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DAN QUAYLE - LESTER ROSEN - BOB GUTTMAN

May 13, 1982

I drop in early in the morning to see about the markup Dan said

might come today. It isn't going to be held. Lester tells me that Dan is

going to meet at the White House today. I agree to stop back later and

see what happened.

I stop back about 6:00 and Lester tells me there have been 2 meetings

today. This morning Jim Baker, Stockman, Moran COMB), and Duberstein met with

Dan, Hatch, and Paul Hawkins, Donovan and Angresani. Then there was a

second meeting with Hatch, Hawkins, Quayle, their staffs and Angresani and

someone else.

As we stood there talking about "some movement" in the first meeting,

Bob comes in and says "I think we've got an agreement. We'll have to see how

it goes down with the Democrats ... I think if Dan gets a hold of Kennedy

right now that will help a lot. If Hatch gets to Kennedy first, he'll drive

him right out."

They agreed to 70-30 distribution of training and support services.

The summer employment is outside that allocation. No prohibition vs. wages.

Dan comes in and Bob suggests he call Kennedy. Dan says "Stockman was

the one who is touch on this. I'm going to call him, tell him we've got a

deal and not to throw a monkey wrench into it."

Theother thing Dan said was "I've got to get stafford's proxy. I've

talked to him about it once already."

There's quite a bit of drafting yet to be done. Angresani wants to

do it. Bob is afraid of that and will draft some language this evening.

He'll meet with him tomorrow, to draft a compromise. So that's a hurdle, still.

Bob anticipates two major votes at markup. Metz will rpopose a diff. summer

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employment. Dan will offer the first amendment and Metz will have to offer

amendment. So 8-8 will kill Metz. and they think they have 8-8. Then, on

the new 70-30 agreement, they will need 9 votes because they will be changing

the bill. They worry about Weicker, then. Or, they may lose that and have

to do it on the floor. Bob is vague about what the Democrats will do.

Lester said Jim Baker was the one who pushed for a bill. Bob said "The

legislative people in the White House made it clear they wanted a bill. Stock­

man was the one who struck on it. After all it's hard to find 3B to save

around here. Baker told the Labor Department to move toward a bill. Donovan

and Angresani had to be given some support. After all they had been running

around saying the bill ought to be vetoed."

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