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Gregor Erbenich Global Marketing Manager Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH 9th International Vacuum Insulation Symposium The Royal Institution of Great Britain 17 and 18 September 2009 London, UK Create space – save energy with Vacupor® VIPs How to identify a high quality VIP - methods and techniques to guarantee high quality in production and application - Gregor Erbenich Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH Heisinger Straße 8 D-87437 Kempten Tel.: +49 (0) 831 / 57 53 60 Fax: +49 (0) 831 / 57 53 63 e-Mail:[email protected]
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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

How to identify a high quality VIP

- methods and techniques to guarantee high quality in production and application -

Gregor ErbenichPorextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

Heisinger Straße 8D-87437 Kempten

Tel.: +49 (0) 831 / 57 53 60Fax: +49 (0) 831 / 57 53 63

e-Mail:[email protected]

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What is the difference between?

vs.

Nobody asks:� How long does it keep vacuum?� How can I control the vacuum?� Does it work properly?

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What determines the quality of a VIP?main parameters

� Raw materials ⇒ e.g. quality of fumed silica (surface), open cell foam (cell size, open cell content)

� Moisture content of raw materials

� Humidity in production and raw material storage facilities

� Barrier properties of film

� Quality of sealing

� Vacuum level

� Density of core

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Quality testing before, during and after productionWhat can be done? – Who can do it?

Before production During productionAfter production

Before shipment

After shipment

Before use

� Raw materials ⇒ e.g. quality of fumed silica, open cell foam

� Moisture content of raw materials

� Barrier properties

Producer Customer

� Visual check �� Haptics check �� Dimension check �

� Internal pressure ?� Thermal conductivity ?

� Humidity in production� vacuum level � quality of sealing� density of core

� Visual check� Haptics check� Dimension check� Internal pressure � Thermal conductivity

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Can VIP quality be measured?main requirements

� Thermal conductivity

� Internal pressure

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Pressure [mbar]

Th

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al

Co

nd

ucti

vit

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[mW

/(m

*K)]

fumed silica

open cell PU-foam

open cell PS-foam

precipitated silica

glass fiber

PU-foam withoutvacuum

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Can VIP-quality be measured?Overview of test methods for thermal conductivity

Reference VIPs for calibration curveHeat flowXHeat Flow comparison method

Oxidisable surface(only good / bad verdict possible)

Gas volumeXGas volume sensor

Calibration curve λ vs. p for VIPInterior gas pressure pXGas pressure sensor

Laser distance measurementCalibration curve λ vs. p for VIP

Interior gas pressure pXFoil lift-off method

Different parametersThermal effusivity EXMeasurement effusivity

Calibration (λ vs. p for membrane and λ vs. pfor VIP)

Heat flowXInsertion of solid bodies method

Heat transfer coefficient UXHot box method

Calibration standardTemperature difference ∆TXHeat Flow method

Amount of heat QXGuarded hot plate method

indirectdirect

What is required to determine thermal conductivity?

Measured parameterMeasuring procedureMethod

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Main VIP test methods Guarded hot plate method

Source: LaserComp USA

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Main VIP test methods

Function

� Energy that flows through the specimen/sample at defined surface temperatures (hot and cold plate) and specimen thickness is measured.

� Thermal conductivity is calculated out of these values independently on material and thickness

� Due to extremely low heat flow through a VIP, stabilization takes quite long

Guarded hot plate method

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Main VIP test methods

Advantages

� Very accurate/direct measurement of thermal conductivity.All parameters are known or determined automatically

� Nearly no limitation (max. 760 mm width) of specimen size and thickness

� Easy to handle, comfortable

Disadvantages

� Very slow. ~ 1 – 1,5 h per measurement

� Not mobile

� Expansive devices (52.000 – 100.000 $)

Guarded hot plate method

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Main VIP test methods Foil lift-off method

Device installed in vacuum chamber External „suction bell“ device

Source: The Vac Company GmbH

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Main VIP test methods

Function

� VIP will be placed in evacuation chamber (or under suction bell)

� Pressure inside the chamber will be reduced until gas pressure inside the VIP is higher than pressure inside the chamber

� Foil lift-off will be detected by a laser device and pressure level will be determined automatically

Foil lift-off method

Vacuum chamber

VIP

pVIP

pchamber

Laser device

Fixing plate

Barrier film

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Main VIP test methods

Advantages

� Very accurate measurement of internal pressure with chamber installed version

� Nearly no limitation of specimen size and thickness

Disadvantages

� Reasonable fast ~ 2 – 5 min (in vacuum chamber) per measurement

� Not mobile„mobile version“ is not really mobile. Double check necessary due to adhesion of barrier film to core

� Reasonable expansive

� for 100% testing, too slow or chamber blocked for production

Foil lift-off method

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

external measurement head

internal sensor disk

vacuum panel30 mm

Main VIP test methods Insertion of solid body method

source: Va-Q-tec

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Function

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- f

leece

[m

W/(

m*K

)]

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m*K

)]

λ � p

λfleece � p p � λinsert = λVIP

Main VIP test methods Insertion of solid body method

Measurement can be influenced by:- Different temperature - Airflow- Incomplete surface contact- Quality of fleece (porosity, density, moisture

content etc.)

Result can be influenced by:- Core quality / formulation - Density- Moisture content etc.

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

main VIP test methods

Advantages

� Fast measurement

� Very accurate measurement of internal pressure under defined conditions!

� no limitation of specimen size and thickness

� comparable cheap

Disadvantages

� defined conditions for measurement absolutely necessary

� Calibration curves necessary for calculate thermal conductivity value.

� not “commercial” available, due to patent situation

� not standardized/normed

Insertion of solid body method

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Interim conclusionVarious methods are available, but …

either

to slow,to expansive,

too sensitive (temperature etc.),not mobile

or

fast enough, but …indirect measurements,

too sensitive (needs defined measurement conditions) � not reliable enoughnot “free” availablenot contact free

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What would be desirableThe ideal measurement device

Measurement device / sensor for thermal conductivity and inner pressure

� very accurate

� contact free / remote monitoring

� independent of external influences (temperature, airflow etc.)

� saved historic values “on board” for serious lifetime calculation

� small / light weight

� easy to handle

� reasonably priced

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What can be doneCross-linked quality system

Measurement devices

Quality certification

Customer training

Product protection

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What can be doneSolutions, to increase quality level and customer confidence

� Quality certification ⇒ e.g. ISO 9001

� External control of producers ⇒ e.g. compulsory in connection with DIBtapproval � Ü-Label

DIN EN ISO 9001:2000

Zertifikat: 01 100 030449

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What can be doneSolutions, to increase quality level and customer confidence

�Quality label ⇒ RAL – VIP quality label

� labeling / handling instructions

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What can be doneSolutions, to increase quality level and customer confidence

� panel protection

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What can be doneSolutions, to increase quality level and customer confidence

� panel protection

protection layer – rubber granule matprotection layer – EPS

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What can be doneSolutions, to increase quality level and customer confidence

� panel protection

protection layer – XPS

sour

ce:

Pol

ywer

t

protection layer – Polyester fiber mat

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What can be doneSolutions, to increase quality level and customer confidence

� panel protection

plaster-based sheeting

sour

ce:

Vak

u-Is

othe

rm

with PVC-frame

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

What can be doneSolutions, to increase quality level and customer confidence

� training

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Conclusion

� Lot of suitable measurement devices are available, but a very accurate, robust, reliable, easy to handle and reasonable cheap system is not available yet.

� Quality is not create by measurements but in a serious, controlled production and production process

� Quality can only be obtained by users that are aware of the sensitivity of the product

� Sensitivity of the product can be reduced by intelligent protection

High quality can only be achieved by producers with an

extremely high quality approach and customers/users that know and respect the limitations of the product.

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Gregor Erbenich

Global Marketing Manager

Porextherm Dämmstoffe GmbH

9th International Vacuum Insulation SymposiumThe Royal Institution of Great Britain

17 and 18 September 2009

London, UK

Create space – save energy

with Vacupor® VIPs

Thank you for your attention


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