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Page 1: Carlo Cottarelli Director, Fiscal Affairs Department September 2011.

Carlo CottarelliDirector, Fiscal Affairs Department

September 2011

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Fiscal Monitor, September 2011

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1. The state of the public finances before the 2008 crisis

2. The effect of the crisis on the fiscal accounts

3. The risks arising from the current situation

4. Policy conclusions

Overview

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1. The state of the public finances before the 2008

crisis

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1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

2010

0

20

40

60

80

100

120Canada

General Government Gross Debt in G-7 Economies, 1950-2007

(In percent of GDP)

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

2010

0

20

40

60

80

France

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

2010

0

20

40

60

80 Germany

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

2010

0

20

40

60

80

100

120

140 Italy

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

2010

0

40

80

120

160

200

240 Japan

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

0

40

80

120

160

200

240United Kingdom

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

2010

0

40

80

120United States

0

40

80

120

Average

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1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

020406080

100120140160

Belgium

General Government Gross Debt in Selected Advanced Economies, 1950-2007

(In percent of GDP)

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

0

20

40

60

80 Spain

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

0

20

40

60

80 Portugal

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

0

20

40

60

80

100

120Greece

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

0

20

40

60

80

100Sweden

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

0

20

40

60 Australia

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

0

20

40

60

80

100New Zealand

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

0

20

40

60

80Korea

1950

1955

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

0

20

40

60

80

100

120Netherlands

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1970

1974

1978

1982

1986

1990

1994

1998

2002

2006

0

20

40

60

80

100

120 Brazil

General Government Gross Debt in Emerging Economies, 1970-2007

(In percent of GDP)

1970

1974

1978

1982

1986

1990

1994

1998

2002

2006

020406080

100120140160180 Argentina

1970

1974

1978

1982

1986

1990

1994

1998

2002

2006

020406080

100120140160

Egypt

1970

1974

1978

1982

1986

1990

1994

1998

2002

2006

0

20

40

60

80

100India

1970

1974

1978

1982

1986

1990

1994

1998

2002

2006

0

20

40

60

80

100

120Indonesia

1970

1974

1978

1982

1986

1990

1994

1998

2002

2006

0

20

40

60

80

100Mexico

1970

1974

1978

1982

1986

1990

1994

1998

2002

2006

0

20

40

60

80

100Turkey

0

20

40

60

80

100Pakistan

1970

1974

1978

1982

1986

1990

1994

1998

2002

2006

0

20

40

60

80Thailand

1970

1974

1978

1982

1986

1990

1994

1998

2002

2006

0

20

40

60

80

100Philippines

1990

1992

1994

1996

1998

2000

2002

2004

2006

0

20

40

60

Average

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2. The effect of the crisis on the fiscal accounts

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Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Advanced Economies

-4

-2

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

-10 10 30 50 70 90Change in debt with respect to 2007

2007 2008

CanadaFrance

Germany

Greece

Italy

Japan

Portugal

Spain

United Kingdom

United States

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

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Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Advanced Economies

Canada

France

Greece

Japan

Portugal

Spain

United Kingdom

United States

-4

-2

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

-10 10 30 50 70 90Change in debt with respect to 2007

20092008-4

-2

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

ItalyGermany

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Portugal

Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Advanced Economies

-4

-2

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

-10 10 30 50 70 90Change in debt with respect to 2007

Canada

France

Germany Greece

Italy

Japan

Spain

United Kingdom

United States

2009 2010

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

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Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Advanced Economies

-4

-2

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

-10 10 30 50 70 90Change in debt with respect to 2007

FranceGermany GreeceItaly

Japan

Portugal

Spain

United Kingdom

United States

20112010

Canada

Canada

GermanyGreece

Japan

Portugal

Spain

United Kingdom

United States

12

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

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Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Advanced Economies

-4

-2

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

-10 10 30 50 70 90Change in debt with respect to 2007

Italy

2011 2012

13

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

Japan

Canada

FranceGermany

GreeceItalyPortugal

Spain

United KingdomUnited States

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Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Advanced Economies

-4

-2

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

-10 10 30 50 70 90Change in debt with respect to 2007

Japan

Canada

FranceGermany

GreeceItalyPortugal

Spain

United Kingdom

2012

14

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

United States

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2008

Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Emerging Economies

Brazil

China

India

Mexico

RussiaAverage Advanced

-5

-3

-1

1

3

5

7

9

11

13

-25.0 -15.0 -5.0 5.0 15.0 25.0 35.0

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

Change in debt with respect to 2007

2007

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Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Emerging Economies

Brazil

China

India

Mexico

Russia

AverageAdvanced

-5

-3

-1

1

3

5

7

9

11

13

-25.0 -15.0 -5.0 5.0 15.0 25.0 35.0

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

Change in debt with respect to 2007

2008 2009

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Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Emerging Economies

Brazil

China

India

Mexico

Russia

Average Advanced

-5

-3

-1

1

3

5

7

9

11

13

-25.0 -15.0 -5.0 5.0 15.0 25.0 35.0

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

Change in debt with respect to 2007

2009 2010

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Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Emerging Economies

Brazil

China

India

Mexico

Russia Average Advanced

-5

-3

-1

1

3

5

7

9

11

13

-25.0 -15.0 -5.0 5.0 15.0 25.0 35.0

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

Change in debt with respect to 2007

2010 2011

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Change in General Government Debt and Deficit: Emerging Economies

BrazilChina

India

Mexico

Russia

Average Advanced

-5

-3

-1

1

3

5

7

9

11

13

-25.0 -15.0 -5.0 5.0 15.0 25.0 35.0

Cha

nge

in d

efic

it w

ith r

espe

ct t

o 20

07

Change in debt with respect to 2007

2011 2012

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G-20 Advanced Economies: Increase in General Government Debt, 2008–15

(Total increase: 38.6 percentage points of GDP)

Automatic Revenue

loss, 47.7%

Fiscal stimulus, 16.5%

Financial sector

support, 8.7%

Net lending and other stock-flow

adjust-ments, 9.6%

Interest-growth

dynamics, 17.5%

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Illustrative Scenarios for Primary Balance Adjustment and Debt, 2010-30

-10

-8

-6

-4

-2

0

2

4

6

2007 2009 2011 2013 2015 2017 2019 2021 2023 2025 2027 2029

40

50

60

70

80

90

100

110

2007 2009 2011 2013 2015 2017 2019 2021 2023 2025 2027 2029

General Government Gross Debt-to-GDP Ratio

Overall Balance

Primary Balance

Cyclically Adjusted Primary Balance

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22

Cyclically Adjusted Primary Balance that Needs to Be Maintained in 2020–30 to Achieve Debt Target by 2030

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 80

2

4

6

8

109.8

7.0

5.65.4

4.34.3

3.1

3.4

3.1

2.0 2.01.8

1.01.3

0.8

1.0

0.40.5

Highest primary balance, 10-year rolling average

Re

qu

ired

CA

PB

in 2

02

0–

30

(In percent of GDP)

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2. The risks arising from the current situation

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24

General Government Deficit vs. Debt in Euro Area Countries, 2011

Austria Belgium

Cyprus

EstoniaFinland

France

Greece

Ireland

Italy

Luxembourg

Malta

Netherlands

Portugal

Slovak Republic

Slovenia Spain

Germany

-6.0

-4.0

-2.0

0.0

2.0

4.0

6.0

8.0

10.0

12.0

0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180Gross Debt (percent of GDP)

2011

Def

icit

(per

cent

of

GD

P)

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25

General Government Deficit vs. Debt in Euro Area Countries, 2011

AustriaBelgium

CyprusEstonia

Finland

Greece

Italy

Luxembourg

Malta

Netherlands

Slovak Republic

Slovenia

Spain

Germany

Austria Belgium

Cyprus

EstoniaFinland

France

Greece

Ireland

Italy

Luxembourg

Malta

Netherlands

Portugal

Slovak Republic

Slovenia Spain

Germany

-6.0

-4.0

-2.0

0.0

2.0

4.0

6.0

8.0

10.0

12.0

0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180Gross Debt (percent of GDP)

France

Ireland

20112007

Def

icit

(per

cent

of

GD

P)

Portugal

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26

General Government Deficit vs. Debt in Euro Area Countries, 2011

Austria Belgium

Cyprus

EstoniaFinland

France

Greece

Ireland

Italy

Luxembourg

Malta

Netherlands

Portugal

Slovak Republic

Slovenia Spain

Germany

JapanUnited States

-6.0

-4.0

-2.0

0.0

2.0

4.0

6.0

8.0

10.0

12.0

0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180Gross Debt (percent of GDP)

2011

Def

icit

(per

cent

of

GD

P)

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27

1. Past and future fiscal trends

Why Euro Area Countries Are Different from US and Japan?

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28

General Government Deficit vs. Debt in Euro Area Countries, 2011

Austria Belgium

Cyprus

EstoniaFinland

France

Greece

Ireland

Italy

Luxembourg

Malta

Netherlands

Portugal

Slovak Republic

Slovenia Spain

Germany

JapanUnited States

-6.0

-4.0

-2.0

0.0

2.0

4.0

6.0

8.0

10.0

12.0

0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180Gross Debt (percent of GDP)

2011

Def

icit

(per

cent

of

GD

P)

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2011

General Government Deficit, in percent of GDP

2009

10.1

7.7

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

16

29

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30

Change in the Deficit in the Euro Area, US and Japan

-10

-8

-6

-4

-2

0

2

4

6 Percent of GDP change, 2009-11

30

Fall 2009 FM

Current FM

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Fiscal Outlook: Increase in General Government Debt during 2012-14

Spain

BelgiumFrance

(Change in percent of GDP)

Germany

Italy

October 2009 Sept

2011

October 2009

Sept 2011

October 2009

Sept 2011

October 2009 Sept

2011

October 2009

Sept 2011

United States Japan

October 2009

Sept 2011

October 2009

Sept 2011

-4

0

4

8

12

16

Increase in debt, 2012-14

-4

0

4

8

12

16

Increase in debt, 2012-14-4

0

4

8

12

16

Increase in debt, 2012-14-4

0

4

8

12

16

Increase in debt, 2012-14

-4

0

4

8

12

16

Increase in debt, 2012-14-4

0

4

8

12

16

Increase in debt, 2012-14

-4

0

4

8

12

16

Increase in debt, 2012-14

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32

1. Past and future fiscal trends

2. Long-term pressures on spending for health care and pensions

Why Euro Area Countries Are Different from US and Japan?

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33

-50

0

50

100

150

200

250

300

350

Health care

Pension

NPV of Pension and Health care Spending Change 2010–50

(Change in percent of GDP)

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NPV of Pension and Health care Spending Change 2010–50 vs. Yield Spreads

-5 0 5 10 15 200

20

40

60

80

100

120

140

160

180

200

130.380785148942

156.818978261438

36.470086539303

14.4644616779693

153.093225539998

43.1264378098201

62.7655327516063

130.998733227985

54.9110721376281

31.8935742132118

34.1702449807244

157.118694935229

135.46027864855

62.9085339398284

132.561763458516

106.531818816695

188.369418821701

Yield Spreads

NP

V o

f Pe

nsi

on

an

d H

ea

lth c

are

So

en

din

g C

ha

ng

e,

20

10

-50

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1. Past and future fiscal trends

2. Long-term pressures on spending for health care and pensions

3. Banks

4. Growth

Why Euro Area Countries Are Different from US and Japan?

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-3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4-200

0

200

400

600

800

1000

1200

1400

1600

60.2

185.4

41.3

71.8

1395.8

736.1

302.9

39.7

850.7

180.1

302.1

3.7-122.4

Real Growth

Projected real GDP growth (percent), 2011-12

Bo

nd

yie

lds

spre

ad

s (b

asi

s p

oin

ts),

A

ug

ust

20

11

36

Sovereign Bond Yield Spreads and Projected Real GDP Growth

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0 1 2 3 4 5-200

0

200

400

600

800

1000

1200

1400

1600

60.2

185.4

41.3

71.8

1395.8

736.1

302.9

39.7

850.7

180.1

302.1

3.7

-122.4

Real Growth

Real GDP growth (percent), 1997-2007

Bo

nd

yie

lds

spre

ad

s (b

asi

s p

oin

ts),

A

ug

ust

20

11

37

Sovereign Bond Yield Spreads and Real GDP Growth

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38

High Public Debt is Bad for Growth

Rogoff and Reinhart:

“This Time is Different: Eight

Centuries of Financial Folly”

(2009)

Kumar and Woo:

“Public Debt and Growth”

(2010)

Steven Cecchetti: “The Real

Effects of Debt” (2011)

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39

Advanced Economies: Debt Above 80 percent of GDP

AU

S

AU

T

BE

L

CA

NC

ZE

DE

N

DE

U

ES

P

FIN

FR

A

GB

R

GR

C

ICE

IRE

ISR

ITA

JPN

NE

D

NZ

L

PR

T

SLK

SLV

US

A

0

50

100

150

200

2502007

19%81%

2011

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1. Past and future fiscal trends

2. Long-term pressures on spending for health care and pensions

3. Banks

4. Growth

5. Sources of financing

Why Euro Area Countries Are Different from US and Japan?

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41

32%

3%

65%

34%

18%

34%

14%

16%

84%

Sources of Financing: Holders of Public Debt

36%

1%

63%

85%

9%3%3%

55%

45%

4%

45%

51%46%54%

3%

55%

41%

Japan Central Government BondsUnited States Treasury Securities Ireland Central Government Bonds

Portugal General Government Debt

Spain Central Government SecuritiesGreece Central Government Marketable Debt

Italy General Government Securities

Belgium Gross Government Debt

France Central Government Securities

Private Residents

Central Bank

Private Non-residents

Official Non-residents

Note: For Ireland, France, Italy, Portugal, Greece and Spain: Private non-resident, includes ECB.

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42

United States: Ownership of Treasury Securities

19891990

19911992

19931994

19951996

19971998

19992000

20012002

20032004

20052006

20072008

20092010

20110%

10%

20%

30%

40%

50%

60%

70%

80%

90%

100%

0%

10%

20%

30%

40%

50%

60%

70%

80%

90%

100%

Private Residents

Private Non-residents

Central Bank

Official Non-residents China

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Private Non-residents Holders of Debt vs. Yield Spreads

0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 200

10

20

30

40

50

60

70

80

90

41.5

54.0

64.8

83.6

51.1

63.3

45.1

3.1

14.0

Yield spreads

Sh

are

of p

riva

te n

on

-re

sid

en

t h

old

ing

s o

f pu

blic

de

bt

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44

4. Policy conclusions

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45

1. United States and Japan need a clear plan

2. Europe needs:

1. Adjustment in fiscal fundamentals

Policy Conclusions

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46

General Government Deficit vs. Debt in Euro Area Countries, 2011-13

Austria

BelgiumCyprus

Estonia

Finland

France

Greece

Ireland

ItalyLuxembourg

Malta Netherlands

PortugalSlovak Republic

Slovenia

Spain

Germany

Malta

-1.0

1.0

3.0

5.0

7.0

9.0

0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180 200

Gross Debt (percent of GDP)

Austria Belgium

Cyprus

Estonia

Finland

France

Greece

Ireland

Italy

Luxembourg

Netherlands

Portugal

Slovak Republic

Slovenia Spain

Germany

11.0

20132011

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47

1. United States and Japan need a clear plan

2. Europe needs:

1. Adjustment in fiscal fundamentals

2. Reforms to boost potential growth

Policy Conclusions

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48

Initial debt ratio at 100%

Increase the growth rate for 10 years by 1 p.p.

Spending constant in per capita terms, assuming a 40% tax ratio

Would lower public debt by 29% of GDP

The Role of Growth Lowering Debt Ratios

0

20

40

60

80

100

120

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

De

bt

in P

erc

en

t o

f G

DP

Year

Role of Growth in Debt Reduction

29% Difference

Baseline

With growth increased by 1

percentage points

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49

1. United States and Japan need a clear plan

2. Europe needs:

1. Adjustment in fiscal fundamentals

2. Reforms to boost potential growth

3. Banking

4. Financing for countries that are adjusting

Policy Conclusions

Page 50: Carlo Cottarelli Director, Fiscal Affairs Department September 2011.

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