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Clutch ChangeStarted by Paul , Mar 1 8 2006 04:58 AM

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Paul

Well I finally got around to the clutch change job. Thanks to those who replied to my earlier question in anticipation

of this job. Les' suggestion of using two ropes (in my cases chains), one to lift the gearbox/transfer box, and another

to stop the lot from trying to turn, was just the ticket.

I used an engine crane to do the job, since I had to do it all on my own (and I'm a weedy bugger to be honest).

Two chains as I said, and it all pulled back enough to change the clutch & fork after the handbrake was removed from

the transfer box.

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The old clutch was an AP brand, installed by the previous owner at 98,000km (currently up to 172,000km), so it

only lasted 74,000km. I took White90s advice and replaced it with a 130 clutch, Valeo brand. Interestingly there's

little difference between the actual plates, in fact the 130 plate is about 1mm smaller in diameter, but has 2 extra

springs.

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The cover is quite different though, the 130 jobbie has the spring plate divided up into 18 segments whereas the AP is

divided up into 15 segments.

One thing I did do was to put a zip tie around the slave cylinder rod. It helps to make sure the thing doesn't drop out

next time I have to remove the slave cylinder.

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I also found out why I had the occasional judder when letting the clutch out. I thought is was probably the clutch

itself letting me know that its time was nearly up. I think this might be the real reason though:

The mounting rubber on one side of the transfer box literally fell out when I unbolted it. Funny, it looked to be in

perfect condition when it was still in place.

The only whoopsie occured when I was having a period of deep enjoyment trying to line up the swinging monster to

get the little shaft back in that little spiggot bearing. I must have been looking for something to brace myself with

whilst pushing and lifting and twisting, and ended up leaning against the clutch pedal pushing it down slightly and

popping the piston out of the slave cylinder. Thank goodness for those one man bleed kits.

Paul

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cols110

Thats a job well done mate, the engine crane certainly make life a bit easier.

Beats having to drop it all down on the ground by yourself, in a couple of pieces.

Posted 1 8 Ma r ch 2 006 - 05 :5 2 A M

minivin

like the ty-wrap on the clutch rod clip, will do that myself now as it's has been worrying me

Posted 1 8 Ma r ch 2 006 - 07 :2 9 A M

Ajlorton

I did the tie-wrap (zip-tie) thing on mine also. Has worked a treat in that I've since replaced the slace cylinder and it

pull off. I should have posted details up as a handy-hint, but I thought it was too obvious!

Posted 1 8 Ma r ch 2 006 - 05 :08 PM

simonb

Clutch doesn't look worn to me as there are still the radial grooves on the friction material and its not down to the

rivets. Even the spring fingers on the cover don't seem to be that badly grooved. Was it actually slipping? If it was

just judddering it was probably the mount as you say. Excellent idea for the cable tie on the clutch arm, wish I had

thought of that when i did my gearbox change......

Posted 1 8 Ma r ch 2 006 - 05 :3 9 PM

Paul

simonb, on Mar 19 2006, 03:09 AM, said:

Clutch doesn't look worn to me as there are still the radial groov es on the friction material and its not down to the riv ets.

Ev en the spring fingers on the cov er don't seem to be that badly groov ed. Was it actually slipping? If it was just

judddering it was probably the mount as y ou say . Excellent idea for the cable tie on the clutch arm, wish I had thought of

that when i did my gearbox change......

You're right Simon, it doesn't look at all worn. The spring fingers had hardly any groove from the thrust bearing and

there wasn't any oil over it either. But, yes it was slipping, quite badly in fact. On a flat road full throttle in 4th gear at

60kph would make it slip badly. Steep hills were out of the question. There was plenty of free play in the pedal too,

so I have no idea why it gave up the way it did.

Paul

Posted 1 9 Ma r ch 2 006 - 1 2 :4 7 A M

western

mines just gone in today for this job, stuff doing it myself to heavy & far too cold for a big job like that

Posted 2 1 Ma r ch 2 006 - 06 :2 4 PM

Paul

western, on Mar 22 2006, 03:54 AM, said:

mines just gone in today for this job, stuff doing it my self to heav y & far too cold for a big job like that

Probably a smart move with the weather you guys get.

What sort of clutch are you replacing it with Ralph? 130 or std?

Paul

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western

Paul, on Mar 21 2006, 10:12 PM, said:

Probably a smart mov e with the weather y ou guy s get.

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What sort of clutch are y ou replacing it with Ralph? 1 30 or std?

Paul

IIRC it's got a 130 version fitted at the moment which is duff for slipping, I just want it to work properly, but should

be a 130 type.

timberdog

nice job like the use of crane

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