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    Hamid Dabashi is Hagop Kevorkian Professor of Iranian Studies and Comparative Literature at

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    Can non-Europeans think?What happens with thinkers who operate outside the European philosophical 'pedigree'?

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    In a lovely little panegyric for the distinguished European philosopher Slavoj Zizek, published recently on

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    "Why is European philosophy

    'philosophy', but African philosophy

    'ethnophilosophy'?"

    Al Jazeera, we read:

    There are many important and active philosophers today: Judith Butler in the United States,

    Simon Critchley in England, Victoria Camps in Spain, Jean-Luc Nancy in France, Chantal

    Mouffe in Belgium, Gianni Vattimo in Italy, Peter Sloterdijk in Germany and in Slovenia, Slavoj

    Zizek, not to mention others working in Brazil, Australia and China.

    What immediately strikes the reader when seeing this opening paragraph is the unabashedly European

    character and disposition of the thing the author calls "philosophy today" - thus laying a claim on both the

    subject and time that is peculiar and in fact an exclusive property of Europe.

    Even Judith Butler who is cited as an example from the United States is decidedly a product of Europeanphilosophical genealogy, thinking somewhere between Derrida and Foucault, brought to bear on our

    understanding of gender and sexuality.

    To be sure, China and Brazil (and Australia, which is also a European extension) are cited as the location of

    other philosophers worthy of the designation, but none of them evidently merits a specific name to be sitting

    next to these eminent European philosophers.

    The question of course is not the globality of philosophical visions that all these prominent European (and

    by extension certain American) philosophers indeed share and from which people from the deepest corners

    of Africa to the remotest villages of India, China, Latin America, and the Arab and Muslim world ("deep and

    far", that is, from a fictive European centre) can indeed learn and better understand their lives.

    That goes without saying, for without that confidence and self-consciousness these philosophers and the

    philosophical traditions they represent can scarce lay any universal claim on our epistemic credulities, norwould they be able to put pen to paper or finger to keyboard and write a sentence.

    Thinkers outside Europe

    These are indeed not only eminent philosophers, but the philosophy they practice has the globality of

    certain degrees of self-conscious confidence without which no thinking can presume universality.

    The question is rather something else: What about other thinkers who operate outside this European

    philosophical pedigree, whether they practice their thinking in the European languages they have colonially

    inherited or else in their own mother tongues - in Asia, in Africa, in Latin America, thinkers that have actually

    earned the dignity of a name, and perhaps even the pedigree of a "public intellectual" not too dissimilar to

    Hannah Arendt, Jean-Paul Sartre, and Michel Foucault that in this piece on Al Jazeera are offered as

    predecessors of Zizek?

    What about thinkers outside the purview of these European

    philosophers; how are we to name and designate and honour and

    learn from them with the epithet of "public intellectual" in the age of

    globalised media?

    Do the constellation of thinkers from South Asia, exemplified by

    leading figures like Ashis Nandy, Partha Chatterjee, Gayatri Spivak, Ranajit Guha, Sudipta Kaviraj, Dipesh

    Chakrabarty, Homi Bhabha, or Akeel Bilgrami, come together to form a nucleus of thinking that is conscious

    of itself? Would that constellation perhaps merit the word "thinking" in a manner that would qualify one of

    them - as a South Asian - to the term "philosopher" or "public intellectuals"?

    Are they "South Asian thinkers" or "thinkers", the way these European thinkers are? Why is it that if Mozart

    sneezes it is "music" (and I am quite sure the great genius even sneezed melodiously) but the most

    sophisticated Indian music ragas are the subject of "ethnomusicology"?

    Is that "ethnos" not also applicable to the philosophical thinking that Indian philosophers practice - so much

    so that their thinking is more the subject of Western European and North American anthropological fieldwork

    and investigation?

    We can turn around and look at Africa. What about thinkers like Henry Odera Oruka, Ngugi wa Thiong'o,

    Wole Soyinka, Chinua Achebe, Okot p'Bitek, Taban Lo Liyong, Achille Mbembe, Emmanuel Chukwudi Eze,

    Souleymane Bachir Diagne, V.Y. Mudimbe: Would they qualify for the term "philosopher" or "public

    intellectuals" perhaps, or is that also "ethnophilosophy"?

    Why is European philosophy "philosophy", but African philosophy ethnophilosophy, the way Indian music is

    ethnomusic - an ethnographic logic that is based on the very same reasoning that if you were to go to the

    New York Museum of Natural History (popularised in Shawn Levy's Night at the Museum [2006]), you only

    see animals and non-white peoples and their cultures featured inside glass cages, but no cage is in sight for

    white people and their cultures - they just get to stroll through the isles and enjoy the power and ability of

    looking at taxidermic Yaks, cave dwellers, elephants, Eskimos, buffalo, Native Americans, etc, all in a single

    winding row.

    The same ethnographic gaze is evident in the encounter with the intellectual disposition of the Arab or

    Muslim world: Azmi Bishara, Sadeq Jalal Al-Azm, Fawwaz Traboulsi, Abdallah Laroui, Michel Kilo, Abdolkarim

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    "The world at large, and the Arab

    and Muslim world in particular, is

    going through world historic

    changes - these changes have

    produced thinkers, poets, artists,and public intellectuals at the

    centre of their moral and politcial

    imagination."

    In Japan, Kojin Karatani, in Cuba, Roberto Fernandez Retamar, or even in the United States people like

    Cornel West, whose thinking is not entirely in the European continental tradition - what about them? Where

    do they fit in? Can they think - is what they do also thinking, philosophical, pertinent, perhaps, or is that also

    suitable for ethnographic examinations?

    The question of Eurocentricism is now entirely blase. Of course Europeans are Eurocentric and see the

    world from their vantage point, and why should they not? They are the inheritors of multiple (now defunct)

    empires and they still carry within them the phantom hubris of those empires and they think their particular

    philosophy is "philosophy" and their particular thinking is "thinking", and everything else is - as the great

    European philosopher Immanuel Levinas was wont of saying - "dancing".

    The question is rather the manner in which non-European thinking can reach self-consciousness and

    evident universality, not at the cost of whatever European philosophers may think of themselves for the

    world at large, but for the purpose of offering alternative (complementary or contradictory) visions of reality

    more rooted in the lived experiences of people in Africa, in Asia, in Latin America - counties and climes once

    under the spell of the thing that calls itself "the West" but happily no more.

    The trajectory of contemporary thinking around the globe is not spontaneously conditioned in our own

    immediate time and disparate locations, but has a much deeper and wider spectrum that goes back to

    earlier generations of thinkers ranging from Jos Marti to Jamal al-Din al-Afghani, to Aime Cesaire, W.E.B.

    DuBois, Liang Qichao, Frantz Fanon, Rabindranath Tagore, Mahatma Gandhi, etc.

    So the question remains why not the dignity of "philosophy" and whence the anthropological curiosity of

    "ethnophilosophy"?

    Let's seek the answer from Europe itself - but from the subaltern of Europe.

    'The Intellectuals as a Cosmopolitan Stratum'

    In his Prison Notebooks, Antonio Gramsci has a short discussion about Kant's famous phrase in

    Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785) that is quite critical in our understanding of what it takes

    for a philosopher to become universally self-conscious, to think of himself as the measure and yardstick of

    globality. Gramsci's stipulation is critical here - and here is how he begins:

    Kant's maxim "act in such a way that your conduct can become a norm for all men in similar

    conditions" is less simple and obvious than it appears at first sight. What is meant by 'similar

    conditions'?

    To be sure, and as Quintin Hoare and Geoffrey Nowell Smith (the editors and translators of the English

    translation of Gramsci's Prison Notebooks) note, Gramsci here in fact misquotes Kant, and that "similar

    conditions" does not appear in the original text, where the German philosopher says: "I am never to act

    otherwise than so that I could also will that my maxim should become a universal law." This principle, called

    "the categorical imperative", is in fact the very foundation of Kantian ethics.

    So where Kant says "universal law", Gramsci says, "a norm for all men", and then he adds an additional

    "similar conditions", which is not in the German or iginal.

    That misquoting is quite critical here. Gramsci's conclusion is that

    the reason Kant can say what he says and offer h is own behaviour

    as measure of universal ethics is that "Kant's maxim presupposes a

    single culture, a single religion, a 'world-wide' conformism... Kant's

    maxim is connected with his time, with the cosmopolitan

    enlightenment and the critical conception of the author. In brief, it islinked to the philosophy of the intellectuals as a cosmopolitan

    stratum".

    What in effect Gramsci discovers, as a southern Italian suffering in

    the dungeons of European fascism, is what in Brooklyn we call

    chutzpah, to think yourself the centre of universe, a self-assuredness that gives the philosopher that certain

    panache and authority to think in absolutists and grand narrative terms.

    Therefore the agent is the bearer of the "similar conditions" and indeed their creator. That is,

    he "must" act according to a "model" which he would like to see diffused among all mankind,

    according to a type of civilisation for whose coming he is working-or for whose preservation he

    is "resisting" the forces that threaten its disintegration.

    It is precisely that self-confidence, that self-consciousness, that audacity to think yourself the agent ofhistory that enables a thinker to think his particular thinking is "Thinking" in universal terms, and his

    philosophy "Philosophy" and his city square "The Public Space", and thus he a globally recognised Public

    Intellectual.

    There is thus a direct and unmitigated structural link between an empire, or an imperial frame of reference,

    and the presumed universality of a thinker thinking in the bosoms of that empire.

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    As all other people, Europeans are per fectly entitled to their own self-centrism.

    The imperial hubris that once enabled that Eurocentricism and still produces

    the infomercials of the sort we read in Al Jazeera for Zizek are the phantom

    memories of the time that "the West" had assured confidence and a sense of

    its own universalism and globality, or as Gramsci put it, "to a type of civilisation

    for whose coming he is working".

    But that globality is no more - people from every clime and continent are up and about claiming their own

    cosmopolitan worldliness and with it their innate ability to think beyond the confinements of that

    Eurocentricism, which to be sure is still entitled to its phantom pleasures of thinking itself the centre of the

    universe. The Gramscian superimposed "similar conditions" are now emerging in multiple cites of the

    liberated humanity.

    The world at large, and the Arab and Muslim world in particular, is going through world historic changes -

    these changes have produced thinkers, poets, artists, and public intellectuals at the centre of their moral

    and politcial imagination - all thinking and acting in terms at once domestic to their immediate geography

    and yet global in its consequences.

    Compared to those liberating tsunamis now turning the world upside down, cliche-ridden assumption about

    Europe and its increasingly provincialised philosophical pedigree is a tempest in the cup. Reduced to its

    own fair share of the humanity at large, and like all other continents and climes, Europe has much to teach

    the world, but now on a far more leveled and democratic playing field, where its philosophy is European

    philosophy not "Philosophy", its music European music not "Music", and no infomercial would be necessary

    to sell its public intellectuals as "Public Intellectuals".

    Hamid Dabashi is the Hagop Kevorkian Professor of Iranian Studies and Comparative Literature at

    Columbia University in New York. Among his most recent books is The World of Persian Literary

    Humanism (2012).

    The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera's

    editorial policy.

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    Junkets

    It's very interesting. Reading a book on Indian Philosophy recently, I was struck how 'Indian'

    thought had been through very similar phases to 'Western' thought, and encountered very

    similar epistemological problems en route. Some Buddhist thinkers, for instance, took the line of

    Hume'sskepticism against Hindu monistic or dualistic ideas and I got a distinct sense of deja vu

    while reading them. It's important to get outside your own traditional world-view and see things

    from the point of view of 'the other', because the differences are more on the surface than in the

    depths. I think we are all asking the same basic questions, the parameters of which are

    determined by the overall context of our lives in the "incubator, house and hearse" which is our

    universe, and we come up with different answers depending on our cultural background.

    Reading, for example, Vasamazulu Mutwa's "Indaba My Children", based on traditional Bantu

    myths and legends, it's obvious that there is tremendous philosophising going on in the African

    tradition, but it's not presented in a European way. The basic questions posed are the same, the

    difference lies in the method of exposition.

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    c indy wilmore

    i agree. i think the title of this paper should be "can europeans think."

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    burger1376

    Hi Cindy,

    Actually, your post is a bit arrogant. I think the point of the article was to get

    people to not be so self centered. However, it isn't only Europeans who are

    Euro-centric. Many Chinese are Sino-centric, many Arabs are Arab-centric ,

    many Indians are Indian-centric and so on. An example of Arab-centric people or

    Muslim-centric people can be found all over this comment section. Many people

    here think Muslims do no wrong, muslim culture is sepreme, and everyone

    should follow or at least appologize to muslims while ignore muslim wrong

    doings in the world. Your comment kind of shows that you didn't really

    understand the point of the article.

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    WWMD

    I think the succinct meat of the matter is that humans are programmed tobe tribal/ethnocentric. It's a survival mechanism that should be accepted

    by Marxist philosophers rather than denounced as bourgeois.

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    ibne quresh

    Have ou an stats to rove that a Muslim think "Muslims do no wron "?

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    Being Muslims we despise our masses over their oddities. Islam teaches

    the Muslims to be answerable to God, instead of patting or defending

    each other of their maldeeds. Please, never generalize any community.

    For your argument that a Muslim think " Muslim culture is supereme" and

    "everyone should follow the Muslims", i think you have overlooked such

    tendency of all the other corners.

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    Mark Fergerson

    As WWMD says below, "the succinct meat of the matter is that humans

    are programmed to be tribal/ethnocentric", but there's gristle in that meat,

    also found in the article, that "As all other people, Europeans are perfectly

    entitled to their own self-centrism".

    I argue that they are NOT so entitled- no group is. That self-centrism is

    the root of all evil; it allows us to cast anyone not a member of "our" group

    as "the other", not entitled to consideration as a human being, a candidate

    for exploitation, slavery or extermination.The West's philosophical

    development has been away from such centrisms, from the self-

    conscious arrogances of theocracies toward democracies, from

    patriarchy toward equality, from racism toward recognition of the

    essential humanity of all peoples, and the same trend is blatantly evident

    elsewhere.

    Yes, the point is to get people to recognize and hopefully reject their self-

    centrism, by pointing it out to a particular audience segment, those that

    claim the European philosophical heritage. As other commenters have

    pointed out, there really isn't such a thing since all its high points can be

    found in "ethnophilosophies" from India, China, and so on.

    I just hope that others will recognize the same fault in themselves and

    take steps to do the same.

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    Be n

    Let him say what he wants to say but the highest level of philophers are

    people who claim they are God ( or the Supreme One). All of us knows

    that majority of Europeans are Christians and they worship Jesus asGod. Jesus was a Jew, he was not european. Most of Western Laws are

    based on the Morality of the Bible. The Bible were written by Jews not

    Europeans. Now Buddhist worship Sidharta Gautama Buddha/

    Sakyamuni Buddha as the Highest Supreme Being, Buddha was etnically

    an Indian, he was not European. Nearly a Billion Hindus worship Krisna

    which they consider as the Incarnation of the Most Supreme God, Krisna

    is Indian. Looks like God only incarnates into Indians and Jews. Therefore

    only Indians and Jews have the conciousness and genetic capability of

    understanding the infinite God, not Europeans. Thats my logic.

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    Selmo Gliksman

    good comment! and what do you think if i said that everything you saidabout the arab-centric or muslim-centric could be thought as well for the

    jews?I mean european jews (ashkenazi)... they also think their way of

    thinking is superior to other people including north african and oriental

    jews

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    Richard Nogin

    Well Matt, now that you have a sense of superiority over Cindy, do you

    wish to bind and urinate on her too?

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    SweetWill iam

    Thank you for summarizing the point of the article. I missed it.2

    andrew galea

    Very clear and concise. You have a very good point. Well done!

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    Chenyang Li

    While you certainly have a point generally speaking this does not apply to

    me. I am Chinese but my views are not Sino-centric. I simply wish people

    to consider Chinese philosophy and culture on an equal footing with the

    European ones. I'm looking for equality, not Chinese superiority. Yet

    Western academia in the general sense (with some exceptions) doesn't

    seem to really recognise this.

    It's true that everyone has some ethnocentric tendencies, we are only

    human after all, not perfect beings. But objectively there is certainly an

    inequality here. For instance in Chinese universities European philosophyfeatures much more significantly than Chinese philosophy in European

    universities. What you describe is how the literate civilisations of Eurasia

    were like before the age of European colonialism, imperialism and

    expansion. Now European philosophy and culture clearly dominates the

    entire globe.

    Truth Hurts

    a lovely post for sufferers of acute Europe envy.

    57 3

    ChuckRamone

    Reducing all criticism to envy or jealousy: the reasoning of a child.73

    Lwantale

    Give me a break! That is the delusion most of you people live under and

    use whenever you come under criticism. Acute Europe envy, my foot!!

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    cindy wilmore

    whatever.

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    Hind Abyad

    Truth Hurts!13

    morrisminor

    Sure, those Arabs are great thinkers, for the 12th century

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    Lewis

    That's not helpful in the slightest and actual insulting.

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    Bodge Fodge

    Pshhhawwwggghhh

    Jamal Locke

    "I think we are all asking the same basic questions"

    There's really only one important question, something like "how am I and the people I

    care about going to continue to live securely?" Pretty much all of what humans do, even

    things that don't seem related like art & entertainment, are connected to that question.

    Stupid things like war & aggression are an example of misunderstanding that question.

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    moreman

    Surely the question should be "How can we all best live together?".

    17

    Jamal Locke

    We can best live together by recognizing each other's independence. All

    human engineered calamities have one thing in common and it's when

    one group of people starts to obsess about things that other people do

    that have no effect on them.

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    Ben

    Let him say what he wants to say but the highest level of philophers are people who

    claim they are God ( or the Supreme One). All of us knows that majority of Europeans

    are Christians and they worship Jesus as God. Jesus was a Jew, he was not european.

    Most of Western Laws are based on the Morality of the Bible. The Bible were written by

    Jews not Europeans. Now Buddhist worship Sidharta Gautama Buddha/ Sakyamuni

    Buddha as the Highest Supreme Being, Buddha was etnically an Indian, he was not

    European. Nearly a Billion Hindus worship Krisna which they consider as the Incarnation

    of the Most Supreme God, Krisna is Indian. Looks like God only incarnates into Indiansand Jews. Therefore only Indians and Jews have the conciousness and genetic

    capability of understanding the infinite God, not Europeans. Thats my logic.

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    jon77 6

    The majority of Europeans are not really Christians anymore and the ones who

    are, are not very religious. Also, most western laws are not based on the bible.

    As for your logic, it's silly.

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    lee

    Hate to break it to you Ben, but if Jesus was born in Bethelehem as rumoured?

    Jesus was Palestinian.

    Whatever religion one may or may not practice is irrelevant to their nationality.

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    lee

    in reply to Disparshun:

    Religion:

    The service & worship of God or the supernatural.

    Commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance.

    Nationality:

    People generally acquire a nationality by birth within a particular country's

    territory.

    Judaism:

    A monotheistic religion originating in the Hebrew Bible & explored in later

    texts such as the Talmud. Judaism is considered by religious Jews to be

    the expression of the covenantal relationship God established with the

    Children of Israel (that would be Israel, as in a person, not Israel, as in

    a country).

    Judiasm is a religion, it is not a nationality.

    13

    Disparishun

    Of course, Jew was his nationality. Also his religion. How ironic is it that

    it is at the foot of this very article that you reproduce the famous European

    religion::ethnicity split in the usual effort to deny nationhood to the Jews.

    3

    Fp Chan

    The Chinese just bought the right to claim Jesus as Chinese. They gave

    Christians, Jews and Muslims free imitation milk powder in exchange for

    that right.

    2

    Blut Gelt

    Jesus was Palestinian? LOL! Hahahahaa.

    Technically, Jesus was Roman, as Palestine Roman at the time.

    However, Jesus probably identified more with his Jewish identity than his

    "Roman" or "Palestinian" identity. Just stating the obvious.

    2

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    Sorry, but Jesus was a Jew and was totally not a Palestinian as we know

    them today

    3 1

    Junkets

    Since I am of the school which says we should have stayed pagan, what am I to

    say to your 'logic'? Christianity was a religion which was largely imported into

    Europe at the expense of the indigenous culture of Europe. The form it eventually

    came to take emerged out of the collapsed Roman Empire. That is the form of

    the Roman Church. As Adam Ardrey says, "Rome had ruled for centuries. When

    Rome fell, many forms of Christianity vied for power, but only one inherited the

    old framework and structures of the Empire and with a single-minded

    ruthlessness submerged all other versions of Christianity to win the day.

    Arianism, Pelagianism, like the old way,... retreated into the shadows of history.

    The Dark Ages were about to begin." Christianity has been a blight on the

    European landscape ever since.

    5

    Christopher

    According to your "logic" Ben, you could also conclude that only Indians and

    Jews are arrogant and delusional enough to believe that God incarnates itself via

    their genetic material and writes about it.

    3

    Scott Craig

    True. Numerous schools of philosophy which challenged each other's theories of ethics

    and epistemology, developed in India. Similarly, the development of systematic

    philosophy with multiple rival schools of thought developed in China. The European

    philosophers were influenced principally by the richest tradition of philosophy in the

    ancient world which was developed in Greece. But let's be honest, the Europeans have

    equalled or surpassed all other traditions of philosophy in scope, breadth of analysis and

    depth of scrutiny.

    2 1

    Tim

    I agree. As of now 114 other people also agree. But (unless I have missed a post) none

    seem to pointed out that you are disagreeing with the author. The author was saying

    that European thought is Eurocentric. For example, the author suggests that Kant's

    categorical imperative is too universal. In effect, Kant presumes that we are all from a

    single culture. The author was suggesting that we turn to other traditions in order to

    avoid such universalizing assumptions. If you are correct, then other traditions are

    equally "universalistic ". That's fine, but this means that the author's main point misfires

    badly. I agree with your comment, but disagree strongly with the article since I am a fan

    of a priori philosophers like Spinoza.

    1

    Junkets

    Well, yes, I certainly had misgivings about what the author says. Things are not

    so easily separated as he seems to suggest. Whether that's due to traditions

    influencing each other, or because, when one starts to think deeply about life, the

    same questions keep popping up, I don't know. I do know, for example, that

    Spinoza was influenced by Ibn Arabi, but he had his own approach which was

    culturally specific. His use of 'geometrical' methods of argument, for example. So

    perhaps it's a bit of both.

    1

    afroblazingguns

    I'm inclined to ask if non-European women can think considering we are barely mentioned (save

    for Spivak) in this piece.

    87

    Jana Veronika

    well. may this is field misunderstood by westerners...

    19

    Ben

    Let him say what he wants to say but the highest level of philophers are people who

    claim they are God ( or the Supreme One). All of us knows that majority of Europeans

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    . , .

    Most of Western Laws are based on the Morality of the Bible. The Bible were written by

    Jews not Europeans. Now Buddhist worship Sidharta Gautama Buddha/ Sakyamuni

    Buddha as the Highest Supreme Being, Buddha was etnically an Indian, he was not

    European. Nearly a Billion Hindus worship Krisna which they consider as the Incarnation

    of the Most Supreme God, Krisna is Indian. Looks like God only incarnates into Indians

    and Jews. Therefore only Indians and Jews have the conciousness and genetic

    capability of understanding the infinite God, not Europeans. Thats my logic.

    1

    NISHTHAR IDROOS

    The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.

    Plato

    48

    efbya

    In today's context, The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be

    governed by Sharia.

    44

    lingum

    Or might it be the US criminal justice system?

    46

    lee

    in reply to efbya:

    I'm Western born, have lived in the US & the ME.

    There's no more wrong with Sharia Law than there is US law when those

    laws are distorted & manipulated by those in power who choose to do so.

    It depends on which country one lives in, contrary to your somewhat

    fantastical conviction that all Muslim countries are somehow one & the

    the same.

    As to a 'US criminal justice system', today? It's a parody.

    I'll take the Sharia Law where I live for the moment, thanks. It's working

    just fine for me.

    39

    efbya

    What do you prefer, US criminal justice system or Sharia? You should

    ask this question to the crowd of people in your country who're thronging

    the US embassy every day for a visa.

    36

    efbya

    >>I'm Western born, have lived in the US & the ME.

    ------

    @lee

    You're Western born because your parents fled the oppressive Chinese

    system in favor of the Western system. :))

    15

    Debraj Guhabiswas

    Its still much better than sharia. No comparison at all.

    9

    lingum

    Sort of like the caste system in which some human beings are not

    considered full human beings. Suggest you brush up on the laws of

    Manu.

    2

    Al Khal il

    Any learned person who actually looked up the information about Sharia would

    gladly prefer Sharia to any other available system of law we have known so far.

    Go get yourself some real knowledge and then rant. Cheers to you Mr.

    EnterFromBackYouAnimal...

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    Matt Fitt

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    It seemed rather efficient, when the sword was adequately sharpened. It

    also appeared rather disgusting and barbaric. The sort of system that

    might work well in a brutal totalitarian dystopia... but not really such a

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    Al Khal il

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