MINUTES OF THE CEMA ENGINEERING CONFERENCE IDLER COMMITTEE MEETING
Tuesday, June 27, 2017
1. The Idler Committee meeting convened at 8:42 am lead by Jarrod Felton, Superior Industries (Chair Conveyor Idler Committee).
2. Attendance sheets were sent around the room and each person in attendance introduced themselves and what company they represented. There were 45 people in attendance. See attached attendance rosters.
3. Agenda was approved with addition of adding to the agenda to approve the agenda. Prior
Conveyor Idler Committee meeting minutes from June 21, 2016 were discussed and approved. Comments to correct item 6 of the Fall 2016 meeting minutes dated Tuesday, September 20, 2016 were discussed. It was decided to correct item 6 of these meeting minutes from “Phil added draft to the current belt book.” to “Phil will add draft to the next edition of the Belt Conveyors for Bulk Materials book”.
4. Old Business
a. CEMA G Idler dimensions: Review simplified dimensional survey results. The CEMA G Idler dimensional survey was sent out prior to this meeting and responses were received from 4 companies. One response looked to be an error as the dimension for the overall length of the trougher C MAX was the same for all belt widths in the survey response. Discussion was started on what to do next. This discussion began with a short review on why the survey for CEMA G dimensions. Main points were the OR’s (Official Representatives) asked for emerging technologies as it was recognized that conveyor capacitates were getting larger and belt widths were getting wider. This created a need for idlers with larger capacities than the CEMA F idler. Previous years had recommended load ratings for the CEMA G idler which were approved and added to the current ANSI/CEMA Standard 502 released in 2016. A proposal was made to create a subcommittee to condense the survey information into the format of the idler standard for the fall CEMA meeting. This motion was approved with Paul Schmidgall volunteering to be the Chair of this subcommittee. Shown is a list of the volunteers for this committee. Sub-Committee: Paul Schmidgall, Superior Industries (Chair) ([email protected]); Tom Hubbert, Syntron ([email protected]); Benjamin Brewer,
Conveyor Equipment Manufacturers Association
Douglas Mfg. ([email protected]); Jim Masek, PPI ([email protected]).
b. High Speed Conveying. i. TIR survey. The latest TIR survey did not yield any results.
ii. Review of any further information from other standards. Information was presented by Jim Masek covering current standards for TIR from CEMA 502-2016, ABNT BNR 6678-2010, BIS IS 8598 2014 DRAFT, DIN 22112-2 and SANS 1313-3 2012. In general only the BIS IS 8598 2014 DRAFT changes the TIR requirement for different belt speeds. (attached) Additional aspects and topics of high speed conveying were discussed:
• Noise • Roundness of the idler roll • Dynamic Balance of the idler roll • Surface finish of the idler roll • Stiffness of the idler frame • Stiffness of the structure • Assembly tolerances and alignment of the structure and components
It was discussed to continue this investigation and identify what factors are important for high speed conveying. Question was presented if CEMA can fund a study for this. A motion was made and passed to keep a subcommittee to continue to investigate idlers on high speed conveyors. Jim Masek, PPI ([email protected]) volunteered to Chair this committee. Sub-Committee: Tom Hubbert, Syntron ([email protected]); Paul Ormsbee, Overland Conveyor ([email protected]); Paul Schmidgall, Superior Industries ([email protected]); Andrew Jennings, Conveyor Dynamics ([email protected]); Robin Stevens, ContiTech North America (robin.steven@ phoenix-cbs.com); Benjamin Brewer, Douglas Mfg. ([email protected]); Luis Estay, Bechtel Mining & Metals ([email protected]); Nick Mackenzie, Rulmeca ([email protected])
c. 5 roll troughing idlers.
i. Topic to be kept active. Discussion followed about keeping this active and most felt this was useful. Reiterated the addition to the next edition of the Belt Conveyors for Bulk Materials book. Some felt that a standard for unequal roll length idlers would be more useful in the America’s because this is seen more often than 5 roll idlers. No motion was made to create a 5 roll idler standard. It was generally agreed to keep this item on the agenda under old business.
ii. Summary of figure 5.7. It was pointed out that a summary of figure 5.7 for 5 roll idlers is in the Fall 2016 meeting minutes for the Joint Idler and Pulley meeting.
5. New Business: a. Larger headings on load rating tables in 7th edition. Motion was made and passed to
have larger headings in the next edition of the Belt Conveyors for Bulk Materials book. b. Research into localized belt indentation issues in CEMA G may prompt a minimum roll
diameter. Discussion concerning belt failure problems with load ratings CEMA G Idlers. With the current load ratings, does this lead to a minimum idler roll diameter requirement? It was recognized that this is a belt question and would need to be answered by technical members that manufacture belting. Possible someone who is a member of both CEMA and ARPM would present this to ARPM members to determine if a minimum idler roll diameter is required. Dr. Robin Steven from ContiTech North America volunteered to present this to ARPM.
c. Marketing Whitepaper. CEMA Marketing Committee has asked for each committee to submit a 1 page white paper regarding an aspect of safety. Paul Ross from Douglas Mfg volunteered to submit this paper.
d. Topic was brought up regarding confusion of CEMA standards and International standards such as DIN and ISO. CEMA standards show frame and overall dimensions and do not standardize rolls or shaft ends while International standard show roll and shaft end details and dimensions. This confusion can lead to customers using these standards to just go away from CEMA and to something they are familiar with. How does CEMA continue to be a leader in the world and is there a way to eliminate this confusion. Possible solutions to help eliminate confusion:
• Create a roll standard • Explain the differences in the standards and that most or all CEMA member
companies can manufacture rolls and shaft end details to their specification. • In addition to overall load ratings create roll only load ratings.
e. Topic was brought up regarding a research paper derating of L10 life of tapered roller
bearings. Was this a CEMA research paper? Possible done in the 1970’s?
f. Question was asked about providing running temperature for an idler bearing. What is normal and what is the maximum temperature? This lead to discussion regarding idler roll monitoring of noise and temperature. Can CEMA give any direction for these questions that end users are asking about?
6. Next meeting is June 26, 2018 at La Playa Hotel, Naples, FL
7. Motion to adjourn was made and seconded. The meeting adjourned at approximately 10:10 am.
Respectfully submitted, Jim Masek, Vice-Chair Conveyor Idler Committee
Belt
Width
A
Std BaseBelt Width
A
Std Base
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
72 81 12 9 9.375 10 72 81 76.25 77.75 78
78 87 12 11.5 9.375 10 78 87 82.25 83.75 84
84 93 12 11.5 9.375 10 84 93 88.25 89.75 9090 99 12 11.5 9.375 10 90 99 94.25 95.75 96
96 105 12 11.5 9.375 10 96 105 100.25 101.75 102
102 111 12 11.5 9.375 10 102 111 106.25 107.75 108
108 117 12 11.5 9.375 10 108 117 112.25 113.75 114114 123 12 11.5 9.375 10 114 123 118.25 119.75 120
120 129 12 11.5 9.375 10 120 129 124.25 125.75 126
Belt
Width
A
Std Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 85.5 83 83 85.5 Companies 1 2 3 4
78 87 91.5 89 89 91.5 7 7 7 7
84 93 97.5 95 95 97.5
90 99 103.5 101 101 103.5
96 105 109.5 107 107 109.5 Companies 1 2 3 4
102 111 115.5 113 113 115.5 0.75 0.75 0.75 0.75
108 117 121.5 119 119 121.5
114 123 127.5 125 125 127.5
120 129 133.5 131 131 133.5
Belt
Width
A
Std Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 14.5 12 14.5 14.5
78 87 14.5 14.5 14.5 14.5
84 93 14.5 14.5 14.5 14.5
90 99 14.5 14.5 14.5 14.5
96 105 14.5 14.5 14.5 14.5
102 111 14.5 14.5 14.5 14.5
108 117 14.5 14.5 14.5 14.5
114 123 14.5 14.5 14.5 14.5
120 129 14.5 14.5 14.5 14.5
CEMA CLASS G RETURN IDLERS
C Max.
B
D Max.
Companies
Companies
Companies
F Max.
E Drop
Bolt Size
Companies
CEMA G RETURN CONSOLIDATED
0.75
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 22.5 21.563 21.44 20
35 28.75 27.5 27.50 35
45 32.25 30.938 31.06 45
20 24 22.938 23.56 20
35 31.188 29.75 30.62 35
45 35.313 33.75 34.69 45
20 25.5 24.313 25 20
35 33.75 32.063 33.06 35
45 38.375 36.625 37.75 45
20 27 25.625 26.50 2035 36.125 34.375 35.56 35
45 41.375 39.438 40.75 45
20 28.375 27 27.94 20
35 38.625 36.625 37.94 35
45 44.375 42.5 43.75 45
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 23 22 21.88 20
35 29.125 27.875 27.81 35
45 32.625 31.313 31.31 45
20 24.438 23.375 24 20
35 31.625 30.188 30.94 35
45 35.625 34.125 34.94 45
20 26 24.75 25.44 20
35 34.125 32.5 33.38 35
45 38.75 36.938 37.94 45
20 27.438 26.125 26.94 20
35 36.5 34.75 35.88 35
45 41.75 39.75 41 45
20 28.875 27.5 28.38 20
35 39 37.063 38.31 35
45 44.75 42.625 44 45
Bolt Size
13.875
13.313
13.313
13.375
13.375
13.375
K ± 1/4
Ø 8
13.813
13.813
13.875
13.875
12.5
12.5
12.5
13
CEMA CLASS G TROUGHING IDLERS
Companies
72
84
96
108
120120
Companies
72
84
96
108
108
120
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
E Max
Ø8
96
Companies
Ø7
108
120
84
96
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
72
E Max K ± 1/4
Ø 7
Companies
72
84
12.5
12.5
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
13
13
13
13
12.38
13
13
13.06
13.06
12.88
13.50
13.50
13.56
13.56
CEMA G TROUGH A CONSOLIDATED
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 78.125 77.188 76.94 72 81 87 90.38 88.188 88
35 71.625 69.625 70 84 93 99 90.38 99.813 100
45 65.375 63.938 64.06 96 105 111 90.38 111.1875 112.50
20 90.375 88.688 89.19 108 117 123 90.38 122.6875 125
35 82.813 80.125 81.19 120 129 135 90.38 134.25 137.50
45 75.625 73.625 74.31
20 102.563 100.125 101.44
35 94 90.625 92.38 Std. Base Wide Base
45 85.875 83.188 84.62 1 2 3 4
20 114.813 111.688 113.62 72 81 87 90.38 89.5 94
35 105.25 101.25 103.62 84 93 99 90.38 101.5 106
45 96.125 92.938 94.88 96 105 111 90.38 113.5 118.50
20 127 123.25 125.88 108 117 123 90.38 125.5 131
35 116.5 111.813 114.81 120 129 135 90.38 137.5 143.50
45 106.375 102.563 105.12
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 87 12 10.5 10
84 93 99 12 10.5 10
96 105 111 12 10.5 10
108 117 123 12 10.5 10
120 129 135 12 10.5 10
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 87 15 15 14.50
84 93 99 15 15 14.50
96 105 111 15 15 14.50
108 117 123 15 15 14.50
120 129 135 15 15 14.50
Belt
Width
AD Max
Companies
Belt
Width
A
Companies
B
Std. Base
C Max
C Max
Wide Base
Companies
Companies
Belt
Width
Belt
Width
ATrough
Angle
A
H Max
Ø All
Companies
72
84
96
108
120
Belt
Width
CEMA G TROUGH A CONSOLIDATED
0.75
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 22.5 21.563 20
35 28.75 27.5 35
45 32.25 30.938 45
20 24 22.938 20
35 31.188 29.75 35
45 35.313 33.75 45
20 26.5 24.313 20
35 34.75 32.063 35
45 39.375 36.625 45
20 28 25.625 2035 37.125 34.375 35
45 42.375 39.438 45
20 29.375 27 20
35 39.625 36.625 35
45 45.375 42.5 45
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 23 22 20
35 29.125 27.875 35
45 32.625 31.313 45
20 24.438 23.375 20
35 31.625 30.188 35
45 35.625 34.125 45
20 27 24.75 20
35 35.125 32.5 35
45 39.75 36.938 45
20 28.438 26.125 20
35 37.5 34.75 35
45 42.75 39.75 45
20 29.875 27.5 20
35 40 37.063 35
45 45.75 42.625 45
14.875 13
14.875 13
Ø 8
13.813
K ± 1/4
13.813 13
13
E Max
Ø 7
E Max
108
120
84
96 14.875 13
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
Companies
72
108
120 12.5
12.514.375
14.375
12.513.313
14.375 12.5
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
Companies
72
K ± 1/4
Ø 7
12.513.313
Bolt Size
CEMA CLASS G TROUGHING IDLERS
108
120
84
96
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
72
96
108
Companies
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
Companies
Ø 8
120
72
84
84
96
CEMA G TROUGH B CONSOLIDATED
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 78.125 77.188 72 81 87 90.375 88.1875
35 71.625 69.625 84 93 99 90.375 99.8125
45 65.375 63.938 96 105 111 90.375 111.188
20 90.375 88.688 108 117 123 90.375 122.688
35 82.813 80.125 120 129 135 90.375 134.25
45 75.625 73.625
20 102.563 100.125
35 94 90.625 Std. Base Wide Base
45 85.875 83.1875 1 2 3 4
20 114.813 111.688 72 81 87 90.375 89.5
35 105.25 101.25 84 93 99 90.375 101.5
45 96.125 92.9375 96 105 111 90.375 113.5
20 127 123.25 108 117 123 90.375 125.5
35 116.5 111.813 120 129 135 90.375 137.5
45 106.375 102.563
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 87 12 10.5
84 93 99 12 10.5
96 105 111 12 10.5
108 117 123 12 10.5
120 129 135 12 10.5
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 87 15 15
84 93 99 15 15
96 105 111 15 15
108 117 123 15 15
120 129 135 15 15
Companies
Companies
B
Belt
Width
AD Max
Belt
Width
A C Max
Wide Base
Companies
Belt
Width
A
Belt
Width
A
Companies
C Max
108
120
84
96
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
Companies
72
H Max
Ø All Std. Base
CEMA G TROUGH B CONSOLIDATED
0.75
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 22 21.5625 20
35 28.25 27.5 35
45 31.75 30.9375 45
20 23.5 22.9375 20
35 30.688 29.75 35
45 34.813 33.75 45
20 25.938 24.3125 20
35 34.188 32.0625 35
45 38.813 36.625 45
20 27.438 25.625 20
35 36.563 34.375 35
45 41.813 39.4375 45
20 28.813 27 20
35 39.063 36.625 35
45 44.813 42.5 45
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 22.5 22 20
35 28.625 27.875 35
45 32.125 31.313 45
20 23.938 23.375 20
35 31.125 30.188 35
45 35.125 34.125 45
20 26.438 24.75 20
35 34.563 32.5 35
45 39.188 36.938 45
120 13.813 12.5
96 14.313 13
84 13.313 13
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
K ± 1/4
Ø 8
Companies
72 13.313 13
108 13.813 12.5
96 13.813 12.5
84 12.813 12.5
E Max
Ø 8
Companies
72
84
96
84
96
108
120
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
Bolt
Size
CEMA CLASS G TROUGHING IDLERS
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
E Max
Ø 7
Companies
72
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
K ± 1/4
Ø 7
Companies
72 12.813 12.5
CEMA G TROUGH C CONSOLIDATED
20 27.876 26.125 20
35 36.938 34.75 35
45 42.188 39.75 45
20 29.313 27.5 20
35 39.438 37.063 35
45 45.188 42.625 45
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 78.125 77.188 72 81 87 90.375 88.188
35 71.625 69.625 84 93 99 90.375 99.813
45 65.375 63.938 96 105 111 90.375 111.188
20 90.375 88.688 108 117 123 90.375 122.688
35 82.813 80.125 120 129 135 90.375 134.25
45 75.625 73.625
20 102.563 100.125
35 94 90.625 Std. Base Wide Base
45 85.875 83.188 1 2 3 4
20 114.813 111.688 72 81 87 90.375 89.5
35 105.25 101.25 84 93 99 90.375 101.5
45 92.125 92.938 96 105 111 90.375 113.5
20 127 123.25 108 117 123 90.375 125.5
35 116.5 111.813 120 129 135 90.375 137.5
45 106.375 102.563
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 87 12 10.5
84 93 99 12 10.5
96 105 111 12 10.5
108 117 123 12 10.5
120 129 135 12 10.5
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 87 15 15
84 93 99 15 15
96 105 111 15 15
108 117 123 15 15
120 129 135 15 15
Companies
Companies
Belt
Width
AB
Companies
Belt
Width
AD Max
Belt
Width
A C Max
Std. Base
Companies
Belt
Width
A C Max
Wide Base
120 14.313 13
108 14.313 13
Companies
72
84
96
108
120
108
120
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
H Max
Ø All
CEMA G TROUGH C CONSOLIDATED
0.75
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 22.125 21.563 20
35 27.625 27.5 35
45 31 30.938 45
20 23 22.938 20
35 29.438 29.75 35
45 33.313 33.75 45
20 24.875 24.313 20
35 32.25 32.063 3545 36.625 36.625 45
20 26.188 25.625 20
35 34.5 34.375 35
45 39.5 39.438 45
20 27.563 27 20
35 37.25 36.625 35
45 42.313 42.5 45
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 22.563 22 20
35 28.063 27.875 35
45 31.375 31.313 45
20 23.313 23.375 20
35 30.375 30.188 35
45 34.188 34.125 45
20 25.313 24.75 20
35 32.625 32.5 35
45 37 36.938 45
20 26.688 26.125 20
35 34.938 34.75 35
45 39.813 39.75 45
20 28.063 27.5 20
35 36.813 37.063 35
45 42.688 42.625 45
Bolt Size
Companies Companies
72 72 13.375
CEMA CLASS G TROUGHING IDLERS
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
E Max Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
K ± 1/4
Ø 7 Ø 7
96 96 13.375 12.5
84 84 13.375 12.5
12.5
108 108 13.375 12.5
120 120 13.375 12.5
Companies Companies
72 72 13.875
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
E Max Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
K ± 1/4
Ø 8 Ø 8
96 96 13.875 13
84 84 13.875 13
13
108 108 13.875 13
120 120 13.875 13
CEMA G TROUGH D CONSOLIDATED
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
20 73 77.188 72 81 87 82.5 88.188
35 67 69.625 84 93 99 94.5 99.813
45 61.5 63.938 96 105 111 106.5 111.188
20 84.5 88.688 108 117 123 118.5 122.688
35 77.75 80.125 120 129 135 130.5 134.25
45 71.25 73.625
20 96 100.125
35 88.25 90.625 Std. Base Wide Base
45 81 83.188 1 2 3 4
20 107.5 111.688 72 81 87 88.5 89.5
35 98.75 101.25 84 93 99 100.5 101.5
45 90.5 92.938 96 105 111 112.5 113.5
20 119 123.25 108 117 123 124.5 125.5
35 109.5 111.813 120 129 135 136.5 137.5
45 100.25 102.563
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 87 11.5 10.5
84 93 99 11.5 10.5
96 105 111 11.5 10.5
108 117 123 11.5 10.5
120 129 135 11.5 10.5
Std. Base Wide Base
1 2 3 4
72 81 87 15 15
84 93 99 15 15
96 105 111 15 15
108 117 123 15 15
120 129 135 15 15
C Max
Ø All Std. Base
Companies Companies
72
84
96Belt
Width
A
Belt
Width
Trough
Angle
H Max Belt
Width
A
Companies
Belt
Width
AD Max
Companies
C Max
Wide Base
Companies
108
120
Belt
Width
AB
CEMA G TROUGH D CONSOLIDATED
CEMAStandard 502-2016
Allowable Steel Roll Run Out
Roll Length (<= 500 RPM)
Diameter Diameter
≤ 5 in (127mm) >5 in (127mm)
inches mm inches mm inches mm
≤21 ≤533 0.032 0.8 0.036 0.9
>21 to 36 >533 to 914 0.036 0.9 0.042 1.1
>36 to 55 >914 to 1397 0.055 1.4 0.065 1.7>55 to 98 >1397 to 2489 0.078 2.0 0.095 2.4
SampleLot Size for Acceptance Modified fromSize Inpection Number ANSI/ASQ Z1.4-2008
26-50 8 0 General Inspection Level II51-90 13 1 Normal Inspection Plan
91-150 20 1 AQL=2.5151-280 32 2 Note: Other samplin sizes281-500 50 3 may be used if so agreed
500-1200 80 5 upon.
CEMA BELT SCALE IDLER STANDARD(1) Roll run-out, mounted 0.015 TIR maximum (all rolls).
ABNTABNT BNR 6678 - 2010
8.5.1 The total deviation (in absolute value) presented by the roll
when turning 360 ° and measured with a dial indicator should not
exceed the values given in Table 35 for rolls up to 400 mm
(15.748 inch) in length. For lengths greater than 400 mm
(15.748 inch) rolls, admits there was an increase of 0.1 mm
(0.004 inch) for each additional 250 mm (9.843 inch) in length.
The measurement should be made as shown in Figure 20.
ø Roll Steel Rubber ø Roll Steel Rubber(mm) (mm) (mm) (inch) (inch) (inch)
63 0.6 - 2.48 0.024 -75 0.6 - 2.95 0.024 -
100 0.7 1.5 3.94 0.028 0.059127 0.9 1.9 5.00 0.035 0.075152 1.1 2.3 5.98 0.043 0.091165 1.1 2.5 6.50 0.043 0.098178 1.3 2.7 7.01 0.051 0.106194 - 2.9 7.64 - 0.114203 1.3 2.9 7.99 0.051 0.114219 1.4 3.3 8.62 0.055 0.130
Note: Other values can be set by agreement between user and manufacturer.
Lot Sample Acceptance RejectionSize Size Number Number
n = Ac = Re =2 - 8 2 0 1
9 - 15 3 0 116 - 25 5 0 1 26 - 90 13 1 291 - 150 20 2 3
151 - 280 32 3 4281 - 500 50 5 6
501 - 1,200 80 7 81,200 - 3,200 125 10 11
3,201 - 10,000 200 14 15
Note 1, This is a sampling plan by regular simple attributes, level II,
NOA = 4 according to ABNT NBR 5426
Note 2, Ac = greater number of defective parts in the sample that
allows acceptance of the lot.Note 3, Re = fewer defective parts in the sample cause the
rejection of the lot.
BIS ISStandard 8598 2014 DRAFT
Table 9
Belt Speed - v (mtr/sec)--> ≤ 3 3 > v ≤ 4 4 > v ≤ 5
Roller length - l (mm) Runout in mm
≥ 750 1.4 1.0 0.8
750 > l ≤ 1200 1.6 1.2 1.0
< 1200 1.8 1.4 1.2
Run-out - The idler roller diameter, measured by a dial test indicator at anypoint along its length when rotated on its own bearing shall not exceed the total indicator reading in respect to belt speed as indicated in Table 9
Table 9Belt Speed - v (feet/min)--> ≤ 591 591 > v ≤ 787 787 > v ≤ 984
Roller length - l (inch) Runout in inch≥ 29.53 0.055 0.039 0.031
29.53 > l ≤ 47.24 0.063 0.047 0.039< 47.24 0.071 0.055 0.047
BIS ISStandard 8598 1987Run-out -- The idler outside diameter, measured by a dial test indicator at any pointalong its length when rotated on its own bearings, shall not exceed the total indicator reading (TIR) of 1.6 mm (0.063 Inch) for idler lengths below 1350 mm (53.15 inch) and 2 mm (0.079 inch) for idler lengths of 1350 mm (53.15 inch) and above.
DINStandard 22112-2
Concentricity Tolerance (mm)
Roll diameter Roll diameter
Roll Length d ≤ 133 d > 133 d ≤ 5.24" d > 5.24"
upto 530 0.5 0.6 0.02" 0.024"
530 upto 900 0.7 0.9 0.028" 0.035"
900 upto 1400 1.3 1.6 0.051" 0.063"
At least 90% of a supply shall be within the stated tolerance
range.Overshoots of up to 20% are permissable for 10% of idlers.
Concentricity Tolerance (mm)Roll diameter
Roll Length d ≤ 133 d > 13390% 10% 90% 10%
upto 530 0.5 0.6 0.6 0.72530 upto 900 0.7 0.84 0.9 1.08900 upto 1400 1.3 1.56 1.6 1.92
At least 90% of a supply shall be within the stated tolerance range.Overshoots of up to 20% are permissable for 10% of idlers.
Concentricity Tolerance (in)Roll diameter
Roll Length d ≤ 5.236 d > 5.23690% 10% 90% 10%
upto 20.866 0.020 0.024 0.024 0.02820.866 upto 35.433 0.028 0.033 0.035 0.04335.433 upto 55.118 0.051 0.061 0.063 0.076
At least 90% of a supply shall be within the stated tolerance range.Overshoots of up to 20% are permissable for 10% of idlers.
SANSStandard 1313-3; 2012
TIR (mm)
Table 10 Roll diameter Roll diameter
Roll Length d ≤ 133 d > 133 d ≤ 5.24" d > 5.24"
≤ 570 0.5 0.7 0.02" 0.028"
570 ≤ 994 0.7 0.9 0.028" 0.035"
994 ≤ 1378 1.3 1.6 0.051" 0.063"
1378 ≤ 2518 1.9 2.3 0.075" 0.091"
Steel Rolls:When a metallic or non-metallic roll with a solid liner is tested in accordance with 7.5, the peripheral run-out shall not exceed the values given below.a) When measured within 25 mm of the end face of the roll: 0.5 mm (0.020")b) When measured at any other point across the face: see table 10.
Covered rolls (rubber-lagged rolls)
When a covered roll (rubber-lagged roll) istested in accordance with 7.5, the peripheral run-out, measured within 25 mm of the end face of the roll, shall not exceed 0.5 mm.
When a covered roll (rubber-lagged roll) istested in accordance with 7.5, the peripheral run-out, measured at any point other than within 25 mm from the end of the roller, shall not exceed the values give in table 10 plus a tolerance(on thickness of the covering (lagging) material), not exceeding0.5 mm. (see SANS 1313-1).