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Return on Customersm and ROCsm are registered service marks of Peppers & Rogers Group
Who Moved My ROI?Building the Value of the Customer
and the Company
Stichting Marketing Foundation-Gent December 3, 2005
Martha Rogers, [email protected]
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You tailor your product, service or interactions
Customer talks with you
FEEDBACK
Saveme
time
The more effort a customer invests, the greaterThe more effort a customer invests, the greaterhis stake in making relationship workhis stake in making relationship work
Going to a competitor = Going to a competitor = reinventingreinventing the relationship the relationship
The “learning relationship”
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The antithesis to Learning Relationships: the “Goldfish Principle”
Some species of tropical fish have no capacity for territorial memory
Businesses operating on the Goldfish Principle have no customer memories— One U.S. hotel
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A different dimension of business competition
Traditional Marketing
Market shareR
etu
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n C
ust
om
ersm Share of
customer
Customer Needs Satisfied
Customers Reached
Maximize the financial return generated by each customer
Maximize the financial return for each product or each
marketing channel
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Daimler’s prediction of automobile demand
Gottlieb DaimlerWorld’s first four-wheeled
gasoline-powered automobile
Limiting factor: A shortage of qualified chauffeurs
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20th Century Marketing
Finding customers for the products available
Limiting factor: A shortage of paying customers
Today: more products, services, and channels
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Where does all our revenue come from?
From products?
From salespeople?
From our brand?
No, it’s simple –
All our revenue comes from customers— Fact: Some customers are worth more than others— Actual and potential value— Value today and value tomorrow
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Which is harder for a business to produce?
Products? Capital? Or customers?
OK, it’s obvious:—Customers are more scarce than products or capital—So why do we keep measuring only the profitability of
products? Why is the return on investment of money emphasized?
Customers are the limiting factor
You have to maximize the value created by each customer, not just the value of the financial investment
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Maximizing enterprise value is similar to farming
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Consider good Farmer Wilson
Wilson cultivates his land carefully
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With conservation his land remains productive
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It takes money to fertilize, to leave some land fallow, to cultivate in contours, and to rotate crops
But Wilson’s land will remain productive virtually forever
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Contrast with bad Farmer Miller
Miller doesn’t practice conservation— He simply plants the most profitable cash crop every year,
on every available acre of land
— He saves money by reducing his fertilizer expenditures, and by avoiding crop rotation
In the beginning, Miller easily harvests more profit than Wilson does— But over time his land burns out
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Short-term vs. long-term perspective Scary thought:
— In any given year, Wilson can always earn more by imitating Miller, and stopping his conservation
— But that would be stupid, right?
Well, remember the last 4th-quarter meeting?
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Enterprise Creates Value Two Ways
Profits are harvested, and
Customer equity is created or destroyed
Needed: A metric to capture the effects of both types of value creation
Customers are the scarce resource
So what is the rate at which a company creates economic value from its customers?
Return on Customer
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What is “Return on Customer”?
Customers are the scarce resource for a business» ROC measures true economic return on this resource
Consider the ROI on a portfolio of securities» Tally up dividend and interest income during the period» Then add in any increases or decreases in the value of the
underlying securities
But what if you only counted the income?
A company is like a portfolio of customers who» Buy things currently (current-period profit), and» Go up and down in value (changes in customer equity)
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Excessive focus on the short term
Creates a culture of bad management— Not only leads to accounting scandals and fraud— But diverts managers from their primary responsibility:
preserving and increasing the value of the enterprise
Duke University survey of more than 400 senior financial executives in 2004:— 78% said their firm would give up economic value if necessary to
meet Wall Street expectations!
Short-term focus distorts how a company views the value that its customers create for it
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Highly profitable bank:Market cap in Sept 2004 of $240b— Japan’s private banking clients generated less than 0.5% of the firm’s net
income – less than $100 million
But then: All the bank’s private banking in Japan was closed by regulatory authorities and in September Merrill Lynch downgraded the bank’s stock because: This company “might lack something that poses a threat to its future growth: a sense of right and wrong.”
Short-term gain, long-term loss
Bank’s stock price was doing well, and then…
$15 billion of lost value
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ROC increases shareholder return
Fortune July
Best Buy is raising its “returns on specific customer segments”
May: Pilot test begun
Sept: Rollout announced
Programs like this result in Wall Street “rerating the P/E”
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How Do Customers Create Value?
1. They buy things today, generating current sales and costs
2. They change their likelihood (today) of future buying and cost generation
Suppose a customer calls you with a complaint... Or makes a claim after paying for twenty years… It makes sense for a business to try to increase the value
that any customer creates This means changing the customer’s behavior
— The company must commit its resources to some campaign or other marketing (or other) activity
But what “resources” are required?
— We use money, of course, but also customers
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ROC is Similar to ROI
Profit from customer + Change in value of customerProfit from customer + Change in value of customerStarting value of customerStarting value of customer
ROC =ROC =
Profit from investment + Change in value of investment Starting value of investmentROI =
ROI answers the question: How much value do you get for the moneymoney you have to use?
ROC answers the question: How much value do you get for the customerscustomers you have to use?
Both money and customers are used by a business when it creates more value
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Which Resource Will You Run Out of First?Evaluating two possible
marketing actionsValue of
customerInvestment
required per customer
Net new value created per customer
ROI ROC
Treatment 1 $100 $10 $30 300% 30%
Treatment 2 $100 $40 $100 250% 100%
Cash available Customers affected
Net new value created
Treatment 1 $5,000,000 500,000 $15,000,000
Treatment 2 $5,000,000 125,000 $12,500,000
If cashcash is scarce
Customers available
Investment required
Net new value created
Treatment 1 300,000 $3,000,000 $9,000,000Treatment 2 300,000 $12,000,000 $30,000,000
If customerscustomersare scarce
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ROI and ROC – Both measures together
Maximum ROI
Maximum ROC
Every possible treatment permutation
Increasing ROC
Incr
easi
ng
RO
I
ROI “hurdle rate”
Highest value creation
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Warning: “Marketing” can destroy value!
Example: Start with a million customers
A marketing campaign generates a 1% response (10,000)— Cost is €1 per solicitation, or €1 million total— Each response generates €125 in LTV profit, or €1.25 million total — So each individual campaign is successful, with a €250,000 profit
But suppose non-responders become just 0.5% less likely to respond with each solicitation
Then with each campaign customer equity decreases by more than the “profit” harvested!
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What do you mean – “use customers”?
Destroy equity by making money now at the expense of money later— Reduce the likelihood of future business
— Forfeit all chance of future business from one customer to make money from another
The DVD rental store fiasco that happens a million times a day
Scenario: Insurance agent as gatekeeper
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The agent who cost money with every sale
Company Y sells auto, property, health and life insurance Agents recruit customers, then are protected from
poaching by other Company Y agents Life and health are far more profitable lines But this agent does a terrific job winning new customers
for auto insurance...
How much value does Company Y lose every time
this agent recruits a new auto customer?
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Verizon’s wireless division generated $13.7 billion in operating earnings from 2002 to 2004 (Owned by Verizon Communications and Vodaphone)
But during this period the firm also cut monthly customer churn in half, from 2.6% to 1.3%
Cutting churn required balancing immediate profit against long-term customer satisfaction
Verizon created an additional $10.4 billion of value, in the form of increased customer LTV!
Average ROC during the period: 64%
ROC in Practice
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Thinking about future customer buying... Customers have lifetime values
— Lifetime value (LTV) is simply today’s value of all future profits you predict you’ll get from a customer
When a customer’s likely future profits change, his LTV changes, also
The amount of the LTV change represents value created (or destroyed), right now
— Tracking LTV is important, but
— Measuring ROC means tracking changes in LTV
If a firm uses ROI alone, it might: — Miss the biggest opportunities to create value, or
— Unknowingly destroy more value than it is creating
To understand the total value created by customers, it’s necessary to measure changes in lifetime value
Tracking ROC is the best and most direct way toCreate maximum value for each customer
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What if salespeople, service reps, account managers, and CEOs were penalized for the customer equity they have to spend today to achieve this quarter’s revenues?
What if Wall Street analysts held companies accountable for customer equity (as the best measure of enterprise value) as well as current revenue?
What if we could, and did, measure how much today’s
decisions really cost?
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How do we build a customer’s value to us?
We become more relevant
So how do we do that?
We figure out a customer’s needs and meet those needs better than a competitor who doesn’t know what we know
Anticipate what customer needs
Take the customer’s point of view:—Tesco, Orica, Eneco, SPAR, ING Europe
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Why do so many customer initiatives fail?
The information problem— Understand the whole value and need of each customer— Across products, services, geographies, touchpoints, and time
The strategy problem— Ready, fire, aim!— Do our customers belong to “marketing,” or are they the only source
of revenue for our company?— How do we measure the rate at which customers create value for our
company? How do we report it?— Who’s accountable for that? How do we manage it?
The adoption problem— Every employee decision and action creates or destroys value. How
do we build the ROC philosophy into everyone’s DNA?
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Managing a firm’s “Customer Equity”
ROC means making a lot of marketing decisions, as well as non-marketing decisions, about how we do our job
Every management decision should be
made with an eye toward its impact on customer
equity
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Taking the customer’s point of view means:
Treat Different Customers Differently
Relationships built on trust are the vehicle for customer-specific actions
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ROC has two equally important aspects
An economic metric for calculating the rate at which customers create value— Calculating the real costs of abusive marketing
— Financial justification for a better customer experience, higher satisfaction, loyalty, etc.
A philosophy of doing business based on earning customers’ trust — Maximizing the value customers create requires
— Maximizing the value created for customers
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Creating a culture of customer trust
“Treat the customer the way you would want to be treated if you were the customer.”
“No one tries harder for customers.”
“Our goal with our Fair Play program is to make ethics a natural part of our business”
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Stena empowers its employees… Irish Sea routes – 3mm+ passengers annually, for years it had a fairly
bad service reputation
Today virtually 100% of passengers are asked about their satisfaction within 30 minutes of destination
— Different Stena staff inquire, try to resolve problems on the spot
Everyone on staff – all 600 people – anyone can elect to spend up to £1000 to satisfy a customer!
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Creating a culture of customer trust
These companies are not just selling something.
They are building the value of the customer base.
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First rule of ROC:
Return on Customer = Total Shareholder Return
Customer equity equals enterprise value for an operating company
Return on Customer: Six rules
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Second rule of ROC:
Both long-term and short-term must be balanced
Don’t ignore the importance of short-term earnings!
Return on Customer: Six rules
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Third rule of ROC:
LTV is important, but LTV change is the number you actually want
You need to identify the “leading indicators” of LTV change
Return on Customer: Six rules
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Fourth rule of ROC:
Think and act in a customer-specific way
Customer relationships are required to maximize Return on Customer
Return on Customer: Six rules
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Fifth rule of ROC:
Earn the trust of your customers
Customers don’t care about their value to you; they only care about what they need from you
Return on Customer: Six rules
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Sixth rule of ROC:
Educate your employees and empower them to take action
Everyone has a different role to play, but the ROC metric provides a unifying objective for the whole organization. It’s everyone’s job to increase ROC.
Return on Customer: Six rules
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Toyama no Kusuri-Uri
House-to-house medical supplies
Consumers only charged for usage
Detailed records kept in a database, called the “Daifuku cho”
Circa 1750
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