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    From: [email protected] (Len Bucuvalas)Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitorsSubject: !s"c#iatric $valuation on %F& bductions'e"words: cia mj* bus# roc+efeller rot#sc#ild,essage-/: 0112*.*313*@stratus.S4/5.Stratus.5&,6/ate: 1 7an 89 *9:9:3 ;, lines long ...... Len------ Begin ncluded

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    t#at t#e" do not reuire specific e?amination.

    4#en events w#ic# are too anomalous to allow t#eir incorporationinto our world sc#ema are presented to us we are li+el" to dismiss t#emb" using assumptions based in out currentl" operative world view.

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    t#ose reports w#ic# do surface.G ()

    But for t#e clinician w#o spends a moment before reac#ing t#eseGobviousG and GintuitiveG conclusions several fascinating andpotentiall"productive uestions present t#emselves. f we refrain for a s#ortperiodfrom dismissing t#is material out-of-#and we find t#at t#ere are atleastfour areas of puHHling and important discrepanc" between our intuitivesenseof order and t#e data presented b" t#e patient.

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    ps"c#otic distortion. Furt#er if t#is single idea fi? were totall"circumscribed non-invasive and discrete t#at in itself would be #ig#l"anomalous. 4ell-developed fi?ed delusional states wit# numerouselaborated and seuential components are not seen in ot#erwise #ealt#"individuals. !rominent evidence of deep d"sfunction would be e?pectedtopervade man" areas of t#e patientAs life. &ne would predict t#at if t#eabduction e?perience were t#e product of delusional or ot#er ps"c#oticstatesit would be possible to detect suc# evidence t#roug# t#e clinical andps"c#ometric tools available to us.

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    of t#eir personalities....

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    t is important to note t#at not one of t#e subjects based on test data falls into an" of t#ese categories.

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    fact seems impervious to t#e socio-economic educational national orcultural bac+ground of t#e abductee. Similarl" w#et#er t#e individual#as#ad previous contact wit# t#e literature of abduction seems to ma+elittledifference in t#is vein since t#e reports of individuals w#o can bes#own to#ave #ad no e?posure to abduction literature also contains t#ese commonfeatures. S+illed practitioners and investigators report in t#ese casest#att#e" are convinced t#at eac# of t#ese subjects was being w#oll" trut#fulin#isI#er report.

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    contents of t#e scenarios seem upon e?tensive investigation to bearlittlet#ematic relevance to t#e issues in#erent in t#e life of t#e abductee.ntensive follow up investigation freuentl" "ields no t#ematicarc#et"picalprimar" process s"mbolic meaning to t#e s#ape or activities of t#eabductorsand t#e scenario of t#e abduction itself. nstead t#erapeutic wor+ int#esecases centers around t#e issues in#erent in t#e powerlessness andvulnerabilit" of t#e individual even is t#is were not a prominent t#emein #islife before t#e putative abduction. n ot#er words t#e customar"ric#ness ofassociation and creativit" found in t#e e?amination of dreams and ot#erfantas" material is lac+ing wit# regard to t#e scenario and presentationoft#e aliens w#o abduct and manipulate t#e patient in t#e abduction stor".

    f t#e abduction material is indeed arc#et"pal or fantas"

    generated innature t#is is a new class of arc#et"pes.

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    awarenessprior to #"pnosis. (92)

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    eit#er t#e focus or content of t#eir report.

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    seriousl"disturbed t#oroug#l" deluded or a liar careful e?amination of bot# t#ereports and t#eir reports calls t#is assumption into uestion. 5linicalandps"c#ometric investigation of abductees reveals four areas ofdiscrepanc"between t#e e?pected data and t#e observable p#enomena and suggestsfurt#erinvestigation.

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    e?periencingoverw#elming stress predicted onl" in internall" generated states suc#asps"c#otic delusional s"stems or p#obias. But patients reportingabductionfreuentl" s#ow classic signs and s"mptoms of !

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    t#ebasis of t#eir overall ps"c#ologic state. %nless ot#erwise indicatedtreatment s#ould be focused on t#e !

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    (9)4estrum . personal communication wit# t#e aut#or.---------------------------------------(2)Eop+ins B. personal communication wit# t#e aut#or.---------------------------------------()Eop+ins B. G

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    Eere is an article t#at was contributed b" Sand" Barbre regarding anarticlew#ic# appeared in a Springfield ,& newspaper on /ecember 8 88>.QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ5&N.

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    return to New ,e?ico to pinpoint t#e long-ago cras# site no suc# windmill could be see on t#e #oriHon-- until almost b" accident t#e windmill wa spotted be#ind tress t#at #ad grown up during t#e 29 "ears since nderson was last t#ere.

    G got s#ivers over t#at oneG sa"s 7o#n 5arpenter w#o #as e?tensivel" debriefed nderson over t#e past 2 mont#s and went along on ndersonAs return trip to New ,e?ico in &ctober.

    5arpenter #olds degrees in ps"c#olog" and ps"c#iatric social wor+ from /e!auw and 4as#ington universities and trained in clinical #"pnosis at t#e ,enninger nstitute. EeAs in #is *t# "ear of wor+ at a ps"c#iatric #ospital facilit" in Springfield.

    G4#en ;erald tells #is stor" itAs not just a stor" -- itAs #is life #eAs telling "ou intermi?ed wit# #is feelings and #is beliefs and all t#at is ;eraldG 5arpenter sa"s.

    G4#en someone is spinning a #oa? or tale t#e" onl" give "ou

    enoug# to raise "our curiosit". Not ;erald. Ee gives "ou ever"t#ing in detail muc# more t#an "ou as+ #im for. EeAd be setting #imself up to be found out if it wasnAt true. EeAs so confident #e goes so muc# furt#er t#an a #oa?er would ever dare.G

    5arpenter puts great stoc+ in ndersonAs recountings under #"pnosis. GtAs w#at #e didnAt sa" t#at was significant.G 5arpenter sa"s e?plaining t#at despite clever prodding nderson never committed a #oa?erAs mista+e of GrecallingG somet#ing t#at s#ouldnAt be a part of #is own memor".

    Gnd w#en #eAs under #"pnosis all t#e bigger adult words drop out w#en #e describes events from #is c#ild#oodG 5arpenter found. GEe relates w#at #e was in c#ild-li+e terms.G

    5arpenter also detected Ggenuine amaHementG w#en nderson #eard w#at #ad been dredged from #is subconscious memor" under #"pnosis. G percent of mericans w#o #ave college degrees sa" t#e" believe %F&s are real. 4it# suc# a receptive constituenc" w#" would government officials persist in w#at Friedman calls

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    t#e G5osmic 4atergateG -- t#e cover-up and denial of t#e New ,e?ico cras#es !er#aps some speculate because it would be too embarrassing now to admit t#at some supposedl" made-in-%S tec#nologies actuall" were plagiariHed from confiscated spacecraft.

    Friedman emp#asiHes t#at #eAs not as interested in uncovering past misdeeds as #e is in encouraging future progress.

    G believe we s#ould #ave an A$art#lingG orientation rat#er t#an nationalistic orientation.

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    #elicopter to a spot in t#e desert = air miles sout#west oflbuuerue nderson gaHed at a #illside strewn wit# boulders t#esiHe of Dol+swagens and dotted wit# a few gnarled pinion trees t#at#e sa"s #e saw in t#e summer of 82=..... N$4 E&,$

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    Gt was (degrees) out t#ere t#at da". But around t#e craftw#en "ou got close to it it was cold. 4#en "ou touc#ed t#e metal itfelt just li+e it came out of a freeHer.GS&,$

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    nderson sa"s #e lost sig#t of t#e creature as t#e soldiers swarmed

    overt#e site.

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    end. nd ;erald nderson sa"s #e tuc+ed awa" t#e memor" as #e grew intoman#ood. G learned "ou just donAt go up to t#e average person on t#estreet and sa" G/amn +now w#at sawG s and served a doHen "earsinposts around t#e globe. Ee lived for a few "ears in 5olorado wor+ingas aparamedic and wor+ing toward a college degree in microbiolog". n 8=8#emoved to ,issouri to better raise #is daug#ter awa" from w#at #e termst#eGdrugg"G atmosp#ere of /enver. n addition to #is law enforcementpostsnderson #as wor+ed for two sout#west ,issouri truc+ing firms as adriverand instructor. nderson also #as been active in t#e $piscopal 5#urc#. Ee recentl"

    waselected to t#e vestr" at scension $piscopal in Springfield and isstud"ingtoward becoming a deacon. gold crucifi? - a cross complete wit# afigure of t#e mart"red 5#rist affi?ed to it - suspended from a c#ainaroundndersonAs nec+ is testimon" to #is fait#.

    N& 5&NFL5< N B$L$FS

    lt#oug# #e concedes #is account mig#t ma+e some fellow c#urc#goersuncomfortable nderson sees no conflict between w#at #e saw wit# #ise"esand w#at #e believes in #is #eart: G4#en "ouAre tal+ing about t#econceptof ;od "ou #ave to be tal+ing in t#e conte?t of a universal situationsadeit" t#at built t#e w#ole universe. nd w#" s#ould we assume t#at t#isspec+ of sand in t#e bac+water of space would be t#e onl" place t#at anall-perfect almig#t" ;od could create lifeG n fact nderson sa"s #e GwouldnAt be one bit surprised to find outt#at w#erever t#is creature came from t#ere t#e" #ave a ver" strongconcept of a supreme being. Because of m" contact wit# t#e creatures#oweda #ig# degree of civiliHed sop#istication gentleness compassion - allof

    t#e t#ings we #old as ideals.G &f t#e five anderson men w#o ventured into t#e desert t#at da" in82=onl" ;erald is still alive. ge illness and accidents claimed t#e ot#erfour in recent "ears. But not onl" andersons were at t#e scene ;eraldsa"s and #e #opes #is decision to come fort# albeit belated willencourage ot#ers to tell w#at t#e" +now and spur official revelationsaboutt#e captured craft and creatures. G want to see t#e government stand up and sa" ALoo+ weAre not

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    alonein t#e universe.LetAs ma+e a AStar >>.G-R-----end of stor"--------------$&F

    --- /on llen - nterNet: dona@bilver.%%5! II miga..for t#e rest ofus.%Snail: 11; Landing /r Sanford Fl 9*== TCI 4#" use an"t#ing else:U)%%5!: ..uunetOtarpitObilverOvicsto"Odona >> >> >> 7ust sa"N&O

    lluminati 0 ,7-*V;rudgeV of alt.conspirac":!at#: lassieOvoderOp"ramidOdecwrlOwuarc#iveOHap#od.mps.o#io-state.eduOt#in+.comOmasscompOpeoraOtarpitObilverOdonaFrom: [email protected] (/on llen)Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitorsalt.conspirac"Subject: NF&:5E!

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    - 4#at is an %nidentified Fl"ing &bject (%F&) 4ell according to%nitedStates ir Force egulation 1>-= (dated 8 September 833) a %F& isGn"Gaerial !#enomenon or object w#ic# is un+nown or appears to be out oft#eordinar" to t#e observer.G

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    ( !age

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    sop#isticated t#e observer. Not onl" were t#e ancient observerslac+ingt#e terminolog" necessar" to describe comple? devices (suc# as presentda"#elicopters) but t#e" were also lac+ing t#e concepts necessar" tounderstand t#e true nature of suc# t#ings as television spaces#ipsroc+ets nuclear weapons and radiation effects.

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    G4#en t#e leader saw w#at #e #ad done to #is own people #e retired

    to#is palace and refused to see an"one.

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    Biblealso tells a rat#er unusual stor" of $He+iel w#o witnessed w#at #asbeeninterpreted b" some to #ave been a spacecraft or aircraft landing neart#e5#ebar iver in 5#aldea (89 B.5.).

    $ven t#e ris# #ave recorded strange visitations. n t#e Speculumegali in 'onungs S+uggsa (and ot#er accounts of t#e era about 83./.)are numerous stories of Gdemons#ipsG in t#e s+ies. n one case a ropefromone suc# s#ip became entangled wit# part of a c#urc#. man from t#es#ipclimbed down t#e rope to free it but was seiHed b" t#e townspeople.

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    lot w#ere a great cigar-s#aped s#ip about 9>> feet long floated some 9>feet above t#e cattle. t #ad a carriage underneat# w#ic# was brig#tl"lig#ted wit#in (dirigible and gondola) and w#ic# #ad numerous windows.nside were si? strange loo+ing beings jabbering in a foreign language.

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    5ontinued -

    !;$ SCWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW,"sticism

    t is believed b" some cults t#at t#e mission of %F&As and t#eir

    crewsis a spiritual one and t#at all materialistic efforts to determine t#e%F&As nature are doomed to failure.Eoa?es and antings due to %nstable !ersonalities

    Some #ave suggested t#at all %F& reports were t#e results of pran+s

    and #oa?es or were made b" people wit# unstable personalities.

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    beams on cloud bases to determine t#e #eig#t of t#e aircraft visualceiling).t is also suspected t#at people #ave reported mirages opticalillusionsswamp gas and ball lig#tning (a poorl"-understood disc#arge ofelectricalenerg" in a sp#eroidal or ellipsoidal s#ape...some c#arges #ave lastedforup to fifteen minutes but t#e ball is usuall" no bigger t#an a largeorange.)But it is difficult to tell a swamp dweller t#at t#e strange fast-movinglig#t #e saw in t#e s+" was swamp gasJ and it is just as difficult totella farmer t#at a brig#t %F& in t#e s+" is t#e same ball lig#tning t#at#e#as seen rolling along #is fence wires in dr" weat#er.

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    particular importance t#at after t#e Gpost#"pnotic bloc+G was removedbot#of t#e Eills ceased #aving t#eir ps"c#ological problems.

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    !;$ $;E> feet altitude.>> "ards t#e pilot armed #is guns andfired in an attempt to down t#e saucer. Ee failed and t#e %F& pulledawa"rapidl" vanis#ing in t#e distance.

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    7anine Dallee #ave ta+en a particular t"pe of %F& - namel" t#ose t#atarelower t#an tree-top level w#en sig#ted - and plotted t#e %F&Asestimateddiameter versus t#e estimated distance from t#e observer.

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    areaJno suc# stud" #as "et been underta+en at t#e necessar" levels ofintensit"and support. &ne t#ing t#at must be guarded against in an" suc# stud"ist#e trap of implicit" assuming t#at our +nowledge of !#"sics (or an"ot#erbranc# of science) is complete. n e?ample of one suc# trap isselectinga group of p#"sical laws w#ic# we now accept as valid and assume t#att#e"will never be superceded.

    !;$ $L$D$NWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWFive suc# laws mig#t be:

    ) $ver" action must #ave an opposite and eual reaction.

    *) $ver" particle in t#e univers attracts ever" ot#er particle wit# a force proportional to t#e product of t#e masses and inversel" ast#e suare of t#e distance.

    9) $nerg" mass and momentum are conserved.

    2) No material bod" can #ave a speed as great as c t#e speed oflig#t in free space.

    )

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    asrelated or relevant to t#e %F&As.99.3 5&N5L%S&N

    From available information t#e %F& p#enomenon appears to #ave been

    global in nature for almost >>>> "ears.

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    - >*8

    & 5LL (*>3) =*->9> >> >> 7ust sa"N&Olluminati 0 ,7-*V;rudgeV

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    will post anot#er list in a few da"s wit# more specifics.

    ----------Begin included te?t--------------------------------

    %F&L&; B&&'S ($DS&N *.> 99* boo+s) --------------------------------------

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    Bill Barr" %L

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    5#arles Bowen %F&AS N

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    sabel /avis 5L&S$ $N5&%N

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    Stanton Friedman %F&AS

    /avid Eaisell

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    /ino 'raspedon , 5&N

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    /r. /onald ,enHel

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    SD$ BBL&;!E &F 4&'S N $N;LSE 81

    7. immer

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    oger Stanwa" FLN; S%5$ $!&< - %F&AS %N/$N

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    N&Olluminati 0 ,7-*V;rudgeV1:2:>8 ;,2 819 923 G5aterers to t#e $lder ;odsGLines: 1

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    t seems t#at people #ave an ine?plicable desire to belive in somet#ing#ig#ert#an t#eir own e?istance and t#e %F& craHe fills t#at nic#e. ndeedin apoll ta+en a few "ears ago in Britain it was found t#at more peoplebelievedin Gfl"ing saucersG t#an believed in ;od.

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    t#an to construct an elaborate #"pot#esis of alien visitation.

    side note: t#e document from t#e %SF is obviousl" false.

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