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Official publication of NCR REA, Inc. www.ncr-rea.com 1st Quarter 2008
Newslet ter Volume 12 , Issue 1
WHAT’S INSIDE
Front Page Story 1
To the Editor 2
Did You Know 3
In Memoriam 4
Welcome to New Members
4
Sugar Camp 6
From our Members 8
Calendar of Events 9
Front page story continued
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F.Y.I. and
Important Contacts
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The Tale End 12
Membership Com-mittee Report
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NCR RETIREE NEWS
HP takes aim at Teradata with Neoview mousetrap By Dan Farber … I chatted with Ben Barnes, vice president and general manager of HP’s Business Intelligence Group. The former general manager of IBM’s Global Business Intelligence Solutions Division was hand-picked by HP CEO Mark Hurd to take on an old friend–Teradata, the leader in enterprise data ware-housing. Prior to taking over HP, Hurd spent 25 years at NCR, including three years as president and COO of the company’s Teradata division (Teradata was spun off as a separate public company in October 2007). Bar-nes spent time in the 1990s as general manager for marketing at Teradata.
HP’s answer to Teradata, which generated $439 million in revenue in Q3 2006, is Neoview. “Roughly two years ago HP made a decision [by] looking around in the market [and found] that there wasn’t a robust, modern-day data warehousing product on the market,” Barnes said.
HP’s solution was to convert its NonStop SQL database (which came via Tan-dem, part of HP’s Compaq acquisition) into a query-based, decision support database for business intelligence and enterprise data warehousing that can digest and analyze all of the data within large corporations. According to Bar-nes, 350 HP developers are working on database and management tools, and have added more than 1.5 million lines of code.
...HP plans to double its sales force in this category, Barnes said, and leverage its financing organization, which recycles existing equipment at customers’ sites into secondary markets. In addition, HP acquired Knightsbridge, a high-end enterprise data warehouse consultancy. HP has staffed up Knightsbridge from 700 to 2800 consultants in the last year.
Barnes contends that HP will gain market share because it has developed a
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Board of Trustees
John Schikner, president
Dennis Neufarth, vice president
Lou Bordonaro, treasurer
Ken Carr, secretary
Peg Butts
Jim Carroll
Vern Henkener
Gordon Meister
Howard Reams
Bill West
NCR REA
Our mission is to keep members informed on is-sues related to NCR Cor-poration and other mat-ters of interest. REA was started in 1996, and helps perpetuate the legacy of NCR Corporation and its people. Membership in NCR REA is a great way to stay connected to NCR and its people.
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TO THE EDITOR ( L E T T E R S F R O M Y O U )
I did like working at NCR in the P&M unit. I worked in buildings 29 and 4 in the Traffic Department. My last three years were in Stock F Building 14. I worked for NCR for 14 years and two months. I was laid off May 16, 1973.
On November 5, 1965, I was work-ing in building 29, on the dock, backing a lift truck off a semi-trailer. I got halfway off and the semi-driver pulled out, dropping the lift truck and me off the trailer and dock. I was off work for two months. At first, I wondered if that accident would prevent me from finding a good job. It did not After the layoff, I worked for 20 years as a firefighter at DESC and WPAFB. ...Getting laid off was a good thing for me, even if I didn’t think so at the time of the layoff. I came out better on retirement.
My name is Merril Sloppy. I was NCR for 38 years. Ten years as a Customer Engineer the field and 27 years with Customer Service Tech-nical Education at the Corporate Technical Education Center (CTEC) in Dayton, Ohio, as an Instruc-tor/course developer.
The CTEC facility was closed in 2000 and training was moved to Sugar Camp. While we were at Sugar Camp, before moving to WHQ, I found a typewriter-written article of the history of Sugar Camp. The paper was in bad shape, so I copied the article into a WORD
document for future use. I do not know what happened to the original article.
When I received the NCR REA mem-bership invitation in the mail today, I went to your web site and saw several items about NCR's history. It reminded me of this article, so I went on a hunt.
I thought I would share it with you to pass on to your members. Please find the article attached. [see page 6 of this newsletter. - Ed.] Regards, Merril Sloppy
NCR will always be in my blood to a point. My dad, Fred L. Peckolt worked for NCR for 37 years, retiring in in 1975. My brother, Mike, worked for NCR Special Parts for 19 years and got laid off in 1974.
...NCR was a great place with movies at noon hour, and, at Christmas time, the lights on the NCR Christmas tree and all down Main St. told us Christ-mas was here. Old River was always great, especially the swimming pool.
Just a GREAT place. That was years ago.
I’m just an old NCR employee talking about the NCR of long ago.
Thank you. Fred J. Peckolt W. Carrollton, OH
DID YOU KNOW... S T O R Y S U B M I T T E D B Y K E N C A R R , R E A S E C R E T A R Y . Y O U C A N C O N T A C T K E N A T K E N C 0 3 2 @ A O L . C O M
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…the NCR Archive is considered a national treasure by many historians. The Archive, which documents the history of NCR from its beginning through the twentieth century, not only tells the local NCR story but also reflects the Company’s contribution on a na-tional and international level.
Mr. Patterson was a true pioneer and innovator in the business world. Among his many concepts were: sales techniques still in use today; classes for salesmen, fac-tory workers, and employee family members; educa-tional advertising; health awareness programs; incen-tive programs; improved work environment; health care; health insurance; recreation programs; neighbor-hood/city improvements; and many others. The NCR Archive documents this history in print with books, newsletters, sales material, engineering drawings, scrapbooks, advertising material, technical material, letters, and business documents. It is also documented through photographs, negatives, and slides of people, places, and events throughout the world.
The centerpiece of the collection is 350 wood and brass cash registers. Many of these registers are one of a kind and represent not only NCR but many competi-tive brands. Also in the Archive are other NCR pro-duced products such as adding machines, calculators, accounting machines, ATMs, scanners, change dis-pensers, printers, and computers, including a Class 304 and a 315. The collection has more than 900 ma-chines. Other artifacts include Mr. Patterson’s factory desk, his personal library, his teaching charts, machin-ery from the first factory, a complete series of the NCR News dating from 1887, a model of the rescue boats built by the company during the 1913 flood in Dayton, and the lab where vacuum tube research led to the de-velopment of an encoder that broke the German Enigma code during WWII.
The collection contains more than 1,500,000 visual images. There are 68,000 Magic Lantern glass slides (1884 to 1922). These slides were among the first to be used for image projection. Many were hand colored. There are 100,000 glass plate negatives (1885 to 1922). These negatives contain the earliest images of the com-pany and document the NCR cash register story around the world. There are 24,000 pictures of businesses where NCR cash registers were installed. There are some 60,000 picture slides including about 750 stereo
slides. There are over 5000 reels of motion picture film, some dating to the earliest days of film making. Regular negatives and photographs make up the bal-ance of the 1,500,000 images.
In 1997, management of the NCR Archive was turned over to the Montgomery County Historical Society (now Dayton History at The Archive Center). In 1999, the collection was moved from NCR Building 28 to its present location at 224 North St. Clair Street in Day-ton, Ohio. At that time, the staff at The Archive Center, along with volunteers, began to define, document, and preserve the NCR collection. Much work has been done, but much more still remains. The total collection contains about 3,000,000 items
The REA Board would like to encourage REA mem-bers in the Dayton area to consider volunteering at The Archive Center to work with the NCR collection. Vol-unteer hours are 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Monday through Thursday. You can volunteer as many hours per day as you like for as many days per week as you choose. The staff at The Archive Center will work with your availability to create a flexible schedule. Especially needed are volunteers to do data entry. The databases are already established and just limited com-puter skills are required. The staff will teach you every-thing you need to know.
Another program needing volunteers is the REA Oral History Project. The purpose of this project is to inter-view and record the working experiences of retired NCR employees. To date, about 75 histories have been documented. The Archive Center provides the re-cording equipment and space for the interviews. The REA and The Archive Center believe the Oral History Project enhances the understanding of the NCR Ar-chive and that it is a project well worth continuing. Volunteers are needed to do that.
If you are interested in helping with data entry, or with the Oral History Project, or are interested in volunteer-ing in some other capacity, please contact Jeff Opt, NCR Archivist, on 937-293-2841, Ext 116, or by e-mail at jopt@DaytonHistory.org. Jeff can answer any questions you have and can provide more detail about being a volunteer at The Archive Center. Give it some thought. It’s a great way to learn about NCR history and, in doing so; you get to help preserve a national treasure.
IN MEMORIAM This column depends on your contribution of information about the deaths of your former co-workers and friends who were NCR employees. Please send a copy of the obituary or information to us. We extend our sincere sympathy to the families of these former NCR employees.
Blaker, Joseph E. (Joe), 81, Sun City West, AZ Burkey, Ken, 65, Duluth, GA Byrne, Robert (Bob), 73, Exetere, RI Campbell, Valdeen P. (Val), 94, Dayton, OH Carpenter, H. Dale, 89, West Alexandria, OH Farmer, Frank J., 83, Dayton, OH, Fuller, Thomas D., 72, N. Venice, FL, Grable, Richard L. (Pete), 68, Dayton, OH Grinnell, Harold B., 84, Fraanklin, OH Hill, Raymond E. (Ray), 85 Dayton, OH Janow, Tye, 82, Dayton, OH
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Kepley, Joseph, Wise, Hershel (Lee), Mesquite, TX
WELCOME BACK TO RETURNING MEMBERS
Kappell, George, 81, Kettering, OH McKane, John F., 87, Englewood, FL, Minnick, Philip (Phil), 57, Dayton, OH Nelson, Carl M., 83, Falmouth, MA Rhodes, Clifford, 90, Key Largo, FL Richardson, Don, 68, Gilbert, SC Slattery, Donald F., 89, Largo, FL Thompson, Gene, 90, Franklin, OH White, Robert B., 82, Dayton, OH Wynn, Gerald H. (Gerry), 83, Oakwood, OH
WELCOME TO NEW MEMBERS
Bittner, Chuck, De Pere, WI Blair, Harry A., Centerville, OH Coleman, Duncan S., (Stu), Dayton, OH Cooper, Cristal L., (Chris), W. Alexandria, OH D’Ambrosio, James (Jimmy D), Roseville, CA Hudson, Elbert G., (Al), Escondido, CA Huebschwerlan, John, San Leandro, CA Jackson, Richard H., (Dick), Xenia, OH Kerr, David, San Diego, CA Lanphear, Kester C., (Les), San Diego, CA McHenry, Michael (Mike), Grand Canyon, AZ
Moran, James J. (Jim), Pittsburgh, PA Morkel, Keith G, Kettering, OH Rarey, Joe, Rogers, AR Rice, Timothy, (Tim), San Diego, CA Rogers, Charles P., (Phil), Amarillo, TX Saffiotti, Joseph A. (Joe), Kendall Park, NJ Schumacher, Allen, (John), N. Plainfield, NJ Wolford, Donald, (Don), Circleville, OH
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The NCR REA Membership Committee recently completed an in-depth analysis of the membership levels required to sustain NCR REA’s long-term vi-ability.
The analysis showed the importance of maintaining REA membership level at a minimum of 1600 mem-bers. At that level, the dues income, at the current annual rate of $15.00 per member, generates the in-come required to cover the costs associated in main-taining the current benefits of NCR REA:
• Four newsletters per year • NCR REA web site • Membership directory • Annual social event - annual business meeting • Homecoming celebration every three years
A review of membership data from the past few years shows the importance of gaining new members to offset the annual member losses. On average, the annual membership losses have been:
• 35 member losses each year as a result of mem-ber deaths
• 90 member losses each year as a result of mem-bership non-renewal
Clearly, 125 new members must be secured annually to offset the member losses and hold the current membership level.
For the past two years, your Board of Trustees has focused its efforts on improving the benefits of membership so as to significantly reduce non-renewals. It should be noted that non-renewals have decreased from just more than 7% of the member-ship to 4% in the past two years. At the same time, we have increased our promotion efforts to attract new members with programs such as:
• Mailing invitations to join NCR REA to poten-
tial new members. (We mail invitations using a database of employees that have left NCR in the past.) A recruiting brochure is avail-able and mailed with our invitations.
• Including information on NCR REA in the NCR/Fidelity package when an employee’s NCR employment ends.
• Encouraging NCR REA regional contacts for retiree events to help in our recruiting efforts.
These promotional efforts have resulted in al-most twice as many new members joining in the past two years.
2004 2005 2006 2007 58 66 125 104
HOW CAN YOU HELP?
We encourage you to promote membership and invite any former NCR associate you meet in your travels to join. Invite them to use the www.ncr-rea.org web site so they can see the advantages of joining. If you want us to mail a brochure and an invitation to join, send us the mailing contact information: Email address: rea@ncr-rea.org
or -- Mail: NCR REA P.O. Box 218 Germantown, Ohio 45327
And we will promptly mail a membership re-cruiting package.
We believe if we can sustain our membership level at 1600 and continue to manage our costs in providing the benefits, we can postpone the need to increase the annual dues for some time. This is something we all want – keeping the membership costs down and increasing the value of the benefits to our members. Will you help us increase our membership?
Your Membership Committee
MEMBERSHIP COMMITTEE REPORT
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HISTORY OF NCR EDUCATION AND FACILITIES AT SUGAR CAMP Few NCR people appreciate, or even suspect, the long colorful history and development that lies be-hind the present-day NCR educational activities. They are filled with many traditions; there are few more colorful than those surrounding the birth of organized sales training.
The NCR plan was founded on the belief that sell-ing is serving and that the only satisfactory selling service is helping the businessman recognize his business problems, and then pointing out methods of overcoming these problems. NCR has adhered to this belief throughout its 100 years of existence.
From the very beginning, NCR sales training was actually business education. A salesman was edu-cated as to the problems of various businesses and how the application of NCR products could help solve these problems.
John H. Patterson is often referred to as the “Father of Salesmanship,” but perhaps it would be more accurate to refer to him as the “Father of the Sci-ence of Salesmanship” because salesmanship was applied for many centuries before he was born.
His unique contribution was that he was the first industrialist to make an intensive study of sales-manship and was able to determine what the princi-ples were. Even more important, he was able to organize and apply these principles in practice. For this and many other reasons, NCR is recognized as having originated many basic firsts in sales training as well as in selling procedures. They include: the first sales manual; the first guaranteed territory; the first quota system; the first use of films, charts, slides and other visual aids; and the first quota club as an incentive to sales leadership.
The origin of the NCR sales manual is an example of Patterson’s habit of establishing his own prece-dent. The top salesman in 1886 was Joseph H. Crane. One day Patterson asked Crane how he sold so many registers. Crane explained that he had de-veloped a sales talk and he felt that this helped him to be so successful. Patterson became interested in this sales talk and asked Crane to try it on him. Pat-terson thought that Crane’s sales talk was so effec-tive that he converted it into the NCR Primer,
which was to become the first sales manual.
There were many at this time who subscribed to the phi-losophy that salesmen were men with a glib tongue who sold on personality. Patterson, however, didn’t go along with this thinking. He held steadfast to his own conviction that a selling organization is the most important asset of a business. He also firmly believed that “salesmen are made, not born.” It was with this philosophy in mind that he opened his first salesman’s training school on April 4, 1894. He appointed Crane, who at that time was sales manager of NCR, to supervise these classes.
The first classes were held in a little house on the lawn of the Patterson estate. To the students who attended classes there, it soon became know as the “Cottage under the elm.” One hot, humid day in 1903 Patterson visited the “Cottage under the elm” and found the students sweltering in the heat and humidity, unable to concentrate on their work. The next morning, while taking his daily horseback ride around his estate, he stopped on a breeze-swept hill overlooking the factory. This he decided would make an excellent location for the NCR sales training school. Not one to hesitate once he made up his mind, he had the school moved into tents on this site within 48 hours. For
many years thereafter it was referred to as the “University under canvas.” Officially, however, the school site was named Sugar Camp because in ear-lier days a maple sugar camp had actually op-erated there. During
the next 30 years many NCR salesmen were to receive their sales training at the “University under canvas.”
However, in 1934, a new and more permanent Sugar Camp was ready for occupancy. Sixty summer cabins complete with beds, desks, lockers, and private baths were built to accommodate four students each. Two large build-ings, each housing three air conditioned classrooms, were also built. An auditorium, a dining hall, two indoor recrea-tion buildings, and a caretaker’s lodge were also part of this complex. For those who enjoyed outdoor sports, there
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HISTORY OF NCR EDUCATION AND FACILITIES AT SUGAR CAMP ( C O N T I N U E D )
was a large flood-lighted swimming pool, horseshoe courts, softball dia-mond, shuffle-board, and badmin-ton facilities. An interesting note is that while the class-rooms had air-conditioning, there were no provisions for heating the classrooms or the cabins.
Many present-day NCR salesmen still have many fond and pleasant memories of the days they spent at Sugar Camp. But business was growing as astonish-ing advances in technology and manufacturing tech-niques hastened the introduction of new products. These new products brought about a need for more sophisticated systems and all of this brought about a need for more training. Summer programs at Sugar Camp could no longer handle the educational load.
On December 15, 1969, Mr. Robert S. Oelman, then chairman of NCR, turned the first spadeful of the some which was to be excavated to make room for the new education center at Sugar Camp. The buildings stand high on the hill at Sugar Camp overlooking not only the NCR complex but much of the city of Day-ton. In a way they are a symbol of NCR’s position in the Dayton community. The design elements of stone, steel, and glass are mas-sive….solid…and permanent. Over 5,000 tons of stone went into the buildings. Can there be any doubt that NCR education is here to stay? The classroom building contains over 60,000 square feet of useable space. It is divided into some 32 class-
rooms to house classes ranging in size from 12 to 120 students. The maximum capacity of this building is just over 800 students. It also contains demonstration rooms and a computer center, and has two classrooms equipped to handle the translation to four foreign languages simul-taneously. The latter feature has proven to be of special benefit to NCR’s many international students and guests.
A second building is the reception center of the complex. This building contains an Independent Learning Center, one additional classroom, two conference rooms, and a very impressive student lobby. The lower floor of this building is a 450 seat auditorium.
A third building contains the 450 seat main dining room for the complex and a separate 50 seat private dining room for corporate executives and guests. The lower level of this building houses the audiovisual center. Among other things, this includes one of the largest in-dustrial sound studios in the country. Here are captured, on video media, NCR training and communications pro-grams for distribution worldwide. All classrooms and conference areas in the education center are equipped with video facilities which are controlled from one mas-ter studio located in this area. This allows the training groups to utilize, more completely, the educational capa-bilities of sophisticated training aides.
The fourth building could well be called the nerve center of NCR’s educational effort. It houses the various de-partments responsible for the control, development, and implementation of Management, Sales, and Customer and Support Education [CASE] for the NCR Corpora-tion.
We do not know the author or the exact date of this document, but suspect it was written in 1984. If you are familiar with this article and can share any additional information with us, we would be delighted to hear from you.
Ed.
Photos courtesy of Dayton History at The Archive Center
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FROM OUR MEMBERS
...I’m also enclosing a picture of ten of our luncheon group taken in late De-cember after our annual Christmas lunch. This is a combination of Retail and Accounting Salesmen that enjoy an old fashioned NCR gab fest from time to time.
From left to right: Steve Barry, Mike Zdanis, Nick Donatello, Jim Clark, Jerry Giacone, Gerry Skidmore, Ed Clancy, me, Bobby Boyle, and Joe Saf-fiotti.
Best regards, Anthony [Pilato]
I thought you might be interested in this picture of the 1947 NCR Repair School Baseball Team. I apologize for not remembering all the men’s names, but, I’ll give you as many as I can recall. 1st row (l-r): Cormican, X,X,X,X,X, Kaufman 2nd row (l-r): Denihide, X, Plemons, Humes, Barcovic, Sammy Corum 3rd row (l-r): X, Richards, me, X, Kelso Peters, Hawkins We had a lot of fun playing games in the Dayton area. We went on to win the Factory Championship. Thank you. Sincerely, Jim Patch [former Denver Region Director, retired after 45 years]
Attending this holiday luncheon at C’est Tout restaurant in Oakwood, Ohio, are (from foreground clockwise): Sue Howorth, Jan Burke, Tony Bleses, Judy Caruso, Mike Robinson, Rhea Williams, Tim Davis, and Mel Marsh
The NCR Clemson Customer Services group held their annual get-together Monday, January 28, at 7:00 PM at the Arizona Steak House in Simpsonville, SC. It was a good time enjoyed by all remi-niscing about days long gone. Thanks to Bob Nisbet for making the arrangements for this yearly get to-gether.
Joyce Carruthers Joan—Bob Nisbet Brad—Faye Webb
Gail—Jim Woods Bob—Karen Lemay Frank—Lillian Knye
Barbara—Mike Fanelli
State City Name Venue Date/Time Contact
AZ Tucson Village Inn 1st Monday each month
Dick Vail
CA San Diego The NCR Re-
tirees Club Remington Club
Rancho Bernardo
2nd Wednesday of month except Mar, May, Jul, Aug at 1:00p.m.
Gordon Belgum
858-672-0458
gbelgum@earthlink.net
CO Colorado Springs / Pueblo
Perkins Restaurant
5190 N. Academy
1st Friday of month at 8:30
a.m.
Fred Miller
719-578-5182
CT Orange Chip’s Restaurant
321 Boston Post Road
2nd Tues each month 8:30 a.m.
Jim Lash
jameslash@snet.net
FL Ft. Myers Bob Evans
9500 Marketplace Road
2nd Thursday each month at
11:30 a.m.
Tom Schoenheider
239-498-0468
tom2peg@comcast.net
GA Atlanta The NCR Lunch Bunch
Golden Corral
Hwy 138
Conyers
2nd Wednesday of even months at 11:30 a.m.
Roy Greenway rlg109177@yahoo.com
Cal McBroom 109487cm@bellsouth.net
John Hughes johughes7@aol.com
IL Chicago NCR Pizza Night Group
Riggio’s Restaurant
7530 W. Oakton
1st Thursday each month
at 6:30 p.m.
Alan J. Helstern
ALHEL@aol.com
IL Chicago Aurora Break-fast Group
No regular sched-ule
Mike Ederati
ederati@juno.com
IL Chicago X-NCR sales-men
Stimac’s Restaurant
4843 Butterfield Rd.
3rd Tuesday each month at
noon
John Roche 773-445-0336
Gene Gallagher 630-986-9006
IN Evansville Cracker Barrel
8215 Eagle Lake Drive
1st Tuesday each month 7 a.m.
Jim Bryan jrbryan@sbcglobal.net
IN Indianapolis MCL Cafeteria
3630 S. East St.
2nd Tuesday each month at 6:00 p.m.
Harry Kuhn 317-862-4408
cnhkuhn@hotmail.com
KS Wichita Wichita TFY Club
Quarterly
meetings
Linda Ferguson
3718 N. Rock Rd.
Wichita, KS 67226
KY Lexington / London
McDonald’s at Palomar Each Wednesday at 9:00 a.m.
Bill Malicote 859-299-5125
MD Baltimore VFW 6506
8777 Philadelphia Rd.
Rosedale
Wed. every month except Dec. at 5 p.m.
Nelson Bengel 410-557-7302
nelsben@aol.com
MA Marion Sippacan Café
Marion
Breakfast every Thursday
Pete Suller 508-295-1016
psuller@comcast.net
MA Metheun McDonald’s
Pelham St.
Breakfast every Tuesday at 8
Richard Bates 603-394-7760
R.richardbates@comcast.net
CA LE N D A R O F ON GO I N G EV E N T S
State City Name Venue Date/Time Contact
MI McComb Township
McDonald’s
45700 N. Gratiot
Every Tuesday morning
Lee Brown 810-791-2061
20812 Lantz Street
MI Saginaw Sullivan’s Restaurant
5235 Gratiot Ave.
2nd Tuesday each month at 8:30
a.m.
R. J. (Mickey) McDonald
989-781-1556
NE Omaha HY-VEE Grocery
108th and Fort St.
1st Thursday each month at 7:30
a.m.
Henry Lokke 3815 N. 100th St.
Omaha, NE 68134 (402)571-6467
NJ Central Ye Cottage Inn
149 W. Front St.
Keyport
3rd Thursday each month except
June, July, August
Bernie Ondrey
bondrey102@comcast.net
NJ Saddle Brook Northeastern Re-tail & Accounting Machine Sales-
Marriott Hotel
Saddle Brook
Every 2-3months Anthony J. Pilato
516-561-1144
NM Albuquerque Furrs Cafeteria
Wyoming Mall
Lunch each Wednesday at
12:30 p.m.
Marc LaChey 505-275-2331
Marc.lachey@att.net
NC Charlotte Tryon Restaurant
215 E. Exmore St.
3rd Tuesday each month at 7:30
a.m.
Walt Miller 704-844-6488 or
mymabe@aol.com or
OH Dayton Former R&D
employees
NCR Country Club
Reservations suggested
4th Wednesday each month
Carl Wick 937-433-1352
cfwick@aol.com
OH Dayton E&M Dayton Marion’s Pizza
Patterson and Shroyer Rd.
2nd Saturday of March and Octo-
ber
Ray Roppel 513-777-4399
rkroppel@fuse.net
PA Harrisburg Geo’s Country Oven
300 Mountain Road
Last Tuesday each month at 9:00
a.m.
Dick Eberly
rjegolf@comcast.net
RI Warwick Bickford Restaurant
Jefferson Blvd.
Every Tuesday at 8:30 a.m.
Don Culton 401-942-5594
Dfc-jr@cox.net
SC Columbia ROMEO (Retired Old Men Eating
Out)
IHOP
St. Andrews and I-26
2nd Wednesday each month at
9:00 a.m.
Jerry Dryden 904-378-7895
jed2004@bellsouth.net
SC Greenville Flat Rock Grille Wood-ruff Road
Saturday noon every 2-3 months
Ted Webb 864-234-7869
w4ne@juno.com
WA Tacoma Ma’s Place
Near South Hill Mall
Puyallup Bowling
Every Tuesday at 9:00 a.m.
Every Thursday at 9:00 a.m.
Vern Schrotenboer 253-848-6872
vern35@earthlink.net
Vern Schrotenboer 253-848-6872
WI Milwaukee Mayfair Mall
Food Court
1st Tuesday each month at 9:00
a.m.
Don Eggert 414-453-8424
degg12@sbcglobal.net
Canada Vancouver, BC XNCRs Group Lunch 1st Tues-day each month
Dick Phillips 604-526-8721
dick_phillips@telus.net
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MOVING? Don’t forget to tell us your new address so we can ensure you continue to receive your newsletter. Email to newsletter@ncr-rea.org or write to: NCR REA, P. O. Box 218, Germantown, OH 45327.
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If you would like for us to stop sending you a hardcopy of NCR Retiree News since you can now view and/or print it from the web, please let us know.
Did you know this is another peak season in the world of boating and fishing? This is when there are lots of boat shows around with dealers trying to get you to buy a new one and others are wanting sign you up for safe boating classes. Maybe you’re not in the market for a boat, but if you have family, especially chil-dren and grandchildren, who will be boating this summer, you should talk them into taking a safe boating class with you. Classes are offered by the US Power Squadron,
http://www.usps.org/e_stuff/public_ed.htm And the US Coast Guard Auxiliary.
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better mousetrap than competitors. “If all we do is what Teradata has done over the last 20 years, it’s not enough. ...,” Barnes continued. “Since we have better a mousetrap, there is no need to buy Tera-data.”
Randy Lea, vice president of product and service marketing at Teradata, isn’t convinced that HP has a new or even better mousetrap. “We haven’t seen anything that shows they have a better architecture or functionality than we do,” Lea said. “We spend every waking moment at Teradata focused on data warehousing, period. ...We would be glad to bench-mark against Neoview, but they have declined to do so.”
...“We have a strong potential for leadership in this market, even if we are late,” Barnes concluded.
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“Think of us [as]a startup up with a benevolent funder.” Luke Lonergan, CTO and co-founder of Green-plum, another player in enterprise data warehous-ing, acknowledged HP’s Neoview has some strengths. “It has some mature code and good peo-ple, and a lot of investment and mindshare from HP, but it’s basically a proprietary system, resur-recting the Tandem MX project NonStop SQL and using proprietary interconnects,” Lonergan said. ...I wouldn’t be surprised if HP bought Teradata, and is using Neoview as a way to drive Tera-data’s price down. Neoview is coming out a bit hot in the sense it is not totally mature.”
This excerpt was from the article on http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7881
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