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Page 1: Apresentação do PowerPoint€¦ · Positive surgical margins 1. 15% incidence (6-30%) 2. Similar in Robotic than in open/laparoscopic RP 3. Increasing incidence with higher grade,

Antonio Lopez-Beltran

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Radical prostatectomy

specimens

EPE+? M+?

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Sung, Montironi, Lopez-Beltran Current Diagn Pathol, 2014

Direito Esquerdo

Base

Apex

Base

Apex

1ª Fatia

2ª Fatia

3ª Fatia

5ª Fatia

6ª Fatia

7ª Fatia

8ª Fatia

4ª Fatia

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Positive surgical margins in RPs

ODefinition: ink on tumor cells

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M+?

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Positive surgical margins 1. 15% incidence (6-30%)

2. Similar in Robotic than in open/laparoscopic RP

3. Increasing incidence with higher grade, volume, and stage of

Pca

4. Strong dependent of surgeon “Experience”

Eur Urol 2014

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pT2 with + margin (intra-prostatic) pT2

pT3a with + margin (extra-prostatic) pT3a

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pT3a

M-

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A B

Unifocal

intraprostatic +SM

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Normal benign tissue at SM

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EPE+

SM+

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Swindle P et al, J Urol 174, 903, 2005

Biochemical

recurrence

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Surgical margins

O Extent: OFocal vs. extensive

1. number of blocks involved

2. mm of involvement

≤ 3mm vs. > 3 mm

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carcinoma

sampled area

False positive margin

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Missing Margin

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False M+

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Positive surgical margin in areas of capsular incision>>Biochem.

recurrence

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Izard JP et al, AJSP 38, 333, 2014 Close: < 0.1 mm from tumor cells

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Gleason at M+

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EPE LM vs DIG

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EPE LM (mm)

p value EPE LM single

(mm)

p value

EPE DIG (mm)

p value EPE DIG single p value EPE DIG R (mm) p value

pT2 vs pT3; (n)

median±SD

0.485*

0.663*

0.130*

0.156*

0.034*

pT2 (2)

3.500±0.7071

(2)

3.500±0.707

(2) 2.240±1.456

(2)

1.890±0.961

(2) 0.240±0.135

pT3 (39)

7.071±6.434

(39)

5.123±3.986

(39)

18.895±19.867

(39)

9.157±10.048

(39)

2.152 ± 2.137

LN status;

(n) median ± SD

0.418#

0.383#

0.330#

0.167#

0.138#

N0 (26)

6.730±6.115

(26)

4.538±3.373

(26)

18.274±21.541

(26)

7.353±6.310

(26)

1.815±2.031

N1

(8) 9.487±8.278

(8)

7.362±5.333

(8)

18.865±13.339

(8)

11.577±10.464

(8) 3.178±2.554

Nx

(7) 4.557±3.882

(7)

4.271±3.466

(7)

16.481±21.052

(7)

11.018±18.373

(7) 1.688±1.789

Biochemical

recurrence; (n)

median±SD

0.221*

0.383*

0.239*

0.461*

0.042*

No (26)

5.992±5.592

(26)

4.415±3.031

(26)

14.123±14.510

(26)

8.016±9.977

(26)

1.429±1.155

Yes (15)

8.466±7.356

(15)

6.133±5.012

(15)

24.948±25.565

(15)

10.167±10.019

(15)

3.151±2.915

Grade Group; (n)

median±SD 0.036#

0.069#

0.211#

0.205#

0.022#

GG 2 (22)

4.900±4.409

(22)

4.036±3.325

(22)

15.502±20.955

(22)

7.712±11.037

(22)

1.799±2.261

GG 3 (14)

6.857±4.671

(14)

4.785±2.636

(14)

17.243±17.243

(14)

8.289±6.202

(14)

1.577±0.951

GG 4 (5)

15.800±10.183

(5)

10.200±5.718

(5)

32.390±17.722

(5)

15.042±12.797

(5) 4.554±2.525

# Kruskal Wallis test; * U de Mann Whitney test; † ANOVA test

Legend: EPE LM - cumulative length of extraprostatic extension in mm, determined by light microscopy; EPE LM single - greatest single extraprostatic

extension in mm, determined by light microscopy, EPE DIG - cumulative length of extraprostatic extension in mm, determined digitally on whole slide

images; EPE DIG single - single greatest extraprostatic extension in mm, determined digitally on whole slide images; EPE DIG R - greatest single radial

length of extraprostatic extension in mm, determined digitally on whole slide images; LN status -lymph node status; GG - grade group

Table 3. Quantification of extraprostatic extension based on linear extent of positivity and disease characteristics.

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Impact of New Imaging methods

Any Role for Artificial

Intelligence?

M+?

EPE+?

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Conclusion

O En general, las mediciones totales (agregado

longitudinal) tienen mejor poder discriminante

que las mediciones del foco mayor individual.

O Patologia digital mejora el reconocimiento y

medición del M+ lo que tiene implicaciones

clinicas.

O Patologia digital mejora el reconocimento y

medición de la EPE, en particular del EPE radial,

lo que tiene implicaciones clínicas.

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GRACIAS


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