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  • GREGGBRADENGREGGBRADEN APRIL5APRIL5 , 2012,2012

    HEALINGWITHTHEMASTERS.COM

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    Host Volume9|April5,2012 Guest

    JenniferMcLean HEALINGWITHTHEMASTERS.COM GreggBraden

    Jennifer: WelcomeeveryonetoHealingWithTheMasters.Werehereforaveryspecialshowtonight

    withGreggBraden,butbeforewestart,Iwanttotalkdomylittleblurbaboutmasters.Justas a reminder that, thatword hasmanymeanings. Whilewemay think ofmasters as thewonderfulgueststhatsharetheirknowledgeandexperienceswithuseachweek,weconsideryou tobe themaster. Eachof you in this audience, you theparticipant,nooneknowsyoubetterthanyou,andnooneismoreuniquelyqualifiedtotransformyourlifethanyou.

    Todaywewilltogetherdiscoverthetoolsandtechniquestoheal,tocontinuetoshiftyourlife

    into love and light and in the process truly make a difference on this beautiful planet.Togetherweareapowerful community. Youmatterandyoucan lightup theworld. And Ithink were going to hear a little bit about that today from our very special guest, GreggBraden.

    GreggisaNewYorkTimesbestsellingauthor.Hesinternationallyrenownedasapioneerin

    bridgingscienceandspirituality.FollowingaveysuccessfulcareerasaComputerGeologistforPhillips Petroleum in the 70s during the energy crisis, he worked as a Senior ComputerSystems Designer withMartinMarietta during the last years of the ColdWar. In 1991 hebecame the first Technical Operations Manager for Cisco Systems where he led thedevelopmentoftheglobalsupportteamthatensuresthereliabilityoftheInternetinitsearlyyears.Inotherwords,Gregghashadhisfingersineverysinglemajorthingthathashappenedinthe last20years. Andhecontinuestodothatashebridgesscienceandspiritualityasheuses indigenous wisdom combined with modern science to bring us the most amazingperspectives. And tonightweregoing to talkabouthisnewbook,DeepTruth: Igniting theMemoryofourOrigin,History,Destiny,andFate.Verysmalltitle,Gregg.

    Gregg: Well,smalltitleforbigideas.Jennifer: Thatsabigidea.Firstofall,DeepTruth.Didyougetanyfeedbackfrompeoplesaying,How

    doyouknowtheDeepTruth?Gregg: Youknow,Jenniferfirstofall,Ijustwanttosaythatitsreally,reallygoodtobebackonthe

    program. Im honored to be here tonight, and Im absolutely thrilled to bewith all of ourexistingfriends,thenewfriendsthatweregoingtomake intheprogramtonight,andtobepartof this series. And I think thesearepriceless series. Everyone learnsdifferently, and Ithinkthateveryoneknowsthatsomethingvery,veryuniqueishappeninginourworldtoday.And because we all learn differently, I think its just so beautiful that you have so manydifferent authors and speakers and scholars and researchers with so many different

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    perspectives that help give us context and meaning and give hope and possibility to whatwereexperiencingtoday. Imhonoredandproudtobeapartofthat. Somyexperience isthatourtimegoessoquickly,soifIdontsaythatupfront,itdoesntgetsaid.

    Jennifer: Thankyousomuch.Well,itsalwaysdelightfultohaveyouandbringyourgreatbackground

    andwisdomtousandheart.Imean,ascientistwithheart.Thatsthenewparadigm,isntit?

    Gregg: Oh, I likethat. Maybethats thephrasethatwere looking for tonight. Idontknow. Well

    see.Jennifer: Okay.Gregg: So thebook,DeepTruth, thisbookcameabout inaverydifferentway frombooks that Ive

    writteninthepast.GenerallyIchooseatitlethatdescribessomethingthatIdliketoexploreandsharetogivemeaningandhopeandhelptothechangesthatwereallgoingthroughinourlives.Thisbookhadnotitleuntilitwasalmostcomplete.AndIdwakeupinthemorningandthink,man,whatamIgoingtocallthisbook?Mypublisherwasreallyasking. Howcanwetellpeopleaboutabookthathasnotitle?AnditwasIwasreadingabiographybyitwasaboutAlbertEinstein,thelifeofAlbertEinstein,whoIhavetremendousrespectfor;oneofthegreatmindsinthe20thCentury. AnditwasinaconversationthatAlbertEinsteinwashavingwitha friendandcolleagueofhis,NobelPrizewinningphysicist,NielsBohr. Andthetwo of them were talking, Jennifer, about the nature of truth. And in the course of theconversationitwasthenatureofscientifictruth.ButwhatNielsBohrsaidabouttruthinhistimeIfeltappliedsomuchtowhatshappeningtoday,thatithadtobethetitleofthebook.

    So Im just going to share the quote. What was happening was almost everymonth, new

    discoverieswere overturning existing ideas that science had held firmly to for a number ofyears.Sothenewdiscoveriesbecamethenewdeeptruths.AndthisiswhatNielsBohrsaid.Heresthequote.Hesaid:

    Itisthehallmarkofanydeeptruththatitsnegationalsobecomesadeeptruth. End of quote. So he was saying the new discoveries themselves replace what we once

    believed tobe true aboutourselves andour relationships to theworld. When I saw that, Isaid,wow,thatsgottobethetitle forthisnewbook,because itdescribespreciselywhat ishappeningandwherewefindourselvesintheworldtoday.AndwhenIreleasedthebookinOctoberof2011,oneofthefirstthingsthatIfoundwasthewordtruthmeansawholelotofdifferentthingstoawholelotofdifferentpeople.

    Andtheywouldaskmesomeactuallyfeltlikeitwasverypresumptuousofmetousethis

    wordinthetitle.Theysaid,Whatgivesyoutherighttotalkaboutandusethewordtruthinthetitleofyourbook?AndwhenIsharewhereitcomesfrom,theycertainlyfeeldifferentlyaboutit.Butthisiswherewefindourselves,Jennifer.AndIheardyousaythatyouredoingyourbesttopreserveyourvoicetonight,soImhappyforyoutochimeinanywhereyoudlike,andId liketo justsharewithouraudienceaboutwhyIwrotethisbookandwhere itcomesfrom.

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    Jennifer: Okay,yeah,thatwouldbegreat.Youcaninterviewyourself.IwillchimeinGregg: Tellme,Greggtellmeaboutyourlife.Jennifer: Okay,thatsthetopofthehournow.SoIdohaveaquestionthought.Gregg: Sure.Jennifer: Youtalkaboutthesinglebasicquestionthatyoustartthewholebookwithistheverycoreof

    ourexistence.Whoarewe?Gregg: Absolutely.Jennifer: Imcurious.Whatdidyouwhatconclusionsdidyoureachthroughthecourseofthisbook?Gregg: Well,thereasonImaskingthequestionfirstofall,thebestmindsofourtimearetellingusin

    nouncertaintermsthatthisisnoordinarytimeinthehistoryofourworld.Someofthethingsthatmakeituniqueareobvious,likeclimatechange,likethecollapseoftheglobaleconomicsystem,thecollapseoftheuseandthethinkingofjobs,career,money,thewaywevethoughtofinthepast.WhenIlookedatallofthethingstheconvergenceofsomanysystemsthatseemtobechangingandsomeofthemareactuallybreakingrightnow.Asdifferentastheyarefromoneanother,whatbecameverycleartomeisthis.Thewayweaddresswhatmanypeopleseeascrisisofourtime,thewaythatwesolvetheproblemsthatwearebeingfacedwithrightnow,asdifferentastheproblemsare fromoneanother, itallcomesdowntothewaythatwethinkofourselvesandourrelationshiptoourselves;ourrelationshiptotheEarth,totheworld,tooneanother,ourrelationshiptothepast,ourrelationshiptothefuture.Andthewaywethinkofourselves,thelensthroughwhichweseeourselves,determineshowweaddressallofthosethings.

    Itdoes.Itallcomesdowntothisverydeceptivelysimplyquestion,Jennifer,andthequestion

    isasindividuals,whoarewe?Ascommunities,asaplantImsorry.Asindividuals,whoamI? As communities and a planet, its who are we? The way we answer that questiondetermineshowweregoingtosolveourproblems.Ifourlistenerstonightintheirmindscanenvision an inverted pyramid so the point or the capstone is on the bottom, there is ahierarchyofthinkingthatsometimesconsciously,sometimessubconsciously,thewaythatweanswerthequestionsinthispyramiddetermineshowwesolveourproblems,andhowweliveourlivesfromdaytoday.SoImjustgoingtogothroughthequestionsoflifeinthispyramidbeginningattheverybottom.

    Attheverybottomofthispyramidthequestion is: Wheredoes lifecomefrom?Thatsthe

    firstquestion.Thesecondoneis:Wheredoeshumanlifecomefrom?Thethirdoneis:Whatisourrelationshiptotheworld?Thefourthoneis:Whatisourrelationshiptothepast?Andthefifthoneis:Howdowesolveourproblems?Dowesolvethemthroughcompetitionandconflictorthroughcooperationandmutualaid?

    Thathierarchy,thewaythatweanswerthosequestionsfromthebottom,determineshowwe

    answerthatquestiononthetop.Andthisiswherethebookcomesin.WhenIbeganlookingatwhysomanysystemsarecollapsingandbreakingrightnow,whatIbegantounderstandis

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    theonlysystemsbreakingaretheonesthatarenolongersustainableinthepresenceofthechangingworld.Andthatitisthethinkingandthewaythatwehavechosentoliveourlivesthathasledtothesecollapsingsystems.Andmuchofthatisbasedonwhatwevebeentoldabout ourselves. Weve been led to believe through a scientific paradigm in the westernworld, if we live in the modern world, we are all part of this thinking consciously orsubconsciously,thatsciencehasansweredthesebasicquestions.Newdiscoveriesaretellingusthattheanswersinsomecaseshavebeenincorrect;insomeplacestheyreflatoutwrong.Sothenewdiscoveriesaregivingusnewwaystothinkaboutourselves.Thatsthegoodnews.

    The flipside of the good news is that those new discoveries are not being reflected in

    mainstreamthinking. Theresareluctanceinmainstreammainstreammedia,mainstreamdocumentaries,mainstreamclassrooms,mainstreamtextbooks. Theresareluctance,and insomecasestheresanoutrightresistance,tosharingthesenewdiscoveries.Sotheneteffectis thatwere trying to solve thegreatest crisisof recordedhumanhistory through the samethinkingthatledtothem.Andouryoungpeoplearebeingaskedtosolvetheproblemsthatthis generation is leaving behind. Theyre being confined to the thinking that

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