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Celebratingthe BestComics ofthe '70s,'80s, and Beyond!

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COVER ARTISTJim Starlin

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FLASHBACK: But I Still Exist! Deadman After Adams . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3The creators that exhumed Boston Brand after Neal Adams celebrated Deadman run, with rareart by Jim Aparo, Jos Luis Garca-Lpez, and Kelley Jones

FLASHBACK: The Many Deaths (and Returns) of Aunt May . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .16Marvels friendly neighborhood Spider-Aunt has flirted with the Grim Reaper since the Silver Age

INTERVIEW: A Chat with Jim Starlin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .21A candid, art-jammed conversation with the writer/artist of The Death of Captain Marvel andcountless other classics

BRING ON THE BAD GUYS: Assassins Redemption: The Arrival, Death, andResurrection of Elektra . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .47Frank Millers sympathetic killer, and her metamorphosis into an enduring Marvel anti-heroine

FLASHBACK: The Death and Resurrection of the Flash . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .55Run for your life, Barry Allen! Comics favorite Fastest Man Alive just couldnt stay dead

FLASHBACK: Dead on Demand: Jason Todd, the Second Robin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .66The tragic tale of the Boy Wonder most fans loved to hate

BACK TALK . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .76Reader feedback on our Spider-Man and Odd Couples issues

The Retro Comics Experience!

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Breaking the BarrierDetail from the cover to Deadman (theminiseries) #3 (May 1986). Art by one of thepostAdams artists most associated with thecharacter, Jos Luis Garca-Lpez.TM & DC Comics.

From a commercial viewpoint, Deadman was a dead-end.For two golden years, the DC Comics series had earnedcritical raves from a devoted core of comics fans but nevermanaged to expand that passion into mainstream appeal.And yet it was, to a great degree, those fans that refusedto allow the ghost of Boston Brand to fade away.

THE EARLY LIFE OF DEADMANCreated in 1967 by writer Arnold Drake, Deadmanwas an unusually adult series about a cynical aerialistnamed Boston Brand who risked his life nightly for thecash-strapped Hill Brothers Circus. Dressed in a red-and-white costume with a skull-like head mask whenhe performed as Deadman, Brand inadvertently madehimself a target. Shot and killed by a mysterious sniperwith a steel claw for a right hand, Deadman survivedas a spirit that could magically inhabit and control thebodies of other human beings. According to circusfortune teller Vashnu, Brand had found favor in the eyesof goddess Rama Kushna, and that Eastern deitypromised Deadman that his supernatural second lifewould continue until he found his killer. Boston Brandsanger over his fate helped define the series and setDeadman apart from DCs more even-tempered heroes.

Published in Strange Adventures #205 (Oct. 1967),Drakes first installment of Deadman was a tour deforce complemented by one of artist CarmineInfantinos greatest art jobs. The assignment coincidedwith Infantinos ascension to a new post as DCs artdirector, and the illustrator tapped a newcomer tosucceed him in #206. His name was Neal Adams.Bringing a hyper-realistic style to the series, Adamsquickly made the series his own, eventually becomingboth writer and artist on the feature in #212.

Much of the series revolved around the circus cast,notably owner Lorna Hill, slow-witted strongmanTiny, and Rama Kushnas disciple Vashnu. Bostonsestranged twin brother Cleveland entered the series in#211, subsequently posing as his sibling in the hopethat a revival of the Deadman circus act would drawout the killer whod been dubbed the Hook.

With the blessing of incoming editor Dick Giordano,Adams resolved Deadmans pursuit of his killer in aclimactic two-parter in Strange Adventures #215216.In short, the Hooks execution of Boston Brand had beennothing more than an initiation exercise to win member-ship in an international Society of Assassins. Duped byCleveland Brands impersonation, the Societys leaderan aged martial artist called the Senseijudged the Hooka failure and personally vowed to kill him in a death duel.

Horrified that he was going to be cheated of hisvengeance, Deadman attempted to intervene and wasstunned when he couldnt possess the Senseis body as hedid others. Now the Hook was dead and Boston Brand

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raged at Rama Kushna over the hollow victory. And whyhad he not ascended to the afterlife? Why did he still exist?Traveling to the secret Himalayan city of Nanda Parbat,Deadman discovered that he once again had a humanbody within its confines and struck a deal with thegoddess. Hed continue to fight evil until finding thefulfillment hed failed to achieve through his killers demise.

The new direction came too late for the series, butDeadman found a refuge of sorts in The Brave and the Bold.Several months earlier in #79, the ghostly hero had metBatman in a memorable story by Bob Haney and Adams.With the relationship established, a secondteam-up seemed appropriate in #86 to tieup loose ends from Strange Adventures. Ina novel touch, Adams created furtherDeadman short stories in 1970sAquaman #5052 and Challengersof the Unknown #74 that were linked

to the lead features in each issue.[Editors note: See BACK ISSUE #45for an article about the odd-coupleteam-up of Aquaman and Deadman.]

The last such exercise took place inJustice League of America #94 (Nov.1971), where Adams illustrated fourpages featuring the Sensei andDeadman in a story written by MikeFriedrich. The episode focused on the Sensei assigningthe assassin Merlyn to kill Green Arrow, but it heldgreater significance in its ingenious dovetailing ofseparate strands of DC Comics lore.

Longtime DC fans associate the League ofAssassins with the Sensei and major Batman adversaryRas al Ghul, and yet neither was affiliated with thegroup in 1971. The Sensei had overseen the Society ofAssassins and Denny ONeils Ras, while the leader ofa vast, vaguely defined organization, would seem tobe, on the face of it, an adversary of the League sinceit was they (at the command of Doctor Darrk) whokidnapped his daughter Talia in the recent DetectiveComics #411. In JLA #94, Friedrich established thatall the villains were part of the same global networkand that the treacherous Sensei and his killers wereostensibly protecting Ras.

DEADMANS NEW GENESISDC continuity may have taken one step forward thanksto JLA #94, but Deadmans personal history took twosteps back in Forever People #9 (JuneJuly 1972).Mystified as to why he hadnt gone on to his eternal restand seemingly no longer capable of possessing bodies,Boston Brand had to rely on former circus charlatanTrixie Magruder to reestablish his link with the mortalplane via a sance. In the process, she revealed thatDeadman was still tied to Earth because the Hook hadnot been his killer. The hook was on his left hand,

she intoned. The man who killed BostonBrand had a hook on his right hand!

The Forever People, youthful visitorsfrom the advanced world of NewGenesis, were moved by Deadmansplight and used their godly technologyto create an artificial body for thehero in issue #10. Described as aFollower, the human shell absorbedbullets and seemed, in its limitedusage, to be immune to harm. The newDeadman was now, incongruously,a hero that couldnt die!

By the early 1970s, there weretwo approaches to creating comicbooks that fans held in higher

esteem than any other. One was the bombasticexaggeration and energy exemplified by Jack Kirbyat Marvel. The other was the more naturalisticperspective of Neal Adams. In Forever People, twoworlds collided and Kirbyits writer/artistbore thebrunt of the criticism.

Kirby had left Marvel for DC in 1970 to create anew series of interrelated books including New Gods.His wish to develop original characters occasionallycame into conflict with DCs desirethrough president

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Prince of WailsAn anguished

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and publisher Carmine Infantinoto have him findfresh approaches to preexisting characters, whetherSuperman, Jimmy Olsen, or Deadman.

Blanching at the very name of the hero, Kirbygrudgingly agreed to do something with thecharacter. Casting about for a new direction, he wasinterested in the opinion of his young assistantMark Evanier that the character lost focuswhen he found his killer. Evanier addedthat the first Deadman story haddepicted the killer as having a claw onhis right arm while the pivotal Hookstory in Strange Adventures #215 hadshown it on his left. That discrepancywas enough to justify reopening theclosed case.

Jack did not disagree, Evanierwrote in Jack Kirbys Fourth WorldOmnibus #3 (2007), but he thoughtDeadman had a greater problem:He doesnt have a body. How can youhave a superhero who doesnt have abody? It meant Deadman kept getting lost in his ownstories. Even when he was there, he was someone else. Heck,he couldnt even punch out a villain, at least as Deadman.Kirby decided to make both changes: Give Deadman asolid form and resume the hunt for his murderer.

According to the letters column in Forever People#11, most of the mail response to the first installment

was positive but the four dissenting readers reallyhated it, objecting to the jarring departure fromAdams art style, the stiff formal dialogue, and theresumption of Deadmans search for his killer.Most ironically, Evanier recalled, the folks in the DCoffice hated it. It wasnt the Deadman they knew

and loved, never mind that Jacks assignmenthad been to change it.

Deadmans new body never appearedagain and the heros last word on thesubject came in 1979s Adventure Comics#464. Some guys built a robot for meonce, he sighed, and that workedabout as well as a concrete wheel.

In anticipation of the Kirbyrevival, DC had reprinted Deadmansorigin and a later Adams story inThe Brave and the Bold #97 and 100.And it was in B&B #104 that thecharacter would return in anothernew adventure, blissfully ignoringeverything that just happened in

Forever People. Batman had been the first costumedhero that Deadman interacted with, and theirfriendship was one that DC faithfully returned toagain and again over the years. This particularepisode found Batman recruiting his ghostly ally tohelp close down a Florida resort that was secretlycreating new identities for mobsters.

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Roving Spirit(left) Deadmans guestshot in Jack KirbysForever People #10(Aug.Sept. 1972)made some readerswish the characterhad stayed dead,while (right) editorMurray Boltinoffresurrected Deadmantime and time againas a Batman teammatein The Brave and theBold, as in issue #104(Nov.Dec. 1972;cover by Nick Cardy).TM & DC Comics.

Jack Kirby

One of the most controversial storylines in recent yearshas been Spider-Mans One More Day. Reeling from theconsequences of exposing his true identity to the worldduring the Civil War storyline, Peter Parker had to goon the run with his family. While hiding out, his belovedAunt May was shot by a bullet that was meant forSpider-Man. I wont bore you with too many moredetails about this story, except to say that Aunt May wouldhave surely died had Peter and his wife, Mary Jane, notliterally struck a deal with the Devil (or Marvels super-villain counterpart, Mephisto) to save Aunt Mays life.

Part of the uproar over this storyline was overMarvels attempt to undo twenty years of continuity andwipe out the marriage of Peter Parker and Mary JaneWatson-Parker. But it also got fans wondering about thechoice that Peter made in sacrificing his own happinessto save the life of his aged aunt, a woman who hadalready lived a full life and who surely would have neverwanted her nephew to give up anything as precious ashis marriage for her sake. The storyline had some fanswondering if perhaps it wasnt time for Aunt May tofinally go into that long goodnight, once and for all.On the other hand, it had other fans realizing just what avital role the character played in the Spider-Man mythos.When you get down to the heart of the matter, Aunt Mayis one of those characters that is simply divisive.

One thing is for certainhad Aunt May died atthe end of this story arc, there is no rule that saysshe couldnt come back. It isnt like Aunt May hasntmanaged to elude the cold, icy grasp of the GrimReaper before. Indeed, I would wager that she hasmanaged to escape certain death almost as manytimes as her web-slinging nephew!

Aunt Mays shaky health has always been a matterof concern for Peter. Her first serious brush with deathcame all the way back in The Amazing Spider-Man #9(Feb. 1964), and the only thing that saved her life atthat time was a blood transfusion from her nephew.While the initial results were positive, the transfusionof Peters radioactive spider-blood proved near-disastrous,as was recounted in Amazing Spider-Man #3133(Dec. 1965Feb. 1966), and once again, May Parkerfound herself at deaths door. In the end, Aunt Maypulled through once again, never caring for herself,but always worrying about her nephew.

Poor Aunt May!Detail from the cover to The Amazing

Spider-Man #178 (Mar. 1978), one of manydepictions of Peter Parkers mother-figure on

deaths bed. Art by Ross Andru and Joe Sinnott. 2011 Marvel Characters, Inc.

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GWEN STACY DRAWS THE SHORT STRAWThe first times that May Parkers life were at risk werenail-biters to be sure, but fans knew that Aunt Maywould be around for some time to come. After all,there was a time when killing off a major character in acomic bookespecially a successful one like The AmazingSpider-Manwas unheard of. But then came one of thegreatest game-changers in comics, Amazing Spider-Man#121122 (JuneJuly 1973), which marked the deathsof Gwen Stacy and the Green Goblin. As it turns out,when Gerry Conway, Gil Kane, and John Romita, Sr.wanted to shake up things a bit in Spideys world,the initial thought was to kill off Aunt May instead ofGwen Stacy. But that was an idea didnt last too long.The conversation I had with John [Romita] aboutkilling off Aunt May lasted maybe ten seconds,says Gerry Conway, former writer on The AmazingSpider-Man. [It went] along the lines of, John: We couldalways kill off Aunt May. Gerry: Lets kill Gwen Stacyinstead. When asked about the decision that mighthave radically altered Spider-Mans entire history as weknow it, John Romita remembers being on board withsparing Aunt May. The thought [of killing her off] wasStans or Roys, recalls Romita. I told Gerry that if wewant to shake up the readers, wed need to have MaryJane or Gwen killed. Since Gwen was Peter Parkers girlat the time, it would be more shocking.

Conway adds, To my mind, Aunt May was integralto the dynamic that made Spider-Man a successfulsuperhero character. She was his connection to reality,the living reminder that With great power comes greatresponsibility. While her character certainly became aclich over the years, Aunt May fulfilled an importantand fundamental role in the Spider-Man mythos, a rolethats not easy to replace. Clichs become clichs for areason: they represent truths that have become sofamiliar they no longer need to be stated, and when theyare stated, the fact of their familiarity undercuts the valueof the truth they represent. People recognize the clichand ignore the truth behind it. Because Aunt Mayscharacter became a clich, readers and creators forgot thetruth she represented: Spider-Mans human connections,his agonizing link to the people in his life, and his needto take responsibility for their happiness, are whatseparates him from other superheroes. Rather than

Mayday!!(left) Aunt Mays first flirtation with theGrim Reaper happened way back inAmazing Spider-Man #9 (Feb. 1964).Story by Stan Lee, art by Steve Ditko.(below) For a brief moment, Aunt Maywas targeted for death for the landmarkAmazing Spider-Man #121 (June 1973).Cover by John Romita, Sr. 2011 Marvel Characters, Inc.

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Like most BACK ISSUE readers, my nostalgia for comicbooks centers on what comics I first read as a child.One of those very first issues was Captain Marvel #25(Mar. 1973), and since then, Ive been a Jim Starlin fan.Even at the age of nine, I could tell differences in the art stylesof comics and Jim Starlins artwork stood out among the rest.

In 1976, comics could mostly be bought at localconvenience stores, and in my case, that was a local shopcalled Store 24 in Lawrence, Massachusetts. Since Mr.Starlin was not working on Captain Marvel in 1976,I was forced to collect back issues from used bookstores,of which there was only one in town. Riding my bike fivemiles to buy back issues at the age of nine left me opento being harassed and even having my bike stolen onseveral occasions. Trying to find a back issue with JimStarlin art was worth the risk, and I managed to find allthe issues he did in the Captain Marvel series.

It wasnt until 1995 in Seattle, Washington that I finallywas able to meet the man who inspired me as a child.

To me, meeting Jim Starlin in person was like meeting thepresident of the United States and I am sure I had comeacross as one of those crazy, awkward fans that everyonehates to be behind in the autograph lines. Stumbling withspeech, I introduced myself to Mr. Starlin, and he quicklybrought me back to reality by taking extra time in retellingthe history behind the making of a Captain Marvel story.

Since that day, I have stayed in touch with Mr. Starlinon and off for 15 years with fan letters and requests forautographs and commissions. Every time I contacted Mr.Starlin, I would always receive a response. This cannot besaid for a large portion of other comics talent I had alsotried to remain in contact with. Mr. Starlin knows what itis like to be a fan and treats his fans the same way hewould want to be treated himself, and this shows in thisinterview. I am very proud to have met and talked withMr. Starlin, and every time I read a Jim Starlin comic orbook, I feel like that nine-year-old child back in Lawrence.

Shaun Clancy

Cruel andthe GangJim Starlins mostfamous villain,Thanos, is confrontedby the artistssignature Marvelheroes in thiscommissioned pencilillustration contributedby interviewerShaun Clancy. 2011 Marvel Characters, Inc.

by S h a u n C l a n c yconducted February 23, 2010

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RALPH BAKSHI PRODUCTIONSCLANCY: Lets go back in time for a moment. I have abook called The Whos Who of American ComicBooks by Jerry Bails. It came out in the 1970s and Istill use it for reference material for all my interviewing.It usually lists the credentials of artists, and some ofthe stuff associated with you I would like to go over,because I didnt know some of this until today. Ihavent looked up your credentials in this book beforetoday, because I thought I knew you so well that I didnt need to. I found it accrediting you with someanimation work at Ralph Bakshi Productions on TheLord of the Rings?STARLIN: Didnt work much on The Lord of the Ringsrather, I worked more on Wizards, [Bakshis] moviebefore Lord of the Rings.CLANCY: Isnt Bakshi the same guy who did Fritzthe Cat?STARLIN: Yes. He did this thing he was gonna callWar Wizards, and they thought better of it and said,You probably dont want the word War in the title.So they named it just Wizards and the moviebombed, the same year Star Wars came out.CLANCY: I remember seeing a documentary on thatmovie, and Ralph Bakshi said that when he went in tosee the studio to ask for more money to finish Wizards,they refused him because they were giving GeorgeLucas money to finish Star Wars. I believe he alsoattributes Star Wars for the less-than-enthusiasticshowing of his movie, although it has become a cultclassic and I have seen it.STARLIN: It was kind of a mess, working on it. It was clearthat he was not gonna have money for the ending, and ifyou watch the movie it ends abruptly. Therere certainscenes that end abruptly. Theres one scene in particularwith a tanktheres some type of characters fighting atankand the next thing you know is, the tank blowsup off-screen. He didnt have money to animate it.CLANCY: Didnt he just colorize over vintage film?It looked to me that it was World War II footage justcolored over.

STARLIN: Actually, I worked on some of thisa lot ofit was director Sergej M.0 Eisensteins footage fromthe 1925 film Battleship Potemkin and other Russianclassics that didnt have a copyright in America atthe time. So what he did was Xerox up a lot ofthe footage and we would go and draw in horns oncertain characters, and it would get sent over toKorea for them to finish animating it. He was tryingto get by on a shoestring budget. [Editors note:The technique of animating over live-action footageis called rotoscoping.]CLANCY: I believe that was the case toward the end ofthe film. Was he half done when you were on board?STARLIN: I think he was more than half done. I camein more to work on The Lord of the Rings. By the timewe got done with Wizards and that, I realized thatanimation was not where I wanted to be.CLANCY:Was it because of [while doing] the painstaking,repetitious, everyday panel-to-panel-type of stuff thatyoud catch yourself daydreaming?STARLIN: No, I didnt do any actual animating. I wasdoing concept drawings and some of the rotoscopetouching-up. They had animators there that wouldtake whatever I did and then put it on a little bitfurther. I didnt do too much. They were really comingto the end. I think I worked there about a month.CLANCY: Was there anyone from comics that you knewalso working there?STARLIN: Yes. Mike Ploog was also working there.Mike actually did a lot of illustrations for the Lord of theRings movie. He stayed with them.CLANCY: That I could see. I can see that art style in theproduction. Did he also do The Hobbit?STARLIN: No Frazetta was working with them onthat, I think.CLANCY: One of my favorite movies is JohnCarpenters The Thing, and Mike Ploog did lots ofstoryboarding for that movie, so I knew he did thattype of thing outside of comics.STARLIN: From what I hear, hes still doing that typeof thing.

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May the Force BeAgainst YouRalph Bakshisfull-length sci-fitoon Wizards tooka box-office beatingin 1977the sameyear George LucasStar Wars premiered.Wizards was beingwrapped duringJim Starlins briefstint in animation,at Bakshis studio. 1977 Bakshi Studios and20th Century Fox.

paying. I was getting paid for piecemeal work. As soonas I quit, they hired Frank Giacoia for a short time, andthen John Romita took over the job.CLANCY: Was Roy Thomas there, too?STARLIN: He was the editor-in-chief. The place was onMadison Avenue by 56th, with a huge room. Stan andRoy had separate offices.CLANCY: Were they the only ones with offices?STARLIN: Oh, yes.CLANCY: Did they have secretaries?STARLIN: Stan had a secretary, and now that youmention it, Im not exactly sure where she sat.[laughter] I cant remember. CLANCY: Was it Flo Steinberg?STARLIN: No. It was a woman named Holly something[Holly Resnicoff, who later married Mike Ploog]. Flo wasgone by then.CLANCY: I had heard that Flo was the most memorableone in that position.

Was everyone in the Bullpen getting along? Was thisthe type of bullpen that was trying to help each other,or was it very stressful?STARLIN: It was pretty laid back. Roy ran a pretty looseship. The only time it got stressful was if somethingcame in late and they had to do a real rush job gettingit outwhich was pretty often.CLANCY: I worked with Roy on Alter Ego. He wasmy editor and he was definitely the type to letyou submit an article and then tell you if it neededcorrecting. Thats the approach he has now. Was hethat way back then?STARLIN: They were expanding the line from abouteight books to 20-something and he was the only onedoing the editing. They brought in Steve Gerber toproofread but Roy was pretty much running the show.A lot of times when I started doing Captain Marvel,I just came in and gave him basically two- or three-sentence plots and hed say, Go ahead with it. I donthave time to read it but if you tell me about it,that would be great.CLANCY: If I remember right, that wasnt your firstpublished Marvel work. It was a horror comic, right?STARLIN: No. Actually, my first work that actuallygot published was a love story inked by Jack Abel andwritten by Gary Friedrich. [Editors note: Were notcertain, but this might have been Wings on MyHeart, from Marvels My Love Story #16 (Apr. 1972).Can any of our readers confirm this?]CLANCY: I forgot about that one. Did it have reprintsin the comic, too?STARLIN: I dont recall.CLANCY: Do you remember accepting that assignment,or was it something you didnt really want to do?Or maybe you jumped at the chance?STARLIN: I wanted to draw anything at that point,I wasnt crazy about doing that kind of thing becausemy women werent all that strong and it involved cars.It wasnt exactly what I wanted to do. The characterswere Tom the truck driver, Dick the dude, and Wendythe waitress.CLANCY: Stereotypes.STARLIN: Alliterate stereotypes.CLANCY: Do you use a lot of reference material or doyou draw straight from the mind?STARLIN: You know, I mustve used reference materialon the cars, but that was about it. Most of the time Ijust sort of sketch it out and work out the figures in thebackground. Im very good at perspective so I veryseldom use reference for that.

INFLUENCESCLANCY: Who were some of your artistic influences?From what I see, the only people that I could come upwith while looking at your work would be Neal Adams,but your style is quite unique. I cant imagine whosework you would emulate at allSTARLIN: Jack Kirby, for sure. Kirby and Steve Ditkothey were my biggest influences by a long shot.

I met Steve Ditko one time when I was about 16.I came to New York for the [19641965] Worlds Fairand made some phone calls, trying to get ahold of himand Kirby, Joe Kubert, and Carmine Infantino, as thosewere the guys whose work I really liked at the time.CLANCY: You lived in Detroit then?STARLIN: I lived in Detroit and hitchhiked out to theWorlds Fair. I actually got a little work there at the Fair.I stayed for a couple of weeks and then tried tohound some cartoonists. Ditko was the only one thatwould see me.CLANCY: At 16, you hitchhiked?

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Of Course, ThisMeans War!An unpublishedpage from an earlyJim Starlin/Al Milgromcollaboration, TheLast Warrior,courtesy ofAnthony Snyder(www.anthonysnyder.com). Jim Starlin.

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INFINITY GAUNTLETCLANCY: Switching back to Marvelwhen you did theInfinity Gauntlet three-volume series [Infinity Gauntlet in1991, Infinity War in 1992, and Infinity Crusade in 1993],did you know how big a hit you had?STARLIN: Silver Surfer was doing well, and I had been broughtback to write that. That just led into the Infinity Gauntlet series,and the storyline just kept growing and growing.CLANCY: Did they ask you to do it or did you approachthem?STARLIN: I probably said, Lets do another one.

We got a lot of editorial resistance. The other editorsdidnt like the books at all. [Executive editor] MarkGruenwald in particular was very adamant that [Marvel]shouldnt be allowing me to do one of these books everyyear, even though they were selling really well. In fact,the last one, Infinity Crusade, they hid the fact from Markthat they were printing it! [laughter] They made up afuture projects list that went around to the editors andmade a point of it to remove [Infinity Crusade] from hiscopy. I didnt know this so one day I came into the officeand [Gruenwald] went, What are you doing these daysnow that youre not doing these [Infinity] things? And Iwent, Well Ill find something. Then I went, What ishe talking about? Then Ralph Macchio explained to methat they were hiding the fact that book was coming out.I thought it was hilarious.CLANCY: It was always my contention that Silver Surfer#50 (June 1991) was what kicked off the foil-cover gimmickfrenzy. Do you remember that raised-foil cover?STARLIN: I think there had been a couple of others outthere first, on X-Men.CLANCY: Issue #50 was also the issue where the Surfer triedto come to terms with the killing of the people on the planetshe had provided to Galactus.STARLIN: Yeah theyd never touched on the fact that heaided and abetted a mass-murderer before. CLANCY: And then you brought back WarlockSTARLIN: Well, actually, there was another writer who wasgonna bring him back, and I freaked out when I heard it.Thats when I brought him into the Infinity Gauntlet series.I couldnt imagine anyone else handling him the way Iwould. I enjoyed it, but if I had to do over again I wouldnthave brought him back.CLANCY: Was there a lot of pressure to bring CaptainMarvel back?STARLIN: No. For the longest time, when Jim Shooter wasthe editor-in-chief, he said, Were never gonna bring himback. That was a good story and the Death of CaptainMarvel graphic novel was still selling. It was only after myblowout with [later editor-in-chief] Joe Quesada that theydecided to bring him back.CLANCY: They tried to have Mar-Vells son Legacy take overthe role.STARLIN: That was something Marvel pushed on Ron Marz.CLANCY: Do you keep in touch with Ron?STARLIN: Yes. He lives about an hour north of me, and wedont see each as much as we used to but we still chatoccasionally. Actually, hes the one who set me up to do thebook on my art with Desperado.

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To Infinity and Beyond!(opposite) A Starlin/Milgrom 2005 commissioncolored by its contributor, Derek Muthart. (right)

Starlins Infinity Gauntlet poster from 1991.Characters 2011 Marvel Characters, Inc.

When writer/artist Frank Miller and editor DennyONeil joined inker Klaus Janson on Daredevil in 1980,the title shifted from colorfully clad villains and gueststars to a grittier take on the characters world. Thisraised the book up from the depths of Marvels secondtier and set the table for the emotionally rich storieswhich followed with the introduction of Matt(Daredevil) Murdocks original love.

Elektra Natchios arrived fully formed in the MarvelUniverse on the pages of Daredevil in late 1980.Miller offered no typical backstory or origin tale, just abounty hunter in search of a murder witness beingprotected by the underworld. But over the course ofthe next 24 months, Elektra would be revealed as a skilledninja assassin and Murdocks first love, his girl.She would die a violent death, one without mercy.And she would be resurrected. Even though she wasntinitially around for very long, her impact still feltimportant and epic, like it mattered.

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The First Cut is the DeepestDetail from the page 8 splash of theminiseries Elektra: Assassin issue #8(Mar. 1987), painted by Bill Sienkiewicz.Courtesy of Kelvin Mao. 2011 Marvel Characters, Inc.

by Adam B e s e n y o d i

TANGLED ROOTSThough her name was oddly misspelled on the cover ofher debut appearance as ElecktraONeil jokinglysuspects the editor needed an editorthere are nomissteps. Elektra emerges just four pages into Daredevil#168 (Jan. 1981), perched on a guywire and unnoticedby Daredevil below. She is accompanied by four thoughtballoonsthe one and only time over her 13-issue arcfrom introduction to death to resurrection that we aregiven direct access to her thoughts. Its what ONeilrefers to as pure comic-book storytelling. Its anapproach that could end up a hindrance in anotherwriters hands, but in Millers its a subtle technique toget the reader to invest in the character.

Turn the page, and the butt of Elektras sai, atrident-like dagger, is knocking Daredevil into near-unconsciousness as the assassin attempts to procurethe same information Daredevil was after momentsbefore. Hearing her voice before blacking out,Daredevil exclaims, That voiceElektra?!

Although we are never given a straightforwardorigin tale for Elektra in these early appearances,Miller does spend the next seven pages chroniclingthe year-long love story between Murdock, thepreDaredevil Columbia law student, and Elektra, theGreek ambassadors daughter-cum-political sciencestudent, and their relationships tragic end.

En route to meeting Elektra for her birthday,Murdock learns that terrorists have taken hostages inthe administration building. Realizing his girl andher diplomat father are the likely targets, Murdockdons a red scarf originally intended as a birthdaygift as his disguise and incapacitates the hostagetakers with Elektras help, but a miscalculation sendsone of the attackers out of an upper-floor window.

Unfortunately, the cops misinterpret the terroristsfall as a hostage execution. Determined to take out thenext terrorist in sight, a police sniper puts three bulletsin Elektras father when he stands in front of a window.

Bridging the death scene and the graveside images aretwo closeup panels that show us that Elektra has changed.We are told she never cries over the loss of her father.But the seeds of the future assassin are planted.

In Greek mythology, Electra is the daughter of KingAgamemnon and Queen Clytemnestra. She encouragesher brother, Orestes, to avenge the murder of theirfather. She also lends her name to modern psychologystheory that a daughter develops a sexual attachmentto her father, called the Electra complex. In aNovember 1981 interview with Peter Sanderson forFantaCos Chronicles Series #3, The DaredevilChronicles, Miller confessed that Elektra wasdesigned around her name, drawing a straight linefrom daddy issues to the pages of Daredevil.

Miller explicitly laid out what is so delicatelynuanced on the pages of the comic when heexplained that Elektra was a young woman who

Making Her Mark(right) The cover toDaredevil #168 (Jan.1981) misspelled thenew characters name.(below) Elektra displaysher proficiency on thisoriginal-art page fromDD #175 (Oct. 1981).Script and breakdownsby Frank Miller, finishes

by Klaus Janson. 2011 Marvel Characters, Inc.

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had her sexual interest centered on her father,and just as she was transferring this to anotherman, her father is killed. That sexual interest is notnecessarily physical, but psychosexual.

The backstory ends with an emotionally damagedElektra leaving Murdock to return to Europe, andDaredevil in the present day coming to alone on theground in a pouring rain. We learn she bandaged hishurt shoulder before fleeing the scene, and Daredeviltells us the first woman he ever loved couldnt survivewithout a purpose.

Later, we see the ruthless bounty hunter defeat atrio of nunchuck-, chain-, and knife-wielding attackerswith the subtlest hint of a smile on her lips and aswaggering Next? when shes done. Shes ultimatelysubdued and Daredevil saves her, employing the sameunique instructions as all those years earlier against theterrorists at college. In the aftermath, they kiss, and asDaredevil walks away, leaving her in the rain, Elektra isfinally able to cry.

That was the last we would see of Elektra in theMarvel Universe until six months and five issues later,except for a single-page appearance in the subsequentissue (#169, Mar. 1981) which further establishesElektras emotional disturbance. She breaks intoMurdocks brownstone and, finding an inscribedtchotchke from his current girlfriend Heather Glenn,she shatters it against the wall.

Though Elektra is visually based on Lisa Lyon, whobecame the first female bodybuilding champion in 1979,Miller clarified in the Sanderson interview that shedoesnt have Lisa Lyons skeleton, shes larger, but shedoes have the detail of a body builder. Physicallyprovocative, dark-haired, and brown-eyed, Elektra is overtlysexual, dressed in crimson and showing a lot of exposedskin. The red scarf she wears on her head suggests atangible link to Murdock and the day her father died.

INVESTING IN A KILLERJust as Elektra was returning to the pages of Daredevil,she could also be found in a ten-page stand-alone tale inthe black-and-white comics magazine Bizarre Adventures#28 (Oct. 1981). This window into what makes Elektratick was written and illustrated by Miller (and editedby ONeil) in what he referred to as an exercise inshort-hand in a 1982 interview with Dwight R. Deckerfor The Comics Journal. Its a story that could have takenplace virtually any time before or between her appearancesin the Daredevil ongoing, and cracks open the door onthis complex character just a little bit further.

Elektra is hired by von Eisenbluth to eliminate awould-be assassin. When her path crosses with the manshe is contracted to murder, Elektra learns that heremployer might be a Nazi war criminal. How she reactshelps further define who she is to the reader. When sheultimately makes the decision to kill her employer afterconfirming his past sins, is it outrage at von Eisenbluthshubris or disgust at her own moral fortitude interferingwith her mercenary aspirations that we see in hereyes? If a woman character is tough and assertive,youre castigated for portraying women as too tough,Miller told Decker. Conversely, if you do a HeatherGlenn or a Sue Storm, youre castigated for perpetuating

Stretching fromDaredevil(left) BodybuilderLisa Lyon, uponwhom Millerbased Elektraslook. (above) Coverof the B&Wmagazine BizarreAdventures #28(Oct. 1981),featuring anElektra solo tale. 2011 Marvel Characters, Inc.

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The Last MileDetail from the cover of The Flash #331(Mar. 1984); art by Carmine Infantino andDick Giordano. At this time, the series wason its last leg, with Crisis on Infinite Earthsand cancellation looming.TM & DC Comics.

by B r e t t We i s s

Barry the Flash Allen died in 1985, in a story calledA Flash of the Lightning appearing in issue #8 ofthe popular, game-changing mega-series, Crisis onInfinite Earths (Apr. 1985Mar. 1986). He died aheros death back when death in the comics actuallymeant something, back when fans still mournedsuch long-dead characters as Bucky Barnes andGwen Stacy.

Before delving further into the famous death of BarryAllen, it behooves me to first discuss his even morefamous birth (or at least his first appearance), whichoccurred in the now-classic Showcase #4 (Oct. 1956),in a story titled Mystery of the Human Thunderbolt!

THE BIRTHEmblazoned with an iconic cover penciled by CarmineInfantino and inked by Joe Kubert, in which Flash isrunning from frame to frame through and then burstingout of a strip of film, Showcase #4 introduced Barry asa police scientist on his lunch break, flipping throughan old issue of Flash Comics, which starred the originalFlash, Jay Garrick. (Barry has since been described asa comics fan several times, including in the 1997graphic novel The Life Story of The Flash and in 2010sThe Flash Secret Files and Origins #1.)

Barry returns to his work station shortly after lunch,and, as luck and coincidence would have it, a bolt oflightning streaks in through a nearby window, dousinghim with chemicals, giving him super-speed. Inspiredby the original Flash, Barry quickly designs a costumeand gets about the business of fighting crime (this waslong before deconstructionism, decompressed story-telling, and the advent of the reluctant hero).

Barrys first foe was the Turtle, who was known asthe Slowest Man on Earth. During the Silver Age ofComics, entertaining as many of the stories were,

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Beginning aLong Run

(left) Barry Allenzipped onto the

scene in the classicShowcase #4

(Oct. 1956), fromeditor Julius Schwartz.

Cover by Infantinoand Joe Kubert.

(right) The Silver AgeFlash #1 resumed

the Golden Ageseries numbering.Cover by Infantino

and Joe Giella.TM & DC Comics.

this was the type of thing that passed for irony (alongwith such contrivances as Lois Lane loving Superman,but not Clark Kent).

Mystery of the Human Thunderbolt! was writtenby Robert Kanigher, with art by Infantino and Kubert.The backup feature was a John Broome story calledThe Man Who Broke the Time Barrier, also illustratedby Infantino and Kubert.

Despite its now-dated use of sheer coincidence asa literary device, Showcase #4 is one of the mostimportant comic books in the history of the medium,helping kick-start the Silver Age. Not only that, itbrought to life one of DCs most endearing and,despite his eventual death, most enduring heroes.

In his autobiography, Man of Two Worlds (HarperCollins, 2000), legendary editor Julius Schwartzrecalled coming up with the idea for revamping theGolden Age heroes for a new audience. The firstthree Showcases flopped, Schwartz said, and wewere at an editorial meeting trying to decide whatto do in number four when I suggested that we tryto revive the Flash, who had died [figurativelyspeaking] with the demise of the other superherotitles (with the exception of Superman, Batman, andWonder Woman).

When asked by his coworkers, who were initially lessthan thrilled with the idea, why he thought a revivedFlash could fly (metaphorically speaking, of course),Schwartz displayed his typical brilliance. I pointed out

that the average comic book reader started readingthem at the age of eight and gave them up at the ageof twelve, Schwartz said. And since more than fouryears had already passed, there was a whole newaudience out there who really didnt know that theFlash had flopped, and maybe they might give it a try.

Editorial director Irwin Donenfeld wisely approvedthe project, and the rest is comic-book history. Flashappeared in three more issues of Showcase (#8, 13,and 14) and was given his own series in 1959. Insteadof beginning with issue #1, as would be customarynowadays, the Silver Age Flash series began with #105(Mar. 1959), picking up the numbering where theoriginal Golden Age Flash series left off.

According to Schwartz, Donenfeld insisted on#105 as a starting point since readers would be moreconfident in the quality of a long-running title thanthey would an untried newbie (this was years beforethe days of collectors and speculators clamoring for#1 issues).

The Showcase comics starring the Flash soldextremely well, as did the fledgling new series,prompting Schwartz and company to update suchclassic characters as Green Lantern, Hawkman, andthe Atom.

The Flash ran (so to speak) from issue #105through its cancellation with issue #350 (Oct. 1985).During his proverbial day in the sun, Barry (the Flash)Allen battled a variety of colorful rogues, worked his

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day job as a police scientist, acted as chairman of theoriginal Justice League (as seen in The Brave and theBold #28, Mar. 1960), married his beloved Iris West,and in general lived the life of a noble, almost perfectsuperhero. His only flaw, it seemed, was his uncannyknack for always running late (again, more SilverAge irony).

The Flash #350 was a double-sized wrap-up to aninfamously long storyline featuring Flash on trial forthe murder of the Reverse-Flash (a.k.a. ProfessorZoom). Written by Cary Bates, penciled by CarmineInfantino, and inked by Frank McLaughlin, the issueends with Flash and Iris reconnecting in the 30thCentury and living happily ever after for awhile.

That cryptic dnouement foreshadowed theevents of Crisis on Infinite Earths, in which Flash, amere month after the reunion with Iris, died savingthe multiverse.

Like Superman, Green Lantern, and other Silver Ageheroes of the DCU (DC Universe), Flash was a paragonof virtue, a whitebread hero with an interchangeablepersonality, a virtual Boy Scout in tights. His foeswhich included such pranksters as Captain Cold,Mirror Master, and Captain Boomerangrobbedbanks, knocked over jewelry stores, and committedother such relatively tame crimes. Their primarymotive, it seemed, was the sheer fun of trying tooutwit the Flash.

Despite some melodramatic stories by RobertKanigher during the early 1970s such as issue #201(Nov. 1970), in which Flash blames himself for thecrippling of a boy, and despite the death of thesupervillain the Top in issue #243 (Aug. 1976),most of the Julius Schwartz-edited Flash adventureswere relatively lighthearted. The Flash was a fun,oftentimes ingenious, plot-driven comic book, but itwasnt exactly Shakespearean in nature.

TROUBLE ON THE HORIZONBeginning with The Flash #270 (Feb. 1979), former Flashartist Ross Andru took over as editor, portending of darkerthings to come. The cover blurb on #270 claimed thefollowing: Starting with this issueFlashs life beginsto change and it will never be the same again!!

Cary Bates, with whom I conversed with via email, waswriting The Flash when Andru came on board. Rossplayed a big part in the radical new direction and tone ofthe book, Bates says. Though I wasnt privy to any discus-sions he had prior to being assigned the editorial reins, I gotthe feeling he had been told to shake things up a bit.

While Bates was intrigued with the notion of anextreme Flash makeover, the editorial transition wasntentirely seamless. It took some doing on my part toadjust to his style of working (he insisted on evengoing over the panel breakdowns with me), Bates says,but because I could see we were venturing into someexciting and unexplored territory with the newapproach, I thought it was worth the extra effort.

In The Flash #275 (June 1979), in a story called TheLast Dance!, darkness of a particularly nasty kind did

Under My Thumb(left) Despite itswhimsy, the blurbon the Rich Buckler/Dick Giordano coverof Flash #270 (Feb.1979) warned ofimpending doom.(below) Giordanoscover to issue#275 hinted atthe shock awaitingreaders inside.TM & DC Comics.

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Boy Wonder, Six Feet UnderDetail from Mike Mignolas cover to BookThree of the 1988 DC Comics shocker, ADeath in the Family, from Batman #428.TM & DC Comics.

by Ch r i s F r a n k l i n

Juvenile delinquent.Boy Wonder.Murder victim.Villain.

All of these describe the character of Jason Todd, the secondRobin, the Boy Wonder. Jason was a controversialcharacter from his introductionfrom his criminalpast, to his brash actions, to his death at the hands ofnot only the Joker, but also real-world fans that votedfor him to perish. Recently, he returned, a shockingmove that divided fans on its merits.

But Jason wasnt always such a roguish character.Once upon a time, he was a nice, young, circus aerialist,very similar to his predecessor, Dick Grayson. The JasonTodd who died and rose again to bedevil Batman andcomics fans was not the same character that originallywore the red, green, and gold of the second Robin.

These were two very different takes on the samecharacter, created within just four years of eachanotheran odd occurrence, even for the ever-evolving world of comics. The real-world origins ofJason Todd are perhaps even more compelling thanthe diverse fictional versions.

THE DYNAMIC DUO RETURNSIn the early 1980s, under writer Gerry Conway andeditor Dick Giordano, everything old was new again inDC Comics Batman titles. Long-forgotten elementsof Batman lore were brought back for new readers toexperience. The vampiric Monk, the Dirigible of Doom,and Vicki Vale were just some of the concepts revived byConway in tales that spread across Batman and DetectiveComics, essentially making one biweekly Batman comic.Amidst this revival was a reunited Dynamic Duo,separated for more than a decade when Robin, a.k.a.Dick Grayson, was sent off to college. Things werentquite the same as before, with tensions arising betweenBruce (Batman) Wayne and his ward for the first time.These tensions were also picked up on in Robins otherregular berth, the mega-popular New Teen Titans,by Marv Wolfman and George Prez.

There was no denying the popularity of TheNew Teen Titans. It was DCs number-one sellerat the time. But Dick Grayson, the team leader,the very lynchpin of the group, was not completelyWolfmans and Prezs to explore. As the Titansgrew in popularity, a call upstairs into seniormanagement brought an end to Dick Giordanosbrief tenure as Bat-editor. In a fortuitous movefor all involved, the Batman titles came underthe stewardship of Len Wein, who was alsoediting Titans.

Conway was no stranger to the frustrations ofcreators on team books dealing with characters theydidnt own. He had long been the writer of DCsflagship team, the Justice League of America, a teamcomposed mostly of characters with their own titlesand respective creative teams.

So Conway suggested a radical solution that wouldsolve the Robin problem: create a new one.

THE FLYING TODDSConway believes it was he who initiated the idea ofa new Robin for Batman, which would leave DickGrayson free to fly away fulltime with the Titans.

But was that Conways plan all along, or did the writermean to stick to the status quo with Batman and Robin?

Yes and no, Conway answers. Id been a fan ofthe original [Batman and Robin] team all my life, but Iwas also aware that Robin had taken on a life of hisown in Teen Titans that prevented Dick Grayson frombeing fully engaged in the Batman titles. So I knewthere was going to be a structural and creative problemwith the Batman/Robin dynamicso to speak.

There were two possible solutions, given that TeenTitans had become such an important title for DC,and given Dick Graysons prominent and integral role inthat team. Solution One: Drop Robin from the Batmantitles as a regularly appearing character. I didnt want to dothat because I felt, at the time, that the relationshipbetween Batman and his younger partner was crucial tothe appeal and structure of the series. (I dont feel that waynow, but this was a different time, before the Frank Millerversion of the Dark Knight took ascendancy.) SolutionTwo: Introduce a new Robin. I went for Solution Two.

When asked if this notion of a new Robin met anyresistance from anyone within DC, Conway offers,Surprisingly little. And what of Titans creatorsWolfman and Prezhow did they feel about thisproposed solution?

I think Marv was probably delighted to haveDick Grayson as a fulltime Titan, Conway says.I know, if our situations had been reversed, I wouldvebeen. Though since were both fanboys at heart,he mightve felt Jason Todd was a desecration of thecharacter. Truth is, I was ambivalent about Jasonmyself, as a fan, but as a writer I did what I neededto do to solve the problem I perceived.

But who would be the new Robin? In Batman #357(Mar. 1983), by Conway, Don Newton, and AlfredoAlcala, Dick reconnects with some of his old circusfriends and witnesses a performance by the Flying Todds,consisting of Joseph, Trina, and their fair-haired,12-year-old son, Jason. Dick wonders, why doeslooking at them send a chill up my spine?

The Sloan Circus, home to the Todds, is the target ofan extortion scheme, engineered by rising crimeboss KillerCroc. Now the setup is complete. The classic origin ofRobin was being retold, but this time, with new players.

Did Conway intend for this obvious connectionto the past?

Absolutely, Conway reveals. For good or ill, one ofthe things I like to do when I take over a character on aregular basis is to return him to his origins, if I can.First of all, thats because its usually the original versionof a character that first appealed to me as a reader,and I always try to write what I liked to read when Ifirst discovered comics (hopefully filtered through anymature insights I mightve gained along the way).Secondly, I believe comic-book superheroes, at theirbest, tap into a universal, unconscious iconic set ofimages, kind of Jungian archetype. If a character issuccessful over a period of time, its because the originalcreators touched something primitive and true. I believethe best way to recapture that original, primitive truth isto return to the source, and try to recreate the originalarchetype. If only it were that easy, though

Over the next few issues, this plot plays out:Batman and Robin pursue Killer Croc, and Trina Toddstumbles on Bruce and Dicks secret identities. She and

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First EncounterDick Grayson spiescircus aerialist Jason

Todd for the firsttime on page 10of Batman #357

(Mar. 1983), by theGerry Conway/Don Newton/

Alfredo Alcala team.TM & DC Comics.

Joseph are enlisted to help track Crocs men. They trailone to the reptile house of the Gotham Zoo, andencounter not only Croc, but also Gothams assembledunderworld. Tragedy is about to repeat itself oncemore in the Batman legend.

FIRST FLIGHTDetective Comics #526 (May 1983) celebratedBatmans 500th Detective appearance in style. Adeparting Conway, with Newton and Alcala, crafts a

memorable tale, where Batman and hisallies face all of Batmans rogues, plusKiller Croc, who compete to kill theDarknight Detective first. A con-cerned Jason spends the night atWayne Manor, while Dick searchesfor the whereabouts of Todds par-ents. Dick (as Robin) finds theremains of the Todds in the GothamZoos reptile house, their bodies sur-rounded by crocodiles. The grislyscene is kept mostly off-camera, butthe implications are chilling.

Meanwhile, oblivious to thehorrific fate of his parents, Jason Todd explores WayneManor in search of a midnight snack. What he findsinstead is the secret entrance to the Batcave. Jason

uncovers a world of wonder, and a closet fullof spare Batman costumes. Jason quicklydeduces the identities of the Dynamic Duo.

Jason then finds a chest full of costumes most of them Robins, from when he

was a kid a kid. Heck, Im in troubleanyway, right? And so Jason dons the

familiar costume of Robin for the firsttime.

Well, not quite familiar. In a largepanel, Jason stands in a new costume,composed of spare parts and old circusoutfits. Its long-sleeved red top and

trunks, taller boots, and green leggingsand half-cowl make this a nice,modern updating of the Robin suit,minus some of the design elementsthat have elicited snickers by folkswith little respect for the character andthe more innocent time period in

which the original costume was designed.Was this new costume, designed by Don Newton,

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Robin 2.1Jasons first Robinsuit, from DetectiveComics #526(May 1983).By Conway,Newton, and Alcala.TM & DC Comics.

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