a few DT updates please From : To : Cc : Date : " Forkner , Mark A" @ boeing . com > (FAA )" . gov @ boeing . com > Tue , 17 Jan 2017 19 : 00 : 58 - 0500 Hi We re starting to work on the reverse differencesDT, and I noticed a few things that should be changedin the DT for the NG to MAX , that are in thedraft FSB: Flight Controls : Delete MCAS, recall we decided we weren 't going to cover it in the FCOM or the CBT , since it' s way outside the normal operating envelope Delete reference to Direct Lift Control (DLC ), we decided to not refer to the system in those terms, as it is more of an engineering term . It ' s removed from the FCOM and the CBT Any updated on when you think you ' ll get all the issues resolved with 280 and put this on the street for public comment ? Thanks! Mark Captain Mark Forkner 737 Chief Technical Pilot ~ Desk ~ Mobile @ boeing. com QBOEING
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a few DT updates please
From :To :
Cc :
Date:
" Forkner, Mark A" @ boeing. com >(FAA)" . gov
@ boeing.com >
Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:00: 58 - 0500
Hi
Were startingto work on the reversedifferencesDT, and I noticed a few things that should be
changedin theDTfortheNG to MAX, thatarein thedraft FSB:
Flight Controls :
Delete MCAS, recall we decided we weren ' t going to cover it in the FCOM or the CBT , since it' s way
outside the normal operating envelope
Delete reference to Direct Lift Control (DLC ), we decided to not refer to the system in those terms, as
it ismore of an engineering term . It' s removed from the FCOM and the CBT
Any updated on when you think you' ll get all the issues resolved with 280 and put this on the street
for public comment ?
Thanks!
Mark
Captain Mark Forkner
737 Chief Technical Pilot
~ Desk
~ Mobile
@ boeing. com
QBOEING
Hello from down Under!
From :
To :
" Forkner, Mark A <mark.a . forkner @ boeing.com >
(FAA) " @ faa.
Mon , 05 Oct 15 : 47: 43 -0400Date :
It' s 630am here , just getting ready to hit breakfast then try and jedimind trick these people into
buying some airplanes !
Captain Mark Forkner
737 Chief TechnicalPilot
Mobi
mark. a. forkner @ boeing. com
BOEING EDGEFlight Services
MCAS lives in both
( FAA )" @faa. gov
From : " Forkner, Mark A < mark . a. forkner @ boeing. com >
To: (FAA ) " @ faa .gov
Cc: @ boeing. com > ,
@ boeing. com > , "Gustavsson, Patrik H "
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11: 16 :45 - 0400@boeing. com >
I confirmed with the Flight ControlsengineersthatMCAS does live in both , andonly needs one
to function .
So given that , are you ok with us removing all reference to MCAS from the FCOM and the training aswe discussed , as it ' s completely transparent to the flight crew and only operates WAY outside of the
normaloperating envelope ?
Thanks, and see you tomorrow !
Mark
CaptainMark Forkner
737 Chief TechnicalPilot
- Desk
mark. a . forkner @ boeing.com
RE: Hithere
From :To :
Date :
" Forkner, Mark A " <mark. a . forkner @ boeing. com >
(FAA) " @ faa. gov
Thu, 03 Nov 2016 15: 27 : 47 - 0400
No I ' ve been working to certify thenew 737 - 8 (MAX) with all the regulators all over theworld. Led by theAEG . It was a hugedeal, but I gotwhat I needed to, at least so far. You know me, I usually get what I want!
How are you coming on the FSB report BTW I ' m out of town all next week in Montreal doing simflyouts . Can we get together before Turkey Day to wrap this up you think ?
Captain Mark Forkner
737 Chief Technical Pilot
mark. a. forkner @ boeing. com
Q BOEING
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Sen Wednesday, November09, 2016 1:25 PMTo: @ faa. gov
Cc: Forkner, Mark A <mark. a .forkner@ boeing.com >
Subject: RE: MAX FCOM / QRH
We will go with Option 1. Itwill be the TBC version , noMAX performance.
I confirmed with the AFM group that they will have theMAX performance information for your review priorto TC
From @ faa. gov . gov]Sent: Thursday, November03, 2016 1:22 PMTo: . com >Cc: Forkner, Mark A <mark. a forkner @ boeing. com >Subject: RE: MAX FCOM / QRH
Option 1 is fine. I m assuming the data supporting the inflightperformance andperformance dispatch generation are part of theAFMwhich will also come through mefor review and concurrence prior to TC .
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Sent: Thursday , November 03 , 2016 1:07 PM
(FAACc: Forkner, Mark A
Subject: MAX FCOM/ QRH
Aloha
The PQP calls forBoeingto providethe" final MAX 8 FCOM and QRH by December15, 2016.
I just learned thatthe PerformanceInflightandPerformanceDispatchdata generationisbeing
delayed. OurAero departmentneedsa littlemoretimethan originallythoughtto crunch the
numbersthat comeoutof flighttest. The bestanswer get from themanualsfolks is late
Decemberearliest for theperformance.
Option 1 Provideyou themanualson Dec 15 as promisedwithoutMAXperformance, andsend you
the completemanualswhen theperformanceis available
Option : Wait untiltheperformancedata is incorporatedto giveyou themanuals.
Mypreference would be Option 1, as it gives you somethingto look at in December
Yourthoughts?Thanks
FightTechnica & Safety
@ boeing. com
BOEING EDGEFlightServices
RE: Template question
(FAA)"
From : " Forkner, Mark A " <mark.a.forkner @boeing. com >To : (FAA)" @ faa. gov
@ faa. gov
Date: , 09 Feb 2018 11: 48 : 22 -0500
I ' m all for pullingthem out altogetherif you guys can jedimind trick 280 into doingwhat they let Brand A
Cc: Forkner, Mark A <mark. a. forkner@ boeing. com >
Subject: RE: Templatequestion
Mark , to expand on the conversation ofDT' s. hasbeen a recent
push back from OEM ' s regardingthe inclusion of DT table all together.SomeOEM ' s are saying they do notwant any DT' s includedbecause
they are proprietary. 280 let one FSB report postwithout any DT' s and
now the negotiation is open for discussion .
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Sent: Friday February 09, 2018 8: 30 AM
To : ( FAA ) @ faa .gov
Cc: Forkner, Mark A < mark. a . @ boeing. com >
Subject: RE: Templatequestion
Funny you ask . I have not submitted a - 10 787 FSB report yet. I will not do that until they publish therewrite one first. I do notwant to muddy the waters what we are " negotiating about. I am keeping arecord of the many hours spent dealingwith a simple template revision. When I submit the - 10 report it
will not have a new DT. I will hold tight to that until told otherwise.
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