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Scott MorrisISO PC 251 MeetingCalgary 2013

ISO/CASCO WG 39 - Competencerequ i rem ents fo r aud i t ing andcer t i fica t io n o f ass et m an ag em en ts y s tem s (ISO/IEC 17021-5)

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Overview

• Members of ISO/CASCO WG 39 - Competencerequirements for auditing and certification of assetmanagement systems (ISO/IEC 17021-5) met 25February to 1 March in Geneva

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Overview

• Members of ISO/CASCO WG 39 - Competencerequirements for auditing and certification of assetmanagement systems (ISO/IEC 17021-5) met 25February to 1 March in Geneva

• All members of the working group were alsorepresentatives of PC 251

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Goals of Meeting

• Have a “ready to vote” document by the end of

meeting

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Goals of Meeting

• Have a “ready to vote” document by the end of

meeting

• Ensure that the document addresses the ‘value

realization’ of ISO 55001

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ISO/CASCO

• Presentation from Sean Mac Curtain from ISOwas given to provide an overview of CASCO

• The presentation included the conformityassessment and competency requirements fromthe ISO/CASCO perspective

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Conformity assessment Hierarchy

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Developmentprocess

• First days the working group reviewed the NWIPdrafted by PC251

• Reviewed ISO 55001 section by section todetermine what requirements needed to beincluded

• Content was added and removed

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Developmentprocess• Confusion on audience, applicability and relevant

content of ISO/IEC 17021-5

• With coaching from Sean, Laurent and Charlesthe working group started looking at the documentfrom a certifying body perspective

• What are the key concepts of the 55000 seriesdocuments that needed to be looked at by thecertifying body in relation to auditor competence

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ISO/IEC 17021 and ISO/IEC 17021-5

• ISO/IEC 17021 is the parent document forconformity assessments

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ISO/IEC 17021 and ISO/IEC 17021-5

• ISO/IEC 17021 is the parent document forconformity assessments

• The dash documents provide specific content notcontained in ISO/IEC 17021.

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ISO/IEC 17021 and ISO/IEC 17021-5

• ISO/IEC 17021 is the parent document forconformity assessments

• The dash documents provide specific content notcontained in ISO/IEC 17021.

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Competence requirements forauditing and certification of asset managementsystem

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Developmentprocess

• Compared content in ISO/IEC 17021-5 againstexisting ISO/IEC 17021 document and other dashdocuments

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Developmentprocess

• Compared content in ISO/IEC 17021-5 againstexisting ISO/IEC 17021 document and other dashdocuments

• Removed duplicate content

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Developmentprocess

• Compared content in ISO/IEC 17021-5 againstexisting ISO/IEC 17021 document and other dashdocuments

• Removed duplicate content

• Remaining content was challenged by asking“Does an assessor need to know this content toperform an effective audit?”

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Final DocumentKey sections

• Section 4 - Generic competence requirements

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Final DocumentKey sections

• Section 4 - Generic competence requirements

• Section 5 - Competence requirements for theasset management system audit team and thosereviewing the audit report and making thecertification decision

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Final DocumentKey sections

• Section 4 - Generic competence requirements

• Section 5 - Competence requirements for theasset management system audit team and thosereviewing the audit report and making thecertification decision

• Section 6 - Client business sector

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Final DocumentKey sections 5

• Section 5.2 - Asset management practices,activities and methodologies

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Final DocumentKey sections 5

• Section 5.2 - Asset management practices,activities and methodologies

• Section 5.5 - Client business sector

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Final DocumentKey sections 5

• Section 5.2 - Asset management practices,activities and methodologies

• Section 5.5 - Client business sector

• Section 5.6 - Client products and services,processes and organization

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Developmentprocess - conclusions

• Document was developed with vigorous debatewith all members participating

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Developmentprocess - conclusions

• Document was developed with vigorous debatewith all members participating

• Document is concise and addresses stakeholderneeds

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Developmentprocess - conclusions

• Document was developed with vigorous debatewith all members participating

• Document is concise and addresses stakeholderneeds

• Document is in a “FDIS” condition

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ISO/IEC 17021-5 Development

Questions ?

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Thank You