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The sole responsibility for the content of this publication etc.lies with the authors. It does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the European Union. Neither the EACI nor the European Commission are responsible for any use that may be made of the information contained therein.
Deliverable 2.2
Reports on Regional workshops
September 2012
Philippe Dumas, Luca Angelino / EGEC- European Geothermal Energy Council
The sole responsibility for the content of this publication etc.lies with the authors. It does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the European Union. Neither the EACI nor the European Commission are responsible for any use that may be made of the information
contained therein.
Table of Contents
Introduction ............................................................................................... 3 1. Report Workshop in London, UK – 26/09/2011 .................................. 4 2. Report Workshop in Valencia, Spain – 10/11/2011 ............................ 7 3. Report Workshop in Milan, Italy – 5/12/2011 ................................... 10 4. Report Workshop in Athens, Greece – 20/12/2011 .......................... 14 5. Report Workshop in Utrecht, Netherlands – 24/1/2012 .................. 16 6. Report Workshop in Offenburg, Germany – 29/ 2 /2012 ................. 23 7. Report Workshop in Vilnius, Lithuania – 22/ 3 /2012 ....................... 26 Conclusion ................................................................................................ 29
Introduction
The first part of the GEOELEC project was dedicated to present the available geological information in the different Member States. The compilation of relevant data (temperature, basin and aquifer structures, structural framework) required exchange and transfer of data and knowledge resident at many different geological surveys, academic institutions and knowledge institutes in Europe.
This was accomplished through:
- Critical review of bibliographic compilation from the geological surveys and other authorities in charge of delivering the exploration permits for the underground; from the oil and gas companies public reports; from direct contact with oil and gas companies.
- 7 regional workshops: Organisation of data compilation workshops during the first 10 months of the project, in order to mobilise data in all European countries.
Location Date Countries covered
London, UK 26 September 2011 United Kingdom, Ireland, Iceland
Valencia, Spain 10 November 2011 Spain, Portugal
Milan, Italy 5 December 2011 Italy, France, Slovenia,
Vilnius, Lithuania 22 March 2012 Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Sweden, Ukraine
This document gathers the reports of the workshops, including the list of participants. All presentations for the workshops are available at the following link: http://www.geoelec.eu/?page_id=815 The conclusion of this document contains the feedback analysis of the workshops.
It should be noted that Coordinator-EGEC and WP2 leader-TNO attended all workshops to coordinate working method and deliverables. Other partners attended 3 of these meetings to share knowledge and to learn from each other.
1. Report Workshop in London, UK – 26/09/2011
Workshop United Kingdom / Ireland / Iceland: 26 September 2011
9.00 – 9.15 Registration & Opening by the moderator of the day: Guy Mc Pherson-Grant (EGS Ltd) 9.00 – 9.15 Welcome address: Burkhard Sanner (EGEC president) 9.30 – 9.50 Geoelec project overview: P Dumas (EGEC)
See ppt presentation online 9.50 – 10.20 Prospective for geothermal electricity in Europe: B Sanner (EGEC) & A Kronimus (TNO)
See ppt presentations online Questions:
Which data are covered in the EC ‘Atlas of geothermal resources in Europe’ (2002) ? - Heat Flow - Temperature at 1 Km and 2 Km depth - European Geothermal resources
What was the methodology ? “Resources assessment for potential Hot Dry Rock (HDR) or Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS) technology is not specifically addressed here. » « a single procedure for assessing geothermal resources allows comparison between regions and regional planning of investments in every kind of geothermal application. This is the goal of this atlas.”
10.20 – 10.50 Methodology for geothermal resource assessment: A Kronimus (TNO)
Issue of confidentiality for data provided by the Industry: This point has been discussed with the EC during the negotiation phase, we have agreed the following. “Data will be collected: - From the geological surveys and other authorities in charge of delivering the exploration
permits for the underground - From the oil and gas company’s public reports - From direct contact with oil and gas companies and project developers Indeed private companies have to ask a permit for the exploration and they have to report to the competent authority. These data are confidential but public bodies (normally geological surveys) are allowed to present publicly reports about the geothermal potential in one area, based on the results from different explorations (statistical methods).”
10.50 – 11.10 Discussion on the Geoelec methodology
Presentation of the draft Geoelec resource protocole 11.10 – 11.30 Coffee Break
11.30 – 12.30 Presentations from National Geological Surveys on geological data for geothermal - UK: BGS > Jonathan Busby - IE: SLR (replacing GSI) > Roisin Goodman - IS: ISOR > Steinunn Hauksdottir 12.30 – 12.45 Discussion
See ppt presentation online Discussion on surface temperature, and climatic conditions Issues for Ireland:
- Few wells (not even coal) - Possibility to use offshore data for onshore assessment ? - Play with the degree of recovery
12.45 – 13.45 Lunch Break 13.45 – 14.45 Presentations on existing studies of the geothermal potential from: - Project developers: Geothermal Eng. Ltd (R Law), Geothermal energy Ltd (R Pasquali), EGS Ltd (R Baria) - Consultants: SKM (T Jackson)
See ppt presentation online 14.45 – 15.15 Debate on the missing data and methodology to collect them
R&D: - Make new exploration wells to make detailed resource assessment - See data from shallow geothermal (Thermal Response test). Costs 10-15 K € / TRT
Liaise with IEA-GIA resource assessment protocole
15.15 – 16.00 Discussion and exchange with all participants on further steps
Next steps:
- TNO prepares a questionnaire to collect data - Geoelec partners agree on the protocol during meeting in Valencia (11/11/11) - Collect data with questionnaire (Nov 2011 to Feb 2012) from oil & gas companies,
project developers and power companies for
Iceland: ISOR will coordinate national activities and liaise with Mannvit. Contatc Reykjavik Energy
Ireland: SLR coordinates with SEAI
UK: BGS coordinates 16.00 – 16.20 Coffee Break 16.20-16.40 Proposal to create National Geothermal Committees: P Dumas (EGEC)
See ppt presentation online 16.40 - 17.10 Conclusion of the day and next steps: Guy Mc Pherson-Grant (EGS Ltd)
2. Report Workshop in Valencia, Spain – 10/11/2011
Workshop Spain & Portugal, 10th November 2011
Venue: Hotel Las Arenas, Eugenia Viñes 22-24 - 46011 Valencia, Spain 15.00 – 15.10 Welcome address & Opening by the moderator of the day: M de Gregorio (APPA) 15.10 – 15.30 Geoelec project overview: P Dumas (EGEC) An overview of the proposed actions and results of the GeoElec project is given. The results are mentioned: to double installed geothermal power capacity in Europe and initiate new projects in every EU member state. Also a brief introduction to each Work Package is given. (See ppt presentation online) 15.30 – 15.50 Prospective for geothermal electricity in Europe: B Sanner (EGEC) Data compilation done by EGEC: regional compilation of prospective areas and resource assessment is given (See ppt presentation online). Both Portugal and Spain are not in the European Geothermal Maps of the EC Atlas 200. 15.50 – 16.10 Methodology for geothermal resource assessment: (TNO) An overview of methodology and workflow is given, and the draft Geoelec resource protocol and the questionnaire are presented. (See ppt presentation online) 16.10 – 16.25 Discussion on the Geoelec methodology
Disseminate the draft protocol before the workshops.
Publish in the Geoelec website: TNO papers used for the protocol, Maps on EGS potential for Canada published in September 2011 by GS of Canada, EERA global map on geothermal aquifers.
16. 25 – 17.05 Presentations from National Geological Surveys and Universities on geological data for geothermal - Spain: C Garcia (IGME) - Portugal: R Caldeira (INETI-LNEG) An overview of the current situation and geothermal potential in Spain and Portugal is given. Also the available data and geothermal Research in both countries are explained. (See ppt presentations online) 17.05 – 17.15 Discussion Both Spain and Portugal have data and maps available for GEOELEC resource assessment.
17.15 – 17.30 Coffee Break 17.30 – 18.45 Presentations on existing studies of the geothermal potential from:
- Spanish Administration: C Roa (IDAE) & J Sanchez Guzman (TRT) - Spanish Geothermal Industry Association : R Gonzalez Cereijo (APPA) - Project developers: R Hidalgo (PETRATHERM) - Consultant: L Neves (Univ. Coimbra)
Projects developers and Universities have data and maps available for GEOELEC resource assessment. They are willing to provide non confidential information. (See ppt presentations online)
18.45 – 19.05 Debate on the missing data and methodology to collect them
Discussion and exchange with all participants on further steps
Next steps: - TNO is preparing a questionnaire to collect data - Geoelec partners continue discussion on the protocol, notably during project meeting in
Valencia (11/11/11) - Collect data with questionnaire (Nov 2011 to Feb 2012) from GS, universities, oil & gas
companies, project developers and power companies for:
Spain: APPA will coordinate national activities and liaise with IGME & IDAE.
Portugal: LNEG coordinates with University of Coimbra. 19.05-19.20 Proposal to create National Geothermal Committees: P Dumas (EGEC) The GEOELEC Project Goal is explained: Make a proposal to Energy Ministries and National Energy Agencies and the creation of such a Committee in 4-5 countries during the next 30 months. (See ppt presentation online). 19.20 - 19.30 Conclusion of the day
Participant List Workshop, 10th November 2011
Surname Name Organisation/Company
Recio Antonio ACS
Lasheras Miguel ACS
De Gregorio Margarita APPA
Pérez Paloma APPA
Calcagno Philippe BRGM
Manzella Adele CNR-IGG
Mendrinos Dimitrios CRES
Dumas Philippe EGEC
Sanner Burkhard EGEC
Eggeling Lena EnBW
Albarrán Alberto ENERGÍA GEOTÉRMICA
Roa Carmen IDAE
García-Noceda Celestino IGME
Caldeira Rita LNEG
Lafuente Óscar MOLINOS DEL EBRO-SAMCA
Gonzalo Francisco MOLINOS DEL EBRO-SAMCA
González Rubén NORVENTO
Hidalgo Raúl PETRATHERM
Boxem Thijs TNO
van Wees Jan-Diederik TNO
Sánchez José TRT
Neves Luis UNIVERSITY OF COIMBRA
3. Report Workshop in Milan, Italy – 5/12/2011
Workshop Italy, France, Slovenia & the Balkans, 5th December 2011
Venue: Politecnico di Milano, Auditorium, Via Pascoli 53, Milan, Italy
9.00 – 9.30 Registration 9.30 – 9.45 Welcome address & opening by A Manzella (CNR) 9.45 – 10.05 Geoelec project overview: P Dumas (EGEC)
A brief introduction to each Work Package is given. The results are also mentioned: to double installed geothermal power capacity in Europe and initiate new projects in every EU member state. (See ppt presentation online) 10.05 – 10.25 Prospective for geothermal electricity in Europe: P Calcagno (BRGM )
An overview of the previous works and Atlas dealing with the geothermal resource mapping and assessment at European scale is given. Maps showing the most promising zones in Europe for EGS and HFR are discussed. (See ppt presentation online). Distinction between theoretical and technical potential. Definition of play-lead-projects. 10.25 – 10.50 Methodology for geothermal resource assessment: JD Van Wees (TNO)
An overview of methodology and workflow is given, referring also to previous codes for reporting (MIT, AGEA, CanGEA, Beardsmore). The draft GEOELEC resource protocol and questionnaire are presented: the resource assessment protocol is based on resource assessment concepts developed in the oil and gas industry, which could be adopted in an adjusted form for geothermal resource assessment and reporting. (See ppt presentation online) 10.50 – 11.10 Discussion on the Geoelec methodology Disseminate the draft protocol before the end of the year, published online in the Geoelec website. 11.10 – 11.30 Coffee Break 11.30 – 13.00 Presentations from National Research Bodies and Universities on geological data for geothermal
- Italy: A Manzella (CNR-IGG) - France: C Dezayes (BRGM) - Slovenia: D Rajver (GeoZS) - Serbia: B Jolovic (GeoSurvey)
An overview of the available data and geothermal Research in Italy, France, Slovenia and Bosnia and Herzegovina (Semberija region) is given. Also the current situation and geothermal potential in all these countries are explained. (See ppt presentations online) 13.00 – 13.10 Discussion Many data available, especially in Italy and France. The need of public data and of a common protocol is underlined.
13.10 – 14.10 Lunch Break 14.10 – 15.30 Presentations on existing studies of the geothermal potential from:
- Italy: B Della Vedova (UGI), A Murazo (Idrogeo), Geotermica (G De Caprona), P Fulignati (Univ Pisa)
- France: C Boissavy (AFPG) - Serbia: P Toth (Mannvit)
Projects developers, Associations have data and maps available for GEOELEC resource assessment. They are willing to provide non confidential information. (See ppt presentations online)
15.30 – 15.45 Coffee Break 15.45 – 16.15 Debate on the missing data and methodology to collect them
Discussion and exchange with all participants on further steps
Next steps: - TNO is preparing a questionnaire to collect data - Geoelec partners continue discussion on the protocol - Collect data with questionnaire (Dec 2011 to Feb 2012) from GS, universities, oil & gas
companies, project developers and power companies for
Italy: CNR-IGG will coordinate national activities
France: BRGM coordinates with AFPG
Slovenia: GeoZS is in charge of the coordination 16.15-16.35 Proposal to create National Geothermal Committees: P Dumas (EGEC) The GEOELEC Project Goal is explained: Make a proposal to Energy Ministries and National Energy Agencies and the creation of such a Committee in 4‐5 countries during the next 30 months. (See ppt presentation online). 16.35 - 16.45 Conclusion of the day
Participants List
Workshop, 5th December 2011
Surname Name Organisation/Company
Angelino Luca EGEC
Dumas Philippe EGEC
Sanner Burkhard EGEC
Manzella Adele CNR-IGG
Botteghi Serena CNR-IGG
Montanari Domenico CNR-IGG
Trumpy Eugenio CNR-IGG
Gola Gianluca
Gibaud Jean philippe Schlumberger
Bartholome Gregory GDF Suez - Tractebel
Mossoux Jean Paul GDF Suez - Tractebel
Koelbel Thomas EnBW
Pizzato Massimiliano Fonroche
De Caprona Guy Geotermica
Marratzu Alessandro Idrogeo
Paltrinieri Diego Eurobuilding
Bombarda Paola Poli Milano
Cassetti Gabriele Poli Milano
Carella Roberto
Masi Maurizio Poli Milano
Santucci Giorgio EGSA
Calcagno Philippe BRGM
Dezayes Christelle BRGM
Van Wees Jan Diederik TNO
Spalek Angela GFZ
Schlagermann Pascal EnBW
Toth Peter Mannvit
Jolovic Boban Geosurvey
Mitrovic Dragan Geosurvey
Boissavy Christian AFPG
Rajver Dusan GEO ZS
Fulignati Paolo DST Univ Pisa
Serdjuk Martina GGSC
Della Vedova Bruno UGI – DICAR Univ Trieste
4. Report Workshop in Athens, Greece – 20/12/2011
Regional Workshop
Greece, Cyprus, Malta, Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey
20th December 2011
Venue: CRES offices, 19th km Marathonos ave, 19009 Pikermi, Athens 9.00 – 9.30 Registration 9.30 – 9.40 Welcome address & Opening by the moderator of the day: Dr. C. Karytsas, (CRES) 9.40 – 10.10 Geoelec project overview: L Angelino (EGEC) An overview of the proposed actions and results of the GeoElec project is given. The results are mentioned: to double installed geothermal power capacity in Europe and initiate new projects in every EU member state. Also a brief introduction to each Work Package is given. (See ppt presentation online) 10.10 – 10.40 Prospective for geothermal electricity in Europe: N.Andritsos (U. of Thessalia) An overview of the previous works and Atlas dealing with the geothermal resource mapping and assessment at European scale is given. Maps showing the most promising zones in Europe for EGS and HFR are discussed. (See ppt presentation online). 10.40 – 11.00 Coffee Break 11.00 – 11.30 GeoElec WP2: C. Karytsas (CRES) 11.30 – 12.00 Geothermal resources for power generation in Greece: D. Mendrinos (CRES) 12.00 – 12.30 Geothermal resources of Romania: M. Rosca (U. Of Oradea) 12.30 – 13.00 Geothermal resources for power generation and development in Turkey: Orhan Mertoglu
(TGA) 13.00 – 13.30 Geothermal prospects of Milos, Nisyros, Lesvos and Methana: M.Chlamboutakis,
I.Tsipouridis (PPC‐R) An overview of the available data and geothermal Research in Greece, Romania, and Turkey is given. Also the current situation and geothermal potential and support schemes in all these countries are explained. (See ppt presentations online) 13.30 – 15.00 Lunch Break 15.00 – 15.30 Methodology for geothermal resource assessment: discussion An overview of methodology and workflow is given, and the draft Geoelec resource protocol and the questionnaire are presented. (See ppt presentation online). A draft protocol before the end of the year, sent by email to participants and published online on the Geoelec website
15.30 – 16.00 Debate on geothermal data collection Discussion and exchange with all participants on further steps
Collect data with questionnaire (Dec 2011 to Feb 2012) from GS, universities, oil & gas companies, project developers and power companies. Next step: TNO to send questionnaire to participants.
16.00 – 16.30 Establishing National Geothermal Committees: L Angelino (EGEC) Make a proposal to Energy Ministries and National Energy Agencies and the creation of such a Committee in 4-5 countries during the next 30 months. (See ppt presentation online). Participants from Greece and Turkey express their interest in such a proposal. 16.30 – 16.45 Conclusions
Participants List Workshop, 20th December 2011
Participants No.
Surname Name Organisation/Company
1 Angelino Luca EGEC
2 Spynidonos Evangelos PPCR
3 Mendrinos Dimitrios CRES
4 Rosca Marcel University of Oradea
5 Andritsos Nikolaos University of Thessaly
6 Georgantonis Christos Terna Energy
7 Panea Crina University of Oradea
8 Mertoglu Orhan Turkish Geothermal Association
9 Boxem Thijs TNO
10 Polysane Olympio CRES
11 Karytsas
Cristos CRES
12 Haldezos Ioannis CRES
13 Karkoulias Vassilios Hellenic Geothermal Association
14 Oikonomou Theni CRES
5. Report Workshop in Utrecht, Netherlands – 24/1/2012
Workshop The Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg, Sweden and Norway
9.45 – 10.05 Geoelec project overview: P Dumas (EGEC) A brief introduction to each Work Package is given. The results are also mentioned: to double installed geothermal power capacity in Europe and initiate new projects in every EU member state. (See ppt presentation online)
Noted that EGEC is organizing a workshop with Deep Drilling Companies on the 1st of March All information – including publications on GE – can be found on the GEOELEC website (www.geoelec.eu)
10.05 – 10.25 Methodology for geothermal resource assessment: JD VanWees (TNO) An overview of methodology and workflow is given, referring also to previous codes for reporting (MIT, AGEA, CanGEA, Beardsmore). The draft GEOELEC resource protocol and questionnaire are presented: the resource assessment protocol is based on resource assessment concepts developed in the oil and gas industry, which could be adopted in an adjusted form for geothermal resource assessment and reporting. (See ppt presentation online) Target GEOELEC is on Plays. Known project will only be reported (if communicated to/known by TNO/EGEC Level 3) Guus Willemsen (IF Technology): 150°C low for flash? Jan Diederik van Wees Yes low vlue. Not so relevant as we will use generailized energy conversion cf MIT report Guus Willemsen (IF Technology): Why make the division at al? agreed not to make distinction in production technology, see previous comment Paul Ramsak (AgentschapNL): What are your thoughts to represents potential, not just electric Task in this project is to present electricity conversion. But working on GeoDH (district heating), potentially using GEOELEC data Burkhard Sanner (EGEC): From experience, policymakers not sensible for heat, so main focus on electricity FYI : Germany (2009) Renewable heat law
10.25 – 10.50 Discussion on the Geoelec methodology Distinction between theoretical and technical potential per Km² Discussion on:
- minimum temperature for flash and steam turbines - Efficiency curves - Heat potential (it will be investigated in the future GeoDH project)
Disseminate the draft protocol and the questionnaire, also published online in the Geoelec website.
10.50 – 11.10 Prospective for geothermal electricity in Europe: B Sanner (EGEC) An overview of the previous works and Atlas dealing with the geothermal resource mapping and assessment at European scale is given. Maps showing the most promising zones in Europe for EGS and HFR are discussed. (See ppt presentation online). Atlas of Geothermal Resource in Europe available digitally through GEOELEC website Mainly focused on hydrothermal Recent (2011) Canadian Resource Assessment available (publically) online, soon also through the GEOELEC website
11.10 – 11.30 Coffee Break
11.30 – 12.30 Presentations from National Research Bodies and Universities on geological data for geothermal
- DK,SE,LU: B Sanner (EGEC)
- NL: JD VanWees (TNO)
- BE: E Petitclerc (RBINS)
- NO: K Midttomme (CMR )
An overview of the available data and geothermal Research in Denmark, Luxembourg, Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium and Norway is given. Also the current situation and geothermal potential in all these countries are explained. (See ppt presentations online) Denmark, Sweden & Luxembourg by Burkhard Sanner (EGEC) See presentation through GEOELEC website SDDP: Swedish Deep Drilling Programme, part of IDCP (International ~) Mainly surface extrapolation Discussion: Take Greenland (as part of (former) kingdom of Denmark) into account (geothermally interesting) hot wells exceeding 60°C Not part of EU/Europe Luxembourg could be extrapolated from data by surrounding countries David Bruhn (GFZ Potsdam): we have PhD (originally from Luxembourg) who investigates geothermal potential of Luxembourg, which will be defended soon. Belgium by Estelle Petitclerc (RBINS) See presentation through GEOELEC website Cold geothermal gradients related to karstic circulation Pieter van Heiningen (Fugro): To what depth profiles in Belgium No funding secured yet for new depth profiles planned. Burkhard Sanner (EGEC): Deepest well exceeding 5km, good for calibration David Bruhn (GFZ Potsdam): Vito project, no deep info… On what are they basing their (very detailed) activities/plans? Geophysical data and there is a 2km deep well nearby, supported by mining & petroleum exploration Norway by Kirsti Midttømme (CMR) See presentation through GEOELEC website Most of the new heat flow data is publically available.
Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO): Also temperature translation to depth? There is a database on thermal conductivities (from lab measurements) Burkhard Sanner (EGEC): On Radiogenic Heat Production (RHP), a lot of the assessments take RHP into account, is it also incorporated in the data acquisition sheet? Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO): yes, it is by the outlines of the granite bodies Kirti Midttomme (CMR): data available on the thickness and extend of granites is available Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO): Some lines on the methodology will be put in the protocol on the incorporation of the RHP The Netherlands by Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO) See presentation through GEOELEC website Guus Willemsen (IF Technology): Are the presented maps the same as presented in EAGE SES meeting in Valencia? Yes, but they differ from the published extended abstract David Bruhn (GFZ Potsdam): What indicates the karstification of the carbonates in the south? This is interpreted from a combination of outcropping data in Belgium on Paleozoic carbonates showing clear proof of carstification and can be inferred from wells and mapped unconformities marked by periods of erosion. …IIndication on flow rates is very difficult/almost impossible Burkhard Sanner (EGEC): Timing karstification known? It may have happened in the Paleozoic but also in periods of exhumation afterwards (e.g. during Cretaceous inversion and erosion)
12.30 – 12.45 Discussion
Greenland is interesting , but it will not be covered in Geoelec.
Not enough very deep wells in Belgium (only 5 wells more than 3 Km depth)
For Norway, Discussion on radiogenic / granite potential. Example of Aberdeen, in Scotland.
12.45 – 13.30 Lunch Break
13.30 – 15.10 Presentations on existing studies of the geothermal potential from: - Project developers, Associations, Consultants
- NL: V Van Heekeren (Stichting Platform Geothermie) & G Willemsen (IF technology) & J Smeets (Kema)
- BE: R. Deschaetzen (Earth Solutions) Projects developers, Associations have data and maps available for GEOELEC resource assessment. They are willing to provide non confidential information. (See ppt presentations online) Victor van Heekeren (Stichting Platform Geothermie) See presentation through GEOELEC website Additional presentation by Paul Lako (ECN) on Dutch feed-in tariffs (SDE+) Risks covered for 85% through guarantee funds, up to 95% for private entities Guus Willemsen (IF Technology) on Deep Geothermal Energy Projects (EGS) in the Netherlands See presentation through GEOELEC website Burkhard Sanner (EGEC): 2 wells needed for pumping, 1 for injection, why. That is what is calculated to maintain acceptable flowrates Burkhard Sanner (EGEC): Injection pumping needed? Yes, production due to buoyancy Burkhard Sanner (EGEC): Calculation done with oil industry software, does it assume anything else than isotropic reservoir? No, it assumes all available logdata (stress) withour existing fracture Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO): Did you model shear of tensile fractures? TF David Bruhn (GFZ Potsdam): Why fracture and not acidy it? Permeability too low
Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO): Which statistics concerning Young’s Modulus & Poisson ratio? 0.3 … & 70 GPa Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO): 20 fracs, due to irregularity… ? Higher losses than assumed here Differentation in fracture concerning transmissivity? Yes Burkhard Sanner (EGEC): Not concerned of fracture interaction? Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO): How big is the risk considered? What geology does 40km to the east, no idea natural fracture structure or influence on that. Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO): danger, no nat fract, but nearby active fault (stress release), but risk is low Paul Ramsak (AgentschapNL): Which flow rates? That can be modeled, but is difficult at these depths. Done using 20 faults, resulting in 100kg/s David Bruhn (GFZ Potsdam): target 250°C at 7km + ORC powerplant. Still in debate with KEMA Jules Smeets (KEMA) on Power Plant Conceptual design See presentation through GEOELEC website Chris Roland Holst (Roland Holst Insurance & Finance): Also decrease of flow rates considered? Yes, sensitivity analysis is carried out, also in flow rates Paul Ramsak (AgentschapNL): Temperatures? ORC 110C after heat exchanger David Bruhn (GFZ Potsdam): How much you cool the brine depends on composition? At the moment no idea what the brine will be. Scaling & corrosion measures are considered. Optimalization possible. Victor van Heekeren (SPG): Concerning scaling and corrosion and focusing on efficiency: keeping the dT in the exchanger low (maintain high temperatures) is advised Guus Willemsen (IF Technology): As long as the economy is oil driven, direct use of heat is always more efficient. But also with electricity production, you have excess heat. David Bruhn (GFZ Potsdam): Only true when ETS is not taken in consideration (economical) Victor van Heekeren (SPG): communication at the end of the day might be attractive electricity production areas, but advise on the use of direct heat Roland DeSchaetzen (Earth Solutions) on Development and funding for geothermal energy See presentation through GEOELEC website Green Certificates for PV: 65 – 100 euro/MW on top of regular electricity price Feeding of the aquifer is through natural recharge Paul Ramsak (AgentschapNL): You have to pump the water out? No, it flows out at 100l/s, stable for 30 years Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO): Did you model the pressure support through natural recharge? Yes by the University of Mons.
15.10 – 15.30 Coffee Break
15.30 – 15.50 Debate on the missing data and methodology to collect them Discussion and exchange with all participants on further steps
Presentation of the Data Acquisition Sheet by Jan Diederik van Wees (TNO) Participants are kindly requested to contribute and fill in the questionnaire which will be sent to all participants/applicants the next week. Paul Ramsak (AgentschapNL): EERAnet – European database of the Dutch subsurface and an active network of R&D (people in ~) in Geothermal The information/data which is – in principal – available.
Philippe Dumas (EGEC): Another project which might use the within GEOELEC collected data is GeoDH; a resource assessment for direct use. Burkhard Sanner (EGEC): Information on licenses in Germany is only available when you can show that you have justified interest, which is a problem for … The responsible entity for the data collection per country
NL: TNO
DK: GEUS
LUX: SGL
NO: Geological Survey
SWE: to be determined Deadline: ideally within a month after the workshop, but at latest the end of March.
Next steps: - TNO will send minutes+ protocol + questionnaire to collect data - Geoelec partners continue discussion on the protocol - Collect data with questionnaire (Jan 2011 to end March 2012) from GS, universities, oil
& gas companies, project developers and power companies for
Netherlands: TNO will coordinate national activities
Belgium: SGB coordinates with VITO (for Flanders)
Denmark: GEUS is in charge of the coordination (Lars Henrik Nielsen: [email protected] )
15.50 - 16.05 Proposal to create National Geothermal Committees: P Dumas (EGEC) Presentation by Philippe Dumas (EGEC) on the proposal for National Geothermal Committees The presentation is available through the GEOELEC website
16.05 - 16.25 New Dutch Support Schemes for Geothermal: P Lako (ECN)
A presentation on the new Dutch supporting scheme (SDE+) by Paul Lako (ECN) The presentation is available through the GEOELEC website Jules Smeets (KEMA): How much power needed to produce to apply for CHP SDE+ funds: Heat-Power relation should be 2.5 Victor van Heekeren (SPG): What is interesting is the comparison to other energy conversion technologies If all renewable energy conversion technologies are ranked on the same grounds, geothermal scores very high and makes it politically very strong. Victor van Heekeren (SPG): Current SDE+ tariff is 1.5ct/kWh, which is very low
16.25 – 16.40 Conclusions of the day by JD VanWees (TNO) Jan Diederik van Wees gives the main conclusions of the day and asks for opinion of the day Philippe Dumas: Interesting workshop (presentations/debate) and every workshop we get a better and more thourough insight in the amount and types of data
Burkhard Sanner: Interesting to hear about all the different projects which are underway. But not fully convinced that all the data will come Paul Ramsak: Good initiative and important for the network Inga Berre: Interesting to learn about GEOELEC and the proposed methodology which maybe be put in to use Mara van Eck van der Sluijs: Heared a lot of interesting stuff, no law in Belgium Roland DeSchaetzen: Impressed by amount of data available in NL en thank you for the opportunity Jules Smeets: Interesting presentations and thank you for inviting me. Chris Roland Holst: Good step to gather more information and hope to learn more about risk mitigation Guus Willemsen: Very nice workshop, but what is the timeframe (ambitious goals)? Temperature maps coming summer 2012 (prototype viewer) and fill it gradually in. The protocol will be finished in March Erik Bax: Interesting to hear about project abroad David Bruhn: It was good to see the benchmark… Success depends on the return of the data Thijs Boxem: Thank you very much for coming to Utrecht and in my opinion it was a good day Jan Diederik van Wees: Every workshop surprise of the mix of projects and science and the atmosphere is constructive and very useful, not only for GEOELEC
Participants List Workshop, 24th January 2012
Surname First Name Company/Organisation
1 Boxem Thijs TNO
2 Van Wees Jan Diederik TNO
3 Dumas Philippe EGEC
4 Sanner Burkhard EGEC
5 Petitclerc Estelle RBINS
6 van heekeren victor STP
7 Willemsen Guus IF
8 Deschaetzen Roland Earth solutions
9 Midtomme Kirsti CMR
10 Lako Paul ECN
11 Holst Chris Roland Roland Holst Insurance & Finance
12 Lund Bø Øystein IRIS - International Research Institute of Stavanger
13 Berre Inga CMR
14 Gankema Mark IF
15 van der Hoorn Kees IF
16 Tuenter Hans IF
17 Drenth Eize Oranjewoud
18 Ramsak Paul Agentschap NL
19 Hagen Rutger Agro AdviesBuro b.v.
20 Smeets Jules KEMA Nederland BV
21 Bax Erik Agro AdviesBuro b.v.
22 Snikkers Dirk
23 van Eck van der Sluijs Mara Staatstoezicht op de Mijnen
24 Jharap Graciela Staatstoezicht op de Mijnen
25 Trumpy Eugenio CNR-IGG
26 van Gerwen Anton EAGE
27 Taselaar F.M. (Frans) Hompe en Taselaar B.V.
last minute cancellations
Nielsen Lars Henrik GEUS
Hautman Jan NEGA
van der Molen Laura Ministry of Economic Affairs, Agriculture & Innovation
6. Report Workshop in Offenburg, Germany – 29/ 2 /2012
It will be important to explain the benefits of providing data to the contributors in order to motivate
them. (provide final data for free ?).
14.30 - 14.50 Coffee Break
14.50 - 16.00 Research Bodies & Universities: Regional geological database for deep geothermal
(10’)
Germany: LIAG Hannover (T. Agemar)
Poland: Pasmeeri (B Sanner-EGEC on behalf on B Kepinska)
Czech Republic: Czech Geological Society (J. Holeček)
Slovakia: SGUDS (M. Gregor,)
Hungary: MAFI (A. Nador)
Austria: Geologische Bundesanstalt (G. Götzl ) An overview of the available data and geothermal Research in Germany, Poland, Czech Rep., Slovakia, Hungary, Austria, Switzerland is given. Also the current situation and geothermal potential in all these countries are explained. (See ppt presentations online)
16.00 - 16.40 Industry: Existing studies of the geothermal potential (10’)
Germany: Energie Baden-Württemberg EnBW (T. Kölbel)
Switzerland: Axpo (J. Uhde) Projects developers, Associations have data and maps available for GEOELEC resource assessment. They are willing to provide non confidential information. (See ppt presentations online)
16.40 – 17.00 Coffee Break
17.00 - 17.30 Discussion on needs & gaps: missing data, methodology, regional input for Geoelec Participants are kindly requested to contribute and fill in the questionnaire which will be sent to all participants/applicants the next week. The responsible entity for the data collection per country
DE: GFZ
PL: PASMEERI
CZ: CGS
SK: SGUDS
HU: MAFI
AT : GB
CH : to be confirmed Deadline: ideally within a month after the workshop, but at latest the end of March.
Next steps: - GFZ will send minutes+ protocol + questionnaire to collect data - Geoelec partners continue discussion on the protocol - Collect data with questionnaire (Feb 2012 to end March 2012) from GS, universities, oil
& gas companies, project developers and power companies for
17.30 - 18.00 Proposal to create National Geothermal Committees (P. Dumas, EGEC) Presentation by Philippe Dumas (EGEC) on the proposal for National Geothermal Committees The presentation is available through the GEOELEC website
18.15 Conclusion of the day (D. Bruhn, GFZ)
David Bruhn gives the main conclusions of the day and asks for opinion of the day.
Participants List Workshop, 29th February 2012
Participant No. Name Organisation
1 Ádám László Mannvit
2 Agemar Thorsten LIAG Hannover
3 Albarran Alberto ENERGÍA GEOTÉRMICA (APPA)
4 Albrecht Bernhard CEE Energy Sp. z o.o.
5 Angelino Luca EGEC
6 Badoux Vincent ETH Zurich
7 Bertani Ruggero ENEL
8 Bruhn David GFZ
9 Dezayes Chrystel BRGM
10 Dumas Philippe EGEC
11 Eggeling Lena Energie Baden-Württemberg EnBW
12 Ganz Britta LIAG Hannover
13 Götzl Gregor Geologische Bundesanstalt
14 Gregor Milos Geological Survey of Slovak Republic
15 Haase Christian 360plus Consult GmbH
16 Holecek Jan Czech Geological Survey
17 Keglovic Peter Geothermiezentrum Aspern GmbH
18 Kölbel Thomas Energie Baden-Württemberg EnBW
19 Kreutz Simon GeoThermal Engineering GmbH (GeoT)
20 Kuder Jörg LIAG Hannover
21 Kujbus Attila Geo express
22 Manzella Adele CNR-IGG
23 Mertoglu Orhan ORME
24 Nádor Annamaria MAFI
25 Pari Istvan Geonardo Environmental Technologies
Venue: NH Viesbutis Narutis Hotel – Columns hall, Vilnius, Lithuania 14.00 – 14.05 Opening by B Sanner (EGEC) 14.05 – 14.20 Geoelec project overview: P Dumas (EGEC)
A brief introduction to each Work Package is given. The results are also mentioned: to double installed
geothermal power capacity in Europe and initiate new projects in every EU member state. (See ppt
presentation online)
All information – including publications on GE – can be found on the GEOELEC website (www.geoelec.eu) 14.20 – 14.40 Prospective for geothermal electricity in Europe: B Sanner (EGEC)
An overview of the previous works, Atlas and the Blue Book on geothermal (1999) dealing with the
geothermal resource mapping and assessment at European scale is given. Maps showing the most
promising zones in Europe for EGS and HFR are discussed. (See ppt presentation online).
Atlas of Geothermal Resource in Europe and the Blue book are available digitally through GEOELEC
website 14.40 – 15.10 Methodology for geothermal resource assessment: T Boxem (TNO)
An overview of methodology and workflow is given, referring also to previous codes for reporting (MIT,
AGEA, CanGEA, Beardsmore). The draft GEOELEC resource protocol and questionnaire are presented: the
resource assessment protocol is based on resource assessment concepts developed in the oil and gas
industry, which could be adopted in an adjusted form for geothermal resource assessment and reporting.
(See ppt presentation online)
Target GEOELEC is on Plays. Known project will only be reported (if communicated to/known by
TNO/EGEC Level 3) 15.10 – 15.20 Discussion on the Geoelec methodology Need to define the abbreviations of the questionnaire Conversion factor: is there a need for improvement of the efficiency? how to quantity it ? Develop CHP with the remaining heat Important to send feedback to collectors of data:
- Especially if some data is missing - Invite them for the presentation of the results during promotional workshops
15.20 – 15.40 Coffee Break 15.40 – 16.40 Presentations on geological data for geothermal:
Lithuania: Geothermal electricity in Lithuania - potential geological formations and technologies - S. Sliaupa (Lithuanian Institute of Geology and Geography) - F Zinevicius (Lithuanian Geothermal Association)
An overview of the available data and geothermal Research in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia is given. Also the current situation and geothermal potential in all these countries are explained. (See ppt presentations online) 16.40 – 16.50 Discussion 16.50 – 17.10 Coffee Break 17.10 – 18.00 Presentations on geological data for geothermal:
Sweden: - O Gudmundsson (University of Uppsala)
Finland: - B Sanner (EGEC: presenting for Geological Survey of Finland - GTK) Ukraine: - B Sanner (EGEC) An overview of the available data and geothermal Research in Sweden, Finland and Ukraine is given. Also the current situation and geothermal potential in all these countries are explained. (See ppt presentations online) 18.00 – 18.15 Discussion and exchange with all participants on further steps Discussion on radiogenic rocks and the potential for EGS in granite. Examples of Aberdeen, Cornwall, Baltic and Nordic Countries Participants are kindly requested to contribute and fill in the questionnaire which will be sent to all participants/applicants the next week. The responsible entity for the data collection per country
LT : LGA & LIGG
LV : LGA
EE : EGA
SE : Uppsala Univ and SGS
FI : GTK Deadline: ideally within a month after the workshop, but at latest the end of April.
Next steps: - EGEC sends minutes+ protocol + questionnaire to collect data - Geoelec partners continue discussion on the protocol - Collect data with questionnaire (March 2012 to end April 2012) from GS, universities, oil
& gas companies, project developers and power companies for 18.15 -18.30 Proposal to create National Geothermal Committees: P Dumas (EGEC) Presentation by Philippe Dumas (EGEC) on the proposal for National Geothermal Committees The presentation is available through the GEOELEC website 18.30 - 18.40 Conclusion of the day
Participants List
Workshop, 22nd March 2012
Participant No. Surname First Name Company/Organisation
1 Afionian Azatui Vilnius University
2 Angelino Luca EGEC
3 Boxem Thijs TNO
4 Dumas Philippe EGEC
5 Gavena Inga LNGA
6 Golunovs Juris Latvian National Geothermal Association
7 Gudmundsson olafur Uppsala University
8 Mazintas Arunas Geotermas
9 Motuza Gediminas Vilnius University
10 Rasteniene Vita Institute of Geology.
11 Sanner Burkhard EGEC
12 Sliaupa Saulius Institute of Geology and Geography
Seven regional workshops were held between September 2011 and March 2012 to collect existing data on resource assessment. Every workshop gathered relevant stakeholder and was key to establish contacts for the collection of data in the following countries: Furthermore, the workshops were critical for receiving expert inputs regarding the methodology for geothermal resource assessment. The 7 regional events were functional to understand the state of play in the assessment of the geothermal resources as well as the current development of the geothermal sector in Europe. The interactive nature of these events also paved the way for further collaboration, notably regarding the legislative frameworks and the GEOELEC proposal to create national geothermal committees in EU countries.
Countries Organiser/Contact Date Venue
United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland- Iceland
EGEC 26th September 2011
London
Greece, Cyprus, CRES 20th December 2011
Athens
Spain and Portugal
APPA 10th November 2011
Valencia
France, Italy, Slovenia
IGG-CNR, BRGM
5th December 2011
Milan
The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark and Sweden
