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3101 Clifton Ave, Cincinnati, Ohio 45220 513.487.3000 AmericanJewishArchives.org MS-763: Rabbi Herbert A. Friedman Collection, 1930-2004. Series F: Life in Israel, 1956-1983. Box Folder 19 17 Tantur Ecumenical Institute for Advanced Theological Studies. 1976. For more information on this collection, please see the finding aid on the American Jewish Archives website.
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3101 Clifton Ave, Cincinnati, Ohio 45220 513.487.3000

AmericanJewishArchives.org

MS-763: Rabbi Herbert A. Friedman Collection, 1930-2004. Series F: Life in Israel, 1956-1983.

Box Folder 19 17

Tantur Ecumenical Institute for Advanced Theological Studies. 1976.

For more information on this collection, please see the finding aid on the American Jewish Archives website.

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ECUMENICAL INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED THEOLOGICAL STUDIES

INSTITUT <ECUMENIQUE DE RECHERCHES THEOLOGIQUES

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To the Fol.I o·,.,":ing P( ·sons j n Th lr R• spPct. i VC:! C.iffirP.s :

r . ?,(•rr1~.rd Resn:H c"f

Ceutre "or ConGervetive • ..tu .~d.sr_ in Israel: Dr. J ... rael Ciolc1~ t.Pin, r . Pes:·ah SC:1inr:i ---------Bebr~!. Union Collef;e-.Jewi• 1 Tn~tit te o" •li.rri<'r. : J.,r. Gu ·t,is Arnson, nean Ezra

- Spiceh~ndler -- an 1 VorlrJ Uniori/Frorr. Ju.t<.ii~11 ~ 1•ct·b Friccman nd Dick Hi1·.sch

Hebrew Uril.ver s · ty: r . Bernci.,.1 Chei ! ir;t , •r . J:.cr: Ct•he:i, )r . .lehezk~l Cohen,

nr. ~.•oshe Davis, Pre· idcnt Av?Jai1ar iiam:;.in, )r. s hm;u-;vahu 'Jalir.on, Jr. l • •• erblov:sky

J.~ayor' c; ()ff' ice: F y .,.. 'I"' I I ollel.

There is noth-i.n "con·. len~ial' ;;b0 · ... hi L1'r.or<lnciuro/Report, c:-ut it should ce given wl th <li::;cret ·on to ~ z y o'Lh'~l·~ ri tiJ .~or.

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Tant u r, Z1. April , 1976

To the T antur C o mmunity:

On behalf of the Rectorate Advisory Committee, your help is reQuested in preparation for oor Spring Semester Community Evaluation Meeting scheduled for Friday, 7 ~ay, 1976, at 3 : 30 p. m . It will be helpful if you will give your written response to the ques~1ons ~n this page and return the page by Monday, 3 May, 1976, to the office of the Admirustr~tive Secretary. The r esponses of the community member s will be r eviewed by the Committee to serve as a bas is for our discussion at the 'T May e valuatlon session. Thank you l

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During the 1975/ 1976 Spring Semester what was for you the most valuable aspect of our: ' a Academic Program? d thou '-' ·:i.::iubt 1 h< .7.r.3.de:ric Jrograrn wo..s al V':::tY s on a high

l evel. I think I can sp1"ak on ; eh.?..l f' or all ~he ~·cholars-in-resi Jenee , a~ they wil l be speaking indiviriu·1lly ') their ovmocl•clf, of .course, . ''''len I say i t w~s a s t imul ating, i.nfo!"'.native, :>njo~, _ble seve!'al l! Hths. lhc public lectures, notab~y John Hov•ard ·r:oder ' s series of t re~ cm 11'I'he J1 wi-=;h Jesus anci rt.a:iical Protestanta.SU'."

b . Worship Life? ///an1 1-ura.r:t<- .u Talmon' s 11 I nterraith Dialogue in Perspective,''were not only nell attenrled by t.h'2 • 11rr- l rublic but ·"ere aelivere i r1ith eloquence ~.nd

prepared ·~i th Uripeccai::lr " Chol ·sh ~p. I coul r•ot atte.'.1d Dr . E:imond Jacob• s ~e~nar on "Current Problems in •l \ Te..;L •n·"'nt Thr>olor.J' 11 bec:.u.se my knowledge of French is not arlequate for the disr-1t~~io:1 of ~ ld'l technical .and theolopical co:rplexi ties. The C. Community Life ?///co :..oqui n . ., PO.ch ~onda,y afte,..noon nere , wd.th only one exce(Jt~on, very well orepart=>d :ml l '~ert 1: •. n':J au of uc r rofi tcd frorr. the ~cholarly v.ork O.!. ou1 collearues: Everyone o• • lS to · a-r€e•• '{,h'1.t. t.he ,":r1nar on "Current Is:::ue~ in t.he .. JewishfChri stian Dialog l• '' has 0~r the hir;h ;-ioint. of' t.he serre s ~er : ur...ifo:zn~y excellen Speakers, provocative ri" ,...USSi '"' '":Pll Cl10.SPn tq, 'f';5 , ;•nrl %enuine ~CUnerri"~ty. Looking back on the Spring Scmcs.cr, what one item d10 you r egar as mos unsa is

factory in connection with our :

a . Academic Program ? 7 rom i P fr.n ·epoing r''-'S,Jom'.ie it is a.pp;; rent that I found nG>thing 11unsatj sfacto!y in C0'11 i::t.l on ·.···th our Aca lemic Program. " (in the contrary, it was, as I wrote abov", "el~· ::s on a. h i.gh J r;-vel." - - I shall t!1.Prefore proceed Lo the next question, n2..:c ._.f, tr. t ·hi ch C"llt"'e ··!S l.,hE' 11 ,1orship Life. 11 Tl">ere were a num-

ber of o<'c:asi?ns,., \'ihen T -rounri , ,. 20- to-10 r:ii n~ te "ve11ing v<>spcr ::.. to be unlmaginatLve b. Worsbm Lifer ani r er<>titi is, if rot rv· n lif<·less. The .Eucha1·ist servicrs on Sri'1~ays at noon impress"~as r- ; nr, as I sai d in tiy di...: cuss ion on Jae!: :"{eir- 1 s "The Gospel and t.he Eucharist 11 col )1:uilll'1 prE se::t:i.tion, -~rg.; ng on sacerdotalism ( T chose the word with r.are and 1•L'ecis i ..,nj, As ore 1:;rln coMn1::·:1~~reP Churr-h tradition and be­lieve:: in le::s ritual rn 1 ro,.·m; li~·m 3.nrl more innov·1tive forms and extrc:;.- "qiblical ma-c. Community Life ? ///t ·•i~ls. r wns not al -. ayr, h&.f·P~' 1"1:ith the \«orship prograrn. L·r the other hc>nd, there ''" ·'C' ma;i· er\· · c• :-: whic.:lr r.:ovod i:ie deep 1.y, "uch as t!'lose in which. the Bene<ii<'tine monks obrerve ome 8'Pcial t olt season or Saint1 s day, Glenn Hinson ' s and the Sh~rn:an Family• ~· ; but '1nt a!1.¥thing co1ud he called 11unsatisfactory'•in this ar e• or in the area of 11Cow·unity Life, 11 or tnat has.be~r-tWMPrlid in every respec t . What change or changes would you propose in connection w 1 :

a. Academic program ? I ha11e only two minor· sug, ·estions to mal~e and one 11.ajor sugges· t ion. The two minor com ents t re (1) I woulrl l ike to see us revert to the cust,om of previous Y'"'~rs, as attested by Howard Root of So11thhampton and Father Fischer of Ger­many, of allowing people to s:it for· another hour at breakfast time to conti nue their ~hats over coffee, and (2) to invest in rubter caps for the chair l egs in the dining b . Worship Life ?///r oom (perh...ips some carpeting or m~q_,~as well) to diminish the in­fernal din of chair s scraping on the stone fl oors. But~'fuajor ~oint is, as I've noted i n pr i vate conversation and publ::b discussion, there should be several Jewish s cholar s in r esi dence. Here i s a great lack . That v~ have~ashrut facjlities could be told the1 before they woul d accept. As for "worship facil ities, 11 the Jews can j oin with us as c. Community Life?/// we join with Funiai entali sts, Evangel icaJ.s , and Gredc Orthodox and s ever al kinds of Catholics . The distingui. hed dipl omat,· my frien1 of l ong s tandi nt Ur. Hanan Gidor, who was a key figure in the establishment c>n:i completion of t he Ins ti­~ute, has told me that the purpose of the place, as or iginally conceived, was t o be al: inc~usive;and he has personally been disappointed, as am I , th~t he contributi~np of Jewish scholars have not been made available . ~ 1 L\"'... ~ lJ~ by the Ecumenical Inst itute. As Dr. Talman saiJhgnature · ~ i n his public lecture he r e at Tantur, "I long (Optional) f or the rlay when Jerusale~ will have a t:'U.ly ' ecumenical ' i r.sti tu te. 11 -- Eventually , yes; bu t why not no7t? When I say, 11 •• • the contributions of Jewish scholars have not been tiade availab l e , 11 I am ~~referring to our speaker s and lecturers; on the contrazy

Ithr et fetrh to the f aqt t hat t hese great men are not liv i.nD" with us here at Taniiu1·, "'-'1' a ey ane t h eir fand.lies · ould aid much t.o iil1e quiliit.y of life at Tar.tur. CHV

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~H.:.. AGE OF T~HNOLOGY FAII,;AND A OREA1· GAP IN C<l4MUNICATIONS IS THE RESUl:.T.

Israel

Excerpts from the Adnress £!: 11Christie;n Attitudes Toward the Land of Israeli "

Given _by _ _ th_e R_e_v_. _Dr_. Martin Marty, .A!Ssociate -=Editor _o_f _th_e ::Chr= i=s=t=i=a=n Century

and Professor of Church History, 'I'he Oivinity School, University of Chicago in -------- - -the Seminar on "Current Issues in the Jewish ;Christian Dialogue 11 ,Conducted by ---- ---- -- -- ·-nr. F4·anklin Sherman, Lutheran School of Theology, Cbicago, Illinois - 20 IV 1976

* * * A ladder of sympathies :

Noted at the beginning that Hathan Glaaer ' s 1958 book on Judaism in. Americ.a.. has beerfrevrri tten to include an important note about the change of afiiru8es among Jews in America with reference to I s rael . The Weirs of 1967 and 1973 ( 11The Six Day War''and~he Yom Kippur Viar," r espectively) have realigned Jewish interests and sensitivities and sympathies completely, have changed the nature of Juaaism•s priorities and emphases , and might be said to be "t.urning points,"

Then Marty proceeded to list these eleven st.Aps on the ladder:

(1) A consistent pacifism among many, illustrateqby the articl e by steven Schwar7r­schifd in t~;recent i ssue of Fellowshih, journal of the Fellowship of Reconcilia­tion. This is irst rung on the l adder ( HV in his respome noted the futility of the pacifis uch people as Martin Buber, Albert Einste i n, and Judah Uagnes, all of whom changed/\their minds in the case of Hitlerism and its defeat, With only John Haynes Holmes, cherished friend of all three, remaining adamant in his pacifism, whether with reference to Nazism or Zionism ~ i. e. the political action neces­sary to bring about a Jewish comn.onweal th . Noted that Reinhold Niebuhr tried to make the Bubers, and Magneses1 and Einsteins, et al. realize that no one QIU.ld bring about a bi-national state of J ews and Arabs oeing equal, if for no other reason than that th~ Arabs were much more sroli.fic in their birth rate and the st.ate woul J not remain equally J eWish apd Ar.ab . Marty had noted this pacifism Was 11 the least useful to Israel in the r e al --world . The tape cassette broke in the middle of. the taP',.of 45 minutes on each side;

and thus points 1 to 5 are given only a brief treatn:ent, for I (CHV) was able to

rely solely on my scribbled notes for the response of ten minutes at the conclusion and my memory of what had been said. The tape f ;iiled to function for points l to So

(2) Mutual self-interest~ ...Pereby it is to the interest of the u. S . A. that it ~afs::i"~.~ddle East a successfully working democracy. The u. s. rloesn•t want

i t _.to go~ because it is~ light to the world/'

See note re brpken tape for point s 1 to 5, ANO MARGINAL GLOSSl

Tantur, on the main road to Bethlehem

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(J) Israel's "gi.venness 11 - a fact or Middle East life. It is here and it has a right to exist. Its seQurity is needed, for it is not in a very secure posi-tion •

See note re broken tc:pe in point 1. AND MARGINAL G.La>S

(CHV in his ten minnte response wanted to note -- but had no chan:e tt!> do so because of. a lack of time -- that, by the rights ot self-determination granted after \lorld War Ole and guaranteed by the charter of the League of Nations, there were now twenty Arab nations, occupying 11 6001 000 square miles, much of it underdeveloped and un<lerpopulated, and comprisi~ over lJ0,0001 000 Arabs.)

(4) Compensatory support - rPt.'Ult of the Holocaust and aided accordingly by hf-lp from Gennany lifiich was responsible for 11 • • Israel is here And very much here.

See note re brol<en ta}i·e ic1 point 4 AHO MARGINAL GUSS

(CPV in his response noted that more than the Holocaust brought about Israel, for 'there han been the age-old longirv for the Lann and the repeated prayers and 1·eit­erated promises, as renected so vivirlly ;>nn movingly in the Passover Haggadah of the recently celPbrated Sedar 'ilhen verees were recited and prayers uttered which for centuries ha'i referred to the rebuilding of Zion, the reconstruction of Jerusa­len, the reestablishment of IsraelJ ~nd all this at times :when the Land was starved, parched1 and barren.)

(S) Moral conmitment - - Reference made by Marty to the occasion when Trw;ian had been referred to as having resembled Cyrus in restoring the Jews to their ancieni home land• and Truman had then responded, "But I am Cyrus, I am Cyrus." The prcf'.'l\S'-

has been made not to go back on the whole proces; that led to t'?m establishment of the state of I srael. Christian people shoul3'e a reminder to the nation of . what it means to make a promise and then keep it, not abandoni~ t)ny Israel.

See note re broken tape in point 1, AND "MARGINAL GLOOS.

Tancur, on the main road to Bethlehem

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(6) Millenial ttograas - the many sects, most of ~he nineteenth and twentieth centuries1 who liK the reestablishment of Israel nth the Secaid Com:i.!Jg ot Obrist. Marty referred to Billie Grall.ui• s film, "His Land," lfhich was so beauti ­fully photographed and could not have been more .friendly and favorable to Israel as a land and the I s raelis as a people, but which ended on an evangelistic note and spoke att1.r.matively and decisively about the inevitable, certain Second Comlng of Christ. The I sraelis find that their greatest friends are those With lilom they nave least in c ommon, the )(il.lenarians who look upon Israel's creation as Act One and their o'Wil salvation in the c cming of Christ as Act Two, ~e Big Bang aver Jeru~alem. ''

(In his response given in its entirety in the 10-minute period allotted him at the close of ibu-ty• s SO-minute addres29 OIV rmted the Tien of his daughter Carlyn and son-in-law Harold -..io,as Pentecostal1 charisma'tiic Roman Catholics look upon the establishment of Israel as a first step, then antiCipate the rebuild!ng of the Temple by the Jews - about which1 I ex:ple·Md to Carlyn and Harold, the Jews~ of Israel could not care less - but both of these events, the establishment of Israel and the reconstruction of the Temple, are the prelude to the Caning of Christ in all His glory, etc.~ etc.)

(7) God acts in history and· lthus in the L,ond of Israel in a special. w;q. This en­compasseS11Wn0er SIX, plus some ·0toor poin"=ES 'Orview.- Schube~den, a colleague of Marty•s,,once wrote an essay on "What is the will of God? 11 ,, a very difficult ques­tion to answer. n Many of ud are very diffident about saying just wh.a:t, is the will of

AT '!'HIS POINr God. That God does act in history is clear, and if one says that God placed a curse I / TJ. H. V .T of thP Jewish people until the enrl of time, he must rleal wi. th the Bible prophecies BE.UAN TO TIKE which say just the opposite and are working out in this other direction. I am r eluc-QUC'l'ABLE S~ tant to say that this and that is the will of God or that God is creating I s r ael for TIC JS FRQ THE the fulfillml"nt of His will on behalf of the Je'Wisb people. I identify with Abraham TAJ l AND THUS ""incoln 'Who was America• s best theOl~gian and said that both sides worshipped the :·Jc rED DIRECT- same God , read the same Bibl:e,, sought the same end of Victory,, and the best answer ~

{ "RCM MARTY' sto try and dis cern the lcy'sterious will of God• 80 in the case oft Israel and God.' " mos. WHEN

"I'' IS USEDJ (8)PGod acts in history and Israel•s tie to the Land is enduring. Israel's i dentifi.ca-I1' IS MAl?TY tiotl'W!t"fi""'tliel.and is mo'i=ircred16Ie ffiin many suClllns:tances~There are scores and WHO IS SAYING SCOFei"O? places in~e Scn.ptures where !sraern mentioned by Yahweh to the pro­IT. !Fm MY• phets and the enduring bond to the Land is developed and the Promise of the Return SEIF C.H.V.7 developa. I do not mean to sa:y that this promise iis to be developed only in the THR ERENCE development of a modern political state. The Promise can mean many things,, but t.h..-:it IS USUALLY the Prmmise is there does mean sanethingJ anri that is the next thing that has to be TO "CHV. n so said. If you take a transcendental Viewpoint, ' then these things do not take on

WHEN np IS that kind of meaning. The vielf of a Karl Barth is a perfectly legi ti.mate way of FOUND, IT IS looking at things. One must be wacy of identifying a single cause as the will of God~ MARTY WHO I S SPTAKING. (9)"Sympathy with Israel• s integral linlc with the Land is an integral part of their

faith. Macy J;;;; do believe this, b~e-;;ag;-~d"?ihlic relatio~f-;e thinJt that all Jews do. Zionism seemed to maey of us to be just another of the competing nationalisms of the ena of tJie. nineteenth century; its leadership -was -.Stonishin.!ly and cons istently secular. )lost of us Protestants knew few who looked upon Zio~sm with fwor, and most Reform Jews did not. But Jews W>.o said year after year, •Next year in Jerusalem,, 4' must ha-ve been saying sanething. The religiosity has been latent throuQ'h the years until 1948,, and it has become very explicit ever since."

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(Marty had saiti in this portion of'his address that until 1948, the Zionist llovement had developed under secular leadership but after that date had been chBt,ged to the extent that religionists also took part, and thus had altered its character to some extent. There was no time to develop this theme in CHV' s rebut,.. tal;and he did not havf/the presence of mind to think of a dozen different things, ranging from the religious kibb l:utzia am the Mizrachi Par1y to the religious qualities of oourage, idealism, and self-sacrifice-so apparent in Golda lleir's My Life-among the settlers from the Biluim onward into contemporary times. Qi ~other hand, CHV did have a chance to note the presence of Judge Louis Levinthal lllhose father, a famous Orthodox rabbi, gave leadership in the Zionist Movement for decades, and whose Brother, Rabbi Israel 1,evinthal, also an outstenntng rabbi, led in many phases f)f the Mcwement for years on end and still does. But CHV also mentioned the contributiom madf!by Rabbis ste~en Wise and Abba Hillel Silver; Barnett Brickner and James Heller, as well as in earlier dill's by Bernard Ehrenreich and Gustav Gottheil 1 Maximillian Heller and Bernard FelsenthalJ no less important were the guidance and encouragement which CflTle from the non-Jewish clergy, men like Dardel A. Poling, William Foxwell Albright, Francis J. McConnell, Henry Atkinson, Reinhold Niebuhr, Paul Tillich, Ralph Sockman, and Ho11ard K.LeSaurd, not to omit such eminent non-theistic humanists a.s Charles Francis Potter ahd Eduard c. Lindemano)

(lO)"Intertwined religious relationship, for one must aeparRte the histories of Jew and Christian• and thus point out the special bond of Christians to Israel and

the kin and analagous relationship of our f&iths.n •Intertwined, kin, and analagous fVl j)fb.A"fl of our faiths," these are the key words. •We have a common root. The Jews are in 1 'l I I tbe Covenant, and l'fe Christians a.re grafted ontO that stalk; and vice versa.

----{-There are not two stalks. I can show ;you endless quotations from believing Jews

/ ~ .At.. who say, lOontt say they are one thing.' My friend, ~vi Olan of Dallas, can ~t ~ - lf'f 1 up before 21 000 people at his . temple and lJay, •You are a good Jew if you believe ~ ,_. in God,• but there are many who will embrace Schubert Ogden, Rosemary Reuther and ~ )['/ ( W'fWme, saying, r'I•m 'With you because ~ou believe in God: but llhen Israel is attacked,

..- I am closer to that atheist, Golda )leir • • - This brings up the whole question of - mat Jesus Christ means in terms of being a new and fresh concept in the life of

• _$ -rJ.11[ the world and of the individual Christian; and it makes for clearer definition of - llhat it means to be a Jew and what it means :t6 be a Christian, what Judaism means

.,,._,,. n 1 ~( and "hat Christim i ty means. Anri they are indeed intertwined. This is . t.Ae next• • y f'tl.-'' to•th~ast !"Wl8 on the ladder;P.

___..,- (11) "I'he view, not held by -sel(but increasingly popular among a small, yet influential group, that Christianity• s distinctiveness · i s to be displaced by a refusion of ~two faiths, Judilsm aria chrisfa.amty. -r aonTt' agree Witll""'!t.j but I listen to it. 'Ibis is a Covenental View that concern for the Land of Israel sees " a re:t'usion of the faiths. This would come from the people who sa:y there is a danger in Number Ten that Christianity is only' a superseding, a displacement of Israel, for a displacement leade to a demeaning, and a demeaning leade ~ a rele­gation 1 to Holocausts,an~ ~he death of a mation,and so on. There is a sticky diff'erence· ·bet11een Number Ten and Number Eleven, but there is a line between them."

* * * ti;fuat l have said is far from t.he int.erest and concern of Christians who ruay

never re~d or write books which you or I would read and Wl"i te. But it is near their interests an<l concer~ nevertheless, "'1ether they know it or not.i•

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To answer Roy Eckardt concerning the writings of James Parkes and his cla:im & statement that there had allfays been a Jewish community in the Land of Palestine, »arty said, "Yes, perhaps I sboulqi>ffer 8'me clarification z this point.· I have read Parkes' big book and his littler book on Whose Land?' and they are a deves­tating o:>untering to the pe~le who, not knowing that history, see 1948 a:s a sud­den intrusion of an alien forcew"

* * * When Frank Johnson asked whether there was some distinction between 11Land of

Israel" and nstate of Israel,• Marty responded that he meant both ansfthtt they were virtually interchangeable. "! have not used the word •Land• to avoid some of the harsh political realities 'Which the word •state• comotes. I mea:bt both. 11

* * * Dr. Walter Wegner, Tantur•s rector, raised the point that there should be one·

of these eleven rungs on the ladder v1hich could be a basis on 'Which future action for peace could be built; and he sugges ted Point Three, i . e. Israel's givenness, a present d~ fact of Mid~le East life. To this Marty responded: •ryes, Point Three is stronger than point Two, namely, the idea of •mutual self-interest, whereby it is to the interest of the u. s. A. that it have in the Middle East a suoccessf'u.lly working democracy.• In the matter of •self-interest• I can picture a two-year oil embargo in whi ch a lot or Americana would ccmvince themselve~at stronger self­interest than having a friendly social democracy over here would be having an oil supply 1 in which case the llholE¢redibili ty of ~ thing we ever said about justice and legality is thrown off balance ••• • 'Ibe fusion of Point Five, •moral commit­ment, ' with point Three, •Israel• s givenness,' 'When taken together, might last longer than •mutual self-interest.' 1 Self-interest• is an important display case picture to the world to snow there are few nations in the world that allow these freedoms and have this kind of political openness. Points 'Itiree and Five are an unbeatable combination, I think. "

* * 11'lbe more the internal plural.isJJS on this space can be shown to the world, the

better off we are. That•s 1'hy I resist the •hard-lines•. 'lbat•s why I have had some problems with one you•ve mentioned, that is1 Frank Littell. Ilve been in conflict Yfi th Frank Littell who gives the impression th•t there are only two lines: there is the view that any word o~riticism· begim to lead to say they haven•t the right to exist / 'tape was garbled at t~is point because Marty spoke much too swiftly and after hearing it over and over c:gain, Y' r H•ble. svt. gave up in despair of trying to un ... . scramble iy •••• " .

* * * "A lo~ of Jews ~ll read Christianity and Crisis and say, •American Uberal

Protestantism is anti-Israel• because Six or eight people on the editorial board are and so~ o~ the W?rld 'Council leadership and some of the National Council p1 Churche~ of Christ ~ JJn~rica.7 ~e~dershipo Now they came by this honestly. I.et' s "Say one sid6 cam~ to t his ~1 te Tegi tl.tnately. 'l'hat is to say th at leaders of the Eecumenical. int.e~ national orp,amzations tended to know more Arabs than they had known Jews So wl r Nn into ~oward Schomer why he ' s Arab h • ien Araos • ~He s a personal paciJ'! st buf.1 wh"' awk!ll because he• s al.Vlays been With the

Tantur, on the llfaln raa! ~bitJldlerwoulti mean the end of Israel."

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~'•POPE PAUL VI V.OULD 00 WELL TO CIRCUIARTZE THE PRAYER WRITTEN BY HIS

PREDECESSOR, POPE JOHN XIII!, JUST BEFORE HE DIED IN 1963. POPE JOHN XIII I

li.tD-C<MPOSED BUT FAILED TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO CIRCULARIZE THIS POIGNANT

PRAYER:

"WE ARE coNScrous TODAY, 0 GOO, THAT MANl CENTURIES OF BLINDNESS HAVE CI.OAKED am EYES so

SO THAT WE CAN NO LONGER EITHER SEE THE BEAUTY Cll THY CHO:>EN PEPPLE at RECOGNIZE IN THEm

FACF.5 THE FEATURFS CE QJR PRIVILEGED BRETHREN. WE REALIZE THAT THE MARK OF CAIN STAJIDS

UPON aJR FC>fmiEAOO. ACROOS THE CENTURIES cm BROI'HER ABEL HAS IAJW IN THE BIOOD WHICH

WE DREW OR SHED THE TEARS HE CAUSED IN FORGETTING THY LCNE. FORGIVE US FUR THE CURSE WE

li'AI.SEU A'rl'ACHED TO THEIR NAME .AS JEWS. FmGlVE US Fffi CRUCIFYING TREE A SJX:OND TDIE IN

THEIR FLESH. FOR WE KNEW NCYI' WHAT WE om. 11

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