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GEORGE
P.
CONGER
Did ndianfluence
Early
reek
hilosophie
In the
belief
hatthis
ntriguing
estof
problems
eeds
o
be
re-examined,
recently
pent
omemonths
n
India,
Greece,
ndthe
Near
East
nd
n
ibraries
n
Europe
nd
America.
n
ade-
quate tudyftheproblemsould equire ears.n this eportofferome
impressions
hich
hesitate
o
call
conclusions,
ut
which
may
erve
t
least
o
state ome
f
the
questions.
o
attempt
s
made
o
enumeratehe
kindly
cholars
ho n all
these
ountries elcomed
e
and
helped
me. I
would
e
glad
o
receive urtherriticisms
nd
uggestions
rom
nyone
ho
is
interested-especially
t
any
oint
where
may
avefollowedhe
wrong
expert.
t
should e
noted
hat
onsideration
s
here
lmost
ntirely
onfined
to
philosophers
rior
o
Socrates;
he
roblems
f
possible
astern
nfluences
on Plato andAristotleretoo involvedorbrief reatment,nd in the
Hellenistic
eriod,
fter
he
blaze
of
Alexander,
onditions
ere
different
from
hose
f
the
arly ays.
I
It
begins
o
appear
hat
he
lder iscussionsf this
uestion
avebeen
either
asty
nd
uperficial,
ased
n
inadequate
nowledge
f
one
or
more
of the
ultures
tudied,
r
havebeen
oo
exclusively
hilological,
ased
oo
narrowlypon
he
vailable
extual
vidence.
ccasionally
writer
xhibits
bothfaults.'As
regards
hilology,
oone candoubt hat thas ts ndis-
1
Brief
mention f
earlier
works
n
the field
sually
ncludes he
very
oose
comparisons
y
Sir William
Jones,
Works
London:
G. G. and
J.
Robinson, 799),
Vol.
I,
pp.
360
ff.,
nd
by
H.
Gladisch,
ie
Religion
und
die
Philosophie
n ihrer
Weltgeschichtlichen
ntwicklung
(Breslau:
F.
Hirt,1852),
and other
works.
More cautious ffirmative
pinions
were
xpressed
by
R.
Garbe,
Philosophy
f
Ancient ndia
(Chicago:
Open
Court,
899),
pp.
32
ff.,
2
ff.
These
were countered
y
the
strongly egative
pinions
f
E.
Zeller,
Die
Philosophie
er
Griechen,
th
ed.
(Leipzig:
Fues,
R.
Riesland, 870),
Vol.
,
pp.
28
ff.
Zeller
has
beenfollowed
by
J.
Burnet,
arly
Greek
hilosophy,
th ed.
(New
York:
The
Macmillan
ompany,
948),
pp.
15
ff.
H.
G. Rawlinson's
ntercourseetween ndia
and
the
Western
World
from
he
Earliest
imes
o
theFall
of
Rome
Cambridge: ambridge
niversity
ress,
916)
is
valuable
for
background,
ut
some statements
bout
Greek
philosophies
n
his
paper
n
the volume
edited yG. T. Garratt,heLegacy f ndia (Oxford:Clarendonress, 937), pp. 4 ff., eed
to
be
scrutinized.or
an
extensive
ibliography,
ee
E.
Zeller,
a
filosofia
ei
Grecn
ranslated
by
R.
Mondolfo
Florence:
a nuova
talia,1932),
Vol.
I,
Parte
1,
pp.
63-99.
102
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104
GEORGE
P. CONGER
possible
ommunication.
ne was
by
watervia the
Arabian
Sea,
then
by
the
Persian
Gulfor
theRed
Sea,
and
eventually y
and
to
theMediterranean
or
Aegean.
The other
oute
an
overland,
hrough
he
ranian
plateau
and
the
Mesopotamian
iver
alleys
ndthen
by
various
branchings
o different
sections
f
the Mediterraneanoast.
(Other
possibilities
ia Arabia
on
the
south
nd
the
Oxus Riverand Black Sea
on
the
north re
here
eft
ut
of
account.)
Any
of
the routes
n
ancient imes
equired
long
hard
ourney
in
the
face
of
forbidding
atural onditions.
ach
was
subject
o
occasional
disruptions
y
war
or
piracy,
ut
it
appears
that
generally
he
routes,
t
least
by
one
makeshift
r
another,
ere
open.
By
sea
the ittle
hips
ould
hug
the coast
or,
with
the use
of
homing
birds,
enture
ccasionally
ut
of sight f theshores.ScylaxofCaryandra,t thecommand fDarius I,
about
516
B.C.,
ailed down the Indus
and
around
o
Egypt,
voyage
of
thirty
months.4
y
land
the
caravans
ould
plod along, say
twenty
miles
per day,
from
ne
halting
lace
to another.When
by
any
means
the
coast
of the
Mediterranean
as
reached,
herestwas
relativelyasy.
Greece,
with
its
ndented
oast
ine,
was
naturally
dapted
or
eafaring.
he
many
slands
on three
ides
were ike
stepping
tones
nd
almost
ike
bridges
or
ncient
travelers.
ne does
not
need
to think f
continuous
ourneys y
dventurous
individuals,
overing
housands
f
miles nd sustained
ormonth
fter
month.
Alongeither oute herewere ettlementshere, nder rdinaryonditions,
travelers,
ringing
ith
hem heir
deas,
might
arry
or onsiderablenter-
vals
before
ressing
nward.
With
or without
enefit
f
such
halting
laces,
he
numerous raditions
that ncient
hilosophers
isited
emote
egions
nd
either
ave
or
received
ideas need
to
be scrutinized
ith
considerable
are.
The stories
re
usually
late
and
are
likely
o
reflectendenciesurrent
n
the
days
of
chroniclers
r
interpreters
ho
were
not
very
areful
r
critical.
At
the same
time t must
be
remembered
hat uch
ourneys
ere n
principleossible
nd
that ccounts
of them did
not seem
utterly
bsurd
o
the
original
writers nd readers.
Eventhe
most ncisive riticism
have
een
akes few
f
the tories
eriously.5
The
most
striking
f the
stories s the one which
Eusebius,
uoting
Aristocles,
scribes o Aristoxenus.
he
story
as
it that certain
ndian
at
Athens,
when he asked Socrates
bout
his
philosophy
nd
was
told
that
Socrates
iscussed
uman
ife, nswered,
How is it
possible
obe sure bout
human
affairs
f
one
is
ignorant
f
things
ivine? 6The
story
s
usually
dismissed
s
improbable
nd
apocryphal,
otivated
y
some ate
criticism,
' Herodotus,v. 44.
'T.
Hopfner,
Orient
nd
Griechische
hilosophie,
er Alte
Orient,
eihefte
(1925),
8-27.
6Eusebius, raeparatio
vangelica,
i,
3,
8.
The
story
s
criticized
y
A.
J. Festugiere
n
Revue
e
l'histoire
es
religions,
XXX
(1945),
34
ff.
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DID INDIA
INFLUENCE
EARLY
GREEK
PHILOSOPHIES?
105
perhaps
ythagorean,
f
the
humanistic
ocrates.
t
raises ome
complicated
questions.
n
theFirst
Alcibiades,
ocrates s made
to
say
thathe who
looks
at the divinepartof thesoul and at things ivinewill be most ikely o
know himself.'
his
passage
has
been
used
to
support
he
argument
hat
the
FirstAlcibiades s not
by
Plato,s
but
is an
attempt y
a
Platonist
o
restate
ome Platonic theses
nd
to
defend ocrates
gainst
the
Indian
criticism
y
makingknowledge
f
the divine
rucial
or he
proper
onduct
of
human affairs. ritics f
the
story
verlook
what
might
have
been
its
provenance;
ristoxenuss
said
to
have been
a friend f
one of
the
youngest
followers
f
Socrates
nd to have
been
either
son or a
contemporary
f
Spintharus,
ho is
also said
to
have
known
ocrates
ersonally.'
As
to
the
authenticityf thestorybout the ndian, nemayperhaps uspend urther
judgment
hile
onsidering
atters iscussed
elow.
It
is
true
that for
a time the Greeks
had
their
uperiority
omplex
s
regards
barbarians,
ut the
prejudice
eems
to have
developed
n
the
classical
eriod,
artly
s a
reaction
o the Persianwars.
In
the
earlier
ays
the
young
nd
tentative ivilization
f
Greece
musthave been
powerfully
impressed
y
the much
older
civilizations
round
t,
by
Egypt
f
not
by
Babylon.
Our traditions
ave
magnified
he
Greeks,
omewhat
s
they
ave
magnified
he
Israelites,
making
hem
ppearculturally
more
ndependentthanwe need o
suppose hey
were rcouldhavebeen.
The
history
f
Asia Minor
hroughout
illenniumss
a
bewildering
ix-
ture
f
migrations,
nvasions,
ars,
estructions,
nd
butcheries.
iewing
t
end-on,
s
we do
from
ur
more or less safe
distance,
ne
wondershow
there
was
anything
eft for
the
archaeologists
r
historians.
estruction,
however,
uries
s well as
burns;
he
rchaeologists
ave been ble
to
recover
far
more
han
might
ave
been
expected,
nd the
end
is
not
yet.
The more
progressive
men
declare
that
archaeology
s in
its
infancy.
Ancient
wars,
violent s theywere,were cultural atalysts;mercenaryroops n one side
and
enslaved
aptives
n
the
other
helped
n
the diffusion
f
ideas.
Out of
the welter
f
war
occasionally
great
mpire
was
formed
nd,
t
least
for
time,
ncouragement
as
given
to
the
arts of
peace.
Babylon
was
by
no
means
the boorishmonster hich
ome of
our
literature
uggests,
nd the
Lydian mpire
rom
he
eighth
o
the
sixth
entury,
s
a
great
ntermediary
between he
Orient nd the
Occident,10
as
apparently
ttractive
o
visitors.
Of
prime
mportance
was
the
Achaemenian
mpire,
beginning
with
7
Alcibiades
133c.
8
J.Bidez, os (Brussels:M.Hayez, 945), pp. 123ff.
'K.
von
Fritz,
Pythagorean
olitics
n
Southern
taly
(New
York:
Columbia
University
ress,
1940),
p.
28.
:0
G.
Radet,
La
Lydie
et le monde
grecque
(Paris:
Thorin
et
fils,
1893),
p.
270;
A.
Rey,
La
science
orientale
vant
es
Grecques
(Paris:
A.
Michel,
1942),
p.
21.
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GEORGE
P. CONGER
Cyrus
,
who
captured
ardis
n
546
B.C.
nd
Babylon
n
539,
and
continuing
until
ts overthrow
y
Alexander he
Great
n
333.
In
its
great
days
the
empire f Darius I and Xerxesstretchedrom heIndusto theMediter-
ranean.
n
the
culptures
n the
taircase
t
Persepolis,
howing
he
procession
of
representatives
f
more
han
wenty
ations
ringing
ribute
o
the
Great
King,
some emissaries ear the tunic
f
Ionia,
some ead
the
two-humped
camel
of
Bactria,
nd some
the
humped
ull
of
India.
Except
forMarathon
and
the
later
battles,
he
empire
might
have includedGreece
tself,
s it
included he
Greek
cities
f
Ionia.
Heraclitus ived
n
the
Persian
Empire,
Xenophanes
was
born
here,
nd
there
were
ndians
n the
rmy
f
Xerxes.
The
general
policy
was one of
tolerance
f
local
institutions
nd
beliefs,
as long as therewereno revolts nd tributewas dulypaid. Fromearlier
times
herewas
a
road
of
sorts
rom
ran
to
Sardis;
he
Achaemenian
ings
made
it
the
Royal
Road,
a
great
highway
or
military
nd commercial
purposes
with
he nevitable
y-products
nd overtones
f
culture.
The
study
f commercial
elations,
articularly
s
revealed
y
rchaeology,
offers ome results
ignificant
or our
problem.
There
is now
widespread
agreement
hat rom emote imes
he
ncient ations
raded
with
ne another
much
morethanhas
usually
been
supposed.
We have
rated oo
highly
he
political
nd
linguisticarriers,
hich
fter
ll
were
semi-permeable
em-
branes.
Among
the notable
urprises
f recent
years
have been the ndica-
tions
hatthe
Indus
Valley
civilization
f
about
2500
B.C.
imported
ome
articles
rom
Mesopotamia,
nd vice
versa;
bjects
haracteristic
f
each area
have been
found
n
the
ruins f the
other.
n
the
Aegean
copper ge,
down
to
about 2400
B.C.,
there
was
lively
rade
n
the
Cyclades.'2
Crete
eems
to have been
an
emporium.
n
fact,
o
great ity
ike
Nineveh
or
Babylon
or
Miletus
could
have
grown
up
without ommerce orne
ndirectly
r
directlyy
and and sea.
A few tems fdetail re likestrawshowing ariousways nwhich he
trade
winds
blew.
The Chaldeans
n
the ninth
entury
re
said to
have
had
an
active
rade
with
ndia. 3
n
the
ighth
entury,
reek
ompetition
orced
even
the
roving
hoenicians
rom
he
Mediterranean. 4
ssurbanipal
n
the
seventh
entury
s said
to
have
sent
to
India
for
the
wool-bearing
ree,
which
we
know
as
cotton. l
At about the same time rice was known n
Mesopotamia. 6
n that
ame
century
hrygia
nd
Lydia
had
an
extensive
'
Herodotus,
ii.
65.
2
Encyclopaedia
ritannica,
4th
d.
(1942),
Vol.
X,
p.
754.
13 .Kennedy,Early ommercefBabylonwithndia, JournalftheRoyalAsiatic ociety
of
Great
ritain
nd
reland
1898),
pp.
246
ff.
Encyclopaedia
ritannica,
4th
d.,
Vol.
X,
p.
762.
'
Rawlinson,
ntercourse
etween
ndia nd
the
Western
orld,
p.
2
ff.
R.
C.
Thompson
n
raq,
VI
(1939),
182.
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EARLY GREEK
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107
tradewith
he
East.17
n theruins f
Babylon,
ating
rom
he
ixth
entury,
the
excavators ound
eak
wood,
presumably
rom
India. s
An
inscription
of Darius , now n theLouvre, ays hathe brought oodfrom he Hindu
Kush
region
nd
ivory
rom
Abyssinia
nd
India.
Ships
of Darius
are
said
to have sailed
from
he
Nile
through
heRed
Sea to
Iran.'
A
marble
orso,
unmistakably
reek,
was
found t
Persepolis
nd is now
in
the Teheran
Museum.
By
this
time
Egypt,
which
for
centuries ad
been
closed
to
foreigners,
had
so farmodified
ts
policy
s to
invite
he
Greeks
o
make
a
settlement
in
the
Nile
Delta. The
important
rading
enter
Naucratis,
ignificantly
enough,
was a
colony
fMiletus.
t
continued
o
flourishntil bout
520
B.C.,
with emples o theGreekgodsshowing hat ifetherewas notwithoutts
intangibles.20
erodotus
ays
hat rom
Naucratis
he
Greeks
were
ransferred
to
Memphis.21
From
the fourth
entury
here
was a
temple
f
Isis
in
the
Peiraeus.22
aure
says
thatfrom 20
to
525
the
Greeks ould
go
to
India
freely.23
An
indication
f
widespread
Greek
commerce
ppears
n
the work of
Sir
Leonard
Wooley
at Al
Mina
in
northern
yria.
Here
was a commercial
port
withthe remains
f
buildings
o
stocked
with
Greek
pottery
hat
the
inference
s
that
they
were warehouses.
The dates
assigned
o
the
pottery
indicate,
oo,
that the
trade
between
Greece
and the
East
continued
ight
through
he
period
f
the
Persian
wars.24
Rice
was
known n
Greece
n the
time
f
Sophocles;25erhaps
epper
nd
mustard,oo,
were
on
Greek ables
in
thefifth
entury.26
Except
for
pottery
nd
its
fragments,
he
physical
emains f such com-
merce
re
scanty.
oubtless
much,
nd
perhaps
most,
raffic as
n
perishable
goods
such
as food
products,
ines,
ndtextiles.
n
one notable
espect
he
potsherds
hemselves
ive
indications
f
cultural
nfluences
rom
he
East;
this, bout700
B.c.,
is theshiftn Greecefrom heearlygeometricalype
of
decoration
o themore
mobile orientalized
esigns,
ith
reer
elineation
1
M.
Rostovtzef,
istory
f
the
Ancient
World
Oxford:
Clarendon
ress,
926),
Vol.
I,
p.
193.
De
Lacy
O'Leary,
ow
Greek
cience
assed o the
Arabs
London:
Routledge
nd
Kegan
Paul, 1948),
p.
97.
Cf.
J.
Horrell,
Sea Trade
n
Early
imes,
Antiquity,
V
(1941),
248.
1
W. W.
Hyde,
Ancient
reekMariners
New
York:
Oxford
niversity
ress,
947),
p.
176.
0
H. G.
Rawlinson,
istory
f
Ancient
gypt
Boston:
Cassino,
stes nd
Lauriat, 882),
Vol.
II,
pp.
480
ff.
'
Herodotus,
i.
154;
but
cf.
D.
H.
Gordon,
The Buddhist
rigins
f
the Sumerian'
eads
from
Memphis,
raq,
VI
(1939),
37.
'
P.
Foucart,
es
mystdres
'Eleusis
Paris:
A.
Picard, 914), p.
17.
' J.A. Faure, 'Agyptet espresocratiquesParis:Stock, 923), p. 21.
SC.
L.
Wooley,
Excavationst
Al
Mina,
Journal
f
Hellenic
tudies,
VIII
(1938), 13,
22.
'
Kennedy,
p.
cit.,
p.
268.
W. W.
Tarn,
The Greeks
n
Bactria
nd India
(Cambridge:
ambridge
niversity
ress,
1938),
pp.
365,
370.
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GEORGE
P.
CONGER
of
animal
and
human
igures.27
t
has
been
suggested
hat
he new
designs
were
adapted
from
mported
extileswhich
re
now lost.
To
trace commerce etween
ncientnations
one need
not
depend
al-
together
n
material
ulture
aid bare
n
archaeology;
henumerous
nstances
known
n
comparative
hilology
n
which
oreign
ords
orvarious rticles
crop
out
in
language
after
anguage
ndicate hatthe articles
hus named
came
with he
words.
No
attempt
an
be made
hereto
go
into
the details
and the
controversies,
ut sometime ome
superphilologist
hould
bring
together
nto
one
picture
he words
which
n
one or
another
f
the various
languages
tand,
for
example,
for
almonds, loes,
apes, beryll,
amphor,
carpets,
assia,
chicory,
inger,
vory,myrrh, epper,
rice, tin,
and other
things.A specialcase appears n the word for kind ofwoolen
mantle.28
Beyond
he data
of
archaeology
nd
philology
like,
ne
must
dmit hat
various rticles
f
merchandise,
ith or without
ocuments,
re oftennot
lacking
n
suggestion
nd
may
well
come
trailing
deas
with
hem.
We
may
always
doubt
f
highly
developed
heories
bout
the
world
are
accurately
transmitted
y
untrained
men
along
the
trade
routes,
ut
stories,
egends,
and
myths
ass
current
verywhere;cythian
omads,
Phoenician
ailors
(from
he nationwhich
nvented
he
alphabet),
camel
drivers,
nd
peasants
of
all
lands
nd times ave
had
a kind f
gift
f
tongues.
Garbled
deasand
rudimentary
uggestions
asily
lipthrougho findodgmentnminds
apable
of
developing
hem.
III
It is
understood
hat
ndia,
ran,
nd
Greece
had a
common
eritage
rom
Aryan
days,
lthough
ust
whatthe
heritage
was
and
how
it
came to
them
are difficult
uestions.
At all events
we
may
nfer hat
omewhere
ack
n
human
prehistory
here
was
a
primeval
tage
in which
the cosmos was
regardeds vaguely live and as moreor lesssimilar oman'sbody, rcon-
sciousness,
r
mind,
r
thought,
r
word,
r
right
ction.
Instead f
mere
projections,
he
gods
of
polytheism
ay
have
been
so
many
rystallizations,
alternately
ormed
nd dissolved
ithin
uch matrix.
he
gods
re
regarded
as
being,
r
being
ike,
natural
bjects
nd
processes,
nd
sooner
r
later
s
being,
r
being
ike,
animals,
ertility
igures,
oodsubstances r
symbols,
ancestors,
nd heroes. Sometimes
hey mbody
r reflectthical
deals or
what
aterbecome
ogical principles.
When the curtain
egins
o
rise for
us,
the
Aryan
raditionseem
to
exhibit
ome of these
characteristics.he
J.
D.
Beazley
nd
D.
S.
Robertson
n
Cambridge
ncient
istory
New
York:
The Mac-
millan
ompany,
926),
Vol.
V,
pp.
582
ff.
'
J.
Przyluski,
L'Influence
'Iran
en
Grece
et dans
l'Inde,
Revue
de
l'Universite e
Bruxelles,
XXVII
(1932),
284.
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109
heritage
n East and West
is
plainest
n the name
of the
sky god
Dyaus
Pitar
Zeus
Pater
Jupiter;
here
re
a fewother ndications
f
common
ancestral ulture nd institutions. or ourproblems hesedatamaywork
either
way--on
theone
hand,
making
atercultural ransmissions
asier,
and,
on
the other
hand,
making
hem
unnecessary.
t is easier
to
discern
common lements
or he
ndo-Iranian
roup
hanfor he
ess
closely
elated
Indo-European
amily
s a whole.
It
begins
o be clearthat he
ndians nd
Iranians
had
in
common,
or
example,
he
gods
Mitra
and
Yama,
the
use
of
the sacred
plant
haoma,
or
soma,
and some
duality
etween
ight rta,
arta)
and
wrong
drubh,
ruj).29
Dumezil's
detection f a
common
ocietal
structureeflected
n
various
mythologies
pplies
o
India
and
ran,
lthough
it is more vident n Romethan nGreecebefore hetimeofPlato. 3
IV
In
such a
quest
as
this,
ne
mustfollow
various
rails,
ot all
of
which
yield
appreciable
eturn.For
instance,
he law
codes
of
ancient
peoples
exhibit
ountless
imilarities,
ut it
is a
question
whether
much s
to
be
gained
here
by
comparisons.
n
any
early ociety
here re
only
about so
many
ules
o
observe
nd
only
bout o
many
rimeswhichmark
nfractions
oftherules. t isnot trangefmany rall primitiveeoples rrive tpretty
much he
same
standards.
nly
an
occasional
eculiarity
eed
be
noticed--
for a
well-known
xample,
he
fact hat
the
Buddhists,
ythagoreans,
nd
Empedocles 1
ll
forbade he
ating
f
beans.
Efforts
o
show
that
he
styles
f
early
rchitecture
nd
sculpture
f
ndia,
Iran,
Assyria,
gypt,
nd
Greece
are
variously
ntertwined
ay
offer
ome
suggestions
or
ur
study,
ut
now
seemto
yield
ittle ndication f
possible
communication.
omebody
had to
learn
to
substitutetone
columns
for
tree
runks
n
support
f
a
roof,
nd
perhaps omeGreekfirstawthedevicein
Egypt
r
elsewhere.
Egypt's
echniques
f
stonework
may
have
helped
the
Greeks,32
nd
elements f
ornamentation
ay
well
have
been
adopted
from
ther
ultures.
ut
the
flutings
f
a
column
r
thevolutes
f a
capital,
even
if
they
could
speak
with
onic
clarity,
might
not
convey
ny
great
ideas.
The famous
Gandhdra
culptures,
ith
their
Greek or
Roman in-
fluence,
re
by
everal
enturies
oo
recent or
ur
tudy.
It
is
plausible
o
suppose
hatthe
traditions
f
ancient
ndian
medicine,
J.Duchesne-Guillemin,
oroastre
Paris:
Maisonneuvet
Cie,
1948),
pp.
62
ff.
SeeG. Dumezil, 'hUritagendo-europen
a
ome Paris:Gallimard,949).
81H.
Diels,
ed. W.
Kranz,
Die
Fragmente
er
Vorsokratiker,
th
ed.
(Berlin:
Wiedmannsche
Verlagsbuchhandlung,951), Vol.
I,
p.
368,
Empedocles
141.
Diels's
fragments
re
hereafter
cited
y
uthors'
ames,
ith
etters
nd
numbers.
a
See
H.
Frankfort,
ylinder
eals
(London:
The
Macmillan
ompany,
939),
p.
308.
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P.
CONGER
older
han
he
extant
exts,
ere
f
some nfluence
n
Greekmedicine.33
As
to
other
ranches
f
cience,
t
appears
hat
n ancient
ndia,
much
more
thannGreece,osmologyas an accessoryfreligiousituals.We shall
see
that
few
deas,
ike
hose
f
he
lementsnd
he
microcosm,
ay
ave
been
etached
nd
exported,
ut he ines
re
now
itherost
r
crossed
nd
cannot e
clearly
raced.
Whatever
ay
havebeen
hecase as
regards
reek
hilosophies,
here
is
no
doubt
f
foreign
nfluences
n
theGreek
eligion
r
religions.
t is
an
old
tradition
hat he
names or
the
Greek
gods
came
from
oreign
sources,34
nd
the
mysteries
f
Eleusis
ppear
t
this
istance
o havebeen
an
amalgam
fold cults
rom
he
north,ast,
nd
south. 3
he
Aristotelian
interpretationf thepre-Socraticsid not do justice o their eligious
interests.3
n all these ountries
he
religions
re
so
closely
elated
o the
philosophies
hat
we
eave
hem or onsideration
elow.
Also
closely
elated
o
the
philosophies
re
theworks
f the
poets.
No
Indian
r
ranian
ecular
oet
s
early
nough
r well
enough
nown o
be
of
help
o
us,
nd
most
f
he
arly oets
f
onia
nd
he
Cyclades,
lthough
they
may
well have
raveled
s
they
ang,
dd ittle
r
nothing
nusual
o
our
deas.
Above
ll
Greek
oets,
owever,
nd
whether
r not
he
was
synthetic,towershe
igure
eknow sHomer. ome fhim,t east,ppearso have
come
ither
rom
myrna
rfrom
hios,
n
or
just
off he
onian
oast.
He seems
o
have
known
ittle
f
any
egion
utside
onia,
buthe knew
in
and
other
merchandise
y
Sanskrit
ames.37
is Eastern
thiopians ay
have
been
ndians.3
n
his
poems
here
re trandslder
han
he
brilliant
Olympians;
ome
f
them eem o reach
ack
o
Indo-European
ays.
His
IOvbo-tg,
ccording
o
Cornford,
s a material
ontinuum,
live
and
divine,
identical
ith
he
primitive
ubstance
utof which
he
divinities
f
Greek
religionook hape.3 ackfindshat heHomeric ivine owersrenot
necessarilynthropomorphic
r
personal.
ear,
error, ar, trife,
rayer,
the
Graces,
umor,
nd
justice ppear
s
divinities.
he name
Zeus s
used
n several
enses,
ith
ifferent
egrees
nd
shades
f
meaning.
he
I
J.
Filliozat,
Le sommeil
t
les reves
elon
es medecinsndiens t les
physiologues
recs,
Journal
e
psychologie,
L
(1947),
338,
346.
Cf.
E.
Benveniste,'La
doctrine
m'dicale
des
indoeurop6ens,
evue
de
l'histoire
es
religions,
XXX
(1945),
5
If.
8
Herodotus,
i.
43, 49, 50;
Foucart,
p.
cit.,
.
18.
35Cf.
bid.,
Chap.
X.
8
H.
Cherniss,
Aristotle's
riticism
f
the
Pre-Socratic
hilosophy
Baltimore: Johns
Hopkins
Press,
1935),
p.
374;
W.
Jaeger,
The
Theology
of
the
Early
Greek
Philosophers
(Oxford:
Clarendonress, 947). The atter orks hereafterited sTheology.
7
Encyclopaedia
ritannica,
4th
d.,
Vol.
XII,
p.
185.
See
R. M.
Cook,
Ionia
and
Greece
in
the
Eighth
and Seventh Centuries
B.C.,
Journal
of
Hellenic
Studies,
LXVI
(1946),
86.
8
Odyssey
.
23
ff.;
Rawlinson,
ntercourse
etween
ndia
and
the
Western
World,
pp.
18
ff.
9
F. M.
Cornford,
rom
Religion
o
Philosophy
London:
E.
Arnold,
912),
pp.
x,
134.
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111
reservoir
f
divine
power
may
manifesttself
s
impersonal
Moira
or
as
personal
deities.40All this
serves
o recall the
incomplete ersonifications
of theRg Veda; there lso, nthedawnthegodsareforming.n Hinduism
to this
day
the
various
deities re
manifestations
f
the
one
Brahman,
nd
theword
Brahman,
ike
the
Greek
word
h50o-tg,
tems
rom
root
meaning
to
grow. 41
Jaeger
ays
that
n
Homer
there s
a
deep
sense of
harmony
between
man
and
nature;
ne
great
hythm
enetrates
he
moving
whole.42
Hesiod's
father as from
yme
n
Asia
Minor;
he
himselfived
n
Boeotia,
never far
from
he
sea which
framed
he
islands
and on its other side
washed the
Asian coast. His
fragments
ention he
Nile, Nineveh,
he
Scythians,
nd the
Ethiopians.43
o
one
supposes
hatHesiod's
gloomy
ut-
look reflectsnything riental;oppression nd poverty, articularlyor
peasants,
re
everywhere,
nd
may
even
suggest
ontrasts
etween
on-
temporary
nd
past
history.
numerationsnd
gradations
f
ages
of
history,
however,
re
more
significant;
esiod
has
five,
while
ndia and Iran
stop
with
our.44
As
in the
Rg
Veda
and
the
Homeric
oems,
Hesiod's
theogony
s
peopled
in
part
with
shadowy
bstractions,
any
of
them
certainly
re-Hellenic.45
His
gods
arose from he
elements 4;
e
could
see
divine
personalities
n
physical orces.47
rom
the
confused
medley
f
myth
e
broughtogetherinto
something
ike a
system
heold stories f
gods
and
goddesses,
with
theirnumerous
ffspring
nd
battles. t
is
not clear
that his
Cronus,
he
son who
rebelled
gainst
eus,
was
Chronos,
ime48;
t
is
somewhatmore
likely
hat Chronos s
Time
appears
n
the
Greek world n
the workof
Pherecydes.
ornford
etects
n
Hesiod the
conviction f a
magical
sym-
pathy
between
man and
nature49-something
hich t
about this
ime
was
being
ritualized
nd
exaggerated
n
the
Hindu
Brdhmanas,
ut no
one
supposes
hat
here
was
any
onnection.
Alongwiththepoets, omeof the tsevenages should be examined.
When
we
stop
to look at
it,
Solon's Know
thyself
tandsout
rather
strangely
gainst
he older
Greek nterestn
myths,
n
the
one
hand,
and
'
R. K.
Hack,
God in
Greek
hilosophy
o
theTime
of
Socrates
Princeton:
rinceton
ni-
versity
ress,
931),
pp.
6, 8, 10, 13,
35.
See S.
Radhakrishnan,
ndian
Philosophy,
ol.
I
(New
York:
The
Macmillan
ompany,
1922),
p.
163,
n.
1.
SW.
Jaeger,
aideia
New
York:
Oxford
niversity
ress,
945),
Vol.
,
p.
50.
*
Cook,
loc.
cit.
R.
Reitzensteinnd
H.
Schaeder,
tudien um
antiken
ynkretismus
us
Iran
und
Griechen-
land,
Studien er
Bibliothek
Warburg,
ol.
VII
(Leipzig
nd
Berlin:
Teubner,
926),
p.
65.
*
Oxford
lassical
ictionaryOxford:
Oxford
niversityress, 949), p. 670.Cornford,p. cit., . 39.
'
Jaeger,
heology,
.
12.
8
Encyclopaediaritannica,
1th
d.
(1910),
Vol.
XXIV,
p.
231;
Jaeger,
heology,
p.
68,
220,
n.
62.
'
Cornford,
p.
cit.,
.
170.
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GEORGE
P.
CONGER
the
newer nterest
n
nature,
n
the other.
s the
great
maxim o
be
under-
stood
n
the
ight
of
the
age-long
ndian
emphasis
n
the nner ife? Did
Solon,
even
f
he did
not
see
Croesus
t
Sardis,
make
contact
here
r
else-
wherewith ome
vagrant
raditionromndia?
Pherecydes,
rom
he sland
of
Syros,
was a
contemporary
f Thales and
lived
at
Athens. Like
Thales,
he is
credited
with
the view that
the
first
principle
f
everything
s
water,50
ut
to a
greater
egree
han Thales
he
is still
within
he
ge
of
myth.
n his
theogony,
ime
(Chronos),
long
with
Zas
(Zeus)
and
Chthonie
GE, Earth),
existed
lways.5
amascius
n
the
sixth
century
.D.
reports
hat
Pherecydes
made
Time
the
parent
of
fire,
earth,
nd
water;
from
uch
elements arious
gods originated
nd
were
distributedna five-chambered
orld.52
These
and other
assages
may
point
n
various
irections.
gypt,
t
least
at
a
later
date,
correlated he elements nd
the
gods. 3
The
Chsandogya
Upanisad
has a
detailed
description
f
a
five-fold
orld.54
n
Iran,
five
elementswere
thought
f as
united
n
Zarvan,
or
Time,55
lthough,
gain,
the
ranian
doctrine
may
be later.
n
Pherecydes,
oo,
the notions f
Time
are
not
consistent;
fragment
hich omesfrom
Celsus via
Origen
makes
Chronos he
eader
f
an
army
n
an
old
war
between
ods
or
titans.
At
his
wedding
with
Chthonie,
ays
Pherecydes,
eus
presents
er
with
a robewhichhe has woven. The robe s
presumably
he
phenomenal
p-
pearance
f
things.
n
the
same
fragment
here
s also
an
obscure
eference
to an
allegory
f a
winged
ak
on
which
he
embroideredobewas
hung.57
Freeman
hinks hat
Pherecydes'
ention f titans
nd the
robe shows
he
influence
f
Orphism,58
which s
traditionally
ore
or
less
associated
with
his
career.
Diels's
third
ragment
omes
from
roclus,
erhaps
thousand
ears
fter
Pherecydes;
f
t
s authentic
t
contains he
germs
f
several
octrines
hich
made laterphilosophersamous. t saysthatZeus,whenaboutto create,
changed
nto
Eros,
because
by combining
he cosmosout
of
opposites
e
brought
t nto
harmony
nd
ove,
nd
sowed
ikeness
n
all
and
unity
xtend-
ing
through
ll
things.
This
is
hardly
n
Iranian
dualism,
lthough
t
is
an
instance
f
the
widespread
octrines
oncerning
pposites
which
ppear
n
the Greek
world,
erhaps
bout
the
time
f
Zoroaster.On
the
other
hand,
'
Diels,
Pherecydes
la.
*
Ibid.,
B
1.
5
Ibid.,
A
8.
Reitzenstein
nd
Schaeder,
p.
cit.,
.
75.
Chindogya panisad
I.
2-7.
1Wilhelm
Nestle,
Griechische
Weltanschauung
n
ihrer
Bedeutung
fir
die
Gegenwart
(Stuttgart:einrich . C. Hannsmann,946), p. 81.
Diels,
B
4.
MIbid.,
B 2.
K.
Freeman,
he
Pre-Socratic
hilosophers
Cambridge:
Harvard
University
ress, 946),
pp.
39 ff.
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if
t
s
authentic,
t
shows hat ater
re-Socratics
id
notneedto look
outside
the
Greek
heritage
or
uggestions
f some of their ardinal
eachings.
Hesiod and Pherecydesre on the threshold etweenmythologynd
philosophy.
hadowy
igures
loat n their
world,
worldwhich
s as
yet
hardly nalyzed
ut
s
beginning
o
be anatomized.
And
there
s
a trace f
empirical
aution-if,
as
Diogenes
tells
us,
Pherecydes
n his
Letter
o
Thales
really
wrote hathe did not
claim
to
have arrived
t
the
truth.
It
is often
held
thatOriental
nfluences
n
Greece
re to be
seen
n
the
doctrines
nd
practices
f the
Orphics;
he usual
argument
s that
Orphism
is
so
non-Greek
hat
t
musthave come from
utside,
nd
that t
has
so
many
features
n
commonwith
Oriental
aiths
nd
cults
that
t
musthave
comefrom hatdirection.59robablytcamewell before hesixth entury
B.c.,
bringing
ts
theogonic
myths
nd
mystery
ult
nto
Greece nd
blending
with
myths
nd
mysteries
lready
here.
t
can
be
traced
back
with some
confidenceo the
forests
f
Thrace
and
from
here,
llowing
for
modifica-
tions,
astward s far s
Phrygia.
n
both
places
t was
coarse
nd
orgiastic.
The
Greeks
pparently
efined
t,
abandoning
ts
more
gruesome
eatures,
for time
retaining
ts
primitiveheogonies,
nd
always
keeping omething
of its
enthusiasms
or
unionwith
he
deity
nd
hope
of
life
after
eath.
It
appears
o
have
been
developed
y
Onomacritus
t Athens
round he
year500 andinthebroaderGreekworld ohave nfluenced
ythagoras
nSouth
Italy.
Orphism
nd
Pythagoreanism
hade into
each
other;
some
of the
refinement
fthe
former
s what
we
know
s
the
atter.
A
majorquestion nvolving
ll
these
ultures
nd
a
number f
ndividual
philosophers
oncerns
he
origin
f
the beliefs
n
reincarnation
r
metem-
psychosis.
here are
traditions,
rguments,
nd
often
dherents
or
lmost
any
theory0--so
many
that
there
s
not
as
much
support
s
one
might
expect
or he
view
that
ndia
nfluenced
reece.
Knowledge f ndia ntheGreekworld ftheperiod ppears ohavebeen
scanty
nd
faulty.
Hecateusof
Miletus
mentioned he
ndus,
he
ndi,
and
the
Gandarii.6 Herodotus
was
more
concerned
ith
he
Egyptians
nd the
Persians,
whom he
had
visited,
han with
the
Indians,
whom
he
regarded
as
living
way
to
the East
at
the
extreme
ounds
f
human
habitation,
ext
to
the
great
desert.
For
some
of his
information
bout
them
he
depended
on
what
the
Persians
aid;
he
may
also
have
used the
work
of
Scylax.
He
called ndia
the
most
populous
atrapy
f
the
Persian
mpire.
He
reported
9
On
the
resemblances,
ee S.
Radhakrishnan,
astern
eligions
nd
Western
hought Ox-
ford:Clarendonress, 939), pp. 135ff.
'For
various
pinions,
ee, e.g.,
F.
Cumont,
ux
perpetua
Paris:
P.
Geuthner,
949),
pp.
408
ff.;
.
Rohde,
Psyche
London:
Kegan
Paul,
1925),
p.
346;
Jaeger,
heology, .
84;
Cornford
n
Cambridge
ncient
istory,
ol.
V,
p.
535.
'
Rawlinson,
ntercourseetween
ndia
nd
the Western
orld,
.
19.
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GEORGE
P.
CONGER
that
omeof
the
ndians
werenomads nd
somewere
vegetarians,
hat
hey
had
a
hot
climate
nd
worecotton
arments.
ut he also
toldthe ale
about
ant-goldnd madethe famousmistakefcallingMitra goddess.62 tesias,
the
physician
o Artaxerxes
emnon,
ccompanied
im
on his
expedition
against
yrus
he
Younger
n
401.
In
his
Persica
e
presented
ome
fantastic
stories
bout
ndia,
vidently
ased
n
what hePersians old
him.
Xenophon
noted
hat
Cyrus
uled ver
ndia,
whose
king
was
verywealthy;
he
Persians
once
sentfor
he
king
o
arbitrate
dispute.
Xenophon's
mostnotable tate-
ment s that
he
Chaldean
mercenaries
ere
frequently
mployed y
ndia,63
buthiswork
s
notrenowned
or
ccuracy.
V
In
the
histories,
f not
the
history,
f
Western
philosophy
he three
Milesians ead
off.
They
come too
early
for
the
Achaemenian
mpire,
ut
belong
n
the
great ays
f
Miletus,
fter
he
Egyptian
haraoh
had allowed
the
city
to
found
Naucratis
n
the delta
as
a
commercial enter
for
the
Greeks.
t is
thus
asy
to credit he
traditionhat
Thales learned
geometry
from he
Egyptians,
ho
had
developed
heir and
measurements
s a
result
of
experiences
iththe
errant
Nile,64
lthough
hales,
as a
Greek,
would
naturally o on to moretheoretical eneralizations.
f
he predictedhe
eclipse
of
585,65
he
almost
certainly
ad
access
to
records
f
Babylonian
observations;
s a
Greek, oo,
he
wouldbe
likely
o
generalize
he
Babylonian
ideas
about numbers.
The
traditional
nterpretation
f his
teaching
bout
water calls
it
a
principle, orgetting
hat Thales is
hardly
ut of
the
age
of
myth.
n
Egypt
he
god
Rd
comes
from
Noun,66
he
primordial
abyss,
nd
the
symbol
or his
s
accompanied
y
the broken
r
wavy
ines
indicating
ater.67
n
Mesopotamia
water
s
regarded
s
primordial
nd the
gods
are descended
rom
t.68
ither
r
both
of
these
myths
ould
have
been
familiaro Thales,and served etter han thelodestoneo account orhis
dictum
hat ll
things
re
full of
gods.
Such
myths,
owever,
re
not
con-
fined
o these
neighbors
f
Miletus.
The
awe-fillingymnRg
Veda
X.
129
asks whether
t
the
beginning
f
things,
when
the
gods
did
not
yet
xist,
all
was
deep
unfathomable ater.
Several
passages
n
the
Upanisads
on-
tinue he
tradition.69
he Iliad and
the Book of
Genesis
arry
races
f
the
2
Herodotus,
.
131;
iii.
94-106.
'
Xenophon,
Cyropaedia
.
1.
4;
ii.
4.
8;
iii. 2.
25-27;
viii.
6.
21.
8
Herodotus,
i.
109.
SIbid.,
i.
74.
Faure, op. cit.,pp. 62, 146.
a
E.
Amblineau,
La
cosmogonie
de
Thales
et
les doctrines
e
'1gypte,
Revue
de
l'histoire
des
religions,
XII
(1910)
:
18,
23.
'
See
Encyclopaedia
ritannica,
4th
ed.,
Vol.
II,
pp.
860
ff.
Brhad4ranyakapanisad
. v.
1;
Chdndogya panisad
II.
x.
1; Aitareya panisad
.
i.
3;
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EARLY
GREEK PHILOSOPHIES?
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view,70 nd,
as we
said,
t is ascribed
o Thales'
contemporaryherecydes.
All
this
makes
any theory
f
specific
erivation
rbitrary;
hales'
theory
aboutprimordial ater ouldhavecome,notmerely romheMeander, ut
from
he
Nile,
the
Euphrates,
r even he ndus.
Anaximander
ived
in
the sixth
century,
he
century
n
which
some
authorities ate Zoroaster.
n
the
fragments
cosmic
duality
f
opposites
becomesmore
pronounced
han n
Pherecydes,
ut t is
hardly
oroastrian;
according
o
Anaximander,
oth
members
re
punished
nd
give
atisfaction,
and
the
characteristics
ndicated
hot
and
cold,
moist
nd
dry)
are not the
Zoroastrian
ight
and
darkness.The
punishment
nd
satisfaction
roceed
according
o
the
decree
of
Time,
but
we
cannotbe sure
that
the
Iranian
doctrinefZarvangoesback o thedays fZoroaster.t would eem, owever,
that
a
suggestion
f
duality
oming
from omewhere
as
beginning
o
be
developed
with
Greek
variations
n
the theme. Influence oes
not
mean
mere
mitation. he
Greeks,
o
be
Greeks,
must
have
shown
originality,
but
no
one but
n
extremisteeds
o
suppose
hat
n
their
world,
articularly
at
Miletus,
hey
were
ntirelyriginal.
Curiously
enough,
in
Anaximander's
ragments
here seems to
be
closer
resemblance
o
Indian than to
Iranian
thought.
The
unlimited -
which
is
not
to be thought f as an undifferentiatedass,or as mere
emptiness,
ut
as
a matrix f
everything
is
eternal
nd
ageless
and
encompasses
rTEPLE'XEi,
A
11)
all
the
worlds.
n
the
Rg
Veda,
among
many
other
views,
we
findthat
Aditi,
the
unbounded,
nlimited,
s
the
matrixfrom
which
all
the
gods
and all
the
world
originate.
In
the
Chandogya
Upanisad,
Jana regards
tman s
akafa,
he
boundless
ky,
ut
there re several
lternative
iews,
ncluding
hose
hat
Atman
s
water,
ind,
andearth.7
f,
s
Jaeger
maintains,
naximander
poke
f
his
first
rinciple
as
divine, 73
he
resemblanceo Indian
thought
s
still
closer.
In other ragmentsheres theunmistakablereek haracteristic,lmost
or
actually
he
beginning
f
that
pen-eyed
bservation
f
nature
which
ave
theMilesians
he
name
of
naturalists.
In
the
case
of
Anaximenes,
ragment
2
calls
for
special
attention-
Just
s
our soul
which
s air
holdsus
together
crvyKparTEE),
o
breath
nd
air
encompass
he whole
world.
Breath
nd
wind
(Vdyu),
if
not
air,
have
Katha
Upanisad
IV.
6. R.
E.
Hume,
The
Thirteen
Principal
Upanishads (Oxford:
Oxford
University
ress,
1921),
pp.
151, 256, 294,
354.
The
Upanisads
from
his
volume
are
hereafter
cited
by
names
and textual
references.
70o
liad
XIV.
201,
246;
Genesis
1:
2.
71Rg
Veda
I.
89. 10.
Radhakrishnan,
ndian
Philosophy,
Vol.
I,
p.
82,
says
thatAditi
corre-
sponds
to
Anaximander's
nfinite.
72
Chandogya
V. xiv.
1;
xvi.
1;
xvii.
1.
3
Jaeger,
heology,
p.
71.
A
close
reading
of
Aristotle,
hysica,
203b
13
ff.,
may
not
support
this
nterpretation.
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GEORGE P.
CONGER
been
associated n Indian
thought
ver
since
the
Purusa
Sikta.74
The
Chandogya
panisad
has,
among
ts other
hypotheses,
he
view that
Atman
is
wind;
another
f
its
passages compares
he
macrocosmic
ind
to
the
microcosmic
reath.75
n the
Kausitaki
Upanisad
the cosmic
powers
are
declared
o
be
revertible
nto
wind,
and
an
individual's
owers
revertible
into
breath. 76
naximenes
may
also
be
set
in
striking
arallel
with the
Brhadaranyaka panisad- As
all
the
spokes
re
held
together
n
the hub
and
felly
f
a
wheel,
o in this
oul
all
things
..
all
breathing
hings
re
held
together.
f
the Greek
rvyKparEZ
s
translated
constrains,
nother
parallel
appears:
n
the
Upanisad
he
thread
y
which
ll
things,
ncluding
the
limbs
of
a
body,
re tied
together
s
said
to
be
wind,
which
n
Hindu
fashionsidentifiedith he InnerController. 77ubendeclareshat efore
the time
of
Anaximenes evenmen
in India
had
expressed
n
idea similar
to
that
f
the
fragment.7
We
must not
expect
too
much
clarity
r
consistency
rom
hese
stray
fragments;
oo
many
pieces
of
the
picture
uzzle
are
lost.
On
the other
hand,
we
mustnot
make
of Miletus ither cultural sland
or
a
miracle.
Some
of the
pieces
begin
o
ndicate
roader
orizons.
It
is
customary
o
consider
ythagoras
fter he
Milesians
and before
Heraclitus,
lthough
ncertaintiesbout
the
sources, ates,
nd content
f
the Pythagoreaneachings-reminiscentf some of the uncertaintiesn
Indian
philosophy--make
ny placement pen
to some
question.
t is
best
not to
attempt
o
distinguish
he so-called
eachings
f
Pythagoras
rom
those
of
the
Pythagoreans.
We assume
hat
here
was a
long
development
from
early
stages
n
South
Italy
under
Orphic
nfluence,
hrough
more
rational nd
theoretical
nterests,
specially
ith
Philolaus
nd other
ythag-
oreans f
Plato's
ime,
o
Plato and ater
writers.
Pythagoras
f
Samos
apparently
went
to
Crotona
and,
influenced
y
Orphism here, ounded communityhich, s mighthavebeenexpected
of
Greeks,
ecamemore nterested
han were the
myth-lovingrphics
n
problems
f
government,
athematics,
nd
philosophy.
The
community
influenced
mpedocles
f
Agrigentum
nd
perhaps
Parmenides
f Elea.
After
he
colony
was driven
rom
Crotona
because
of too much nterestn
government,
he uccessors
n
Greece
eveloped
ther
nterests,
oncentrating
on
theoretical
roblems,
eveloping
heir
amous
heories
f
numbers,
nd
on
the
religious
ide more
or less
amalgamating
ith the
local
mysteries.
Towardthe end
of
the
fifth
entury
heir
eachings
ttracted
hilolaus nd
Plato.
1Rg
Veda
X.
90.
13.
'
Chbidogya
V. iii.
1-3.
6
Kasqitaki
I.
12-13.
77
Brhaddranyaka
I.
v.
15;
III.
vii.
1-3.
8s
W.
Ruben,
ie
Philosophie
er
Upanishaden
Bern:
A
Francke,
947),
p.
168.
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DID
INDIA INFLUENCE
EARLY GREEK PHILOSOPHIES?
117
Orphism
nd
Pythagoreanism
re
intertwined;
y
and
large,
however,
Orphism
s a
myth-loving
eligion,
while
Pythagoreanism
s a
religious
metaphysics.here s good room forthe thesis hatwhatever rientalism
is
found
mong
the
Pythagoreans
s second-hand
nd has come from he
Orphic
ide.
This
may
account orthe doctrine f
metempsychosis,
aid
to
have
been
taught
y
Pythagoras,
ithout
making
him
ourney
o India
to
get
it.
The
theory
f the five
lements,
ttributed
o
Philolaus,
ould
have
been
an
adaptation
rom
herecydes.
The
Pythagoreans
ad
a list
of
ten
pairs
of
cosmological
pposites,
ut
light
and
darkness,
which
might uggest
oroastrian
nfluence,
s
only
one of the
ten
pairs,
he
eighth
n
the
ist. 7
This is a marked eduction
n
rank, utwe mustnotoverlookhefact hathere, lso,opposition assome-
how become
mportant.
he
Pythagoreans
mphasized
pposites
n
their
an-
tastic
speculations
bout
odd and even
numbers,
he limited
nd the
unlimited,
nd
the
indeterminate
yad. 80
Plato's
doctrine f
deas,
lab-
orated
under
Pythagorean
nfluence,
howsthat n his
timethe
process
f
abstraction
as used
without
eing
understood.
pparently
t was not
under-
stood
by
the
Pythagoreans
ither,
nd
they
were tillmore t sea in
dealing
with
numbers
which,
s classes
of
classes,
nvolve
bstractions
f a
second
or
higher
rder.
Attempts
o
connect
he
Pythagorean
heories
bout
num-
berswith he
Sdrihkhya
numerationf theconstituentsfthe worldreflect
a
confusion,
ne
might
ay,
between ardinal
nd
ordinal
numbers. uch
attempts
re
farfetched--or,ather,
heir ata
could
hardly
ave
beenfetched
so far.
FromHeraclitus
many
raditions
ave been
recovered
nd
judgedworthy
to
be
called
fragments.
is
dates
re
roughly
rom
40
to
475;
he lived at
Ephesus,
n thePersian
mpire,
nd ived
hrough
he
onian
revolt,
n
which
neighboring
iletus
was
ruthlesslyestroyed.
t has
sometimes
een
held
thathisdescriptionf theprimaryealitys fire ndhisemphasisnopposi-
tion
may
have been due
to
Persian
nfluences,
ut
the
differences
re
so
great
hat
ny
transmission
ould
hardly
ave
been more han
suggestion.
His oft-noted
bscurity
eminds
ne
of the
ztras
f
the
ix
Hindu
systems;
one
could wish for
Heraclitus similar
ullness
nd
continuity
mong
the
commentators.eminiscentf
ndia,
oo,
s his
method;
e
sought
n
himself
and
found he oul
very
eep. 8
ike
a
Greek,
owever,
e
honors
most
hose
things
whichhe can learn
by
sight
nd
hearing,
lthough
he
is
cautiously
critical
f
both.82
7
See
Freeman,
p.
cit.,
p.
248.
s
Ibid.,
pp.
222,
230; Plato,
hilebus
5d,26d;
Aristotle,
etaphysica
081a
15,
1085b7.
'
Diels,
Heraclitus
45,
101.
82
Ibid.,
B
46,
55, 101a,
107.
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GEORGE P.
CONGER
We
can
make
the
fragments
onsistent
nlyby
assuming
hat he
magery
shifts,
s
it
oftendoes
in
Indian
texts.
First,
here
s the fact
of
change,universal
lux;
Heraclituswas a
younger
ontemporary
f
Buddha,
who
taught
hat ll
the
constituents
f
being
re
transitory.83
nto
the amerivers
we
step
and do
not
step;
n
this
respect,
nd
in
a
way,
then,
we
are,
and
are
not.84
o,
any
one
tendency
r
property
ntails
ts
opposite.Opposition
is
characteristic
nd essential.
But for ll the
opposition
here s a
reciprocal
change, harmony,
n
encompassing nity;
he universe
lways
was,
and
is,
and
ever
hall
be,
an
ever-living
ire,
n which
here re fixedmeasures
kindling
nd
dying
ut.85
The chief xpressionf thisencompassingnitys thelogos. It is not
the
only
xpression,
owever,
nd the
word
s
used
n
different
enses.
Some-
times
t s the
general
haracteristic
r
property
f
things,ccording
o
which
everythingappens-in
the
non-psychological
ense,
he reason
hings
re
as
they
re-although
it
is
not
recognized
y
men.86
Again,
t is the
sense
or
reasonableness
ommon o
all
men,
by
which ll
ought
o
live.87
Once
it
seems
o be a
superficial
eature
r
effect
f currentvents- a
foolish
man
is
wont
o
be
in a flutter
t
every
ogos. 88
And
once
t
marks
he
character
of the
developing
r
growing
oul.8
here
s no
suggestion,
s
in
Babylonian
and
Egyptian
raditions,hatthe word s the
expression
r command f
a
divinity,
nd
no
echo
of the Vedic
voice
(vac). o
Any
connection
f
the
ogos
of
B
72
with
human
peech
f
B
73
is
hardly
ignificant.
In several
fragments
he
generalregulation
f the world
s indicated
y
words other
than
X6yo
-we
find
v/ol
,
,r
pa,
yvc/t4Pv,
and the
still
more
puzzling
-roov
or
a-
o-o6v.91
In B 41
the
latter
xpression
s often ranslateds
wisdom
nd inter-
preted
s
implying
uman
understanding,
ut
n B 112 thewordfor
human
wisdoms o-orl', andB 32 indicateshat
-o o-o0o'v
s more hanhuman,
cosmic
rinciple
willing
nd
unwilling
o
be
called
Zeus -i.e.,
sometimes
interpretable
n
personal
nd
again
in
impersonal
erms.
108 indicates
that
lthough
men
do
not understand
-ro46v
t is
a
thing
part.
B
78
de-
clares
that
the
human ethos
does
not
have
yva4at
but
that
the divine
does.
Can
T'
croo'dv
n
B
41,
then,
efer
ot
to human
wisdom,
ut to a
'
See
H.
C.
Warren,
uddhism
n
Translations
Cambridge:
Harvard
University,
896),
p.
109.
8
B
49a.
85
B
8, 30, 76,
111,
126.
S
B
1,
72.
wB
2. B 87. B 115.'
Cf.
W. F.
Albright,
rom
heStone
Age
to
Christianity
Baltimore:
ohns opkins
ress,
1940),
pp.
145
ff.;
J.
H.
Breasted,
he
Dawn
of
Conscience
New
York: Charles
cribner's
Sons,
933),
p.
37;
R.g
Veda
X.
125.
*
B
30, 41, 108,
114.
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INFLUENCE
EARLY GREEK PHILOSOPHIES?
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cosmic
rinciple
which
s
one?
The moreusual
nterpretation
ould
accom-
modate he
nfinitive,
to
know,
but,
f
there
s
no other
xplanation, er-
hapsthequotation,uite ikelymisunderstood,as garbledbyDiogenes.92
At all
events,
he
One Wise
cosmic
principle
ould
hardly
have
been
an
unfamiliar
oncept
n
the
empire
whichvenerated
hura
Mazda,
the
Wise
Lord,
nd
7-ob
o-o4v,
egarded
s
cosmic
nd
transcendent,
ow
personal
and now
impersonal,
s
surprisingly
imilar
o the
Hindu
Brahman,
with
its
quasi-personal
ttributes.
The
word
lwv in B
52
is sometimes
eld
to
reflectn
Orphic
nfluence,
but t
can be
translated
erely
s
an
age
and set
n
a
Heraclitean
ontrast
with
child--as
f
he had
said
that
thousand
ears
re a
day.
Xenophanes f Colophon,nearEphesusand Miletus, ivedat the time
of
the Persian
mpire,
ut
s
said to
have
eft
Asia
because
f
hostility
o
it.
His
denial of
anthropomorphic
olytheism
eads him
not
so
much to a
monotheism
s
to
a monism.
here s
one
God,
but the
one
God
is
not
ike
mortals
n
form
8it~/a)
or
thought.
od sees as a
whole,
hinks