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by JOHN NOLTE (/COLUMNISTS/JOHN-NOLTE) 15 Dec 2012, 6:52 AM PDT POST A COMMENT
Dem. Rep. Jerrold Nadler is at least being honest
(http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/14/dem-lawmaker-get-gun-control-obama-must-exploit-sh/) about
how he, and no doubt many Leftists, would like to feast off an
unthinkable tragedy and exploit it in order to pursue a
nonsensical agenda that would ensure only bad guys have guns.
Last night on "The Ed Show," Nadler openly called for President
Obama to "exploit" the murder of 20 children, I think we will be
there if the president exploits it, and otherwise well go on to the
next.
In his statement (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/14/Is-Obama-Already-Politicizing-Sandy-Hook-Shooting) to the country yesterday, while he wasn't
specific about what action he intended to take, President Obama did make clear that
action would be forthcoming. Obama also hinted that this action would be politically
divisive when he warned that "meaningful action" would need to be taken "regardless of
the politics."
As we all know this is a "never let a crisis go to waste" president and party. And what we
now have is Nadler, a powerful Democrat, already eager to "exploit" raw emotions and the
massacre of children in order to push an issue Democrats have considered politically
untouchable since Al Gore lost his home state of Tennessee, and along with it, the White
House, during his 2000 presidential bid.
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Culturally, politically, intellectually, and in the Supreme Court, Democrats long ago lost in
their unconstitutional crusade to grab our guns, a crusade they had been waging for
decades. But as is the case with all things Leftist, the battle is never really over. These are
mercenary opportunists always biding their time, always waiting to strike, and always
willing to exploit even the most unspeakable of events if it means any kind of political
advantage.
It's also a "damn the facts" crusade. There's no question guns make us safer
(http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2007-04-18.html) and that the only way to
prevent these kinds of tragedies is to have a trained and armed citizenry able to defend
itself when faced with a madman. It's a no-brainer that willing teachers should be armed
and trained. At the very least, an armed security guard should be stationed at every school.
The result would not only offer resistance in the face of an armed attacker, but also a
deterrent.
If you want to attract a mass shooter, create a gun-free zone where these murderers know
no one can fight back. On the other hand, if these killers knew there was a good chance
armed and trained individuals were in that building, they might be a little more reluctant
to enter that building.
These are common sense solutions. But the left has a bigger goal, and that's to disarm the
law-abiding. Guns represent individualism and the ability to take care of one's self -- two
values anathema to leftism itself. This is an ideology that wants its citizenry docile,
vulnerable, and most of all, dependant on government for everything, including theability to protect ourselves and those we love.
We must remind the public that the result of the Left winning the battle to take our guns
would only mean more school shootings. It's just a fact that those capable of such evil will
always have access to guns in the same way those who want anything else prohibited
(guns, gambling, prostitution) always get what they want. But now this evil will know that
any new gun control laws have only made us a society of sitting ducks.
This is a price the Left is willing to pay to consolidate their power around Mother
Government. And in the coming days, the media will also prove its willingness to pay this
same price. They will attempt to turn "gun control" into compassion and opposition to it
into gun nuttery.
It will be a tough fight as all Orwellian fights are, but we must wade in for the sake of the
children.
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obama and Holder provided cartels with assault weapons,
which killed hundreds of innocent people.
Those two jackasses do NOT hold the moral high ground.
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A LIKE REPLY 11 minutes ago 2 Likes F
THAT'S RIGHT!! PROHIBIT HANDGUNS...............
IT'LL BE THE SAME SCENARIO AS WITH LIQUOR, THE MODERN DAY CAPONES, LANSKY'S LUCIANO'S
WILL GET RICH!!
YOU CAN'T KEEP THE PUBLIC FROM WHAT THEY WANT, IT'S A MATTER OF FREEDOM AND ISN'T THAT
WHAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON???
HOWEVER, THE VALUE OF HUMAN LIFE HAS BEEN DIMINISHED THROUGH MOVIES AND THESE
BLOODY VIDEO GAMES, GIVING RIGHTS TO CHILDREN TO CREATE DISTURBANCES IN CLASS,
YOUNG MEMBERS OF SOCIETY HAVE LOST THEIR SENSE OF REALITY.
YOU WANT TO CAST BLAME???
TRY HOLLYWOOD, THESE PSYCHOLOGISTS THAT LET THESE DANGEROUS HALFWITS ROAM
UNCHECKED AND THE MORONS AT THE ACLU THAT ENSURE A POTENTIALLY VIOLENT PERSON TO
ALL THEIR FREEDOMS UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY KILL A SCHOOL YARD FULL OF KIDS.
THERE'S THE PROBLEM! NOT GUNS!
SOCIETY HAS JUST BECOME TOO LIBERAL AND RESPECT FOR OTHERS HAS BEEN THROWN ON THE
GARBAGE HEAP OF LIFE................
MPISI
A LIKE REPLY 22 minutes ago 1 Like F
Nadler reminds me of Hermann Goering running around Berlin after the Reichstag fire.
PAUL M WINTERS
A LIKE REPLY 24 minutes ago 4 Likes F
Are you kidding me? Had at least one single person at that school been armed, countless lives could have been
saved! The only gun control should be requiring that ALL Americans be armed at ALL times!
www.OT-Anon.tk
SOBOBJON
A LIKE REPLY 7 minutes ago in reply to SoBobJon F
As someone pointed out, when was the last time one of these loons decided to go out in a blaze of
glory in somplace where people are armed? It's always where there is a concentration of unarmed
people. Go figure.
THELINEISDRAWN
A LIKE REPLY 19 minutes ago in reply to SoBobJon F
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ONDOBOI
A LIKE REPLY 25 minutes ago 1 Like F
Theres a 1 in 23000 chance that when you take your child in a car that the child will be fatally injured. There is
a 1 in 2.5 million chance that your child will be fatally injured by a shooter in school. Israel had this problem with
gunmen at their schools and solved it by arming the school teachers. You can find these numbers in Federal
publications online.
ZENO2654
A LIKE REPLY 19 minutes ago in reply to zeno2654 F
Hence the big push to get rid of automobiles. Oh wait...we dont have that do we.DMOORE
A LIKE REPLY 37 minutes ago 3 Likes F
Come on guys! Making guns illegal will really help stop these situations f rom happening! We made drugs illegal
and look how that stopped all of the illegal use!
DMOORE
Gun ownership is nothing new however this sort of thing only recently started to occur. The question that needs
to be asked is what has changed as of late that could be a causality?
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A LIKE REPLY 38 minutes ago 4 Likes F
I submit it is the removal of God from society. Liberals have been working their magic on this
country for a long while now especially since the '60s. I submit the Godless society they have been intent on
creating has taken the fear of God and of God's judgment right out of these lunatics' minds. That fear can be
the only thing preventing some from going on a suicidal rampage or committing some other senseless crimes.
Liberals will rail that they don't need a fear of God to make them not do such a thing. Yeah, well these lunatics
obviously do.
These mass shootings only recently started occurring. What changed? Society! At the demand of liberals who
insisted they knew best.
A LIKE REPLY 21 minutes ago in reply to texson 3 Likes F
And liberal teaching that absolves them from responsibility.
Quick! Let's exploit these kids before they get in the ground!
Can't waste a crisis! The liberal response to this tragedy is sickening...
FAT HUBIE
A LIKE REPLY 32 minutes ago in reply to texson F
Don't be an ass. Atheism wasn't invented yesterday.
JAMES DONNAUGHT
A LIKE REPLY 7 minutes ago in reply to James Donnaught F
No but up until recently Liberals had not yet forced their atheistic ideology into the forefront of
society under the guise of secularism. I have no doubt that you are completely incapable of
even pondering the question of why such mass killings are only recently beginning to happen
so often.
TEXSON
A LIKE REPLY 29 minutes ago in reply to James Donnaught 1 Like F
Good point - Atheists are the greatest mass murderers of all time, as Stalin, Hitler, and Pol Pot
all proved.
AUNTIELIB
A LIKE 5 minutes ago in reply to auntielib F
No, Hitler was not an atheist. Mysticism and occultism or paganism isn;t atheism and
is just another religion with it's own unique metaphysics. And blaming atheism for the
actions of a totalitarian government is simply idiotic. the devout communist was filled
with the same religious fervor and belief in his cause just as any other religious
fundamentalist who murder's with impunity is. Atheism in and of itself doesnt equal an
indifference to murder dumbass. Of course you also completely side step the fascist
and catholic puppet state the Nazis set up in Croatia too.
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE 12 minutes ago in reply to auntielib 1 Like F
JNB - Hitler was hardly religious or catholic. NAZI germany shut down churches in the
beginning, and by the end were establishing a quasi-religious Aryan faith on the
people. The youth camps he set up were elevating the worship of the Aryan people
into a kind of divine revelation. It got real sick at the end; you don't have a clue.
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE 13 minutes ago in reply to auntielib 1 Like F
You are dead on accurate. The 20th century was the story of atheistic governments
committing mass murder on a scale never before seen in human history. Liberals
must delude themselves on this point in order to maintain their beliefs. The truth is
simply incompatible to liberalism.
TEXSON
Wrong again, JNBSTRAIGHT.
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A LIKE 15 minutes ago in reply to auntielib F
Hitler was indeed an Atheist.
A LIKE 20 minutes ago in reply to auntielib F
Hitler was not an atheist and his puppet state in Croatia were devout Catholics hence
why after WW2 the Church hustled numerous war criminals out of the country.
Claiming that atheism is to blame for the mass murder of a totalitarian government is
idiotic even for you.
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE REPLY 39 minutes ago F
NOW another killing in Oklahoma GUNS again OK, conservative
WHAT do we do NOTHING we need control of HAND GUNS NOW
CARSRUS
A LIKE REPLY 28 minutes ago in reply to carsrus 1 Like F
Obama can lead by example, and order his Secret Service detail to no longer carry HAND GUNS.
Get back to us when he has done that, OK?
AUNTIELIB
A LIKE REPLY 32 minutes ago in reply to carsrus F
What are you talking about? Nothing happened in OK...?
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE REPLY 1 minute ago in reply to john_robinson F
I didnt say Hitler was a catholic. I said he wasn't an atheist. Occultism is just another form of
religion with it's own metaphysics.
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE REPLY 40 minutes ago F
Think about all of those who cannot defend themselves from brutal attack, who is there to protect them when it
takes place? This was the case for these kids and their families, no one there armed to attempt to stop this
tragedy from ocurring, no police could have made it to the scene of this crime in time to stop it, even the newlyadapted security of the school failed, these beings were at the mercy of the mentally deranged person with a
weapon assaulting them. This apparently does not click in the minds of a leftist bent on taking away your
means of self defense, the use of your unconfirmed fear is more than enough fo them to impair your safety and
that of your family and friends, you simply become another unexplained stat for them to distort in the use of their
fear campaign...
This is the same way the left uses the progressive tax to keep class warfare and tax discrimination in the
forefront of commonsense..what a bunch of swells.
ONTIME
A LIKE REPLY 30 minutes ago in reply to ONTIME F
Lanza's mother had three guns in the house -- that worked out really well, eh?
JAMES DONNAUGHT
A LIKE REPLY 26 minutes ago in reply to James Donnaught F
Obama himself has FAR more guns than that in HIS house.
How has that worked out?
AUNTIELIB
Yep. Wake up, JNBSTRAIGHT .
at any given moment, there are probably AT LEAST 10 Secret Service agents inside
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the White House, each one of which carries a semi-automatic and (in all likelihood)
second backup piece, perhaps on the ankle. That's 2 guns per agent times 10 agents.
You do the math.
A LIKE 16 minutes ago in reply to auntielib F
What?
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE REPLY 40 minutes ago 2 Likes F
Would this mass murder have been less tragic had the sociopath used a bomb or a semi-truck? What if he'd
sealed them in a room and thrown in a cannister of prussic acid, would that have made it easier to digest. NO.
Stop with the assault on the second amendment please, for the sake of FREE citizens.
EELECTRON
A LIKE REPLY 28 minutes ago in reply to eelectron F
Repeal the Second Amendment. No other country in the civilzed world has such a ridiculous thing.
JAMES DONNAUGHT
A LIKE REPLY 12 minutes ago in reply to James Donnaught 1 Like F
Here's a better idea: why don't you LEAVE?
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE REPLY 16 minutes ago in reply to James Donnaught F
notice they have almost no gun deaths either.
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE REPLY 18 minutes ago in reply to James Donnaught F
An unarmed citizen is a Subject whil an armed citizen ina FREE Citizen.
You give up your rights and carry a Sign that says GunFree Subject so the criminals will know
who to assault. Post your home the same way so you and your family can pay for your own
decisions.
Lets disarm the Police as well, they kill more innocent Citizens every week than were killed in
CT.
While we're at it take away oDumbos ARMED Security, Disarm the Secret Service, the ATF
(no, they didn't kill anyone with F&F), The FBI and Cia, hell, the whol government. Let's just
see how that works.
Stop being a Dumba$$ james.
BOOGERRED
A LIKE REPLY 25 minutes ago in reply to James Donnaught F
Deport all those who don't like the Constitution to some other country of their choice.
AUNTIELIB
A LIKE 3 minutes ago in reply to auntielib F
you know the real patriots want to make this a better country
as thomas jefferson said "No work of man is perfect. I t is inevitable that, in the course
of time, the imperfections of a written Constitution will become apparent. Moreover,
the passage of time will bring changes in society which a Constitution must
accommodate..."
JEEZO
Let's start with you since the first, fourth, and eighth amendments are obviously
flexible for right wingers.
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A LIKE 18 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight F
And the 9th and 10th amendments are non existent to Leftnuts.
TEXSON
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The reflexive "blame guns" attitude that arises after each one of these incidents is simplistic and misguided, and
does nothing to address the underlying cause of such violence. The focus has to properly be on greater mental
health awareness; that's the only way we're going to have meaningful progress in terms of stopping such
tragedies in the future. You don't have to be a psychiatrist to understand that, as a preliminary matter,
emotionally well and mentally healthy people do not commit acts such as this. In almost every one of these
tragedies, the culprit expressed, in some manner, either profoundly disturbing behavior that was observed by
people on a repeated basis, and/or some form of communicated distress that could be construed as an indirect
plea for help. Yet, no one intervened. Granted, mental health is a complex issue because the signs of
deterioration and instability are often hidden and don't always manifest themselves in an overt manner, but, as a
society and as individuals, we have to start exercising greater sensitivity with respect to the emotional states
and mental conditions of people around us that we interact with on a regular basis -- at schools, workplaces,
and in our homes.
The politicians should be concentrating on promoting a g reater understanding among the public with respect to
how to spot people who are exhibiting signs of mental health problems, and should be encouraging the people
best placed to intervene -- co-workers, friends, teachers and family members -- to do so. Easier said than done,
perhaps, but, we have to start somewhere.
GUYJONES
A LIKE REPLY 45 minutes ago 1 Like F
"Dem Lawmaker: Obama Must 'Exploit' School Shooting To Get Gun Control"
Everything with these purveyors of hate involve propaganda in order to fulfill their agenda, which they can't
openly express, because it is so abhorrent to the vast majority.
The community organizer presents a docile, likeable demeanor, but he is deceitful to his very co re. It's his
nature to be that way.
The loonies on the left are going to be fought tooth and nail, but it' s a very difficult fight when they have ALL the
organs of communication echoing their political agenda and helping to distort the facts and engender hatred for
anyone opposed to their perversions.
The one decisive halt to their evil agenda would be a severe recession where the mobs take to the streets,
making them so pre-occupied totally with preventing large scale armed conflict they don't have time topropagandize.
Yes, they will try to use chaos as justification for martial law, but martial law against 200 million citizens armed to
the teeth in an area that's 1500 miles wide and 3000 miles long is an effort in futility.
Their military and police forces number only about a couple million people. That's way to few to control mass
uprisings over such a large area. Also, the government's own personnel will break along lines of politics and
ethnicity, which is expected in any violent repercussions against totalitarianism that involves a tribal society.
HORSEMAN43
A LIKE REPLY 49 minutes ago F
Well since conservatives think sexual assault is Gods will what's their stance on murder? Obviously much the
same since they won't have a common sense or rational argument about guns(or anything else for that
matter)which were the deciding factor in this tragedy. No gun, no death.
JNBSTRAIGHT
Guns were hardly the deciding factor.
Let's be rational then. Why do some people do this? Are they motivated to kill merely because of the
existence of guns? If not, what then? Guns were the means for a suicidal person to go out in a wave of
publicity. Aha. You could just as well argue that the guaranteed mass publicity motivated the mass
killing.
No mass publicity, no death.
It'd therefore make as much sense to restrict First Amendment rights by the press to report on such
events.
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A LIKE REPLY 32 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight 1 Like F
http://www.powerlineblog.com/a...
Perhaps one thing we can agree on is that there seems to be a spike recently in such suicidal people.
Is it a symptom perhaps of something else going on in our society?
A LIKE REPLY 40 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight 3 Likes F
YOU have NO idea what conservatives think, as you prove over and over.
SAILCAT
A LIKE REPLY 34 minutes ago in reply to sailcat F
I don't? Part of the GOP platform was no exceptions for abortion and it was rationalized by a
candidate that you supported and defended as "God's Will" In fact he wasn't the first candidate
to say that either. i recall Sharon Angle saying much the same.
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE 12 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight F
and this has what to do with amendment #2?
EELECTRON
A LIKE 29 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight 1 Like F
Bulls*it. You kill millions of black babies a year and force public funding for PlannedParenthood which was created for the purposes of ethnic cleansing, and still turns a
billion dollar profit each year... and you make it seem like WE have something to
apologize for? You're sick! Is it better fo r Obama to leave abortion survivors to die in
the hallway? (Because he voted for that.)
And you still avoid the central issue - is a fe tus a human life? because if it is, you
should protect it. Or, do you only extend the courtesy of humanity to kids k-12?
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE REPLY 41 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight 2 Likes F
How inane and ugly.
MYANGLE
A LIKE REPLY 45 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight 2 Likes F
I don't know any conservative that thinks sexual assault is anything but evil.
But I do see a Leftist, trying to smear his political opposition but making an irrelevant reference to
something an insignificant rep at a state house said 6 months ago, about a completely unrelated topic.
Idiots will always be idiots... but it takes a special kind of idiot to quote them and use them like you do.
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE REPLY 21 minutes ago in reply to john_robinson F
Outstanding. These smarms think they're brilliant but never take the next logical step or
ponder the consequences of their feel good reasoning, emotion based.
INFINITE5280
A LIKE REPLY 33 minutes ago in reply to john_robinson F
Insignificant rep at a state house? You mean the entire pro-life movement and numerous
senate candidates, one who made the statement just two months ago?
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE 6 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight F
Well, you seem to feel that sexual assault is alright as long as the woman in question
is conservative, so I don't think you can criticize that harshly.
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A LIKE REPLY 1 minutes ago 2 Likes F
Yes this was a tragic case. The facts are this: Most gun crimes are caused by thugs and repeat offenders.
Where are these crimes predominantly committed. Deep in the heart of liberal sanctuaries where gun laws are
the most restrictive. You need to have a serious look at the emotion based solutions you want to hoist upon this
country to make you feel good.
Please read the founding fathers discussions about gun rights please. For it is those without this right who suffer
most. Hell just post more "Gun Free" signs, that will fix it!!!
So if we make guns illegal that will get them off the street?
Let's make heroin, crack and meth illegal too.
EELECTRON
A LIKE REPLY 46 minutes ago in reply to eelectron F
gun control doesn't equal gun ban. And since you keep bringing up the founding fathers, how about we
make legal just the guns that were available at that time. I think that would minimize the damage of a
lot of these shootings if the shooter could only take 1 shot every minute
JYD123
A LIKE REPLY 27 minutes ago in reply to jyd123 F
hahaha gun control doesn't equal a gun ban? Please cite for me one instance where the Left
has achieved "gun control" and it did not equal a defacto ban.
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE REPLY 31 minutes ago in reply to jyd123 F
No, how about if you "progressives" come up with some USEFUL ideas and proposals for a
change?
Your "gun free zone" idea has turned out to be intellectual schitt, as have all your earlier "gun
control" proposals and laws.
AUNTIELIB
A LIKE REPLY 34 minutes ago in reply to jyd123 1 Like F
You mean like the inner-city gangsters? As if they'd turn there semi-autos in for single shots.
Stop the emotional tirades...please! You're only making it worse.
Let's dis-invent the atomic bomb!! How bout that B-52? Hell, let's just go back to horses.
Where did you get these " reasoning skills"?
INFINITE5280
A LIKE REPLY 48 minutes ago in reply to eelectron F
in your daily routine how often do you have to take out your gun to protect your rights from the evil
tyrants that rule your neighborhood?
JEEZO
A LIKE REPLY 24 minutes ago in reply to jeezo F
Thankfully, AT THE PRESENT TIME, I don't. But MY P-8 is locked up in a safe and if I need
to, I'll take it out and use it, Just like my German American father did in WWII.
INFINITE5280
A LIKE 9 minutes ago in reply to infinite5280 F
i'm sure the army provided him with a weapon.
JEEZO
All it takes is one day when some goth walks into your classroom and starts gunning down
your young students, I suppose.
I guess what YOU are saying is that YOU wouldn't want to personally own and carry a gun
until the SECOND time a goth did that to your classroom full of kids, huh?
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A LIKE REPLY 34 minutes ago in reply to jeezo F
Wow.
A LIKE 18 minutes ago in reply to auntielib F
Some goth? Yes, yes, let's lock up all the kids in black clothes too! You are some
piece of work.
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE REPLY 40 minutes ago in reply to jeezo 1 Like F
How many times does it take for an "evil tyrant" to kill you?
Once is too many, don't you think?
Your reasoning is apparently limited to pablum style arguments.
WILLVMI68
A LIKE 17 minutes ago in reply to WillVMI68 F
Apparently JNBSTRAIGHT is of the opinion, "If I can't defend my loved ones against
all of them, I won't try to defend my loved ones against any of them."
Wow, such depth of logical reasoning is on display by these knuckle-dragging
"progressives" in this thread....
AUNTIELIB
A LIKE 30 minutes ago in reply to WillVMI68 F
yes, because a 9mm pistol is a match for an entire army.
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE REPLY 43 minutes ago in reply to jeezo 2 Likes F
Right - and because you or this person may not have a need, then no one else could possibly
have a need and you can just do what you want without consequence? Put down the cheese
curls and go outside and play - mommy needs her computer to do work.
(And it's a good thing you don't live in Chicago.)
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE REPLY 1 minutes ago 1 Like F
We already have gun control in this country. I can't buy a machine gun or a rocket launcher here. If they decide
to make semi/automatic weapons illegal, I won't lose any sleep over it. As technology improves it's only logical
we re-examine what guns should be legal and what guns shouldn't. If in 100 years a pistol is invented that can
shoot from 1,000 miles (hypothetically of course) away with perfect accuracy and rip through tank armor, I'm
pretty sure most people would want that illegal.
The question is does gun control lead to complete gun ban? I don't think it does, nor do I think it should, we
have too many guns in circulation for to make any difference anyways. I simply think its natural that as weapons
get more powerful our society continually re asses what should be legal and what shouldn't.
JYD123
I find it fascinating that the self-styled "progressives" lack even the IQ to ask the most fundamental questions in
life, such as "Why does Evil exist?" or "Why does Good exist?" It would seem those they haven't evolved
sufficiently that those questions ever occur to them. It is like "progressives" are some sort of sub-human
species.
Even more fascinating are those inadequately-evolved "progressives" who deny the existence of moral
absolutes. Those same sensate simians then turn around and feign moral outrage at the slaughter of a
classroom full of young children. Those knuckle-dragging "progressives" don't even recognize their illogical
inconsistency when they make a moral judgment like that.
Put enough "progressives" in a room, each in front of a typewriter, and I suppose one of them will eventually
pound out, "This is a Gun Free Zone". The other Socialist simians will then gather around that clever a pe,
thump their chests, and say "Let's put one of those on every school building in the land!"
Thumping mightily, they will feel they have "made the world a safer place".
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A LIKE REPLY 35 minutes ago in reply to auntielib 1 Like F
Don't look for reason and logic in Progs. They are walking talking hypocrites.
SAILCAT
A LIKE REPLY 38 minutes ago in reply to auntielib F
Ok, tell us why Good and Evil exists since you seem to know the answer to that question? because of
free will of there is god and a devil is not an answer either. And there are no moral absolutes. Right
wingers should know that better than anyone since they barely bat an eye and most actually cheer for
more death when the government suggests bombing some foreign nation that will ultimately claim the
lives of thousands of children and for reasons that are tenuous at best.
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE REPLY 23 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight 1 Like F
"And there are no moral absolutes."
In that case, please stop pretending that you are morally outraged that a classroom full of kids
were gunned down.
AUNTIELIB
A LIKE REPLY 3 minutes ago F
Stupid DISQUS. Doesn't like the word a pe.
Takes a bit of fiddling to figure that out.
AUNTIELIB
A LIKE REPLY 42 minutes ago in reply to auntielib 2 Likes F
That, in itself, is kind of interesting.
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE REPLY 3 minutes ago F
I am a conservative American, voted for Romney, think Obama is Destroying this country, and that he's a true
marxist-muslim. With that said, my heart is breaking for all those innocents MURDERED by a disturbed man
who had ACCESS to guns! SORRY, NO LEFTIST here, and Nadler is a prick, but we MUST have some control
on hand guns. Forget left, right, in between, 20 babies are KILLED and people are FIGHTING about this s--t!
WE are OUT of control with hand guns, criminals, punks and crazy people have free reign in getting TO them.
God bless all the families in mourning today, let the angles truly guide them into paradise. We don't have it on
EARTH, so they will have it in HEAVEN!
CARSRUS
A LIKE REPLY 31 minutes ago in reply to carsrus 1 Like F
No we need more control of idiots and criminals and murderers and sociopaths ............... ....
INFINITE5280
A LIKE REPLY 32 minutes ago in reply to carsrus 1 Like F
Its not the guns my friend, its the people. We must ask ourselves the hard questions about the
coarsening and degradation of our society.
SAILCAT
A LIKE REPLY 39 minutes ago in reply to carsrus F
According to FBI crimes statistics, over 50,000 innocent people are protected from assaults, rapes, and
homicides every year by people legally carrying firearms... will you mourn those people, too, when you
leave them defenseless... or does your sympathy only get worked up over progressive politics?
JOHN_ROBINSON
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A LIKE REPLY 48 minutes ago in reply to carsrus F
You're a brave man to say that here. I commend you for your stance.
A LIKE REPLY 41 minutes ago in reply to jnbstraight F
Regardless of how stupid it is. Why not give him a trophy? That's what lefties do to each other
to show their approval, right?
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE 3 minutes ago in reply to john_robinson F
Yes, if it comes down to it, my 12 guage may in fact stop the govt from tyrannizing
me. And if everything hits the fan and there is an armed insurrection - would you
rather have a gun or not have a gun? I'd rather YOU didn't.
Being on guard against tyranny is never irrelevant. This is how you Progressives do it
every time... you laugh at the idea that you could possibly ever become a tyrant. But
you do, you always do. First you start telling people what they can eat or drink, then
telling them when they can receive healthcare, then you take away their guns, then
you start spying on citizens without warrants or oversight, next thing you know the
President has kill lists with citizens on it that get exterminated by executive order
without trial or any kind of due process.
What could we possibly have to worry about? You lefties always have the BEST of
intentions.
JOHN_ROBINSON
A LIKE 26 minutes ago in reply to john_robinson F
No, stupid is thinking their isn't a problem with guns after numerous massacres this
past year and refusing to even have a conversation about it. Your 12 gauge and 9mm
pistol isn't going to stop the government from tyrannizing you. They already are in a
lot of ways and i don't even see a street protest let alone an armed insurrection. face
it, the rationale for the second amendment when it was written is now irrelevant.
JNBSTRAIGHT
A LIKE REPLY 6 minutes ago F
Thumping mightily, they will feel they have "made the world a safer place".
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