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I have N~viewed the drawings sent over and slr.etch • proposaJ to alleviate the issues raised by the BCO, als() on the ~d pace of the- attadunerat tflave hlchli&hted the wea" Hl1\ 50 to speak in terms of &e·and I think the BCO would have also .noticed this.
The proposal require$ the lnstaUatlon of RHZSg 90/60 product In two layers one at the head a( the window afi&ninB with the compartment floor an~. tbe ot'her at the tDp ef the existiRI up stand, therefore two layers -of 60 ml~ PfObtdlon that ~rait·~ Pf'O'!:de If tested ove.r UD minutes ·protectiGn1.at the window 1ocatiol!lS.
Please nate that without spedfk·detafts of the ~rail construc;tlon of internallininp and or sl&tit of the Flte stratqy for the project J can on1y efflwr the pro~ abave, •nd as this is a refut'blsftinent I would lmaitne tbatw Internal t~nli~J.S wiJI re.r_nain trisitu ~ madetood to OJ)enfnp only, which does not ald the .flnt matecv.
A-~ ~at,wQII toc:a:Honsl ~nn.ot see any jc.lstif)cation for any1hq other than a GYity ~at 30{15 ratin,_ so 5uitJec;t tD BCO. llfJproval you .may be able to down aracfe In ~ Iota~
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FI"'m: Ben &ally (matlta:Benballe.,.harleycw.oo.uk] sent: 30 Mrarth 2015 15-.16 To: Rlcky Kay Cc: Chrts c. Mort Subject Re: Grenfel Tower Fi,. Stopplna
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"" HI Ben,
To ena"ble us to assess. please see attached rnarlt up of sec;dan drawlnp th~ are required by my Technlcal Officer.
,, Please forward at your earliest 'COnVenience. Many thanks
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From: Simon L.llwrence lmaUto:slawrenCdi)rydoQ,co.ykl Sent JO Mardl Z01514:51 Tu: ~se.~ Rlckyl(ay: benbiililev@barleycw.co.uk Cc: S..e Sheppard . Su~ RE: Grenfell TO'Wer Fire St.Dppll"'l
. Thanks Chrls. rm happy for us as a .project team to work throuch this and q~on the ·BC ' Officer If there ls a valid point. But the emotions behl~ emaJI can easily be mkread. If you upm him now o~ a £i.Ok Issue the I" lt could affect me later when trying to ret sign off for the whole buildins a~ that'tSa £1.5m Jssue for me.
Regards
S:lmon Lawrence;, AClOB, MlnatLM (:ontrir"ts M•rwt~•r
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! From: Simon Lawrent:e [mailtg:slawnmce@rvdon.co.ldkl ~ sent: JO Man:h 201s 14=41
I To: Rlcty tc.y; benbailcx@harlm:w.co.yk; R.ily BaDey Cc: .KevinLamb@tMrleycw. .CQ.uk: N~ll@nydloe.co.uls; markebadeycw.w.uk; Slmon D1Connor; SUe Slleppatd; Ch,ls (. Mort 'Ma,rtln Sexton'
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1 appre~ that there is a discus $ion and dfffe.rent po;nts of view r'l;lrdlnJ ~ .::ladl:llng. fjrestopplng/cavitv .barrier tat1 wi!ICh we can make. However we need to do this ccmsttuctlvefy and fd rather not question the BC Qfflcer fJohn Hoban) In front ofeveryoae on emalf. ~n you
. . ple~Sf $0rt this out Jn ,..rvate a-nd r~pond tQ rnySe!f and Nelllf you have; a vaiJd argument'?
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\1 From: Rlcky Kay (mailtg;(!dQI.kayfil!jjdcldse.Wr.nJ Sent: 30 Nardl 2015 14:32. To: ·~bn,Hob!lnftrb!sc:gav.ut-; bel]ballgt@hilf'k¥w.cD.uk Cc: Ke-rlnlarOO@ItJadeVCw&Q.uk; Nelr@studtQe.co.u}v m;Jit®barteycw.m.uk; Simon O'~nor; Sbnon La~; Teny.Asbtntt@Exova.com; $le She,.....S; Chrll c. Mort,; 'Martin !iDton' SubjeCt: RE: Gnnfell Tower fire Stapping
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~ Please can N~ forward over a drawtnc of ~he bufkl-up of the ~adclincso that my f Technical Officer can evaluate and forward an oflldat response with ii'SII)ERIS£ produet spedtlc:atlon.
Many U.anks.
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I Dear All,
. ; The e.-Uding ~egulations 201 D (as amended) • Gremell Towet", Grenfell Ra.d., Refurbishment
~ Please find detailed below • copy of an emau ••nt to .vart~ P,e~n& on :the ~tll of !i ~h 2Q1.$. ~c;~mlng th.e. topic telatlng fire •topplnt of~- compartmarit floors to
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st,ndard of tbe exbltlng compartment flow ~ 2.0 minUtes ]. Therefore the methods d~ribed ln -clause 9.13 would not be appropriate In thle particula, case
. ln t"- meantime shouJd you wish to dlscusa any oitler aspecta·of the n please do not hesltete to can me, my direct line· contact number Is
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Best regards .•
John Hoban . John Hobaa
Control Surveyor
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From: HOba~, John: PC·Pian · $lint: 2.0 Mlln;:h ·:Z015 13:22 To: 'Nett crawrorcr; Han.on, Paul: PC-Plan Cc: sJawrence@rydon.cD.uk: Kevin Lamb (KeviOU)mb@.bodeycyt,oo.tJk); Slmon O'Connor (SQColl!)Q[@fydon.tQ.I!Is}; luon North (ilortbooo:Jon.m,uk) Subject: RE: Gtenfell
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The BuDding Regulations 2010 (ils amended) Grenfell Tower, Grenfell Road. Refurbishment.
· Thiink you for ret:umJng In¥ call this morning.
Further to :my ·C:onv•rsation with -you today. 1 would confirm that the tire time for the new.ElementB of Strvcture( new co1umn&, ,bu.m' ~on& of comp(lrt:ment fl~f!)i' etc.) in Grenfttft TOW.r ls 120 minuteS, ·a• .Peclfled in eection 1a ofTab1e A2. · Apf,endix A of ApPioved DocUm.tnt B.
1 V~~Quld •J•o draw yotn au.nilon. to dlagram.33 of Approved Document Band highlight the ctetan between compat1mtnt ftoorJ ~nd ~teni~l.~; .. ~dtpg. fn ~e m~irtt~ ·~~ y~ ~hto dls.Gu8• ariY Otft'r asPeCt. of the pr~ please do not heattate to-eaU me~ my dlrect ·Hne contact number Is-
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I ! F,.;~~N.i, erawfoni [matlto:~dl~d;;.~.;] --1 sent: 10 Mard1 2015 U:49 ~ To: Hoban, John: PC~Pian ~ SubjOc!: RE: Cirenfall Tower Fire 8arrlerw ~ .
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HI John
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EmaU: RE: Gtwnell Tower Fire -Stopping hge:KoftO
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I. Date: lhursday, ·Z6 Mwdl 2015 13:4-Z
To: Ben Bailey <beribaflty@har1~vcw.r:o.uk> ~= K~n Lamb <~vjntanib@harleycw.co.uk>, Martc Stapley >,Sue Sheppard <SUe.5hfpoar!l@slderise.com>
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~ HI Ben.
ApokJ&jes for the delrf-
Please find betow extrad: from the Approved Document B of. thtt BuUdlng Aqulatlons.
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I exceeds mfntlllUrn requirements.
120 mi11Ute fire ratJnc IJ cenerally the ·lndustry mndarcl for ~rtat,n wnlt to concrete dab edge ! firestopplng where the firestop ls Joc:Med on the inside of • buldina al'!d is considered to be io
~ eontinllation of the floor slab.
I . ll f'lei!ISe &et in touch If you need -anythin& elaa from us to enable you to pracreu wittt your
order, rrtany thanks
National F~des Manager
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