a s 1 a
scared -- a scared girl sheTs he ing answer a
t of the st s tha t., you res:wlted as a
re.sul t C) e tioD from the doc ors. fuld I
said the stu f s is -'- u knocyJ J' she IS he ping
us rstand so -- and that's where we are.
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at want te 1 theIIl r you t
LT. FAINE: And I said
sold, u were sill 11£ but ere
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aif rent situation. That's t I ~wa s t €llin
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! ,tAnn 1l S mom~ You DiAl I you have t to
be the ODB r you OW J to do t .. I Ih'it's
going to be t t Ii sure but
JET. CARTER:: HOllJ do you want do
ou want to that here? Li do want r
to talk to them and tell 1
D-o I get to go home?
LT. FlUNE. She' s as you how you
DET. CARTER: I'm~ot s g if
u want to d it her€ th
SKYLAR.: No, I want togo hOITi€ and
tell
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T. CF...RTER: Okay. You donIt want
asking .. I would want to do
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21 have a pLan from ?
22 LT. FAINE: I have -- lot of
23 tt s of Diet si so I need to step out to 'C~e
restroom. That's ate p~anr I'm sorry
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DET. C.ARTER: I Q·W I I know>
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SKYLAR: ~o I get togc home?
I go to pr
DET. CARTER; y won 1 t -- .no ..
Prison i~ Like after -- like 'd have to go to
court first be re you would to prison. You'd
hav_8 -go to court ta 1 k to j e and there1d
have to be ~ audible} to go tc prison. Prison is
like you t serve t e if t t Yo
either go home u wonJt stay here. Either
you'll go with your parents or stay the
non. But it wo 1t - you won't
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SKYL1LR.: Will I ve to go to COll t?
DE':!'. CARTER: I th nk so, probably.
don't w for w t yet, thou t tis the
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yeah, u ma to court. '2'ha:: 1 s your
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at{s d. You care about Annabelle.
s Do u hate me? -,DET'. CP.RTER; 1- D
~'worried ut u. I th k you did Lne ght
thing t ay. at makes me not hate you. Like I
said, u COll have thro~IIiTD her In the t ra sh! you
co d come in here and lied. _You could ve
sa I ve a shit about Annabelle. You
didn I t, yo cam.e in here and you told us ""'bat
ha ned, ri t? You told us what happened
because. you care ut her.
SKYLAR: I want my rno~ and dad.
ow d Y n eyrre go g to feel after
te at ha ? I don't know them so
SKYLp.R: e they'll understand.
DET. ER: '?Understa "C.
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U r J. dorl 't ve a magic want, I dOD'~ bave a
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you caD deal with it w atever,~ tb
means. I th i w tever
tba 1: means. Y.ou have t Through it. You learn
from it and then you move 0 . You have a w,ho e
1i ahe of ',:{ou're 18, okay. You ve a
wbo e li e ahead of you. And then u'll be old
like me at 41 and t s will all be ben d
won't ta h ' "a1: -.long, t I'm just s ng I u
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DET. When you're 41{ I
don't think so.
SKYLAR~ (Inau 1 e . )
DET. CARTER: NOr th don't
a ody here. This is just like t Ii they
s Will they going to put me
in jail for it?
DET. CARTER: I donlt OVI. I don't
even know if U I re goi to jail. When d
tc.rn 18?
SKYLA...'R: lliia reh .
DET .Cc~:RTE'R: r 'l"ia::ch vita t ?
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13 DET. CARTER: You!ll 9 t through it.
14 ng to e this~ kyler r you
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1 .{:not have to de ne the rest of you ..l.. .L.e.
17 SI{Y:"AR: (Ina udi e).
18 DET. C}l~RTER: I can't {inaudible)
com-es hack lOy? I! m not lowed to leave you
21 ere alone, oka I want to make sure u ar,e
safe. I know this feels 1i .IL end of the WDr 1 d
23 right nOW r but you have to just get through itr
24 e it r t thro iti 0 y? You can't change
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SKYL1L17\: I I ow.
DET. CARTEE: That·s how life WOIks.
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stuff. You just work throu it. Ta
ever cons nC6stbere aTe a just move
forward.
SKYLA..R. ; Yeah.
DET. CARTER~ f re 18, 'Okay.
You I ve got your elite ahead of You;ll
get throu.gb s. It will change you. You'll be
a let ely d rent person. But III get
through is tben move oTward. One y
h"-?•at a t __ .L. Welcome to bei an ItT it's
n'ot as mu fun as they make it so~nd. What's
u mom's name?
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Scott.
DE':'. CARTER: Scott, ¥ou1re
e '0 Y iId?
SKYLAR: No., I have a brot r.
DET. CARTER: How d is ?
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DET. CARTER.
bard to hi because you'
SKYLp.R: \Ina
BET. CAFTER:
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SKYLA..."R: Ye
DET . CARTER:
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I think it 'wC;lU
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fingers are cramped up. No,
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DET. CA?-.T2:K: (Inaudible) no matter
what ns. O~e day a~ a t ~ ri " One
minute .at a t if you ve t T it all
ow. t w 1 be 0 y eventually. Not r ght
awaYr but EVEntually.
SKYLll-..R : {Ina ble . .l ,
DET. c}iRTER~ Of course.
SKYLJl.3: (Inaudible. )
DEl'. Ct:l.RTER: Honest y{ Skylar r I do
not know. mean I honestly , w until we
f ish 'Our nte s with pe e a-nd them
talki a o'w all t'ne fae-ts, t nwe cal'lour
boss say what do they want us to do. It J S not
even our decision that we rna
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DET. CZiRTER: t ink it wi
rnu onger. I just I m not sure
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21 decisions t t are made by other pe Ie, not us.
They tell us t to dD. It's pretty muCh how
23 life works. Eve has a bosS-r ri t?
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mom was lIed ..
Rowld s e?
DEl'. CF.RTER: s d lIed
for itea Ie and then it got
better. At the time! rr I u t tho. my
1 ; _J.. was over and ' was not g log to IDa it. So
that be hmv YDU I re el 9 tod ike it's
over, Ii els over. I kn:)w. I IS n t true. You
feel t t way th I w as a mom I've been
t,8 ' ! I':" ..LJ.. you that you shou L that way or
that 1 s not ng to n or help but 'C does
get t er. Tt to. s t I :::::eally '\>,Jant you to
bold on to tne owle th that u d
right thing and you to' everyt I thi k
thatIs far more rtant than an hing else
ecause you ve to you have t:) live with that.
You knov,' f if u wou d have 1 d and cantiou to
ever o'g a rest! would ve to