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September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 1
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
IEEEIEEEStandards Association Standards Association
IEEE, ETSI, and Bluetooth MeetingAugust 31, 1999
Monarch Hotel Washington DC USA
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SA Standards Board Chairman
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 2
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Meeting Goal & Agenda• Goal
– The goal of the meeting would be to see to that there is a possibility for the three of us (Bluetooth, ETSI and IEEE) to cooperate and to write down an action list.
• Agenda 5:00pm to 8:00pm– Short update and participants goals– How could IEEE, ETSI and Bluetooth cooperate to
reach goals– What are the related next steps
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 3
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
IEEE: An Overview• IEEE Established in 1884 (AIEE & IRE)
• IEEE Dec98 Membership was 334,811; 66% USA & 33% Non-USA
• IEEE produces 30 percent of the world's published literature in electrical engineering, computers and control technology,
• IEEE holds annually more than 300 major conferences and
• IEEE has more than 800 active standards with 700 under development.
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 4
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
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IEEE 802 Interfaces
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 5
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
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IEEE 802 Organization
802.3CSMA/CD
Geoff Thompson
802.4TOKEN BUS
Paul Eastman
802.5TOKEN RING
Bob Love
802.6DQDB WAN
Jim Mollenauer
802.7BROADBAND(802.14 Res)
802.8FIBER TAG
Chip Benson
802.9ISLAN
Dhad. Vamen
802.10SECURITYKen Alonge
802.11WIRELESSVic Hayes
802.12DEMAND PRIORITY
Pat Thaler
802.14CABLE-TV
Robert Russell
802.1BRIDGING/ARCH
Bill Lidinsky
802.2LLC
Dave Carlson
WORKING GROUP CHAIRS
VICE CHAIRPaul Nikolich
RECORDING SECHoward Frazier
TREASURERBob Grow
EXECUTIVE SECBuzz Rigsbee
EXEC OFFICERSCHAIR
Jim Carlo
LMSC SPONSOR
Hibernation
Active
Active
802.15WPAN
Bob Heile
802.16BWA
Roger Marks
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 6
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
IEEE 802 Status (Aug1999)• 802.1 VLAN Approved (802.1)Q• 802.2 Hibernation• 802.3 1000BASE-T Approved, 10G Study Group Underway• 802.4 Hibernation• 802.5 High Speed Token Ring• 802.6 Hibernation• 802.7 Hibernation• 802.8 Fiber Guidelines Ballot• 802.9 Hibernation• 802.10 Hibernation• 802.11 Higher Speed Activity Underway• 802.12 Hibernation• 802.14 WG Draft Ballot, Advanced PHY PAR• 802.15 WPAN Task Group, Coexistence Study Group and Marketing Committee
Underway• 802.16 Broadband Access Projects (LMDS). This will also have ETSI coordination
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 7
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
IEEE P802.15 Organization
A d visory C ore
C oexis ten ce S tu d y G rou p (S G )
S tu d y G rou p s
M an ag m en t E n tityL L C S u b layerM A C S u b layerP H Y L ayer
S u b Task G rou p s
Task G rou p 1 (TG 1 )
Task G rou p s
M arke tin g C om m ittee (M C )
C om m ittees
P 8 0 2 .1 5 W G
W G C h a ir
S p on sorIE E E 8 0 2
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 8
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
IEEE 802 Standards Process
You are here
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 9
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Task Group 1 Update
• Where
• What
• When
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 10
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Where - TG1 is here• ~Jun97 - Idea for standard• Mar98 - Find Sponsor• Feb99 - Submit PAR• Mar99 - Approve PAR• Jul99 - Organize working
group• Sep99 - Develop draft
standard• ? - Ballot draft standard• ? - Approve draft standard• ? - Publish approved
standard
You are here
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 11
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
What - TG1 is here
• Write scope and purpose
• Examine related standards and publications
• Draft outline• Fill in outline• Revise, revise, revise• Finalize document
You are here
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 12
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
When - TG1 done by Dec00• ~Jun97 - Idea for standard• Mar98 - Find Sponsor• Feb99 - Submit PAR• Mar99 - Approve PAR• Jul99 - Organize working
group• Sep99 - Develop draft
standard• Nov99 - Ballot draft
standard• Mar00 - Approve draft
standard• Dec00 - Publish approved
standardYou could be here
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 13
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Participant Goals• “Do the right job at the right time." ETSI - IEEE-SA Co-
operative Agreement 21Apr99– Annex1 b) IEEE-SA 802 (Radio LANs), number 3
• IEEE wants to comply to following statement from the Bluetooth SIG:– “Additionally the Bluetooth SIG is currently in discussions
with ETSI to develop a world-wide standard based on Bluetooth that covers the entire Bluetooth capabilities stack. If these discussions go forward, then the Bluetooth SIG would like ETSI and IEEE coordinates their efforts so that both standards interoperate.” Jim Kardach, 15Jul99
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 14
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
How to cooperate
• Scenario Planning– Scenario 1
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 15
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Scenario 1
• Bluetooth v1.0 A Foundation Specification – L1-L7
• Standard– ETSI L3-L7
– IEEE 802 L1-L2
Physical Layer(PHY)
Medium AccessControl (MAC)
Logical Link Control(LLC)
Physical
Data Link
Network
Transport
Session
Presentation
Application7
6
5
4
3
2
1
ISO OSILayers
IEEE 802Standards
Hardware
Software
Transport Control Protocol (TCP)
Internet Protocol (IP)
X.400 and X.500 EMAIL
{= ETSI/IEEE
Interface
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 16
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Scenario 1 (cont.)• Issues
– Prevent consumer and user confusion that could result from non-interoperable specifications, and
– Provide a mechanism to test interoperability between Bluetooth, IEEE, and ETSI solutions by maintaining appropriate testing interfaces.
?
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 17
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Scenario 1 (cont.)
Physical
Data Link
Network
Transport
Session
Presentation
Application
Physical
Data Link
Network
Transport
Session
Presentation
Application
=
Physical
Data Link
Network
Transport
Session
Presentation
Application
=
Specification Standards Development Standards
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 18
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Scenario 1 (cont.)
• Summary– The IEEE feels a cooperative arrangement
could be agreed to by both Standards Development Organizations.
– We would envision IEEE carrying the ETSI standard so users could get both and the same for ETSI by having them carry the IEEE standard.
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 19
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Next Steps• Exchanging of information from the P802.15 e.g., Bluetooth/IEEE
areas, • Accessibility of Bluetooth/IEEE working documents and
Bluetooth/IEEE drafts, and • The nomination of an observer from IEEE P802.15 Working Group to
the relevant ETSI technical body and vice-versa• Sharing Bluetooth/IEEE agendas that contain items of mutual interest• ETSI to commit to the conversion of IEEE P802.15 (OSI/ISO Layer 1
and 2) outputs into ETSI deliverables by a "to be" designated ETSI Technical Body and vice-versa
• If this ETSI Technical Body is inclined then we welcome ETSI Editor assistance in drafting this IEEE P802.15 (OSI/ISO Layer 1 and 2) document(s)
• Recruit ETSI Technical Body Members into IEEE P802.15• Identify ETSI role in the P802.15.1 Draft Comments
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 20
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
Draft Comments - ETSI’s Role?
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 21
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
IEEE: Contact Information• Richard J. Holleman - IEEE Standards Board Chairman
– [email protected]– Tel: +1 914 765 4375
• Donald N. Heirman, NCE, IEEE Standards Board Vice Chairman– [email protected]– Tel: +1 732-741-7723
• Susan Tatiner, Director Standards Publishing Programs– [email protected]– Tel: +1 732 562 3830
• Jerome T. Walker, Manager Business Development– [email protected]– Tel: +1 732 562 3823
• Ian C. Gifford - IEEE P802.15.1 Chair– [email protected]– Tel: +1 978 442 4650
• Tom Siep - IEEE P802.15.1 Editor– [email protected]– Tel: +1 972 480 6786
September 1999
Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 22
doc.: IEEE 802.15-99/087
Submission
IEEE: Additional Information
• IEEE/ETSI 3 year cooperative agreement– http://standards.ieee.org/board/stdsbd/
1998index.html • IEEE General
– http://www.ieee.org/– http://standards.ieee.org/– http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/index.html
• IEEE P802.15 WG– http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/
