2017 RCCAC  PIT CREW  President      Mary Cailey               928‐474‐3560            marycailey@yahoo.com  V.P.                Paul Jones                 928‐474‐4420            paul.jones489@yahoo.com  Secretary      Steve Fowler             928‐478‐6676 & Web Master  fowlerauto@suddenlink.net Treasurer     Tina Dychkowski       920‐216‐0830             nagak@yahoo.com Ac vi es       Sandi Gunderson     928‐476‐2168            a57chevyman@q.com      Director        Carl Cur s                  928‐468‐8018            ccsewnski@npgcable.com Director        Darrel Wallace         480‐390‐6270            dsdwallace@gmail.com  Director        Butch Tucker             480‐694‐1229            butchr51@hotmail.com   Car Show Director for 2018             W.O.W Coordinator  Sue Hedman    928‐476‐3060           thundermtn@live.com  Movie Coordinator  Martha White  928‐300‐3870            msanders.white@gmail.com Newsle er    Margie Fowler          928‐478‐6676            margiefowler@suddenlink.net 

Well, Everyone, we have only 2 mee ngs 

(October and November) le  for the year, as we don’t have a monthly mee ng in December, we just meet and celebrate the Holidays with a party! 

We’re in the midst of nomina ons for the 2018 Board.  In September we handed out nomina on forms and I was pleasantly pleased with the number of members who were nominated.  I have found the best way to get you, the members, to respond to something is to ask you to complete an anonymous form, without asking your name. Even though most of the people who were nominated declined the posi on, we do have one member for each posi on  except for the President posi on.  I will not be con nuing in this posi on next year so we really need someone to step in and lead the Club.  As per the Club By‐laws, we will be having another round of nomina ons at the October monthly mee ng and we will vote to elect the new Board in November. 

Don’t forget to pay for your Christmas Party reserva ons ($12.00 / member, $25 / non‐member).  You can do this at the October mee ng.  The party RSVP deadline is  November 15th. If you don’t all ready have a menu choice RSVP Party request, see page 8 of this newsle er. 

Let’s all enjoy  the cooler  Fall weather!   

THE RIM COUNTRY CLASSIC AUTO

CLUB IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION

FOR THE PURPOSE OF:

Providing social, educational and recreational activities for its membership.

Participating in and supporting civic activities for the betterment of the community.

Encouraging and promoting the preservation and restoration of classic motor vehicles.

Providing organized activities involving the driving and showing of member’s cars.

RCCAC meets at 

6:30p.m. on the first Wednesday of 

the month at  Tiny’s Restaurant, 600 E. Hwy. 260  

in Payson  

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Traveling with the

Payson ArizonaPayson Arizona

  

  Trivia Ques on 

      Why Women           Like Cars?             Answer on page #6 

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FROM THE GLOVEBOX

UP COMING ACTIVITIES

Trunk or treat at Native October 28th. Before Dark. $15. donation to Benefits Payson Community kids.

Trophies & 50/50. Bring lots of candy & decorate your

trunk and yourselves too if you wish!

Fall BBQ

Sunday October 8th At the Ramada in Pine AZ 1:30 pm - Lunch served at 2:00

Payson Members- Meeting at the MVD at 1: pm

traveling together.

Bring a Dessert

OCTOBER

AT A GLANCE 4th Membership meeting 6:30pm Guest Speaker- Police Chief 6th Mikes Fish & Chips 4:30 Remember to men on that you are a car club member to get 10% off your meal.  6-7th Winslow Car Show 7th Home Depot Show & Shine 8th Fall Bar B-Q in Pine 1:30pm 12th WOW 11:30 Old County Inn Pine 18th Fall Mini Car Show at HS 28th Movie of the Month 28th Trunk or Treat at Native.

Mark Your Calendar

Christmas Dinner Party Wednesday December 6th

RSVP Requested Required dinner choices

on page #8 Deadline Nov 15th.

Guest Speaker October 4th

meeting.

Chief of Police Donald Engler 

Payson High School FALL

Mini Show and Shine at the Auto Shop

Wednesday October 18th 8:15 to 10:30 A.M.

Details will be shared at the October 4th membership meeting

with an e-mail to follow. This was done in the spring with great success.

Saturday 7th of October 9 to 3 Fire Safety Event Show & Shine

at the Home Depot Hamburgers & Hot dogs for all who come.

There will be exhibits, police k-9, fire, Search & Rescue.

Please e-mail or call Charley Halm if you plan to go. Need car count.

flowersncars@earthlink.net 474-8419

The movie is  usually voted on at the  monthly club membership mee ng.  

But because of all the ac vi es going on this month it was decided that we will go see the movie below on the 28th 10:am.

Make sure your e‐mail is up to date!  

$7.00 gets admission,  a small drink and a small popcorn.     

 See you at the Movies! 

1        Kelly  Gunderson 

5       Virgil  Conrad  

6       Butch Tucker  

9       Larry  Coleman  

10      Al  Zaremba 

19      Frank  Schaefer  

20      Dennis Griggs  

22      Bruce  Boushon  

28      Ken Gunderson 

29    Terri  P. Not  Celebrating   

NOVEMBER 

 

3rd Mikes Fish & Chips 4:30PM Remember to men on that you are a car club member to get 10% off your meal.  4th Cottonwood Car Show- Classic Cars for Kids Club Adventure 10th Friday our annual Veterans to Lunch. We will need all cars possible. Lunch will be at the Casino. This is one of our special events and if you have not been involved it’s a very humbling and fulfilling experience. 11th OR 18th Movie of the Month. Watch for your e-mail reminder.

News from the Backseat

Birthdays

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September had quite a few ac vi es going for the month. A few of the highlights from this month were Mike’s Fish and Chips on the first Friday, great turn out. Another ac vity was with the Payson Community Kids, they were one of the          recipients for the charity money. It was a deligh ul  

a ernoon ac vity showing the children our cars and answering their ques ons about how old the car was, how fast it went and how long have we had the car. A few cars were  available for them to sit in them. Which was fun to see their eyes light up with the  experience. Dinner followed in Star Valley at the Pour House, fun ac vity.  O C T O B E R 2 0 1 7 R C C A C

We have taken a break  during the summer months, We are all ready to start up 

again!  Looking forward to seeing all you ladies. Mee ng Thursday Oct 12th at Old County Inn in Pine.  Star ng at 11:30.  Please try and let me know if you will be a ending and are bring‐ing a guest. I need to call ahead to reserve sea ng. See you soon!!     Sue Hedman 

American Made—staring Tom Cruise Barry Seal, a TWA pilot, is recruited by the CIA to provide reconnaissance on the  burgeoning communist threat in Central America and soon finds himself in charge of  one of the biggest covert CIA opera ons in the history of the United States. The  opera on spawns the birth of the Medellin cartel and almost brings down the Reagan White House.          Family, Friends and Neighbors welcome! 

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Mary Cailey

My love of cars started when I was in high school. The bus I rode to school went by a Ford dealership every day (in Gary, Indiana) and front and center of the lot was an old truck, probably from the 30s, with the wooden side panels advertising the dealership. I thought that was such a

cool truck.

Right after college I got married, and as it happens to most people, the thoughts of a cool car got put on the back burner with raising kids and college. I did, however, have 2 Mustang convertibles during these years.

Our kids flew the coop in their early 20s with jobs out of state and unfortunately within 2 years my husband passed away from cancer so I was by myself for the first time in my life. My love of cars slowly, well, not so slowly, bubbled up again and although I had a 1996 Mustang convertible at the time, I soon bought my first (used) 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee, followed within a year with an L82 1978 Corvette (silver

anniversary edition). I was traveling to California for work in 2003 and decided to take motorcycle lessons one weekend while I was in California. When I got home I went to the nearest Harley Davidson dealership and bought a used 2001 Heritage Softail Classic. What a beauty, black with lots of chrome and a 1450 cc engine. I’ve always loved the feel of the wind in my hair (although it was under a helmet, always). Several years later I met my second husband, John, who was also into cars. Between us we had 6 cars and my Harley. As time went on we sold some cars and my bike and bought others. My husband drag raced a 1979 Chrysler 300 and I was his pit crew, in charge of making sure the tires were properly

inflated, all the bolts on the engine were tight after each race, and made sure there was enough gas in the tank for each race. I also drove the towed drag car to the races. All new and fun experiences for me. In 2007 we also bought another 1979 Chrysler 300 for me so we have “his” and “hers” identical cars. There were only 3,811 of these cars made, all in Spinnaker White paint. Mine has a moon roof of which only 256 were made.

In 2013 I bought a 1927 Ford Roadster, painted in “Screaming Yellow” and orange paint. Fun to drive and I got a lot of thumbs up with this car. I kept this car for 3 years. Hopefully when you read this I will already have my next classic car. I’ve been looking for a 1967, 68, or 69 Jeepster Commando convertible. If not then I am still looking!

The old classics are fun to have.

MOUNTING THE POWER

TRAIN One of the common changes made when we “build” a hot rod is to change the en-

gine for a more powerful one. Sometimes this entails simply using a larger version of what’s already there, but often it means a true “engine swap”, where an engine that was never fitted to that chassis is fitted in. I’ve had a lot of practice- in reviewing the list of 100+ vehicles I’ve owned, 25 have involved an upgrade and 14 were full-on swaps. Mounting the engine and tranny needs to be done very early in the build. You can’t do plumbing, exhaust or steering hookup until the power train is positioned. Deciding what engine and trans to use is based on available space, intended use, budget and personal brand preference – not necessarily in that order.

Next step is to mock up the installation. As most of us know, carbureted engines are typically installed so that they slope to the rear at about a 3 degree angle to keep the driveshaft low. This is typical of factory practice. Fuel injected engines don’t really care what angle they’re at. The engine is usually centered, but it is perfectly acceptable to offset the engine, usually to the passenger side, for steering clearance and to offset driver weight. Try to keep it parallel to the chassis. More critical than that is the fore-and-aft position of the engine. Most importantly here is to allow room for an adequate cooling system- radiator and fan assembly that can do a better than adequate job of keeping the engine cool. There’s little more disappointing than building a car that can’t be driven in warm weather.

Another common issue is oil pan clearance to the suspension and front crossmember. Many engines have optional oil pans that can be used to help. I remember swapping an aluminum BOP V-8 into a Vega. I had done several before with engines from a Buick, which has a center sump. I needed the sump to the rear, and spent a couple of days modifying the pan. When I picked up my “core” engine, it came from a Pontiac, and had a rear sump that fit with no mods. Live and learn. Do your research first, then resort to cutting as needed. My current project required modifying both the pan and the crossmember.

Clearance at the firewall and floor/tunnel can be created by cutting away the offending sheet metal and fabricating new that gives more room for the engine or trans, but remember that the cost will include a reduction in room in the interior. Usually, a little room can be sacrificed, but some go too far and make the vehicle very uncomfortable. At least a half inch of clearance should be established to let air pass around the engine and trans for

cooling. They can both get very hot on a nice summer day.

One you have the engine positioned where it will clear properly, the next step is to build a mounting system. It’s awkward to try to do this with the engine hanging on a cherry picker. For some popular engines, lightweight plastic mockups are available. You can also use a gutted-out engine and trans without internals if you have one floating around to make it easier. You are better off to support it from underneath with whatever is handy and safe. Wood blocks, cinder blocks, whatever works so that it is positioned correctly and securely. Often, the best mounts to use are the ones that the factory used, but you can also use “universal” mounts, which are usually similar to the ones used on flathead Fords. The plus for them is that they carry the loads vertically, where most factory ones worked on a diagonal, which makes fitting trickier. When fabricating the brackets, you can mock them up using heavy card stock or “tag board” to develop a pattern, then cut them out of sheet steel and bend and/or

weld them into shape. For popular swaps, commercially available mounts are often available. The mounts can be either welded or bolted to the frame, but consider whether they will impose a twisting load on the frame, and “box” or reinforce the frame as needed. The industry standard for many years with a typical front engine/rear drive setup is side mounts on the engine and a rear center mount on the tranny. Trans crossmembers are easily fabricated using rectangular tubing, or purchase a universal tubular unit that results in the right slope and location for the rear mount and leaves room for exhaust pipes.

Once the engine and trans are positioned and secured, the fun really begins- getting everything else hooked up. It’s a lot like building a house; once the foundation is in and the house framed and sheathed, it looks almost done. Truth is you’re not yet halfway there, but it sure looks impressive! Rule of thumb for a car build – estimate time and money required, then multiply by three, and you’ll be about right. Happy Motoring. SF

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P A G E 6

Why Women Like Cars

by Alanis King Weekend Editor, Jalopnik When a woman writes about cars on the internet, there are plenty of people who respect her words.

But there are also Reddit users who think she’s incapable of forming her own opinions, commenters who think she isn’t qualified to review a car and critics who always want to remind her of what the boys know.

But the real, shocking truth about those women is that they actually do know what they’re talking about some-times, because, sit down for this one: some women like cars. Some women like cars just to like cars, for the same reason that any other person likes cars.

Some women like cars with three pedals, others like cars that handle all of that for them. Some like them for the speed, and others like to drift them. Some race them and some merely watch them race. And you know why? For their own damn reasons.

Some women like cars, just like some men don’t. And, shockingly enough, some women actually know just as much about cars (or, gasp, even more!) than some men do.

So, there you have it: some women like cars simply because they like them. And they have the capacity to become just as qualified to do anything with or about those cars as anyone else in this world.

Problem solved.

Source for approval to use- #3 From: Patrick George [mailto:patrick@jalopnik.com]  

Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:27 PM To: Alanis King Cc: Stephen Fowler Subject: Re: Your "Why Women Like Cars" Ar cle _Loved It 

Of course, thanks very much!  

#2 On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Alanis King <alanis.king@jalopnik.com> wrote: 

Hey, Stephen! 

That's awesome, and thank you so much for sharing. Let me loop my editor in on the newsle er part, since I'm not the one to make the final call on a request like that. Is it an online newsle er? Would it be a link or a reprint? ‐Alanis  

#1 On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Fowler <fowlerauto@suddenlink.net> wrote: 

I loved your blurb about “Why Women Like Cars”. Read it to my wife, who is the newsle er editor for our local classic car club, and she would love to use it in her newsle er, but we of course need your permission first. As a re red college auto tech instructor, I always do a tech ar cle for her, and she is my partner in my street rodding hobby, where she picks the color schemes and does all the interiors, as well as help as needed elsewhere. In my years of teaching I only had a few gals come through the program, but they were consistently sharper and be er focused than the guys in class. It was fun to have them there.                                      Steve Fowler 

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PROJECT– 1967 Chevy shortbed C/10, 383 stroker V8 4 bolt main, turbo 400 tranny, posi rear, on 72 frame, has disc brakes in front, B&M

slap shifter, Very clean, very straight. Bed is from a 95’ Chevy stepside. Asking $5500. Ran when parked and now is minus carb and battery. To see it, it is at the neighbors next to the Fowlers. This is very much like the silver Chevy truck Steve Fowler has. Contact Jeremiah 928-978-6493

Victor acetylene torch set. welding, cutting and rosebud heating tips. tanks, gauges, hose and cart. $250. OBO. Gary Allen (928) 970-1853

1969 Buick Wildcat Convertible. A real head turner! New top; 430 cid engine. 67,600 miles on it $15000 OBO.

Contact Dwight Bare 480 620-4518 mailto:tbare37@gmail.com Bring cash and take it for a ride!

Set of 19" rims and high performance tires. Rear rims are 19x9.5 with 7 inch backspacing, fronts are 19x8 with 6 inch backspacing. Rims are chrome plated, and are Chevy pattern. Tires are Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Rears are 275/35ZR19, date code 2113, and are at 4/32 (still

have a little life). Fronts are 235/35ZR19, date code 5913, and have 7/32 tread (less than half worn). Asking $275.00 contact Steve Fowler 928-478-6676

Club member Steve Chlupsa, is looking for an enclosed car hauler. Preferably a 20 footer but would look at 16’ to 24’ ones as well. Please contact him if you have or know of one that is for sale. 480-297-2004

NOTE: If you have sold or found what you are looking for please send me a e-mail to let me know, As new items come in, items at the bottom of the list will be removed to make room. If you want your item to continue, please let me know so I can relist it for you. margiefowler@suddenlink.net not the clubs e-mail!

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Looking to sell parts OR Looking for parts!

Meeting Minutes can be

reviewed on the clubs website:

http://clubs.hemmings.com/rccac/

Past newsletters can also be viewed and

printed from the website.

P A G E 8 Upcoming Car Shows

October 6-7 Winslow 23rd Annual Just Cruis’n Car Show Club Adventure 14- Camp Verde 18th Annual Fort Verde Days Car Show November 4- Cottonwood Classic Cars for Kids Club Adventure 11- Cottonwood Walking on Main Car Show— HS raising $ for their Hot Rod Club

17-19 Scottsdale Good Guys Southwest Nationals

www.cruisearizona.com www.cruisinarizona.com/carshows.html

If interested in going as a group, contact Sandi Gunderson

to see if something can be arranged for a group caravan.

If you know of any upcoming car shows that need to be listed.

Please let Margie know as soon as possible to add them to the list.

Directory Updates: As we have new members and updates on those who are  missing from the 2017 directory they will be added to the  monthly newsle er.  Please print out this page and cut and paste/glue it into your directory. It is sized to fit. 

Bosque, Jerry 

928‐978‐8727 

 

September 50/50   Winner   

Jerry Bosque As a side note:  

Jerry returned the  money back to the club to use in the future for an upcoming ac vity.  

Thanks Jerry! 

  CHRISTMAS DINNER & PARTY  (Print and fill out for each person a ending– include a check or cash) 

Choose one    (no subs tutes):                              RSVP Deadline is November 15th  

____  Chicken Marsala in mushroom sauce, with mashed potatoes 

____  Atlan c Salmon, poached in white wine, with wild rice 

____  Prime Rib au jus with horseradish and twice baked potatoes 

 

****Dinner also includes garden salad with balsamic vinaigre e, vegetables, and bread*** 

Do you have a nut/food allergy?  ____________________________                              

Name __________________________________Paid  ($12/member, $25/non‐member) ___________ check or cash  

If you can not make the October or November mee ng to turn this in please send it to:         

RCCAC P.O. Box  2853 Payson, Arizona 85547‐2853       RSVP Deadline is November 15th