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I . , ) ijtbt j lllntbl~ @a 1 d t t n f the •• o t ll nhitillnal jJmml l rtalitl1 EDITED BY T H E SEOR E TARY. \z z l ldatil l n . " Pos t al L ldd1'e ss - CYRUS E. B ROO KS, The Li nk , Ma l o ern , " The Wages of Sin is Death ; but the gift o f God is Ete r nal L i fe hrough J e sus Chr i s t o ur L or d. " N o . 5 . v e r , IV. PR ICE O N E PE NNY F E BR U ARY, 18 81 . TABLE OF CON T EN T S. PAGE. The Truth abo u t H e ll " Hi s Sou l wit hi u Him" Giant s -An c i e nt a nd Mod e rn .. A Lesson-J udges viii. 4 - 17 . . . " Th e Lord Him se lf sh a ll de s c e nd ." N ot es a n d News M e mb e rs ' Be r ea n Class Correspondence E x tract s C orr es pond e nce . .. Q u estio n and An s w e r Church and M i ss ion N e ws . . . N OTICE S TO C OR RESP O NDE NTS . Th e A ssocia tion , a s s u c h , i s not com mi tt e d to a ll th e vi e ws e x p resse d n t hese p ages , r e s p ons i b i lit y f o r art i c l es an d l e tt e r s r es tin g s ol el y o n th e wri te r s th e m se l ves. I N SE ND I NGCOpy, w r it e o n on e si d e o n l y. D o no t r ol l , b ut fo l d i t. If d ecl i ned, se nd s t am p s for r et urn. Co m m un i cation s for n ex t i ss u e cannot be r e ce i v e d l at e r t h a n t h e f o l l ow in g d a t e s : - A rt i c l es, 3 rd in st . ; New s , 12th; A d ve r t i s e m e nt s , 1 5th . AD VE RTI SEMENT H ARGES -F o u r lin es a nd und e r (3 0 w ord s ) 1 s . E ac h a d d itiona l l i ne 3d . D i s pla q ed - s - i », 6 d . pe r i n ch , sin g l e co l umn . S i x in se rtion s cha r g e d a s f i ve. A verage Month l y Circul a i o n n ea r 3 , 0 0 0 c o pi es. RA TE S O F SUBSC R I P T I O N -One c opy 1 s . 6 d . p e r a nn u m, po s t fr e e . Two copi es 2s. 6d . Fo ur c o p i e s , up wa rds, p o s t fre e a t 1 s . pe r ann u m p e r c opy. 70 71 7 1 72 72 7 3 74 77 78 78 7 9 CONDITIONAL IMMORTALITY ASSOCIATION, CONS TI T UTI ON .-1 s t. An Indi v idu a l U ni o n of Ch ri s tian Be l i e v e r s, w h o ho ld Immort a lity a n d Et e rn a l Li fe to b e r ece i v ed on l y t h rou g h perso na l un i o n with th e Lord Jes u s C h r ist . 2 nd . A Col l ect i v e Union of Chri s tian Chur c h es a n d Mi ssions, wh ose t ea ching i s in h a rmony with th e a bov e . Su c h Be l i e v e r s , C hur c h es , & c ., r e t a i n in g th e i r (oth e r wi se ) di s tincti v e ten e t s and de nomin ati ona l c u s t o m s a nd u nion s . PURPO SE .-To b ea r witn ess to th e n e g l ec t ed Bible Truth s of The L i fe a n d Ad v ent , but e s p ec i a l l y o f th e former. A G ENC I ES . -P ubli ca tion s , Lecture s , Addr ess e s , Bib l e -R e adin gs , Con - f e r e n ce s , a n d C ol portage . SUB S CR I PTIONs .- Li je Mem b e rs a s ' ingle s ub s cripti o n o f F i v e P o und s . annual T wo S hi l l i n gs and Si x p e nc e. MI SCE L LA NE ous .- Ca rd s o f Mem b ers hip are furn is h ed a nnu a ll y on r ece i pt o f Sub sc ri p tion. T wo c opi es of t he o f fi ci a l o r ga n, T h e Bi bl e S t a nda r d, are p o s te d m o n t hl y to each M e m ber, an d one co p y to ea c h A ssoc i a te . T h e A n n u a l Meeting i s he J d in so m e co n ven i e n t ce ntr e , a t whi c h a l l Me mb e r s (but no t A ssoc i ates ) h a ve a v ote. No pr ox i es a r e a ll owe d . Th e a nnu a l s u bsc r i pti on is du e t we l vemo nth s f ro m th e dat e of t h e pr eu ioue payrnen t , o f w hi c h no ti ce w il l be g i ve n b y se n d in g th e B i bl e S to mdar d . o f t h a t m o nth i n c a l ored w rap pe r , w h e n i t i s h o p e d a n e a r l y r e mitt a nc e w i l l be ma d e t o th e S ec r e t a r y . I t i s much to be de- s ir e d that, w her eve r pr acticab l e, a n cca s i o n a l Donat i o n s hou l d b e giv e n in addition t o the a nnu a l (o r li f e) s u bs c r iption . N . B . -A ll commun ic at io n s sh o uld b e a d d r ess ed t o th e S e c r e t a r y, who wi ll a l s o s uppl y orde r s for t h e Li t e ra tur e of t h e A sso ci atio n . In o r de r - in g th rou g h a l o ca l book s el l er - w hi ch yo u are re qu este d t o do w h e n eve c o n ve ni e nt-k i ndl y g iv e o nly th e n a m e a nd addre ss of th e L o ndon B o ok - A g e n t - F . Sout h we ll, 27 , I vy -l a n e, City . Th e Co n fe r e n ce R ep o rt and A n nu a l S t ate m en t , for 1 880, w il l b e s u pp l i e d free to a ll new mem- b er s , a l s o a l ist of pub l ications . C YRUS E. BROOKS, S e cretary, The Link, M alvern.
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EDITED BY THE SEORETARY.

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Postal Lldd1'ess-CYRUS E. BROOKS, The Link, Maloern,

" The Wages of Sin is Death; but the gift of God is Eternal Life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

No. 5. ver, IV. PRICE ONE PENNYFEBRUARY, 1881.

TABLE OF CONTENTS.

PAGE.

The Truth about Hell

" His Soul withiu Him"

Giants-Ancient and Modern ..•

A Lesson-Judges viii. 4-17 ...

" The Lord Himself shall descend."

Notes and News

Members' Berean Class

Correspondence Extracts

Correspondence ...

Question and Answer

Church and Mission News ...

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THE TRUTH ABOUT HELL.

By J. C. AKESTER.

THE word hell occurs twenty times in the New Testament. In the

Greek, three words are used, having very different significations, but

rendered mostly in our translation by the word Hell; a word that has

become, by the inflated preaching of the day, of such an awful, ominous

character, and conveying a meaning of such terrible import, that I feel

bound to quote every passage in full, so that the truth, as taught by

God in His word, may be seen, and His character vindicated from one of

the foulest aspersions that the devil has ever cast upon it. The three

words used are, Gehenna, Hades aud Tartaros, Gehenna is translated

"Hell" nine times, and" Hell-fire" once. Hades is translated "Grave,"

twice, and "Hell," eleven times. Gehenna is the equivalent of the

Hebrew word Ghe-Hinmom; or valley of Hinnom, (Josh. xv. 8.), the

scene of the Moloch worship. The name was not derived from the

worship of Moloch, but from the latter use of the valley for burning the

refuse of the city of Jerusalem, also the bodies of criminals, &c. by fires

kept constantly bnrning.

If it was intended as a figure of the eternal hell of the theologians, it

failed entirely, as it was only the carcases and not living bodies of ani-

mals, &c. that were cast into it, see also Isa. !xvi. 24.

The following passages are those in which the word Gehenna is used:

Matt. v. 22, "Shall be in danger of Gehenna fire." Matt. v. 29-30,

"For it is profitable for thee, that one of thy members should

perish, and n9t that thy whole body should be cast into Gehenna."

Matt. x. 28, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not

to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able -to destroy both

and body in Gehenna." Observe, the idea here, is not keeping the li

body in eternal torture, but d.estroying both it and the sonl,-the lif

1Jfatt. xviii. 8, Mark ix. 47, "Wherefore if thy hand or foot offend

cut them off, and cast them from thee; it is better for thee to enter

life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be

into everlasting fire. And if thine eye offend thee pluck it out, andit from thee; it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, ra

than having two eyes to be cast into Gehenna fire." This passage sh

that everlasting fire, and Gehenna are synonymous. IJIatt. xxiii. 15,

make him twofold more the child of Gehenna than yourselves. IJ

xxiii. 33, Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape

damnation, (Greek Kriseos, condemnation, and in all other passa

where this word occnrs), of Gehenna ?" Mark ix. 43. and 45. are para

passages to Matt. x. 28.; Luke xii. 5, to Matt. x. 28. Jas. iii. 6, "

th~ tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity; so is the tongue among

members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the co

of nature; and it is set on fire of Gehenna."-Hades is the equiva

Greek word for Sheol, which denotes a hollow abyss, or cavity, as

the English word" Hell," and "·Hole,"-Germlln, "Halle," and "Houl

Dr. Young in his Anylitical Lexicon, gives as the meaning of "Sheo

the unseen state. Sheol is variously translated in the A. V.,-"hell.

Ps. ix. 17. Num, xvi. 30.-" pit." Gen. xlii. 38.-" grave." Its us

the word of God wonld lead to the conclusion that it is a state or

dition, rather than a place or locality; the following are the places wh

it occurs, Matt. xi. 23, Luke x. 15, "And thon Capernaum, which

exalted unto heaven, shall be brought down to Hades." Matt. xvi.

"And upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades s

not prevail against it." Luke xvi. 23, "In Hades he lifted up his eye

Acts ii. 27, 31, "Because thou wilt not leave my soul in Hades, neit

wilt Thou suffer Thy Holy One to see corruption." Rev. i. 18, "A

have the keys of Hades and death." Rev. vi. 8, "And Hades follow

with him." Rev. xx. 13-14, "And death and Hades delivered up

dead which were in them, and death and Hades were cast into the l

of fire." A careful perusal of the above passages ought to convince

most bigoted, that the eternal torture of the lost, is not taught in any

them; the last passage especially proving the contrary, for in it we

told, that death and Hades, (hell according to the common translation

gave up the dead, that were in them, not the souls that were in tortu

in the latter place; again, they are both said to be cast into the lake

fire, so that if Hades be hell, we have the absurd statement, that i

cast into itself.

Turtaros, 2 Pet. ii. ± , "For if God spared not the angels that sinne

but cast them down to =Tartaros." Bullinger says,-" 'I'artaros is

Sheolor Hades, where all men go in death. Nor is it where the wic

are to be consumed or destroyed, which is Gehenna. Not the abode

men in any condition. It is used only here, and here only of the ang

that sinned, see Jude vi. It denotes the bound or verge of this mater

world. The extremity of this lower air,-of which Satan is the prin

Eph. ii. 2, and of which Scripture speaks as having 'the rulers ofdarkness of this world,' and, 'wicked spirits in aerial regions.' 'Ta

taros' is not only the bound of this material creation, but is so called fr

its coldness." That there is a place of punishment is plain from su

Scripture as JlIatt. xxv. 4.; 2 Thess. i. 9.; Rev. xx. 11-15. That punis

ment is according to works. Luke xii. 47-48.; Rom. ii. 12-16. "Th

punishment will have an end." 1 Cor. xv. 24-28. "The devil hims

shall be destroyed," Heb. ii.' 14.15. .,And all his works," 1 John iii.

'I'he outcome of which will be, a kingdom worthy of God,-ushered

*For a. complete exposniou of this passage, read "The Rioh Ma.n end Laearu

Bd. by W. A. Hobbs, 11 Oondiuoual Immortality ASBO cia.tion "

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by a new creation,-the glory of which the wildest fancy of man never

pictured. A word or two as to the meaning of" everlasting punishment,"

in Matt. xxv. 46. I would urge that it is the results that are everlasting,

not the act. The same word is used in connection with Redemption,

Heb. ix. 12,-Salvation, Heb, v. 9,-Judgment, Heb. vi. 2. But no ono

would contend for a moment that each of these would go on for ever, no!

Salvation has taken place, Redemption and Judgment will, and the

results will be everlasting.

Reader, is your name written in the" Lamb's book of life"? If not,

ponder, deeply aud thoughtfully these words,-"And I saw a great white

throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the

heaven fled away; and there was no place found for them. And I saw

the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened;

and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead

were judged of these things, which were written in the books, according to

their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and

death and hades delivered up the dead that were in them; and they

were judged every man according to their works. And death and hades

were cast into the lake of fire; this is the second death. And whoso-

ever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of

fire." Rev. xx. 11-15.

"HIS SOUL WITHIN :HIM."

By RD. PHILLIPS.

MR. F. W. GRA.NT,in his work" Life and Immortality," has made a

great deal of these words, which occur in Job xiv. 22. "But his flesh

upon him shall have pain, and his soul within him shall mourn." He

prints the sentence thus,-" His soul within him; " and insists upon it,

that these words prove that Job considered man to be a soul dwelling

within a body. "Should it be," he asks,-confident, apparently, of no

one being able to answer him,-" his creature within him," "his person

within him," "his life within him," "his desire shall mourn," "or

what?" Now such language as this from one who can quote Hebrew is

inexplicable, and shows either gross ignorance of the original, or culpable

carelessness in not consulting it; for one is loth to think that he could

be guilty of downright dishonesty in taking advantage of what he knew

to be a mistranslation.

That this passage is wrongly rendered may, I think, be made apparent

to those who. do not understand the original. The first thing that

strikes one on turning to this, is that the English words "upon him,"

and "within him," are the translation of one word, alaiv. The

word means, "upon him or it," or "over him or it"; and the whole

passage (aph b'saro alaiv yikhav v'naphsho alaiv teval) should be read,

Su1'tly his flesh is pained over it, and his soul, (i.e. he himself,) 11l0'U1'?tS

OVe?' it; the it being, most probably, the fact of his having to die, as

stated iu v. 20. Exactly the same construction is found in Hosea x. 5.

"Ri aval alaiv amm? ookhinaraiv alaiv yaghiloo). "For the people

thereof shall mourn over it, and the priests thereof that rejoiced on it"

or over it. Grammar and analogy,-the grammar and analogy ofScripture therefore, are against Mr. Grant.

In each of the following texts, I have translated the Hebrew word

nephesh by the English word soul, by which word our translators have

rendered it in tha above passage, and in most of the other instances of

its occurrence; understanding by this word, an immaterial and immortal

entity. In the following instances, the Hebrew word has been rendered

by pronouns, and "liIe,"" self." "appetite." Had they translated it as

below, it would ha ve been. a rude shock to many who are accustomed

to read their own meaning, into. Scripture; instead, o~ trying to get

God's. meaning out of U,

The passages in question must present considerable difficulty to tho

who, like Mr. W. F. Grant, imagine that man is a soul living inside

body. Fortunately for them, but uufortunately for the truth, the dif

culty has been in great measure concealed from them by our translation;

the more exact rendering of the original being relegated to the margin

that is, where it has been given at all, for in some instances no secon

reading has been furnished us. No fault is to be found with the tran

lation of these texts, as the real meaning of the original has been correctlgiven; indeed, had our translators rendered the word nephesh where

occurs elsewhere, as correctly as they have done in these places, a va

amount of misconception would have been prevented. Still it wou

certainly b~ desirable that the more literal rendering should in all cas

be inserted in the margin.

Num. xxiii. 10, "Let my soul die the death of the righteous."

Judges xvi. 30, "And Sampson said, Let my soul die with t

Philistines. "

Job xviii. 4, "He teareth his soul in his anger."

Job xxxi. 39, "If I have eaten the fruits thereof without money,

have caused the owners thereof to lose their soul."

Job xxxvi, 14, "Their souldieth in youth."

Ps. cv. 18, "Whose feet they hurt with fetters: his soul was laid

iron." The Church of England prayer book version of the psalms h" The iron entered into his soul."

Pro». xiii, 8, The ransom of a man's soul are his riches."

P7·OV. xiv. 10, "The heart knoweth the bitterness of its soul."

Prov. xxiii. 2, "If thou be a master of soul."

Isia. v. 14, "Wherefore hell hath enlarged her soul, and opened h

mouth without measure."

Isia. xlvi. 2, "Their souls are gone into captivity."

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GIANTS-ANClJ~NT AND MODERN.

ByW. J.

THA.T there is nothing new under the sun, may truly be said, when

compare the days in which we live with the days of Noa

"There were giants in the earth in those days," (Gen. vi.

and it may truly be said there are giants in these days, t

only difference being that those were physical, and these are intellectual

The Word clearly points this out to ns; in 1Tim, we have the ter

"The latter times," but in 2 Tim. iii. 1, "The last days," a ter

referring more particularly to the end of this age, and we are told

verse 2, "men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boaster

proud, &c." How is it that man, a fallen creature, can be all this, a

even think himself immortal? It is because knowledge puffeth u

iutellectuality is the cause of this self-exaltation that characterises m

in these last days, just as through physical power in the days of Noa

We have the Lord Himself testifying (Luke xvii.) that" as it was in t

days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of Man," a

when we contemplate the painful fulfilment of what is predicted of t

last days, it surely speaks to us that the days of the Son of Man

very near at hand.

In the Antediluvian period, when the sword of government was n

put into man's hand, Satan could not be the ruler of the darkness

the world, in the way he now is, for there were not then governmenta

powers to corrupt ; it was only power over the inferior creatures th

was entrusted to Adam, for we find no trace of the sceptre or the sw

among men as ruling over or subject to one another till the days

Noah, then it was that that principle was established, "whoso shedde

man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed" (Gen. ix. 6. ) Man had

be tried without Law for having broken one law; he was leIt to manife

what was in, his heart; and how these 16,56 years (i.e. from A.!1am

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schools. The priestly party have entirely failed, in their effort made in

the Senate, to secure their restoration. As an illustration of the de-

basing tendency of image-worship, we may add the complaint of one of

the school-children-when the police were removing the plaster f igures

-" They have taken away the good God, and what shall we put in its

place." This needs no comment-a plaster crucifix" the good God."

_We extract the following report of a recent meeting from an

American paper. The leading speakers were the Rev. Henry Ward

Beecher, and Col. Robert Ingersoll, a noted Infidel Lecturer :-" Albert

Dagget was called upon to preside, but he gave way to Henry Ward

Beecher, who said: 'The man who is to speak to you to-night is not to

speak in a conveuticle or church, but he is one who has done valuable

things for the right without variableness or shadow of turning. In the

name of common humanity and true faith and true liberty I give him

the right hand of fellowship.' Mr. Beecher turned to Mr. Ingersoll,

took his hand, and both bowed, while the audience applauded the

tableau. 'I'hen Mr. Beecher said that Mr. Ingersoll was the most

brilliant speaker of the English tongue in any land on the globe. As

underneath the brilliancy of the flame are solid coals of fire, so under-

neath the lambent fire of his wit there are imperishable living coals of

soundest truth.

"Iugersoll felt awkward, apparently, at such a gushing stream of

praise from the Plymouth pastor, and as he arose he seemed to meditate

revenge. He worked his lips, wiped the beads of perspiration off his

brow, and seeming to wink at the reporters, said: 'The world waited

thousands of years for Henry Ward Beecher, and the world will wait a

long time for another.' Then Mr. Ingersoll dashed off into a speech.

Later on Mr. IngersoU, turning to Mr. Beecher, said: 'I want to thank

you that your intellectual horizon is large enough, your sky broad

enough and studded with stars enough to enable you to grasp the hand

of a man in the cause of humanity, however much he disagrees with

you.' Upon this there was another tableau and great cheering. At the

close of the love feast NIl'. Beecher obtained a vote of thanks for

Ingersoll, and Ingersoll got three cheers for Beecher."

We are glad that all Christian people are not in this like the above

rev. gentleman. That some still cherish regard for the honour of their

Master, and the Truth of God. AMember of our Association, Mr. Allen B.

Magruder, of Virginia, has challenged this bold blasphemer to public

discussion, as to the truth of Holy Writ. Or rather, to be exact, he

has accepted the challenge of Col. Robert Ingersoll, and undertaken to

prove the Bible to be the Word and Will of God. As he will have to

. discuss with one of the keenest wits and most eloquent speakers of

America, he will need an interest in the prayers of Bible-lovers.

_" Man's Only Hope of Immortality." We have secured a parcel of

this valuable pamphlet from Canada, and can post it free for fourteen

penny stamps sent direct to us-Cyrus E. Brooks, the Link, Malvern.

It is a'u unanswerable argument for the total unconsciousness of the

death-state, founded upon the conversation between our Saviour and

the Sadducees (Luke xx. 27-38). The work is published at 25 cents.

(1/01) in Canada, so that it is purely in the interests of our readers that

we offer to furnish copies on the terms stated.

Malvern, Jan. 10.-EDITOR.

MEMBERS' BEREAN CLASS.

[Under this heading we devote a portion of our space sto.tedly to the use of Mt:11tbers ofthe AS8ociation,-to whom it will be confined,-for the purpose of mutual help.Our own part will simply be that of receiving and selecting correspondence, andplacing it in the most suitable form before our readers. Three things we requirefrom all contributors :-1. Brevity j 2. Simplicity; 3. Charity.-ED. OFB. S. ]

THISmonth we confine ourselves exclusively to the replies received in

answer to the suggestion of the Rev. H. B. Murray, that we should

invite correspondence on Mark ix. 49 :-" FO' evel'y one shall be

with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt." For his a

see January issue.." l'URIFIEDBY FIRE," page 6 ,1 , .

REPLY BY GENERAL H. GOODWYN.

With reference to Mark ix. 49, I remark that the context m

observed. The Lord, in addressing Jews, drew their attention

"meat offering" of Lev. ii., in order to illustrate His precept.

true force of the passage is, " For everyone shall be salted TOor F

fire [of the altar], even every sacrifice shall be salted with salt."

word "pas," in Greek, may mean everyone person, 01' everyone

and the word for "fire" is, in the dative, " puri." The Greek co

tion, "gar," FOR, relates to the words of Divine morality, where

Lord had been enjoining the observance of moral purity, at the cos

of the" hand," the" foot," or the" eye." Salt was the emblem

corruptness, as instituted of God; and to the significancy o

emblem the Lord refers, enjoining a life of sacrificial. purity, wo

the altar of God. (Rom. xii. 1-2. Leo. ii. 13.)

Let now the final words of the Lord be considered, as in ver

consistently carrying on the meaning of "Salt," according

orthodox teaching of Mr. Murray's companion, now exposed;

are required to understand that the fire of Gehenna is " good," an

the disciples were to have the fire of Gehenma "in themselves!"

such absurdities is the Holy Word engaged by thoughtless obs

of Tradition!

For the meaning of verses 44-45, the last two verses of Isa.

sufficiently explanatory. It is on putrescent" caj'cases" that

worm" feeds, and" dieth not," as long as it finds food. Then a

the worm leaves, the fire consumes, and is " not quenched," i.e , n

out, but dies out when nought but" dust" remains.-Read-ing, D

REPLY BY MAJOR G. J. VAN SOMEREN.

In January's issue Mr. Murray tells us of his having met a "mini

who, quoting Mm'k ix. 49, as warrant for his belief, said (a )

lake of fire is a purifying fire. Its purpose is not to destroy the

but to purify and purge him. Why, it is as plain as possible.

not say, (b ) 'Every sacrifice shall be salted with fire;' that

purified by fire. (c ) Salt was offered with the Jewish sacrifices to

them pure and acceptable to God; and so the sinner is to be m

ceptable to God by fire."

You, sir, ask for "short seasonable" papers on this subject.

must judge whether this is seasonable, but premising that a reply

on such a subject, be given in half a dozen words, I will be as sh

practicable.

First, let me test the" minister's" words by the Word of God. (a

lake of fire is a purifying fire, Its pt!1-pose is not to destroy the

but to pzt1'ify and purge him." What warrant has the "minister

this assertion? The Word says, "the lake of fire. This is the

death. And whatever was not found written in the Book of Life, w

into the lake of fire." To a plain man the meaning would su

this, "Whosoevel' has not his name written in the Book of Life sha

his part in the second death." Again, our Lord, in the verses pre

the text at the head of this paper, tells His disciples that the

undergo any pain in ridding themselves of anything that may

He then speaks of the Gehenna, "where their worm dieth not,

fire is not quenched." The words are quoted from Isa. lxvi. 24.

we read of the "carcasses" cast into the pit, and which were

burned to ashes or left to moulder, and be devoured of worms.

any suggestion here of purification. ? When chaff is burned u

that operation suggest the idea of the farmer wishing thereby to

it for preservation? The Word tells us that "the wages o

death." The Lord tells us that the punishment is "eternal."

"the second death" is eternal, and that shuts out all hope o

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of a sinful sacrifice, or the purifying, whether by salt or fire, of a sinner

In one case the fire burns the offering as a sweet savour to God, in th

other the sin offering was consumed, "without the camp," and n

word of sweet saVOUTis associated with it anywhere.

The point I desire to urge is, that as salt was used in the sacrifices

and oblations which in their nature contemplated the offerer as an ac

cepted and purified worshipper, the thought of salt being a type of fire

purifying and purging the impenitent sinner, cannot be admitted. Thi

position is strengthened by the fact, that while both salt and fire ar

used in such sacrifices, there is one exception. And how beautiful it is

It is in the same chapter of Leu., (ti,) verse 12, "As for the oblation

of the first fruits, ye shall offer them unto the Lord: but they shall no

be burnt on the altar f::ir a sweet savour." Compare Lev. xxiii. 10-11

" When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap th

harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the first fruits of you

harvest unto the priest: and he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, t

be accepted for you: on the morrow after the Sabbath the priest shal

wave it:" The first fruits, "Christ, the first fruits." He was raised th

morrow after the Sabbath, eighteen centuries ago, and on that morning

fulfilled the last of the offerings. What has fire to do with trying an

more the Holy One who has passed through the refining furnace, wh

has been raised and who was taken up in glory? And see, the pries

shall" wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you," for us"Christ the first fruits, afterwards they that are Christ's at H

coming.

The Lord, in Mm'!> ix. 50, says, "Have salt in yourselves." If, as th

" minister" said, salt typifies the purifying flre of Gehenna, then w

must understand "salt" in verse 50, as in verse 49, and, I write th

words with pain, are we to read verse 50, "Have the purifying lake

fire in yourselves?" Salt is something that the child of God was

have in himself. Now salt preserves flesh and earth-grown vegetables

It also gives them a flavour. "Be at peace with one another." Th

Apostle Peter exhorts, (chapter iii. 14-16, of first epistle,) his hearer

when" suffering for righteousness sake," to "sanctify the Lord God

their hearts, and be ready always to give an answer to every mau tha

asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you, with meekness and fea

having a good conscience." The Apostle Paul exhorts the Colossian

(chapter iv. 6,) to let their" speech be always "with grace seasone

with salt, that ye may know, how ye ought to answer eve

man." These words are a paraphrase of 1J1 ark ix. 50. We are called

" endure hardness"; to "fight a good fight"; to "have a conscienc

void of offence towards God and towards man." To do this requires,

the part of a Christian, many a wrench, many a terrible struggle;.

demands the cutting off of "a hand," "a foot," the taking out of "

eye," if it offends. It is only thus that we can prove here, in the flesh

that we are God's children, that we have the Spirit of Christ in us, an

the flesh must often suffer greatly. Thus only can we do what th

Apostle Paul calls npon us all to do, " I beseech you, therefore, brethren

by the mercies of God, that ye present yam' bodies a living sacrific

holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service." Rom. x

1. If the" salt hast lost its saltness," what is it good for? Indeed,

is no light thing to be called a Christian. May we all walk godl

righteous, and soberly before God" looking unto Jesus the author an

finisher of faith," and so we shall prove our calling and election, an

He will give us both the power and the reward, who died for us that w

might have life, and "that we might have it more abundantly. "Th

gate is strait, let ns who are of the light, see that we enter it. "If a

man sin we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righ

eous." "But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we ha

fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His S

clesnseth us from all sin." "The blood of sprinkling" closes the cat

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logue of what we have "come to." That cleanses the sinner, and

" washed in his fellow's blood, the living bird went free." He shall

never have his part in "the lake of fire. This is the second death,"

but he shall be raised" incorruptible," "immortal," "like Him." May

we all attaiu to that. London, January 1st.

REPLY BY !VIr.. WILLIAM LAING.

In response to the suggestion made in The Bible Standard for last

month, page 6 ,1 " I beg to submit the following as explanatory of the

passage in question.

Like Mr. Murray, I had been accustomed to find the passage used in

support of the idea that the doom of the lost is perpetual existence in

quenchless flames; but. that it is used to support the opposite doctrine

of Universal Restoration, is another illustration of the adage, " extremes

meet." And the fact ef the language being understood to refer to the

punishment of the impenitent, at all, is another illustration of a common

practice of using the language of Scripture, for a purpose, which the

context shows, it was not intended to serve.

Albert Bames, in his notes on the passage, justly remarks that" The

main scope of the passage was not to discourse on future punishment.

That is brought in incidentally." Let the reader turn to the context

from which the text in question is taken, and he will find that the Lord

is enforcing, by the most expressive language, the necessity of the sep-

aration of everything from the disciple that hinders his entrance into

life, however valued that thing may be, or whatever amount of pain the

cutting off may cause,-like cutting off a right hand, or plucking out a

right eye. It is better to "enter into life" thus, than to be cast into

the fire of Gehenna, "where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not

quenched."

Anticipating, perhaps, the enquiry, "Why such severity?" He

immediately adds, "For everyone shall be salted with fire, and every

sacrifice shall be salted with salt." "Fire," to quote again from Albert

Barnes,-" Fire, here, therefore, denotes self-denials, sacrifices, trials,

in keeping ourselves from the gratif ication of the flesh. As if He had

said: Look at the sacrifice on the altar; it is an offering to God; about

to be presented to Him. It is sprinkled with salt, emblematic of PURITY,

of PRESERVATION, and of fitting it, therefore, for a sacrifice. So you are

devoted to God. To make you acceptable offerinqs, everything must be

done to preserve you ham sin; to purify you and make you fit offerings."

"Doing this, you will be acceptable offerings, and be saved; without

this, you will be lost."

The Universalist Baptist Minister was right, in understanding the

language as denoting a purifying process; but he was wrong in project-

ing that process, beyond the life that now is. The purification was not for

sinners, after they die, but for disciples in the present life, that they might

not perish, but enter into life eternal; hence the Lord adds, "Salt is

good; but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season

it?" (The Lord knew nothing of "The Larger hope.") "Have salt

in yourselves, and have peace one with another."

Edinburgh, Jan. 4th.

REPLY BY REV. G. P. MACKAY.

As previously stated, some believe this means that the wicked shall

be purified (for final restoration) by " Hell "-fire, and others, that they

shall be preserved (for eternal torments) by it, and the opinions of

our brethren are desired that" the happy medium" may be pointed out.

I beg to submit that there is no "medium," for the truth does not lie

anywhere between these- two notions. The passage has nothing to do

with the wicked, nor with the fire of future punishment. Reading from

v. 33, we see that Christ is urging His disciples to be ready to make

sacrifices (of themselves) for the sake of life eternal; just as Paul, in

Rom. xii. 1, says, " I beseech you, therefore, brethren, by the mercies of

God, that ),e present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto

God, which is your reasonable service." And here, in verse 49,

shows that such sacrifice shall certainly be required of them:

everyone (of His followers) shall be salted (as the Levitical sac

were, but) with fire," (" The fiery trial which is to try you," 1 P

12.) The Levitical sacrifices were salted, not to purify them, fo

were already (if according to command,) animals "without blem

nor to preserve them, for they were immediately afterwards consu

but" to make a sweet savour unto the Lord." And the believ

"salted with fire" of trial, (" for we are unto God a sweet savo

Christ; ") " that the trial of your faith, being much more precious

of gold (or animal sacrifice,) that perisheth, though it be tried wit

might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appeari

Jesus Christ." (1 Pet. i. 7.)

Lincoln, Jan. 5.

REPLY OF MR. R. J. HAMMOND.

The difficulty in lYla?'k ix. 49, surmounted in seven easy and r

steps.

Step l.-IIeb. xii. 29, "For our God is a consuming fire."

Note-" Our God," not a preseruinq, or tormenting, or pU?'ifying

a" consuming fire." Having such a God, we expect a kingdom

28) which cannot be shaken, froln which all evil persons and

have been removed=-coxstms»: therefore, to secure that kingdom

hold fast grace, and worship with reverence and godly fear, acceptaStep 2.-Deut. iv. 24, "For the Lord thy God is a consuming

jealous God."

Note-The consuming fire is the jealousy of God; jealousy is in

Love; God is Love; erqo, God is in His Nature a consuming fire:

Love is strong as death; jealousy hard as sheol ; the coals thereof,

of fire, a most vehement flame."-Sol. Song, viii. 6.

Step 3.-Zeph. iii. 8, "To pour upon them Mine indignation, a

fierce anger; for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire

jealousy."

Note-Gad's Love being turned by sin into Jealousy, becomes

vouring fire, and is righteously manifested in indignation and

anger. As also see Nah. i. 2, 3, "God is jealous, and the Lo

vengeth; the Lord revengeth, aud is furious; the Lord will

vengeance on His adversaries, and He reserveth wrath for His ene

The Lord is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all

the wicked; the Lord hath His way in the whirlwind and in tbe

and the clouds are the dust of His feet."

Step 4.-Lev. ix. 24, "And there came a fire out from befo

Lord, and consumed upon the altar the burnt-offering. and th

when all the people saw, they shouted, and fell on their f

(x. 1, 2), "And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took eith

them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon

offered strange fire before the Lord, which He commanded them

And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and

died before the Lord."

Note A.-A flash from the Shekinah between the Cherubim, k

the wood on the altar, and the savour of the offering ascended w

ceptance to the Lord. who thus approved of the offering, and re

the people. Another flash from the Shekinah, but iu jealous, righ

anger, and not in lov~, smote the two priests lifeless to the

they are taken out (see vel'. 5) in their coats, and buried.

Note B.-The lake of fire is not needed to take away th

of the wicked, (though some, perhaps many, or all, may be cast

into it), but rather to utterly, eternally destroy soul and carcase.

Isa. lxvi. 24.)

Note C.-Couple with the above, Num, xi. 1, where the sam

of the Lord burned in the Camp, when the people murmured.

Step 5.-2 Kings i. 10, 12, 14, "And there came down fire

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heaven (the fire of God, ver. 12), and consumed him and his fifty."

Gen. xix. 24, " Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah brim-

stone and fire from the Lord out of heaven."· Jude 7, " Suffering the

vengeance of eternal fire."

Note-Is not the electric fire meant here? The triune force, light,

heat, electl"icity,-light, life, fire. Threefold in manifestation, one in

essence. This one force is convertible, according to circumstances, into

three.

Step 6.-Matt. xxv. 41, "Depart from Me, ye cursed, into (the)

everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels."

Note A.-The Rebellion of Satan brought forth a display of the

righteousness of God, even His just jealousy, His nature-Love, which

will and must burn till it utterly consumes him (Satan) and all his

aiders and abetters, and then God shall be " all in all."

Note B.-If another outburst of evil could be conceived, the

everlasting fire would be necessarily re-kindled, to consume it.

Step 7.-Mark ix. 43," If thy hand cause thee to offend, cut it

off; it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two

hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched."

Note A.-The exercised soul casts off a member, in self-judgment, to

be destroyed by the everlasting fire, rather than finally to be cast into it

himself. "And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it

from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should

perish, and not that thy whole body should be cas' into hell." "For

everyone shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted

with salt." Matt. v.29; lYI{wk ix. 49.

Note B.-As every burnt-offering had its acceptability inereased by

being seasoned with salt, so every believer should be embued, or

seasoned with righteousness; a fire like that of Leu., chaps. ix. and x,

which approves of the good, and abhors the evil. See Step 4. This

righteousness,-salt,-fire,-is acceptable to God, and useful to the

world: as ill Matt. v. 13-14, "Ye are the salt of the earth; ye are the

light of the world,"-to give grace and knowledge to the world.

Note C.-Salt was not used to preserve anything. This use of it is

modern. Its office.was just simply to give a saVOlW to food, to make it

palatable and nutritious;

Note D.-The BURNT (or Ascension) OFFERINGof Lev. io, was placedin its entirety (skin excepted) on the wood on the altar, and fumed

(literally, incensed) by the fire, till all the savout· was extracted, and

passed off in vapour; the deshen, or fatty residue, was then removed to

make room for a fresh victim. (See Lev. v. 9, 10, 11.) As concerning

the meat and peace-offerings of Lev., chaps. ii. and iii., part only was

placed on the burnt-offering of chap. i., and fumed with it. The sin-

offering, on the contrary, was wholly burnt to ashes, on the ground

outside the camp. The fire which fed, with complacency, on the one,

in wrath uttet·ly destroued. the other.

Note E.-By showing that the NATURE of God necessitates the

destruction of the wicked, we destroy the Universalist argument, which

says that the Nature of God necessitates the purification of the wicked.

We have the two immutable things-God's Word and God's Nature,

against human feelings and fine-drawn analogies.

London, Jan. 6.

We have received two other replies, which we unwillingly hold over,

having already made serious demands upon our limited space. That

we might be strictly impartial in our treatment of correspondents, we

have inserted communications, in the order of date, which will be our

standing rule. We thank our correspondents for their communications,

and trust to receive, month by month, others equally thoughtful and

helpful.

We have received the following from our esteemed Treasurer :-" A

qU81·yfor next Bible Stomdard, Solomon, in Ecclesiastes, knows of no

future for man whatever. He mourns over the thought that man, w

all his intelligence, will go, like the beast, to his eternal home, t

grave (see Eccles. xii. 5, in Hebrew and Greek) ; and recommends t

same course that Paul does, IF there is no resurrection, Compa

Eccles. ii. 24, with 1 Cor. xv. 32. Thus:' There is nothing better fo

man, than that he should eat and drink, and that he should make

soul enjoy good in his labour.'-' Let us eat and drink; for to-morro

we die.' How is this compatible with the Book of Psalms, writt

about the same time, and expressing clearly resurrection-hope 1"

We invite correspondence hereon, for our March issue; directing t

attention of correspondents to the regulations at the head of this sectio

The remaining letters ou Mat·k ix. 49., shall also appear.

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CORRESPONDENCE EXTRACTS.

[As we receive in our General Correspoudence much i.n!ol'mation tha .t (though nottended for publication) would be useful and apprecmted. by ma!lY of our .readers,purpose making a judicious selection monthly, under this heading.-Edttor]

Bundaberg, Queensland, Sep. 13th, 1880.

" WE have much pleasure in sending a word of encouragement to t

brethren engaged in the work, in whose writings we a re deeply interested

not forgetting the able and worthy Editor (Rev. W. Leask), and other

whose names appear in the Rainbow, one copy of which has found

way here monthly for nearly four years."-Joseph Wriqht,

Auckland, New Zealand, Nov. 6tl1, 1880.

" Since I last wrote, I have had many interesting features in conne

tion with our New Zealand work, and 1 am more and more convince

that it is the will of the Lord that I have come to this far-off land. Doo

are opening on every hand, and I must begin to cry, 'Come over an

help us,' for the harvest is truly great, but the labourers are few. The

are openings on every hand for faithful labourers, and the people a

willing to listen. The crowds still come, and our place is not half larg

enough. Last Sunday night we were completely packed, every inch

standing room was taken up, and many had to go away. I am in hop

soon to be able to write that we are building a suitable place of worshi

a place which will hold, at least, from 900 to 1,000 people. I belie

this will yet be accomplished. I have many very bitter enemies, who s

all manner of evil against me. These things are hard to bear, but the

will only drive me closer to the Lord, and make me resolve to live mo

consistent day by day. My enemies will not meet me face to face;

cannot get them on the public platform; but, notwithstanding all the

efforts, the Lord has raised up many warm friends, who are to me

source of great comfort and consolation.

" Since I last wrote you we have baptised 33, and others are waitin

to obey the Master in this ordinance. To-morrow morning (Sunday) w

hope to organise a Church; we shall simply call it a ' Church of Christ

and our ground will be 'Faith anc1Obedience in our Lord Jesus Christ

I think that we shall start with from 60 to 70 members. We have a

Open Table, and break bread each Lord's day morning; some 100150 partake with us. Our morning Service is a very interesting o

indeed, and not only interesting, but profitable,-praise the Lord f

His great goodness to me, more blessing far I do enjoy than I c1eserv

I expect to issue the first number of the New Zealand Bible Standar

next month, dating it for January, 1881. The price will be 3d. per cop

It will be twelve pages, the same size as our Home Bible Standard, b

it costs double the English price. I am in hopes that it will be a gre

help to the work here, in fact I have no doubt about it. I hope to hav

a full account of your Conference at Liverpool by the incoming Mail. .'-

Rev. G. A. Brown, Corresporuiinq Mel1~ber•

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London, Dec. 27th.

" Mr. Lesslie, Toronto, writes that the Rainbow is not to be sent any

longer to the Y. M. Christian Association,-Montreal, Ottawa, Kingston,

and Toronto,-as neither it nor tbe Bible Standard is allowed by the

Committee to lie on the tables. Intelligent men l!-Rev. W. Leaslc, D.D.

Glasgow, Dec. 30th.

" I have had four nights' discussion with 'Christadelpians,' in their

own Hall on 'What is the Gospel of Salvation?' I have to read an

Essay before the 'Berean Institute,' on Tuesday week, which is to have

two evening's discussion; and I have still to occupy the Hall, grunted

me gratui tously for three or four evenings, unless our dear Lord is

pleased to send us some one else. I do wish we could get some able

English brother to give us one or two of the nights, in this, the second

City of the Empire. I think it would do an immense deal of good."-

T. J.Hitchcock,

Hull, Dec. 31st.

" One of the principal Nonconformist ministers in this town recently

advised his flock to read Ed. White's book (Life only in Christ), and

spoke very highly of it."-J. C. Akester,

CORRESPONDENCE.

To THE EDITOR OF THE" BIBLE STA.NDARD."

Sir,-Permit me to ask Major van Someren the Scriptural warrantfor such a statement as the following, on page ~3 of the last issue ofThe Standard. Alluding to the moment of the Translation of the Body

of Christ into the Firmament to meet the Lord, he says, " The livingshall go through the same process of putting off the Adamic body that

their brethren had gone through before them, the only difference beingthat they do not lie asleep." I ask, because 1 Cm'. xv. 52, which hequotes, seems to teach that, instead of the living going through "the

process" of dying (which I presume to be his meaning) "as their brethrenhad gone through," the words imply that they "will be changed in thetwinkling of an eye," a space of time so immeasurably instantaneous

as not to admit of any intermediate "process" whatever! Such" process," too, lacks the element of exigency; there is no valid reasonfor it.

Other Scriptures, moreover, are as precise as to the nature of theevent as the above, In 2 Cor. v. 4, Paul expresses his desire that hemight" not be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality, (his mortalbody) might be swallowed 1tp of life," i.e., the change above noted.

Finally, let The Words of the Lord decide. John xi. 25-26, " He thatbelieveth on Me, tbough he were dead, yet shall he live." This isResurrection. "And whosoever liveth and believeth on Me, shall neverdie." This is the contemplated chauge; tbe whole in illustration of

the words" I am the Resurrection" of the dead members of the body," And the Life" eternal of those who will be changed.

Yours faithfully,Reading, Dec. 30. H. GOODWYN.

To THE EDITOR OF THE" BIBLE STANDARD."

Dear Sir,-Allow me to suggest a further reply to the question dealtwith, in the interesting paper of Major G. J. van Someren: "If Jesusbore our punishment, why do His people still die, and undergo thatcurse? " There are two fallacies wrapt up in the question which, ifcorrected, will give much greater force to Major Someren's remarks.

1st. The question assumes, first, that death is 'our punishment: 'now this is not the fact! Death. comes upon the children of menthrough no fault of their own; in proof of this, infants who have com-mitted no sin whatever, are subject to this infliction: the Scriptures

also distinctly affirm that we suffer death through the sin of Adam :" By one man sin entered the world, and death by sin."-Rom. v. 12.Death, therefore, is not OU1' punishment: the more correct way to statethe proposition would be, If Christ bore the sin of Adam, why do we,Adam's children, and who in no wise participated in his guilt, stillcontinue to suffer death?

2no. The question affirms yet further" that God's people still die asuiundergo that curse." Now, this is not a correct statement; neitherdoes it present us with the whole cas- : if we are to form a soundjudgment of the wisdom and justice of God in His dealings with men,we must have before us the whole plan of the Diviue procedure. God's

people still die? True I But what happens after that? Why, justthis, that their forfeited lives, and not only theirs, but the lives of allmen, are restored to them through the death of Christ" at the resurrec-

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tion. "Since by man came death, by man came also the resurrectiof the dead." 1 GDr. xv. 21. The death of Christ, then, hascomplished something at all events: had Christ not died and r

again, no man would ever have j'isen from . the dead. OJ ' lived again?us then take account of the value of 'this fact: Suppose you are suecourt for a debt, say of twenty pounds; it matters not whether justlyunjustly, the case is decided against you, and you have to paymoney, you forfeit twenty pounds: but a friend who is interestedyou, gives you the money; you are thus recouped, and you have suffno loss. Has not redemption accomplished a similar result for mankin

Man'S life is forfeited through the sin of Adam, (we do DOt sta

discuss the wisdom of this arrangement, or otherwise, but note the fChrist, in His great compassion, as the Lamb of God, takes awaysin of the world, (i.e., original sin, or the sin of Adam,) and insequence thereof. every man, whether penitent or otherwise, hashisrestored to him, his subsequent treatment proceeding strictly upongrounds of his own conduct; if he accepts the gospel, the atonemsecures for him pardon and eternal life; if impenitent, he sufferssecond death, the result' of his own guilt. Now, if the l ife forfe

through the sin of Adam be restored to every man through the CrosChrist, and man be reinstated in his condition previous to his desurely man has suffered no damage, and it is a most important factokeep before us in considering this question. These two correctitherefore alter the whole gist of the query propounded above; infirst place, death is not OU?· puuishment, and in the second place,

life lost is restored by Christ, and man sustains no damage. Myimpression of death is, that to those who experience it, it will seem

them but as a swoon, a temporary unconsciousness; the long timeintervenes in the knowledge of the living, is unknown to the dead,were the restoration to life to be accomplished, say within a week, d

-that is, the article of death-would be regarded altogether as a maof slight importance, I mean as regards time, similar to a fracturedor a temporary fit of paralysis. The servant of the high priest suff

but little damage when Peter cut off bis ear, since Chr ist immediatrestored the member; and so, if resurrection followed rapidlydeath, we should feel with greater force the fact that the Saviour's dhad brought about the restoration of man's life. It cannot, therefbe said of any man that he dies, in the same sense as he woulddied had there been no atonement; death in the latter case wouldbeen an eternal forfeiture of life. The question, corrected, stands tIf Christ bore the sin of Adsm, (which sin brought death, eternal de

upon his children,) why do Adam's children (for all of whom Cdied) suffe?' the loss of life for a time? Stated in this form, the quespresents no serious difficulty to a Bible student.-I remain, dearyours very truly, Charles Underhill.

Oxford; Jan. 10th.

QUESTION AND ANSWER.

[This column is statedly devoted to replies to such questions, objections, and su

tions as may be of general interest. We only undertake, however, to reply tocommunications as may commend themselves to our own judgment, sacknowledging the receipt of others. We are personally responsible foanswers given.-EDITOR.]

A.-C. Skinner. It would serve no good purpose to reply tocommunication. Until we dwell somewhere nearer together thanAntipodes, we will agree to differ, not discuss.

A.-G. T. B. We thank you for the pamphlet, which we havefully read and marked for reply. Owing, however, to the pressure uour space, we must defer our inten tion tlll March issue.

Q.-" Will you tell-if the dead sleep-the meaning of the third vof the 17th of Mattheio } I have been asked the question."

A.-In December Bible Standard; page 54, you will fiud an answeyour query. It is too far-fetched an argument against the unconscio

ne ss of the death-state to cite two such sinqula« eases as MosesElias, one of whom had not seen death, the other not corruption, (wwe understand by the expression Deut. xxxiv. 6.)

Q.-" May r ask what is your system of Church government?you regular Ministers? If not, why not? Do you practise Immers

and why? or why not, if not? Can you tell me of any good worBaptism? "

A.-I. Ours is not a Church Organization, but a simple Unio

individual believers and separate Churches. We only unite to spreadtruths of the Life and Ad vent, retaining our personal and church teand cnstoms on all other points. 2. Thus, we have no "reguMinisters,"-that is a matter for the separate Churches, as such;have Agents, Lecturers, and hope to add Evangelists and Colportewhen funds permit, but it forms no part of our calling or purposcreate a "Ministry." 3. As an Association, we know nothing of Immsion, but as individuals and separate Churches we exercise our libeither as Baptists or otherwise. 4. Perhaps some of our readersassist you/in your last query, i;f so; we will insert the informat

in our next issue.,

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