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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MIAMI - DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS , INC . ( 305 ) 373 - 5600 1 CLERK OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 111 NW 1 Street, Commission Conference Room Wednesday, May 27, 2015 @ 10:30 a.m. VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD INTERGOVERNMENTAL SERVICES DIVISION BOARD MEMBERS (Present) Commissioner Juan Zapata, Chairman Commissioner Jose "Pepe" Diaz School Board Member Raquel Regalado Mr. Anibal Duarte-Viera Hani Jardack VAB ATTORNEY Manuel A. Blanco, Esq. COUNTY ATTORNEY ' S OFFICE Jorge Martinez-Esteve Assistant County Attorney STAFF Pedro Garcia, Property Appraiser Lazaro Solis, Office of Property Appraiser Robert Alfaro, VAB Manager Mark Martinez, Clerk of the Courts
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CLERK OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS111 NW 1 Street, Commission Conference Room

Wednesday, May 27, 2015 @ 10:30 a.m.

VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARDINTERGOVERNMENTAL SERVICES DIVISION

BOARD MEMBERS(Present)

Commissioner Juan Zapata, ChairmanCommissioner Jose "Pepe" Diaz

School Board Member Raquel RegaladoMr. Anibal Duarte-Viera

Hani Jardack

VAB ATTORNEY

Manuel A. Blanco, Esq.

COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

Jorge Martinez-EsteveAssistant County Attorney

STAFF

Pedro Garcia, Property AppraiserLazaro Solis, Office of Property Appraiser

Robert Alfaro, VAB ManagerMark Martinez, Clerk of the Courts

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I N D E XITEM PAGE

I. Consideration and adoption of 4recommendations of Special Magistratesas the written decisions of the VABfor the remaining uncertified propertyassessments (folios) for tax year 2013.

II. Final certification of the 2013 tax 6rolls (i.e. as to all assessmentsinitially certified on an unadjustedbasis on October 16, 2013, and for whichhearings were held and SpecialMagistrates' recommendations submittedprior to May 27, 2015.

III. Action item on the procurement and 7solicitation of new software technologyprogram/system, directing staff to preparea solicitation for procurement of newsoftware technology program system.

IV. Further discussion on incentives for 31magistrates to do "Condensed Boards",including a policies and actions takenregarding said Boards.

V. Further discussion about productivity 32and actions taken in developing saidefficiency system for Magistrates, whichshall include; overtime, availability,experience in the VAB system, technologyexperience, reschedules, amount ofcomplaint letters, etc.

VI. Further discussion on potential 95codification and allowance of "SchoolBoard Audits" on expenses only andactions taken regarding legal opinionrequested by the Board.

VII. Discussion and action taken to 100establish metrics for the determinationof the VAB's cost per case.

VIII Such other business as may property 117come before the Board.

A. Approve and authorize the publicationof 2013 Tax Impact Notice.

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MR. BLANCO: All right, Mr. Chair,

Members of the Board, Mr. Property

Appraiser, Members of the Property

Appraiser's Office, Mr. Assistant County

Attorney, Deputy Clerk, we have all the

members -- well, we have four out of the

five Members of the Board here currently,

which is Chairman Commissioner Zapata, Ms.

Raquel Regalado for the School Board, Mr.

Hani Jardack and Mr. Anibal Duarte-Viera

for the citizen members.

This is the required meeting for the

of the certification of 2013 tax year tax

roll, as well as a follow-up meeting

pursuant to our last special meeting held

on April 28th.

So we have all the Board Members now.

Mr. Pepe Diaz is also here now.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Where are we?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We just

started.

MR. BLANCO: We're just starting

right now.

The first two items on the agenda --

the first two items on the agenda are

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regarding the certification of tax roll.

The remaining items are the items

requested in our prior Special Board

Meeting to be discussed and addressed at

this meeting.

This meeting is in accordance with

the government and sunshine manual under

G-1A3. And we are in compliance.

The meeting appears to be mostly for

discussion of the items listed in the

agenda provided to you.

There have also been four written

requests to speak from the public at this

Board meeting: These are from Mr. Stanley

Beck, Mr. Jack Schlosberg, Mr. Larry

Puyanic and Mr. Alejandro Aguirre. I

would suggest a time limit of two minutes

for each speaker. And you all may decide

if you want them to speak during each item

or at the end.

I'm looking at the agenda, which was

provided to you each, and I'm going to

follow it for the purposes of this

meeting.

"Consideration and adoption of

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recommendations of special magistrates as

written decisions of the Value Adjustment

Board for the remaining uncertified

property assessments (folios) for tax year

2013."

Mr. Chairman, the special magistrates

make recommendations when they hear cases.

The way the law works is that the Board,

by motion, adopts these recommendations

and they become the final written

decisions of the Board.

We will need a resolution for this

item.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So Item I,

anybody have any questions? Any comments

on it?

Anybody from the public wishes to say

anything? Anybody here who's visiting us?

Do we need a motion?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So moved, Mr.

Chairman.

CHAIRMAN ZAPATA: It's been moved.

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Second.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Seconded.

Anyone objecting to it? Show the

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item adopted without objection.

Next.

MR. BLANCO: Thank you, sir.

"II. Final certification of the 2013

tax rolls." Example as to all assessments

initially certified --

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So moved.

MR. BLANCO: -- and unadjusted.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay. Moved.

Is there a second?

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Second.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Seconded.

Anybody here accompanying us today

want to make any comments on this?

MR. ALFARO: The certificate needs to

be signed.

MR. BLANCO: He didn't let me finish,

but that's fine.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's still going

to be signed.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Do I get a

percentage of this 60 million?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: He's just kidding

for the record. For the record, he's just

kidding.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Those are big

numbers, man.

All right. So is there any question?

Any objection? Okay. Show that item

adopted without objection.

MR. BLANCO: "Item III. Action item

on procurement and solicitation of new

software technology, program/system,

directing staff to prepare solicitation

for procurement of new software technology

program system."

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Chairman, on

the item.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay,

Commissioner Diaz.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Thank you.

In the last meeting, you know, I

basically was telling the Board that it's

good to go through the IT system that we

have and everything else.

I want to be real clear, the reason

why I asked that is because of the

Firewall and how protective it is in the

County. The Clerk's Office, this is their

responsibility and dominion.

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What I want to make sure is that we

do not slow down in any way of getting

this system in, the system based on what

was said in the last meeting. I

understand now the importance of it and

why we need to do it as fast as possible.

At the time I was just looking more

of a security type situation. So whatever

needs to be done to expedite this system,

and to be an independent system the way it

needs to be, the faster, the better.

So I just want to make sure I said

that. And I know everything has to go

through the Clerk, if I'm not mistaken,

clerk of the courts. So we want to make

sure that everything is -- I don't want to

slow it down.

Now, I understand why my colleagues

had their comments. And I want to make

sure that my intent was very clear. My

intent was to make sure the Firewall

protection and to make sure that our

systems are -- because we do get hit on a

daily basis a lot. And we just heard

today that the IRS system got hacked into,

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I believe, yesterday or the day before.

So that was my intent and I want to

make sure of that for the record.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Just

really quickly.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Ms. Regalado.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We had an

opportunity to look over the other

document. Obviously we talked about it at

the last meeting, but I looked over what

the proposal was. And I understand

Commissioner Diaz's concern about the

security, but I'm going to reiterate the

same point a little differently than what

we talked at last time.

I think there's a universe of

protected documents and there is a

universe of public documents. And what I

don't want to do is pay for a platform

that is going to protect a universe of

public documents.

I understand the need to protect the

document as they go through in inputting

into the system, right, as part of what is

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the appellate process, but the documents

that are part of the evidence are public

documents. The documents that are

produced after a decision is made are

public documents.

And I think we really have an

opportunity here to put these in a cloud,

to make them accessible to everyone. I

think that it will facilitate the work of

the agents, and the average taxpayer that

doesn't really understand this process and

will be able to physically look at

documents that have been part of other

cases.

I don't -- you know, I understand

that there is -- you know, it's easier to

go with a turnkey, sort of plug-and-play

platform, but if 90% of that universe is a

PDF that's a public document, I don't

understand why we're securing it.

Why not bifurcate those two universes

and say, look, while during the appellate

process, we need to safeguard this, so

someone doesn't hack into it. And at some

point maybe, you know, change information,

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right? I mean, that's the only thing you

really could do, would be to alter some

input.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: We have social

security numbers.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And that's where

I was getting to. That was my point.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I

understand.

But then, again, look, on the social

security number front, I would tell you, I

mean, I brought to the School Board the

complete elimination of the use of social

security numbers. I would say that's

something at some point we should

consider. There is no way we can protect

them. There is no platform on the planet

that can be protect them. They can all be

hacked into. And once they know they're

there, it's fair game, but I think that's

a little further beyond the conversation

that we're on right now.

At some point we need to establish an

identification number that is unique to

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the VAB, so we don't want people's

personal information and we don't want the

liability for that.

My question, Mr. Alfaro, is, are you

open to the idea of bifurcating the two

universes of documents, you know, having a

platform -- and I know in the report, what

you gave us is a platform for everything.

I just don't understand why we have

to put everything on a platform. Why we

can't put the public aspect of it already

on a cloud and then we have a conversation

about separate website and having it all

up there, because you're duplicating work.

What's going to happen is, we're

going to have a platform so we can have

all these documents, so they can be

secure. And then we're going to have a

conversation about transparency. And then

we're going to get a website, we're going

to take a document, we're going to

transfer them over to the public domain

when they're already in the public domain.

So is there a way, you know, to sort

of separate that, and say what do we need

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for the small universe of the appellate

process? And then all the other stuff,

let's talk about dumping it into the cloud

and making it accessible. And then we

have the third conversation, which is

elimination of social security numbers,

which I think we should have no matter

what.

MR. ALFARO: I think it's probably

more a timing question than anything else,

what you're asking me.

And I believe Commissioner Zapata

just handed out how he wants this process

to be carried over.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: It's a

suggestion.

BOARD MEMBER REGALADO: Right.

MR. ALFARO: A suggestion, and I

think we can follow that.

MR. SOLIS: Chair, if I may.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes, Mr. Solis.

MR. SOLIS: I think just to kind of

put everybody's mind at ease. My

understanding is that all confidential

information, social security numbers,

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income information, expense information,

income tax returns are held within the

Property Appraiser's Office. Those are

very secure and isolated into that system.

The information that is provided to

the VAB for purposes of conducting the

hearing is all public information.

Therefore, in terms of security,

Firewall and safeguarding the VAB system,

the documents and information that are

there are all for public consumption.

The only remaining concern would be,

as you mentioned, somebody hacking in and

maybe altering a number, but other than

that, I think everybody can sort of have

peace of mind that none of the sensitive

confidential information that we currently

hold within our systems is made available

to the VAB.

It's only the information that is

provided at a hearing, either by a tax

representative or the property owner

themselves, that becomes a public

document.

Therefore, the cloud concept or

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having the information all available to

the public should not be of a concern from

a security perspective.

MR. MARTINEZ: The only thing I would

like to add is, when we get into that

detail, those are going to be the

requirement that is going to be brought by

the stakeholders. These are the things

that we want in the system. And if the

clerk's office is going to be involved

with that, they're going to be bringing

different options. And the Board will

select which one meets the criteria best.

And there's many different ways to go

about this.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Mr.

Chair.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes, I want to

try to get this item kind of moving. I

think there's something we need to do

quickly.

Here's a suggestion, before you have

a suggestion of how we go about this. So

let's kind of work out something more

concrete and not go out too much into

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hypotheticals.

So you guys take a look at this.

Basically, it's kind of, you know, laying

out a process to move forward, creating

that selection committee, the composition

of the selection committee. And then, you

know, the staff would then, you know,

advertise this RFP, once it's approved by

the VAB members. You guys will bring up

something for us to review. So I think we

can do that.

So do you have any suggestions?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes.

And, look, I agree with you on the nuts

and bolts of it, it's fine. I agree with

the composition of the selection

committee.

My point is as to the cloud and the

input platform, you know, because what

we've seen before is a platform, and

historically that's what the County has.

So I think that, you know, as we

direct them to work on the RFP, we need to

decide are we open to the idea of putting

the public aspect of this in a cloud.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: And then

a separate --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me ask you

this. This would be housed within the

County's IT infrastructure, correct?

MR. MARTINEZ: All the other ones we

have are.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So this would

be housed there.

Have you had a conversation with

Angel Patisco, our IT Director?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Did you suggest

to him the cloud to him and all that

stuff?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Did he tell you

if he was open?

What I don't want to do is -- we have

to work within that structure. So if he

can handle incorporating that into that

structure, then, you know, I'm sure we can

consider it and make it one of the points

to look at. So we'll just direct staff to

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try to find that -- and I don't have a

problem with that.

I follow what you're saying. I just

want to make sure that, you know, we're

not trying to stick a square peg in a

round hole.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: No, I'm

aware of that. I don't understand, even

if the County didn't want, you know, to

put it in their infrastructure, VAB

technically does not have to have the

documents in a cloud that belongs to the

County. I mean, it just doesn't.

I understand your point that's how

it's done, but just as a point of

reference.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I understand,

but who's going to run that? If it's not

within the County's infrastructure, who

would you run it?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Well,

that's why you enter into a contract part

of the RFP. I'm saying it's not --

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Chairman.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Mr. Diaz.

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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I want to clarify

a little more what I meant to say earlier.

I think what I'm trying to get to the

point is, we're already protected in the

system through our Property Appraiser's

Office.

We need to have an inner working

between the Clerk and all the entities

involved.

And I think what you're trying to say

is that, you want to make sure that we

don't overprotect something that is public

information anyway, but in today's world,

we're all working within a system and a

protected system. And due to that -- and

I've talked to Angel in the past, and I

basically asked a lot of questions as to

which way to go. And I think the Chairman

is very clear, because he brings all the

entities.

So once this is done and the RFP goes

out, it's a simple process that it won't

come back, because somebody didn't input

their part or do anything else.

Now, the only concern that I have on

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the public information, is that people

tend to now become a past time, or it has

been for quite a while, on hacking

information, to play with it, change it

around and do anything they possibly can

with it.

My only issue with the public

information is that they're protected from

people breaking in to change it. That's

it. As far as cloud, or not cloud or

whatever way you want, having this group

of people together preparing for the RFP

will take care of everything you're saying

and everything we're saying. I think it

will work just fine.

So I'm supportive of the way you're

bringing this, Mr. Chairman.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: My only

addition would be to consider during to

the process cloud storage in the County

and outside the County. I'm saying as a

consideration.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But it's two

different things: One is storage where

the information is deposited, and the

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other is who's going to run the system?

Whose infrastructure would run the system?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And they all work

together.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: The question,

and what I was talking about is, are we

putting this within the County's

infrastructure. We could store it

separately.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Look at

the two options is all I'm saying.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, no. My

concern, what I'm saying, if we go in and

have an independent third party, they're

going to run the system. What happens if

that third party fails for whatever

reason, who's responsible at that point?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: But you

also have a contract.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We have a

contract, but if they go out of business,

they have a massive failure, a massive

hack --

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I feel more

secure with our system.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: -- who do you

fall back on?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's

why you have a contract. I hate to be an

attorney, but, I mean, that's why you have

a contract.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And I guarantee

you that when people start to question us

why did we put it in a third party, and

"We have a contract" is not going to cut

it.

I'm sorry, all your information, now

they have some Russian hacker, all the

information collapsed, but we have a

contract.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: No. Come

on.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I understand.

Listen --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You're

making it sound like, you know --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Listen.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: All I'm

saying is consider both options.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I'm playing

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devil's advocate. I have no problem

considering both options.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I'm

saying consider both options.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Everybody's

point is being --

THE COURT REPORTER: Everyone is

speaking at the same time.

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Mr. Chair, I think

you have to check with both issues. There

may be issues with emergency management

backing up stuff.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's where I

was coming from, but I didn't want to get

into it.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You know, this

is out of my realm of knowledge, this

whole IT thing. I mean, I have some very

basic understanding of it.

Do you have a comment on it?

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: No.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Lazaro.

MR. SOLIS: If I may, the day-to-day

operations, the management of the system

could be done within the County facility

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or infrastructure.

The public access to the documents

could be part of a third party. Think of

it as a replica or a backup.

I think what you're both saying is

very doable. We can safeguard the data.

In other words, if the contract fails or

we get into a breach of contract, we would

still continue to operate, the VAB will

continue to move forward.

However, the public access of it, the

information, the mirroring of the data

could also be done by a third party with

minimal impact to County operations or

safeguarding of the documents.

So those are all things that the

committee could consider and come back

with various proposals for this Board to

take up.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's just doable.

Come on, we need to get with the times.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, and the

mirroring is fine. I mean, if that's what

you're talking about, yes, that's fine.

What I don't want is to put it in the

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hands of somebody else.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: But the

point is --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: They're the

keepers.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Thank you

for the clarification.

If you outsource it to a third party

and there is -- there always has to be a

backup, but the idea is that a third party

storage would make it easier to connect it

to the website and make it faster for

people to access the documents. It's just

more seamless. It's easier for them to do

that than for the County to have to, you

know, run that and put the information up

on the website. It would be a lot faster

and cleaner.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So could I make a

motion accepting what the Chairman has put

forth and to expedite it as fast as

possible, and all avenues be addressed,

including clouds and so on within the

committee.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Thank

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you.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So there's a

motion to direct staff to develop an RFP

in collaboration with the Clerk's office

for the procurement for the software. The

selection committee will include

representatives from the Clerk's Office,

the Property Appraiser's Office, Office of

Management and Budget, ITD and the Tax

Collector's Office. They'll prepare and

advertise the RFP and then they'll bring

it before the Board, correct?

A motion?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So moved.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Seconded.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Could we have a

time limit on that?

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Any questions

or comments?

What is the timeframe you guys are

looking at?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Staff, can

anybody --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What's the

timeline here for you guys?

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MR. MARTINEZ: I can't give you an

exact timeline. What I'd like to do is,

within 30 days, we can report.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Progress on it.

MR. MARTINEZ: And then we can see

where we're at.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Thirty days,

but we should have something soon after

those 30 days?

MR. MARTINEZ: Yes, and maybe reach

out before then.

MR. SOLIS: I think the next Board

meeting is scheduled for October.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The

question is, are we going to make it

inside this budget. We have to make our

ask before the budget closes.

MR. SOLIS: If I may on the budget

side, it's going to take time to procure.

Typically, the way that the VAB costs

get charged back to the County and the

School Board are after-the-fact with

actual costs.

So an actual fiscal impact will be

determined once the selection is made by

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this Board and the contract is negotiated.

At that point, you'll have a better idea

what the fiscal impact is.

Typically, a project of this size is

phased in. So depending on the project

line and how long it takes to implement

the system, you can spread the costs over

one fiscal year or multiple fiscal years,

but you will have a very good idea of what

that cost is going to be once a vendor is

selected.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I've been

having conversations with the budget

director and stuff, so I think they're all

aware of this. It will fit in where it

needs to fit in. I'm sure they'll be

something for it in this year's budget.

We'll make sure of it.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I was

going to add, I mean, we should have an

estimate of some sort. I agree with you

that you could parcel it out, but we can

at least have a placeholder and say, look,

the commitment for this year is going to

be X, right? And then we'll have a final

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number at the end and then we can spread

it out.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Have any of you

had that conversation with the budget

director, spoken with her about it?

MR. MARTINEZ: Yes.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I mentioned it

to her, so we'll double-check. We'll make

sure we have something in the budget.

MR. SOLIS: This is actually

something that was discussed, I think,

about a year ago.

MR. MARTINEZ: We knew it five years

ago. They did look at a system, a system

cost around 500,000 at that point. And we

did put money in for this year just in

case that's where we were headed.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Did you put

approximately that amount?

MR. MARTINEZ: We put more than that.

We put more than that, 750.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Basically, you

have your place mat already. We don't

have to advertise. We don't want anybody

to go by whatever it is. Whatever we want

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to have the freedom that whoever bids,

bids properly with all due respect on the

issue.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We'll make sure

there's something in the budget as it

moves forward.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: They said there

is, they already put it in.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Is there

anybody objecting to that? That item was

adopted.

We're on to the next item.

MR. PUYANIC: Could I make one

comment?

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Sure.

MR. PUYANIC: You know, a lot of

times in hearings --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Name for the

record.

MR. PUYANIC: My name is Larry

Puyanic. I'm an agent.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Address.

MR. PUYANIC: 535 Hardee Road, Coral

Gables, Florida.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Thank you.

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MR. PUYANIC: So, anyway, you know, a

lot times when we're in a hearing, we get

tax returns for our clients. I don't

think you guys want to be responsible for

like some guy in Africa getting a copy of

my client's tax returns with their social

security number and his address and all

that stuff. There's stuff that's really

sensitive that goes in these hearings.

That's just my comment.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay. Staff,

I'm sure, will take care of that.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It's a

matter of redacting.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Next item.

MR. BLANCO: "Item IV. Further

discussion on incentives for magistrates

to do 'condensed boards,' including

policies and actions taken regarding the

boards."

And, Mr. Chair, I've provided a

memorandum for the full Board regarding my

perceived definition of a condensed board

and the factors which should be looked at

when hiring magistrates for these types of

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boards.

This actually also addresses Item V,

as listed in the agenda. It should be

discussed, and the final definition as

well as a requirements of magistrates, who

serve in these types of hearings, should

be adopted for codification purposes, once

the Board reaches a consensus. And if you

want to include V, it could be both.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let's take up

Items IV and V together.

MR. BLANCO: "V. Further discussion

about productivity and actions taken in

developing said efficiency system for

magistrates, which shall include overtime,

availability, experience in the VAB

system, technology experience,

reschedules, amount of complaint letters,"

et cetera, et cetera.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Chair.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Commissioner

Diaz.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Blanco, first

and foremost, this is a pretty intense

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report/memorandum. We just got this now,

right? We didn't get this prior?

MR. BLANCO: We didn't have it prior.

It's similar to what I've presented to Ms.

Regalado in the past.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Right, but this

Board needs to have this, so we can

understand before we get here, to read

this stuff. Prior to us coming here that

we can get this information, if it's

possible, because it becomes very

difficult now to try to go through this.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I just got it

today, too.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I just got this.

We need to change the system to make sure

we get at least three days prior. Same

things we do with other meetings of this

magnitude, if we can do that.

One of the things I'd like to do,

which I'll look now, which I wish I had it

ahead of time, because it might be in

here, it might not be.

One of the things that came up from

the prior discussion of the Board before

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or the one prior, that as we look at

magistrates, I would like to find a way

that these magistrates also are from Dade

County. I think if they work, and they

live and they reside in Dade County, they

should be from Dade County. I'm not --

and I'm open to suggestions, but I think

that we do this with boards. We do this

with other things.

And I know that we're here as an

independent board. Both Juan and I belong

to an entity, which is government, and so

does Ms. Regalado, and then we have two

people that don't, but they belong to this

entity. So we're independent and we do

not look toward who we work with or part

of us, so I got that.

But I do believe that we should look

into people being from this County. And

it's something that I think we've done

with other things and other types of level

and other levels of government. And it

only adds to the people's knowledge and

the ones that make these decisions moving

forth.

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The other issue that I have is, what

happens when a person goes to get their

taxes, which is the ones that we represent

in this Board to reduce their taxes, a

citizen, or a resident, a taxpayer and

they don't agree with the magistrate's

decision, what takes place after that?

MR. BLANCO: They can appeal to the

circuit court, basically. It's their only

recourse.

They also could send a letter of

reconsideration to the magistrate. The

magistrate decides he made a mistake or

something, he could correct it and it will

be corrected in the records.

If the magistrate upholds his

original decision, they've got no other

option than to go to the circuit court and

sue in the circuit court.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: What's the time

process for something like that?

MR. BLANCO: Time process is,

whenever he files it with the circuit

court, basically. He'll send a letter to

the Board -- I mean, to the Clerk's

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Office, and the magistrate comes in, reads

a letter, within a week or two makes a

decision, no, I agree with this, or no I

disagree.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So this is a

pretty fast process?

MR. BLANCO: Yes, yes, it's a very

fast process. And then they can sue in

the circuit court, if they so desire.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And then it could

continue on?

MR. BLANCO: It could continue on,

correct.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So the

process doesn't end with the magistrates'

decision?

MR. BLANCO: If there's an appeal, it

goes to circuit court, correct, it goes

to a judge.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Okay. And out of

the -- and, I'm sorry to ask, because I'm

also in the learning process of this whole

thing, how many of these take place?

MR. BLANCO: Not too many.

MR. ALFARO: How many circuit court

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cases?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Or does it go

straight to the circuit? Or just people,

once they go to the magistrate and the

magistrate has a decision?

MR. BLANCO: That would be a huge

property typically. When you're talking

about a humongous property, you're talking

major money, but most cases, whatever,

they don't go to circuit court; it's not

cost effective.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: When I was

reading some things, some information you

brought to me some time ago, that wasn't

clear to me. And I wanted to make sure as

we're looking at expediting, moving the

system as fast as we possibly can, it

seems to be part of the whole discussion,

but we've been doing that. I wanted to

ask that question.

And also, again, and I want my

colleagues that are Board members here

too, you know, opine on the issue for Dade

County, because I think every County has

their own VAB board, and everybody should

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kind of be within that structure.

MR. BLANCO: If I may.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So that's just

something I'm throwing out to my

colleagues.

And Chairman --

MR. BLANCO: Broward County used to

do that and they actually ran into some

trouble with the DOR. You're not allowed

to exclude people from other counties.

What you can do is make it a

requirement that they must have intimate

knowledge of the County and they have to

be working in this County.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Why is that?

Because we do boards for a lot of other

things, and we make it that --

MR. BLANCO: I don't know why the DOR

decided that, but there's a lot of

commuters. There's a lot of commuters. I

happen to live in Broward, but my office

is here in Dade County, in Coral Gables.

There's a lot of commuters that work here,

and have worked here all their lives. You

know, as long as they have knowledge of

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the County, I think that's the first and

foremost that's important.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: It's a state --

I mean, the state is going to look at it

from a state perspective. They're going

to say you can be anywhere from the state.

MR. BLANCO: You're licensed from the

state.

MR. GARCIA: You'll have the problem

with the USPAC. People have no knowledge

from Miami-Dade County, they shouldn't be

here.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And to the

point, it's a valid point. I mean, we

always try to push --

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: We do that.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: -- for local,

but I think the way it's structured, it's

not to do it that way, but to have

somebody that has intimate experience of

Miami-Dade County. And that will help.

Ms. Regalado.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: So really

quick, when we talk about residency

requirements, and I brought the same thing

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to the School Board, right, we talk about

committee membership and participation and

we have to have knowledge of the County.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And your

taxpayers, too.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

Exactly.

In this situation, we're talking

about employment, so it's a completely

different legal aspect, because now you're

talking about discriminating against

someone because of where they live for

employment, not for community

participation, so you have to bifurcate

those two things. They're two completely

different universes.

Now, within this legal universe of

employment, you cannot not employ someone,

because they live in a separate county,

but you can use where they live as a

preference for ranking of your selection.

MR. BLANCO: Correct.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You can.

And that's really the solution to the

problem.

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You can't say you can't be a

magistrate, because you live in Broward,

but you can say there is a preference for

magistrates that live in Miami-Dade

County.

Two separate things, because should

you not have enough magistrates in

Miami-Dade County, you could always look

to one outside.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Ms. Regalado

improved what I said, and actually made it

a little bit better. So I appreciate her

improvement as a good attorney, you know,

that works.

My goal is that -- I guess our goal

is that the maximum allowable knowledge to

help the citizens --

MR. BLANCO: Correct.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: -- in this

process be from the same people that live

within their area and for that knowledge

purposes as stated.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: And I

think to sort of piggyback with what Pedro

was saying, you know, with the USPAC, I

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think as we look at -- we're going to look

at the application in a few minutes. If

we want to add something to the

application, you're compliant, but I think

we should drill down a little bit more

there and say, are you a resident of

Miami-Dade County and how much work have

you done, you know, in Miami-Dade County,

the percentage of the workload is in

Miami-Dade County. And that could be a

consideration when we, as a Board, decide

on employment. And that is not

discrimination.

MR. BLANCO: Correct.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's

just a consideration.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I'm in support of

that, because in no part and in no way is

this Board looking to discriminate against

anyone.

MR. BLANCO: Got you.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And you're

going to be moving to Dade County. Is

that what you said?

MR. BLANCO: Excuse me?

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You're going to

be moving to Dade County?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: You heard that.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: His house is up

for sale.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: As soon

as they get a new mayor.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Wow! Nobody's

touching that one. Nobody's touching that

one.

All right, next item, Mr. Chairman.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So, Mr.

Jardack.

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: If I may, Mr.

Chair.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER MR. JARDACK: For the

sake of timeliness of participation and

activity of the magistrates, I requested

three items from Mr. Alfaro and he

supplied me some information, but it has

not been completed to make an analysis, to

do it in a mathematical way.

I have some numbers, but I requested

basically a total number of cases appealed

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for the year 2014, classified as

commercial, residential and others, number

of magistrates and the number of cases

handled by them, how many days each

magistrate work each month on the -- or

the entire year, number of appraisals and

the number of cases handled by them, how

many appraisals worked each month or the

entire year.

I think he supplied me with some

important information, but it's not

complete, because I wanted to have it

classified by residential, commercial,

industrial, vacant lot, just to give a

fair productivity on the number of cases

that each magistrate has handled

throughout the year, and how many he's

handled, and by the hours, or by the day

or by the month.

That way we can have some -- reach to

some formula where, if you have -- for

example, you have 65,000 cases, of which

56,000 has been certified, but to break

down these, I'm waiting for Mr. Alfaro to

give me the remaining information. We can

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come to a formula to see how many

magistrates are working on how many

commercial properties and how many

magistrates work on how many residential.

Then we can divide these cases by the

classified information that we have. Then

we can come to a conclusion, if we're

going to need overtime, or if we're going

to need an extra magistrate to cover

these, so it will be filed in time.

So I think I'll leave this until I

get the rest of the information.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So you

requested this information that we have

here, right?

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Right.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So you're

saying there's something missing, some

information missing?

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Yes, this is

for 2013. They don't have 2014.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So let's deal

with Item IV. We say we're going to talk

about the condensed boards, and the

policies and the actions we want for

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condensed boards, so let's take that on.

And then I think the information you

requested was for Item V, right?

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Right.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: To kind of look

at the productivity and create a process.

Let's handle IV. Ms. Regalado.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: So good

job. Just as a point of clarification,

right, this will be included in what we

want to establish as our procedures. So

we need a basic definition for what the

single board is, you referred to it, but

the idea is to have sort of a definition

of what a single board is.

MR. BLANCO: Single agent is what you

mean.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes,

single agent board.

MR. BLANCO: One agent the whole day.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I know

it's basic. You need that definition in

order to distinguish the condensed board.

When you explain the condensed board,

I think the language is fine. The only

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thing that you need a little bit more

clarification on what exactly is the

opt-in process. Is that a written

process? Is that a verbal process? You

know, when you opt in to use a condensed

board, how do you do that?

I know that you've just been talking

about it with the agents.

MR. BLANCO: Right.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: But do

you want an actual document? Is there

going to be some procedures to opt in or

is it simply going to be --

MR. BLANCO: It's just been

requested. They just requested.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Do they

request it? Do you suggest it? You know

what I'm saying?

MR. BLANCO: We don't suggest

anything. They come in. They opt into

it.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Does it say

anywhere how that opt-in process comes in?

MR. BLANCO: No.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I think

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that's my point.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That's her

point. We need to explain.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: How you

opt in? The idea somebody is going to

pull this up, they're going to see the

difference and they're going to be able to

understand the difference in how to opt

in.

I think the explanation of the time

is good. The explanation of the payment

is fine.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: If I can, I was

just reading along, and what she was just

specifying is, we had two agents that

opted in.

MR. BLANCO: Correct.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So there must be

some kind of a process.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: They just

asked.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's it?

MR. BLANCO: Yes, and then they

coordinate with the property appraisal.

It's been offered to everybody.

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We've had meetings and it's been offered

to a whole lot of them.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You need

to formalize it.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I got it.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And let me

share something.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: When I saw this,

this is why it threw me.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me tell you

why this is important. I don't know what

the legislation is going to end up doing

with the VABs.

MR. BLANCO: I don't either.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You know, and I

spoke with representative Avila, and, you

know, he doesn't know either.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Yeah, I know.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: He has certain

things he wants to push for and do. So I

think it's very important for us to create

a structure. So whoever ends up --

whatever the structure is in the future,

whether it's an all-citizens board, or

what's the level of participation of the

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VAB, that there are some structures in

place that are clearly defined for anybody

who comes into this process and needs to

govern this process. So that's what we're

trying to now do.

So, Mr. Blanco, when you do these

things, I know just because of practice,

you know what an opt in is, but unless you

go through the process, you don't know

what an opt-in process looks like, so I

think we need to fill in those gaps.

MR. BLANCO: Okay.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think that's

going to be important moving forward to

have a clearly defined process, to have

definitions for some of these things, so

the opt in is a good point.

As we think all the things that we

do, and all the process that you have to

complete this whole process and this whole

function that we kind of fill in those

blanks and we put it on paper, so it's

real clear for anybody.

So somebody who has no idea about the

VAB is somehow appointed to this Board,

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they can see and read step by step how

this whole process works.

I think for future -- preparing us

for whatever future may bring, you know, I

think it's a prudent thing to do.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Ms. Regalado.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I would

only add -- I totally agree with Juan, and

we'll get into it a little bit more.

Another thing that you should

consider is, as we establish our internal

procedures and policies, you know, the

establishment of those and the voting of

this Board on those protects those from

whatever change may come from Tallahassee.

You have the legal opportunity

after-the-fact to say we have established

procedure.

Now, a mode in practice, you know,

something that you do, that is not

protectable by law, but if we, as a Board,

had already decided on particular

procedures and that is somehow attacked,

then you can say, well, you know, we want

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an exception to the rule, this is how we

do things here and we can show, right,

that that is legally protected.

So that's why I keep pushing you on

sort of the process and the procedure,

because as Juan was saying, we don't know

what's going to happen. And I want to

ensure that whatever we're doing, we can

continue doing, right, without having

Tallahassee sort of dictate what they

believe is the best practice for this VAB.

MR. SOLIS: Mr. Chair, if I may.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes, Lazaro.

MR. SOLIS: Maybe a recommendation

the Board can take up is, to instruct the

VAB attorney to come up with a form that

mirrors what his recommendation is on the

memorandum, just basically outlines what

those procedures are, the definitions,

whatever. That way the Board does not

have to reconvene to adopt a form, but in

essence the form takes on the wording or

the suggestions that are here. And then

you can also decide as Board members what

you want to change or add to that form.

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So a simple form could just be the

agent and/or party that's agreeing to

these condensed boards, what the

definitions are and what they are

accepting as part of the condition

participating in these condensed boards.

And that way the VAB attorney can just

create the form and then moving forward

can execute those agreements with the

participants.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I don't

have a problem with that, but legally it's

not as solid.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Legally

-- I mean, I understand your point, but

legally what you want to do is, you want

to have our VAB attorney provide us with a

procedure and this Board take a vote on

that procedure. That is what will give it

some protection.

A form is not going to have the same

type of protection, because it's going to

seem -- it is under his office and not

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constitutional authority that needs to

be --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What we're

talking about is two different things:

One is policies and procedures of this

Board.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What has been

done in practice becomes now -- we have

something on paper. So I think that's

important, because I doubt that

Tallahassee is going to get into that. As

long as we don't run afoul of DOR and the

state statutes governing this, I think

we're fine, but we need to have something

on paper that the Board has approved.

That at least gives a starting point

so whatever -- if the Board gets

reconstituted and how does that -- they'll

have a starting point from which to work

off of. Not this kind of, you know, gray

area that we have where things are done by

practice, but not necessarily by policy.

So we establish a policy. I don't

have a problem with the form. I think

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it's a good suggestion. Having a form

which kind of translates the policy in a

form, I think makes sense. It solidifies

the policy.

Commissioner Diaz.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Thank you.

And I just was reading along some of

this. When you're looking at these

magistrates coming in, I think the part we

said before should be applicable then,

too, to No. 2. Find a way of rewording

and dealing with that as to we made a

motion on it before.

On the other issue, how many days a

week do magistrates usually work?

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me

interrupt you for a second. Are you

dealing with the productivity component on

V?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I thought we read

on all.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We have

to finish this.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let's finish

IV.

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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I thought we went

through all of them.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, we're on

Item IV, definition of condensed boards.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I thought this

was part of condensed boards.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, I think it

deals with condensed boards, but you're

talking about Item V?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I'm talking about

what was just presented. I'm talking

about what Mr. Blanco presented us, the

memorandum, value adjustment boards on the

condensed boards themselves. And that's

why I asked you about upping and so on,

which got cleared, the 50 to 60 cases they

deal with.

MR. BLANCO: And your question was,

how many do they typically do? One a

week.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So they work one

day a week.

MR. BLANCO: Typically. Sometimes

you can have a magistrate come in twice a

week, but typically it's once a week.

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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Is that something

when there's a major caseload that is

upped, or to twice or three?

MR. BLANCO: It could be two or three

times. When we're in a rush, that's

exactly what winds up happening, some

magistrates wind up serving multiple times

in a week, I'd say.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: If you're doing

condensed boards and you're trying to deal

with expediting and moving faster, you

know, when I saw the once a week that kind

of was --

MR. BLANCO: Typically most

magistrates are once a week.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And it's then

subject -- but it doesn't say it anywhere,

subject to caseload, where you could

improve those days and adding on more

days, who decides that?

MR. BLANCO: You ask the different

magistrates. You know, you have the

clerk's office call the magistrates, "Are

you available"?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It would be under

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MR. ALFARO: If the magistrates are

available more than one day a week, we'll

go ahead and schedule them.

MR. BLANCO: Correct.

MR. ALFARO: If we need to.

MR. BLANCO: Because most are

self-employed.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It says

magistrate should be available to make

sure he or she -- no, here it is.

Magistrates should be available when

solicited on any day of the working week,

at least once a week.

So "should" is command word, so

basically -- I'm trying to do your part

here.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I'm happy

to do it. I already tore it apart.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: The issue is --

MR. BLANCO: This is something I came

up with. You're welcome to --

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's something

good. We have something to go on. I

appreciate that it's being done.

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I just want to make sure that when

we're talking about expediting, I know

that Pedro put in a lot last time and also

Lazaro, to try to expedite and move this

along. And when I saw this once a week,

that's what kind of threw me off.

So you have the discretion of

increasing the workload --

MR. BLANCO: At least once a week.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: -- based on it.

So I just -- there's a reason I saw it off

a little bit, but okay.

So, basically, you would call it

based on the workload?

MR. BLANCO: Correct.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I just

have a few quick questions, if I could,

Mr. Chair.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Go ahead.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: On the

second page, magistrate should have a

minimum two years' experience. Are we

going to say that that is continuous? Is

it two years back to back or is it two

years sporadically?

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MR. BLANCO: We're talking about the

condensed boards.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right,

we're talking about the condensed boards.

MR. BLANCO: At least two years'

experience I think is necessary.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Back to

back or two years like you have someone

who did it a year?

MR. BLANCO: If you want it back to

back, however, you want to word it.

Again, this is something I threw out for

discussion.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right, I

think back to back make sense, two years

back to back makes it a lot easier. You

don't want to go 15 years ago, I had a

year, then in Cabo six months, you know,

and then --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What number is

that? What is the amendment?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Number 1.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Number 1B?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes,

continuous two years' experience.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Would be a

continuous two-years' experience?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Remove minimum,

take out minimum?

MR. BLANCO: Take out minimum?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: No, it

would be minimum two years' experience.

MR. BLANCO: Two years continuous.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: As

special magistrate.

"Number 2. A magistrate should

demonstrate good understanding of the

Miami-Dade County market."

How is that going to be determined?

What comprises a good understanding?

MR. BLANCO: Appraisal reports. The

appraisers doing the bulk of his work in

Miami-Dade County.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What is bulk?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

Is there a percentage? Is it a

percentage?

MR. BLANCO: There's not necessarily

a percentage. If you're doing a bunch of

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of -- most of your appraisals in Dade

County, I mean, you can --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So do we do

50%? Let's put a number on it again.

MR. BLANCO: 50%.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The idea

is to give it some weight, right? It's

all very amorphous.

So the question is, what is a good

understanding?

Do we believe that a demonstration of

a good understanding is 50% of your

workload in Miami-Dade County?

Do you believe that a good

understanding -- I mean, I'm asking you.

You're the one that works with them.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Is there

anybody here from the public who is one of

these bulk or, what is it you call it,

volume folks?

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Condensed.

MR. BLANCO: Both of them are here.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Have they seen

this?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: What do

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you think a good understanding is?

MR. AGUIRRE: We don't have it.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Can we get them

copies.

MR. BECK: It's subjective, because

if you have an appraiser --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Name and

address, please.

MR. BECK: Stan Beck, and presently

reside in Broward County.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Temporarily. I

think the word is temporarily residing in

Broward.

MR. BECK: Native Miamian and

graduate from Miami Senior High.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: There you

go. He's an honoree. He gets a pass.

MR. BECK: I think it has to be

subjective. I haven't thought it through,

but to add 50%, where an appraiser only

did two appraisals the whole year, but one

was in Dade County would not mean that he

had a good understanding. So it cannot --

I don't believe it could just be

arithmetic.

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It has to be substantial evidence of

knowledge and experience practicing on a

regular basis with more than simple

properties. They ought to have some

complex properties as well.

I mean, if you did 50 condos doesn't

mean that you're going to be able to

handle the Fontainebleau Hotel, so it's

very subjective.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So any

suggestions on criteria that we could put

in there that could strengthen this?

MR. BECK: Well, you have a VAB

attorney, who, himself, has been a special

magistrate for over 20 years and is an

attorney and an appraiser. So between

your VAB attorney and the manager of the

VAB, I think they have to use some

judgment and look at what they're

experiencing. And then if they have a lot

of complaints and instances where

magistrates don't finish on time and

things like that, that's the judgment.

You know, if you could compare it to

circuit court judges, you can't do an

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arithmetic evaluation of the competence of

anyone who's hearing disputed cases. I

think it requires subjective analysis.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I have a

suggestion.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Sure.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: And,

again, all procedure needs to have

definitions. That's what this is about,

you know. So the idea is to define terms.

And I understand your point, but I'm

trying to safeguard the process. And if I

leave it up to their judgment, Tallahassee

is going to define a process for me, so

just bear with me.

How's about we define good

understanding, right, the demonstration of

good understanding as a consideration of

percentage of work done in Miami-Dade

County, complexity of work done in

Miami-Dade County and timeliness? Those

would be your three factors that you would

then subjectively consider when

determining a good understanding.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That works.

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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's very

positive.

MR. PUYANIC: Larry Puyanic again.

You know, if you look at a magistrate

who's been serving for the Value

Adjustment Board for 10 or 15 years and

somebody who really has been around the

block here in Miami-Dade County, those

people, I believe, have demonstrated a

good understanding of the market. And if

they've been here for 15 years and they

don't have a lot of complaints, this is

something that should be a no-brainer.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But this is not

backward looking. This is forward

looking. So, obviously, if you have

somebody who's functioned well and doing a

good job, I don't think we're looking at

that.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We're looking

at it as we're bringing in new people in

the future.

Look at this a bit in the abstract.

We're talking about creating a process for

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the future. I mean, I think there's some

things you guys know is working, no need

to tamper with that, but as things change

and move forward, I mean, we want to kind

of--

MR. PUYANIC: When they open the pool

after some made complaints, some of the

magistrates weren't getting condensed

boards, when they're opening the pool to

some of the people who weren't doing it, I

found that if I had 50 cases in a

four-hour period to do, I might get 15 or

17 of them done and then the rest had to

be rescheduled because of that, but it

wasn't my fault that it dragged on. It

was a fault of having someone --

MR. BLANCO: And experience.

MR. PUYANIC: -- that didn't have --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's

further in the agenda. That's a few.

We're going to get there.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We're going to

get there.

So the suggestion, everybody okay

with that suggestion?

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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Well, actually I

wanted to add --

MR. APPEL: Experience.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: What was it you

said, that they have to have experience?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO:

Consideration of experience of work,

percentage of work in Miami-Dade County,

complexity of work, experience and

timeliness.

MR. GARCIA: USPAC, all the

appraisers have.

MR. BLANCO: If you're an appraiser,

if you're a licensed appraiser, you must

be USPAC compliant.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So we're there

already.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: We're there

already.

MR. BLANCO: Which is what I was

told.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I was just

following what was said earlier. I wanted

to be sure.

MR. BLANCO: You have to have

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knowledge or make yourself knowledgeable.

An appraiser -- how does an appraiser do

that? Hires another appraiser to help

him. In this case, you're acting as a

magistrate, so it's impossible to hire

another guy to help you out with it. You

have to be USPAC compliant, otherwise

you're risking your license.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's a given.

MR. BLANCO: That's a given.

MR. SOLIS: Can we make it part of

the consideration for the magistrate?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Later on

in the agenda.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's what I

said earlier. I thought we discussed

that.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's

when we get to the criteria.

Focus, people, focus.

"Three. Master the current computer

system."

How are you going to determine that?

I'm just saying. What does that mean?

MR. BLANCO: If you have been

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practicing for two years, if you have been

doing it for two years, you're pretty

good. Up to like six months, you've

already kind of learned the system anyway.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's going to

change anyway. If you --

MR. BLANCO: In other words, if you

can't master the computer system, you're

not going to be able to finish the

condensed board.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: My point

is, how do you gauge that? Is it that

input is too slow? I would think input is

too slow.

MR. BLANCO: If they don't complete

their cases, I don't believe they've

mastered the computer system.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But you would

know who has mastered it or not.

MR. BLANCO: Yeah.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Then that's

fine. That one I think is fine.

MR. BLANCO: I know could handle it

and who can't.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: V.

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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: IV.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: IV.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: This is the

question.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The

property should be similar as possible. I

don't know if you want to make the

distinction there between commercial and

residential. I would tell you to be a

little bit more specific on V.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We're on IV.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: IV is

fine.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: This is the

question I asked you earlier, so I just

wanted to make sure.

MR. BLANCO: IV is what you're

talking about or V.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: IV. We're on

IV. Is everybody okay?

MR. BLANCO: Yes.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Everybody good

with IV.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: At least once a

week.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: He said it

could be more.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It could always

be more. It's your call.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay, V.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: V. I

think is an opportunity to explain the

different types of properties, just an

enumeration.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You mean to

clarify it.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yeah,

yeah, just to clarify, you know,

properties scheduled should be as similar

as possible. I think you need to explain

that, you know. Are we talking about

you're going to lump --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Similar by

geography.

MR. BLANCO: Typically, what you're

doing residential when the clerk calls

you, hey, you're listening to residential

today.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Why don't you

clarify?

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BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The point

is, if that's a hard rule where we're

doing a condensed for today just

residential or we're doing condensed for

commercial.

MR. BLANCO: You run into the problem

towards the end of the year where you have

the mixed boards, basically, where there's

a hodgepodge.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It

doesn't say that. It just says for the

most part, it's going to be just

residential, or just commercial. However,

there's existing the possibility at the

end of the year, you know, in order to

comply with timeliness that there may be a

mix of the two. That explains it.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Do you guys

incorporate geography?

MR. BLANCO: Yes, that's homogenous

market areas.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Say that then,

say homogenous market area, residential,

commercial. And then give yourselves --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Give

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yourself the wiggle room at the end.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: To do the mixed

boards at the end.

MR. SOLIS: Typically, when we get to

that point, we stop the condensed boards,

because it's not --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: A

condensed board anymore.

MR. BLANCO: It can't be done.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So a mixed

board can't be a condensed board.

MR. SOLIS: Should not be. It could

be, but it's not going to be very

condensed.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Do you want to

give yourself an out or not? And that's

the thing. And you can say, you know,

and, you know, it could, you know, have a

mixed board at the end. You can add that

there. I'm not telling you that you have

to do it, but, look, again, we're trying

to create -- so the policy here is, if

you're going to have a condensed board

that's mixed, then you got to give

yourself the option and then you can

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establish the criteria for that option.

MR. SOLIS: But I think you have the

option here, because it says you should

be, not must be. The should be implies

this is what we're shooting for, but you

may have situations where you might get,

let's say, 10 residential, the rest are

commercial.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think we have

a good starting point. You're going to

make some fixes. Bring it back up before

us so we can give it one final look, but I

think this is a good start.

MR. BLANCO: As soon as I read the

transcript, because there's a lot thrown

in here.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I took

notes. I'll email. We'll go back and

forth.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Take notes.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I would

just add one thing, Commissioner.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Pedro, did you

want to say something?

MR. GARCIA: No.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I'm sorry. Go

ahead.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Earlier

we talked about definition of a single

board. You know, and then obviously we're

working on a definition of a condensed

board.

MR. BLANCO: It's not a single board.

It's a single agent board.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Single

agent. Do you understand, use terminology

to not confuse people.

You know, maybe you want to add a

third option of a mixed board and say what

that is, that that may happen at the end,

you know, for purposes of complying with

timeliness and just to give yourself a

definition.

MR. SOLIS: That just falls --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It's a

catchall.

MR. SOLIS: That falls into

traditional board.

MR. BLANCO: We normally were told as

magistrates -- when I was a magistrate,

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I'd get a call, Manny, Wednesday, at such

and such time, it's going to be

residential boards, or it's going to be

commercial boards or it's going to be

mixed commercial/residential. They'll

always give you kind of an idea.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Let me ask you

straight out, how many boards are there?

How many types of boards could there be?

MR. BLANCO: How many types of

boards?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Uh-hum.

MR. BLANCO: You have industrial; you

have commercial; you have vacant land;

single-family; you got multifamily.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So all these

boards, when they fall into a category,

they can be put under a condensed, or a

traditional or what other types of boards?

MR. BLANCO: There's either

condensed.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Because

commercial falls under condensed.

MR. BLANCO: Yes.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It could be

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residential?

MR. BLANCO: All of them could.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So I think what

we're all saying is, we need to define

that, and put, you know, what could be

part of a condensed and what could not.

There's condensed, there's

traditional. And what was the other one

that was mentioned?

MR. SOLIS: Single agent.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Single agent. So

if we could just put them in some kind of

a scope.

MR. BLANCO: Just about everything

could be condensed.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And we're working

on something that the Chair brought up

earlier and also Regalado brought it up

earlier that we're working against the

state trying to define it for us.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And we need to

give them clarity and definition. I think

if you put it in a bracket system, and

then define what throws one to one side, I

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think it covers everything.

MR. BLANCO: And I think condensed

thing is unique to Dade County only.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Listen, even

more the reason.

MR. BLANCO: Because of the high

volume.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What you want

do is make sure you have something that's

been thought through and that it's clear.

And the fact that we have it and it works,

I think it is something that will protect

us moving forward.

Listen, I think it's a great start.

I think it just needs some fine tuning.

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Mr. Chairman, on

Items I and IV, change the word from

"should" to "shall".

MR. BLANCO: Where?

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Item I and IV.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I agree.

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Magistrate

"should" should be changed to "shall".

MR. BLANCO: Shall.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: More command.

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MR. BLANCO: Shall have. Okay.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Good point.

MR. BLANCO: That works.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I and IV.

MR. BLANCO: Shall.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Good catch.

Mr. Jardack, any comments you'd like

to add?

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: No, just

looking at the numbers here.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That's fine.

Anybody from the public have any

quick comment?

Name and address, please.

MS. WALINSKY: Wendy Walinsky

(phonetic), (inaudible).

I don't have the benefit of seeing

the memo that Manny presented. Are these

same rules going to apply to the single

agent boards as they are to the condensed

boards?

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I don't think

we've discussed that yet.

MR. BLANCO: We haven't discussed it

yet, but what I would assume -- what she's

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saying is, there's going to be -- we're

offering single agent board, but not --

that's not condensed. It's a full day.

But the benefit to that is, we they

don't have to be running from room to

room. They're going to be changing, you

know, waiting on somebody, etc, etc. It's

just one agent, one room all day.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Again,

going back to the establishment of

procedures, you know, Mr. Blanco, I think

you know, that you were tasked last

meeting with condensed boards, so I think

now we should task you with single agent,

so that you can come back. I mean, the

idea is to have something that's

comprehensive.

MR. BLANCO: Basically, it's the same

thing.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Again, I

just want to be make sure that we're very

clear what the procedure is. That it's

well vetted and that everyone understands

it, should something change in

Tallahassee, that we have that.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So we have, I

guess, this policy.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I think if we do

the bracket system, the way that we just

-- I think everything falls in place,

because you're defining -- her question

will be defined, because it will all be

bracketed into three different types of

boards, and then condensed or not

condensed, but what would it trigger,

either way. If I'm wrong, please tell me

now, because that's the way I thought

simplistically it would work.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: But I

think you should still have to have

defined terms.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's part of

it, what throws it into this level, what

throws it into this level, but, you know,

we have many different types of boards,

within single agent, condensed and

traditional. So if you put it in some

kind of like a graph form, with the

explanations, I think it will make it

simpler for everybody moving forward.

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BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The

Commissioner is a visual learner.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Absolutely.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So --

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's why I

never forget a face.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So do we have

to do a resolution to kind of adopt this?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: When it's

final.

MR. BLANCO: When it's final, I

think, because there's several changes

that you've requested.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Then we'll do

that.

MR. BLANCO: At our next meeting, if

we meet in October, whenever you guys want

to meet.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: October?

June. You're killing me. We have to get

this done.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We'll have a

meeting before October.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Not during the

break.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So if anybody

from the public, if anybody, from anybody,

you know, has an issue, bring it up with

Mr. Blanco so that he can continue to fine

tune this policy.

MR. BLANCO: Raquel, I'll get

together with you.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We'll go

through it.

MR. BLANCO: Because I know that

you've already offered yourself.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Mr. Blanco,

take good notes.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Well, we have

somebody really good.

MR. BLANCO: Well, we'll have the

transcript. And I even have the

transcript from the last hearing

(indicating).

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I thought we

talked more.

So we're good on Item IV.

We're on Item V. Mr. Jardack, you

wanted to --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We didn't

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do incentives for magistrates. We just

did definition of the condensed board.

Okay, so incentive for magistrates,

right? Let's go back to the idea of

creating some kind of hierarchy.

What we talked about at the last

meeting is, you know, we want to provide

some benefit to participating in the

condensed boards. We talked a little bit

about shadowing, you know, and that we

would like magistrates to have less

experience to shadow magistrates that have

more experience, that we would consider

some sort of change in the pay rate.

You know, at the same time, we also

want experienced people to be in the

single boards. How are we going to work

that?

MR. BLANCO: I don't know how that's

going to work.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: How is that going

to become discriminatory?

MR. BLANCO: The contract is $700 for

a day.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's a flat fee.

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MR. BLANCO: It's a flat fee.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Can we

establish some sort of rotation to ensure

-- I mean, you can have, because the

idea is --

MR. BLANCO: It's already in the

rotation system, which is part of the

problem, because some of the more

experienced ones can handle like these

quote, unquote condensed boards, whereas

the lesser experienced, the newcomers, et

cetera, I mean, all you do is schedule and

reschedule.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: You don't want

to --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right,

but that was to his point. I mean, now we

get into, you know, who knows what.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We discussed

creating two pools?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right,

two pools.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: If I recall.

MR. BLANCO: Right, that's what we

discussed.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: One pool would

be the more experienced pool, blind pool.

MR. BLANCO: Which is the majority of

them, by the way. It's a large enough

pool that it's not discriminatory.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Is there a way

to create policy on that or is it better

left to your discretion?

MR. BLANCO: The Board pretty much

left it to our discretion at our last

meeting.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: When we

talk about incentives -- sorry to

interrupt -- you know, we were talking

about changing the pay.

Our whole point last meeting was that

there is no true incentive to

participating in a rapid fire sort of

condensed board.

MR. BLANCO: There is a good

incentive. For me, for instance, I'm not

an early riser. I rather, you know, come

to the office a little later.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You have

a ride. It takes you a lot longer to get

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MR. BLANCO: You're right, I'd rather

leave a little later. That was an

incentive. I used to love to come to the

afternoon board meetings. Some of the

magistrates prefer the morning. They're

done by 12 o'clock. I think that's a

great incentive.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's a flat fee?

I'm sorry to interrupt.

MR. BLANCO: Whether you're done by

12 or you're done or by 5 o'clock.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Lets do this.

Can you talk to some of them, see if

anybody has any ideas, any suggestions?

MR. BLANCO: Sure. We've had general

meetings with all the magistrates.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Have that

conversation. I think that's an item we

can bring back. I don't see that as a

pressing item, but I think we need to kind

of poll some of these folks.

MR. BLANCO: I will.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And the

discussion from last time, where he says

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the experience overlaps that whole

process, if you have the experience,

you're going to be done by noon.

MR. BLANCO: You're going to be done

quickly.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And you're done,

but will get experience, will eventually

make it there. And that's what you said

last time.

MR. BLANCO: Right, if consider on an

hourly basis, you finish eight hours in

four hours, you just made double the hour,

you know.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So let's keep

looking into that. I think it's something

worth considering.

Then on Item V, let's -- because this

one has a lot of moving parts.

MR. BLANCO: Yes, that was kind of

incorporated into IV earlier.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So I know the

numbers, Mr. Jardack, you wanted more

numbers.

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: This is what

I'm working with Mr. Alfaro.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Make sure what

you're asking him. I think we had a

discussion. He had a question on looking

at the numbers to creating a more

productive discussion.

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: From previous

discussion, you have 38 magistrates. They

work once a week. If you multiply that by

52 weeks, you have 1,976 weeks. So if you

divide 56,000 by the number of weeks

worked, each magistrate has 28 cases. So

28 cases, but that is not classified. So

it cannot really read it the average

amount like that. That's what I asked him

to do.

MR. BLANCO: Some do a lot more

cases, some do a lot less.

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Then also part

of the productivity and the incentive is

the rehiring for the magistrates that have

accomplished more than others.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So it's

creating kind of a productivity kind of

formula. So you're going to work with him

on that and just come back to us?

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MR. ALFARO: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Yes.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Anybody have

any other comments on this productivity?

We have to be very sensitive how we

do all this stuff.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Chairman, I

have to leave. I have a prior engagement

I have to be at.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Do you have any

comments on any of the other items?

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Before I leave,

basically, we can go on this last item, I

just want to make sure that the allowance

and everything, the audits and so on, I

think we left it last time to make sure

legally.

MR. BLANCO: Right.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I don't want

people that sit on this Board here that

are trying to do the right thing get into

any kind of issues due to the subject at

hand. And, you know, when I was first

started, I did not understand that.

So moving forward, just clarity and

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the transparency of the process is I think

very important to keep that independence

of this Board. So I think you understand

where I'm at on it.

MR. BLANCO: Yes, sir.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: The last issue

that I have is that, instead of taking

longer, you know, we're pretty much now

very vested into all these issues.

And my friend Hani has basically

asked for a lot of the key things that we

get the information. And the sooner we

get this information, the easier it is to

kind of wrap this up. And the faster we

wrap this up, the better it will be to be

with Tallahassee, as stated before,

because they're about to make decisions.

If we're very clear in sending an

outline, and a graph and everything else

to make it simple -- and, yes, I'm a very

visual person, okay -- it will only help

this whole Board move forward.

And as the Chairman said, this is not

about looking back, it's about looking

forward now and making sure that people

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that will follow us will have a clear

process in all of this.

So with that, I just prefer sooner

than later, so we can finish and then do

as the Chairman said.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Do you

think you can do 30 days?

MR. BLANCO: Thirty days?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes, our

next meeting in 30 days.

MR. BLANCO: You want to have another

one in 30 days?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I would

have it in 15 to finish it up. I'm just

giving you 30.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I'm in the same

mode.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let's do it

before July.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: We're looking

at --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: They're

going to be meeting.

COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I've talked to

the representative. And they honestly, I

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really think they need guidance as to

where we're at, because they're right now

going to give us the guidance and it might

not be the guidance that we're looking

for.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And I think the

bottom line, the discussion next year in

the legislature, the fact is that we'll

have more clarity, things in order, that

will help us with our credibility, and

since we've kind of been the one with the

greatest amount of issues.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That

we've been provided.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Also helps the

discussion moving forward.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We just

want to demonstrate that we've been

proactive, and this is what we've done. I

think the sooner we do that, the better.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Absolutely.

So besides scheduling that meeting

before July --

MR. ALFARO: You said before July,

sir?

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MR. BLANCO: Before the 4th of July

vacation, basically.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We'll have it

in your honor at 7:30 a.m., my suggestion

to those folks who are not morning risers.

MR. BLANCO: It's easier to get here

at 7:30.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: All right. So

are we good in Item V?

Let's move on.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It's

going to come back to us, right?

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Correct, yes.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: So right

now IV and V are going to come back.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Mr. Jardack

would like to see more numbers. I think

he's right on point to try to understand

this a little bit better so we can

establish kind of standards. I think that

goes with the metric that we want to talk

on Item VII.

Let's move on to VI.

MR. BLANCO: "Item VI. Further

discussion on potential codification and

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allowance of 'School Board Audits' on

expenses only and actions taken regarding

legal opinion requested by the Board."

Okay, Mr. Chairman, I have reached

out to our DOR attorney, Mr. Steve Keller,

Esq., and there is no definitive answer to

this. He did, however, indicate to me

that in the absence of a state statute or

DOR regulation, that we may go ahead and

create our own, as long as there is no

conflict with any existing rule and/or

statutes currently on the books and it

does not interfere with the VAB process.

For example, it doesn't shift manpower

from this to the auditors like it did in

the last audit.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: If I

could speak to that.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Sure.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's

great. That's what I was expecting, so

I'm glad that he agreed with that

assessment.

I think that we'll resolve part of

this by having all the documents

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accessible. So once we get to that point,

where anybody can access them. Obviously

the school district can also access them.

So then really you'll be dealing with the

generation of specific, you know, data.

And that's very different than going

through piles and piles of documents.

So I think that, you know, what we're

working on right now will expedite it, you

know. And, again, you know, the idea is

to make it a lot easier to do an audit.

So --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: There

seems to be no movement on a contract.

Just so that you know, I brought an item

to the School Board that was approved by

the School Board entering into a contract

with Miami-Dade County for this process,

but there's just too many stakeholders.

But the whole reason for entering into a

contract was to trigger the audit.

So if we do it internally and just

allow it, it saves everybody a lot of

grief.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We need to take

action?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes, we

need to direct him to codify it.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That the School

Board can conduct audits on expenses?

MR. BLANCO: It's on the record

already.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Why I

want it as procedure.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Look, trust me,

up in Tallahassee, if we can show them a

little book of something, these are

policies and procedures.

And I'll tell you why, because I

guarantee you out of 60, 70 counties, very

few will actually have something like

that. And it's us to kind of, like,

stirred up the pot, it will help to show

this is how we operate. That way they

know what we're about. They'll know what

the VAB is about.

Listen, it's very important, I said

it in the last meeting, that this Board

operates for the benefit of the taxpayers.

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It needs to be clear. It needs to be

clear in that policy. It needs to be

clear in how we conduct things, how we

structure things.

You know, moving forward, the more we

do that, I think the better what we do

here will resonate up in Tallahassee, but

I'm telling you, having something, I know

it may seem just like extra work and all

that, it's an investment worth making in

the front end. I think it will pay

dividends in the back end.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: So we

take a vote on it. Can I vote on it?

MR. BLANCO: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Just to

be clear.

MR. BLANCO: You're part of the

Board. You're part of the quorum.

Without you, we don't have a quorum.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Without you,

we're voting it down just so you know.

It's going down.

It's moved, seconded by the Chair.

Any objection?

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Show that as adopted without

objection.

(Ms. Regalado moved it).

Okay, Item VII.

MR. BLANCO: "Item VII. Discussion

and action taken to establish metrics for

the determination of the Value Adjustment

Board's cost per case."

Mr. Alfaro, I believe you have a

preliminary report on this one, correct?

MR. ALFARO: Commissioner Zapata, I

handed you a cost analysis that I did for

the last 12 months. You should have it in

the packet there.

What I did was, I brought the last 12

months of expenses for the VAB, including

staffing and special magistrate's salaries

and everything included in our expenses,

and divided by the number of cases that we

have. And came up with a cost per case by

$33.

Broward County did a similar study

about four years ago and --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me ask you,

did you break this between residential,

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commercial?

MR. ALFARO: This is everything.

This is all the cases. This is

everything, including legal cases,

everything, because, you know, we schedule

special magistrates, whether it's legal,

attorney magistrates or appraisal

magistrates.

MR. BLANCO: All the same.

MR. ALFARO: Broward County, having a

total of 5,555 cases four years ago came

up with a $67.50 per case.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And it was --

we were all including all the same

expenses?

MR. ALFARO: Yes.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Did Broward

include all the expenses that we did?

MR. ALFARO: I don't know if they

did, but they might have gone to just

special magistrate's salaries. And at

that point, we only did that, and we came

up with $15 a case back then when we did

this.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Did they

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include the property appraiser's expenses?

Did we include any?

MR. SOLIS: I don't think, no.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I don't know

what other expenses there are.

MR. ALFARO: We don't include their

expenses.

MR. SOLIS: The only logical

conclusion there is, Manny, maybe I think

you did boards in Broward for a time, is I

think they hold more boards over -- and

they have a lot less cases per hearing.

MR. BLANCO: And it takes a lot

longer per board. For instance, one board

might have 15 to 20 cases for the whole

day.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Listen, I think

having those metrics and kind of getting a

good understanding is something good. I

mean, obviously if it shows that we're

efficient in that process, I think it's

good.

MR. SOLIS: The only thing I would

caution the Board, is there have been some

questions raised in terms of the quality,

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and that by putting more pressure on

expediting the process --

MR. BLANCO: Due process issues.

MR. SOLIS: So there has to be a

balance.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Would it make

sense to separate between the residential,

the commercial when calculating these

expenses?

MR. BLANCO: If you feel like doing

that for whatever reason to compare.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I mean, I just

think that two different approaches. I

mean, the residential is kind of, you

know, they have more of the same.

MR. BLANCO: They tend to have more

cases.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Why don't we

look at it just as an exercise to see if

we could separate them. Could that

possible? Is that doable?

MR. ALFARO: It comes out --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Does that make

a problem?

MR. ALFARO: The problem is the

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expenses that I showed you included the

special magistrate's salaries, which is

the bulk of the expenses probably.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay.

MR. ALFARO: And to be able to break

them down, it's probably going to be hard

to do that.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: It gets a

little tough.

MR. ALFARO: Yes, that's why I gave

you everything. If you need anything

else, we're forced to include it, I don't

know if we have anything else.

MR. SOLIS: We can give you our cost.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think Mr.

Solis makes a good point. You know, it's

good to understand the cost, but it's also

important to understand the quality.

And some of those complaints, have

they been on the residential side or have

they been on the commercial side?

MR. SOLIS: No, just overall the

process. There's been so much emphasis

over the last year or two to expedite and

efficient time that on a couple of

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occasions people have just kind of said be

cautious in trying to achieve the goal,

you may be sacrificing --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You trample

over some folks.

MR. SOLIS: Correct. In terms of the

cost, a lot of these magistrates have

mixed boards, so it's difficult to

distinguish between residential and

commercial, but if the Board also wishes

we can provide the cost that we incur as

part of our process.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think that

would be good to have, too, so get us

those numbers.

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Mr. Chair.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes.

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: And if you could

break out the magistrates for now on a per

case basis.

MR. ALFARO: I can provide you with a

salary on the magistrates. Yes, I can do

that. I can isolate that.

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: That concern is,

the cases drop dramatically. I'm sure

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that number is going to grow

significantly.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: The cost per

case you're talking about?

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Because the cases

are going to drop.

MR. ALFARO: I just did it just

magistrate salary, and it was probably

$15 -- a little less than $15 per case

came out to it.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think that's

a good point. I think moving forward,

kind of create a baseline that gives you

some idea of your cost over time.

MR. ALFARO: You want me to show

special magistrate salary as a

different --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: On a per case

basis, the cost of that on a per case

basis.

And then you guys are going to get us

-- Lazaro, you're going to get us your

cost.

Anything else we want to look at that

would be helpful?

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I mean, look, again, to the point of

Tallahassee, I mean, things that we can

show that we're running an efficient

operation and all that kind of stuff, you

know, as things start to change, we show

that, hey, we're monitoring this, we're

making sure I think the quality component

is important. I think that needs to be

addressed. I don't know if there's an

internal process that somehow, a survey, a

mechanism that you guys do, a feedback

mechanism that you guys do, so that

people, you know, feel that somehow

they're getting kind of trampled on a

little bit, so we can address that and

we're aware of that, I think would be

something that is helpful.

MR. APPEL: I appreciate Lazaro

making a point that justice and procedures

are sometimes not the most cost effective.

That's what Democracy is. And I think

it's important, and I appreciate Lazaro

saying that.

I think you can also look at -- I

know in Broward, I'm sure it's in other

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counties too, they're faced with constant

issues about fairness in some of those

hearings. You know, in go forward with

recommendations and the like, they're much

farther behind us in terms of processing

cases. I bet the cost of their VAB

attorney is a lot more than us, for

example.

And that may be something I don't

think we get nearly as many requests for

reconsideration and issues down here,

which is a good thing.

Also, in terms of property

appraiser's cost per these, I'm a little

concerned, one, because, you know, Lazaro,

you know, Pedro, and, you know, some of

you guys, they do a lot of dual roles in a

way. You know, you're really not setup,

per se, to say somebody does purely VAB

cases, and somebody does purely

negotiating or purely land. It's a

challenge to do something like that, I

would think.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We'll give it a

stab, see what we can do.

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MR. APPEL: I think, in general, we

don't say, well, we're not going to

prosecute a criminal or someone who we

think is a criminal, because it's going to

cost too much, you know.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, I think

more than anything, it's to look at -- I

mean, I think the criticism that's been,

you know, the inefficiencies or whatever,

how do you find a balance between the

resources you're allocating and your

output and then the quality of that

output.

MR. APPEL: And the last thing, when

you say you're signing everything, I think

what you also would agree with, it may be

a lot of money that comes out, but I know

more of a few percentage points, which

means you get about 96. My daughter is in

North Beach Elementary, got a 96, she'll

be going to hopefully Harvard on a

scholarship and may end up in Coleman

(phonetic). I hope not.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Would you give

us your name and address.

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MR. APPEL: Gary Appeal, live in

Miami Beach, offices at 4770 Biscayne

Boulevard.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Anything else

on Item VII?

Thank you, by the way.

MR. PUYANIC: I do have one more

thing.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Well, hold on

for a second.

So now I'm going to open it up to

some folks who I know wanted to speak.

Did any Board member have anything

else on Number VII?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I have

something really quick to sort of wrap

this all up.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: On Item VII?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It

includes VII, just really quick, just tell

me if you agree.

I started putting together what we've

been talking about. There's a lot of

things that are coming back and I'm going

to help you. I'm not going to leave you

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all the extra work.

We were talking about sort of the

policies and procedures, so this is the

framework that I'm looking at.

Number 1, we'll do a general

description of what the VAB is and the

stakeholders, DOR rules, that type of

thing.

Number 2, then the policies and the

procedures of the Miami-Dade County VAB.

We'll get into the boards; we'll do the

definitions; we'll talk about how we think

magistrates, all that kind of good stuff.

Then they'll be a third section on

reporting, which, you know, goes to what

Mr. Alfaro was doing, you know, what is

our annual reporting and what is our

monthly reporting, right?

In the last three meetings, we've

established different types of monthly

reporting. I just need you to tell me

what that is, so that I can put it in

there. And that will be great for our

friends that are fiscally responsible in

Tallahassee.

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And then the fourth section will be

auditing. We just decided on an auditing

issue, so we'll mention the School Board.

And then finally public access and

documents, right? And that's where we're

sort of mentioning some of the IT stuff,

what we're doing with public documents,

what access people have. And then

whatever procedure we have, so that the

public can access VAB stuff.

Am I missing anything? Because I

think that puts everything together.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think the

feedback component.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: People have a

complaint, how a complaint would be

handled; if they have issues, who they

need to address. I mean, I think you put

in there who are the stakeholders here,

and who are the players and who ought to

contact them. I think that needs to be

part of that, too.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

So then, Alfaro, you're going to work

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with me on the reporting and the feedback.

You know, the clerk we talked about

it a bunch of times, the documents -- I'll

mention something. We talked about we'll

keep it simple, because we haven't gotten

there yet.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Is there like

an annual report that we compile or

something of some sort?

MR. ALFARO: As far as the expenses?

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, of what

we've done. I mean, you can kind of say

the expenses or what we've heard. So I

think --

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Other

reports, put them together.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That's part of

the reporting process. And I think what

you also probably want to include, that

report needs to be sent to the Dade

Delegation, we'll include that in there,

and the County Commission.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: And all

the stakeholders.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: The School

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Board, the County Commission and the Dade

Delegation. We'll put the Dade Delegation

first, the Commission, then the School

Board.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: All

right.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I hope nobody

gets offended.

MR. BLANCO: Item VIII.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So in VII,

we're all good then?

BOARD MEMBER REGALADO: Yes.

MR. PUYANIC: I just wanted to say --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I'm sorry?

MR. PUYANIC: I just wanted to say --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What is your

name again.

MR. PUYANIC: Larry Puyanic again.

Knowing the VAB's cost to prosecute a

case, it's kind of irrelevant unless you

have, you know, to compare it to. I mean,

I don't think the other VABs from the

other 67 counties are throwing out these

numbers. And, you know, in a lot of

counties I'm sure it's $100 to prosecute.

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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That's the

point.

MR. PUYANIC: Unless you have, it's

all relative.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But I think

it's good for us to, as a measuring stick

moving forward, and also the fact that

when they go up in Tallahassee and

somebody wants to defend them, we can say,

listen, we know what we're doing. And

they can challenge other legislators in

other parts of the state, challenge them

to be able to come up with the information

that we have.

So it's actually a tool that we could

use to kind of monitor, you know, our cost

and how things are going here. And then

also at the same time for folks who want

to defend the way we're doing things here

in Miami-Dade County.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You give

them tools.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You give them

tools and you give them numbers. The fact

their counties don't have numbers, but we

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do, you know, puts them on the defense.

Trust me, it's a good thing out there. We

need it.

So I have here Mr. Beck. I know you

wanted to speak.

MR. BECK: I have.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You have

spoken. Thank you very much. I

appreciate it.

Jack Schlosberg.

MR. SCHLOSBERG: No comment.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You're all

good? It must have been a good meeting.

And, Mr. Aguirre.

MR. AGUIRRE: Mr. Chair, I don't have

anything to add.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Man, you guys

must have done something good to keep you

guys so quiet.

Anybody else wishing to speak?

Anybody like to add anything else?

Appreciate your time, and your

feedback and your comments.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Before

July 4th, you're going to circulate dates

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on it?

MR. BLANCO: We have VIII, the last

one.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: She's going to

give you suggestions and you're going to

draft it.

MR. BLANCO: Yes, sir.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Just so we're

clear.

Anything else? All right, folks --

MR. ALFARO: Wait, VIII.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: VIII?

MR. BLANCO: VIII.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I thought we

were going to get away with that.

MR. ALFARO: You just asked that.

MR. BLANCO: "Approve and authorize

the publication of 2013 Tax Impact

Notice." And you all have --

MR. ALFARO: You have a copy.

MR. BLANCO: You have a copy of that,

I believe. It just takes a motion by the

Board.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Tax Impact

Notice.

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Is everybody good with this?

MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Yes, I move the

item.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Moved by Mr.

Duarte.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Oh, I was

going to ask a question.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I'll second it.

Question, Ms. Regalado.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yeah, no,

I mean, is there a differentiation between

what's done by the VAB, and what's done by

the property appraisers or is it all

lumped in together?

MR. SOLIS: It's separate.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Separate,

right, yeah.

MR. SOLIS: We have a separate

certification.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You have

a separate one. Okay. Right. No, I was

just wondering.

MR. ALFARO: That's strictly a

special magistrate's recommendations.

What you see on the tax impact notice is a

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summary of every case that came to a

hearing, and reductions and denials.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.

No, I understand.

My point was, it isn't a complete

picture, because you guys are doing stuff

on your end, too.

MR. GARCIA: Exactly.

MR. ALFARO: The only thing we show

on the tax impact statement is the number

of cases that were withdrawn or settled

with the property appraiser, but not

impact.

MR. SOLIS: We're certifying this

Friday.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: This

Friday.

In the future, can that be an

attachment to this?

MR. SOLIS: You can't.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Because

that would make more sense.

MR. SOLIS: I'm sorry, with all due

respect, the state requires the VAB

certifies first and then after the

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property appraiser.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Oh, okay.

All right.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Can't do it at

the same time?

MR. SOLIS: Our public information is

advertised. We would be more than happy

to pass along to the Board members our

final certification. The School Board

gets a letter. All tax authorities get a

letter.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right,

I've seen the letter. I guess my point

is, for public acces, I'm talking about if

someone were to pull this up, you're

missing a document.

MR. SOLIS: We are required by the

law to go through the same advertisement.

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's

fine. That was my only question.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Any other

questions, comments?

Name and address.

MR. AGUIRRE: Mr. Chair, I do have.

Alejandro Aguirre, 7504 Southwest 78

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Terrace, Miami, Florida.

At some point do these documents that

you're speaking about become public?

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: It should all

be public.

MR. AGUIRRE: And how would we --

MR. ALFARO: This is published in the

newspaper, in the Miami Herald, in a

couple of weeks.

MR. AGUIRRE: From now?

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Are you talking

about the other documents?

MR. AGUIRRE: Well, I was thinking

about this one, but I was talking about in

general, because we listen to some of the

conversation --

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And we need to

do a better job in the next meeting of

getting this information to the Board

members beforehand.

MR. BLANCO: Three days beforehand.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And let's make

sure we have copies for folks in the

public who also want to follow.

I had to have my aide to run out and

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make some copies, And I appreciate that,

but we should have copies for people who

want to kind of follow along of what we're

looking at.

MR. BLANCO: The only reason I didn't

do that is this was up for discussion.

COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But, still, I

think, you know, at the end of the day,

I'd rather us be very transparent.

Point well taken. Thank you very

much.

All right, folks, anything else?

BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I just

posted on Twitter.

(Thereupon, at 12:10 p.m., the

meeting was adjourned).

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

I, Lorena Ramos, Registered Professional

Reporter and Notary Public, do hereby certify

that I was authorized to and did report the

foregoing proceedings, the Value Adjustment

Board meeting of the 27th day of May 2015; and

that the transcript, pages 1 through 122, is a

true and correct record of my stenographic

notes.

DATED this 8th day of June 2015, at

Miami-Dade County, Florida.

_____________________________

LORENA RAMOS, RPR

COURT REPORTER

Lorena Ramos

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60:24, 61:3, 61:7,

61:10, 61:21, 62:6,

62:25, 63:16, 65:4,

65:7, 66:20, 67:19,

68:6, 69:13, 69:18,

70:11, 71:2, 71:5,

71:12, 72:6, 72:12,

73:1, 73:10, 73:25,

74:7, 75:17, 75:21,

76:3, 76:10, 76:20,

78:21, 79:21, 80:9,

81:9, 81:20, 82:14,

83:1, 83:9, 83:19,

84:8, 84:25, 86:2,

86:16, 86:21, 87:12,

87:24, 89:24, 90:6,

90:18, 91:2, 93:6,

93:9, 93:13, 93:22,

94:13, 94:17, 95:11,

95:14, 96:17, 96:20,

97:14, 98:3, 98:9,

99:13, 99:16,

110:15, 110:19,

112:15, 112:24,

113:15, 113:23,

114:5, 114:12,

115:21, 116:24,

118:6, 118:10,

118:16, 118:20,

119:3, 119:16,

119:21, 120:2,

120:12, 120:19,

122:13

Board [64] - 1:12,

2:19, 2:20, 2:24, 3:2,

3:7, 3:9, 3:17, 4:3,

4:14, 5:3, 5:8, 5:11,

7:18, 11:13, 15:12,

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24:18, 26:12, 27:12,

27:22, 28:1, 31:22,

32:8, 33:7, 33:25,

35:4, 35:25, 37:22,

40:1, 42:11, 42:19,

50:25, 51:15, 51:22,

52:15, 52:20, 52:24,

53:20, 54:6, 54:16,

54:18, 66:6, 87:9,

91:20, 92:3, 92:22,

96:1, 96:3, 97:17,

97:18, 98:6, 98:24,

99:19, 102:24,

105:10, 110:13,

112:3, 114:1, 114:4,

117:23, 120:8,

120:9, 121:19, 123:9

Board's [1] - 100:8

Boards [2] - 2:12, 2:13

boards [40] - 31:18,

31:20, 32:1, 34:8,

38:16, 45:24, 46:1,

53:3, 53:6, 56:4,

56:6, 56:8, 56:13,

56:14, 57:10, 60:2,

60:4, 67:9, 73:8,

74:3, 74:5, 77:3,

77:4, 77:8, 77:9,

77:11, 77:17, 77:19,

80:20, 80:21, 81:13,

82:9, 82:20, 85:9,

85:17, 86:10,

102:10, 102:11,

105:8, 111:11

bolts [1] - 16:15

book [1] - 98:13

books [1] - 96:12

bottom [1] - 94:7

Boulevard [1] - 110:3

bracket [2] - 78:24,

82:4

bracketed [1] - 82:8

brainer [1] - 66:13

breach [1] - 24:8

break [5] - 44:23,

83:25, 100:25,

104:5, 105:19

breaking [1] - 20:9

bring [6] - 16:9, 26:11,

51:4, 75:11, 84:3,

88:20

bringing [3] - 15:11,

20:17, 66:22

brings [1] - 19:19

brought [8] - 11:13,

15:7, 37:14, 39:25,

78:17, 78:18, 97:16,

100:15

Broward [10] - 38:7,

38:21, 41:2, 63:10,

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63:13, 100:22,

101:10, 101:17,

102:10, 107:25

Budget [1] - 26:9

budget [8] - 27:16,

27:17, 27:18, 28:13,

28:17, 29:4, 29:9,

30:5

bulk [4] - 61:18, 61:20,

62:19, 104:3

bunch [2] - 61:25,

113:3

business [2] - 2:23,

21:21

C

Cabo [1] - 60:18

calculating [1] - 103:8

cannot [3] - 40:18,

63:23, 90:13

care [2] - 20:13, 31:12

carried [1] - 13:14

case [14] - 2:22, 29:17,

69:4, 100:8, 100:20,

101:12, 101:23,

105:20, 106:4,

106:9, 106:18,

106:19, 114:20,

119:1

caseload [2] - 57:2,

57:18

cases [29] - 5:7, 10:14,

37:1, 37:9, 43:25,

44:3, 44:7, 44:15,

44:22, 45:5, 56:16,

65:2, 67:11, 70:16,

90:11, 90:12, 90:17,

100:19, 101:3,

101:4, 101:11,

102:12, 102:15,

103:17, 105:25,

106:5, 108:6,

108:20, 119:11

catch [1] - 80:6

catchall [1] - 76:21

category [1] - 77:17

caution [1] - 102:24

cautious [1] - 105:2

certain [1] - 49:19

CERTIFICATE [1] -

123:2

certificate [1] - 6:15

certification [6] - 2:5,

3:13, 4:1, 6:4,

118:19, 120:9

certified [3] - 2:6, 6:6,

44:23

certifies [1] - 119:25

certify [1] - 123:6

certifying [1] - 119:14

cetera [3] - 32:19,

86:12

Chair [13] - 3:1, 15:17,

23:9, 31:21, 32:21,

43:15, 52:12, 59:18,

78:17, 99:24,

105:16, 116:15,

120:24

chair [1] - 13:20

Chairman [16] - 1:11,

3:8, 5:6, 5:21, 7:12,

18:24, 19:18, 20:17,

25:20, 38:6, 43:11,

79:16, 91:7, 92:23,

93:5, 96:4

CHAIRMAN [1] - 5:22

challenge [3] -

108:22, 115:11,

115:12

change [12] - 10:25,

20:4, 20:9, 33:16,

51:16, 52:25, 67:3,

70:6, 79:17, 81:24,

85:14, 107:5

changed [1] - 79:23

changes [1] - 83:12

changing [2] - 81:6,

87:15

charged [1] - 27:21

check [2] - 23:10, 29:8

circuit [10] - 35:9,

35:18, 35:19, 35:23,

36:9, 36:18, 36:25,

37:3, 37:10, 64:25

circulate [1] - 116:25

citizen [2] - 3:11, 35:5

citizens [2] - 41:17,

49:24

clarification [3] - 25:7,

46:9, 47:2

clarify [4] - 19:1,

72:11, 72:13, 72:25

clarity [3] - 78:23,

91:25, 94:9

classified [4] - 44:1,

44:13, 45:6, 90:12

cleaner [1] - 25:18

clear [14] - 7:21, 8:20,

19:19, 37:15, 50:23,

79:10, 81:22, 92:18,

93:1, 99:1, 99:2,

99:3, 99:17, 117:9

cleared [1] - 56:16

clearly [2] - 50:2,

50:15

CLERK [1] - 1:1

clerk [3] - 8:15, 72:21,

113:2

Clerk [4] - 1:25, 3:5,

8:14, 19:8

clerk's [2] - 15:10,

57:23

Clerk's [4] - 7:24,

26:4, 26:7, 35:25

client's [1] - 31:6

clients [1] - 31:3

closes [1] - 27:17

cloud [11] - 10:7,

12:12, 13:3, 14:25,

16:18, 16:25, 17:15,

18:12, 20:10, 20:20

clouds [1] - 25:23

codification [3] - 2:19,

32:7, 95:25

codify [1] - 98:4

Coleman [1] - 109:22

collaboration [1] -

26:4

collapsed [1] - 22:14

colleagues [3] - 8:18,

37:22, 38:5

Collector's [1] - 26:10

coming [4] - 23:14,

33:9, 55:9, 110:24

command [2] - 58:15,

79:25

comment [5] - 23:20,

30:14, 31:10, 80:13,

116:11

comments [9] - 5:15,

6:14, 8:19, 26:19,

80:7, 91:4, 91:11,

116:23, 120:22

commercial [15] -

44:2, 44:13, 45:3,

71:8, 73:5, 73:13,

73:24, 75:8, 77:4,

77:14, 77:23, 101:1,

103:8, 104:21,

105:10

commercial/

residential [1] - 77:5

Commission [4] - 1:1,

113:22, 114:1, 114:3

commissioner [1] -

100:11

COMMISSIONER [321]

- 3:19, 5:14, 5:20,

5:24, 6:7, 6:9, 6:12,

6:19, 6:21, 6:23, 7:1,

7:12, 7:14, 7:16, 9:4,

9:7, 11:4, 11:7,

13:15, 13:21, 15:18,

17:1, 17:4, 17:9,

17:14, 17:18, 18:17,

18:24, 18:25, 19:1,

20:23, 21:3, 21:5,

21:12, 21:20, 21:24,

22:1, 22:7, 22:18,

22:22, 22:25, 23:5,

23:13, 23:16, 23:22,

24:20, 24:22, 25:4,

25:19, 26:2, 26:14,

26:16, 26:18, 26:22,

26:24, 27:4, 27:7,

28:12, 29:3, 29:7,

29:18, 29:22, 30:4,

30:7, 30:9, 30:15,

30:18, 30:22, 30:25,

31:11, 31:15, 32:10,

32:20, 32:21, 32:22,

32:24, 33:6, 33:13,

33:15, 35:20, 36:5,

36:10, 36:14, 36:20,

37:2, 37:12, 38:3,

38:15, 39:3, 39:13,

39:16, 39:17, 40:4,

41:10, 41:19, 42:17,

42:22, 43:1, 43:3,

43:4, 43:8, 43:12,

43:16, 45:13, 45:17,

45:22, 46:5, 47:22,

48:2, 48:13, 48:18,

48:22, 49:5, 49:6,

49:8, 49:10, 49:15,

49:18, 49:19, 50:13,

51:7, 52:13, 53:11,

53:15, 54:3, 54:8,

55:6, 55:16, 55:20,

55:24, 56:1, 56:3,

56:5, 56:7, 56:10,

56:21, 57:1, 57:9,

57:16, 57:25, 58:9,

58:20, 58:23, 59:10,

59:19, 60:20, 60:23,

61:1, 61:4, 61:20,

62:3, 62:17, 62:23,

63:3, 63:7, 63:11,

64:10, 65:6, 65:25,

66:1, 66:14, 66:21,

67:22, 68:1, 68:4,

68:16, 68:18, 68:22,

69:9, 69:15, 70:5,

70:18, 70:21, 70:25,

71:1, 71:3, 71:11,

71:14, 71:19, 71:22,

71:24, 72:1, 72:3,

72:5, 72:10, 72:18,

72:24, 73:18, 73:22,

74:2, 74:10, 74:15,

75:9, 75:20, 75:23,

76:1, 77:7, 77:12,

77:16, 77:22, 77:25,

78:3, 78:11, 78:16,

78:22, 79:4, 79:8,

79:25, 80:2, 80:4,

80:6, 80:11, 80:22,

82:1, 82:3, 82:17,

83:3, 83:4, 83:5,

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83:7, 83:14, 83:22,

83:24, 84:1, 84:12,

84:14, 84:20, 85:21,

85:25, 86:14, 86:19,

86:23, 87:1, 87:6,

88:9, 88:13, 88:18,

88:24, 89:6, 89:14,

89:21, 90:1, 90:22,

91:3, 91:7, 91:10,

91:12, 91:19, 92:6,

93:16, 93:18, 93:20,

93:24, 94:6, 94:15,

94:21, 95:3, 95:8,

95:13, 95:16, 96:19,

97:13, 98:1, 98:5,

98:11, 99:21,

100:24, 101:13,

101:17, 101:25,

102:4, 102:17,

103:6, 103:12,

103:18, 103:23,

104:4, 104:8,

104:15, 105:4,

105:13, 105:17,

106:3, 106:11,

106:18, 108:24,

109:6, 109:24,

110:4, 110:9,

110:18, 112:13,

112:16, 113:7,

113:11, 113:17,

113:25, 114:7,

114:10, 114:14,

114:16, 115:1,

115:5, 115:23,

116:7, 116:12,

116:17, 117:4,

117:8, 117:12,

117:14, 117:24,

118:4, 118:8, 120:4,

120:21, 121:4,

121:11, 121:17,

121:22, 122:7

Commissioner [10] -

1:11, 1:11, 3:8, 7:15,

9:13, 13:12, 32:22,

55:5, 75:22, 83:2

COMMISSIONERS [1]

- 1:1

commitment [1] -

28:24

committee [7] - 16:5,

16:6, 16:17, 24:17,

25:24, 26:6, 40:2

community [1] - 40:13

commuters [3] -

38:20, 38:23

compare [3] - 64:24,

103:11, 114:21

competence [1] - 65:1

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complaint [4] - 2:17,

32:18, 112:17

complaints [4] -

64:21, 66:12, 67:7,

104:19

complete [5] - 11:14,

44:12, 50:20, 70:15,

119:5

completed [1] - 43:22

completely [2] - 40:9,

40:15

complex [1] - 64:5

complexity [2] -

65:20, 68:9

compliance [1] - 4:8

compliant [3] - 42:4,

68:15, 69:7

comply [1] - 73:16

complying [1] - 76:16

component [3] -

55:18, 107:7, 112:14

composition [2] -

16:5, 16:16

comprehensive [1] -

81:17

comprises [1] - 61:16

computer [3] - 69:21,

70:8, 70:17

concept [1] - 14:25

concern [6] - 9:13,

14:12, 15:2, 19:25,

21:13, 105:24

concerned [1] -

108:15

conclusion [2] - 45:7,

102:9

concrete [1] - 15:25

Condensed [1] - 2:12

condensed [43] -

31:23, 45:24, 46:1,

46:23, 46:24, 47:5,

53:3, 53:6, 56:4,

56:6, 56:8, 56:14,

57:10, 60:2, 60:4,

62:21, 67:8, 70:10,

73:3, 73:4, 74:5,

74:8, 74:11, 74:14,

74:23, 76:6, 77:18,

77:21, 77:23, 78:6,

78:7, 78:15, 79:2,

80:20, 81:3, 81:13,

82:9, 82:10, 82:21,

85:2, 85:9, 86:10,

87:19

condition [1] - 53:5

condos [1] - 64:6

conduct [2] - 98:6,

99:3

conducting [1] - 14:6

Conference [1] - 1:1

confidential [2] -

13:24, 14:17

conflict [1] - 96:11

confuse [1] - 76:12

connect [1] - 25:11

consensus [1] - 32:8

consider [10] - 11:17,

17:24, 20:19, 22:24,

23:4, 24:17, 51:12,

65:23, 85:13, 89:10

consideration [7] -

4:25, 20:22, 42:11,

42:16, 65:18, 68:7,

69:12

Consideration [1] -

2:2

considering [2] - 23:2,

89:16

constant [1] - 108:1

constitutional [1] -

54:1

consumption [1] -

14:11

contact [1] - 112:22

continue [6] - 24:9,

24:10, 36:11, 36:12,

52:9, 84:4

continuous [4] -

59:23, 60:25, 61:2,

61:9

contract [14] - 18:22,

21:19, 21:21, 22:4,

22:6, 22:10, 22:15,

24:7, 24:8, 28:1,

85:23, 97:15, 97:18,

97:22

conversation [8] -

11:22, 12:12, 12:19,

13:5, 17:11, 29:4,

88:19, 121:16

conversations [1] -

28:13

coordinate [1] - 48:24

copies [4] - 63:4,

121:23, 122:1, 122:2

copy [3] - 31:5,

117:20, 117:21

Coral [2] - 30:23,

38:22

correct [15] - 17:6,

26:12, 35:14, 36:13,

36:18, 40:22, 41:18,

42:14, 48:17, 58:5,

59:15, 95:13,

100:10, 105:6,

123:11

corrected [1] - 35:15

cost [21] - 2:22, 28:10,

29:15, 37:11, 100:8,

100:12, 100:20,

104:14, 104:17,

105:7, 105:11,

106:3, 106:14,

106:19, 106:23,

107:20, 108:6,

108:14, 109:5,

114:19, 115:16

costs [3] - 27:20,

27:23, 28:7

counties [6] - 38:10,

98:16, 108:1,

114:23, 114:25,

115:25

COUNTY [2] - 1:1,

1:19

county [1] - 40:19

County [52] - 1:20,

3:4, 7:24, 16:21,

18:9, 18:13, 20:20,

20:21, 23:25, 24:14,

25:15, 27:21, 34:4,

34:5, 34:6, 34:19,

37:24, 38:7, 38:13,

38:14, 38:22, 39:1,

39:11, 39:21, 40:3,

41:5, 41:8, 42:7,

42:8, 42:10, 42:23,

43:2, 61:14, 61:19,

62:2, 62:13, 63:10,

63:22, 65:20, 65:21,

66:8, 68:8, 79:3,

97:19, 100:22,

101:10, 111:10,

113:22, 114:1,

115:20, 123:15

County's [3] - 17:6,

18:19, 21:7

couple [2] - 104:25,

121:9

COURT [2] - 23:7,

123:22

court [9] - 35:9, 35:18,

35:19, 35:24, 36:9,

36:18, 36:25, 37:10,

64:25

Courts [1] - 1:25

courts [1] - 8:15

cover [1] - 45:9

covers [1] - 79:1

create [7] - 46:6,

49:21, 53:8, 74:22,

87:7, 96:10, 106:13

creating [6] - 16:4,

66:25, 85:5, 86:20,

90:4, 90:23

credibility [1] - 94:10

criminal [2] - 109:3,

109:4

criteria [4] - 15:13,

64:11, 69:19, 75:1

criticism [1] - 109:8

current [1] - 69:21

cut [1] - 22:10

D

Dade [31] - 34:3, 34:5,

34:6, 37:23, 38:22,

39:11, 39:21, 41:4,

41:8, 42:7, 42:8,

42:10, 42:23, 43:2,

61:14, 61:19, 62:1,

62:13, 63:22, 65:19,

65:21, 66:8, 68:8,

79:3, 97:19, 111:10,

113:20, 114:1,

114:2, 115:20,

123:15

daily [1] - 8:24

data [3] - 24:6, 24:12,

97:5

DATED [1] - 123:14

dates [1] - 116:25

daughter [1] - 109:19

day-to-day [1] - 23:23

days [13] - 27:3, 27:7,

27:9, 33:17, 44:4,

55:14, 57:19, 57:20,

93:7, 93:8, 93:10,

93:12, 121:21

deal [3] - 45:22, 56:17,

57:10

dealing [3] - 55:12,

55:18, 97:4

deals [1] - 56:8

decide [4] - 4:18,

16:24, 42:11, 52:24

decided [3] - 38:19,

51:23, 112:2

decides [2] - 35:13,

57:20

decision [6] - 10:4,

35:7, 35:17, 36:3,

36:16, 37:5

decisions [5] - 2:3,

5:2, 5:11, 34:24,

92:17

defend [2] - 115:9,

115:19

defense [1] - 116:1

define [6] - 65:10,

65:14, 65:16, 78:4,

78:20, 78:25

defined [4] - 50:2,

50:15, 82:7, 82:16

defining [1] - 82:6

definition [11] - 31:23,

32:4, 46:12, 46:14,

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46:22, 56:4, 76:4,

76:6, 76:18, 78:23,

85:2

definitions [5] - 50:16,

52:19, 53:4, 65:9,

111:12

definitive [1] - 96:6

Delegation [3] -

113:21, 114:2

Democracy [1] -

107:21

demonstrate [2] -

61:13, 94:18

demonstrated [1] -

66:9

demonstration [2] -

62:11, 65:17

denials [1] - 119:2

deposited [1] - 20:25

Deputy [1] - 3:5

description [1] - 111:6

desire [1] - 36:9

detail [1] - 15:6

determination [2] -

2:22, 100:7

determine [1] - 69:23

determined [2] -

27:25, 61:15

determining [1] -

65:24

develop [1] - 26:3

developing [2] - 2:15,

32:14

devil's [1] - 23:1

Diaz [6] - 1:11, 3:18,

7:15, 18:25, 32:23,

55:5

DIAZ [105] - 3:19, 5:20,

6:7, 6:19, 6:23, 7:12,

7:16, 11:4, 11:7,

18:24, 19:1, 21:3,

21:24, 23:13, 24:20,

25:19, 26:14, 26:16,

26:22, 27:4, 29:18,

29:22, 30:7, 32:21,

32:24, 33:6, 33:15,

35:20, 36:5, 36:10,

36:14, 36:20, 37:2,

37:12, 38:3, 38:15,

39:16, 40:4, 41:10,

41:19, 42:17, 43:3,

43:8, 48:13, 48:18,

48:22, 49:5, 49:8,

49:18, 55:6, 55:20,

56:1, 56:5, 56:10,

56:21, 57:1, 57:9,

57:16, 57:25, 58:9,

58:20, 58:23, 59:10,

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least [7] - 28:23,

33:17, 54:17, 58:14,

59:9, 60:5, 71:24

leave [6] - 45:11,

65:13, 88:3, 91:8,

91:12, 110:25

left [3] - 87:8, 87:10,

91:16

legal [7] - 2:20, 40:10,

40:17, 51:17, 96:3,

101:4, 101:6

legally [5] - 52:3,

53:13, 53:16, 53:18,

91:17

legislation [1] - 49:12

legislators [1] -

115:11

legislature [1] - 94:8

less [4] - 85:11, 90:17,

102:12, 106:9

lesser [1] - 86:11

letter [6] - 35:11,

35:24, 36:2, 120:10,

120:11, 120:13

letters [2] - 2:17,

32:18

level [4] - 34:21,

49:25, 82:18, 82:19

levels [1] - 34:22

liability [1] - 12:3

license [1] - 69:8

licensed [2] - 39:7,

68:14

limit [2] - 4:17, 26:17

line [2] - 28:6, 94:7

listed [2] - 4:10, 32:3

listen [8] - 22:19,

22:22, 79:4, 79:14,

98:23, 102:17,

115:10, 121:15

listening [1] - 72:22

live [9] - 34:5, 38:21,

40:12, 40:19, 40:20,

41:2, 41:4, 41:20,

110:1

lives [1] - 38:24

local [1] - 39:17

logical [1] - 102:8

look [30] - 9:9, 10:12,

10:22, 11:11, 16:2,

16:14, 17:25, 21:10,

28:23, 29:14, 33:21,

34:1, 34:16, 34:18,

39:4, 41:8, 42:1,

46:5, 64:19, 66:4,

66:24, 74:21, 75:12,

98:11, 103:19,

106:24, 107:1,

107:24, 109:7

looked [2] - 9:11,

31:24

looking [19] - 4:21,

8:7, 26:21, 37:16,

42:19, 55:8, 66:15,

66:16, 66:18, 66:21,

80:10, 89:15, 90:3,

92:24, 93:20, 94:4,

111:4, 122:4

looks [1] - 50:10

Lorena [1] - 123:5

LORENA [1] - 123:21

love [1] - 88:4

lump [1] - 72:17

lumped [1] - 118:14

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magistrate [24] -

35:12, 35:13, 35:16,

36:1, 37:4, 37:5,

41:2, 44:5, 44:16,

45:9, 56:24, 58:10,

59:21, 61:11, 61:12,

64:15, 66:4, 69:5,

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magistrate's [5] -

35:6, 100:17,

101:21, 104:2,

118:24

Magistrates [2] - 2:2,

2:15

magistrates [41] -

2:12, 5:1, 5:6, 31:17,

31:25, 32:5, 32:15,

34:2, 34:3, 41:4,

41:7, 43:19, 44:3,

45:2, 45:4, 55:9,

55:15, 57:7, 57:15,

57:22, 57:23, 58:2,

58:12, 64:22, 67:8,

76:25, 85:1, 85:3,

85:11, 85:12, 88:6,

88:17, 90:7, 90:20,

101:6, 101:7, 101:8,

105:7, 105:19,

105:22, 111:13

magistrates' [1] -

36:15

Magistrates' [1] - 2:7

magnitude [1] - 33:19

major [2] - 37:9, 57:2

majority [1] - 87:3

man [2] - 7:2, 116:17

Management [1] -

26:9

management [2] -

23:11, 23:24

Manager [1] - 1:24

manager [1] - 64:17

Manny [3] - 77:1,

80:18, 102:9

manpower [1] - 96:14

manual [1] - 4:7

Manuel [1] - 1:16

Mark [1] - 1:25

market [4] - 61:14,

66:10, 73:21, 73:23

MARTINEZ [8] - 15:4,

17:7, 27:1, 27:5,

27:10, 29:6, 29:13,

29:20

Martinez [2] - 1:20,

1:25

Martinez-Esteve [1] -

1:20

massive [2] - 21:22

master [2] - 69:21,

70:8

mastered [2] - 70:17,

70:19

mat [1] - 29:23

mathematical [1] -

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maximum [1] - 41:16

mayor [1] - 43:7

mean [35] - 11:1,

11:13, 18:13, 22:5,

23:18, 24:23, 28:20,

35:25, 39:4, 39:14,

46:17, 53:17, 62:2,

62:15, 63:22, 64:6,

64:7, 67:1, 67:4,

69:24, 72:10, 81:15,

86:4, 86:12, 86:17,

102:20, 103:12,

103:14, 107:1,

107:2, 109:8,

112:19, 113:12,

114:21, 118:11

means [1] - 109:19

meant [1] - 19:2

measuring [1] - 115:6

mechanism [2] -

107:11, 107:12

meet [2] - 83:17, 83:18

Meeting [1] - 4:4

meeting [26] - 3:12,

3:14, 3:15, 4:5, 4:6,

4:9, 4:14, 4:24, 7:17,

8:4, 9:11, 27:13,

81:13, 83:16, 83:23,

85:7, 87:11, 87:16,

93:10, 93:23, 94:22,

98:24, 116:13,

121:18, 122:16,

123:9

meetings [5] - 33:18,

49:1, 88:5, 88:17,

111:19

meets [1] - 15:13

member [1] - 110:13

Member [1] - 1:12

MEMBER [148] - 3:20,

9:5, 9:8, 11:6, 11:9,

13:17, 15:16, 16:13,

17:2, 17:13, 17:17,

18:7, 18:21, 20:18,

21:10, 21:18, 22:3,

22:16, 22:20, 22:23,

23:3, 23:21, 25:2,

25:6, 25:25, 26:15,

27:14, 28:19, 31:13,

39:23, 40:6, 40:23,

41:23, 42:15, 43:6,

43:14, 43:17, 45:16,

45:20, 46:4, 46:8,

46:18, 46:21, 47:10,

47:16, 47:25, 48:4,

48:20, 49:3, 51:6,

51:8, 53:12, 53:16,

54:7, 55:22, 58:18,

59:16, 59:20, 60:3,

60:7, 60:14, 60:22,

60:24, 61:3, 61:7,

61:10, 61:21, 62:6,

62:25, 63:16, 65:4,

65:7, 66:20, 67:19,

68:6, 69:13, 69:18,

70:11, 71:2, 71:5,

71:12, 72:6, 72:12,

73:1, 73:10, 73:25,

74:7, 75:17, 75:21,

76:3, 76:10, 76:20,

78:21, 79:21, 80:9,

81:9, 81:20, 82:14,

83:1, 83:9, 83:19,

84:8, 84:25, 86:2,

86:16, 86:21, 87:12,

87:24, 89:24, 90:6,

90:18, 91:2, 93:6,

93:9, 93:13, 93:22,

94:13, 94:17, 95:11,

95:14, 96:17, 96:20,

97:14, 98:3, 98:9,

99:13, 99:16,

110:15, 110:19,

112:15, 112:24,

113:15, 113:23,

114:5, 114:12,

115:21, 116:24,

118:6, 118:10,

118:16, 118:20,

119:3, 119:16,

119:21, 120:2,

120:12, 120:19,

122:13

Members [4] - 3:2,

3:3, 3:7, 3:17

MEMBERS [1] - 1:9

members [7] - 3:6,

3:11, 16:9, 37:22,

52:24, 120:8, 121:20

membership [1] - 40:2

memo [1] - 80:18

memorandum [3] -

31:22, 52:18, 56:13

mention [2] - 112:3,

113:4

mentioned [3] - 14:13,

29:7, 78:9

mentioning [1] - 112:6

metric [1] - 95:21

metrics [3] - 2:22,

100:6, 102:18

Miami [22] - 39:11,

39:21, 41:4, 41:8,

42:7, 42:8, 42:10,

61:14, 61:19, 62:13,

63:15, 65:19, 65:21,

66:8, 68:8, 97:19,

110:2, 111:10,

115:20, 121:1,

121:8, 123:15

Miami-Dade [18] -

39:11, 39:21, 41:4,

41:8, 42:7, 42:8,

42:10, 61:14, 61:19,

62:13, 65:19, 65:21,

66:8, 68:8, 97:19,

111:10, 115:20,

123:15

Miamian [1] - 63:14

might [7] - 33:22,

33:23, 67:12, 75:6,

94:3, 101:20, 102:15

million [1] - 6:22

mind [2] - 13:23,

14:16

minimal [1] - 24:14

minimum [5] - 59:22,

61:4, 61:5, 61:6,

61:8

minutes [2] - 4:17,

42:2

mirroring [2] - 24:12,

24:23

mirrors [1] - 52:17

missing [4] - 45:18,

45:19, 112:11,

120:16

mistake [1] - 35:13

mistaken [1] - 8:14

mix [1] - 73:17

mixed [8] - 73:8, 74:2,

74:10, 74:19, 74:24,

76:14, 77:5, 105:8

mode [2] - 51:20,

93:17

money [3] - 29:16,

37:9, 109:17

monitor [1] - 115:16

monitoring [1] - 107:6

month [3] - 44:5, 44:8,

44:19

monthly [2] - 111:18,

111:20

months [4] - 60:18,

70:3, 100:13, 100:16

morning [2] - 88:6,

95:5

most [6] - 37:9, 57:14,

58:7, 62:1, 73:12,

107:20

mostly [1] - 4:9

motion [7] - 5:9, 5:19,

25:20, 26:3, 26:13,

55:13, 117:22

move [8] - 16:4, 24:10,

59:4, 67:4, 92:22,

95:10, 95:23, 118:2

moved [8] - 5:20,

5:22, 6:7, 6:9, 26:14,

99:24, 100:3, 118:4

movement [1] - 97:15

moves [1] - 30:6

moving [16] - 15:19,

34:24, 37:16, 42:23,

43:2, 50:14, 53:8,

57:11, 79:13, 82:25,

89:18, 91:25, 94:16,

99:5, 106:12, 115:7

MR [246] - 3:1, 3:22,

5:23, 6:3, 6:8, 6:11,

6:15, 6:17, 7:6, 13:9,

13:18, 13:20, 13:22,

15:4, 17:7, 23:9,

23:23, 27:1, 27:5,

27:10, 27:12, 27:18,

29:6, 29:10, 29:13,

29:20, 30:13, 30:16,

30:20, 30:23, 31:1,

31:16, 32:12, 33:3,

35:8, 35:22, 36:7,

36:12, 36:17, 36:24,

36:25, 37:6, 38:2,

38:7, 38:18, 39:7,

39:9, 40:22, 41:18,

42:14, 42:21, 42:25,

43:17, 46:16, 46:20,

47:9, 47:14, 47:19,

47:24, 48:17, 48:23,

49:14, 50:12, 52:12,

52:14, 56:18, 56:23,

57:4, 57:14, 57:21,

58:2, 58:5, 58:6,

58:7, 58:21, 59:9,

59:15, 60:1, 60:5,

60:10, 61:6, 61:9,

61:17, 61:24, 62:5,

62:21, 62:22, 63:2,

63:5, 63:9, 63:14,

63:18, 64:13, 66:3,

67:6, 67:17, 67:18,

68:3, 68:11, 68:13,

68:20, 68:25, 69:10,

69:11, 69:25, 70:7,

70:15, 70:20, 70:23,

71:17, 71:21, 72:20,

73:6, 73:20, 74:4,

74:9, 74:12, 75:2,

75:14, 75:25, 76:8,

76:19, 76:22, 76:24,

77:10, 77:13, 77:20,

77:24, 78:2, 78:10,

78:14, 79:2, 79:6,

79:16, 79:19, 79:20,

79:22, 79:24, 80:1,

80:3, 80:5, 80:24,

81:18, 83:11, 83:16,

84:6, 84:10, 84:16,

85:19, 85:23, 86:1,

86:6, 86:24, 87:3,

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92:5, 93:8, 93:11,

94:24, 95:1, 95:6,

95:24, 98:7, 99:15,

99:18, 100:5,

100:11, 101:2,

101:9, 101:10,

101:16, 101:19,

102:3, 102:6, 102:8,

102:13, 102:23,

103:3, 103:4,

103:10, 103:16,

103:22, 103:25,

104:5, 104:10,

104:14, 104:22,

105:6, 105:16,

105:18, 105:21,

105:24, 106:5,

106:7, 106:15,

107:18, 109:1,

109:14, 110:1,

110:7, 113:10,

114:9, 114:13,

114:15, 114:18,

115:3, 116:6,

116:11, 116:15,

117:2, 117:7,

117:11, 117:13,

117:16, 117:17,

117:20, 117:21,

118:2, 118:15,

118:18, 118:23,

119:8, 119:9,

119:14, 119:20,

119:23, 120:6,

120:17, 120:24,

121:6, 121:7,

121:10, 121:13,

121:21, 122:5

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9:8, 11:6, 11:9,

15:16, 16:13, 17:2,

17:13, 17:17, 18:7,

18:21, 20:18, 21:10,

21:18, 22:3, 22:16,

22:20, 22:23, 23:3,

25:2, 25:6, 25:25,

26:15, 27:14, 28:19,

31:13, 39:23, 40:6,

40:23, 41:23, 42:15,

43:6, 46:8, 46:18,

46:21, 47:10, 47:16,

47:25, 48:4, 48:20,

49:3, 51:6, 51:8,

53:12, 53:16, 54:7,

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59:20, 60:3, 60:7,

60:14, 60:22, 60:24,

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63:16, 65:4, 65:7,

66:20, 67:19, 68:6,

69:13, 69:18, 70:11,

71:2, 71:5, 71:12,

72:6, 72:12, 73:1,

73:10, 73:25, 74:7,

75:17, 75:21, 76:3,

76:10, 76:20, 78:21,

79:21, 80:15, 81:9,

81:20, 82:14, 83:1,

83:9, 83:19, 84:8,

84:25, 86:2, 86:16,

86:21, 87:12, 87:24,

93:6, 93:9, 93:13,

93:22, 94:13, 94:17,

95:11, 95:14, 96:17,

96:20, 97:14, 98:3,

98:9, 99:13, 99:16,

110:15, 110:19,

112:15, 112:24,

113:15, 113:23,

114:5, 115:21,

116:24, 118:6,

118:10, 118:16,

118:20, 119:3,

119:16, 119:21,

120:2, 120:12,

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multifamily [1] - 77:15

multiple [2] - 28:8,

57:7

multiply [1] - 90:8

must [6] - 38:12,

48:18, 68:14, 75:4,

116:13, 116:18

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name [6] - 30:18,

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native [1] - 63:14

nearly [1] - 108:10

necessarily [2] -

54:23, 61:24

necessary [1] - 60:6

need [35] - 5:12, 5:19,

8:6, 9:23, 10:23,

11:24, 12:25, 15:20,

16:23, 19:7, 24:21,

33:16, 45:8, 45:9,

46:12, 46:22, 47:1,

48:3, 49:3, 50:11,

54:15, 58:6, 67:2,

72:15, 78:4, 78:22,

88:21, 94:1, 98:1,

98:4, 104:11,

111:21, 112:19,

116:3, 121:17

needs [15] - 6:15, 8:9,

8:11, 28:16, 33:7,

50:3, 54:1, 65:8,

79:15, 99:1, 99:2,

107:8, 112:22,

113:20

negotiated [1] - 28:1

negotiating [1] -

108:21

never [1] - 83:6

new [6] - 2:9, 2:10,

7:7, 7:10, 43:7,

66:22

newcomers [1] -

86:11

newspaper [1] - 121:8

next [9] - 6:2, 27:12,

30:12, 31:15, 43:11,

83:16, 93:10, 94:7,

121:18

no-brainer [1] - 66:13

nobody [1] - 114:7

Nobody's [1] - 43:8

nobody's [1] - 43:9

none [1] - 14:16

noon [1] - 89:3

normally [1] - 76:24

North [1] - 109:20

Notary [1] - 123:6

notes [4] - 75:18,

75:20, 84:13, 123:12

Notice [3] - 2:25,

117:19, 117:25

notice [1] - 118:25

number [17] - 11:12,

11:25, 14:14, 29:1,

31:7, 43:25, 44:2,

44:3, 44:6, 44:7,

44:15, 60:20, 62:4,

90:10, 100:19,

106:1, 119:10

Number [6] - 60:22,

60:23, 61:12,

110:14, 111:5, 111:9

numbers [15] - 7:2,

11:5, 11:15, 13:6,

13:25, 43:24, 80:10,

89:22, 89:23, 90:4,

95:17, 105:15,

114:24, 115:24,

115:25

nuts [1] - 16:14

NW [1] - 1:1

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o'clock [2] - 88:7,

88:12

objecting [2] - 5:25,

30:10

objection [5] - 6:1,

7:4, 7:5, 99:25,

100:2

obviously [5] - 9:10,

66:16, 76:5, 97:2,

102:20

occasions [1] - 105:1

October [5] - 2:6,

27:13, 83:17, 83:19,

83:23

OF [3] - 1:1, 123:2

offended [1] - 114:8

offered [3] - 48:25,

49:1, 84:11

offering [1] - 81:2

Office [10] - 1:24, 3:4,

7:24, 14:3, 19:6,

26:7, 26:8, 26:10,

36:1

OFFICE [1] - 1:19

office [6] - 15:10,

26:4, 38:21, 53:25,

57:23, 87:23

offices [1] - 110:2

once [16] - 11:20,

16:8, 19:21, 27:25,

28:10, 32:7, 37:4,

56:25, 57:12, 57:15,

58:14, 59:5, 59:9,

71:24, 90:8, 97:1

one [38] - 15:13,

17:24, 20:24, 28:8,

30:13, 33:20, 33:24,

34:1, 41:9, 43:9,

43:10, 46:20, 54:5,

56:19, 56:21, 58:3,

62:16, 62:18, 63:21,

70:22, 75:12, 75:22,

78:8, 78:25, 81:8,

87:1, 89:18, 93:12,

94:11, 100:10,

102:14, 108:15,

110:7, 117:3,

118:21, 121:14

ones [4] - 17:7, 34:24,

35:3, 86:9

open [6] - 12:5, 16:24,

17:19, 34:7, 67:6,

110:11

opening [1] - 67:9

operate [2] - 24:9,

98:20

operates [1] - 98:25

operation [1] - 107:4

operations [2] - 23:24,

24:14

opine [1] - 37:23

opinion [2] - 2:20,

96:3

opportunity [4] - 9:9,

10:7, 51:17, 72:7

opt [10] - 47:3, 47:5,

47:12, 47:20, 47:23,

48:5, 48:8, 50:8,

50:10, 50:17

opt-in [3] - 47:3,

47:23, 50:10

opted [1] - 48:16

option [5] - 35:18,

74:25, 75:1, 75:3,

76:14

options [5] - 15:12,

21:11, 22:24, 23:2,

23:4

order [3] - 46:23,

73:15, 94:9

original [1] - 35:17

otherwise [1] - 69:7

ought [2] - 64:4,

112:21

outline [1] - 92:19

outlines [1] - 52:18

output [2] - 109:12,

109:13

outside [2] - 20:21,

41:9

outsource [1] - 25:8

overall [1] - 104:22

overlaps [1] - 89:1

overprotect [1] -

19:12

overtime [3] - 2:16,

32:15, 45:8

own [2] - 37:25, 96:10

owner [1] - 14:22

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p.m [1] - 122:15

packet [1] - 100:14

PAGE [1] - 2:1

page [1] - 59:21

pages [1] - 123:10

paper [3] - 50:22,

54:10, 54:16

parcel [1] - 28:22

part [25] - 9:25, 10:2,

10:13, 18:22, 19:24,

24:3, 34:16, 37:18,

42:18, 53:5, 55:9,

56:6, 58:16, 69:11,

73:12, 78:6, 82:17,

86:7, 90:18, 96:24,

99:18, 99:19,

105:12, 112:23,

113:17

participants [1] -

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participating [3] -

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participation [4] -

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49:25

particular [1] - 51:23

parts [2] - 89:18,

115:12

party [8] - 21:14,

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policies [8] - 2:13,

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resolution [2] - 5:12,

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respect [2] - 30:2,

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responsibility [1] -

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responsible [3] -

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rest [3] - 45:12, 67:13,

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returns [3] - 14:2,

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review [1] - 16:10

rewording [1] - 55:11

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26:3, 26:11

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round [1] - 18:6

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rule [3] - 52:1, 73:2,

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rules [2] - 80:19,

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run [9] - 18:18, 18:20,

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sale [1] - 43:5

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schedule [3] - 58:4,

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scholarship [1] -

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school [1] - 97:3

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section [2] - 111:14,

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secure [3] - 12:18,

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sometimes [2] -

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soon [3] - 27:8, 43:6,

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sooner [3] - 92:12,

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sorry [7] - 22:12,

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state [10] - 39:3, 39:4,

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54:14, 78:20, 96:8,

115:12, 119:24

statement [1] - 119:10

statute [1] - 96:8

statutes [2] - 54:14,

96:12

stenographic [1] -

123:11

step [2] - 51:1

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stick [2] - 18:5, 115:6

still [4] - 6:19, 24:9,

82:15, 122:7

stirred [1] - 98:19

stop [1] - 74:5

storage [3] - 20:20,

20:24, 25:11

store [1] - 21:8

straight [2] - 37:3,

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strengthen [1] - 64:12

strictly [1] - 118:23

structure [6] - 17:21,

17:23, 38:1, 49:22,

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structured [1] - 39:18

structures [1] - 50:1

study [1] - 100:22

stuff [13] - 13:2, 17:16,

23:12, 28:14, 31:8,

33:9, 91:6, 107:4,

111:13, 112:6,

112:10, 119:6

subject [3] - 57:17,

57:18, 91:22

subjective [4] - 63:5,

63:19, 64:9, 65:3

subjectively [1] -

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submitted [1] - 2:7

substantial [1] - 64:1

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17:14, 47:17, 47:19

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15:23, 55:1, 65:5,

67:24, 67:25, 95:4

suggestions [6] -

16:12, 34:7, 52:23,

64:11, 88:15, 117:5

summary [1] - 119:1

sunshine [1] - 4:7

supplied [2] - 43:21,

44:10

support [1] - 42:17

supportive [1] - 20:16

survey [1] - 107:10

system [36] - 2:11,

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7:19, 8:3, 8:9, 8:10,

8:25, 9:25, 14:4,

14:9, 15:9, 19:5,

19:14, 19:15, 21:1,

21:2, 21:15, 21:25,

23:24, 28:7, 29:14,

32:14, 32:17, 33:16,

37:17, 69:22, 70:4,

70:8, 70:17, 78:24,

82:4, 86:7

systems [2] - 8:23,

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Tallahassee [11] -

51:16, 52:10, 54:12,

65:13, 81:25, 92:16,

98:12, 99:7, 107:2,

111:25, 115:8

tamper [1] - 67:3

task [1] - 81:14

tasked [1] - 81:12

tax [15] - 2:4, 2:5,

3:13, 4:1, 5:4, 6:5,

14:2, 14:21, 31:3,

31:6, 117:24,

118:25, 119:10,

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117:18

taxes [2] - 35:3, 35:4

taxpayer [2] - 10:10,

35:5

taxpayers [2] - 40:5,

98:25

technically [1] - 18:11

technology [6] - 2:9,

2:11, 2:16, 7:8, 7:10,

32:17

temporarily [2] -

63:11, 63:12

tend [2] - 20:2, 103:16

terminology [1] -

76:11

terms [7] - 14:8,

65:10, 82:16,

102:25, 105:6,

108:5, 108:13

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themselves [2] -

14:23, 56:14

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21:16, 22:9, 24:3,

24:13, 25:8, 25:10,

76:14, 111:14

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43:20, 57:3, 57:4,

65:22, 69:21, 82:8,

111:19, 121:21

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60:12

throughout [1] - 44:17

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114:23

thrown [1] - 75:15

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82:18, 82:19

timeframe [1] - 26:20

timeline [2] - 26:25,

27:2

timeliness [5] - 43:18,

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76:17

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today [5] - 6:13, 8:25,

33:14, 72:23, 73:3

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113:16, 118:14

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tore [1] - 58:19

total [2] - 43:25,

101:11

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transcript [4] - 75:15,

84:17, 84:18, 123:10

transfer [1] - 12:22

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transparency [2] -

12:19, 92:1

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122:9

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97:22

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123:11

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33:12, 39:15, 59:4,

95:18

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48:15, 54:4, 57:4,

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60:8, 60:15, 60:25,

61:2, 61:8, 61:9,

63:21, 70:1, 70:2,

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103:13, 104:24

two-years' [1] - 61:2

type [3] - 8:8, 53:24,

111:7

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uncertified [2] - 2:3,

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unique [2] - 11:25,

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universes [3] - 10:21,

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unless [3] - 50:8,

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43:4, 48:6, 49:12,

49:22, 52:15, 52:16,

57:6, 57:7, 58:22,

65:13, 70:3, 75:11,

78:17, 78:18, 84:3,

92:14, 92:15, 93:14,

98:12, 98:19, 99:7,

100:20, 101:12,

101:23, 109:22,

110:11, 110:17,

115:8, 115:13,

120:15, 122:6

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upped [1] - 57:3

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VAB [33] - 1:15, 1:24,

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18:10, 24:9, 27:20,

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50:25, 52:11, 52:16,

53:7, 53:19, 64:13,

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98:22, 100:16,

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vacation [1] - 95:2

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volume [2] - 62:20,

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vote [3] - 53:20, 99:14

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year [18] - 2:4, 3:13,

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year's [1] - 28:17

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60:8, 60:15, 60:17,

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66:11, 70:1, 70:2,

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ZAPATA [217] - 5:14,

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31:15, 32:10, 32:20,

32:22, 33:13, 39:3,

39:13, 39:17, 42:22,

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51:7, 52:13, 53:11,

53:15, 54:3, 54:8,

55:16, 55:24, 56:3,

56:7, 59:19, 60:20,

60:23, 61:1, 61:4,

61:20, 62:3, 62:17,

62:23, 63:3, 63:7,

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70:21, 70:25, 71:11,

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72:5, 72:10, 72:18,

72:24, 73:18, 73:22,

74:2, 74:10, 74:15,

75:9, 75:20, 75:23,

76:1, 79:4, 79:8,

80:2, 80:4, 80:6,

80:11, 80:22, 82:1,

83:4, 83:7, 83:14,

83:22, 84:1, 84:12,

84:20, 86:19, 86:23,

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