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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRICT OF LOUISIANA
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14-31037.1997
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PROCEEDINGS IN CHAMBERS
(March 14, 2014)
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k o& ?o e 7oo< la&?e +. T20+ 0+ a )e ?, )e ? +e 0o + 0++ e
o6 at0o al 0 te e+t a < 084o t, 8a? e 0 te at0o al, +o t2e e
a e a co 4le o6 <0+clo+ e+ t2at I 2a)e to 8ake t2at I <o ot
t20 k &a a t ec +al, t 06 +o8e o<? 2a+ a 7oo<, co )0 c0 7
ea+o a < ?o <o t 2a)e to <ec0<e 072t o& to a+k 8e
to ec +e 8?+el6, I &0ll ce ta0 l? 70)e 0t e)e ? 4 o6e++0o alco +0<e at0o .
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la&?e . Fo t atel?, I 2a)e t ee<e< Sto e P078a 0 a o t
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co t o)e +0al eal e+tate <0+4 te a < 2e <0< 0t + cce++6 ll? o
8? e2al6. T2at &a+ a o t 3# ?ea + a7o.
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to k o& t2at. Sto e P078a 2a+ 8? &0ll. So I +t &a t t2at
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t2at + t e o ot. I 2a)e t ea< a ? o6 t2e ca+e+ eca +e I
&a t to kee4 a o4e 80 <, a < I <o t &a t to ea< t2e ca+e+
t0l I 2a)e co +0<e e< e)e ?t20 7 el+e.
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0te <ee4l?. I <o &a t ?o all to k o& t2at. A < I <o t
&a t 0e6+ e cee<0 7 t2e 4a7e l080t+.No&, &e 2a)e t2 ee ca+e+. S2o l< &e co +ol0<ate
t2e8 I <o t 2a)e a ? 6eel 6o t2at.
MR. COURSON: /ell, J <7e, t2e e a e +o8e <066e e ce+
et&ee t2e ca+e+. O ca+e 0+ a eco7 0t0o ca+e.
. S40)e? + 4la0 t066+ a e +eek0 7 8a 0a7e l0ce +e+. So
t2e e a e +o8e
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MR. SPIVE : 9e+. T2e a8e <8e t a+ o6 Ja a ?, I
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+eek0 7 t2e? a44l0e< 6o 8a 0a7e 0 O lea + Pa 0+2 a < &e e
<e 0e<, a < +o &e a e +eek0 7 t2e 0 ct0o
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e+t0o t2at I a0+e< 0 t2e ea l0e
MR. DUNCAN: Oka?.
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8? a 8+ a o < t2at eca +e I <o t k o&. It 8072t e clea e
a < 6a0 e 06 t2e e &a+ +t o e o40 0o 6o all t2e ca+e+.
/2at I 8 7o0 7 to <o 0+ lt08atel? +e < ?o a o < &0t2 C2a le+
to co8e 4 &0t2 a ca+e 8a a7e8e t o <e , +o ?o ca t ? to
e+ol)e 0t a8o 7 ?o +el)e+. I 2a)e t 6o 8e< a o40 0o a o t
t2at. It + 8o e o6 a e+t0o o6 co ce to 8e a o t e0 7
e660c0e t 0 7ett0 7 t2e+e ca+e+ e+ol)e<, 06 t2e? +2o l< e
e+ol)e< o&.T2at 0 7+ 4 t2e e t 0++ e, a < t2at 0+
+2o l< &e 4e 2a4+ o at lea+t 2a)e a +c2e< le t2at + co84at0 le
&0t2 t2e Te t2 C0 c 0t ca+e a < t2e F06t2 C0 c 0t Te a+ ca+e
T2e Te t2 C0 c 0t ca+e, I el0e)e, 0+ e0 7 a 7 e< a c2 -1.
MR. DUNCAN: A4 0l 1# 6o t2e Uta2 ca+e, A4 0l 1( 6o
t2e Okla2o8a ca+e 0 t2e Te t2 C0 c 0t, J <7e.
THE COURT: So t2e e a e t&o ca+e+ 0 t2e Te t2
C0 c 0t.
MR. DUNCAN: T&o ca+e+ 0 t2e Te t2 C0 c 0t. T2e?
a e e0 7 2ea < ? t2e +a8e 4a el o e &eek a4a t.
THE COURT: Oka?.
MR. DUNCAN: Al+o, J <7e, t2e !0 70 0a ca+e 2a+ ee
e 4e<0te< 0 t2e Fo t2 C0 c 0t.
THE COURT: I k o& t2e e + ee a a44eal to t2e
F06t2 C0 c 0t 0 t2e Te a+ ca+e.
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MR. DUNCAN: No eco < o a44eal ?et 6 o8 t2e /e+te
D0+t 0ct o6 Te a+, o 0e60 7 +c2e< le ?et.
THE COURT: Sa A to 0o.
MR. DUNCAN: T2at + 072t.
THE COURT: Tell 8e &2? &e +2o l< t at lea+t 2a)e a
+c2e< le t2at + co84at0 le &0t2 7ett0 7 +o8et20 7 6 o8 a co t
o6 a44eal t2at 8072t e 2el46 l.MR. DUNCAN: J <7e, 2e e + o )0e& o t2at. T2e
Te a+ ca+e <oe+ 4 e+e t 0++ e+ t2at o)e la4 &0t2 t2e+e ca+e+.
Ho&e)e , 8? cl0e t+ +t o 7l? 6eel t2at Lo 0+0a a 2a+ 0t+ o&
co +t0t t0o a < 0t+ o& co84le o6 la&+, 0t+ o& le7al
t a<0t0o +, a < t2o+e ee< to e l0t07ate< o 0t+ o& 8e 0t+.
/e ce ta0 l? <o t &a t to +ee Te a+ l0t07at0 7 Lo 0+0a a +
ca+e 6o +.
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+t tol< + t2at, a < &2e ?o <o ea< t2e8 I t20 k &2at ?o
&0ll +ee 0+ t2at t2e+e <0+t 0ct co t o40 0o + t2at a e co80 7
at2e a40<l? a o < t2e co t ? a e all a+e< 8o e o le++ o
t2e +a8e ea+o 0 7. T2e? a e all 7o0 7 t2e +a8e <0 ect0o .
Lo 0+0a a, 0te +084l?, &a t+ ?o )0e& o 0t, J <7e. Rat2e
t2a &a0t0 7 to +ee &2at t2e F06t2 C0 c 0t <oe+, I t20 k t2e
F06t2 C0 c 0t &o l< e 2el4e< ? 2a)0 7 ?o )0e& o 0t.
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o6 t2e8 <o <e60 0tel? 6eel t2at &a?, t I k o& at lea+t t2 ee
&2o &o l< t a<80t t2at.
MR. DUNCAN: I 2a)e to e 0te 6 a k. T2at +
&2et2e ?o a7 ee &0t2 t2e +tate + a 7 8e t+ o ot. Lo 0+0a a
&a t+ to +ta < o 0t+ o& otto8 2e e, a < I t20 k t2at
THE COURT: B? t2e &a?, let 8e +t < o4 a 6oot ote
to &2at ?o +t +a0<. I <ecla e< co +t0t t0o al 4o t0o + o6
t2e +e e70+t at0o la& ot lo 7 a7o. I 6o < t2e +tate +0e60 7 0te te o + at e+t, al8o+t 4 o6e++0o al. I k o&
?o 2a)e a 7oo< e4 tat0o .
MR. DUNCAN: T2a k ?o .
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?o + 4e 0o + t2at I 8 7o0 7 to e e 4ect0 7 +o8e 7oo< +t 66
6 o8 t2e +tate, &20c2 I <o t + all? 7et.
MR. DUNCAN: /ell, I <0< t 2a <le t2at ca+e, J <7e.
THE COURT: I k o& ?o <0< t. I k o& ?o <0< t. I
<o t &a t to a8e 0 4 l0c &2o <0<.
MR. DUNCAN: A+ ?o k o&, I &a+ a44ellate c20e6 t2e e
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4 0)ate 4 act0ce
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MR. DUNCAN: +o I ll e 2a <l0 7 t20+ ca+e
4e +o all?.
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<o t2e e+t I ca o 0t.
THE COURT: oo<.
MR. DUNCAN: Ha)0 7 +a0< t2at, J <7e, &e &a t t2e
o44o t 0t? to l0t07ate t20+ ca+e e6o e ?o a < ot let Te a+
<ec0<e 0t 6o +.
THE COURT: 9o <o t &a t to +ee &2at t2e Te t2
C0 c 0t +a?+
MR. DUNCAN: I )e ee 0 6 o t o6 t2e Te t2 C0 c 0tece tl?, J <7e, a < I 8 + e &e ca all ea< &2ate)e t2e?
+a?, t ?o e 7o0 7 to 7o t2e &a? t2at ?o o 72t to 7o.
THE COURT: All 072t. Fa0 e o 72.
Do ?o all <0+a7 ee &0t2 a ? o6 t2at
MS. HARRIS: /e <o t <0+a7 ee.
MR. COURSON: No.
MR. DUNCAN: I6 I co l< a<< ot2e t20 7, J <7e, a <
8a? e &e ll 7et to t20+ 0 a +eco <. /e +t o 7l? al+o t20 k
t2at t2e+e a e le7al e+t0o +.
THE COURT: T2at t2e+e a e
MR. DUNCAN: T2e+e a e 4 e le7al e+t0o +. T2e+e
a e ot 6act e+t0o +. /e a e ot 7o0 7 to a 7 e to ?o
a o t at lea+t I <o t 4la o a 7 0 7 a o t t2e 6act+.
THE COURT: I <o t t2at I &0ll <0+a7 ee &0t2 t2at.
I 8 o4e to 0t, t I <o t t2at I &0ll <0+a7 ee &0t2 t2at.
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a 7 e. I ce ta0 l? k o& &2at I 8 7o0 7 to a 7 e 6o t2e +tate.
T2e e 0+ o lack o6 <0c0al o40 0o a <
co88e ta ? o t t2e e. L0ke ?o , I 2a)e +t <0e< Windsor
ca e6 ll?. I k o& &2at I t20 k a o t Windsor . So t2e+e a e
le7al a 7 8e t+. I +t look 6o &a < to a 7 0 7 t20+ ca+e 0
6 o t o6 ?o a < 2ea 0 7 &2at ?o 2a)e to +a? a o t 0t.
MR. COURSON: I <o t <0+a7 ee. I el0e)e t2e+e a e
le7al a 7 8e t+ a+ &ell, J <7e. I 7 e++ I &0ll +a? 0 t2eot2e ca+e+ t2e e 2a+ ee a lot o6
THE COURT: T2e ot2e <0+t 0ct co t ca+e+
MR. COURSON: 9e+, +0 , t2e ot2e <0+t 0ct co t
ca+e+. T2e e + ee a lot o6 +oc0al +c0e ce e)0<e ce 0 +o8e
o6 t2e ot2e ca+e+. I 8 ot 0te + e &2at +t060cat0o + t2e
+tate 0+ 7o0 7 to +e 0 t20+ ca+e, t ce ta0 l? 06 t2e +tate
4la + to co8e 6o &a < &0t2 +o8e +o t o6
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MR. COURSON: +t <0e+, I &a t a o44o t 0t? to
e+4o < to t2o+e.
THE COURT: S e.
MR. DUNCAN: T2at + a 7 eat 4o0 t. I ce ta0 l? &o l<
e 2a44? to talk a o t t2at 072t o& 0 6 o t o6 ?o , J <7e.
/2e ea+ I ca 08a70 e +o8e a o& +e o6 +oc0al +c0e ce
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e+4ect.
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MR. COURSON: [5] 4/11 8/14 9/7 9/11 9/17 MR. DUNCAN: [41]MR. SPIVEY: [5] 4/16 10/11 14/2 14/5
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