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Page 1: © Alcohol Medical Scholars Program1 Motivational Interviewing Regarding Substance Use in the Medical Setting John M. Wryobeck, Ph.D.

© Alcohol Medical Scholars Program 1

Motivational Interviewing

Regarding Substance Use in the

Medical Setting

John M. Wryobeck, Ph.D

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SUD in the Medical Setting

• ~ 30 % ED Pts have AUD

• 50% trauma Pts, + for drugs

• 24% hospital admits have AUD

• 33% non-trauma admits related to AUD

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SUD in the Medical Setting

• ~ 20% medical clinic Pts have AUD

• SUD among top 3 diseases worldwide

• SUD related to many injuries/disease

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SUD Interventions

• External motivation

• Education – information motivates change

• Persuasion – logic motivates change

• Elicit internal motivation

• Explore Pts knowledge/thoughts about change

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This Lecture Reviews

• Definition & Principles

• Basic Skills of MI

• Basic Steps of MI

• Research supporting MI

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Definition & Principles

• Directing style• 1 active participant

– Manage

– Lead

– Take charge

– Go along

• Guiding style • 2 active participants

– Enlighten

– Encourage

– Support

– Elicit

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Principles - Ambivalence

• Ambivalence is normal

• Persuasion & confrontation avoided

• Elicit/reinforce own motivation

• Discuss how change relates to desires

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Principles - Empathy

• Express empathy Understanding & honesty

• Communicates acceptance, support

• Non-verbal & “reflective” empathy

• State emotion underlying Pt statement

• Paraphrase Pt statement to show understanding

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Example: Empathy

• Pt: I say I am going to quit but don’t.

• Dr: It is frustrating not accomplishing what you want.

• Pt: Drinking is ruining my health but I can’t change.

• Dr: ?

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Principles – Roll w/ Resistance

• Resistance when Pt feels unheard

• Ambivalence & self determination ≠ resistance

Resistance through reflective listening

• Requires “active listening”

• Invites Pt to view situation differently

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Example: Reflective Listening

• Pt: What do you know about drinking?

• Dr: It’s hard to imagine I could understand.

• Pt: My drinking really isn’t that bad.

• Dr: ?

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Principles – Confidence

• Develop confidence

• Pt must believe they can change

• Support small changes

• Any + change Pt willing to make is supported

• Elicit/reinforce statements of confidence

• Use reflection, evocative questions

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Principles - Confidence

• Evocative questions• What might be a good first step?• What gives you confidence that you might do

this?

• Past success• What change have you made successfully

and what did you learn in making that change?

• When you last abstained, what worked for you?

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This Lecture Reviews

• Definition & Principles

• Basic Skills of MI

• Basic Steps of MI

• Research supporting MI

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Basic Skills - Asking

• Asking

• Open-ended questions gain more information

• Skillful asking is element of guiding style

• What kind of change makes sense to you? vs• Are you willing to make any changes?

• Open-ended questions are simple, focused, neutral

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Example: Asking

• Learning questions

• What went well and why?

• What would you do differently now?

• How might the outcome be improved?

• Other?

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Example: Asking

• Value Questions

• What are your priorities at this time in life?

• What matters to you?

• How does alcohol fit in your life?

• Other?

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Example: Asking

• Skill Questions

• What did you learn about your skills as you cut back on your drinking?

• Were there any surprises?

• What are you doing (behavior) when you find abstinence/reduction is going well?

• Other ?

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Basic Skills - Listening

• Listening• Reflect resistance• Reflect change-talk

Desire

Ability

Reasons

Resistance

Status Quo

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Basic Skills - Informing

• Informing

• Information exchange vs receptacle

• Provide choice

• Inform skillfully

• Elicit-inform-elicit

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This Lecture Reviews

• Definition & Principles

• Basic Skills of MI

• Basic Steps of MI

• Research supporting MI

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Steps - Rapport

• Establish rapport

• Ask permission

• Non-threatening language

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Steps - Rapport

I would like to spend a few minutes

talking about how alcohol fits into

your life. Would that be ok?

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Steps - Scaling

• Assess Pt motivation• Importance Ruler• Confidence Ruler

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Change Talk Resistance

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Is important & I can change.

Is important but I cannot change.

Not important but I could change.

Not important & I cannot change.

↑ Importance

↓ Importance

↑ Confidence ↓ Confidence

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Case Example - Scaling

• Dr: How important is it to make changes to your drinking?

• Dr: How confident are you that you would be successful if you tried to quit?

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Steps – Reflect Change talk

• Elicit Motivation

• When you hear change talk:

• Reflect it

• Use open-ended question to elicit more

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Case Example

• Pt: I sometimes drink too much.

• Dr: What makes you think that?

• Pt: I don’t know when to quit.

• Dr: You don’t feel you need to stop but drinking causes you problems.

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Steps – Resolve Ambivalence

• Resolve ambivalence = identify inconsistency

• Inconsistency between values & behaviors

• Discussion of pros and cons of change

• Identify for what Pt is motivated

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Case Example

• Pt: I need to cut down but I entertain clients.

• Dr: Client’s take precedence over your health.

• Pt: No, my health is important to me.

• Dr: You can entertain clients and be healthy by altering drinking.

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This Lecture Reviews

• Definition & Principles

• Basic Skills of MI

• Basic Steps of MI

• Research supporting MI

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% of RCT’s Finding MI Effective in Medical Settings

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% Reduction in Use Medical/SUD Setting

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Summary

• AUD’s will be seen in medical settings

• Guiding as alternative to directing

• Understand Pt ambivalence

• MI principles/skills/steps support Pt

• Research supports use in medical settings


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