AEROSPACE QUALITY SYSTEM FEBRUARY 2012 CONFIRMED MINUTES CONFIRMED MINUTES FEBRUARY 22-23, 2012 SHERATON SAN DIEGO HOTEL & MARINA SAN DIEGO, CA These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency. WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 22 to THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 23 1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN 1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check The Aerospace Quality System (AQS) was called to order at 8:00 am, 22- February-12. A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance: Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member) NAME COMPANY NAME * Robert Bodemuller Ball Aerospace & Technologies * Robin Borrelli The Boeing Company Vice Chairperson Katie Bradley Lockheed Martin Corporation * Mark Covert Honeywell Aerospace * David Day GE Aviation Chairperson Caroline DesLandes Bombardier Inc. * Harold Finch Spirit AeroSystems Secretary Deneige Fitzpatric k Bombardier Inc. Aaron Havlovic Cessna Aircraft Company * Keith Kastner Cessna Aifcraft Company * Angelina Mendoza Goodrich Corporation * Earl Pruett Lockheed Martin Corporation Per Rehndell Volvo Aero Corp. Brad Richwine Raytheon Co * David Vaughn Spirit AeroSystems 1
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AEROSPACE QUALITY SYSTEMFEBRUARY 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
CONFIRMED MINUTESFEBRUARY 22-23, 2012
SHERATON SAN DIEGO HOTEL & MARINASAN DIEGO, CA
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 22 to THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 23
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN
1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check
The Aerospace Quality System (AQS) was called to order at 8:00 am, 22-February-12.
A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:
* Robert Bodemuller Ball Aerospace & Technologies* Robin Borrelli The Boeing Company Vice Chairperson
Katie Bradley Lockheed Martin Corporation* Mark Covert Honeywell Aerospace* David Day GE Aviation Chairperson
Caroline DesLandes Bombardier Inc.* Harold Finch Spirit AeroSystems Secretary
Deneige Fitzpatrick Bombardier Inc.Aaron Havlovic Cessna Aircraft Company
* Keith Kastner Cessna Aifcraft Company* Angelina Mendoza Goodrich Corporation* Earl Pruett Lockheed Martin Corporation
Per Rehndell Volvo Aero Corp.Brad Richwine Raytheon Co
* David Vaughn Spirit AeroSystems* Trish Wesemann The Boeing Company* George Winchester Northrop Grumman Corporation
Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME COMPANY NAME
Ben Conral Esterline Advanced SensorsMichael Dudley Aerocom Inspection Service
LimitedDavid Eshleman The Young Engineers IncMelsany Frozman CIMAVLi Li Advanced Nitriding SolutionsDeb Maier ATKFrancisco Morales Hughes Bros. Aircrafters IncThomas Newton Aircraft X-Ray Laboratories
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AEROSPACE QUALITY SYSTEMFEBRUARY 2012
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Steve Senne Aircraft X-Ray LaboratoriesJohn Thomas Timet
* Jim Tuminello Tech Met IncMegumi Yokoyama Advanced Nitriding Solutions
PRI Staff Present
Susan Frailey
1.2 Approval of October 2011 Meeting Minutes
The minutes from October 2011 were reviewed and approved as written.
Motion made by Robin Borrelli and seconded by Mark Covert to formally approve the minutes. Motion Passed
The Code of Ethics, Conflict of Interests, and Anti-Trust statements were reviewed by David Day.
The agenda for this meeting was reviewed by Susan Frailey.
1.3 Review Task Group membership
Jim Tuminello requested to become a Supplier Voting Member. He has met the two consecutive meeting requirement to become an AQS Supplier Voting Member.
Motion made by Earl Pruett and seconded by Angelina Mendoza to accept Jim Tuminello as an AQS Supplier Voting Member. Motion Passed
2.0 TASK GROUP TUTORIAL – OPEN
The AQS Tutorial was given by David Day - No comments
3.0 REVIEW OF RAIL – OPEN
Susan Frailey reviewed the RAIL items. Item 238 was closed.Items 219 and 230 remain open for input throughout the year.
4.0 SSC STATUS REPORT – OPEN
The SSC Task Group Presentation was given by Susan Frailey – No comments
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5.0 METRICS REVIEW - OPEN
5.1 NMC AQS metrics
Susan Frailey presented the NMC AQS metrics – No Comments
5.2 Staff Engineer delegation
Susan Frailey presented the AQS Staff Engineer delegation – No Comments
6.0 MISC REPORTING – OPEN
6.1 Audit Observations
There were no audit observations that were performed during the last 3 months to review. Susan Frailey reviewed the steps to find audits to choose for observation and the process to follow.
6.2 Registrar Notifications & eAN
Susan Frailey took the group through the Registrar Notification charts through January 2012 - No comments
There was no discussion related to eAN.
7.0 QMS INTEGRATION – OPEN
7.1 Liason project
David Day talked to the group about International Aerospace Quality Groups (IAQG) Supplemental Rule 001 and 002 and the impact that it could have on the Nadcap and Supplier base.
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CONFIRMED MINUTESSusan Frailey commented on the fact that Suppliers that have gone through AS9100 upgrade process are not seeing their certifications being posted on OASIS for at least 4 months due to resource issues from the Certified Registration Bodies (CRBs). PRI and the AQS Task Group will continue to moniter this issue.
7.2 Feedback from Liason meeting
During the Liaison meeting the timeline for the AS9100 upgrade transition was discussed to give the Liaisons some information. The Liaisons were also reminded that if any quality questions came up during the week, AQS was meeting on Wednesday and Thursday.
Mark Covert thought that there should be a short “Introduction for AQS Liasions” created for new members.
ACTION ITEM: Mark Covert to create this presentation and present to the AQS group in June DUE DATE: 25-June-12
8.0 AC7004 – OPEN
8.1 Comments, Concerns, and Questions
The review of the AC7004 Revision E checklist resulted in the following actions:
- Add an N/A to question 7.3.3.2 for Suppliers that don’t allow materials to be released until all review/testing has been conducted. Also add guidance to the AQS Audit Handbook.
- Create a sub-team to add clarity to the AQS Audit Handbook on what is being looked for as objective evidence for question 4.2.1 (quality objectives). Team will consist of Deniege Fitzpatrick, David Day, George Winchester, Jim Tuminello, and Susan Frailey.
- Clarity to be added for section 7.4.5.3 on when N/A would be appropriate to be added to the AQS Audit Handbook.
The topic of how much, if any, information the other Task Groups require to be entered into the audit report on what evidence was reviewed to support a ‘Yes’ response to the checklist question. What objective evidence do they require? AQS Liasons will also be asked to pose this question to their respective Task Groups during the June 2012 Nadcap meeting.
ACTION ITEM: Susan Frailey to add clarification to the handbook and to add N/A to the checklist for Section 7.3.3.2 for Suppliers that don’t utilize a recall system due to not allowing such an event. DUE DATE: 25-June-12
ACTION ITEM: To create clarity for objective evidence on Section 4.2.1. Team will consist of Deniege Fitzpatrick, David Day, George Winchester, and Jim Tuminello. DUE DATE: 25-June-12
ACTION ITEM: Susan Frailey to gather information from the other Task Group Leads about adding information into the audit report to support a ‘Yes’ response. The Auditor Liaison members to be asked to do this during the June 2012 Nadcap meeting at their respective Task Group meetings and report back. DUE DATE: 31-Oct-12
9.0 DATA COLLECTION – OPEN
9.1 ANNUAL REVIEW OF FAILURE CRITERIA
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AEROSPACE QUALITY SYSTEMFEBRUARY 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTESSusan Frailey presented the failure criteria for the AQS Task Group per NOP-011 – The decision by the Task Group at this time was to leave the Failure Criteria the same for another year for both initial and reaccreditation audits.
Reviewed Audit Failure Flowchart- No comments
10.0 AUDITOR CONFERENCE – OPEN
10.1 Review of Auditor Conference
Discussed Auditor conference, reviewed 2011 conference and lessons learned.
10.2 Maintaining/Educating of Auditors
For 2012, AQS will do web-based / electronic training in lieu of face-to-face training. A form of evaluation, with a determined percent (%) pass rate, will be used to check effectiveness.
Team established: Susan Frailey (Lead), George Winchester, Patrice Bleau / Deniege Fitzpatrick, Warren Ferree, Trish Wessemann, Mike Ploucha, and Jim Tuminello.
The AQS Task Group needs to create training to qualify AQS Auditors that currently do not meet all the requirements stated in NIP 6-01 and AQS Appendix.
ACTION ITEM: Susan Frailey to send 2011 conference presentation to team and team to bring outline of proposed presentation to June 2012 Nadcap meeting DUE DATE: 15-March-12
ACTION ITEM: A team to complete Auditor conference material by September 2012 for PRI to format and have available for Auditors to complete in month of October 2012 DUE DATE: 15-Sept-12
ACTION ITEM: Robin Borrelli and David Day to review their own company training to see if something can be used for qualification of Nadcap AQS Auditors. DUE DATE: 25-June-12
11.0 NEW BUSINESS – OPEN
Susan Frailey presented a proposed agenda template. The new template would be used by each individual Task Group to replace the current one page Excel agenda. Multiple members commented that they did not like the new format. Several AQS Task Group members support multiple commodities and it is easier to use the one page format to view the agenda topics and know which Task Group to support for specific topics.The AQS as a whole would like to stick with the original Excel spreadsheet that is currently posted.
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Bob Bodemuller gave an update on AS 9003 and stated that the current draft is out for comments to all on the rewrite committee - No Comments
Susan Frailey gave a presentation on the “TOP 10 NCR’s” for AC7004 Rev E, in conjunction with NDT’s top 25 NCRs. – No Comments
David Day presented the changes to NOP-001. No Comments
Update on Supplier exclusions taken to paragraph 7.5.2 on AS9100 accreditations. Subscriber need to discuss with their Suppliers that have AS9100 accreditation and are special process houses – an exception cannot be taken to clause 7.5.2. David Day has sent a request to have NOP-002 revised to include verbiage that will assure the exclusion is not taken – no response yet from the document owner.
AS9100:2009 (Rev C) transition slides were presented by Susan Frailey. The IAQG Supplemental Rules 001 and 002 were also discussed. The NMC has requested from the AQS Task Group a recommendation concerning the timeline and transition of the AS9100 Supplier base in Nadcap. The AQS Task Group has recommended that AS9100:2004 (rev B) accreditations be accepted until January 1, 2013.
ACTION ITEM: David Day and Susan Frailey to respond back to NMC with recommendations on the transistion timeline, risk to the Nadcap program for Suppliers that do not meet the deadline. DUE DATE: 15-March-12
12.0 NEW BUSINESS – CLOSED
None
ADJOURNMENT – 23 Feb 2012 – Meeting was adjourned at 3:00 p.m.
Motion made by George Winchester and seconded by Keith Kastner to adjourn. Motion Passed
