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Secured TransactionsAssignment 8

Formalities for Attachment

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The Big Picture

Chapter 1. Creditors’ Remedies Under State LawChapter 2. Creditors’ Remedies in Bankruptcy Chapter 3. Creation of Security Interests

Assignment 8: Formalities for AttachmentAssignment 9: What Collateral and Obligations are Covered?

Assignment 10: Proceeds (State Law)Assignment 11: Proceeds (Bankruptcy)Assignment 12: Skip

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The Big Picture

Chapter 1. Creditors’ Remedies Under State LawChapter 2. Creditors’ Remedies in Bankruptcy Chapter 3. Creation of Security Interests

Assignment 8: Formalities for AttachmentAssignment 9: What Collateral and Obligations are Covered?

Assignment 10: Proceeds (State Law)Assignment 11: Proceeds (Bankruptcy)Assignment 12: Skip

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The Big Picture

Chapter 1. Creditors’ Remedies Under State LawChapter 2. Creditors’ Remedies in Bankruptcy Chapter 3. Creation of Security Interests

Assignment 8: Formalities for AttachmentAssignment 9: What Collateral and Obligations are Covered?

Assignment 10: Proceeds (State Law)Assignment 11: Proceeds (Bankruptcy)

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UCC Article 1

1. Definitions and provisions applicable in all other Articles2. “Current” Article 1, “Revised” Article 13. A majority of states have adopted Revised Article 1.4. Revised Article 1 is the “law of the course.”

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Basic Concepts

Attachment: creation of a security interest

§9-203(a) A security interest attaches to collateral when it becomes enforceable . . .

(b) [A] security interest is enforceable . . . only if: (1) value has been given (§1-201(44)) (2) the debtor has rights in the collateral (§2-501(1)(a));

and (3)(A) the debtor has authenticated a security agreement

that provides a description of the collateral . . .

Asset“Collateral”

Debt“Obligation”

LienSecurity interest

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Basic Concepts

Attachment: creation of a security interest

§9-203(a) A security interest attaches to collateral when it becomes enforceable . . .

(b) [A] security interest is enforceable . . . only if: (1) value has been given (§1-201(44)) (2) the debtor has rights in the collateral (§2-501(1)(a));

and (3)(A) the debtor has authenticated a security agreement

that provides a description of the collateral . . .

Asset“Collateral”

Debt“Obligation”

LienSecurity interest

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Basic Concepts

Attachment: creation of a security interest

§9-203(a) A security interest attaches to collateral when it becomes enforceable . . .

(b) [A] security interest is enforceable . . . only if: (1) value has been given (§1-204) (2) the debtor has rights in the collateral (§2-501(1)(a));

and (3)(A) the debtor has authenticated a security agreement

that provides a description of the collateral . . .

Asset“Collateral”

Debt“Obligation”

LienSecurity interest

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Basic Concepts

Attachment: creation of a security interest

§9-203(a) A security interest attaches to collateral when it becomes enforceable . . .

(b) [A] security interest is enforceable . . . only if: (1) value has been given (§1-204) (2) the debtor has rights in the collateral (§2-501(1)(a));

and (3)(A) the debtor has authenticated a security agreement

that provides a description of the collateral . . .

Asset“Collateral”

Debt“Obligation”

LienSecurity interest

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Basic Concepts

Value has been given [by the secured party]

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Basic Concepts

Value has been given [by the secured party]

Securedparty Debtor

Security interest

?

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Basic Concepts

Value has been given [by the secured party]

Securedparty Debtor

Loan or loan commitment

Security interest

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Basic Concepts

Value has been given [by the secured party]

Securedparty Debtor

A loan made unsecured (“past consideration”) is value with respect to a later-granted security interest

Security interest

Previouslyunsecured loan

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Basic Concepts

Value has been given [by the secured party]

§1-204. [A] person gives “value” for rights if the person acquires them . . . (2) as security for . . . a pre-existing claim . . . or (4) in return for any consideration sufficient to support a simple contract.

Securedparty Debtor

Security interest

A loan made unsecured (“past consideration”) is value with respect to a later-granted security interest

Previouslyunsecured loan

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Basic Concepts

Debtor has rights in the collateral [ownership, lease, etc.]

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Basic Concepts

Debtor has rights in the collateral [ownership, lease, etc.]

Securedparty

Trademarkowner

Debtor-licensee

Security interestIn “trademark”License

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Basic Concepts

Debtor has rights in the collateral [ownership, lease, etc.]

Securedparty

Seller Debtor

Bad check

SecurityinterestTitle to goods

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Basic Concepts

Debtor has rights in the collateral [ownership, lease, etc.]

Securedparty

Seller Debtor

No consideration yet paid

Securityinterest

Rights in goods not yet delivered

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Basic Concepts

Debtor has rights in the collateral [ownership, lease, etc.]

§2-501(1)(a) The buyer obtains a special property . . . interest in goods by identification of existing goods as goods to which the contract refers . . . . In the absence of explicit agreement identification occurs when the contract is made if it is for the sale of goods already existing and identified.

Securedparty

Seller DebtorNo consideration paid

Securityinterest“Identification”

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Basic ConceptsDebtor has authenticated a security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(7). Authenticate means:(A) to sign; or(B) to execute or otherwise adopt a symbol, or encrypt or

similarly process a record in whole or in part, with the present intent of the authenticating person to identify the person and adopt or accept a record.

Record . . . means information that is inscribed on a tangible medium or which is stored in an electronic or other medium and is retrievable in perceivable form. §9-102(a)(69)

Is something in my memory a record?

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Basic ConceptsDebtor has authenticated a security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(7). Authenticate means:(A) to sign; or(B) to execute or otherwise adopt a symbol, or encrypt or

similarly process a record in whole or in part, with the present intent of the authenticating person to identify the person and adopt or accept a record.

Record . . . means information that is inscribed on a tangible medium or which is stored in an electronic or other medium and is retrievable in perceivable form. §9-102(a)(69)

Is something in my memory a record?

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Basic ConceptsDebtor has authenticated a security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(7). Authenticate means:(A) to sign; or(B) to execute or otherwise adopt a symbol, or encrypt or

similarly process a record in whole or in part, with the present intent of the authenticating person to identify the person and adopt or accept a record.

Record . . . means information that is inscribed on a tangible medium or which is stored in an electronic or other medium and is retrievable in perceivable form. §9-102(a)(69)

Is something in my memory a record?

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Basic ConceptsDebtor has authenticated a security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(7). Authenticate means:(A) to sign; or(B) to execute or otherwise adopt a symbol, or encrypt or

similarly process a record in whole or in part, with the present intent of the authenticating person to identify the person and adopt or accept a record.

Record . . . means information that is inscribed on a tangible medium or which is stored in an electronic or other medium and is retrievable in perceivable form. §9-102(a)(69)

Is something in my memory a record?

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Basic ConceptsDebtor has authenticated a security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(7). Authenticate means:(A) to sign; or(B) to execute or otherwise adopt a symbol, or encrypt or

similarly process a record in whole or in part, with the present intent of the authenticating person to identify the person and adopt or accept a record.

Example: I sent you an email stating “I grant you a security interest in my car. B.M.Mc.” tronic or other medium and is retrievable in perceivable form. §9-102(a)(69)

Is something in my memory a record?

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Basic ConceptsDebtor has authenticated a security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(7). Authenticate means:(A) to sign; or(B) to execute or otherwise adopt a symbol, or encrypt or

similarly process a record in whole or in part, with the present intent of the authenticating person to identify the person and adopt or accept a record.

Record . . . means information that is inscribed on a tangible medium or which is stored in an electronic or other medium and is retrievable in perceivable form. §9-102(a)(69)

Is something in my memory a record?

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Basic ConceptsDebtor has authenticated a security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(7). Authenticate means:(A) to sign; or(B) to execute or otherwise adopt a symbol, or encrypt or

similarly process a record in whole or in part, with the present intent of the authenticating person to identify the person and adopt or accept a record.

Record . . . means information that is inscribed on a tangible medium or which is stored in an electronic or other medium and is retrievable in perceivable form. §9-102(a)(69)

Is an oral security agreement a record?

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Basic ConceptsDebtor has authenticated a security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(7). Authenticate means:(A) to sign; or(B) to execute or otherwise adopt a symbol, or encrypt or

similarly process a record in whole or in part, with the present intent of the authenticating person to identify the person and adopt or accept a record.

Record . . . means information that is inscribed on a tangible medium or which is stored in an electronic or other medium and is retrievable in perceivable form. §9-102(a)(69)

Is an oral security agreement a record? Is my recollection of it a record?

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Basic Concepts

Security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(73). Security agreement means an agreement that creates or provides

for a security interest.

That provides a description of the collateral§9-108(a) [A] description of personal or real property is

sufficient, whether or not it is specific, if it reasonably identifies what is described.

(b) [A] description of collateral reasonably identifies the collateral if . . . the identity of the collateral is “objectively determinable.

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Basic Concepts

Security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(73). Security agreement means an agreement

that creates or provides for a security interest.That provides a description of the collateral§9-108(a) [A] description of personal or real property is

sufficient, whether or not it is specific, if it reasonably identifies what is described.

(b) [A] description of collateral reasonably identifies the collateral if . . . the identity of the collateral is “objectively determinable.

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Basic Concepts

Security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(73). Security agreement means an agreement

that creates or provides for a security interest.. . . that provides a description of the collateral§9-108(a) [A] description of personal or real property is

sufficient, whether or not it is specific, if it reasonably identifies what is described.

(b) [A] description of collateral reasonably identifies the collateral if . . . the identity of the collateral is “objectively determinable.

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Basic Concepts

Security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(73). Security agreement means an agreement

that creates or provides for a security interest.. . . that provides a description of the collateral§9-108(a) [A] description of personal or real property is

sufficient, whether or not it is specific, if it reasonably identifies what is described.

(b) [A] description of collateral reasonably identifies the collateral if . . . the identity of the collateral is “objectively determinable.

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Basic Concepts

Security agreement . . . §9-102(a)(73). Security agreement means an agreement

that creates or provides for a security interest.. . . that provides a description of the collateral§9-108(a) [A] description of personal or real property is

sufficient, whether or not it is specific, if it reasonably identifies what is described.

(b) [A] description of collateral reasonably identifies the collateral if . . . the identity of the collateral is “objectively determinable.”

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Problem 8.1, page 145Promissory Note“secured by col-lateral described in a security agreement this date.” Signed by debtor

Are any of these an authenticated security agreement?Do they meet the requirements of the composite document rule? “Objectively indicate parties may have intended a SA?” “Parties actually intended a SA” page 144Can we answer from the documents alone?

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Problem 8.1, page 145Promissory Note“secured by col-lateral described in a security agreement this date.” Signed by debtor

Financing State-ment “all inventory and equipment of the debtor’s business” Not signed, but debtor signed authorization to file it

Are any of these an authenticated security agreement?Do they meet the requirements of the composite document rule? “Objectively indicate parties may have intended a SA?” “Parties actually intended a SA” page 144Can we answer from the documents alone?

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Problem 8.1, page 145Promissory Note“secured by col-lateral described in a security agreement this date.” Signed by debtor

Financing State-ment “all inventory and equipment of the debtor’s business” Not signed, but debtor signed authorization to file it

Cover Letter. “Enclosed are documents that give you a security interest in inventory and equipment,” signed by debtor’s lawyer

Are any of these an authenticated security agreement?Do they meet the requirements of the composite document rule? “Objectively indicate parties may have intended a SA?” “Parties actually intended a SA” page 144Can we answer from the documents alone?

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Problem 8.1, page 145Promissory Note“secured by col-lateral described in a security agreement this date.” Signed by debtor

Financing State-ment “all inventory and equipment of the debtor’s business” Not signed, but debtor signed authorization to file it

Cover Letter. “Enclosed are documents that give you a security interest in inventory and equipment,” signed by debtor’s lawyer

Are any of these an authenticated security agreement?Do they meet the requirements of the composite document rule? “Objectively indicate parties may have intended a SA?” “Parties actually intended a SA” page 144Can we answer from the documents alone?

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Problem 8.1, page 145Promissory Note“secured by col-lateral described in a security agreement this date.” Signed by debtor

Financing State-ment “all inventory and equipment of the debtor’s business” Not signed, but debtor signed authorization to file it

Cover Letter. “Enclosed are documents that give you a security interest in inventory and equipment,” signed by debtor’s lawyer

Are any of these an authenticated security agreement?Do they meet the requirements of the composite document rule? “Objectively indicate parties may have intended a SA” “Parties actually intended a SA” page 141Can we answer from the documents alone?

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Problem 8.1, page 145Promissory Note“secured by col-lateral described in a security agreement this date.” Signed by debtor

Financing State-ment “all inventory and equipment of the debtor’s business” Not signed, but debtor signed authorization to file it

Cover Letter. “Enclosed are documents that give you a security interest in inventory and equipment,” signed by debtor’s lawyer

Are any of these an authenticated security agreement?Do they meet the requirements of the composite document rule? “Objectively indicate parties may have intended a SA” “Parties actually intended a SA” page 141Can we answer from the documents alone?

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Problem 8.1, page 145Promissory Note“secured by col-lateral described in a security agreement this date.” Signed by debtor

Financing State-ment “all inventory and equipment of the debtor’s business” Not signed, but debtor signed authorization to file it

Cover Letter. “Enclosed are documents that give you a security interest in inventory and equipment,” signed by debtor’s lawyer

Are any of these an authenticated security agreement?Do they meet the requirements of the composite document rule? “Objectively indicate parties may have intended a SA” “Parties actually intended a SA” page 141Can we answer from the documents alone? Not second question

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Problem 8.2, page 146

Fisherman’s Pier hypothetical. At what point in time did First National’s security interest attach?§9-203(a) A security interest attaches to collateral when it becomes enforceable . . . (b) [A] security interest is enforceable . . . only if: (1) value has been given (§1-201(44)) (2) the debtor has rights in the collateral (§2-501(1)(a));

and (3)(A) the debtor has authenticated a security agreement

that provides a description of the collateral . . .

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Problem 8.2, page 146

Fisherman’s Pier hypothetical. At what point in time did First National’s security interest attach?§9-203(a) A security interest attaches to collateral when it becomes enforceable . . . (b) [A] security interest is enforceable . . . only if: (1) value has been given (§1-201(44)) (2) the debtor has rights in the collateral (§2-501(1)(a));

and (3)(A) the debtor has authenticated a security agreement

that provides a description of the collateral . . .

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Problem 8.2, page 146

Fisherman’s Pier hypothetical. At what point in time did First National’s security interest attach?§9-203(a) A security interest attaches to collateral when it becomes enforceable . . . (b) [A] security interest is enforceable . . . only if: (1) value has been given (§1-204) (2) the debtor has rights in the collateral (§2-501(1)(a));

and (3)(A) the debtor has authenticated a security agreement

that provides a description of the collateral . . .

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Problem 8.2, page 146

Fisherman’s Pier hypothetical. At what point in time did First National’s security interest attach?

§9-203(a) A security interest attaches to collateral when it becomes enforceable . . . (b) [A] security interest is enforceable . . . only if: (1) value has been given (§1-204) (2) the debtor has rights in the collateral (§2-501(1)(a));

and (3)(A) the debtor has authenticated a security agreement

that provides a description of the collateral . . .First National’s security interest became enforceable when the last of these three requirements was satisfied.

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Problem 8.3, page 146The parties signed a security agreement that described the

collateral as “The restaurant equipment described on the attached list.” No list is attached.

a. Does the bank have an enforceable security interest?

b. Two weeks later, the debtor’s lawyer mails the list to the secured party’s lawyer, and the secured party’s lawyer staples it to the security agreement. Is the agreement enforceable?

c. What if those events happened two years later?d. What if those events happened after the debtor filed

bankruptcy, 362(a)(4) and (5)

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Problem 8.3, page 146The parties signed a security agreement that described the

collateral as “The restaurant equipment described on the attached list.” No list is attached.

a. Does the bank have an enforceable security interest?

b. Two weeks later, the debtor’s lawyer mails the list to the secured party’s lawyer, and the secured party’s lawyer staples it to the security agreement. Is the agreement enforceable?

c. What if those events happened two years later?d. What if those events happened after the debtor filed

bankruptcy, 362(a)(4) and (5)

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Problem 8.3, page 146The parties signed a security agreement that described the

collateral as “The restaurant equipment described on the attached list.” No list is attached.

a. Does the bank have an enforceable security interest? No unless composite document available.

b. Two weeks later, the debtor’s lawyer mails the list to the secured party’s lawyer, and the secured party’s lawyer staples it to the security agreement. Is the agreement enforceable?

c. What if those events happened two years later?d. What if those events happened after the debtor filed

bankruptcy, 362(a)(4) and (5)

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Problem 8.3, page 146The parties signed a security agreement that described the

collateral as “The restaurant equipment described on the attached list.” No list is attached.

a. Does the bank have an enforceable security interest?

b. Two weeks later, the debtor’s lawyer mails the list to the secured party’s lawyer, and the secured party’s lawyer staples it to the security agreement. Is the agreement enforceable? Split of authority.

c. What if those events happened two years later?d. What if those events happened after the debtor filed

bankruptcy, 362(a)(4) and (5)

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Problem 8.3, page 146The parties signed a security agreement that described the

collateral as “The restaurant equipment described on the attached list.” No list is attached.

a. Does the bank have an enforceable security interest?

b. Two weeks later, the debtor’s lawyer mails the list to the secured party’s lawyer, and the secured party’s lawyer staples it to the security agreement. Is the agreement enforceable? Split of authority.

9-203(b)(3)(A) “. . . the debtor has authenticated a security agreement that provides a description of the collateral . . . ”

c. What if those events happened after the debtor filed ban

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Problem 8.3, page 146The parties signed a security agreement that described the

collateral as “The restaurant equipment described on the attached list.” No list is attached.

a. Does the bank have an enforceable security interest?

b. Two weeks later, the debtor’s lawyer mails the list to the secured party’s lawyer, and the secured party’s lawyer staples it to the security agreement. Is the agreement enforceable? Split of authority.

c. What if those events happened two years after closing?d. What if those events happened after the debtor filed

bankruptcy, 362(a)(4) and (5)

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Problem 8.3, page 146The parties signed a security agreement that described the

collateral as “The restaurant equipment described on the attached list.” No list is attached.

a. Does the bank have an enforceable security interest?

b. Two weeks later, the debtor’s lawyer mails the list to the secured party’s lawyer, and the secured party’s lawyer staples it to the security agreement. Is the agreement enforceable? Split of authority.

c. What if those events happened two years after closing?d. What if those events happened after the debtor filed

bankruptcy, 362(a)(4) and (5)

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? What are the options?Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? What are the options?Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? What are the options?Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? What are the options?Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? What are the options?Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? What are the options?Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? What are the options?Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? What are the options?Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? What are the options?Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? Client: “You fill in the blank.” What are the options? Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? Client: “You fill in the blank.” “No.”What are the options? Whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security

agreementIf we send it as is, what will happen? Staple description?Whose decision is this? Client: “You fill in the blank.” “No.”Client: I will fill in the blank. Will you maintain confidentiality?

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Rule 1.6: Confidentiality of Information(a) A lawyer shall not reveal information relating to the representation . . . unless the client gives informed consent, the disclosure is impliedly authorized in order to carry out the representation or the disclosure is permitted by paragraph (b).

(b) A lawyer may reveal [such] information . . . to the extent the lawyer reasonably believes necessary:(1) to prevent reasonably certain death or substantial bodily harm;(2) to prevent the client from committing a crime or fraud that is reasonably certain to result in substantial injury to the financial interests . . . of another and in furtherance of which the client has used or is using the lawyer's services;(3) to prevent, mitigate or rectify [such an injury] . . . (6) to comply with other law or a court order.

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Rule 3.3 Candor Toward the Tribunal(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: (1) make a false statement of fact or law to a tribunal. . . (3) If a . . . lawyer's client . . . has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal . . . . (b) A lawyer who represents a client in an adjudicative

proceeding and who knows that a person intends to engage, is engaging or has engaged in criminal or fraudulent conduct related to the proceeding shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal.

(c) Paragraphs (a) and (b) . . . apply even if compliance requires disclosure of information otherwise protected by Rule 1.6.

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security agreementRight now, what are the options?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill

in the description3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security agreementRight now, what are the options? Morally and ethically, whose bulldozer is this?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.

2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill in the description

3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security agreementRight now, what are the options? Morally and ethically, whose bulldozer is this?Who will be hurt by filling in the blank?

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Problem 8.4, page 146[Read from facts]1. The debtor signed a security agreement that contained no

description of collateral.2. The debtor authorized us (the secured party’s lawyer) to fill

in the description3. We did not fill it in4. The debtor filed bankruptcy5. The trustee has requested a copy of the security agreementRight now, what are the options? Morally and ethically, whose bulldozer is this?Who will be hurt by filling in the blank?Vote

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Problem 8.5, page 1481. You withdrew from representation of Mestre2. By accident, you are present when Mestre testifies:

a. Signature on the security agreement is his own.b. The agreement was “genuine”c. The document expressed the agreement between the parties

3. Mestre’s new lawyer offered the agreement in evidence and the court accepted it

What should you do now?

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Problem 8.5, page 1481. You withdrew from representation of Mestre2. By accident, you are present when Mestre testifies:

a. Signature on the security agreement is his own.b. The agreement was “genuine”c. The document expressed the agreement between the parties

3. Mestre’s new lawyer offered the agreement in evidence and the court accepted it

What should you do now?

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Problem 8.5, page 1481. You withdrew from representation of Mestre2. By accident, you are present when Mestre testifies:

a. Signature on the security agreement is his own.b. The agreement was “genuine”c. The document expressed the agreement between the parties

3. Mestre’s new lawyer offered the agreement in evidence and the court accepted it

What should you do now?

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Problem 8.5, page 1481. You withdrew from representation of Mestre2. By accident, you are present when Mestre testifies:

a. Signature on the security agreement is his own.b. The agreement was “genuine”c. The document expressed the agreement between the parties

3. Mestre’s new lawyer offered the agreement in evidence and the court accepted it

What should you do now?

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Problem 8.5, page 1481. You withdrew from representation of Mestre2. By accident, you are present when Mestre testifies:

a. Signature on the security agreement is his own.b. The agreement was “genuine”c. The document expressed the agreement between the parties

3. Mestre’s new lawyer offered the agreement in evidence and the court accepted it

What should you do now?

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Problem 8.5, page 1481. You withdrew from representation of Mestre2. By accident, you are present when Mestre testifies:

a. Signature on the security agreement is his own.b. The agreement was “genuine”c. The document expressed the agreement between the parties

3. Mestre’s new lawyer offered the agreement in evidence and the court accepted it

What should you do now?

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Problem 8.5, page 1481. You withdrew from representation of Mestre2. By accident, you are present when Mestre testifies:

a. Signature on the security agreement is his own.b. The agreement was “genuine”c. The document expressed the agreement between the parties

3. Mestre’s new lawyer offered the agreement in evidence and the court accepted it

What should you do now?

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Rule 1.6: Confidentiality of Information(a) A lawyer shall not reveal information relating to the representation . . . unless the client gives informed consent, the disclosure is impliedly authorized in order to carry out the representation or the disclosure is permitted by paragraph (b).(b) A lawyer may reveal [such] information . . . to the extent the lawyer reasonably believes necessary:(2) to prevent the client from committing a crime or fraud that is reasonably certain to result in substantial injury to the financial interests . . . of another and in furtherance of which the client has used or is using the lawyer's services;

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Rule 3.3 Candor Toward the Tribunal(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: (1) make a false statement of fact or law to a tribunal. . . (3) If a . . . lawyer's client . . . has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal . . . . (b) A lawyer who represents a client in an adjudicative

proceeding and who knows that a person . . . has engaged in criminal or fraudulent conduct related to the proceeding shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal.

(c) Paragraphs (a) and (b) . . . apply even if compliance requires disclosure of information otherwise protected by Rule 1.6.

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Rule 3.3 Candor Toward the Tribunal(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: (1) make a false statement of fact or law to a tribunal. . . (3) If a . . . lawyer's client . . . has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal . . . .

In re Ward, 894 F2d 771 (5th Cir. 1990): A lawyer has no duty in tort to bankruptcy court before which it has not appeared to inform court of an asset it "had reason to suspect" was not scheduled. "We can see situations in which some professional duty to the court may arise when a firm, even though not before the court, has actual knowledge that an outstanding asset of a bankrupt is being concealed." At 776.

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Rule 3.3 Candor Toward the Tribunal(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: (1) make a false statement of fact or law to a tribunal. . . (3) If a . . . lawyer's client . . . has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal . . . .

Rule 1.9(c). A lawyer who has formerly represented a client . . . shall not . . . reveal information relating to the representation except as these Rules would permit or require with respect to a client.

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Rule 3.3 Candor Toward the Tribunal(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: (1) make a false statement of fact or law to a tribunal. . . (3) If a . . . lawyer's client . . . has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal . . . .

"We can see situations in which some professional duty to the court may arise when a firm, even though not before the court, has actual knowledge that an outstanding asset of a bankrupt is being concealed." At 776.

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Rule 3.3 Candor Toward the Tribunal(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: (1) make a false statement of fact or law to a tribunal. . . (3) If a . . . lawyer's client . . . has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal . . . .

In re Ward, 894 F2d 771 (5th Cir. 1990): A [law firm] has no duty in tort to bankruptcy court before which it has not appeared to inform court of an asset it "had reason to suspect" was not scheduled. "We can see situations in which some professional duty to the court may arise when a firm, even though not before the court, has actual knowledge that an outstanding asset of a bankrupt is being concealed." At 776.

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Rule 3.3 Candor Toward the Tribunal(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: (1) make a false statement of fact or law to a tribunal. . . (3) If a . . . lawyer's client . . . has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal . . . .

In re Ward, 894 F2d 771 (5th Cir. 1990): A [law firm] has no duty in tort to bankruptcy court before which it has not appeared to inform court of an asset it "had reason to suspect" was not scheduled. "We can see situations in which some professional duty to the court may arise when a firm, even though not before the court, has actual knowledge that an outstanding asset of a bankrupt is being concealed." At 776.

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Rule 3.3 Candor Toward the Tribunal(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: (1) make a false statement of fact or law to a tribunal. . . (3) If a . . . lawyer's client . . . has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal . . . . In re Ward, 894 F2d 771 (5th Cir. 1990): A [law firm] has no

duty in tort to bankruptcy court before which it has not appeared to inform court of an asset it "had reason to suspect" was not scheduled. "We can see situations in which some professional duty to the court may arise when a firm, even though not before the court, has actual knowledge that an outstanding asset of a bankrupt is being concealed." At 776.Solution: control your own knowledge.

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Rule 3.3 Candor Toward the Tribunal(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly: (1) make a false statement of fact or law to a tribunal. . . (3) If a . . . lawyer's client . . . has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal . . . . In re Ward, 894 F2d 771 (5th Cir. 1990): A [law firm] has no

duty in tort to bankruptcy court before which it has not appeared to inform court of an asset it "had reason to suspect" was not scheduled. "We can see situations in which some professional duty to the court may arise when a firm, even though not before the court, has actual knowledge that an outstanding asset of a bankrupt is being concealed." At 776.Solution: control your own knowledge. Is this ethics?

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Systems observations§9-203(b)(3)(A) requires an authenticated security agreement

to prevent fraud by the secured creditor. Article 9 does not require the secured creditor to publicly file

the security agreement; the secured creditor can keep it in a private file

Article 9 requires the secured creditor to file a financing statement. A financing statement rarely qualifies as a security agreement.

Fraud is easy.How does the real estate system deal with this problem?

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Systems observations§9-203(b)(3)(A) requires an authenticated security agreement

to prevent fraud by the secured creditor. Article 9 lets the secured creditor keep it in a private file

Article 9 requires the secured creditor to file a financing statement. A financing statement rarely qualifies as a security agreement.

Fraud is easy.How does the real estate system deal with this problem?

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Systems observations§9-203(b)(3)(A) requires an authenticated security agreement

to prevent fraud by the secured creditor. Article 9 lets the secured creditor keep it in a private file

Article 9 requires a public filing, but not of the security agreement.

Fraud is easy.How does the real estate system deal with this problem?

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Systems observations§9-203(b)(3)(A) requires an authenticated security agreement

to prevent fraud by the secured creditor.Article 9 lets the secured creditor keep it in a private file

Article 9 requires a public filing, but not of the security agreement.

Security agreement fraud is easy. Common problem.How does the real estate system deal with this problem?

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Systems observations§9-203(b)(3)(A) requires an authenticated security agreement

to prevent fraud by the secured creditor.Article 9 lets the secured creditor keep it in a private file

Article 9 requires a public filing, but not of the security agreement.

Security agreement fraud is easy. Common problem.How does the real estate system deal with this problem?

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Systems observations§9-203(b)(3)(A) requires an authenticated security agreement

to prevent fraud by the secured creditor.Article 9 lets the secured creditor keep it in a private fileArticle 9 requires a public filing, but not of the security

agreement.Security agreement fraud is easy. Common problem.How does the real estate system deal with this problem?

Can mortgagees “fix” their mortgages when trouble arises?