quTaisi ganagrZobs im sisxlsavsecxovrebas, rac mas saqarTvelosparlamentis Tbilisidan gadatanamarguna. imdeni ra giTxraTo, SemedavebaquTaiseli. parlamentis gadatanas,parlamentis momsaxure teqnikuripersonalis Tbilisidan gadayvanacmohyva. ase rom adgilobrivTa dasaqmebakiTxvis niSnis qveS dadga.saparlamento muSaobisTvisSeuferebelma Senobam, uhaero sivrcemda uamravma teqnikurma problemam,umal mopyro sazogadoebis yuradReba,magram mere ra? arc araferi.parlamentma ver moaxerxa quTaisisklanWebidan Tavis daRweva da sruli4 weli Tbilis-quTaisis gzazemimosvlas miandoma.
netavi mogclia. Tu parlamentarebs,aparats da teqnikur personals awyobsaqeT-iqiT xetiali, ixetialon, Sen raganaRvlebso _ metyvis mavani. martoxetiali rom iyos da am „saSur“saqmeSi saxelmwifo biujetis msuyeTanxebi ar ixarjebodes, xmasac ardavZravdi.
gansakuTrebiT Zvel qalaqSi Cadgmuli2 „truba“ da xidi, vinaidan „saocnebo“xelisuflebas sulac ar anaRvlebsmaTi damangreveli arseboba.
qalaqis erT-erTma vice-merma sulaxlaxans upasuxa parlamentarobismsurvel ruruas mowodebas (andaangrieT, an daamTavreTo), rom misdamTavrebas araerTi milioni dolarisWirdeba da dangrevasac aranaklebi.
qalaqis merias arasdros eqneba amsaSineli nagebobebis sxvagan gadatanisfuli, rac imas niSnavs, rom Cven daqalaqSi Camosuli stumari„samaradisod ganwiruli“ varT„davtkbeT“ am saSinelebis xilviT. mecra! Tbilisis merisa da aparatisganiseTs moviTxov, SeuZlebeli rom aris.gana SeiZleba rame mosTxovo mers,romelic yoveldRe, samsaxurSiyofnisas naxevrad dangreuli SenobisConCxs uyurebs _ siriis qalaq aleposoms rom gvagonebs.
gzis xarjebsac ver aanazRaurebs,Tundac mTeli darbazi ucxoelebiTrom gaivsos.
pativcemulo mkiTxvelo,darwmunebuli xarT imaSi, rom iqgamarTul koncerts ucxoelebi(mravlobiTSi) daeswrebian?saqarTvelos mosaxleobas namdviladar aqvs koncertze dasaswrebi fuli.aseTebi cotani arian da darbazisxarjebs namdvilad ver aanazRaureben.arc ucxoelTa didi raodenobiTdaswrebis imedi unda gvqondes.
ase da amrigad, ivaniSvilis miernaCuqari sakoncerto darbazisaqarTvelos xelisufalTa Tavsatexigaxdeba. misi Senaxvis Tanxebi isevsaqarTvelos mwir biujets daawveba.saboloo jamSi ki mosaxleobis isedacgafxekil jibeebs _ pirdapiri TugadataniTi mniSvnelobiT.
ivaniSvilma bevri ifiqra Tu cota,dainaxa rom darbazis Senaxvas,personalis xelfasebsa da sxvawvrilman-msxvilman sakiTxebs didiTanxebis gaweva dasWirdeboda da„farTo JestiT“ saxelmwifos aCuqa.saxelmwifos, romelsac parlamentisSenobis Senaxvac uWirs. gaivlis erTiweli da Tu vinmes gaaxsendebaSekveTilis „koncert-holi“,TvalnaTliv dainaxavs, upatronobisganra bedi ewia mas.
mavani Semedaveba _ kacma aaSena dasaxelmwifos aCuqa, ra aris amaSicudio? amaSi cudi araferia, magramkargsac ver vxedav, Tavsatexi ki _mTavrobisTvis TvalnaTelia. 200milioni didi fulia, Tanac iseTimwiri qveynisTvis, rogoricsaqarTveloa. modiT vifantazioroT,ramdeni sawarmos aSeneba SeiZlebodaam fuliT. Tundac liftebis mSenebeliqarxnis, pampersebis damamzadebelifabrikis an nagavgadasamuSavebeliiseTi qarxnis, eleqtroenergias romgamoimuSavebs. am dargebze imitomvamaxvileb yuradRebas, rom lifti,pampersi da nagavi mudam aqtualuriiqneba.
ivaniSvilis kompaniebi sxva saqmiTarian dakavebuli, iseTiT, romelicmxolod maT jibeebs gaasqelebs.ivaniSvili rixiT acxadebs _ „me,saqarTveloSi biznesi ar maqvso“.keTili, magram „qarTu banki“qvelmoqmedebaa Tu biznesi? „panoramaTbilisi“ iqneb ltolvilebisTvisSendeba da ara didi SemosavlisTvis?hi permarketi „karfuric“qvelmoqmedebaa? aRarafers vambob aTassamSeneblo kompaniaze, romlebic miskontrols eqvemdebarebian.
ase, rom am bedkruli qveynidanivaniSvilis Semosavali erTi TeTrinamdvilad ar aris. misi naTqvami _saqarTveloSi biznesi ar maqvso _tyuilia. da es rom marTla asec iyos_ danaSaulia da ratom? 7 miliardispatroni sxvas mouwodebs investiciisCadebas, TviTon ki uars acxadebs, raceWvs badebs nebismier potenciurucxoel investorSi.
rodesac ivaniSvili sajarod ambobs,rom saqarTveloSi mas biznesi ar aqvs,uneblied ibadeba kiTxva _ ratom?iqneb, sainvesticio klimati ar arisSesaferisi? iqneb plitikuriarastabiluroba ganapirobebssamSobloSi investiciebisganuxorcieleblobas?
bevri „iqneb“ SeiZleba daebadosmomaval investors da yvela kiTxvasaqarTvelos sasargeblo namdviladar iqneba. ivaniSvilma erTob briyvulipasuxiT Tavic moiWra da qveyanasacmoWra.
axla rac Seexeba e.w. qvelmoqmedebas_ es aaSena, Teatrebs remontebiCautara, inteligencias fuls aZlevsda a.S. ivaniSvili miliarderia _ 7miliardis patroni. is miliarderTaklubis wevria. miliarderoba ki rodiniSnavs dolarebze kruxiviT dajdomas.miliarderTa dauwereli kanoniaqvelmoqmedebis gaweva, Tanac ara
aTasebSi, aramed milionebSi. Tu Cemiar gjeraT, hkiTxeT radio „maestros“,romelmac erTi Tvis win msofliosmiliarderTa mier gaweulqvelmoqmedebaze gaakeTa gadacema. imCamonaTvlis mixedviT, ivaniSvilis mierqvelmoqmedebaze daxarjuli Tanxa,erTob mokrZalebulia.
davubrundeT Temas, romliTacdaviwye am statiis wera _ quTaisSisauniversiteto qalaqis mSeneblobas.davsvaT martivi kiTxva _ sWirdeba Tuara saqarTvelos 60.000-ianiuniversiteti? qveyanas, sadac uamravisaxelmwifo da kerZo universitetia?ra vuyoT Tbilisis teqnikuruniversitets _ unikaluri, magramSebRaluli interier-eqsterieriT?iqneb axlis aSenebis nacvlad arsebuligagveremontebina, axali teqnikiTaRgveWurva, Sesabamisi gaTboba-gaciebissistema mogvewyo, studqalaqis SenobacagveSenebina da ase Semdeg. esgacilebiT naklebi dajdeboda, vidrequTaisis momavali sauniversitetoqalaqi.
Tbilisis teqnikuri universitetiavad Tu kargad funqcionirebs daraRa saWiroa axlis mSenebloba? 60.000studentisTvis gaTvlili universitetisaqarTvelosTvis Zalian didadmeCveneba, yvela arsebulTan erTadfantastikurad _ qveyanaSi, romlismosaxleoba sul raRac 3.5 milionsSeadgens da romelSic demografiuliawmyo da momavali sagangaSoa. quTaisismosaxleoba isea Semcirebuli, rommeore qalaqoba raxania baTums dauTmo.
demograf anzor ToTaZis mixedviT,mZime mdgomareobaa ara marto quTaisSi,aramed imereTSi. iqauri mosaxleobisdidi nawili an sazRvargareTaa wasulilukma-puris saZebnad an TbilisSiaCamosuli. vin Seavsebs universitets?vin gauwevs mas teqnikur momsaxurebas,vin daalagebs, vin mouvlis saswavloda studentTa sacxovrebel korpusebs,sacurao auzs, sportul darbazebsda a.S.?
davibade soxumSi da SeuZlebeliasamegrelosa da megrelebis mimarTgansakuTrebuli simpaTiebi ar mqondes,Zalian miyvars samegrelo, amitomacvaCuqe saqarTvelos kivi, anu givi.
– givi?– 1988 wels saqarTveloSi gamovagza-
vne 300 000 kivis nergi. maSin germanulitransporti ruseTis gavliT xvdebodasaqarTveloSi, radgan im periodisTvisjer kidev ar iyo TurqeTi germani-isTvis sasurveli qveyana. me damikavSir-da premier-ministri Cerqezia, Cvenisaubris Semdeg SevTanxmdiT imaze, romgamovagzavnidi saqarTveloSi kivisnergebs-meTqi. me vuTxari: samegreloSigavizarde, vaCuqeb megrelebs kivisnergebs. brestis gavliT gamoigzavnatvirTi. Tbilisidan gamouSves manqana,rom CamoetanaT TbilisSi da meregaegzavnaT dasavleT saqarTveloSi.sabaJosTan mZRoli Turme eZebda arakivis, aramed givis. mokled, givi araris. mZRoli ki fexs ar icvlis daambobs: Cven gamogviSves, rom undaCamosuliyo givi. ase rom, kivi, givi,es iyo didi gaugebroba. ase gaCndasaqarTveloSi kivi. dResdReobiT, ro-gorc vici, farTod aris gavrcelebulisaqarTveloSi kivi. soflis meurneobisbolo ministri oTar danelia Zalianaqtiuri da energiuli axalgazrdagaxldaT. aRar aris xom ukve min-istri?
– is ukve axali parlamentis depu-tatia.
– diax, is yovelTvis svamdamniSvnelovan kiTxvebs CemTan saubrisas:rogor fiqrobT, ra jobs, risi gakeTe-ba iqneba ukeTesi saqarTvelosTviso.bevri visaubreT da amis Semdeg ga-davwyvite saqarTveloSi kaklis axalijiSi Semometana, romlis saxeliamakadamia. am mcenarem saxeli miiRomegruli warmoSobis gvarisgan – adamia.vinme adamias, romelic karga xnis wingadasaxlda Turme avstraliaSi. amadamias rqmevia malxazi, avstraliaSiewodeboda maqsi, anu maqs adamia,kakalsac ase daerqva maksadamia, Semdegmakadamia. makadamias SemadgenlobaSiZalian bevri iseTi elementia, rac,rogorc mere gairkva, adamianis janm-rTelobisTvis Zalian sasargebloa.axla sityva-sityviT wagikiTxavT mec-nierTa daskvnas misi sargeblianobisSesaxeb: makadamia sxvebisgan gansx-vavdeba imiT, rom is sasargebloa or-ganizmisTvis, aris maRalkaloriuli,savsea vitaminebis kompleqsiT, Seicavscximebs da eTerzeTebs. gamoiyenebaarTritebis, anginis, simsivnuri daavade-bebis ganviTarebis riskis sawinaaR-mdegod, Seicavs e. w. palmitis mJavas,romelic TiTqmis arc erT sxva mcenare-Si ar gvxvdeba, arsebobs mxolodadamianis kanis SemadgenlobaSi.makadamias gaaCnia antioqsidanturi Se-madgenlobac. misi unikaluri Tvisebe-bis gamo makadamia kosmetologiaSic
farTod gamoiyeneba da ixmarebasaukeTeso saSualebad mSrali kanismovlisTvis. mas Tmis saRebavebis Se-madgenlobaSic iyeneben. xom xedavT,ra unikaluri Tvisebebi aqvs ammcenares? sul male daviwyebT misgavrcelebas saqarTveloSi. ramdenimeheqtari miwa maqvs saqarTveloSi, sadacdavrgav, albaT, makadamias nergebs.
Tavis mxriv wminda ilia marTlismkvlelobis erT-erTma moTavem,winamdebare gancxadeba imxanadsaqarTvelos ssr Ss ministrs besarionkvirkvelias daawera. hoda, saswaulicaq moxda: besarion kvirkvelia, sakiTxisSesaswavlad da saTanadodmosamzadeblad, daeTaTbira mis miersaswrafod Seqmnil komisias, romelsacpavle ingoroyva mesaWeobda.
amas Sedegad is mohyva, rom moTxovnasamxreT oseTis sabWoTa socialisturirespublikis Seqmna dedaqalaqiT _saCxereSi ar dakmayofilda, magramilias mkvlelebma osebs maincdaumontaJes da xelSi daakaves isnelqmedebis naRmi, romliTac axla„xoSi maqvs da vakeTebos“ wesiTokupantebi gvaWrian da gvaWrianmamapapur mamuls (masalebs samxreToseTis sabWoTa socialisturirespublikis Seqmnis moTxovnaze zviadgamsaxurdias xelisuflebaSi yofnisasaexsna grifi „sruliad saidumlod“.Sesabamisad, igi mecnieruladSeiswavla, daamuSava da amis Sesaxebdaweril monografias osibolSevikebis mier Sedgenilidiversiuli rukebi daurToprofesorma SoTa vadaWkoriam.samwuxarod, TiTqmis meoTxedi saukunea,maTi gamocema ver moaxerxa batonmaSoTam. rac Seexeba pirvelwyaros, masgrifi „sruliad saidumlod“ kvlav
aRudga da isev cxraklitulSimiabrunes).
batono leri,aseTi warsulis amgvarad
gamogamzireba imisTvis ki ar damWirda,Surisgeba da mrisxaneba rom mivageboosTa mier daRvrili qarTvelTasisxliT avsebul moTminebis fialas,sxva ramisTvis gavisarje: TqvensaqarTvelos xelisuflebis maRaliTanamdebobis piri brZandebiT, aqedangamomdinare, flobT saTanadouflebamosilebasa da politikursaSualebebs, raTa osTa mekobreobasramenairi zRude miageboT. kinaRamdamaviwyda, aseve Tqvendamidaqvemdebarebulia (TavmjdomarebrZandebiT) saqarTvelos olimpiurikomiteti. meti ra unda moeqces TqvensxelSi, raTa ara mxolod xmamiawvdinoT da siswore auwyoTdezinformaciis tyveobaSi myofmsoflios sazogadoebriobas (maTSoris Tqvens sanaTesaos _ osebs)imaze, rom qarTvelTa maradiulyofas,maTi mamulis ubodiSod xelyofisgamo, safrTxe Seeqmna. diax, es, anusakuTar mamulSi qarTvelTa milevadimdgomareobidan gamoyvana, ra Tqmaunda, saxelmwifo politikad undaaqcioT im mosazRvrulobaSi, sanamdecxeli migiwvdebaT. pirvel rigSi, rusda os agresorTa mier okupirebulicxinval-axalgorSi Tqvens TanamoZmeebs,os guTnisdeda mosaxleobas undaauxiloT Tvali, maTi TanamoZmeebismier Tu rogori TanamimdevrulobiTnadgurdeba is qveyana, romelmac isiniSemoisaxlikaca. Tqven,yovelmizezgareSe mogeTxovebaT,daajero osi kaci yvelgan, rsfsr-Sicda saqarTveloSic, rom rusTamoimedeobiT maT mier daTesili siavesaqarTveloSi, romelic jerjerobiTgasdiT, ar gagrZeldeba usasrulod,rameTu saxareba gvaswavlis: „_ da Senkapernaum, TviT zecamde amaRlebulo,jojoxeTamde daemxobi Sen“ (maTe _ 11,23).
aq, TavisTavad, cota daJinebiT,Tumca vcdilob zrdilobianad, magramsisworeSi gasarkvevad miwaramardebaazri, _ Tu marTla qarTulisaxelmwifos xelisuflad, anusaqarTvelos kanonieri mosaxleobisganawesis msaxurad moiazrebT Tqvensvinaobas da kidev im adamianad miiCnevTTavs, saxlSi rom SeiSveba saxlikacad,maSin gagiadvildebaT imis ganmartebac,_ ramdenad gaSfoTebT iseTiyoveldRiuroba, rodesac osebis mierrusebis mxardaWeriT okupirebulicxinval-axalgoris mxareSi, dRe erTiada aTobiT mwyemss, jonjolis sakrefadtyeSi gasul mSier dedabers, bavSvs,qals da a. S. moTamaSe bavSvebsac ki,romelTac burTi mijnis iqiTgadaugordebaT, e. w. osisamarTaldamcavebi TviTmarqviadaRmarTuli „saxelmwifo sazRvrisdarRvevis“ gamo, avtomatis miSveriTatyveveben, apatimreben, scemen,Seuracxyofas ayeneben, Rirsebasulaxaven, sulSi afurTxeben (ai, esaasadReiso mekobreoba) da ase nawamebs,„bedma Tu gauRima“, gamosasyidis fasaduSveben dilegis cxraklitulidan.diax, Cemo batono, mekobreoba TqveniTanamoZmeebis xeloba gaxda da isiniamgvarad saqmianoben swored iq,saidanac Tqven saqarTvelosparlamentSi agirCies.
es xdeba yoveldRiurad-meTqi,sxvadasxva nairsaxeobiT,sxvadasxvanairi simZimiT, magramTanamimdevruli jermonacvleobiT!...
batono leri,gagonili geqnebaT, rom saqarTvelos
deda eklesiis mier wmindanadSeracxulma cotne dadianma, mas Semdeg,rac monRolma dampyroblebma misimegobrebi daapatimres, anisSi, sadacisini sawameblad Caiyvanes, CaakiTxada maTi xvedri gaiziara.
es mas Tanamdebobrivad dasamsaxurebrivi gapirovnebiT arevaleboda, zneobam mosTxova, asemoqceuliyo.
Tqven, cotne dadianisagan
gansxvavebiT, swored samsaxurebrivimiwerilobiT da ara martoqvelmoqmedebrivi nebayoflobiTgevalebaT, anu mogeTxovebaT sal-klded dadgeT iq, sadac Tqvens xalxsarbeven, aupatiureben, agineben, monadixdian. amisTvis qarTuli saxelmwifossalarodan xelfass iRebT, arafersvambob, xalxis mier wingauxedavad,magram mainc gaRebul ndobaze TqvensmimarT, riTac saqarTvelosparlamentis wevris (da ara martoamis) rwmuneba geboZaT.
samwuxarod, ar maxsendeba, am „didiosuri“ wiokobis Sesaxeb sadme raime,Tqveni beWebis Sesaferisi amrisxanebaagwyvetodaT sadavidan. arada, amassamsaxureobrivi movaleobisadmigulgrili damokidebuleba hqviamSvidobian dros, xolo aseT saqciels,savele-sasangro mdgomareobis gaswvriv,rogorSic Tqveni amomrCevlebiimyofebian, samSoblos, xalxis RalatsTu ara, sul cota, dezertirobasmainc eZaxian, rasac sasamarTlosagangebo wesiT unda ganixilavdes.
aseTi viTarebis dros, araviTarSemTxvevaSi ar unda gaxdes sawyeniTu qarTveli eri, romelic Tqvenxelfass gixdiT amisaTvis,dainteresdeba, ra aris is sapirwone,romliTac ase wamlekavad mozRvavebulosianobas (SeadareT lekianobas) TqvenssaarCevno olqSi, Zvrauqmnelobad undaejebirebodeT. es erTaderTisaSualebaa amJamad, radgan e. w.qarTvel arasamTavroboebsa dauflebadamcvelebs, meti saqme ara aqvT,dro flangon da „tetia qarTvelebis“gamosarCleba gai pirovnon, maTgamoSarebuli „umciresobebis“didmpyrobluri ubodiSoba aqvTdasacavi saokupacio quslebqveSmoqceuli qarTvelebisagan: aba,romelime sajdom gaburRuls gaerWosquslSi ekali, mere uyureT maTakriaxebas erT „sadamcvelo“ xmaSi!...
Tqvenze ukeT vis unda moexsenebodes,rom ara Tu sabWoTa kavSirSi Tavisdroze, dRevandeli msoflio walekadezinformaciebma imaze Tu „rasisastikiT uwyoben osebs „osur miwaze“qarTvelebi genocidsa da eTnikurwmendas“. diax, diax, saubaria cxinvalsada cxinvalis Semogarenze, didi vanomaCablisa da misi gvar-tomissamkvidrisze, osTa im „dedaqalaqze“,sadac, roca es eTnodiversiuli olqimiznobrivad Seiqmna, orad-ori osicxovrobda, xolo „leninuri xalxTaZmobis“ wyalobiT, dRes wamlad romgindodes, qarTvels ver gadaeyrebiversad, Tu is datyvevebuli an wingamorekili araa.
odesme gagicxadebiaT romelimetribunidan, rom saqarTvelos WerqveSosebi kompaqturad cxovrobenborjomis xeobaSic, kaxeTSic,saqarTvelos sxvadasxva kuTxeSi, raTqma unda TbilisSic, am „saxlikacebs“(sinamdvileSi umadurebsa daagresorebs) ubatonod xmas ar scemenarsad da isini saxlikacis uflebiTsargebloben, risi magaliTi TqvencbrZandebiT. Tumca, arc erTxel armosvliaT azrad, osi mosaxleobismxridan qarTvelebis darbevis Taobazerodesme xma amoeRoT da gaekicxoTagresori TanamoZmeebi asezRvarsgamcdari naZirlobisa daumadurobis gamo. arada, „giJvarcuad“dadgenili qarTveloba, im dros, rocaqarTveli araa daculi Tavis miwaze,msoflios TvalSi, Sin da gareTCasafrebul avmosurneTa sainformaciowyaroebis eTnodiversiaTa daadgilobrivi moRalateebis, maT SorisqarTveli kolaboracionistebisgamcemlobis wyalobiT, miCneulia osTagenocidisa da eTnikuri wmendismomwyobad da aravin svams sakontrolokiTxvas, _ ki magram „qarTvelebis miergenocidsa da eTnikur wmendaSiSekbilanebuli osoba“ arxeinadaa dadausjelad arbevs aqeT qarTvelobas,„osuri saxelmwifos“ gamoRma awiokebsmas, xolo TviTon „osursaxelmwifoSi“ qarTvelTaZvalTSesalagze arxeinad ayumbarda.
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salome _ ara salomed!
qveynis tkivilze yru roa,vacnoboT nika ruruas,mere ra, Tuki gawvimda,mas xma ar misca mTawmindam,ar gaimeta salome,arc samgled da arc salomed!
damWknari gvirgviniraRa dagrCa satrabaxo, sa-didgulo,wamebulis gvirgvini rom moirge;rogorc mixom xuTdRiani omi,rulovs,arCevnebi zustad ise moige!
_ gela ubilavasTan cixeSi ramdenimeTve gavatare. me finansuridanaSaulisTvis vixdidi erT wlamdesasjels. sakanSi davaxlovdiT. me masgulwrfelad vuyvebodi istoriebs CemsSesaxeb. mouyevi Cemi kontaqtebis Sesaxeb,romelic mravali wlis manZilze mqondaZalovani uwyebebis maRali TanamdebobispirebTan. is mekiTxeboda garkveul de-talebs da mec vpasuxobdi da vuyvebodisxvadasxva saqmeebis Sesaxeb, romelTagaxsnaSic mec vmonawileobdi.daaxloebiT erT Tveze naklebi mrCebodacixis datovebamde, roca gela ubilavammomiyva sazareli danaSaulis Sesaxeb,romelSic Turme is kud-isa da samxedropoliciis maRalCinosnebTan erTad mon-awileobda. erT-erTi aseTi saqme iyosamegreloSi gasaidumloebuli saflave-bis arseboba. ubilava marwmunebda, romam saflavebSi (igulisxmeba saakaSvilisdro) Zalovani uwyebebis mxridan Catare-buli gasaidumloebuli operaciebisdros mokluli adamianebi arian dakrZa-luli. misi mtkicebiT, am saidumlosamarxebSi aris dakrZaluli daviT cin-deliani. ai, is sawyali biWi, satyeo de-partamentSi rom muSaobda da omisdros rom gauCinarda.
_ da ra giTxraT ubilavam cindelia-nis Sesaxeb?
_ gela ubilava miyveboda, rom zustadar icoda, ra teritoriaze mokles cin-deliani, Tumca mogvianebiT misi cxedarisamegreloSi saidumlo samarxis teri-toriaze miitanes da iq dakrZales. cin-delianis garda, am samarxebSi araerTiadamianis cxedari ganisvenebs, maT Soris,rogorc man miTxra, afxazeTSi gauCinare-buli pirebic. saubaria afxazebze, rom-lebic iqaurma specsamsaxurebmamoiSores Tavidan da qarTuli specsam-saxurebis daxmarebiT samegrelos ter-itoriaze misTvis cnobil saidumlosamarxebSi damarxes.
_ ra mizani amoZravebs ubilavas,ratom gagimxilaT es ambavi?
_ ubilava acxadebs, rom is adu-aSvilis mkvlelobaSi ar monawileobda,Tumca sxva amaze mZime danaSaulebSimiuRia monawileoba. mas surs, gamoZiebas-Tan iTanamSromlos da miawodos in-formacia gasaidumloebul saflavebze.swored amaze SevTanxmdiT. me mas davpir-di, rom maRali Tanamdebobis pirebs mi-vawvdidi aRniSnul informacias da mas-
Tan gaformdeboda saproceso garigeba.is cixes datovebda da amis sanacvloddaasaxelebda im adgilebs, sadac saidum-lo saflavebia.
_ gela ubilava Tavadac monawileobdagvamebis damarxvaSi?
_ is acxadebda, rom mas araerTidanaSaulis Cadena mouwia rogorcsaqarTvelos, aseve afxazeTis terito-riaze da icis am saflavebis arsebobisSesaxebac. me es informaciebi Sesabamisuwyebebs mivawode, Tumca ratomRac arSedga molaparakeba ubilavasa daZalovnebs Soris. ratom, es CemTvis uc-nobia.
gela ubilava samarTaldamcvelebma2012 wels daakaves. is, ramdenime pirTanerTad, biznesmen avTandil aduaSvilisSekveTil mkvlelobaSi monawileobdada erT-erT organizatorad moiazrebo-da.
swored am saqmis ganxilvis drossasamarTlo procesebze gela ubilavamskandaluri Cveneba misca da ganacxada,rom misi xeliT megis qardava da koxtakodua maTTvis arasasurvel pirebsiSorebdnen. „praimtaimis“ informaciiT,gela ubilavas interesebs dRemde icavsadvokati daviT modebaZe. Cven SevecadeT,yvela is informacia gadagvemowmebina,romelic ubilavas yofilma Tanamesaknemmogvawoda.
daviT modebaZe, gela ubilavas ad-vokati:
_ b-no daviT, gela ubilavam TavisCvenebaSi namdvilad daadastura koxtakoduasTan da megis qardavasTan Tanam-Sromlobis faqti?
_ ki, sasamarTloze misca aseTi Cvene-ba...
_ da Tqva, rom mas avalebdnen adami-anebis moSorebas?
_ diax, aseTi ram marTlac Tqva..._ gela ubilavas Tqveni meSveobiT
xom ar ucdia prokuraturasTan sapro-ceso garigebaze molaparakeba?
_ iciT, ra? Tqven iseT raRacas mek-iTxebiT, rom me am Temaze ver visaubreb.gasagebia, rom Jurnalisti xarT, Tqvenamas acxadebT, magram me xom ar vicizustad? iqneb, romelime uwyebis Tanam-Sromeli xarT? amitomac Cemi pasuxiiqneba, rom ar mimimarTavs prokuratur-isTvis garigebasTan dakavSirebiT.
_ amas imitom meubnebiT, rom zustadar iciT, var Tu ara Jurnalisti?
_ diax, me maqvs Cemi ganawesi, konfi-dencialurobis dacva da sxvadasxvavaldebulebebi. aqedan gamomdinare, meSeiZleba Zalian mindodes am Temazesaubari, magram ver vsaubrob.
_ kargiT, bolo kiTxvas dagisvamTda Tu SeiZleba, an uaryaviT an dagvi-dastureT. Tqveni dacvis qveS myofTangela ubilavasTan gqoniaT Tu arasaubari samegreloSi arsebul gasaidum-loebul saflavebTan dakavSirebiT?
_ irakli, ver gipasuxebT... ver gipa-suxebT... ver gipasuxebT.
arc uaryofs da arc adasturebs in-formacias, rom misTvis cnobilia skan-daluri saqmis detalebi, romelicsamegreloSi gasaidumloebul samarxebsukavSirdeba. daviT modebaZe CvenTansaubarSi eTikis normebsa da standar-tebs iSveliebda imis asaxsnelad, romver isaubrebda aRniSnul Temaze. sain-teresoa am skandaluri informaciisgaxmaurebis Semdeg gauCndebaT Tu araubilavasa da mis advokats detalebzesaubris survili, mas Semdeg, rac dar-wmundebian, rom am TemiT „praimtaimia“dainteresebuli da ara romelime spec-samsaxuri.
demokratiis paradoqsebi _ arCevnebis gakveTilebi da politikuri striptizivinc „nacebs“ irCevs, is irCevs
eris ganadgurebas, tiraniis gagrZe-lebas
faqtebi gansjisaTvis: saqarTveloSi,,nacebis“ 500 000 amomrCevelia, anu sa-xelmwifo damnaSave, saqarTvelo veraitans amerikul partias _ ase rom,,nacebs” perspeqtiva ara aqvT.
politika azartul TamaSs daems-gavsa, politikosTa SerkinebasamomrCevelTa brZolac miemata.lamisaa erTmaneTs daerion ada-mianebi, TavianT rCeuls, TavianTpozicias icaven, araTu politi-kuri, xelCarTuli brZoliTac _maTi rCeuli jobia, qveyanas ukeTmoemsaxureba! Tumca, ara mgoniaes iyos mizezi, eseni saxelmwi-foebrivad moazrovneebs ar gvanan.yvela partias mmarTvelobaze, mTe-li gundiT xelisuflebaSi mosv-laze aqvs pretenzia, magram ar-Cevnebma sul sxva realoba aCvena_ ori sami partiis garda yvelagariya politikuri asparezidan,Tumca ixtibars ar itexen da Ta-vianTi 1%-iani partiis marcxs (al-baT, meaTed) gayalbebas abraleben,zogs eyo vaJkacoba da politikurmoRvaweobas Tavi gaaneba. zogijiutad ganagrZobs da quCis aq-ciebiT imuqreba.
yvelaze ufro damafiqrebeliisaa, rom nacionalebis , ,reanima-cia” grZeldeba da amomrCeveliemateba. ise, paradoqsia _ erTismxriv samarTlianobis aRdgenasda ,,nacionalebis” dasjas iTxoven,meores mxriv ki nacionalebs aZ-leven ndobis mandats. es moitanaSors gamiznulma kohabitaciam damomavalSi SeiZleba xelisufle-baSic dabrundnen, Tu ase gagrZel-da loialoba da miteveba.
amboben, amis SiSiT xalxis na-wili , ,ocnebas” uWers mxars _ amfaqtorebis gamoricxva ar SeiZ-leba, magram , ,ocnebamac” unda ga-moiRos xeli _ Camoyalibdes par-tiad da akeTos erovnuli saqme,
ginda evropelobiT da ginda ame-rikasTan partniorobiT, da Tu ra-mes gadmoitanen maTgan kargs dapozitiurs, amas mivesalmebiT.
nacebma arCevnebis meore turisastikad waages, Tumca, arc esbrZola iyo STambeWdavi. ara da, espartia isev aferxebs qveynis ganvi-Tarebas, mis momavals, ase, rom po-litikuri mexsierebis devalvaciakargs arafers moitans. Tu sakons-titucio umravlesoba pozitiur Za-lebs ar eqna, ,,nacebi” yvela saWirokanonis miRebas Seaferxeben.
am arCevnebze politikurmastri ptizma gaaSiSvla saboloodviTom partiebi, _ zogisTvis par-tia saSualeba iyo TanamdebobisdaTrevis, da aki daitoves igialasaniam da misnairebma. viRacfuls akeTebda, viRac maradiopozicionrobiT sargeblobda.
amis miliaxveba im moskovisTvis(vaSingtonisa Tu haaga-briuselisTvis),„romelsac cremlebis ar sjera“, arcTqven, arc Cvens vladimer gucaevs, goCaZasoxovs, sxvebsa da sxvebs, qarTulmiwaze muxlmomagrebul da dapurebulosebs CauTvliaT saWirod.
rogor davijero, rom saqarTvelossxvadasxva mxareSi mcxovreb osebs,romelTac qarTvelebTan erTad aqvTgasayofi lxinic da Wiric, ase fexzedakidebiT SeuZliaT, uyuron amsaadamiano saxis dakargvas, risimeSveobiTac maTi Tvistomni mekobreobenumweo qarTul soflebSi. nuTu asamdegulmxurvaled samarTliani osi vermoiZebna, xmisCaxleCamde rom amcnobdacodvil dedamiwas amas!..
arada, Tqven warmoidgineT, osagresorTa mier qarTvelTa yovelidarbevis dros Tqveni TavkacobiT osmasaxlikacebma Tavi rom moiyaroT ubeduriSemTxvevis adgilze, gverdSi daudgeTdarbeuls, xma aimaRloT da msofliosxma miawvdinoT, rom osi agresorebiokupantebis miznebs axorcieleben, romqarTvelebi ar arian didmpyroblebi, esxom RmerTsac gauxardeba da aseubodiSod ar gayoveldRiurdeba osuriTareSic (rac Seexeba qarTuldidmpyroblobas, ramdenadac vici,saqarTvelos Tavdacvis saministroSi(esaa 2000-iani wlebi) romeliRacsaidumlo ganyofilebis gamge yofilaosi agresorebis erT-erTi sulierilideris qaliSvili(!)... ai, „qarTveldidmpyrobelTa“ mTeli wingaxeduleba!).
...da mainc: am bolo kviris manZilzecxinvalis mimdebared, magram gamoRmaqarTuli soflebidan TxuTmetamdeqarTveli umweo mwyemsi, rom ityvian„qitesa kaci“... _ waipanRures cxinvalisdilegisaken!..
vgrZnob ra aseT dros TavsSeginebulad, gapanRurebulad dagalaxulad, mzada var saRirsebo amboxisgamosaxatavad „karavi davce“ amadgilebSi, Tumca, isic vici, TiTqmisaravin gaigebs amas!..
miwam dauyvedreblad aWama puri,qarTvelTa yoveli darbevis dros aqrom xma aimaRloT, am mavTulxlarTebisgaswvriv daucveli qarTvelebis sarangadgaiar-gamoiaroT da Siga da SigsimarTlis xmac rom miawvdinoTmsoflioSi mimofantul sportSi naamagaradamianebs, rogor fiqrobT, es imazenaklebi Zalisxmeva iqneba, liaxvs gaRmamomuxluxe tankebs rom gaaCniaT?!.
batono leri,Tqven, rogorc parlamentis wevrs,
arCeuls osuri agresiisa da saokupaciosivrcis mimdebare soflebismosaxleobisgan, upirveles yovlisa,gevalebaT Tqveni Zalisxmevis moxmarebaimisTvis, raTa gaixarjoT qarTulisamarTlebrivi saxelmwifos, qarTvelieris goniTi ganfenis sivrceSi erovnuliSinaarsis aRorZinebisa da samoqalaqoTu erovnul-saxalxo Tanxmobisuzrunvelsayofad.
gasagebia, rom qarTuli saxelmwifoswarmatebuli momavlisaTvis saWiroaqveynis warsulis, gansakuTrebiT bolo,erTsaukunovani diversiulieTnofabrikaciebis samarTlebriv-politikuri Sefaseba da amis Sesabamisisaorganizacio daskvnebis ganxorcieleba.es aucilebelia imisTvis, raTa momavalSiaravis gauCndes imedi, rom mis mierqveynisaTvis zurgSi Cacemuli maxvilissisxlian kvals, istoria Camobans dapasuxs aravis mosTxovs.
am WrilSi unda iqnes ganxiluliTqvens mier da saxelmwifos yvelasaTanado saSualebis mier amprovokaciebis Sesaxeb miwodebuli cnobamsoflios sazogadoebriobisaTvis, romrusizmis megzurma da dasayrdenmakavkasiaSi (upirveles yovlisa,saqarTvelosa da inguSeTSi) osmaagresorebma. mas Semdeg, rac warmatebiTgaarTves Tavi bolSevizmis mier maTzegapirovnebul diversias, _ ewarmoebinaTZirgamomTxreli saqmianobadamoukidebloba aRdgenili saqarTvelosrespublikis winaaRmdeg da xeli Seuwyessaokupacio Zalebis SemoWras qveyanaSi.aseTi TanamosangreobisTvis jildoTmiiRes maTTvis qarTul miwazemiznobrivad fabricirebuli „saxelmwifowarmonaqmni“.
bunebrivia, qarTveli eris saxalxonebisadmi miqsianebulma osma agresorebma,bolSevikuri ruseTis xelSewyobiTa daqarTveli gamyidvelebisTanamonawileobiT gaweuli saqmianobissafasurad, moiTxoves da gainaRdesCrdilo qarTlSi e. w. samxreT oseTisiseTi avtonomiuri olqis Seqmna, roca
TviT termini samxreT oseTi _ ukveniSnavda Sida qarTlis gasxvaqveynebas.
vimeoreb, rogorc msofliosazogadoebriobas, SesabamissaerTaSoriso institutebs, aseve da,pirvel rigSi, os mosaxleobas, Tqvensmier, Tqveni statusis safuZvelze, undaganemartos, rom dRes osi agresorebiganagrZoben imave saqmianobas, rasacCadiodnen maTi winaprebi dawinamorbedebi. esaa adamianurobiswinaaRmdeg mimarTuli danaSauli,razedac piradad unda mimarToTgaerTianebuli erebis organizaciisuSiSroebis sabWos, evrokavSirisSesabamis instituciebsa da a. S.
diax, Tqven, rogorc osuri agresiismimdebare mxaridan arCeulma deputatma,saqarTvelos iusticiisa da sagareosaqmeTa saministroebTan erTad, jererTi, unda SeiswavloT da sayovelTaodgaasajarisoT osi agresorebisZaladobaTa Taviseburebebi da meorec,amis Sesaxeb sistematiurad kvalificiurimoxsenebebi unda waradginoT saTanadosaerTaSoriso instituciebis winaSe,riTac xeli unda Seewyos imis sworganmartebas, rom osi agresorebisZaladoba, iseve rogorc Crdilo-dasavleT saqarTveloSi (afxazeTSi)separatistuli eTnokratiis agresia,kvlavac ganagrZobs qarTvelTa genocidsada eTnikur wmendas.
Tqven, batono leri, romc ar gqondeTSesabamisi sasamsaxuro davaleba amaze,ar iRebdeT amisTvis saTanado xelfass,rogorc sportisa da axalgazrdobiskomitetis Tavmjdomares saqarTvelosparlamentSi da imavdrouladsaqarTvelos olimpiuri komitetisTavkacs, romc ar gagaCndeT Sesabamisirwmuneba, amis miuxedavad, zneoba undagkarnaxobdeT iRvawoT imisTvis, raTagverdSi daudgeT da daicvaT rogorcsaqarTvelos mosaxleoba (gansakuTrebiT,Tqveni amomrCevlebi), aseve, TqveniTanamoZmeebi, _ osi erovnebis mosaxleoba.igi unda ixsnaT upatiebeli codvisaganda axsnaT maT bolSevizmis mierSemoaRvirebuli movaleoba, romelicavalebs mas Jandarmis medReurad daudgesdiversiul davalebebs saqarTveloswinaaRmdeg, rasac, adre Tu gvian, bolomoeReba da maSin osi mosaxleoba,romelsac didi codva miuZRvis kavkasiisxalxTa Tavisuflebamoyvareobis winaSe,veRar ipovis TavSesafars am cisqveSeTSi.
es Tqveni movaleobaa, batono leri,jamagiri geZlevaT amisTvis.
SegrZnebas imisa, rom me da isinierTni varT, SegrZnebas imisa, rom maTgareSe ar varsebob me da Cems gareSear arseboben isini, erTaderT, ual-ternativo daskvnamde mivyavarT – sadacar unda viyoT, vinc ar unda viyoT,Cven erTmaneTis winaSe saerTo pasuxis-mgebloba gvakisria da rodesac uarsvambobT am saerTo pasuxismgeblobaze,amiT uars vambobT sakuTar Tavze.
me mgoni, samSoblos Ralati sxvaarc araferia, Tu ara uaris TqmasaerTo pasuxismgeblobaze.
ramden qarTvels aucremlda Tvalebiim dRes am SemaZrwunebeli kadrebisnaxvisas, ramdeni qarTuli muSti Seikrasimwrisa da boRmisagan?
ar vici, ver getyviT, magram is kivici, rom saqarTvelo karga xania,orad aris gayofili – erT mxares bed-nieri, maZRari, kmayofili, mxiaruli,uzrunveli saqarTvelo, meore mxares– ubeduri, mSieri, devnili, damcirebu-li da Seuracxyofili...
– ara, Cven mSobliur enaze gvindaswavlao, – iuara telekameris win erTmamegrelma, iuara arcTu ise xeirianiqarTuliT, rbili l-Ti da megruliintonaciiT.
gana am megrelma ar icis, rommegruli enac misi mSobliuri enaa, ma-gram mas maincdamainc qarTul enazesurs ganaTleba miaRebinos TavisSvilebs, radgan man icis, rom qarTuliena saxelmwifo enaa, qarTuli sax-elmwifoebriobis simboloa da amenisTvis uaris Tqma qarTuli sax-elmwifos uaryofas, am saxelmwifossivrcidan gasvlas niSnavs.
am megrelma, saukuneebis winaT, nebay-oflobiT Seswira msxverplad TavisiumSvenieresi, umdidresi megruli enasaerTo qarTuli saxelmwifos Seqmnisideas, rom am saxelmwifoSi qarTulTanerTad megrulic gadaerCina, rogorc
qarTuli Ziri da fesvi, misi ganuyofelinawili, gadaerCina Tavisi Tavi, TavisiTviTmyofadoba da ganumeorebloba.
magram – arao! – uTxres am gulu-bryvilo megrels da megrulad naTqvamisityva qarTulad ar CauTvales, enadauwunes, sakuTar saxlSi ucxodagrZnobines Tavi, erTmaneTSi megruladsaubari lamis separatizmad mounaTles,daakompleqses, daTrgunes.
qarTvelisa da qarTuli saxelmwifosarsis arasworma gagebam, saqarTveloserTianobis yalbad gagebulma koncef-ciam Sva gaucxoebisa da undoblobisatmosfero, romelic xan ras mogva-landebs da xan – ras...
rogor xdeba es – galSi, gnebavT,samaCabloSi omia, danarCensaqarTveloSi ki mSvidobaa da imaveqarTul teleekranebze iseTi dimpi-tauri da hariharalea gaCaRebuli, TuZalian fxizlad ar iqnebi, SeiZlebadagaviwydes, rom Sens samSobloSi omia!
aki bevrs daaviwyda kidec da amsisxliT da cremliT gapoxil ekranzeaxla Tavis ubadruk bednierebas, Tavisubadruk simdidres hfens da sulac aradardebs, ras ityvis amaze is galelideda, romelsac galidan walenjixaSimihyavs Svili, rom iq rogorme qarTulskolaSi aswavlos da qarTveladaRuzardos saqarTvelos.
ukiduresad uWirs am dedas –SvilisTvis xeiriani tansacmeli veruyidia, normalurad ver gamoukvebavs,magram am gzas, saqarTvelosken mimavalgzas, mainc jiutad ar Tmobs!!
– jer aq gadauares xuTgzis, mere kiafxazeTSi Casdies, – ufro amZafrebenam Sefasebas sxvebi – iqidan ki kodorisxeobiT gadmorekes da mTelsaqarTveloSi dafantes – rogorc cix-eSi, ise gamoketes sastumroebSi, saerTosacxovreblebSi, mitovebul SenobebSi,TerTmeti lari miugdes da iq sikvdilsgadarCenilni, aq gaswires sasikvdilod.
asea Tu ise, mTels am cudad abur-dul-daburdul varaudebSi erTi ramudavoa – afxazeTSi qarTvelobis didinawili megruli warmoSobisaa dasamegrelos daCoqebis Semdeg afxazeTSigalaSqreba megrelTa xerxemalSigadamsxvrevis mcdelobad rom Sefas-deboda eWvis mTesvelTa mecadineobiT,es sulac ar aris gasakviri.
xandaxan vfiqrob, marTlac ZalianWkvianurad da veragulad xom ar imuSavaZalian Wkvianma da veragma mterma dasisxliani drama, romelic qarTvelebmagaiTamaSes erTmaneTTan da romelSicmogvianebiT afxazeTis Temac CaerTo,im Wkviani da veragi mteris mier xomar iyo dawerili?
am dramaSi mTavar rolebs Cven,qarTvelebi ki vTamaSobdiT, magram arvicodiT, ras vtamaSobdiT da rogoriiqneboda am TamaSis finali.
jer samegrelo unda daemarcxebinaTsamegreloSi, rom mere advilad dae-marcxebinaT saqarTvelo afxazeTSi –ai, ra amocana daisaxa viRacam da esamocana warmatebiT Seasrula kidec!
diax, afxazeTSi qarTvelTa genocidiganxorcielda da radgan es qarTvelebiimavdroulad megrelebi arian, imisTqma, rom es iyo megrelTa genocidi,maincdamainc did azrobriv cdomilebasar unda Seicavdes.
– afxazeTis sakiTxi samegreloSiwydeba! – am mosazrebas Zalian bevriqarTveli politikosi imeorebs sx-vadasxva variaciiT da SeferilobiT,magram aravin ambobs, ra resursebidarCa golgoTis gzagamovlil samegre-los afxazeTis sakiTxis gadasawyve-tad.
samegrelo saqarTvelos xerxemalia,– yvelas gvaxsovs es frTiani fraza.
da Tu samegrelo saqarTvelos xerx-emalia, maSin zustia mtris gaTvla –am xerxemals gametebiT unda irtya,dalewo, dafSvna, rom saqarTvelommyarad fexze dgoma ver moaxerxos.
ara marto afxazeTis qarTveloba,TviT im adamianebis 60-70 procenti,romlebic dRes afxazeTSi cxovrobenda TavianT Tavs afxazebs uwodeben,warmoSobiT megrelebi arian!!!
Zalian gulwrfelad da alalad TuCavuRrmavdebiT afxazur sakiTxs, essakiTxi afxazuri ki ara, megruli sak-iTxi gamodis, ufro zustad – megrul-afxazuri!
saqme is aris, rom es megreli, romel-ic TviTon iyo afxazi anu afxazeTisteritoriaze mcxovrebi qarTveli, dro-Ta ganmavlobaSi afsuur enaze ame-tyvelda da afsuad gadakeTda, saxeliafxazi ki SeinarCuna.
ase miviReT afsuur enaze molaparakemegreli afxazebi anu afsuur enazemolaparake qarTvelebi, romlebmac af-suaTa mwiri rigebi Seavses, gaaZlieres,gaamravalricxovnes da afxazebad gad-moTargmnil afsuebTan erTad SeqmnesadamianTa is gaerTianeba, romelsacdRes afxaz ers veZaxiT.
rom moxdes saocreba da kaxeTSipankiselma qistebma kaxelebi dairqvan,kaxelebis erTi nawili ki qisturadametyveldes da mere orivem erTad imismtkiceba daiwyos, kaxelebi mxolodisini arian, romlebic qisturad la-parakobeno, xom gagikvirdebaT?
„principSi, saqarT-velosTan uvizo reJimisSesaZleblobas argamovricxavT. ra Tqmaunda, am sakiTxisadmimidgomisas, saWiroaSesabamisi procesebiswinaswar gaTvaliswinebaevrokavSirsa dasaqarTvelos Soris“, _ganacxada grigorikarasinma.
rogorc man aRniSna,2012 wlis Semdeg, rode-sac briuselma da Tbil-isma vizaliberalizaci-aze molaparakebebi dai-wyes, TbilisisTvismomzadda detalurisamoqmedo gegma, romlisSesrulebazec Tbilisiregularulad abarebdaangariSs.
„saubaria did daSromatevad samuSaoze,romelic, savaraudod,
Seicavda mWidro sax-el m w i f oT a S or i s ourTierTmoqm edebassagareo da sxva uwyebe-bis xaziT. uneblied Cn-deba SekiTxva, ramdenadrealuria aseTisamuSaos SesrulebaruseTsa da saqarTvelosSoris, diplomatiuriurTierTobebis ararse-bobis dRevandel viTare-baSi?“, _ ganacxadakarasinma.
man aRniSna, romdaaxloebiT erTi wliswin moskovma saqarTve-los moqalaqeebisTvisruseTis vizis aRebisprocesi mniSvnelovnadgaamartiva. ase TandaTanunda gaixsna is gordiaskvanZi, rac saqarTvelos,oaxvies Tavs nacdaS-nakebma da maTma narko-manma beladma mixeilsaakaSvilma.
{vsbc!lwbsbdyfmjbt!cmphjbatono roland,
unda vaRiaro, rom gazeT “ilorSi” dabeWdiliTqveni werili: “me ukve 75 wlisa var!” _ auRelvebladver wavikiTxe... survili gamiCnda gansakuTrebulifrazebiT gamovxmaurebodi am weril-aRsarebas, magramrogorc ki wera daviwye _ umalve gadavifiqre,radgan maRalfardovan da zemetad gadaylarWulsityvebSi albaT ikargeba is, rasac gulrwfelobahqvia... ai, aragulrwfeli ki, namdvilad ar msursviyo, miT ufro, rom saqme exeba Cveni svegamwarebulixalxis gamorCeul SvilTagan _ erTerTs, anuadamians, romelsac am sakmaod solidur asakSicrodi surs mosveneba da dRemde qarqaSSi xmalCauge-beli _ Seurigeblad, dauRalavad ibrZvis mamulisgasapartaxeblad moZalebul Savbnel ZalTa winaaR-mdeg! marTalia _ warmoudgenlad Zlieri da mzakvariamteri! marTalia _ uTanasworoa es Serkineba! magram,miuxedavad amisa, mwams, rom Tqveni da Tqvennairi ma-muliSvilebis brZola fuWi ar iqneba! diax, ariqneba amao es suliskveTeba! ar iqneba, radgansakraluri da samarTliani saqmis aRsrulebisaTvisZalisxmevaSi uflis Semweobac ar daayovnebs didxans!..Zvirfaso batono roland, mets aRar gavagrZeleb,magram bolos esec minda giTxraT: namdvilad gao-cebuli var Tqveni SeudrekelobiT! minda gisurvoTxangrZlivi da bednieri sicocxle! minda ixiloT,usaTuod male ixiloT kolxa-iberiis aRorZineba!
malas qoiZirdani Surobumu odabadeSi gopirua!iriaTo gomorZgvilo qo�ofedaT!..
pativiscemiT, zurab kvaracxelia
post-saarCevnofiqrebi...
Cemo megrelebo! ai, CamTavrda wlevandeli saarCevnobataliebi da rogorc es mosalodneli iyo _xelisufleba SeinarCunes kordonebs iqedan stim-ulirebul-mxardaWerilma marionetulma politikurmaZalebma... marTalia isic, rom gamoCndnen axali sax-eebic, magram, principSi, es arafers cvlis, radganZiriTadad mainc sakanonmdeblo organo dakomle-qtebulia faqtiurad erTi da imave ideologiurplatformaze mdgomi organizaciebiT da person-aliebiT... ase rom, didi molodini erovnul-sax-elmwifoebrivi aRmSeneblobisa Cven namdvilad arunda gvqondes. Tumca, ar SeiZleba garkveuli pozi-tivic ar davinaxoT Tundac imaSi, rom miuxedavad
didi baqi-buqisa “nacionalurma moZraobam” ver moax-erxa umravlesobiT gamarjveba! ise, me rom mkiTxoskacma _ am danaSaulebrivi organizaciisTvis saerTodunda aekrZalaT arCevnebSi monawileobis miReba! ma-gram, mesmis isic, principSi Tu ratomac ar moxdaase! gasagebia es yvelaferi, radgan ybadaRebuli ko-habitaciis da evro-atlantikuri struqturebidanbrZaneba-miTiTebebis Sesaxeb xom yvelam yvelaferiviciT!.. am werilis mizanic ar gaxlavT maincdamaincaxla gavaanalizoT saarCevno peripetiebi... ubralod,Cemi mTavari saTqmeli amJamad isaa, rom Cveni kuTxismosaxleobam samwuxarod ver ipova sakuTar wiaRSiZala da amjeradac ver moaxerxa misi WeSmariti in-teresebis gamomxatvel-damcveli megruli saparla-mento lobis formireba!.. ai, esaa is, rac ZaliandamaRonebelia piradad CemTvis da albaTbevrisTvisac... rogorc iciT, saqarTvelos parla-mentSi deputatebi arCeuli arian proporciulisiiT da aseve maJoritaruli wesiT... me vfiqrob, romCvenTvis gansakuTrebiT saSuri da mniSvnelovaniiyo samegrelodan asarCevi maJoritari deputatobiskandidatebis guldasmiT jer SerCeva da Semdeg ki _arCeva, magram vaRiaroT unda, rom obieqturi Tusubieqturi mizezebis gamo es ver SevsZeliT! arada,rogorc zemoT ukve aRvniSne,, Cvens eTnoss aucile-blad sWirdeba Tavisi interesebis gamomxatveli dadamcveli lobi parlamentSi!.. cxadia, pirovnuladme araferi maqvs arCeulTa sawinaaRmdego. ampirovnebebis umetesobas arc ki vicnob piradad,magram raRac ar msmenia aqamde, rom romelime maTTa-gans odesme xma amoeRos identobis dakargvis savala-lo realobis winaSe myofi megruli eTnosisdasacavad! Zalian ki minda vcdebode, magram meeWveba,namdvilad meeWveeba, rom am Semadgenlobas iotiso-denac ki adardebdes is, razec me aq axlagesaubrebiT... arada, dro gadis... isic aSkaraa, romsamegrelos namargalizaciis procesic uswrafesitempiT mimdinareobs! am process sakanonmdeblo dastruqturuli meqanizmebiT win droulad Tu araRvudeqiT _ ramodenime aTeul weliwadSi Cven ga-davSendebiT! gavqrebiT! istorias CavbardebiT! mokvde-ba megruli eTnosi!!! bolosdabolos, unda SevignoT,unda gavicnobieroT situaciis tragizmi da aucile-blad gamovavlinoT udidesi Zalisxmeva TviT-gadasarCenad!!! ifiqreT amaze, megrelebo! ifiqreTda ar dagaviwydeT, rom kacobriobis civilizaciissaTaveebTan mdgomi uZvelesi kolxebis pirdapiriSTamomavlebi xarT!..
gavagrZeleb Temas da Jurnalistimerab xaCiZis mimarTvas gagacnobT.
„saqarTveloa erTaderTi, sadacmkvlelebs parlamentSi irCeven,xelfass aZleven da mere „paJizneni“pensias uniSnaven, rogorc yofil dep-utats (?!)... da amis mere, Cven is xalxivarT, visac Tavmoyvareoba gaaCnia, sin-disis Semoteva awuxebs da sakuTariSTamomavlobisa da qveynis bed-iRbalida momavali raimed uRirs?! eqvTimeTayaiSvilis kubos rom oTxi kacigavyvebiT da sandras mowyobilsaarCevno Sexvedrebs _ oTxi aTasi, isxalxi varT Cven!“.
gakveTilebi „damoukidebeli mediis“ generaluri prokurorisTvisboRma adamians bevr sisuleles da
sicrues alaparakebs. es „seni“ yvelasSeiZleba Seeyaros da Turme arc medi-amenejerebad gardaqmnil mTavarprokurorebs indobs.
ai, ra Tqva „rusTavi 2“-is mTavarmaprokurorma... ukacravad, generalurmadireqtorma nika gvaramiam „tvpirvelze“, inga grigolias gadacemaSi.telewamyvani da gvaramia saubrobdnen„rusTavi 2“-Si aSS-s elCis ian kelisramdenime dRis winandel vizitze.gvaramiam sul uprecedento eZaxa amfaqts – aqamde sad ginaxavT, romamerikis elCi mediasaSualebas stum-robdeso. grigolias Seaxsenes, romaSS-s moqmedi da wina elCebi (iankeli, jon basi...) iyvnen stumrad „pal-itra mediaSi“...
am dros gvaramiam niri ar Seicvalada: „me ar maxsovs aseTi SemTxveva, „me-dia palitraSi“ vin mivida da ratommivida, „media palitras“ me saerTodar aRviqvam seriozul moTamaSed mediabazarze, momitevon kolegebma (aseTqva, kolegebmao..), is aris mcire,patara televizia da iq vin ratommivida, es arc Tqven gaxsovT da arcme da es xazs usvams „palitra mediis“masStabebsac da masSi amerikis elCisstumrobis masStabebsac...“- o(!)
pirvel rigSi, „momitevon kolegebSi“Tu Cven gvgulisxmobda, misamarTi SeS-lia gvaramias. Tavisi kolegebi proku-raturaSi unda eZebos da imedia, isinimiuteveben.
Cven ki, amjerad davxarjavT Zvirfasdros da mediabazris patara gakveTilsCavutarebT dRevandel „medi-aprokuror“ nikas.
gakveTili pirveli _ gvaramiam „rus-Tavi 2“-Sive rom gaikiTxos, darwmuneb-uli var, ar daumalaven da etyvian,
rom ukve 21 weli Seusrulda yvelazegavlenian da maRaltiraJian gazeT„kviris palitras“. gvaramia Tu Tavis„kuriers“ mainc uyurebs, naxavs, romarc Tu iSviaTad, „rusTavi 2“-is sain-formacio gamoSvebebSi citatebs kiTx-uloben swored „kviris palitraSi“gamoqveynebuli statiebidan.
sxvaTa Soris, rodesac aSS-s elCiian keli „palitra medias“ stumrobda,man „kviris palitras“ misca eqskluz-iuri interviu da „kurierma“ mTelidRis ganmavlobaSi am interviudanamonaridebs sakmaod vrceli dro dauT-mo. imedia, „mediaprokurorisTvis“ imisaxsna mainc ar dagvWirdeba, Tu raaris „kurieri“.
gakveTili meore nikasTvis – yvelazegavleniani sainformacio saagento „in-terpresniusi“ swored „palitra mediis“SemadgenlobaSia. gasagebad rom avxsnaTgvaramiasTvis – ai, is saagento, yvelarom elodeba, Tu iq ganTavsda infor-macia, e.i. namdvilad xdeba esa Tu ismovlenao. amas gvaramias kolega-prokurorebic ki daudastureben.
gvaramia „feisbuqis“ aqtiuri mox-marebelia da mravalferovanipostebiTac gamoirCeva – politikiTdawyebuli da romelime speqtaklisgarCeviT damTavrebuli. hoda, ai mesamegakveTilic – nika, saqarTveloSi „feis-buqi“ internetmomxmareblebis popu-larobis kuTxiT meore adgilzea,pirvelze ki „palitra mediis“ sain-formacio portali „AMBEBI.GE“. IRIxom ici? saerTaSoriso respublikuriinstitutis 2016 wlis kvlevebis mixed-viT, internetmomxmarebeli informa-ciis misaRebad yvelaze xSirad swored„AMBEBI.GE“-s stumroben, meore adg-ilze ki „feisbuqia“.
„palitra mediis“ yvela medi-
asaSualebaze cal-calke romSevCerdeT, mkiTxvelsac davRliT da„mediaprokurorsac“ davzafravT. amit-om modiT, cifrebiT visaubroT. „pal-itra mediis“ SemadgenlobaSi aris 20-mde onlainmediasaSualeba, televizia,radio, gazeTebi da Jurnalebi da yve-lani TavianT segmentSi arian lid-erebi.
„palitra mediis“ mxolod onlain-mediasaSualebebs dReSi hyavT 700aTasze meti unikaluri momxmarebeli.„mediaprokurors“ praqtikul gakveTil-sac vTavazobT – moimarjvos kalku-latori da gamoTvalos, dReSi 700aTasze meti ramdenia kviraSi, TveSida welSi da Semdeg, Tu nulebi kalku-latoris ekranze daetia, daakvirdesmonacemebs da sakuTar TavTan martoddarCenilma, nela gaimeoros pirdapireTerSi naTqvami sityvebi: „media pali-tras“ me saerTod ver aRviqvam seri-ozul moTamaSed media bazarze ... isaris mcire, patara televizia“.
da Tu sakuTari Tavis ar Sercxveba,maSin mas ukve mediagakveTilebi kiara, fsiqologiuri treningi sWirdeba.Tu „palitra mediis“ axali mediapro-duqtis, telekompania „palitraniusis“(is mxolod erTi wlisaa) warmatebebiise aRelvebs gvaramias, rom absurdsalaparakebs, maSin mivaswavliT aseve„palitra mediis“ sait „MKURNALI.GE“-s, sadac SeuZlia dasvas kiTxvebi, Turogor gaTavisufldes boRmisgan. 20aTasze meti momxmareblidan vinme au-cileblad gamoexmaureba mis Txovnas.
zogadad, gvaramias intervius mciremonakveTi cifrebSi rom gadaviyvanoT,vnaxavT, rom „mediaprokurorma“daaxloebiT 2 wuTSi Tqva 3-4 orlu-liani tyuili, 1 didi Seuracxyofamiayena elCs (roca misi Cvens hold-
ingSi vizitis masStabebSi eWvi Seitana)da kidev 1 didi Seuracxyofa yvelamediasaSualebas, roca Tqva, rom Turmemxolod „rusTavi 2“-ia is media, romel-ic mTavrobaze ar aris damokidebuli.
“adamianebis dasaqmeba kar-gia, magram es xalxi ukve iseaTurqeTze mibmuli, rom monurSromasac ki ar aprotestebs!anu adamianebisTvis ukvemTavari gaxda ara Rirseba,aramed yvela xerxiT gaWirve-bisgan TavdaRweva. isini,oRond ojaxSi puris fuliSeitanon, yvelafers iTmenen!anu Cven miviReT viTareba,rodesac Turqebma qarTvelebiukve saqarTveloSive daimones!
ager xelvaCaurSi arisTurqeTis moqalaqis mier da-fuZnebuli avejis mwarmoebeliqarxana. amaswinaT, mepatronem,yovelgvari mizezis gareSe,70 TanamSromeli gaaTavisu-fla. rodesac iq Cavedi, gavige,
rom es vaJbatoni pirdapirvaSalomiZesTanaa gadaf-skvnili da aWaraSi misixelmZRvanelobis dros gadai-furCqna,” _ acxadebs Tamaz
bakuriZe.
rogorc uflebadamcveli
ambobs, saakaSvilma TurqeTs
aWara namdvilad mihyida da
amas Tavad xedavs.
“ s a a k a S v i l i sgadawyvetilebiT, Turqebssul erT larad daurigesaTasobiT heqtari uZvirfasesimiwebi, romelTa fasi 3 aTasidolari da metia! da rodesacamboben, saakaSvilma TurqeTsaWara mihyidao, es srulisimarTlea, radgan amas me daCemnairebi aWaraSi sakuTariTvaliT vxedavT!” _ ambobs
saocari msaxiobi da adamiani iyo da yovelgansaxierebul gmirs sakuTari rainduli Tvise-bebiT amdidrebda. amis naTel magaliTad misigansaxierebuli raJa sarCimeliac kmara, romel-ic uaryofiTi gmiria, magram kinomayureblebSidaTa TuTaSxiasa da muSni zarandiaze naklebisimpaTia ar daumsaxurebia. ramdenime aTeulfilmSi iTamaSa da yvela roli imdenad STam-beWdavad Seasrula, rom dResac kargad axsovsmayurebels, misi kinofraza ekranidan xalxSigadainacvlebda xolme da xalxur TqmasaviTpopularuli xdeboda. marTlac gansakuTrebulixibliT gamoirCeoda. da ukve ori weliwadia,es adamiani ar aris Cvens gverdiT.
an calke mdgomi sasaxle iyos.arqeologi roland isakaZe pirvel
versias emxroba, radgan misi sityvebiT,arqeologiuri masala miuTiTebs, romsavaraudod satrapezo me-13 saukuneSiganadgurda:
“rogorc viciT es taZari mecametesaukunis bolosaa aSenebuli. sadRacmecamete saukunis SuaxanebSi rogorcareqologiuri masala da aq aRmoCenilinivTebi miuTiTebs, aq moxda didi ngre-va. am dros dasavleT saqarTveloSiaris monRolebis laSqroba, magramCven aqamde werilobiTi wyaroebiT
quTaisis regionze gvaqvs informacia,ar viciT iyo Tu ara is ase RrmadkolxeTis teritoriaze. magam nivTebigviCvenebs, rom mecamete saukunes aqiyo ngreva, daingra es eklesia dasatrapezo”, _ ambobs arqeologi.
arafris Tqma ar SeiZleba, magramsavaraodod es aris Zalian adreuliperiodis nageboba Tavisi sardafebiT,kibeebiT... mas aqvs aseve monumenturikibe. marTalia es monastris terito-riazea, magram aris sul sxva xasiaTisnageboba. aseTi nagebobebi saerTodZalian cotaa SemorCenili da es Zalianzrdis mis mniSvnelobas”, _ ganmartavsgogita Citaia.
cota Znelia, uxerxulic ki aris, ilaparakoSeni cxovrebis Tanamgzavrze, miskeTilSobilebaze, yuradRebasa da pativiscemazepacientebisadmi, romelsac is iCenda medicinisdargSi Tavisi xangrZlivi muSaobis periodSi,magram, roca faqtebi saxezea, albaT maqvs imismoraluri ufleba, rom yovelive amis Taobazeoriode sityviT movuTxro mkiTxvels.
Cemma meuRlem Joza Toloraiam soxumissamedicino teqnikumis meanobis specialobiTdamTavrebis Semdeg muSaoba daiwyo soxumissamSobiaro saxlSi. iq imuSava ramdenime weli,magram ojaxis Seqmnis Semdeg samuSaod gadavidagulrifSis raionis samSobiaro saxlSi, sadacmuSaoba ar miutovebia soxumis dacemis bolodRemde. unda aRiniSnos, rom bevrma samSobiarosaxlis TanamSromelma soxumis dacemamderamdenime dRiT adre datova samuSao da TavsuSvela.
swored, samSobiaro saxlSi muSaobisasdaimsaxura TanamSromelTa da pacientTasiyvaruli, mzad iyo, Tu pacients uWirda, Tavicgaewira. misi janmrTelobidan gamomdinareeqimebis mier akrZaluli hqonda sisxlis gacema,magram daunaxavs ra, rom pacienti sikvdilispiras iyo da icoda,rom misi sisxli Sveloda,uyoymanod gaucia. amis gamo pacientis mSoblebiSvils eubnebodnen: Sens sicocxleSi pativi eci,ar daiviwyo es qalbatoni, man xom sicocxlegaCuqao.
mis keTilSobilebaze metyvelebs erTifaqtic. svaneTis gziT, rom gadavdiodiT,
gaero-m Tavis angariSSi „mdgradiganviTarebis 17 mizani“ nomer meoremiznad SimSilobis dasruleba, kvebiTiusafrTxoebis miRweva, gaumjobesebulikveba da mdgradi soflis meurneobisxelSewyoba daasaxela 2030 wlisTvis.
„kvebiTi usafrTxoebis problemismosagvareblad da gaero-s miznebismisaRwevad, saWiroa, rom soflis meur-neobis seqtori ufro produqtiuligaxdes efeqturi biznes modelebismiRebiTa da kerZo da sajaro seqtorispartniorobis gaZlierebiT“, _ aR-niSnavs msoflio ekonomikuri forumida dasZens, rom am yvelafrisSeusruleblobas mohyveba SimSili,kvebis gauareseba da konfliqtic ki.
magaliTebis moyvana kidev SeiZleba.erTicaa: nakrebSi mosaxvedrad mxolodkargi TamaSi ar kmara. unda ajoboimas, vinc im poziciaze TamaSobs. saer-Tod, roca nakrebs exeba saqme,daaxloebiT Tanabari donisfexburTelebidan xdeba arCevanisgakeTeba. me kargad vici saqarTvelosnakrebis istoria da ver vixseneb, romromelime fexburTeli brwyinavda damas ar dauZaxes nakrebSi. SeiZleba,mxolod odnav ukeTesi iyo im etapzenakrebs gareT darCenili imaze, vincerovnul gundSi TamaSobda.
_ Zalian gvainteresebs Tqveni azrigiorgi Wanturiaze. vladimer vaismagasaxdelSi momxdaris gamo is nakrebSiar gamoiZaxa bolo ori TamaSisTvis,Tumca, iqve aRniSna, rom WanturiasTviserovnuli nakrebis kari Riaa...
_ giorgi Zalian niWieria da es faq-tia. me vityodi, is imdenad niWieria,rom misi gvaris Semdeg unda iyossityva _ „eqstra“. ai, am „eqstras“Semdeg modis mravalwertili da yvelasSeuZlia, Tavad Seavsos es carieliadgili. iq SeiZleba bevr problemazedaiweros. magaliTad, xasiaTze, metgundurobaze... Cemi azriT, es isfexburTelia, romelmac nebismierSemTxvevaSi sargebloba unda moutanossaqarTvelos nakrebs.
_ viTom pretenziuli xasiaTis mi-uxedavad, me ver vixseneb oqriaSvilismier Cagdebul matCs saqarTvelos
nakrebis SemadgenlobaSi da es Zalianmaxarebs. ar aqvs mniSvneloba, rogormisdis saklubo kariera _ kargadaaTu cudad, mainc bolomde ixarjebanakrebisTvis da ar SeiZleba, es ardainaxo. is Zalian sasargeblofexburTelia Cveni gundisTvis.
_ ra Tqma unda, finalur etapzegasvla Zalian rTuli iqneba, magramgundma bolomde unda ibrZolos. CvenvnaxeT, rom am jgufSi yvelasTan Sei-Zleba TamaSi. Tu rameze gvaqvs pre-tenzia, orive matCi unda movugoTmoldovas da es savsebiT SesaZlebelia.TbilisSi warmatebiT TamaSi SegviZliauelsTanac da irlandiasTanac. orivenakrebs veTamaSeT gasvlaze da es kar-gad gamoCnda. serbeTic kargadaa dakom-pleqtebuli, magram masTanac SeiZlebamogeba...
_ ar iqneba, Tqvens mSobliur klub-Si, Tbilisis „dinamoSi“ bolo drosganviTarebul movlenebze ar gkiTx-oT...
_ winaTgrZnoba mkarnaxobs, rom vi-aCeslav groznis moyvana ar iyo mTladgamarTlebuli nabiji. amas rom vambob,Zalian minda, vcdebode. gulwrfeladminda warmatebebi vusurvo Tbilisis„dinamosa“ da groznis. rogorc iTqva,iyo evropuli variantebic. garda amisa,albaT SesaZlebeli iyo, Zalian seri-ozulad ganxiluliyo erT-oriqarTveli specialistis kandidaturac.
_ SoTa rogor grZnobs Tavs is-raelSi? Sedegebis mixedviT, TiTqos,yvelaferi kargadaa...
_ SoTa TavdadebiT muSaobs.evropaligaze „makabim“ stumrad „alk-maars“ rom mougo, am ambavs ZaliandadebiTi gamoxmaureba mohyva. erTiegaa, israelis Cempionatis bolo turismatCSi waago haifas klubTan. arada,ar iyo wasagebi TamaSi. xom iciT,
xSirad fexburTSi rogorc xdeba?mTeli matCis ganmavlobaSi aSkaradsjobda SoTas gundi metoqes. araerTidartyma iyo mowinaaRmdegis karis mi-marTulebiT, magram goli ara da argavida.
_ SoTa mimzidveli mwvrTneli undaiyos bevri gundisTvis...
