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The Stock Market

Crash of

October 2008 &

BeyondByRobert Gover, USA.

n various articles and my bookTime andMoney: the Economy and the Planets, Ipredicted a great depression to begin in

2008 and last till at least 2018 and probablybeyond. So I am not surprised thatworldwide stock markets are crashing as Iwrite this, in October 2008. The Dow endedthe week Friday, October 10 down 40% fromits top a year previous.

Throughout the worlds financialcommunity, panic reined. Members of theG7 nations gathered the weekend ofOctober 11 and 12 in Washington to puzzleover how to arrest the downward plunge ofstocks, reducing or wiping out the pensionsof uncounted millions and constrictingcredit. The following Monday, October 13,2008, the Dow leaped a record 936 points, thebiggest oneday point gain since 1933, and

11.6%, the steepest percentage rise since 1939.The behavior of stock markets so far

in October was called a Black Swan event,comparable to winning the lottery twice inthe same week.

The public is learning such conceptsas credit default swaps a ruse to avoidgovernment insurance regulations, and thetrickeries of accounting which has created a

distorted system for decades.My specialty is economic astrology, somy interest is in comparing this currentcrash with previous like events. I have spentyears finding planetary patterns that have

IRobert Gover (born November 2, 1929)grew up in an endowed orphanage

(Girard College in Philadelphia),received a B.A. in Economics from theUniversity of Pittsburgh, worked as a journalist, became a best-selling novelistat age 30, lived most of his life inCalifornia, and now lives in RehobothBeach, Delaware. On the Run with Dickand Jane is his ninth novel. His previousbook, Time and Money, explores economic

and planetary cyclical correlations. Hisfirst novel, One Hundred Dollar Misunderstanding, a satire on Americanracism, remains a cult classic that helped break down America's fear of four-letterwords and sexually explicit scenes, as wellas sensitizing Americans to sanctimonioushypocrisy. He can be contacted atgocylces@aol.com orwww.robertgover.com

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historically correlated with stock market crashes and economic depressions. If we becomeaware of these patterns, we can know when the next period of economic distress is due tohit. If we are aware that the SaturnUranus opposition were now operating under demandswe change established ideologies and procedures, we may avoid the worst.

Since industrialization, there have been repeating cycles of booms and busts. In boom

times, people feel optimistic and get busy producing and consuming, creating prosperity.Then, for no apparent reason, the boom time ends and we cycle into a period of pessimism.One of the first indicators of pessimism is a stock market crash.

Some stock market crashes in the past have heralded recessions, depressions and greatdepressions, so the number 1 question hanging now is, will this supererratic October 2008stock market lead us into another?

Examining the three worst crashes of the 20th Century1907, 1929 and 1987only theone of 1929 led into a great depression. Why? There are endless explanations offered by avariety of experts, most of them quite logical. The explanation I offer here is astrological.

Astrology is not considered logical by modern science, yet anyone who has studiedastrology realizes that planetary influences affect us subtlely on an invisible level. For thesake of this discussion, lets call it the level of subconscious mind.

My research has led me to two hypotheses:1) Every time the USAs natal MarsNeptune square is afflicted by one or more of the

outermost planets, we enter a time when a stock market crash becomes possible, likelyor virtually certain.

2) Every time the USAs SunSaturn square is hit by the outermost planets in theCardinal Signs of Capricorn and Ariesforming a grand cross pattern with the USAsnatal SunSaturn squarethe nation has suffered a great depression, and there havebeen no exceptions to this rule of thumb.

Its when afflictions to the US MarsNeptune square (causing crashes) have thenevolved into afflictions to the USAs SunSaturn square that crashes have led into greatdepressions. It is this sequence of afflictions we are facing now.

Lets examine the worst stock market crashes to illustrate.

hen the Panic of 1907hit, the USAs Neptune was opposition transiting Uranusin Pisces, and Pluto was conjunct the US Mars. The roughly 30year cycle ofSaturn in Capricorn preceded this crash, and because none of the other

outermost planets were in Aries, this crash was not followed by a great depression.When the Crash of 29 hit in late October, Saturn was in Sagittarius opposite, and

Jupiter in Gemini was conjunct the US Mars and square the US Neptune, and the NewMoon was conjunct the US Neptune. As Saturn then moved into Capricorn to squareUranus in Aries, the Crash of 29 led into the great depression of the 1930s.

When the Crash of 1987hit, the planetary culprits were Saturn and Uranus conjunctin Sagittarius, aided by Chiron in Gemini, conjunct the US Mars. What followed was aconjunction in Capricorn of Saturn, Uranus and Neptune, but because these planets did notsquare another in Aries, no great depression. Pluto, was in Scorpio, forming a beneficentsextile to the trio in Capricorn.

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When the Crash of 2008turned down with grimdetermination under the FullMoon on Monday, September 15,the US MarsNeptune square wasbeing hit by the Full Moon, a

SaturnUranus opposition, and ifwe expand the orb a bit, a grand

cross formed by Pluto in Sagittarius opposite the US Mars in Gemini. By 2010, Uranus willhave moved into Aries and Pluto into the mid range of Capricorn, forming the grand crosspattern to the USAs natal SunSaturn square, to form the great depression grand cross.

In 1929, the US SunSaturn square was also being hit by Uranus in Aries while Plutothen was in Cancer, opposite Capricorn.

The nowforming UranusPluto square is due to hit with full force from 2012 through2015, but we can expect the overall economy to be in deep trouble by 2010 when a Tsquare

will be formed by Saturn in Libra, Pluto in Capricorn and Uranus in Aries.These transittonatal aspects do not have to be exact to be effective. And it often

happens that Plutos full effects arent felt till Pluto has moved on, releasing the exactsquare, opposition or conjunction. Plutos effects are often most powerful in its waningphase.

rom an astrological perspective, the reason we are headed into a great depressionlasting from 2008 to at least 2018 and (depending how we respond) perhaps beyond, isthe upcoming square from Uranus in Aries to Pluto in Capricorn, creating another

grand cross pattern with the US SunSaturn square.There is another, longer planetary cycle we must factor into this forecast, and that is

Plutos roughly 248 year orbit around the Sun. For Pluto is, as I write this, in the final degrees ofSagittarius, conjunct the Galactic Center. Its previous visit to this area of the heavens coincided withthe years leading up to the American Revolution. Prior to that, in the early 1500s it coincided witha pandemic inadvertently brought by European explorers, which depopulated the Americas.

Plutos movement through the last 3 degrees of Sagittarius has a history of bringinghuge transformations. When we add the upcoming UranusPluto square and grand crosswith the US SunSaturn square, the coming decade appears to be another major turningpoint in human history, comparable to the early 1500s and 1760s.

Hard angles by Uranus

and Plutowhenever andwherever they have formedhave a history of bringingrevolution and fundamentalchange. And, because the presentSaturnUranus opposition willlast well into 2010 and morph intoa Tsquare with Pluto, we canexpect the current crash of stock

prices and chaos to lead intoanother great depression, this one likely to be worse than any in memory, owing to Plutoslingering conjunct the Galactic Center.

What we are living through is a convergence of planetary cycles: 1) the 45yearSaturnUranus opposition, 2) the 248year PlutoGalactic Center conjunction, and 3) the

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E v e r y t i m e t h e U S A s n a t a l M a r s - N e p t u n e

s q u a r e i s a f f l i c t e d b y o n e o r m o r e o f t h e

o u t e r m o s t p l a n e t s , w e e n t e r a t i m e w h e n a

s t o c k m a r k e t c r a s h b e c o m e s p o s s i b l e , l i k e l y o r

v i r t u a l l y c e r t a i n .

E v e r y t i m e t h e U S A s S u n - S a t u r n s q u a r e i s h i t

b y t h e o u t e r m o s t p l a n e t s i n t h e C a r d i n a l S i g n s o f

C a p r i c o r n a n d A r i e s f o r m i n g a g r a n d c r o s s

p a t t e r n w i t h t h e U S A s n a t a l S u n - S a t u r n

s q u a r e t h e n a t i o n h a s s u f f e r e d a g r e a t

d e p r e s s i o n , a n d t h e r e h a v e b e e n n o e x c e p t i o n s t o

t h i s r u l e o f t h u m b .

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UranusPluto square and grand cross with US SunSaturn square, which last coincided withthe great depression of the 1930s. By 20132015, Uranus will have completed its 84yearcyclesince 19291933.

Note that there has been one major change in the world economy since previouscrashes: Today the biggest profits come from making money produce more money;previously, profits came from investing money in making goods and services. This new

money game is a Ponzi Scheme. Its cottoncandy money that evaporates when stockmarkets crash. This makes the economy even more vulnerable to that famous wreckingcrew, the SaturnUranus opposition.

Those who do not believe in the potency of planetary cycles call themselves rational. Ihave yet to meet a human being I can truly say is rational, but thats another story.Rationalists point to causeeffect events leading to stock market crashes and greatdepressions. From the astrological perspective, these causeeffect events are manifestationsof planetary aspects acting on the invisible causal plane or subconscious realm. As above,so below, as one ancient stargazer put it.

Now that modern rational science is venturing into the subatomic realm, we may liveto see the day when science will make a discovery: that what happens up there in the skycorrelates with what happens in the subatomic realm. This would be a rediscovery of Asabove, so below.

Meanwhile, you can bet the farm that by the mid2000teens, much of the world willbe struggling through another great depression, and a time of massive transformation withthe high possibility of another world war.

The bigger the balloon of optimism preceding busts, the bigger and more longlastingthe succeeding bust is. The good news is, humanity has survived great depressions sincerecords have been kept, and found ways to improve economic conditions coming out of suchhard times.

Meanwhile, millions of hard working, playbytherules citizens of the USA, Europeand elsewhere will probably lose all or part of their pensions in the present ongoing financialcollapse. This means the rules of the money game and/or the monetary system will havechange if we are to avoid the worst. .

Best possible scenario, the powers that be will make the changes necessary to avoidmassive starvation and homelessness.

In fact, this process appears to have already begun. The US government, after decadesof promoting socalled freemarket capitalism, has suddenly done an ideological aboutface

by socializing the debt incurred by big corporations. This is being done to save the capitalistsystem.

In fact it revolutionizes the system by sovietizing it. What scared 20th Centurycapitalists about communism was the old Soviet Unions ownership of banks and bigindustry. If transplanted to the USA, they feared, it would mean spreading the wealthhorizontally. Well, now it is being transplanted to the G7 capitalist nations.

What is underway as I write this is an attempt to socialize the debt of these freemarket ideologues without socializing their profits too. They want to keep big corporateprofits private while distributing debts to the public.

The logical next step is for government authorities to come out of their ideologicalTrickledown trance and realize they cant save their most generous campaign contributors(the big bankers) without saving the people who make the big bankers rich, the vastmajority of workers and consumers. The vast majority needs to be saved in order to continuesupporting the wealthy few.

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There is another problem with the present bailout of banks and big corporations. Noamount of such bailouts will overcome the reluctance of the majority of people to buymoney and consume products at any interest rate, especially if inflation and unemploymentcontinue to rise. And there will be more astounding surprises in store for the whole economyas this series of SaturnUranus oppositions make direct hitsin 2008 on Election DayNovember 4, in 2009 on February 5 and September 15, and in 2010 on April 25 and July 26.

As Uranuss square with Pluto continues to tighten, we can look for revolutionarythinking to arise and prevail. Together, Uranus and Pluto will terminate what no longerworks and initiate the new and improved. The sensible thing for us humans to do iscooperate with this process of economic transformation. The old ideology has clearly led usto a funnymoney economy (the rich minority and the increasingly poor majority). Everypast great depression in US history has been preceded by a record disparity between the richfew and the majority. What is needed is systemic change that will distribute wealth morehorizontally. Uranus looks out for the downtrodden.

he biwheel chart below shows the USAs birth on the inner wheel and MondaySeptember 15, 2008 Full Moon chart on the outer wheel. It was this Lunation thattriggered a more forceful plunge in already erratic stock markets. Notice that the

Lunation hit the SaturnUranus opposition, which in turn was conjunct the USAs natalNeptune, square the USAs natal Mars.

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The second biwheel chart is for the Crash of 1987. Again it was Saturn and Uranus

afflicting the US MarsNeptune square, this time with help from Chrion in Gemini.

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For the Crash of 1929, Saturn in Sagittarius opposite Jupiter in Gemini afflicted the USMarsNeptune square. The crash this day was triggered by the Moon conjunct the USNeptune. Why did this one lead into a great depression? Note Uranus in Aries opposite theUS Saturn and square the US Sun, the signature of great depressions. Also notice that Pluto

was conjunct the US Sun, while Mercury and Venue were conjunct the US Saturn.

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