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Delay in Audit Report Schema for AY 2014-15 as per the
New Form No.3CA, 3CB and 3CD Notification no. 33/2014 on
25/7/2014
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sachin< [email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:24 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected];
Subject: Delay in Audit Report Schema for AY 2014-15 as per the New Form No.3CA,
3CB and 3CD Notification no. 33/2014 on 25/7/2014
Attachments: FW: Changes in e-TDS/TCS FVU version
Importance: High
Dear Sir,
The new formats of tax audit reports namely Form No.3CA, 3CB and 3CD have been notified
through Notification no. 33/2014 on 25/7/2014 with immediate effect.
With regards to the same Today on 19th
Aug 2014 even after 25 days Schema for the Audit
Report not yet release by the department.
There are number of software in the market and require to prepare the utility based on the DIT
Schema. It will also take the 10-15 days to develop error free utility based on the schema.
We have thousands of client all over India and using the software utility, we request you that
before releasing the department utility first schema will be release before 10-15 days for all
software vendor’s in the market so that they will get the proper time and can provide the error
free utility to the clients. Even NSDL also sending the prior mail of NSDL Data Structure before
releasing the New FVU Version. Sample mail from NSDL to all s/w vendor is as attach for your
reference.
As being the due date of Audited Return as 30th
Sept 2014 we request you that The new
formats of tax audit reports be made effective from the Assessment Year 2015-16 and not
Assessment Year 2014-15. Also only existing stable schema will remain as it is up to AY 2014-
15.
Sachin Waikar
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3CB-3CD – Issue in uploading the Audit Report (Schema Error) –
04/09/2013 From: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:05 PM
To: [email protected];
Subject: Form 3CB-3CD filing Error
Dear Sir/Madam,
While uploading Audit Report 3CB-3CD for AY 2013-14 we are getting error ‘XML schema is
invalid.Please upload the XML in the correct format.’
Here enclosing XMl file and Screen shot of the error.
We observed that the file which contains Block of Assets As Building 10% with code in XML as 9 not
uploading while other file getting uploaded successfully.
Please look into the matter and reply ASAP .
With Regards
TaxPro Support
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West of Lata Mangeshkar Musical Park
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ITR-5 – Status Code for LLP not present in Schema Date – 22/08/2013 Reply Received
From: DIT
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:11 PM To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ITR-5 : Status Code for LLP not present in Schema - Date - 22-08-2013
dear mr. sachin
schema is corrected. Please check the same.
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From: Sachin Waikar <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:58 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: ITR-5 : Status Code for LLP not present in Schema - Date - 22-08-2013
Importance: High
Dear Sir/Madam,
First of All there is no Status Code for Limited Liability Partnership Firm (LLP) in Latest Schema Dated :
22/08/2013
As per the Notified Form ITR-5 :
As per the Instruction of Form ITR-5
As per the Latest Schema on Date : 22/08/2013
<xs:element name="StatusOrCompanyType"
default="1" id="PersSec8">
<xs:annotation>
<xs:documentation>Firm is 1, local
authority 2, co-op bank 3,
co-op society 4, any other AOP
5, public company 6, private
company is 7, Others 8(for
FBT)
</xs:documentation>
</xs:annotation>
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction base="xs:token">
<xs:maxLength value="1" />
<xs:enumeration value="1" />
<xs:enumeration value="2" />
<xs:enumeration value="3" />
<xs:enumeration value="4" />
<xs:enumeration value="5" />
<xs:enumeration value="6" />
<xs:enumeration value="7" />
<xs:enumeration value="8" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
Previously also we have send such inconsistency and variation of Status Code for ITR-7 on 02/08/2013
and we have not received any reply of the same.
Such inconsistency and variation of Status Code in Forms create confusion among the users. We
strongly recommend to maintain consistency of the “Assessee Status Code” across all the ITRs,
Instructions and Schema.
Sachin Waikar
Chartered Information Systems Pvt. Ltd.
"Chartered House", West of Lata Mangeshkar Musical Park,
Bhandara Road, NAGPUR - 440008
Ph: +91-712-6638888 (100 Lines), 9225245088
Fax: +91-712-6638899
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Issue in 3CB – 3CD e-Filing Reply Received
From: DIT
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: Issue in 3CB-3CD e-Filing
dear mr. sachin
On the three queries mentioned by you, we are making the changes and soon we will be deploying a
new utility for the same. For remaining two points user has to enter the fields as available in the utility.
He is not required to enter any other field like particulars or particulars type.
From: Sachin Waikar <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:16 PM
To: [email protected];
[email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Issue in 3CB-3CD e-Filing
Importance: High
Dear Sir,
We have the following issues in 3CB-3CD e-Filing
Case-I : How to make the Following entry in 3CB-3CD Utility point 14 provided by DIT
As per DIT Utility , there is Common Column for Addition/Deduction
Case – II : How to give the Details if any in Point 17 of 3CD also Schema and Presentation is varying
As per the Utility
Schema for the above provided as below
<xs:element name="Form3cdExpOth">
<xs:complexType>
<xs:sequence>
<xs:element name="Form3cdExpOthPK">
<xs:complexType>
<xs:sequence>
<xs:element name="ExpenditureType">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction
base="xs:string">
<xs:pattern
value="CAPNAT|PE
RNAT|POLITC|CLBENTR|CLBSER|PENALTY|OTHPENALTY|OFFENCE|INADM40A|I
NTSALBON|GRATSEC40A7|SUMSEC409|CONTGNTNAT|DEDUCSEC14A|AMTINADMSE
C36I" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
<xs:element name="Particulars"
minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction
base="xs:string">
<xs:pattern
value="Salary|Commission|Interest|Remuneration|Bonus" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
<xs:element name="Section"
minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction
base="xs:string">
<xs:pattern
value="Section40b|Section40ba" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
<xs:element name="Amount"
minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction
base="xs:long">
<xs:totalDigits
value="14" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
<xs:element name="Details"
minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction
base="xs:string">
<xs:minLength
value="1" />
<xs:maxLength
value="150" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
</xs:sequence>
</xs:complexType>
</xs:element>
</xs:sequence>
</xs:complexType>
</xs:element>
Case – III : How to give the Details if any in Point 17A of 3CD also Schema and Presentation is varying
as per the Utility provided point is as below
But in Schema the is option for giving ParticularType, Particulars and Amount as below
<xs:element name="Form3cdInadm">
<xs:complexType>
<xs:sequence>
<xs:element name="ParticularType">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction base="xs:string">
<xs:pattern
value="SEC23|SEC40A|SEC69D|SEC40A3" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
<xs:element name="Particulars">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction base="xs:string">
<xs:minLength value="1" />
<xs:maxLength value="100" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
<xs:element name="Amount">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction base="xs:integer">
<xs:totalDigits value="20" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
</xs:sequence>
</xs:complexType>
</xs:element>
There are many such issues in Form 3CD, so refinement is
required in complete Form Design and Schema.
Also it will be very convenient for s/w venders, if there will
be changes in Schema, that changes should be mentioned date wise
or Schema Version wise in a separate File, like ‘Consolidated
Schema & Codes’, with Schema element and the changes made. Due
to lack of such information, it will be very tedious for all s/w
vendors to check each and every element for the schema change.
Even NSDL also sending the prior mail to all s/w vendors before
7 days if any data structure is going to change so that s/w
vendor should be ready for such changes.
Sachin Waikar
Chartered Information Systems Pvt. Ltd.
"Chartered House", West of Lata Mangeshkar Musical Park,
Bhandara Road, NAGPUR - 440008
Ph: +91-712-6638888 (100 Lines), 9225245088
Fax: +91-712-6638899
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Issue with 44AD in ITR
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sachin Waikar
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 12:44 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Issue with 44AD In ITR
Attachments: 2013_ITR4_PR9.zip
Importance: High
Dear Sir/Madam,
We have the Following Issue in ITR-Return for 44AD
Case : Assessee having Nature of Business as Retail Trading - Books of A/c Maintain & Not Audited. In P
& L A/c he has shown the Loss of Rs. -15000. But as per the deemed profit u/s 44AD Tax will be
applicable on Deemed Profit.
But as per the Department Template ( attach with the mail) it showing the Loss in schedule BP and also
carried to Next Year in Schedule CFL as Current Year Losses.
As per our utility Schedule BP can be in the following way . But problem is that schema is not allowing –
ve value in point 4 of schedule BP.
Our issue is in Point 4 of Schedule BP. –ve values should be accepted as per the Schema
<xs:element name="PLUs44sChapXIIG" default="0">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction
base="xs:unsignedLong">
<xs:totalDigits
value="14" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
Please look into the matter and reply.
Sachin Waikar
Chartered Information Systems Pvt. Ltd.
"Chartered House", West of Lata Mangeshkar Musical Park,
Bhandara Road, NAGPUR - 440008
Ph: +91-712-6638888 (100 Lines), 9225245088
Fax: +91-712-6638899
url: www.taxpro.co.in | www.charteredinfo.com | www.businesssms.co.in
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Status Code Issue in ITR-7 AY 2013-14
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sachin Waikar
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected] Subject: Confusion in selecting Status Code for ITR-7 for e-Filing as per DIT Schema and for Hard Copy
Submission as per ITR-7 Notified Form and Instruction
Importance: High
Dear Sir,
As per the Notified ITR-7 form and Its Instruction Status Code is given as below
But as per the DIT Schema for ITR-7, Status is not matching with the Instruction given in notified Form.
As per schema ITR7Master.xsd following is given
<xs:element name="StatusOrCompanyType" default="1"
id="PersSec8">
<xs:annotation>
<xs:documentation>Firm is 1, local authority 2, co-op bank
3,
co-op society 4, any other AOP 5, public company 6,
private
company is 7, Others 8(for FBT)
</xs:documentation>
</xs:annotation>
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction base="xs:token">
<xs:maxLength value="1" />
<xs:enumeration value="1" />
<xs:enumeration value="2" />
<xs:enumeration value="3" />
<xs:enumeration value="4" />
<xs:enumeration value="5" />
<xs:enumeration value="6" />
<xs:enumeration value="7" />
<xs:enumeration value="8" />
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:element>
In this case which Status Code should be write in Return whether as per the Notified Format or as per
Schema. Why Assessee Status Code is varying in Schema of different ITR..??
Sachin Waikar
Chartered Information Systems Pvt. Ltd.
"Chartered House", West of Lata Mangeshkar Musical Park,
Bhandara Road, NAGPUR - 440008
Ph: +91-712-6638888 (100 Lines), 9225245088
Fax: +91-712-6638899
url: www.taxpro.co.in | www.charteredinfo.com | www.businesssms.co.in