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STATE OF ILLINOIS87th GENERAL ASSEMBLYHOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVESTRANSCRIPTION DEBATE

42nd Legislative Day May 1, 1991

Speaker Keane: rThe House will come to order. Members be in your

seats. The Chaplain for today is Dr. Patrick Pajak of the

Tabernacle Baptist Church in Decatur. Dr. Pajak is the

guest oi Representative Dunn. Our guests the galleries

may wish to rise for the invocation./

Dr. Pajak: ''Let us pray. Our Heavenly Father, we're thankful for

the privilege of prayer and to be able to call upon You

today. We ask for the men and women of this House that You

would give them wisdom. Lord, give them fairness and

equity and let that always be tempered with mercy. Lord,

we pray for our men and women, our brave soldiers in the

Gulf, we pray that You would give them a safe and speedy

return. Let a11 the business that is taken care of today

be done in such a fashion that it would praise and honor

and glorify Thee. In Jesus' precious name we pray. Ameno''

Speaker Keane: ''Wefll be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by

Representative Hartkeo''

Hartke et al: HI pledge allegiance to the flag of the United

States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands,

one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justicefor all.''

Speaker Keane: ''Rol1 Call for Attendance. Representative

Matijevich, any excused absences?''

Matijevich: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker, let the record reflect the excused

absence of Monroe Flinn due to his injuriesol

Speaker Keane: ''Representative Kubik.''

Kubik: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let the record reilect the

excused absence of Representative Barnes due to illness.?

Speaker Keane: ''Mr. Clerk, take the record. There are ll5...Mr.

Clerk, take the record. There are ll6 answerinq 'aye'

orum ' is present. Representative Weaver, for anqu

introduction.''

STATE OF ILLINOIS87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVESTRANSCRIPTION DEBATE

42nd Legislative Day

Weaver: ''Ladies and Gentlemen of the House.

May 1, 1991

It's my distinct

pleasure to present to you the Grand Champion Cheerleaders

from Oblong, Illinois. Now, Oblong is not one of the

largest communities in the State of Illinois, but probably

a community with a bunch of the largest hearts and most

giving people in supportive of their school system than

you'll ever find in the State of Illinois, and if the Clerk

would please read the Resolution.''

Clerk Leone: ''House Resolution 393, offered by Representative

Weaver.

HOUSE RESOLUTION

WHEREAS, The cheerleaders at Oblong Elementary School are toq

be congratulated for placing in the top 20 junior high squads lastyear and receiving a trophy for having the most creative routine;

and

WHEREAS, In July of 1990, they became Grand Champions in the

Junior High Division at Indiana University in Bloomington,

Indiana; and

WHEREAS, The squad members have been encouraged by their

sponsors, who attended ICF camp aldng with the students and went

to the sessions with them; and

WHEREAS, Community support has been very important to the

cheerleaders; and

WHEREAS, Karen Sweat, cheerleading sponsor, and her assistant:

Donna Henry, have provided leadership and encouragement to the

girls; and

WHEREAS, The cheerleaders are: Shannon Newcomb, a member of

High Honor Roll; Kristi Davis, a member of Flag and Rifle Corps;

Stacy Jennings, a talented softball pitcher; Krissy Neidigh, a

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member oi the Knowledge Master Team; Kendra Paddick, a high honors

student; Kamee Hoke, an All-star Team baseball player; Michelle

Smith, a Beta Club member; Niki Murray, a member of the Knowledge

Master Team; Michelle Hill, a high honors student; and Erin

Glezen, à high honors student; therefore, be

RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE

EIGHTY-SEVENTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, that we

congratulate the Oblong Elementary School cheerleaders on their

fine spirit and success; that we commend the community for

supporting these young women; and that we wish all of the students

continuing success; and be it further

RESOLVED, That suitable copies of this preamble and resolution

be presented to each of the cheerleaders and to their sponsors.''

Weaver: ''Thank you, Mr. Clerk. I would like to have the, the

coach of the team introduce them individually to you,

however, I think most apropos that the coach of the

name (sic-team) is Mrs. Sweat, so Mrs. Sweat would like to

introduce her girls to you.''

Sweat: ''Thank you. Thank you. want to mention my helper,

Donna Henry, right here. I don't know if you can see her

for the girls. This is Donna Henry, my helper, and the

girls, this is Shanna Newcomb, Kristi Davis. They're our

two-eighth graders. We have Michelle Smith in the back.

She's a seventh-grader: and Stacy Jennings. This is Kamee

Hoke. She is Martha Waldrop's granddaughter. This is

Kendra Paddick. She's a seventh-grader. This is Krissie

Neidigh, and she's also a seventh-grader: and Niki Murray,

and we also have Erin Glezen who's a sixth-grader and

Michelle Hill who is Pauline Hill's granddaughter, and

she's also a sixth-grader. So welre losing two of our

girls, and we'll have most of them back for another year,

and so we thank you. This is a real honor.ff

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weaver: ''For those of you who've been here for a little, a little

while, you may remember we've had some other teams from

Oblong here, a community of 1,800 people. We've sent three

teams to national math and science competition and a team

to the national home economics competition. This is a

small school. It disproves the theory that 'bigger is

better'. These gals will also be honorary Pages today so

tip them biq, please. Thank you very much.''

Speaker Keane: HRepresentative Black in the Chair.n

Black: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of

the House. It's my distinct pleasure today to introduce to

you the Schlarman High School from Danville, Illinois,

State Champion Cheerleadrrs and State Champion Pom Pon

Squad, and girls if you could come down in front, I'd, I'd

like all the Members of the House to see what the Oblong

cheerleaders will be like when they set a little older.

This is the high school division. This high school

competes against schools about ten times their size, and

they have a verf, very proud tradition. I think CoachHohen can tell you that this is the tsecond or possibly

third time that they've won the State Championship Small

School Division in the Pom Pon Dance Drill Team

Competition, and the cheerleaders also brought home a state

championship trophy this year, again competing against

schools much larger than they. Mr. Clerk, you'd be kind

enough to read the Resolutions, I would be grateful.?

Clerk Leone: ''First Resolution is House Resolution 190, offered

by Representative Black.

HOUSE RESOLUTION

WHEREAS, The Schlarman High School Varsity Toppettes won first

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place in the Small School Pom Division of the Illinois Drill

Association State Competition on Saturday, March 9, 19912 and

WHEREAS, The State Champion Toppettes competed against Pom

teams from 14 schools across the State, and, with 199 students,

they were the smallest school in the competition; and

WHEREAS, The squad members are: Captain Denise Davis, Captain

Kelly Kochvar, Valarie Htwe, Cathy Schingel, Mary Adeli, Erica

Hammer, Xaren Hill, Kami Kuemmerle, Sara Dolbee, Rhonda Martinek,

Kim Crane, Stephanie Johnson, Tiffany Jones, Megan Beyers, Jodi

Burnett; and Kyla Monfredini; and

WHEREAS, The squad is directed by Brenda Hoehny and it is

supported by Schlarman High School Principal, Mike Ahrens, and

Athletic Director, Mark Goodwin; and

WHEREAS, The members of the team are a credit to their school

and to the State; therefore, be

BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE

EIGHTY-SEVENTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, That we

congratulate the Varsity Toppettes from Schlarman High School on

taking first place in their Pom division; that we commend the team

members for their discipline, hard work, and fine spirit; and that

we wish them a1l the best in their future careers; and be it

further


be presented to the members of the Varsity Toppettes, to Director

Brenda Hoehn. to Principal Ahrens, and to Athletic Director, Mark

Godwin.

Clerk Leone: *...and then further Resolution, House Resolution

339, offered by Representative Black.'r

HOUSE RESOLUTION

RESOLVED,

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WHEREAS, The Schlarman High School Cheerleaders won the State

championship in the Illinois Coaches Association Small Squad

Division at the State Competition on Saturday, March 23, 1991) and

WHEREAS, The State Champion Cheerleaders competed against

teams from schools across the State; and

WHEREAS, The squad members are: Carrie Hoehn, Leslie Brown,

Tricia Shepherd, Michelle Hinote, Susan Smith, Sara Lovejoy, andStephanie Dietzen; and

WHEREAS, The squad is sponsored by Ann Janosik, and is

supported by Schlarman High School Principal, Mike Ahreis, and

Athletic Director, Mark Goodwin; and

WHEREAS, The members of the team are a credit to their school

and to the State; therefore, be it

RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE

EIGHTY-SEVENTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, That we

congratulate the Schlarman High School Cheerleaders on becoming

State champions in their division; that we commend the team

members for their discipline, hard work, and fine spirit; and that

we wish them all the best in their future careers; and be it

further


be presented to the cheerleaders, to Ann Janosik, to Principal

Mike Ahrens, and to Athletic Director Mark Goodwin.''

Black: ''Mr. Clerk, thank you very much. It's my pleasure to

introduce to you the director and sponsor of the, the

Schlarman Toppette Drill Team, Brenda Hoehn, who is, this

is her second state championship. Brenda will introduce

her squad members, and then Ann Janosik, the sponsor of the

Schlarman Cheerleading Squad, will introduce her members,

and I think Representative Matijevich has a good idea.

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Perhaps you could lead us in a cheer, but we'll see.

Brenda.'f

Ms. Hoehn: ''Thank you, Bill. It's a real pleasure and honor to

be here with you today and we thank you for this

opportunity. It's with great pride that 1 introduce to you

the Varsity State Championship Toppettes: Kelly Coachbabr,

Denise Davis, Kathy Shingle, Valerie Tway: Karen Hill,

Sarah Dalby, Ericka Hammer, Mary Odley, Kammy Kimmerly, Kim

Crane, Rhonda Martinek, Tiffany Jones, Stephanie Johnson,

Megan Byers, Jodie Bernette, and Kyla Monferdini.''

Janosik: ''The Schlarman Hiqh School Cheerleaders are Susan Smith,

Leslie Brown, Michelle Hinote, Tricia Shepherd, Stephanie

Dietzen, Carrie Hoehn, and Sarah Lovejoy. Did you girlswant to do a quick cheer for the fellows here? Quickly,

they have business to conclude. Thank you very much for

having us here today. We really appreciate it. You got

one? Okay. Thank you very much for giving us part of your

day.n

Black: ''I just want to say that you people are more intimidating

than the judges were, but thank you for your attention.

It's always a pleasure to bring you a little sunshine from

Danville. Thank you.''

Speaker Keane: ''On Page 45, Mr. Clerk, Consent Calendar, Second

Reading.''

Clerk Leone: ''Consent Calendar, Second Reading, Second Day.

House 3i1l 331, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal

Identification Act, together with House Amendments 41 and

2. House Bill 497, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of

Criminal Procedure. House Bill 515, a Bill for an Act to

amend the Illinois Police Training Act. House Bill 606, a

Bill for an Act in relationship to criminal social workers,

together with House Amendment #l. House Bill 1159, a Bill

for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Act. House

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Bill 1218, a Bill for an Act to amend the Family Practices

Residency Act, together with House Amendment #l. House

Bill 1286, a Bill for an Act in relationship to heiqht of

certain structures. House Bill 1415, a Bill for an Aci to

amend the Criminal Code. House Bill 1418, a Bill for an

Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections, together with

House Amendment #l. House Bill 1750, a Bill for an Act to

amend the Public Utilities Act. House Bill' 2075, a Bill

for an Act to amend the Criminal Code, together with House

Amendment #l. House Bill 2366, a 3ill for an Act to amend

the Code of Civil Procedure, together with House Amendment

#1. House Bill 2494, a Bill for an act to amend the

condominium Property Act. House Bill 2557, a Bill for an

Act to amend the Criminal Code, together with House

Amendment #1 and House Bill 2591, a Bill for an Act to

amend the Hospital District Law, together with House

Amendment Second Reading of these Bills.o

Speaker Keane: ''Third Reading. Representative Balanoff, for what

purpose do you rise?''

Balanoff: HMr. Speaker, to introduce a very special guest who's

here with us today, our Cook County Clerk, David Orr.''

Speaker Keane: ''Welcome, Mr...Mr. Orr, Clerk Orr. We will now go

to the Special Order Calendar, page l of the Special Order

Calendar on State and Local Government, Second Reading.

First Bill on that Order of Business is House Bill 101,

Representative Capparelli. Special Ordey of Business, Mr.

Clerk, read the Bi11.H

Clerk Leone: ''On page 5 of the Calendar, House Bill 101, a Bill

for an Act to amend the Metropolitan Civic Center Act.

Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments 41 and 2 were

adopted in committee.''

Speaker Keane: ''Mr. Clerk, take, take the Bill out of the record.

House Bill 276, Representative Matijevich. Mr...out of the

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record. We are on the Special Calendar, Special Order of

Call, State and Local Government, Second Rqading. House

Bill 391, Representative Wolf. Out of the record. House

Bill 760, Representative Balanoff. Second Reading. Out of

the record. House Bill 832, Representative Brunsvold. Out

of the record. House Bill 970, Representative Wolf. Mr.

Clerk, read the Bi11.''

Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 970, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. There

are no Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Keane: ''Third Reading. House Bill 971, Representative

Wolf. Mr. Clerk, read the Bi11.''

Clerk Leone: PHouse Bill 971, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. There

are no Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Keane: ''Third Reading. House Bill 1078,

Representative...Representative Lang. On House 3il1 1078.

Out of the record. We'll skip over 1079. House Bill 1113,

Representative Giorgi. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Did you

want to call House Bill 1113? Would the Gentleman in front

of Representative Giorgi's desk remove himself? Read the

Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Code of Civil Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill.

Amendment 41 was adopted committee.''

Speaker Keane: ''Any Motions filed?,

Clerk Leone: ''No Motions filed.''

Speaker Keane: ''Any Floor Amendments?''

Clerk Leone: ''Floor Amendment /2 is beinq offered by

Representative Myron Olsono''

Speaker Keane: ''Representative Myron Olson. 'Okay. What is your

wish, Representative Giorgi? Has the Amendment been

printed and distributed, Mr. Clerk? The Amendment has not

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been printed and distributed. Take it out of the record.

House Bill 1538, Representative Marinaro. 1538, out of the

record. House Bill 1584, Representative Wyvetter Younge.

Mr. Clerk, read the Bi11.*

Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 1584, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act

in rel.o.House Bill 1584, a Bill for an Act in relationship

to township powers. Second Reading of the Bill. There are

no Committee Amendments.''


Clerk Leone: HFloor Amendment 41 is being offered by

Representative Wyvetter Younge.''

Speaker Keane: nRepresentative Younge.''

Younge: ' ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment 41 would, is a

clarifying Amendment to add into the law the authority of

the township to contract with a private entity to

construct, operate and manage a module housin: factory, and

move for the adoption of the Amendment.''

Speaker Keane: ''Is there any discussion? There being none, the

question is, 'Shall Amendment 41 be adopted?' A1l in favor

say 'aye', a1l opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and#

Amendment #1 is adopted. Any further Amendments?''

Clerk Leone: ''There are no further Amendments.''

Speaker Mcpike: ''Third Reading. House Bill 1587, Representative

Lou Jones. Representative Wyvetter Younge, for what

purpose do you rise?''

Younge: ''There is a fiscal note that is, that will be in that 1,

1, before it's moved to Third Reading.H

Speaker Keane: ''Has there been a request on this Bill for a

tiscal note?''

Clerk Leone: ''A fiscal note has been requested.''

Speaker Keane: ''...and has not been filed. The Bill will remain

in Second Reading. Thank you.''

Younqe: ''Thank you.''

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Speaker Keane: ''House Bill 1587, Representative Lou Jones. Out

of the record. House Bill 1685, Representative LeFlore.

Mr. Clerk, read the Bi1l.''

Clerk Leone: HHouse Bill 1685, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act

in relationship to Metropolitan Transit Authority

employees. Secbnd Reading of the Bill. There are no

Committee or Floor Amendments.n

Speaker Mcpike: ''Third Reading. House Bill 1699, Representative

Santiago. Out of the record. House Bill 1700,

Representative Santiago. Out of the record. House Bill

1776, Representative Curran. Out of the record.

House 3il1 1871, Representative Giorgi. Out of the

record. House Bill 2039, Representative Bugielski. Out of

the record. House Bill 2040: Representative Bugielski.

Out of the record. House Bill 2045, Representative Steczo.

Out of the record. House Bill 2186, Representative

Trotter. Out of the record. House Bill 2197,

Representative Brunsvold. Out of the record. House Bill

2255, Representative Matijevich. Mr. Clerk, read theBill.''


State Police Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment

41 was adopted in committee.''

Speaker Keane: ''Any Motions filed?''

Clerk Leone: ''No Motions filedo''

Speaker Keane: HAny Floor Amendments??

Clerk Leone: HNo Floor Amendments.''


Hensel. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.H

Clerk Leone: HHouse Bill 2385, a Bill for an Act to amend the

State Finance Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are

no Committee or Floor Amendments.p


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Hannig. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.>

clerk Leone: 'House Bill 2553, a Bill for an Act to amend the

compensation Review Act. Second Reading of the Bill.

There are no Committee or Floor Amendments.''


Homer. House Bill 2660...Mr. Clerk, 2633. Mr. Clerk, read

the Bill.''

clerk Leone: ''House Bill 2633, a Bill for an Act concerning the,

the quincentenary of the discovery of America. Second

Reading of the Bill. Amendment 91 was adopted in

committee.''

Speaker Keane: ''Any Motions filed?''

clerk Leone: ''No Motions iiled..''


clerk Leone: ''No Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Keane: ''Third Reading. Third Reading. On page 2 of the

Special Order of, Special Order Calendar, we're following

this right now, Ladies and Gentlemen. Special Order

Calendar, page 2. On the top of page 2 is the Special Order

of Labor, Second Reading. First, first take 589 on that

Order, Representative Curran. Representative Curran.

We're on the Order of Labor. Your House Bill 589. Out of

the record. House Bill 595, Representative Rotello. Mr.

Clerk, read the Bill.n

clerk Leone: 'House Bill 595, a Bill for an Act in relationship

to employer provided health care. Second Reading of the

Bill. Amendment 41 was adopted in committee.''

Speaker Keane: ''Any Motions filed?o

clerk Leone: ''No Motions filed.''

Speaker Keane: ''Any Floor Amendments?r'

Clerk Leone: ''No Floor Amendments.H


Ronan. Out of the record. House Bill 1843, Representative

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Kirkland. Mr. Clerk, read the Bi1l.H

Clerk Leone: nHouse Bill 1843, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Readin: of the Bill.


Speaker Keane: ''Third Reading. House Bill 2017. Move House Bill

1813 to Third Reading, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 2017,

Representative Trotter. Out of the record. House Bill

2074, Representative Currie. Out of the record. House

Bill 2100, Representative McGuire. Mr. Clerk, read the

B i 1 l . ''

C1e r k Leone : ''House B i l l 2100 , a B i l l f or an Ac t relat i on sh ip

to work place l i teracy . Second Reading of the Bi 11. There

are no Commi ttee Amendment s . ''

Spea ke r Keane : ''Any Floor Amendment s? ''

Clerk Leone : ''Floor Amendment #1 i s be ing of fered by

Representat i ve Klemm . ''

S ea ke r Keane : ''Repr' e sen ta t i ve Klemm . Repre sen ta t i ve McGu i re ,#

what ' s your wi shes on . . . R

Klemm : ''Mr . Speake r , Ladies and Gent lemen of the House . 1 have

no knowledge of the Amendment . I s the Gentleman here that

li kes to make the Amendment? 'f

Speaker Keane : ''The Gent leman i s not w i th us . Do you wi sh to

move to table? ''

Klemm : ''Move to table . Yes , S i r . ''

Speaker Keane : H'Phe Gentleman moves to table Amendment All

those in f avor say ' aye ' all opposed ' no ' . The f ayes '#

have it, and Amendment 41 is tabled. Any further

Amendments?''

Clerk Leone: ''No further Amendments./

Speaker Keane: 'Third Reading. House Bill 2104, Representative

Delaegher. Out of the record. House Bill 2177,

Representative Hasara. Representative Hasara. Do you wish

to have your Bill called on Second Reading? 2177. Out of

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the record. We will now go to Second Reading on page 2 of

the, today's Special Calendar, Special Order of Call, Human

Services, Second Reading. Representative Giglio in the

Chair./

Speaker Giglio: 'fon the Special Order Calendar, page 6, appears

House Bill 274, Special Order of Human Services.

Representative White in the chamber? Out of the record,

Mr. Clerk. 329, Representative McAfee. Out of the record.

Representative Stern, 715. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.''

Clerk Leone: 'House Bill 715, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act

in relationship to Inspector General. Second Reading of

the Bill. Amendment 41 was adopted in committee.H

Speaker Giglio: 'Any Motions filed?/

Clerk Leone: ''No Motions filed.''

speaker Giglio: ''Any Floor Amendments? Representative Stern,

there is a request for a fiscal note. We'll have to take

it out of the record. Representative Schakowsky, 760, 761.

Representative Schakowsky in the chamber? Out of the

record. 954, the Majority, Minority Leader, Representative

Daniels. Out of the record. Representative Richmond,

House Bill 1160. Out of the record. Delaegher, 1230.

Representative Delaeiher in the chamber? Out of therecord. I'm sorry. Representative Delaegher, House Bill

1230. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.''

Clerk Leone: ''House 3ill 1230, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act

concerning Children of Alcoholic Parents. Second Readin:

of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments,

and the fiscal note that was requested has been withdrawn.

The request has been withdrawnp''

Speaker Giglio: ''No Floor àmendments, no Motions. Third Reading.

Representative Buqielski, 1408. Out of the record.

Representative Hicks, 1565. Representative Hicks. Out of

the record. Representative Frederick, Virginia Frederick,

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House 3i11 1623. It's on Second Reading. You want to hear

it? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. 1623./


concerning domestic abuse of adults. Second Reading of the

Bill. There are no Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any Floor Amendments?''

Clerk Leone: ''Floor Amendment 41 is beinq offered by

Representative Frederick.'f

Frederick: ''Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of

the House. House 3ill 1623 provides a beginning of

protection from abuse of a disabled adult. Amendment 41

states that the Act will be implemented when funds become

available, but in the interim, the Department of

Rehabilitation Services shall take reasonable steps to

provide protection when they receive a report of abuse.

move adoption of Amendment #1.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on the Amendment? Hearing none,

all those in favor of the Amendment signify by saying,

'aye', opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the

'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further

Amendments.f'

Clerk Leone: ''Floor Amendment 42 offered by Representative

Virginia Frederick.,

Speaker Giglio: nRepresentative Frederick.''

Frederick: ''Yes. Amendment 42 just provides a reports of abuse

which may be heard during normal business hours and if

after normal business hours when the agency's equipped with

an automatic, automated telephone recording device. I move

adoption of Amendment 42.''


all those in favor of the Amendment signify by saying

'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the


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Amendments.''

Clerk Leone: *No further Amendments.ff

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 1644, Representative

Shirley Jones. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk.

Representative Levin, 1804. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.''

clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1804, a Bill for an Act to amend the

lllinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill.

Amendment 41 was adopted in committee.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any Motions filed?''

Clerk OlBrien: ''No Motions filed.''


Clerk O'Brien: ''No Floor Amendments.''


Granberg. Representative Granberg, 1854. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''


Medical Practice Act. Second Reading of the Bill.''

Speaker Giglio: lcommittee Amendments, Committee Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Repres.e.Representative

Burzynski, 1908. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Out of

the record. Wyvetter Younge, 1930. Out of the record.

This is a Committee 3i1l, Representative White, 1940. Out

of the record. Representative Hicks, 2010. Ambulance

payments. House Bill 2010. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2010, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Illinois Public Aid Code.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Hicks, there's a fiscal note

requested on this Bill, so take it out of the record, Mr.

Clerk.,

Speaker Giglio: HRepresentative Steczo, 2050. Out of the record.

Representative McGuire, 2123. Application ior medical

exam. Out of the record. Out. Representative DeLeo.

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Representative McGann, 2162. Representative McGann. Out

of the record. Representative Trotter, 2232. Out of the

record, Mr. Clerk. House 3ill 2234. Mr. Clerk, read the

3ill.''


Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading oi the Bill. No

Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: f'Third Reading. Representative Levin. House

Bill 2317. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk OlBrien: ''House Bill 2317, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Disabled Persons Rehabilitation Act. Second Reading of the

3ill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee.''


Clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions filed, no Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Pullen, House

Bill 2400. Is the Lady in the chamber? Out of the record.

Representative Satterthwaite, 2446. Mr. Clerk, read the

Bill.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2446, a Bill for an Act in relation to

health services. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee

Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: 'fAre there any Floor Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No Floor Amendmentso''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Currie, 2452.

Impact Study, Public Aid Impact Study. Out of the record.

Representative Walsh, 2464. Representative Walsh. Out of

the record, Mr. Clerk. Representative Rotello, 2466.

Would you like that Bill called, Mr. Rotello? 2466, Public

Aid Inclusive Care Act. Out of the record. Representative

Capparelli. Representative Capparelli in the chamber? Out

of the record. Representative Laurino. Out of the record,

Mr. Clerk. Representative Laurino on House Bill 2471,

Partnership Long Term Care Act. Out of the record.

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Representative Curran, 2508 and 2510. Mr. Clerk, read

2 50 8 . ''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2508, a Bill for an Act to amend an

Act concerning long care, lonq term care facilities.

Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee or Floor

Amendmentswn

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Curran, 2510.

Out. Who? Representative Currie, 2510. Fiscal note has

not been filed. Out of the record. Alright, on the

Regular Order of Calendar on page 22, the Regular Calendar

of Business appears House Bill, Second Reading, 2100.

Representative McGuire. House Bills, Second Reading,

Regular Calendar, page 22. House àill 2100. Do you wish

to call that? Mr. Clerk, read the Bil1.''

clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2100, a Bill for an Act in relation to

work place literacy. Second Reading of the Bi11.''

Speaker Giglio: ''20...2100 was acted on a Special Order,

Representative McGuire, so take out. Representative

Black.''

Black: ''I thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. You gonna take the#

Bill out of the record?''

Speaker Giglio: Nlt, it was already moved to Third. It was on

Special Order. It's gone. It's on Third Reading.''

Black: ''Okay, well, what, what...''

Speaker Giglio: ''We're on the Order of Second, Second Reading, on

the Regular Calendar, page 22.%

Black: ''Alright, but did, did you take this Bill back to Second

Reading or you just had it up there by mistake?''

Speaker Giglio: ''No. We had it up there by mistake.H

Black: ''Alright. That's too bad because 1, Representative Klemm

had a really good Amendment that was going to try to

carry for him but somehow, don't think you're gonna

1et me do that are yourl

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Speaker Giglio: f'We1l, we can: you can do that on Third Reading.''

Black: ''You're very kind. Thank you: Mr. Speaker.''

Speaker Giglio: ''House Bill 2104, Representative Delaegher.

Representative Delaegher. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk.

2105, Representative Balanoff. Out of the record.

Representative, you want to roll it? 2105, Mr. Clerk.

Read the Bi11.*

Clerk O'Brien: f'House Bill 2105, a Bill for an Act to amend an

Act concerning occupational health clinics. Second Reading

of the Bill. Amendment 41 was adopted in committee.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Are there any Motions filed?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Sieben, House

Bill 2106. Mr. Clerk, read the Bil1.''


Illinois Securities Law. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representativ'e Keane, 2106,

2108. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: nHouse Bill 2108, a Bill for an Act in relation to

compensation of banks by the State Treasurer. Second

Reading of the Bill. No Committee or.Floor Amendments.'

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative McAfee, 2110.

Out of the record. Representative Saltsman, 2112. Out of

the record. Representative Lou Jones, 2118. Lou Jones.

Out of the record. Representative McGuire, 2123. Out of

the record. Representative Regan, 2125. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: 'House Bill 2125, a Bill for an Act to amend an

Act in relation to cannabis controlled substances. Second

Reading of the Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments./

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Petka, 2130.

2130. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.p

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42nd Leqislative Day May 1, 1991


Criminal Code. Sécond Reading of the Bill. No Committee

or Floor Amendments.f'

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Santiago:

Santiago, House Bill 2135. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerko''


the investment of public moneys. Second Reading of the

3il1. No Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: HThird Reading. Representative Phelan, House

Bill 2139. 2139. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Cemetery Care Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Keane, House Bill



Revised City and Villages Act. Second Reading of the Bill.

No Committee or Floor Amendments.n

Speaker Giglio: RThird Reading. House Bill 2148, Representative

Keane. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


lllinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative McGann, 2149.

Representative Andrew McGann. Out of the record, Mr.

Clerk. Representative Turner, 2151. Out of the record.

2152. Out of the record. 2160, Representative Munizzi.

DeLeo, 2160. Out of the record. 2164, Representative

Tprner. 2164, Art. Out of the record. Representative

Laurino, 2165. Out of the record. Representative

Wennlund, zl...Laurino, 2165. Do you wish to have that

Bill called? An Act concerning adult education. Well:

we'll come back to it. Representative Wennlund, 2168. Mr.

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Clerk, read the Bill.''


Act relating to the change in school district boundaries.

Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Are there any Floor Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''Floor Amendment #l, offered by Representative

Wennlund.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Wennlund.''

Wennlund: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. Amendment 41 really changes the number of days for

the Regional Superintendent to hear a petition for a change

in boundaries from 90 days to 9 months as was requested

when the Bill was hear in committee. I ask for the

adoption of the Amendment.''

Speaker Giqlio: ''Any discussion on the Amendment? Hearing none,


'aye', opposed 'nay'. the opinion of the Chair, the


Amendmentso'

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative McGann, 2169.

Out of the record. House Bill 2173, Anthony Young.

Representative Anthony Young. Out of the record.

Representative Persico, 2174. Out of the record.

Representative Hasara, 2177. Out of the record.

Representative Hoffman, Manny Hoffman, 2181. Amends the

State Financial Act. Out of the record. Representative

Lang, 2184. Representative Lang. Out of the record.

Representative Trotter, zo...Representative Lang. Excuse

me, Mr. Clerk, 2184. Read the 3il1.''


Illinois Anti-Trust Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No

Committee or Floor Amendments.'

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Trotter. Fiscal note required. Out of the record. House

Bill 2190, Representative Currie. Representative Currie on

2190. Amends the Income Tax Act. Are there any Amendments

on file on this? 2190, Mr. Clerk. No Amendments. Read

the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Illinois Income Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill.


Speaker Giglio: ''Any Motions filed?'

Clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions iiled. No Floor Amendments.o


Lang. 2191. Out of the record. Representative Currie,

2193. Out of the record. 94, 2194. Out of the record.

Representative Brunsvold, 2197. Amends the Fire Equipment

Distributor Act. Out of the record. Representative

Currie, 2200. Out of the record. Representative Hannig,

2201. Amends the School Code. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2201, a Bill for an Act to amend

sections of the School Code. Second Reading oé the Bill.

No Committee or Floor Amendments.ff

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Kirkland, 2206.

Read the Bill.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2206...''

Speaker Giglio: ''Mr. Clerk, take it out. Take it out of the

record. House Bill 2208, Representative Lang. Out of the

record. Representative Curran, 2222. Out of the record.

Jesse White. Representative Kirkland, 2211. Want to read

the Bill, Sir? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.f'

Clerk O'Brien: ''House 3ill 2211, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Mechanics Lien Act. Second Readinq oi the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Schakowsky, 2228.

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Read the Bill, Mr. Clerko''


Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment 41

was adopted in committee.''


clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.p

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. 2224, Representative Granberg.

2232, Representative Trotter. 0ut of the...2236,

Representative Trotter. Out of the record. Representative

Williams, 2239. Amends the Civil Code of Procedure. Out

of the record. Representative McAfee, 2240. Mr. Clerk,

read the Bi11.O

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2240, a 3il1 for an Act to amend the

Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Anthony Young,

2242. Representative Anthony Young. Out of the record.

Representative Currie, 2243. Out of the record. 2244, out

of the record. Kulas, 2250. Byron Kulas. Out oi the

record. Matijevich, Representative Matijevich, 2255. Mr.Clerk, read the Bill. It's already moved on a Special

Order. Representative Flowers. Representative Flowers in

the chamber? House Bill 2266. Amends the Code of Civil

Procedure. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Code of Civil Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No

Committee or Floor Amendmentso''

Speaker Giglio: 'fout, out of the record? You want all these out

of the record? 2266, 67, 68, 69, 70. Time out.

Representative McGann, 2281. 0ut of the record.

Representative Santiago. Out of the record.

Representative White. Out of the record. Representative

Stepan. Representative Stepan. House Bill 2295. Read the

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Bill, Mr. Clerk. No, out of the record.

record. Lead poisoning, out of the record. Representative

Hoffman, Jay Hoffman, 2307. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.p


Unified Code of Corrections. Second Reading of the Bill.




Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Steczo, 2309.

Out of the record. 2314, Wyvetter Younge. Mr. Clerk, read

the Bil1.''


Public Community College Act. Second Reading of the Bill.

No Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Burke, House Bill

2315. Amends the Criminal Code. Representative Burke.

2315, amends the Criminal Code. Read the 3i1l, Mr. Clerk.''


sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill.

No Committee or Floor Amqndments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Alright. Mr. Clerk, the

Gentleman moves to bring it back to the Order of Second

Reading and take out oi the record. Representative

Levin, 2317, amends the Disability Persons Rehabilitation

Act. Did we do that? Did we do that, Mr. Clerk? 23177

Was it on the Special Order? 2317? It's moved on the

order. Representative Hasara, 2319. Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.''


lnfant Mortality Reduction Act. Second Reading of the

Bili. No Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. paqe 26 of the Calendar on the

Order House Bills Second Reading on the Regular Calendar of

May 1, 1991

Out of the

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Business appears House Bill 2325, Representative Weller.

Representative Weller in the chamber? Out of the record.

House Bill 2329, John Dunn. Representative Dunn in the

chamber? Out of the record. Representative Currie, 2335.

Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Reading of the Bill.


Speaker Giglio: ''Any Motions filed?f

Clerk OfBrien: ''No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Deering, House

Bill 2337. Amends the Public Water District Act. Read the

Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Public Water District Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No

Committee or Floor Amendments./

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Hannig, 2338.

Out of the record. Representative Phelps, 2342. Out of

the record. Representative McGuire, 2349. Act in relation

to state employees. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.,

Clerk O'Brien: ''Hogse Bill 2349, a Bill for an Act in relation to

state employees. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments

41 and 2 were adopted in committee.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any Floor Amendments, or any Motions filed?''

Clerk O'Brien: f'No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments./

Speaker Giglio: HThird Reading. Representative Keane, 2350.

Amends the Vebicle Code. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No

Committee or Floor Amendments. No Committee or Floor

Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: nThird Reading. Representative McAfee, 2358.

Out of the record. Representative Keane, 2360. Read the

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Bill, Mr. Clerke'f


Board of Higher Education Act. Second Reading of the Bill.


' Speaker Giqlio: ''Any Motions filed?''

Qlerk O'Brien: HNo Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Keane, 2361.


Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2361, a 3il1 for an Act to amend the

Board of Higher Education Act. Second Reading of the Bill.


Speaker Giglio: 'Third Reading. 2362, Representative Granberg.

2362. Act concerning support of business. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''

clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2362: a Bill for an Act concerning

economic support of business. Second Reading of the Bill.

No Committee or Floor Amendments.p

Speaker Giglio: nThird Reading. Representative Hicks, 2363. Out

of the record. Representative Edleyt 2364. Out of the

record. Representative Weller, 2368. Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.''


state colleges. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment 41

was adopted in committee.n



Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Lang, 2372. Out

of the record. Representative Lang on 2374, public

utilities. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. 2374.1'


Public Utilities Act. Second Readin: of the Bill. No

committee or Floor Amendments.'!

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Balanoff, House

May 1, 1991

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Bill 2378. Amends the Humane Care ior Animal Act.

Representative Balanoff. House Bill 2378. Human Care for

Animal Act. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Humane Care for Animals Act. Second Reading oi the Bill.


Speéker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 2381, Representative

Johnson. 2381. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerkm''


Illinois Civil Administrative Code. Second Reading of the

Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee.''

Speaker Giglio': ''Any Motions filed?'''


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Hensel, 2385.

That, we moved that, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 2392, Bernie

Pedersen. Representative Pedersen. Out of the record.

House Bill 2399, Representative Phelan. 2399. Read the

Bill, Mr. Clerko''

clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2392, a Bill for an Act to amend

certain Acts in relation to adoption. Second Reading of

the Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendmentsol

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. 2396, Representative Pedersen.

Want to read the Bill? Mr. Clerk, 2396, read the Bill.H


Business Corporation Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No

Committee or Floor Amendmentsp''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Readinq. Alright. House Bill 2399,

Representative Phelan, an Act in relation to scholarships.

Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.'f


the operation of scholarship schools. Second Reading of

the Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Pullen. Out of

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the record. Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks,



criminal Code. Second Readin: of the Bill. No Committee

or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Pullen, 2404.

Out of the record. Representative Ryder, 2405. Out of the

record. Representative Williams, 2410. Representative

Williams. Out of the record. Representative Keane, 2416.

Read the Bill, Mr. Clerkwn

Clerk O'Brien: ''House 3ill 2416, a Bill for an Act to limit the

creation of organizational units by state. Second Reading

of the Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments.''


Keane. Read it, Mr. Clerk.''


Illinois Municipal Code. Second Readinq of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House 3i11 2418, Representative

Keane. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.'

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2418, a Bill for an Act requirin:balanced budget notes. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: 'fThird Reading. Representative Mautino, 2420.

Fiscal note's requested. Out of the record. How about

2421? It's filed? ls it filed? Alright. 2420.''

Clerk O'B/ien: ''House Bill 2120, a Bill for an Act to. amend the

Illinois State Auditing Act. Second Reading of the Bill.

No Committee or Floor Amendments and the fiscal note is now

filed.''


Mautino, 2421. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


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state program audit reports. Second Reading of the Bill.


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Keane on 2422.

Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. 2422. Fiscal note's not filed,

Representative Keane. Representative Currie, 2123. Read



School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee or

Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. On page 28 of the Calendar,

House Bills, Second Reading, appears House Bill 2439.

Representative Currie. Exotic Weed Act. 2429. Do you

want that Bill called? Call it. Read it, Mr. Clerk.''


Illinois Exotic Weed Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Brunsvold, 2433.


Clerk O'Brien: NHouse Bill 2433, a 3ill for an Act to create tbe

1991 Revisory Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No

Committee or Floor Amendments.f'


Brunsvold. Representative Brunsvold, 2434. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 2434, a 3ill for an Act to create the

1991 Revisory Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: PThird Reading. House Bill 2435, Representative

Brunsvold. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.'l

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2435, a Bill for an Act concerning

codification and revision of the laws. Second Reading of

the Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendmentso''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 2436, Mr. Clerk.

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Representative Brunsvold, 2436. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


codification and revision of the laws. Second Reading of


Speaker Giglio: 'Third Reading. Alright, 23...0r 2437, Mr.

Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2437, a Bill for an Act to revise

Uniform Commercial Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. 2438, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2438, a Bill for an Act to codify the

laws in relation to state commemorative dates. Second

Reading of the Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. 2439, Mr. Clerk.?

clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2439, a Bill for an Act to codify the

laws in relation to state designation. Second Reading of


Speaker Giglio: HThird Reading. House Bill 2440. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk./

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2440, a 3i1l for an Act to revise the



Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 2441. Mr. Clerk,

read the Bi1l.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2441, a Bill for an Act to revise the

Election Laws. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment 41

was adopted in committee.n

Speaker Giglio: HAny Motions filed??


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. 2443, House Bill. Read the

Bill.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2443, a 3i1l for an Act to revise the

1aw to conform with certain statutory provisions. Second

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Reading of the Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Alright, Mr. Clerk, we're gonna

back up on page 27. Representative Ryder was in a meeting.

House Bill 2405. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerko''

Clerk O'Brien: 'House Bill 2405, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Illinois Securities Law. Second Reading of the Bill.



Clerk' O'Brien: '''No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.'l

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 2406. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: f'House Bill 2406, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Illinois Securities Law. Second Reading of the Bill. No



Mr. Clerk./




Speaker Giglio: ''Any Motions filed?/


Speaker Giglio: RThird Reading. House 3ill 2408. Read the

B i l l . ''



Amendment 41 was adopted in committee.l

Speaker Giglio: ''Any Motions filed? Representative Ryder, will

you take this Bill out of the record for a minute?

Representative Pedersen, you seeking recognition?''

Pedersen: ''Yeah, could we go back to House Bill 23927 I was

II'C Z' C * P

Speaker Giglio: ''2392 has been adoptedo''

Pedersen: ''Is it on Third Reading?''

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Speaker Giglio: HRightop

Pydersen: ''Oh okay. Thank you.''

Speaker Giqlio: ''2292 and 2392 and 2396 are both on Third

Reading. They're both your Bills.''

Pedersen: ''Alright. Thank you.f'

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Wennlund, House Bill 2444. Out

of the record. Representative Satterthwaite, 2446. Did we

roll that? It's been passed. Representative Morrow, 2451.

Representative Morrow. Out of the record. Representative

Currie, 2452. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill.

Amendment /1 was adopted in committee.H


clerk O'Brien: oNo Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.G

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Currie on 2458.


Clerk O'Brien: GHouse Bill 2458, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Children and Family Services Act. Second Reading of the

Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments.o

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Flowers, 2459.

Out of the record. Representative Curran, 2460. Amends

the Children and Family Services Act. 2460. Read the

Bill, Mr. Clerk.''



Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Hofiman, Jay

Hoffman, 2462. The Gentleman in the chamber? Out of the

record. Representative Walsh, 2463. Out of the record.

2464, Representative Walsh. Out of the record.

Representative Hoffman on 2465. Out of the record.

Representative Rotello, 2466. Out of the record.

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Representative Woolard, 2468. Out of the record.

Representative Capparelli. Out of the record..

Representative Laurino, 2471. Fiscal note not filed.

Representative Kulas. Out of the record. Representative

McGann, Representative McGann. OHt oi the record.

Representative Currie, 2486. Representative Barbara Currie

on 2486. Out of the rec...House Bill 2487, Representative

Williams. Out of the record. Representative Levin, 2488.

Representative Levin, 2488. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerkp''


Public Utilities Act. Second Reading of the Bill.




Speaker Giglio: ''Third Readinq. House Bill 2489, Representative

Tenhouse. 2489. Amends the Public Aid Code. Want that

3ill heard? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2489, a Bill ior an Act to amend the

Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: lThird Reading. House Bill 2444, Representative

Wennlund. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Solid Waste Planning and Recycling Act. Second Reading of

the Bill. No Committe'e Amendments.''

Speaker Giqlio: ''Any Floor Amendments?/

Clerk O'Brien: ''Floor Amendment 41 offered by Representative

Wennlundo''

Speaker Giglio: f'Representative Wennlund on Amendment'#l to House

Bill 2444. Any discussion on the Amendment?''

Wennlund: ,Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. A1l

the Amendment really does is it, makes sure that

Tupperware and some of the other plastic containers that

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are not meant for single use are not affected by the

Plastic Labeling for Recycling Act.''



'aye', opposed 'no'. ln the opinion of the Chair', the


Amendments. Any further Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No iurther Amendmentso''


Kulas. Environmental Protection Act. Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.''


Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill.


speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Williams: 2492.

Out of the record. On page 20...30 of the Calendar,

appears House Bill 2502, Representative Cronin.

Representative Cronin in the chamber? Out of the record,

Mr. Clerk. Representative Lang on 2503. Out of the

record. House Bill 2508, Representative Curran. Long term

health facilities. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. 2508.

25...The Clerk informs the Chair that 2508 has been moved.

Representative Davis, for what purpose do you seek

recognition?''

Davis: ''Mr. Speaker, I'd like to announce at this time, that

Representative Karen Hasara, Representative Sue Deuchler

and Representative Monique Davis invite you to have cake in

the back in celebration of our leqislative baby, Mary

Flowers expecting, so. you're invited to have cake. Yeal''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Curran, on House Bill 2510, out

of the record. Representative Harris, 2512. 2512. Read

the Bill, kr. Clerk.''


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Military Care of Illinois Act. Second Reading of the Bill.

No Committee Amendments.''



Harris.''

Speaker Giglio: f'Representative Harris, on Amendment 41.:9

Harris: ''Mr. Speaker...l do not believe this Amendment has been

distributed, so I'd ask that the Bill be taken out of the

record.''

Speaker Giglio: 1'2512, Amendment been distributed? Out of

the record. House Bill 2516, Representative Turner. Out

of the record. House Bill 2521, Representative Walsh.

Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.ff

Clerk OfBrien: ''House Bill 2521, a Bill for an Act in relation to

DUI. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee

Amendments.''



Walsh.''

Speaker Giglio; ''The Gentleman from Lasalle, Representative

Walsh, on Amendment #1.''

Walsh: ''That's correct, Mr. Speaker. This is a technical

Amendment by E. and E. and...t just adds...sentence into

the...Bill as it standsn


all those in iavor of the Amendment signify by saying 'aye,

opposed 'nay', in the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have

it. The Amendment's adopted. Are ther: further

Amendments?''


Walsh: ''Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask for leave to move it back to

the Consent Calendar, if I can.p

Speaker Giglio: ''First, we have to adopt the Amendment. All

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those in favor of the Amendment signify by saying 'aye',

'nay'. ln the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it.

The Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments??


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. The Gentleman asks leave to

return House Bill 2521 back to. the Consent Calendar.

Hearing none, leave is granted by the Attendance Roll Call.

2523, Representative Williams. Out of the record.

Representative 'McNamara, 2524. Representative McNamara?

2524. Mr. Clerk, read the Bil1.>

Clerk O'Brien: ''House 3ill 2524, a Bill for an Act to amend an

Act to create the Pay-per-call Service. Second Reading of

the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any Motions filed?l

Clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.l'


Saltsman. 2526, read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.'


Employment of Illinois Workers' of Public Works Act. Second

Reading of the Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments.o


Steczo. Representative Steczo. Out of the record.

Representative White, 2532. 2532. Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.,




Speaker Giqlio: ''Third Reading. Representative Curran, 2536.

Want to read this Bill, Mr. Curran? Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.''


act in relation to ethanol fuel. Second Reading of the

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Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments.f'

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 2160, Mr. Clerk,

Representative DeLeo, read the Bill.''


Nursing Home Care Act. Second Reading of the Bill.


Speaker Giglio: ''Are there any Motions filed?H

Clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions filed. No Floor Amendmentsm''


Cowlishaw. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.H


Fiscal Responsibility Report Act. Second Reading of the


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Keane. Out of

the record. Representative Harris on 2550. Out of the

record. Representative Matijevich, 2552. Out of therecord. Representative Hannig, 2553. Out of the record.

Representative Hoffman, 2559. Roll the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.''


Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee or

Floor Amendments.''


Harris. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Illinois Banking Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No

Committee or Floor Amendments.'f


Hoffman. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerka''


Surface Mine Land Conservation and Reclamation Act. Second

Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments.?


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clerk O'Brien: ''Floor Amendment #l, offered by Representative J.

Hoffman.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Hoffman

on Amendment #l.P

Hoffman: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the

House. Amendment #l. To this Bill, it was explained in

the committee and was passed with that knowledge,

essentially what it has done is just clear up what theintent of the law was, and specifically says what must be

filed on the statement of reclamation.n


a11 in favor of the Amendment signify by saying 'ayef,

opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes'

have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?'

clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.''


Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bi11...%

Speaker Giglio: ''Take it out of the record. House Bill 2578.

Representative Phelps. Out of the record. Oh, excuse me,

read the Bill, Mr. Clerk, 2578.''

clerk OlBrien: ''House Bill 2578, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Civil Administrative Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No

committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 2579. Representative

Hoffman. Out of the record. Representative Phelps on

2581. Representative Phelps. 2581. Read the . Bill, Mr.

Clerkpn

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2581, a Bill for an Act to improve

health care. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee or

Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 2468, Mr. Clerk.

Read the Bi11.''

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Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. On page 31 of the Calendar.

Representative Mautino. House Bill 2589. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.P


Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading oi the Bill.

No Committee or Floor Amendments.l


Mautino. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.H


Ambulatory Surgical Treatment. Second Reading of the Bill.


speaker Giglio: ''Any Motions filed?H

Clerk O'Brien: *No Motions filed.''


Clerk O'Brien: HFloor Amendment #2, offered by Representative

Anthony YoungoH

Speaker Giglio: nRepresentative Mauteno.''

Mautino: ''Amendment 42 is an Agreed Amendment, is Tony here? It

is an Agreed Amendment. I will accept the Amendment.H

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on the Amendment? Representative

Wennlund?''

Wennlund: ''Yes, would the Sponsor explain the Amendment and the

purpose of the Amendment?''

Speaker Giglio: NRepresentative Mautino.H

Mautino: ''Yes, Amendment 42 limits the post-surgical care of the

patient to three days and deletes the language permitting

treatment and requests from the three-day limit. So,

basically, the person was there for iour days, this

Amendment would address that. It eliminates that provision

that takes out the a, eliminates the care that's

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established in the Bill to three days, it eliminates that

provision, a person may stay there six if necessary.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on that Amendment, Representative

Wennlund?

Wennlund: ''No, thank you for the explanation.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Hearing none, all those in favor of the

Amendment signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay', the

opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's

adopted. Further Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brien: HNo further Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: HThird Reading. Representative Black, 2592?

Read the Bill, Mr. Clerko''


Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act. Second Reading of

the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee.''



Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative White, 2594.

Read the Bill, Mr.. Clerkp''


Act in relation to condominiums. Second Reading of the

Bill. Amendment 41 was adopted in committee.'l


Clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.'

Speaker Giqlio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 2595, Representative

McGann. Out of the record. Representative Ryder, 2602.

Representative Ryder. Out of the record. Mr. Clerk,

excuse me, read the Bil1.P


Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading oi the Bill. No



Hasara. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

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sections of the Adoption Act. Second Reading oi the Bill.

No Committee or Floor Amendmentsp''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Mautino on House

Bill 2611. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.n


Rural Bond Bank Act. Second Reading of the Bill.



Clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.'f

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Mccracken, 2624.

Out of the record. Representative Madigan...we passed this

one already. Representative McNamara, 2642. Read the

Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2642, a . Bill for an Act to amend

sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill.


Speaker Giglio: ''Any Motions filed?'


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Levin, 2643. Out

of the record. On page 32 oi the Calendar. Nope, that's

it. Second Reading. 1189, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.''

Clerk O'Brien: nHouse Bill 1189, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Motor Fuel Tax Law. Second' Reading of the Bill. No

Committee or Floor Amendments.e

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. 1533, Mr. Clerk. Read the

Bi1l.''


employment. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee

Amendments.''


Clerk O'Brien: HFloor Amendment #l, offered by Representative

Ronan.''

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Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Ronan. On Amendment 41.''

Ronan: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1533. I'd like to

present Amendment #1. We're changing a definition, by

deleting, 'engages lawful activities', and it's starting

instead, 'uses lawful products'.''

Speaker Giglio: 'Any discussion on the Amendment? Hearing none,

al1 that are in favor of the Amendment signify by saying

'aye', opposed 'nay', in the opinion of the Chair, the

'ayes' have The Amendment is adopted. Further

Amendments?''


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. 1968. Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''What number?''

Speaker Giglio: H1968.,

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 1968. There's a fiscal note. Fiscal

note requesto''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Noland, there's a fiscal note

requested on this Bill. Representative Ronan.''

Ronan: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. understand there's been a

request for a fiscal note. It's an improper request, and I

move that that is, a, Motion 1ay on the table, however you

want to handle it./

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman moves...read the Bill on Second,

M f P *

Ronan: ''I move that the fiscal note is not applicable.''

Clerk O'Brien: 'House Bill 1968, a Bill for an Act to amend the

University Retail Sales Act. Second Reading of the 3ill.

No Committee or Floor Amendmentso''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Gentleman, there's a request for a fiscal

note and the Gentleman moves that the fiscal note is not

applicable. Any discussion on the

Gentlemanfs...Representative Black.n

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Black: 'rThank, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Sponsor's

talked to us about this and we've reexamined it and we

think he's right. Wefre withdrawing the fiscal note.n

Speaker Giglio: 'Fiscal note has been withdrawn. Third Reading.

Representative Brunsvold, for what purpose do you arise?'

Brunsvold: ''Thank you: Mr. Speaker. With leave of the House,

checked on the other side of the aisle now with our

leadership. I have a list of LR3 Bills to try to lessen

the work load of the House. would like to put the

following Bills on the Consent Calendar: House Bill 2433,

2434, 2435, 2436, 2137, 2438, 2439, 2440 and 2441. The

Clerk, believe, has a list of those Bi1ls.''

Speaker Giglio: ''You've heard the Gentleman's Motion. On that

question, the Gentleman from Lake, Representative

Peterson.n

Peterson: ''Not on the Motion, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to be

recognized when you finish with the Bill. And, Third

Reading, First Legislative Day, Mr. Speaker? Consent

Calendar. Yes. I would move those Bills be placed on

consent Calendar on the appropriate day.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman has moved to put these 3i11s on the

Order of Third Reading, Consent Calendar, First Legislative

Day. Does the Gentleman have leave? Representative

Wennlund?''

Wennlund: ''Yes, the Gentleman has leave. Those are part of the

revisory provisions that the Legislative Reference Bureau

has put together, and he has leave.''

Speaker Giglio: HLeave is granted by the Attendance Roll Call.

Representative Peterson.''

Peterson: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to call the Body's

attention to Representative Hartke in the gallery with some

friends from my district, Lake Zurich Junior High School.

And, a, Hartke is one of my new legislative aides. He's

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taking care of my constituents. thought that should be

noted.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Welcome to Springfield. We're qoing to go back

to the Order of Second Reading on page 4 of the Calendar.

We'll start right at the top. Representative Hasarao''

Hasara: RThank you, Mr. Speaker. While everyone's fairly quiet,

would like to mention that I sent around a memo regarding

the Governor's Prayer Breakfast, and it is next Thursday,

May 9th, at 7:30, at the Holiday 1nn East. And, it's an

annual event, and a time for all Legislators to get

awayvand reflect on what's going on away from the Capitol.

So# if you are interested in getting a ticket, please 1et

my office know by noon tomorrow. Thank you.''

Speaker Giqlio: ''Alright, on page 4 of the Calendar, on Second

Reading. House Bill Representative Novak.

Representative Novak? House Bill Jennifer, House Bill

Representative Novak. Out of the record. House 3ill

Trotter. Anthony Young, House Bill 8. House Bill 12,

Representative Stern. House Bill 19, Representative Lang.

Out of the record. Those of you that have missed your

Bills, and you care to have your Bills called, we're

starting from scratch. We're going back to the Order of

Second Reading, page 4 of the Calendar, wefre going right

down the Calendar to where we started this morning. House

Bill Shaw. Out of the record. House Bill 40,

Representative Lang. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. With

request for a fiscal note on 40. Out of the record.

Hicks, House Bill 48...a fiscal note requested.

Representative Hicks, are you interested in 48? House

Bill 48? Alright, Mr. Clerk, will you back up to House

Bill 40 and read the Bi11.''

Clerk O'Brien: nHouse Bill 40, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No

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Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Are there any Floor Amendments?''


Black.n

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Black. On Amendment #l, House

Bill 10.11

Black: HThank you very much, Mr. Speaker. apologize to the

Sponsor of the Bill. I havenlt had a chance to talk to him

about this Amendment. Should he wish me to withdraw,

will. I don't wish to damage his Bill. think the

Gentleman's on the right track. I think school bus safety

is an issue that we talk a lot about, but we don't seem to

get much accomplished. What Floor Amendment 41 would do

would be to require school buses in the State of Illinois

to be equipped with a fuel bladder system so that if they

are in a wreck, the fuel will be contained in that blatter.

Those of you who follow auto racing know that's been

technology around for years. I would offer Amendment 41

for the Gentleman's consideration.'f


a11 those in favor of the Amendment signify by saying


'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Are there

further Amendments?''



Santiago. Santiago? House Bill 56. Out of the record.

How about 57? Currency Exchange. Out of the record.

House Bill 2358. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Trust and Trustees Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No



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Clerk O'Brien: OFloor Amendment #1, offered by Representative

McAfee.''

Speaker Giqlio: ''Gentleman from Cook, Representative McAfee.''

McAfee: 'fMr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House,

Amendment 41 is a technical Amendment which clears up some

of the language problems in the Bill. I move for its

adoption.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on the Amendment? Hearinq none,

al1 those in favor of the Amendment signify by sayin:

'aye', opposed 'nay', in the opinion of the Chair, the

'ayes' have it# and the Amendment is adopted. Are there


Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendmentse''


Currie. Out of the record. Representative Kulas, 97.


Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill a Bill for an Act to amend the

sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill.

Amendment #1 was adopted in committee.''


Clerk O'Brien: HNo Motions filed. No Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Representative Kulas.''

Kulas: 'fMr. Speaker: I'm waiting for another Amendment. If that

hasn't been filed, I'd like to leave the Bill on Second

Reading.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Hold the Bill on Second Reading, Mr. Clerk. On

page 5 oi the Calendar appears House Bill 101,

Representative Capparelli. Read the Bill: Mr. Clerk.''


Metropolitan Civic Center Act. Second Reading of the Bill.

Amendments #1 and 42 were adopted in committee.''


Clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions filed.''

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Clerk OfBrien: ''Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative

Wennlund. Representative WennlundmH

Wennlund: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. Floor Amendment 43 requires the approval of the

voters by referendum for a municipality to join theChicago-south Harvey Civic Center Authority. So that when

the municipalities pulled into that authority, the City

Council would then pass an ordinance that would require a

referendum to determine whether or not that municipality

should become part of the Civic Center Authority. move

for the adoption of the Amendment.p

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on the Gentleman's Motion?

Hearing none, all in favor of the Amendment signify by

saying 'aye', opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair,

the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there


Clerk O'Brien: ''Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative

Wojcik.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Wojcik on Amendment 44.*

Wojcik: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, Amendment 44to House Bill l0l allows applications filed support under

the Metropolitan Civic Center Support Act by August

1990, from civic centers to be valid up to June 30, 1993:

the civic center is not fully funded. Currently, the

Department Commerce and Community Affairs, by

Administrative Rule, considered applications valid for one

program year, i.e., June l to July 30. The Civic Center

Authorities are required by Administrative Rule to file

each program year if it is not fully funded. In view of

the fact that we're in a budget crunch this year, and the

civic centers are not going to be authorized, this will

allow those communities who have put in for Civic Centers,

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to extend their request. I ask its favorable adoption.''

Speaker Giglio: 'You ask for favorable adoption?n

Wojcik: ''Yes Sir.'' n#Speaker Giglio: ''Well, the Gentleman informs the Chair that the

Amendment hasn't been distributed.l

Wojcik: ''It is.''Speaker Giglio: ''Mr. Clerk. Has the Amendment been distributed?

The Clerk informs the Chair that the, #4 has not been

distributedo''

Wojcik: 'Can we take out of the record, then, until we have

it?''

Speaker Giglio: NWell, we're going to have to.n

Wojcik: ''Can we take the entire Bill out of the record until wehave the Amendment?''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Capparelli wishes to yield to the

Lady, take the Bill out of the record.''

Wojcik: ''Thank you, Representative.''Speaker Giglio: NHold the Bill on Second Reading, Mr. Clerk,

we'll come back to it. Representative Schoenberg?

Shoenberg. Out of the record. Representative Novak, 114.

Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.H

clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill, think we've got a fiscal note on

this...''

Speaker Giglio: ''Fiscal note has not been filed, Representative

Novak. Take out of the record. Alriqht, the Clerk

informs the Chair that the fiscal note is requested on the

next four Bills, so we'll go to House Bill 1.43 and that

fiscal note has been filed. Representative LeFlore. Out

of the record, Mr. Clerk. How about Representative Hicks?

On 149. Out of the record. Representative Matijevich, onHouse Bill 153. Read 153. Wefll go back to it.''


transfer of property. Second Reading of the Bill. No

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committee Amendments.'

Speaker

May 1, 1991

Giglio: ''Any Floor Amendments? Representative

Matijevich, do you have a copy of Amendment 41?''

Clerk O'Brien: pFloor Amendment #1, offered by Representative

Wojcik.''Wojcik: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, Floor

Amendment 41 provides that the conveyance of l60 acres in

Lake County to the City of North Chicago, be by appraisal

and at the fair market value.''


a1l in favor of the...Representative Matijevich?''

Matijevich: '1Mr. Speaker: Ladies and Gentlemen, rise to opposethe Amendment. Some of you may be aware if you were here

last Session, this is very similar to a Bill where I've

been trying to get property that the State of Illinois and

the Department of Transportation has held for 25 years.

lt's been doin: nothing, and I've been trying to 9et the

property for the City of North Chicago for the purposes of

economic development, to build a corporate corridor, a

linear corporate park. As you know, when you transfer

property from one public body to another, we don't have to

get an appraisal, but 1 did that two years ago, and ! will

truly admit to you that my Second Amendment will convey the

property to the City of North Chicago for $800,000. That

is less than the appraised value, I will admit that, but

it's what the city can afford. It's about $100,000 more

than the State purchased the property 25 years ago, but the

community is in dire straits, the property will never

amount to anything for the State of Illinois, any now, it's

going to sit there. And, is immediately adjacent to

other corporate interests, would very much complement

that area. So, I would urge the membership to defeat this

Amendment and then, to adopt Amendment #2.''

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Speaker Giorgi: ''Further discussion on the Amendment. The

Representative from Vermilion: Representative Black.''

Black: ''We1l, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The questioner

was debatin: the Bill, and the issue here is the Amendment.

Will the Sponsor yield for a question?''

Speaker Giorqi: /He indicates he wi1l.''

Black: fRepresentative Wojcik, is not an appraisal and selling ofstate land at a fair market value, the accepted practice?''

Wojcik: 'Yes, it is.''Black: ''Thank you very Much.''

Speaker Giorgi: ''Further discussion on the Amendment? The Lady

from Cook, Representative Wojcik to close.'f o

Wojcik: ''1 think the Amendment speaks ior itself. just wouldask for its favorable passage.''

speaker Giglio: ''All those who favor the Amendment signify by

saying 'aye, opposed 'no' opinion of the Chair, the 'nos'#

have it, and the Amendment fa...Gentleman asks for a Roll

Call. A11 those in favor of the Amendment signify by

voting 'aye', those opposed 'nay', the voting is open.

Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr.

Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 43

voting 'yes' 62 voting 'no' and one voting 'present', and# #

the Amendment fails. Are there further Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brien: PFloor Amendment #2, offered by Representative

Matijevicho''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Matijevich on Amendment #2./

Matijevich: HYes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House.

Amendment 42 would provide that the City of North Chicaqo,

the property would be conveyed to the City of North Chicago

for $800,000. I have admitted that that is less than the

appraised value. I want to tell the membership that that

property has been doing nothing for 25 years. The State of

lllinois would get more than it paid for the property.

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And. it would greatly enhance the economic development of a

community that is 65% Minority. It's something that can be

done to stimulate development of a corporate linear park

corridor, and it would benefit the community, can't tell

you how much. The State of Illinois, as I said...25 years

ago. they said they were going to use the property for a

rerouting of a highway. It will never be done. This way

something useiul, to benefit the community and to benefit

al1 taxpayers, can be dpne. I urqe the adoption of

Amendment 42.'1

Speaker Giglio: ''You heard the Gentleman's Motion. Any

discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the

Amendment signify by saying 'aye', Representative Olson.''

Olson: ''Question of the Sponsor.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Proceedo''

Olson: ''Representative Matijevich, you mentioned the State wouldbe getting more than they paid for the property? What did

they pay?

Matijevich: HI believe it was $700,000, and we, the City og NorthChicago would Government purchased it for $800,0t0.''

Olson: lThe City is offering $800,000 for a purchase oi property

that the state paid $700,000 for. What is the appraised

value of the property?''

Matijevich: ''The appraised value, I believe, is about four and ahalf million dollars.''

Olson: lsounds like a...''

Matijevich: ''Wait a minute. That was two years ago. Since then,

it has been significantly reduced by the Wetlands Act and

not much of the property that i: wetlands can not be

developed. And, will admit that is less than the

appraised value, but let me tell you, the state will never

get anything for it, because it's going to sit there

another 25 or 50 years. But, the state cah at least :et a

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little more than they paid for it, and this community, can.

Mconomically develop it, provide for jobs, it's much lessthan we did for Bloomington, what we did for other areas of

the state in the matter of economic incentives. This is an

economic incentive that can be helpful to an area, by the

way that is about 65% minority and wants to help itself

6 V CV * 11

olson: ''This...the state, this is the Department of

Transportation, is the agency that possesses it,

believe.'r

Matijevich: ''Correct. And, might add, Representative Olson.two years ago a11 I wanted to see was property development.

Two years ago when Department, DOT, didn't want to go along

with the Bill, my Bill then would be to transfer it to the

Department of Commerce and Community Affairs so that it

develop the property for economic purposes. They thought

was a good idea but they didn't want to get into a

grudge match with another state agency. And, 1 think that

if you got DDA site, they would admit that this is prime

property for economic development.n

Olson: ''The Department of Transportation. Have they blessed this

transfer? Are they willing to give up the property? They

will oppose no matter what. admit that. They

never give up anything.''

Matijevich: 'fokay. Well, to the Amendment, there's a differenceof opinion here as to whether the State Department of

Transportation still has a use for it, or whether the

community has a use for it. I think you have to weigh

those things out, but the thin: that bothers me here is

that, here is a piece of property that may worth as much as

$4,000,000. Most transfers that I've seen in my time here,

the appraised value more or less establishes a price for

something. Here, a $4,000,000 piece of property for

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$800,000...if I could do business like that, I wouldn't be

here in the General Assembly today. Thank you.''

Speaker Giglio: PFurther discussion on the Amendment? Al1 those

in favor of the Amendment signify by saying 'aye': opposed

'no'. Al1 those in favor of the Amendment signify by

voting 'aye, those opposed by voting 'no'. The voting is

open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish?

Mr. Clerk, take the record. Vote for Representative

Weller, 'no'. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this

question there's 66 voting 'yes' 30 voted .'no' and 14#' #

votinq 'present' and t'he Amendment is adopted. Are there


Clerk OfBrien: ''No further Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. I will go back to House 3ill

101, but Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.H

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 101, a Bill ior an Act to amend the

Metropolitan Civic Center Act. This Bill's been read a

second time previously. Amendment 43 was lost. Floor

Amendment #4, offered by Representative Wojcik.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Lady from Cook, Representative Wojcik, on

Amendment 44.''

Wojcik: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker. We have spoken regarding Amendment

#4. I presented it to you, and 1 have spoken to the other

side of the aisler and it's agreed to so ask for its

favorable passage.''


all those in favor of Amendment #4 signify by saying 'aye',

opposed 'nay', in the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have

it, the Amendment is adopted. Are there further

Amendmentsr'

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.fl

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, let's ço back to

House Bill 143, Representative LeFlore. Representative

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LeFlore? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Steel Products Procurement Act. Second Reading of the

Bill. No Committee Amendments.''



Balanoff.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Balanoff on Amendment #1.9'

Balanoff: NYes, on Amendment 41...''

Speaker Giglio: ''To House Bill 143.''

Balanoff: ''Mr. Speaker, on Amendment #1 to House Bill 143, is

basically a buy-lllinoisian, buy-American Amendment. What

it would do is it would give preference to Illinois made

goods, if the cost does not exceed 10%. And, it would also

further give a 10% cost advantaqe to products made in the

United States, purchased by the State of lllinois.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on the Amendment? The Gentleman

from Cook, Representative LeFlore.''

LeFlore: HThe reason why I wanted your attention, you can't hear

what the person is saying on the speaker. I didn't hear

a11 the full contents of the Amendment. I'm not opposed to

it. I would just like for the presenter to present itagain.l

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Balanoff.''

Balanoff: nYou want me to present it. yes, a...what Amendment #1

is, is the. a, it would provide for goods purchased under

the Act and shall be made in Illinois unless their cost of

the Illinois made goods exceeds the cost of, by more 10%.

The same would hold true for goods made in the United

States, would give them a 10% preference. This is a

Bill designed to keep jobs in the State of Illinois.''Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on the Amendment? Hearing none,

a11 those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay'.

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In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The

Amendment's adopted. Are there further Amendments?''


Harris.r'

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Harris, on Amendment 42.''

Harris: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. Amendment 42 broadens an exemption to the Bill.

And, the Amendment is offered in qood faith, it expands the

exemption to include, in essence, a11 of North America and

Central American countries: as well as the emerging

democracies in Eastern Europe. other words, those

countries, such as Canada, Mexico, El Salvador, Panama, the

Amendment lists a 1ot of them, Romania, Yugoslavia, Latvia,

Lithuania, from the provisions of the Bill, and I would

ask, and I do ask, adoption of the Amendment.f'

Speaker Giglio: ''You heard the Gentleman's request. Any

discussions? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative

LeFlore.''

LeFlore: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. I stand in opposition to this Amendment because it

takes away from the 3ill. lt will actually hurt the Bill.

It won't help the Bill at all, so I would ask for a Roll

Call and 'no' vote to kill this Amendment.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Further discussion? Representative Balanoff.''

Balanoff: eNo, I would just agree with the previous speaker,

although well intentioned, these Amendments are not in

keeping with the spirit and the purpose of this legislation

and that be, being to keep jobs in the state and in the

United States.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Further discussions? Representative Harris, to

close.''

Harris: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. a:k adoption of the

Amendment.''

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Speaker Giglio: nHeard the Gentleman's Motion. A1l those in

favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed 'no'. The votinq

is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who

wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the

record. On this question there are 45 voting fyes' and 66

voting 'no', and none voting 'present', and the Amendment

fails. Are there further Amendments?H


Harris.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Harris: on Amendment 43.,1

Harris: HThank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. Amendment 43 is similar to one that was offered

last year, and I will tell yo'u that it was rejected last

year. However, the intention of the Amendment is indeed a

good one. It says that a nation which has been granted

'most favored nation's status, and that is a federally

designated status, a nation which has that designation does

not fall under the requirements of this Act. In other

words, items which are, produced items which are made in

those nations that have a 'most favored nationls status

with the United States, those items could be indeed be used

in products used here in the State of Illinois. It was a

good Amendment, I think, last year when we tried to put it

on, it's still a good Amendment this year. ties in with

what's bein: done at the federal level' and ask for

adoption of Amendment #3.'1

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussions? Gentleman from Cook,

Representative LeFlorep''

LeFlore: ''Mr. Speaker, I stand in opposition of this Amendment

#3. It will really have a great effect on the Bill.ff

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Giorgi?''

Giorgi: ''Mr. Speaker, can you give me the names of three

countries that might have the status that you're talking

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about?''

Harris: ''Well, most of the countries of Western Europe have 'most

favored nation's status. Many of the countries that were

on...p

Giorgi: 'What about China?/

Harris: Rchina, right now, is being negotiated.''

Giorgi: ''How about Taiwan?H

Harris: ''I don't know for a fact, but my guess is Taiwan probably

would, knowing our trading relationship with them.''

Giorgi: ''The nations with the 'most favored' status are the one's

that are killing us. They're crippling us, and they're

lengthening our recession and our depression in the United

States. Do you guys know what you're talking about?'f

Harris: ''We1l, we know what wedre talking about. mean, they

are also some of our biggest trading partners. I mean,

Taiwan, we do, we do a huge amount of business with Taiwan,

and...''

Giorgi: ''But, there's the reason for that Bill, is you want to

cut those nations off from selling us products. That's the

reason our recession can't end. It's a depression, not a

recession. You ought to withdraw this Amendment. This

Amendment is almost indictable for anyone that might pass

Terrible Amendment. Vote 'not' on this Amendment./

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Harris, to close.''

Harris: ''I didn't answer the Gentleman's comments. It wasn't

really a question. Many of the nations that are included

wiih 'most favored nation's status indeed are our largest

trading partners. Ao..the nations are not killinq us, if

we're using that term in terms of trade. It does place,

the Bill itself, does place a significant, significant

burden, and would have a major impact on nations with whichwe do business right now on the federal level. The

Amendment, Amendment #3, ties in with whatfs being done at

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the federal level. think that it's an appropriate

Amendment, and 1 ask for adoption.''

Speaker Giglio: nYou've heard the Gentleman's Motion. A11 those

in favor signify by votinq 'aye', opposed 'nay'. The vote

is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who

wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there

are 43 votin: 'yes' 69 voting 'no' and none voting# '

fpresent' and the Amendment...Trotter, 'no'. Trotter

'no', Mr. Clerk. There are now 42 voting 'yes' and 70

votinq 'no', and the Amendment fails. Are there further

Amendments?''


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Alright, Mr. Clerk, we're going

to qo back and pick up three Bills. House Bill 2104.

2104, by Representative Delaegher. Mr. Clerk, read the

Bil1.''

clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 2104, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Prevailing Wage Act. Second Reading of the Bill.

Amendment #1 was adopted in committee.''


Clerk O'Brien: ''No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments./


Ryder. 2408. Take it out of the record for a minute, Mr.

Clerk. Representative Hoffman on 2462. Mr. Clerk, read

the Bill.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2462, a 3i11 for an Act to amend the

Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading oi. the Bill.


Speaker Giglio: ''Any Floor Amendments?n

Clerk O'Brien: ''Floor Amendment #l, offered by Representative J.

Hoffman.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative

Hoffman, on Amendment 41.'1

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Hoffman: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. Floor

Amendment /1 was explained in committee, indicated I

would amend this on the floor. It essentially just makeschanges to clear up the language. The intent's the same.'


a1l those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay'.

In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, the

Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?r

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendmentso''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 1448, read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1448, a Bill for an Act to amend the' Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill.


Speaker Giqlio: ''Any Floor Amendments?''


Doederlein.n

Speaker Giorgi: lThe Lady from Kane, Representative Doederlein.'

Doederlein: ''Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 was the Amendment that

was asked for in committee. It just adds to private

residence.''


all those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay'.

the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have the

Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?''


Doederlein.''

Speaker Giorgi: HAmendment #2.''

Doederlein: ''Amendment 42 makes an additional, that any

additional capital costs incurred, specifically to comply

with this section, would be added to the fees.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on Amendment #2? Gentleman from

Fulton, Representative Homer.''

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Homer: ''Will the Lady yield?p

Speaker Giglio: ''She indicates she wi11.''

Homer: ''Representative Doederlein, your Bill, as I understand it,

forces a city to accept sludge that's produced either from

within or without its jurisdiction, it's in the same

county. Now, what does your Amendment #2, how does it

change that?''

Doederlein: ''If they have to have screeners or some other

facility to update their sewage system treatment, this

would be added to the costo''

Homer: f'Added to whose cost, whose cost?''

Doederlein: ''The fee that they would be allowed to charge.''

Homer: ''But the 3il1 still mandates that the city accept that

waste product?''

Doederlein: ''Yes, this is for environmental health. We have so

many homes on the outskirts of the cities that are with

septic systems.,

Homer: ''We11, and I guess we'll discuss that on Third Reading.

But a11 your Amendment does, would be allow the city to

add, in its fee that it charges: those capitalized

expenses. So, I guess your Amendment makes the Bill a

little more palatable. have no objection to your

Amendment.''

Doederlein: ''Thank you.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any further discussion? A11 those in favor of

the Amendment signify by sayin: 'aye', opposed 'nay'. In

the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The

Amendmënt's adopted. Are there further Amendments? There

are no further Amendments. Third Reading. We're going to

change the routine a little bit. Wefre going to go to

House Bill Third Readings, Special Calendar.

Representative Jones, welcome to the House. Senator.

Representative Kulas, State and Local Government, Third

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Reading. House Bill 50. Representative Kulas. Out of the

record. How about Representative Brunsvold, House Bill 69?

Repr.esentative Brunsvold. Third Reading. House Bill 69,

State and Local Government. Out of the record.

Representatiye Cowlishaw, House Bill 72. State and Local

Government of the Order of Special Calendar. Are you

ready? Out of the record. Santiago. Out of the record.

Representative Stern. you have two Bills here on the Order

of State and Local Government, House Bill 351, Third

Readinq. Would you like to call this Bill? Out of the

record. How about 52, 352. Out of the record.

Representative Rice, brother Rice, 353. State and Local

Government. Out of the record. 354. Out of the Record.

Representative McAfee, 177. Representative McAfee? Out of

the record. Representative Steczo, House Bill 518. Out of

the record. Representative Santiago, 536. Out of the

record. Representative Currie, 575. Out of the Record.

Representative Rotello, 838. Third Reading. State and

Local Government. Do you want this Bill called?

Representative Rotello, on House Bill 838. Mr. Clerk, read

the Bi11.''

Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 838: a Bill for an Act to amend the

Counties Code. Third Readin: of the Bill.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from Rockford, Representative Rotello

on House Bill 838. This is Third Reading.''

Rotello: ''Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House.

This Bill will just bring an elected official of the countylevel in line with other elected officials in terms of

having internal control oi their own office. It will be

like for hiring secretaries or hiring staff, this would be

an opportunity for that, for anyone elected to that

position, to have an opportunity to do so. The way it

stands now, the person can be elected and then the county

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board appoints internal staff, and think that's

inappropriate if we're going to elect some to an office to

do a job.''Speaker Giglio: HAny discussion on the Motion. The Gentleman

from Vermilion, Representative Black.H

Black: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor

yield?n

Speaker Giglio: ''He indicates he wi11.''

Black: ''Thank you. Representative, you have a very interesting

Bill here. Let me ask you just a couple of questions.Would House Bill 838, as you have it drafted, would that

perhaps run afoul of the Rutan decision of the Supreme

Court?H

Rotello: ''No, don't believe so, there, Representative.'

Black: ''Well who...I don't see that the Bill mentions anything

about a personnel code, or a, a hiring procedure, mean,

are you asking us to give the county executive just carte

blanche authority to hire whoever he wants for his staff,

or her staff?''

Rotello: ''That's correct, Sir.''

Black: ''Oh, in other words, without going through a personnel

code or anything.'

Rotello: ''We11, that's correct. We have to, it's up to the

perogative of the elected official to do what they wish,

just like we do here, Sir.''Black: ''Alright, okay, thank you very much, Representative. Mr.

Speaker, Ladieé and Gentlemen of the House. To the Bill,

must rise in opposition to this. From the Gentleman's

questions, and appreciate his veracity, I think he was to

the point, but you heard what he said, youfre going to

allow a county executive to hire, without the advise and

consent of the elected county board, without perhaps

reference to a personnel code or any fair hiring

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procedures. I...given all of the attention that has been

paid to this issue, in the last six or seven months, I'm

not sure whether a county executive: (1). shokld have this

power, 1'm not sure that a county executive given the

state of ethics today would want this power. So, perhaps a

'no' or 'present' vote would be the proper vote and I stand

in opposition to the Gentleman's Bi1l.''

Speaker Mcpike: HFurther discussion? The Gentleman from Fulton,

Representative Homer.''

Homer: ''Will the Gentleman yield?''

Speaker Mcpike: f'He indicates he wi11.P

Homer: ''Representative Rotello, behind you, this Bill applies

only to counties having an executive officer, an elected

executive officer. How many counties have one?H

Rotello: ''The only Bill this would affect, or any county this

Bill would affect right now, would be Will County.''

Homer: ''Can just ask, 1 was curious as to you carrying thatBill, why do you have the Bil1?''

Rotello: ''I originally, as a former county official, had come up

with the idea, oriqinally, of promoting the county

executive concept without home rule and through the good

graces of our Dean of the House, Representative Giorgi he

carried that Bill under this esteemed House and got it

passed. However...'

Speaker Giglio: ''Excuse me a minute, Representative Matijevich?''

Matijevich: ''Mr. Speaker, Representative McAfee's been roaming up

in the gallery for the last five minutes. Would you have

him come here on the floor of the House where he belongs?n

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative McAfee?''

Homer: ''Just be happy you were presenting a Bill and weren't sent

up into the gallery. But, might be, a, all that your 3ill

does is accept the hiring of receptionists and secretaries

and other necessary staff. You would still have the

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deputies and other employees subject to the advise and

consent?''

Rotello: ''The way, the intention of it is to have the internal

staff hired by the executive and then the 1aw spells out

the department heads would be approved by the advise and

consent of the board. I don't disagree with that?l

Homer: ''Final question. Is this your first Bi11?''

Rotello: ''Yes, it is.''

Homer: Hoh, well, I don't know, it may be fatally flawed, at

least for a while. Alright, thank you.'r

Rotello: ''Thank you, Sir.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Wennlund.''

Wennlund: >Wi11 Sponsor yield?''

Rotello: ''Yes.''

Wennlund: ''The only county out of the l02 counties in the State

of Illinois that this Bill affects is the County of Will?

Is that correct?''

Rotello: HThat is correct, Sir?''

Wennlund: ''We11, what's the genesis of the Bill? Why are you

concerned about Will County?''

Rotello: ''I think that we have to be concerned about the entire

State of Illinois, and good government for a11 the people

of the State of Illinois and think that this Bill

addresses that.''

Wennlund: HWell, don't think it addresses at alloo.Winnebago

County is about two hours drive from Will County, do you

have relatives in Will County?''

Rotello: ''No sir. We expect to present this position in

Winnebago County soon, thouqh, hopefully.''

Wennlund: 'Q 'm sorry, I couldn't hear that.''

Rotello: ''We'd likç to have this kind of poiition in Winnebago

County as soon as possible.''

Wennlund: ''Well, why don't you wait 'til Will County voters

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decide to adopt the county executive form of government

before you decide that you're going to change the 1aw that

now only affects the County of Will?''

Rotello: ''Well, Representative McGuire is a Co-sponsor here and

he's from Will County, Sir, and maybe he'd like to address

i t . ''

Wennlund: ''Did Representative McGuire ask you to Sponsor this

legislation?''

Rotello: ''No, no he didndt, but he certainly agrees with it.''

Wennlund: ''Who requested that this legislation be sponsored?''

Rotello: ''Governor Edgar.''

Wennlund: ''Well# you've got some, got some friends in some real

high places, but I seriously doubt that Governor Edgar

decided that this was an appropriate legislative initiative

by residents of your legislative district when it doesn't#

in fact, apply to them and does not apply to any other

county in the State of lllinois.''

Rotello: %We1l, we think that the county executive form of

government is good for county qovernments, and it's a good

government Bill and that's why hope you'd support it.''

Wennlund: ''Well, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, first of all,

to the Bill. The Governor's position has been seriously

misrepresented in the House chambers because in fact,

know that the Governor has not placed this as a legislative

initiative that should be Sponsored by Representative

Rotello. The Bill only affects the County of Will, which

is my home county. It does not affect, whatsoever,

Winnebago County, which is where the Sponsor's from.

rise in opposition to the Bill, and ask for 'no' votes.

There's no necessity for this Bill at the present time.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Gentleman from Winnebaqo, Representative

Giorgi.''

Giorgi: ''Representative Wennlund, in Mike Rotello's innocence,

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he's doing the work of the Republican Party in Winnebago

County. Winnebago County is now controlled by Republicans.

And, if decided, by ordinance, they decided by ordinance to

go, to elect their chief executive at large without home

rule powers. In fact, 1 have an Amendment to a Bill that's

going to extend the term of the county board chairman from

two to four years. So, this won't only affect Will, it

affects Winnebago. But, for many years here, those of us

that were from counties that were oi the opposite party,

always wanted to be able to hire our own attorney, our own

clerk, our own help, so that, at least, you know, we have

our lines of defense demarcated very well. He's doing the

work of the Republican Party of Winnebago County. They're

going to go to Chief Executive and theyrve owned the County

of Winnebago for 100 years and it's not going to change.

Let's help the boy along. his innocence, let's help

him.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Regan.n

Regan: ''Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Board. The Bill

indicates it takes power away from the county board members

that've been elected in Will County. Period. It removes

advise and consent. What are we trying to do here? One

county affected, one administrator and executive that wants

to become a dictator. think it's bad legislation all the

way down the line. Now, Mr. Gorbachev may get away with it

in Russia, but let's not do it in Will County. l've, 'no'

vote, please.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from Will, Representative McGuire.''

McGuire: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House, rise in support of this Bill, too, am from Will

County and although I'm a freshman Legislator here, 1 think

I've lived in Will County more than the other speakers,

because I'm older than they are. But: think the Bill is

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a good government Bill and don't think makes any

difference that the Sponsor is from Winnebago or 'Upper

Cupcake'. I think the Bill should stand on its own merits,

and it doesn't make any difference to me who the county

executive is and what county, I think the county executive

should be allowed to hire his own staff people such as the

Bill addresses. So I would urge your support for this

Bill. Thank you.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Further discussion. The Lady from Kane,

Representative Doederlein.''

Doederlein: ''Yes. I'm not sure that this only affects Will

County, because Kane County is going to the executive

county. So, if this Bill passes, then that would mean it

would also affect my county. Therefore, I think that we

should take a serious look at this, though the other

counties may be following suit, l think that we should look

very seriously, not only lil1 this affect Will County but

our own counties. So, advise we take...look seriously at

this and vote 'no'.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Hartke.''

Hartke: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. stand in support of

this legislation. think it's only common sense that if

you're the executive director elected in your county, that

yourre most intimate personnel and staff around you, thàt

you should have the right to hire those individuals.

you're saddled with the opposition's secretary, and so

forth, you're actually hampered in what you can do and

cannot do to administrate your new office. And think

it's a very good piece of legislation, and 1 urge all

Members to vote for

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Rotello, to close.n

Rotello: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would point out that webre

talking about an elected executive here, and it's already

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the will of the people of any county we're talking about.

That, if they voted the person in office, they certainly

have given him the confidence to be the executive. would

assume, that like when they vote for county auditors,

county clerks, county recorders, county treasurers, that

they allow those people to hire their own staff that

certainly they want to elect an executive to be able to

hire their own staff, as well. So, urge passage of this

Bill.>

Speaker Giglio: ''The question 'Shall House 838 pass?'

those in favor signify by voting 'aye, opposed 'nay' the

vote is open, this is final action. The fellow from Coles,

Representative Weaver.''

Weaver: 'Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't question the Sponsor's

motivation in this, but, if it's such a great idea maybe he

ought to start by doing it in his own district before he

does in someone else's district.''

Speaker Giglio: nHave all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who

wish? The Gentleman men from Fulton, Representative Homer.

Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Mr.

Clerk, take the record. On this question, there's 73

voting 'yes' 38 voting 'no' one voting 'present' and

House Bill 838 having received the required Constitutional

Majority, is hereby declared passed. RepresentativeBugielski. Representative Bugielski, the chamber?

House Bill 890. Representative Wojcik, for what purpose doyou arise? You want to change your vote? On . that last

Bill from 'no' to 'aye' from 'aye' to 'no'. Let the#

record indicate, Mr. Clerk, Representative Wojcik wants tochange her vote from 'aye' to 'nay'. Representative

Bugielski, do you want to call 890? 0ut of the record?

Representative Wolf, for 968. Representative Sam Wolf?

Out of the record. Representative Jones. Lou Jones?

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12037 Out of the record. Representative Burke, 1849.

Representative Burke? Do you want to call your Bill, 18497

Third Reading. Tobacco Control Act. Out of the record.

On the Special Order Call, Third Reading. On the Order of

Labor, appears House Bill 512, Representative Curriç?

Third Reading. 542. Mr. Clerk, read the Bi1l.n

Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 542, a Bill for an Act to amend an act

concerning Mammograms. Third Reading of the Bill.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Lady from Cook, Representative Currie.''

Currie: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Within

the last several years, we have provided, by legislation,

the private insurance, health insurance plans, and that the

state, through its own welfare department, will provide

preventive mammographyv to women at and over the age of 35,

at regularly scheduled intervals, as per the guidelines set

by the American Cancer Society. There is one group that we

could affect that we haven't and those individuals areF

'

covered by the provisions of House Bill 542. These

individuals are those who are either the dependents or the

employees of self-insured local governments in the state.

And, if we were to pass House Bill 542, we would close that

particular loophole in our existinq coverage of preventive

mammography for women under health insurance plans in the

State of Illinois. The statistics from the medical

community are pretty overwhelming, with respect to the

value of these baseline mammography programs that you can

find out about a breast cancer three years, with the

mammography, three years beiore there would be any other

kind of evidence that might be available to a physician on

an office or other physical examination. The survival

rates, with mammography, are substantially better than they

are without, and as I say this is not a new issue, we have

provided this kind of protection in leqislation before this

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Body over the last three years, and I hope I will enjoyyour support for passage of House Bill 542.''

Speaker Giorgi: ''Any discussion? Gentleman from Vermilion,

Representative Black.''

Black: ''Thank you very much, Speaker. Will the Sponsor

Xield?''

Speaker Giorgi: ''She indicates she wi11.''

Black: ''Thank you. Representative, think you have a good Bill

here, and I hope to be able to vote with you on this Bill,

mean that in a11 sincerity, but 1 think we do need to pay

attention to the fiscal note that was filed on March 2l.

You, perhaps, have had ample opportunity to review that.

lt carries, a, according to this note, a very expensive

impact, and I thought perhaps you could maybe refute those

figures or tell us what you have, to refute that fiscal

impact of about $8,000,000.''

Currie: ''I would refute the fiscal note, fact, I think that

when they were doing the analysis they misunderstood the

provisions of the Bill. We already provide this coverage

for women and for dependents covered by local government

health insurance that operates on the private market.

think that this fiscal note assumes rather, that all local

governments are self-insured governments for purposes of

health care. fact, the numbers that I've been able to

obtain from the Municipal League suggests that probably

only about l00 local governments in the State of Illinois

are self-insured and thus would be subject to theprovisions of House Bill 542. Of those local governments,

some, I am sure, already provide this kind of preventive

care in their current employee and dependent health

insurance programs. So, believe there was a

misunderstanding when the Fiscal note was drafted. I would

point out, further, Representative, that the savings that

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can be expected to local communities, by virtue of

providing adequate preventive care, will be very

substantial. The costs of care and treatment of an

advanced breast cancer are very substantial, not only in

terms of the likely loss oi life of the woman who is its

victim, but also in terms of the' dollars that those health

insurers are going to pay for extensive hospital stays,

extensive chemotherapy, and radiation therapies. So,

would argue that instead of costing any money, passage of

this Bill will save these local communities dollars that

they will not have to spend at the end stages of individual

lives.''

Speaker Giqlio: ''Next discussion.''

Black: 'Mr. Speaker, may I continue, please? As I recall, the a,

as recall the Sponsor's discussion in committee, think

she a, and she reminded me: I think that, and I appreciate

that, that IMRF automatically included everybody, and

think that's what skews their figures, correct? Okay?n

Currie: ''That's my understandinge''

Black: ''I'm glad that you pointed that out. The only other

question I have is the intent of Committee Amendment #l.

I'm still a little unclear as to what that does.'

Currie: ''Thank you, Representative. The point oi Amendment flis

to say that a local government which wishes to comply with

this provision, may do so either by permitting insurance

reimbursement to cover the cost of these preventative

mammographies, or, it may directly, itself, provide the

mammography at a site and location of its own choosing. In

effect, there are some local governments, Cook County is a

good example, that has its own hospitals. If Cook County

wanted to provide this coverage at Cook County Hospital,

the Amendment would permit that as an alternate way of

meeting the requirements of House Bill 542.1'

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Black: 'Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the Sponsor. This is a very

complicated Bill, and she has reminded us of some of the

discussion that was held in committee. We appreciate her

patience, am very pleased to rise in support of the

Lady's Bill.''

Speaker Giqlio: 'Representative Mccracken.H

Mccracken: ''Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?''

Speaker Giglio: ''She indicates she wi1l.''

Mccracken: ''Is there anything under current 1aw that prohibits a

local unit of government from providing this service, or

from providing this coverage it's self-insured. now?/

Currie: >No.>

Black: ''This would pre-empt home rule and require them to do

that? Is that correct?''

Currie: ''That's right.''

Black: ''Parlimentary Inquiry, will this .require 71 votes as

pre-empting home rule? sure the answer is 'yes'.

rise on a point of order then.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Parliamentarian informs the Chair that this

will take 60 votes, Representative Mccracken.''

Mccracken: ''Okay. You know that part of the Constitution in our

House Rule is so confusing, I honestly never know whether

it is 71 or 60. Can someone explain the Rule to me?''

Speaker Giqlio: ''Well, it's nice that you are raising those

questions again, Mccracken. The Chair loves to hear your

voice. Believe me.''

Mccracken: ''Okay. Well, 1'11 tell you, rise in opposition to

this Bill, and I know that I don't speak for anyone anymore

but, nevertheless 1 feel have to stand up and make a

stand. Apparently, there is no requirement that these

local units of government not do this. Meaning, that

the local unit of government chooses to do it, it may do

so. Therefs no prohibition. Why do we have to mandate it?

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Why do we have to pre-empt home rule? If the units of

government should be doing it, isn't they who should be

dealing with the employees via collective barqaining?

lsn't it the local taxpayers who should decide this? As

always, we have lots of good ideas down here, lots of

worthy goals, lots of important things to get done.

Invariably, we do not pay for it. This will require the

cities or villages or counties to pay for this. And

really, I suppose that you would have to call this a

mandate, and it's something we should fund. But, we don't

fund these things. We stand up, and we say nice things: we

go home, we tell people we've done the right thing, and we

put it on the backs of taxpayers who largely fund those

local units of government via the property tax, the very

property tax which is the problem in so many parts of this

state. I say vote 'no' or, at the very least, have the#

courage to appropriate what's necessary to pay this, and

don't know that we will have that courage. So, 1'm very

confident in recommending a 'no' vote.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Gentleman from Lake, Representative

Churchill.''

churchill: 'Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess 1 didn't hear the

answer to Representative Mccracken's question on whether or

not it takes an extraordinary majority of votes. Could you

please explain the Rule that says it's 60 votes instead of

71?/

Speaker Giqlio: ''Representative Churchill.'

Churchill: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker.'f

Speaker Giglio: ''Article A to the Constitution. 'The Illinois

General Assembly may provide specifically by law for the

excessive exercise by the state of any power function of

home rule unit other than a tax power or a power of a

function specific specified in paragragh paragragh (g)

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and paragraph (j)'.''churchill: ''And what is that? Does it say that it requires an

extraordinary majority of votes, right?''

Speaker Giglio: ''It does not require an extraordinary majority of

vote of

Churchill: ''Okay, the exceptions would be where there was some

Bill wefre doing over tax powers.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Correct.n

Churchill: 'Qt's a need-to-know basis? Made-as-instructed? ùsthat what it is?''

Speaker Giglio: ''That's correcto''

Churchill: ''We1l, that explains that. Thanks.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Youfre welcome. The Gentleman from Will,

Representative Regan.''

Regan: ''Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Members of the House. Will

the Sponsor yield for questions, please?''

Speaker Giglio: ''She indicates she will.''

Regan: ''Before I ask the question again, the rules are for

Republicans only. That's how goes? Right.

'Germaneness' is for Republican's only? Representative

Currie, does thiso.ol don't have a copy of the Bill in

front of me. Does this say that it goes 100% coverage, for

example, if they had a deductible for $150.00 it wou1d...''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Regan, was that a Parliamentary

inquiry?''

Regan: ''Yes. No, No. It's just a thoughtful statement.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Okay, proceedo''

Currie: ''This...the language of the Amendment, in effect says

that whatever kind of health insurance you're offering,

whether it is HMO or whether there is a deductible or what

have you, that same coverage would apply to this kind of

health care.n

Reqan: f'Alright, thank you.''

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Speaker Giglio: ''Further discussion? The Lady from Cook,

Representative Currie, to close.H

Currie: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This

is not a new concept, and it's critical for saving the

lives of Illinois women. In the past, we have required

coverage, base line mammography coverage, for our own state

employees, for employees who work in the private sector

across the State of Illinois and for clients of our

Department of Public Aid. House Bill 542 closes a loophole

under which, some public employees in this state are

not eligible for this kind of coverage. Let me remind you

that in Illinois we anticipate ,7000 new cases of breast

cancer on an annual basis. We expect that more than 2,000

women a year in Illinois will die of the disease of breast

cancer. We know, competent health authorities tell us that

we can stem that death rate. We can stop in its tracks.

If women, at and over the age of 35# have the opportunity

of preventive mammography. This measure will save lives,

and it will save money. Those local governments that fail

to understand the value of preventive mammography screenin:

are paying through the nose, in the costs of treatment, the

costs oi hospitalization, the costs of surgery, the costs

of death. I urge your support for a sound public health

measure, house Bill 542.%

Speaker Giglio: ''The question is, 'Shall House Bill 542 pass?'

Al1 those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed 'nay'.

The voting is open. This is final action. Have a11 voted

who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who

wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, 104

votin: 'yes' 2 voting 'no' and 5 voting 'present'. House#

Bill 512, having received the required Constitutional

Majority is hereby declared passed. Representative Curran,

House Bill 741. 0ut of the record. House Bill 774,

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Representative Turner. Representative Turner. Out of the

record. Representative Matijevich, House Bill 802. Mr.


Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 802, a Bill for an Act to amend certain

Acts in relationship to occupational health. Third Reading

of the Bi11.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Matijevich.''

Matijevich: ffYes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House.

House Bill 802 as amended is different than was as

introduced. As introduced, it would have provided a state

enforced through the Department of Labor Occupational

Health and Safety Act; The Bill has been amended so that

it shall only affect the public sector, and it is now

actually the Administration Bill, because of the Department

of Labor not only prepared the Amendment, but now supports

the Bill fully because gives statutory authority for the

Department of Labor to do what it has been doing under

intergovernmental agreement with the Industrial Commission.

As said, it only affects the public sector, and 1 would

appreciate your support for House Bill 802.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion? The Gentleman from Vermilion,

Representative Black.'

Black: ''Yes. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor

yield? Thank you. Representative, as amended in

committee, is it your understanding and intent that this

Bill, as amended, only affects the public sector?''

Matijevich: ''That is correct, Representative Black.''Black: 'Q t does...lt is your intent then, for the record, that

this Bill as directed by you and your intent does not have

any impact or effect on the private sector?''

Matijevich: ''That is correct.''Black: NThank you very much, Representative.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Matijevich to close.''

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Matijevich: ''Appreciate your support.''Speaker Giglio: ''The question is# 'Shall House Bill 802 pass?'

A1l those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed 'no'.

The voting is open. This is final action. Have al1 voted

who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Representative Leitch

votes 'aye' Tony. Leitch, 'aye'. Have a11 voted who

wish? Representative Hultgren, layef. Oh, Leitch wants,

votes 'no'. Change Representative Leitch's vote from faye'

to 'no', Mr. Clerk, and vote, Representative Hultgren.

Hultgren, 'no'. Representative Black. Representative

Matijevich.''

Matijevich: ''Speaker, think Representative Black is checking to

make sure what said was accurate, and it is accurate that

the Department of Labor supports the Bill, and the

Amendment is their Amendment because I think they want a

new Roll Call so that they can qet on board. I think

thatfs what Representative Black wants, and I'm happy to

accommodate him.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Mr. Clerk, is the machine fixed? Okay. The

question is, 'Shal1 House Bill 802 pass?' A11 those in

favor siqnify by voting 'aye', opposed 'nay'. The voting

is open. This is final action. Have a1l voted Who wish?

Leitch, 'aye'. Mr. Clerk, Leitch, 'ayef. Have a11 voted

who wish? Hultgren, 'aye'. Tenhouse, 'aye'. Have al1

voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this

question: ll3 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', and none voting

'present', House Bill 802, having received the requried

Constitutional Majority: is hereby declared passed. Haveal1 voted who wish? Third Reading. Representative

Mautino. Representative Mautino, House Bill 824.'1

Mautino: ''Personal request. would like to take this back to

Second Reading for the purposes of the Amendment that is

not ready. Please take it back to Secondm''

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Speaker Giglio: ''Take the Bill back to Second.''

Mautino: ''I ask leave.''

Speaker Giqlio: ''The Gentleman asks leave to take ihe Bill back

to Second and leave it on Second for the purpose oi

Amendment. Does the Gentleman have Leave by the Attendance

Roll Call? Hearing none, the leave is granted. The Bill

will remain on Second Reading. Representative Ryder, 962.

Out of the record. Representative Mautino, on 1008. 1006,

I'm sorry. Representative Mautino. Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.''


State Employees Group Insurance Act. Third Reading of the

Bil1.'f

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Mautino.''

Mautino: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House.

House Bill 1006 is the continuation of the local qovernment

health plan that we have allowed to be established under

CMS for local government entities. What 1006 would do

would give local governments the option to enroll their

employees in either the State Employees Group Insurance

Plan or any HMO which has contracted with the state to be

available as a health care provider. We had some areas

where there were no HMOs and here in Springfield, we have

an HMO that's certified by CMS and this legislation allows

for the local government to be involved in the HMO as well

as the state program. That's what it does. I move for its

adoption and passagep''

Speaker Giqlio: ''Any discussion? The question is, 'Shall House

Bill 1006 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting

'aye', opposed 'no'. The Board is open. This is final

action. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish?

Representative Edley. Hi. Have a1l voted who wish? Mr.

Clerk, take the record. On this question, ll4 voting

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'yes', 0 voting 'no', voting 'present' House Bill 1006

having received the required Constitutional Majority is

declared passed. Representative Saltsman: on 1811. Read



Prevailing Wage Act. Third Reading of the Bill. The

Gentleman from Flora, Representative Saltsman.''

Saltsman: lThank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1811 prohibits

employers from discharging, disciplining or discriminating

against any employee or union representative for filing

proceedings under the Prevailing Wage Law or for testifying

a hearing involving the administration or enforcement of

the law. Persons who believe that they have been

discharged, disciplined or suffered discrimination as a

consequence of exercising their rights under the Prevailing

Wage Law will be entitled to apply to the Director oi Labor

ior a hearing and review of the case. I ask for passage of

House Bill 811, 1811.*

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion? The Gentleman from Vermilion,


Black: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. A quick question of

the Sponsor. Thank you. Representative, the Bill, as

drafted, has no penalty provision that would prevent an

employee, you know, from filing a frivolous claim. Is

somethin: you could work on, perhaps, before it comes back

from the Senate? don't think it is your intent to have

employees just file a frivolous claim or claims that a,

clog up the system, create paper work and expense and what

have you. That's really our major concern with the Bill.''Saltsman: ''Yes. This will not do that because a polling will

have to be involved in some kind of an administration

hearing, so therefore, he wasn't involved in any part of

the Act or any part of the harassment, he wouldn't be

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filing a claim anyhow or the Director of Labor would refuse

to hear So, therefore, it's not anybody in

the...sector, the working sector, filed this claim. He had

to be involved within the proceedings of filing a wage

complaint on the Prevailing Wage Law. It's just not. So

therefore, it wouldn't clog up anything, in fact, it would

probably not happen too often, but there has been

harassment under this law for discharge and so on have been

made and this is their need to protect their work force./

Black: ''Alright. Thank you very much, Representativeo'f

Speaker Giglio: ''Further discussion. Representative Saltsman.''

Saltsman: ''Just ask for passage of House 3ill 1811.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The question is, 'Shall House Bill 18117'

(Inaudible thereafter.l''

(Inaudible tapel.''

Speaker Giqlio: ''Representative Saltsman to closeo''

Saltsman: ''Closing on House Bill 1811.''

Speaker Giglio: ''House Bill 1811. Voting. 1l2 'yes', 'no'.

Speaker Giglio: ''Out of the record, House Bill 489,

Representative Currie, Barbara Flynn Currie. Out of the

record. House Bill 1162. Representative Delaegher. Mr.



Respite Demonstration Program Act. Third Reading of the

Bi1l.H

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative

Delaegher.''

Delaeger: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the General

Assembly. House Bill 1162 basically deals with Alzheimers

and a11 of us that have been supportive of this legislation

realizes the importance of care for the indigent and

elderly. Respite care is in the home of a community based,

daycare center, during the day, overnight or for more

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experienced (sic extended) time on a temporary basis. A

respite care worker shall be trained to supervise and

assist the frail, abused or functionally disabled, impaired

older adult and to support the special needs oi the primary

care giver. Respite care, without a doubt, can be an

alternate to nursing home care. The Department of Aging is

not opposed to this Bill, and, may 1 say it again the

Department of Aging is not opposed to this Bill. The

Alzheimers Association chapters throughout the State of

Illinois are supportive of thisilegislation. And when we

talk about the Bill, when we talk about the finances o!

the Bill, the Bill is budget-neutral, the Bill is

budget-neutral. Respite services can be provided only to

community care eligible clients, and amount of service will

not exceed the current allowable maximum. The average cost

for a person to go to a nursing home is $30,000 plus they

can be on Medicaid, so goes without saying with the

implementation of this particular Bill, vast sums of money

could be saved. People would be more receptive to caring

for their own, and believe that this basically is a

re-election bid for each and every member of this staff.

think the senior citizens and those that are in need are

basically supportive of this concept: and I would submit a

'yes' vote. Thank you.?

Speaker Giqlio: nAny discussion? Representative Wennlund.p

Wennlund: ''Wi11 the Sponsor yield?''

Speaker Giglio: ''Indicates he will.''

Wennlund: ''Representative Delaegher is there a cost associated

with this to the State of Illinois?''

Delaegher: ''No, as I said before, Representative, it's a neutral

position basically, and the Department of Aging is

supportive of the concept of this Bill. This Bill has been

worked out with the Department of Aging and...these

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Alzheimers chapters throughout the State of Illinois.''

Wennlund: ''So theydre going to do this by just reallocatingexisting funds so they won't be requiring additional

expenditure?''

Delaegher: ''That's basically what is. It's going to

reallocate funds into different areas to provide for the

implementation of this legislation.''

Wennlund: ''Thank you. To the Bill, I rise in support of this

Bill, and think it's about time something like this was

done, Representative Delaegher, and 1'11 be voting in theN

'aye' column on this Bil1.''


Al1 in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed 'no'. The

voting is open this is the final action. Have all voted

who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the

record. On this question there are ll4 votinq 'aye' none#

votinq 'no' none votin: 'present', and House Bill 1162,

haviné receiving the required Constitutional Majority ishereby declared passed. Representative Currie on House

Bill 1171. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''


Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill.f'

Speaker Giglio: HRepresentative Currie,

Currie: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Téis

is a technical Bill that deals with medical assistance and

of working with the children's hospitals on this proposal,

and I would appreciate your support for its passage.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion? Gentleman from Vermilion.


Black: ''Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor

yield?''

Speaker Giglio: ''She indicates she willo,

Black: ''Thank you very much, Representative, our staff indicates

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that...that this is a vehicle Bill...are we off-target or

is it your intent to use this for somethin: later in the

Session?H

Currie: >Ah, thinks that's pretty much what explained,

Representative

Black: ''Could you tell us perhaps what you'd like to do on this

Bi1l?/

Currie: HWell, this is a Bill that was recommended to me by

people concerned about the provision of care for children.

And I do not believe that anything is likely to happen to

this Bill, unless there are some general aqreements among

those individuals and the Department of Public Aid.''

Black: ''Alright, then we could, we could rely on you. think

the key there were some general agreements. Would it be

your intent to hold the Bill until we had some general

agreements, that you had mentioned?''

Currie: ''That's right, Representative.''

Black: HThank you very much.''

Speaker Giglio: HFurther discussion? The question is, 'Shall

House Bill 1171 pass?' All in favor signify by votin:

'aye', opposed 'no' the voting is open. Have all voted#

who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who

wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question l03

votinq 'yes' 2 voting 'no' and none voting 'present' and

House Bill 1171 having received the required Constitutional

Majority is hereby declared passed. Representative Andrew

McGann. Representative McGann. Out of the record.

Representative White, 1268. Out of the record. We have

1268, 1270, and 1677. Alright, Representative Manny

Hoffman. House Bill 1691. Are you ready, Sir? Would you

like to run with this Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bi11.''

Clerk Leone: f'House Bill 1691, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill.ff

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Speaker Giglio: ''The Gentleman from Homewood, Representative

Hoffman.''

Hoffman: OThank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill that will

certainly help our Medicare people and certainly our senior

citizens, as we all know that from time to time we see ads

in the newspaper that um, claim to do things on insurance

that sometimes our senior citizen people get involved in

and this Bill will prevent that. What will happen here is

the information on this Bill will go to the Department of

Insurance and at that time all information will be a, made

sure it's correct in order for to be put in an ad, and

think this Bill certainly will protect our seniors...most

of which we will be one of these days. And I'm sure it

will be important to our seniors in a1l of our districts.''

speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion? The Gentleman from Coles,

Representative Weaver.''

Weaver: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the..osponsor

yield?p

Speaker Giglio: >He indicates he wil1.''

Weaver: ''Representative, just to try and help us understand themotivation behind this Bill. Do you have a vested

interest, are you o1d enough to qualify for senior citizens

benefits under this Bi1l?'

Hoffman: ''No, I'm still a little short of qualifying, but I think

there are...''

Weaver: ''Yours height doesn't have anything to do with it./

Hoffman: ''No, No, I don't have anything to do with this Bill, and

ah, I think that it's just a good Bill and.o.it's a Billthat will protect our seniors and that's why I'm presenting

here today and also is a first Bill for me so I'm

standing here ah, looking for your help and guidapce.''

Weaver: ''Well, that may have just tubed this thing. Thank you.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Gentleman from Rock Island. Representative

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Delaegher.''

Delaeqher: ''Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the General

Assembly. It gives me great pride to stand in support of

Representative Hoffmands, first Bill legislation. If ah,

Representative Hoffman retains that type of posturing,

without a doubt he'll become a formidable Representative,

so I ask everybody to be supportive of 1691.H

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from Lee, Representative Myron Olson.''

Olson, M: ''Thank you Mr. Speaker will the Sponsor yield?o

Speaker Giglio: ''He.indicates he wi11.'p

Olson, M: ''Representative Hoffman, you're immediately jumping

into a posture where you're going to slip somebody a Class

3 felony if they don't comfort with your legislation?

Would you respond, Sir? Im looking at my synopsis, ah,

Class 3 felony unless they follow your procedure. Do you

you know what the term for Class, what the length of

incarceration is for Class 3?'1

Hoffman: '1...1 think it's 5 weeks.''

Olson, M: H5 weeks and about 6 years. Do your elderly friends

want to join you in this?''Hoffman: ''Well, 1et me tell you that a think someone like

yourself who is proably in that age bracket, will be

protected by this Bill.''

Olson, M: ''We11, already you see, Members of the General

Assembly, he's been here a matter of weeks, and then he's

classifying some of us as elderly, which 1 am happy to be

one. But when you authorize civil penalties, Class 3

felonies and ask this General Assembly to support that in

your first Bill, you better go back to look at your notes.

don't think I can vote for this terrible measure./

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Lang.''

Lang: eThank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?e

Speaker Giglio: ''He indicates he will.f'

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Lang: 'L ..Representative, have you had a huge hue and cry in your

district over this issue? Have you had a lot of letters.

and phone calls?''

Hoffman: have had a number of phone calls from senior that

have been duked on some of these ah, pieces of advertising,

and I certainly have told them that I would brin: this to

the ah, General Assembly.''

Lang: ''We11, what have they said to you when theyrve called

specifically?'

Hoffman: ''They're said that they have paid $3.96 for an insurance

policy and never were able to collect.n

Lang: ''Would you consider this in the area of Insurance Reform

Legislation?''

Hoffman: would think so, yes.''

Lang: ''Well are you sure you're on the right side of the aisle?''

Hoffman: H...sometimes I wonder.H

Lang: ''We greatly appreciate that, and we will be over to talk to

you about that shortly, and I just want to clarify for

those on this side of the aisle, this is your first Bill.

Is that correct?''

Hoffman: ''Yes.''

Lang: ''Well, we will have to think very carefully about it, thank

Y C V * P

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative

Hoffman.'

Hoffman, J: ''Representative Hoffman just have a couple of quick

questions. I think this is â good Bill. want to vote

f'or it, and you would like us to vote for it because it is

your first Bill, is that right?,

Hoffman, M: 'Q 'd like to thank my brother, Jay Hoffman, for

standing up there because half of the time when they yell

'Hoffman', don't know if it's him or me, so I would

appreciate his support on this.''

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Hoffman, J.: ''And you would like us to support this because is

your first Bill, and it's a good ideap''

Hoffman, M.: ''And it's a good idea, yesp''

Hoffman, J.: 'L ..Representative Rotello recently had his first

Bill, up didn't he? How did you vote on Representative

Rotello's first Bill?>

Hoffman, M.: ''I didn't realize it was his first Bil1.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from Morgan, Representative Ryder.''

Ryder: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?'l

Speaker Giglio: HHe indicates he wi11.H

Ryder: ''Thank you. Representative, I've had an opportunity to

actually read the analysis on this Bill, and all frivolity

aside, there are a couple of things I'd like to ask you

about, if I may. It indicates that it does amend the

Insurance Code, and you'll require that standards be in

place by November 5th of 1991. Is that correct?''

Hoffman, M.: ''Yes.P

Ryder: ''Those standards, would they be promulgated by the

Department of Insurance?''

Hoffman, M.: ''Yes, they would.''

Ryder: ''And would those be required to go through the Joint

Committee on Administrative Rules?''

Hoffman: M.: ''I believe so.o

Ryder: ''Do you actually believe that you can qo through that time

period, excuse me, go throuqh that process in that short a

time period. given that we now on the lst day of May and

it's likely not going to be until sometime this summer into

actually making a law?''

Hoffman, M.: ''We're going to make an attempt to do that,

Representative.n

Ryder: ''I'm a little concerned just about setting up that kind ofarbitrary standard for the date and then not having an

opportunity. I have the opportunity to serve on the Joint

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Committee on Administrative Rules, and I'm not sure that

they could make that.''

Hoffman, M.: ''The date is the federal requirement.''

Ryder: ''The date, so this is a federal mandate. Ah,

Representative Black continues to ask questions through my

microphone. This is a federal mandate without.ooany

dollars that are coming through? And you think that's a

good thing to do? When you were Mayor of...'f

Hoffman, M.: ''There's no substantial increase in cost on this.''

Ryder: ''When you were Mayor of a Municipality of northeastern

Illinois, did you ever have any words about state mandates?

Did you say anything about the wisdom of the Legislature?''

Hoffman, M.: ''We had many discussions on mandates.''

Ryder: ''Would you care to share with us of those thoughts about

the wisdom of the Legislature making mandates and now

youdre feeling the brunt of this federal mandate? I'm

sorry, Representative Hoffman, didn't hear your

responseo''

Hoffman, M.: ''This should not cost the Department anything.''

Ryder: ''No, I didn't ask you that. Your thoughts concerning

state mandates when you were representing a municipality.''

Hoffman, M.: ''When was representing a municipality, we were

very concerned about mandates and we are concerned here, as

all of us are concerned, about mandates.''

Ryder: ''And of course, as a municipality you never, ever asked

the state for help to do anything, did you?,

Hoffman, M.: ''Never asked the state for any help.''

Ryder: ''Thanks. Enviable record. Thank you.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Chair would like to recognize the lovely

lady in the back of the chamber, Dr. Cross, the President

of Chicaqo State University. Welcome to Springfield.

Further discussions. The Lady from Cook, Representative

Schakowsky.''

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Schakowsky: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?''

Speaker Giglio: HHe indicates he will.n

Schakowsky: HRepresentative Hoffman, this is a serious question.

I'm looking at the synopsis and, while I applaud almost

everything in your Bill, I do have one question, in the

synopsis it says that the Bill 'removes a provision

prohibiting renewal or Amendment of policies that duplicate

benefits provided by Medicare'. It sounded to me like

something that might remove a consumer protection, and

just wanted to hear your explanation.,Hoffman: ''I'm not sure what yourre talking about 'removing

anythingd.H

Schakowsky: ''It says, 'removes a provision prohibiting renewal or

Amendment to policies that duplicate benefits provided by

Medicare'. just wanted to be sure that it doesn't removesome protection afforded to the elderly in these policies.''

Hoffman: ''I'm not aware that it removes anything. regard to

any medical benefits from the elderly. There no

substantive changes in any of the Medicare benefits.H

Schakowsky: ''It's not the benefits. It has to do with the

renewal or Amendment of policies. I'm reading right from

the synopsis.f'

Hoffman: ''It's not a substantive change.H

Schakowsky: OThank you.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from Fulton Representative Homer.''

Homer: ''Question for the Sponsor...Representative Hoffman,

think the Lady raised a good question. I don't know that

youfve answered it. Ah, does the Bill remove the

prohibition against providing duplicated benefits? In

other words, under curreht law there's a prohibition

against sellinq the supplemental policies that duplicate

benefits that are provided by Medicare. The synopsis and

on page 3 of the Bill would seem to indicate that

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prohibition is being removed.''

Hoffman: HTom, on page 3, that has been reworded in sentence, in

line, starting at l4. A1l it has has been reworded. It

has not been removed.''

Homer: ''Oh, I see, other words, you reworded it to say that

ah, no contract that provides duplicate benefits shall be

issued.''

Hoffman: ''Right, nothing has been taken out of the original.''

Homer: ''I see, I think that's a reasonable explanation of that.

Let me ask the John Cullerton question since he's not here.

Ah, you make it a Class 3 felony to a offer one of these

policies for sale without being approved by the Director of

Insurance. Is there a requirement that you knowingly

commit that act?''

Hoffman, M.: ''1...I'm sorry. What was the question? All these

hecklers are hereo''

Homer: ''I was asking the John Cullerton question, that he always

asks and 1'm sure he will it gets to the Senate. 1s,

you're creating a Class 3 felony, that's a maximum of 5

years in prison, 1 believe, and 10,000 fine or b0th, and

the question is whether to commit that offense is a person

required to have knowledge or must the offense be committed

knowingly,before they can be guilty of that offense?''

Hoffman, M.: OYes, it's on page 3...page I'm sorry. Page

at the bottom of page

Homer: 'Now it goes on, though on page l4, to provide a civil

penalty of up to $5,000, and the language does not indicate

whether knowledge is a requirement for that cause of

action. It just says any person who violates the

provisions may be subjected to a civil penalty, not to

exceed $5,000. Is for purpose of legislative intent is

it your intention that the knowing requirement be an

element also, or a condition precedent to a successful

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recovery under the civil action that you provide? ln other

words, do you...$5,000 civil penalty they can't go to jailbut you're going to sue them for violating this Act. To be

sucsessful do you have to prove that they knew that they

violated the Act??

Hoffman, M.: ''Right.''

Homer: ''Well, I think it's important that you clarify. The Bill

doesn't...''

Hoffman, M.: 'Q think the knowing provision would apply to b0th

of them.''

Homer: ''Well you know what usually these matters where

'knowing' is in one sentence and left out of the following

sentence, the courts may interpret it as...having been

omitted for a reason that being that the Legislature did

not intend it to be an element of the cause of 'action, and

just want to know for purpose of legislati've intent, isyour intention that knowledge be a condition of,

precedent to the successful recovery under that civil

penalty provision.''

Hoffman, M.: ''Yeah, that's fine.''

Homer: ''1'm sure some justice somewhere will take that quote asthe basis for a learned opiniono'

Hoffman, M.: ''Yes, have my attorney standing by here.

Knowledge is a condition.''

Homer: ''For both the criminal penalty and the civil penalty?'

Hoffman, M.: ''Yes.''

Homer: HYou might suggest to the Senate Sponsor that they might

want to put an Amendment in if that Bill gets over to the

Senate. Finally, is this...is this was this Lolita

Dedricson's Bill?''

Hoffman, M.: ''No no, wasn't.''

Homer: ''Oh, that's too bad. owed Lolita.H

Hoffman: ''And, you don't owe me, right? Is there no justice?''

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Speaker

May 1, 1991

Hearing none,Giglio: ''Further discussions?

Representative Hoffman to close.p

Hoffman, M.: HThank you very much, Mr. Speaker. think this is

an excellent Bill, and I think it's goinq to do a of

good for our senior citizens. and I would hope that this

General Assembly, this House would back me up on this Bill,

and I certainly appreciate a11 the input, and I will take

this to heart.H

Speaker Giglio: ''The question is# 'Shall House Bill 1691 pass?'

A11 those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed 'no'.

The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l

voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take

the record. On this question there are ll3 voting 'yes', 1

voting 'no' votin: 'present'. House

Bill...Representative McGuire votes 'aye'. Representative

Satterthwaite. Representative Woolard, Woolard votes

'aye'. On this question there are now 1l5 voting 'yes'

none voting 'no' and none voting 'present', and House Bill

1691, having received the required Constitutional Majorityis hereby declared passed. House Bill 1797 Representative

Levin. Levin. Representative Curran on House Bill 1831.

Mr. Clerk, read the Bi11.''


in relationship to Federal Income Tax Credit. Third

Readin: of the Bi1l.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Curran.''

Curran: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1831 sponsored by

Curran, Kubik, Young, and Currie. Requires that employers,

at least those employers that are required to provide

unemployment insurance to employees, should be required to

notify all employees along with the employees W2 Tax

Withholding Form, that they may be eligible for Earned

Income Tax Credits. As you know Earned Income Tax Credits

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are designed to strengthen work incentives for low-income

families, and without this kind of a program, many

low-income families may decide to be on Public Assistance.

Ah, this would include families earnings under $20,000, but

the greatest benefits of these federal dollars would go to

families with earnings under $10,0000. dollars. This Bill

passed out of committee 10 to 0. It's on Short Debate. Be

glad to answer any questions. Ask for favorable Roll

Ca 1 1 . ''

Speaker Giglio: OAny discussion? The Gentleman irom Will

Representative Wennlund.''

Wennlund: HWill the Sgonsor yield?''

Speaker Giglio: ''He indicates he wi11.''

Wennlund: ''Does the Department of Public Aid have a position

regarding this Bill, Representative Curran?''

Curran: ''To be honest with you, Larry, ! don't know.''

Wennlund: ''My understanding is that the Department is opposed to

the Bill because a duplication of what the Department

already does. My understanding is that the Department

currently sends notices to AFDC recipientso..that, in fact,

they are eligible for a federal Earned Income Tax Credit.l

Curran: nLarry, don't doubt that. This would, this would

include however people who are not on AFDC, people who are

employed and not on AFDC but employers would tell them that

they may be eligible for these federal dollars. Seems to

me to be a good thing for us to do, to 1et Illinois

residents, who are employed, become aware that .they may be

eligible for some federal dollars.''

Wennlund: ''How does the employer know whether or not the employee

would be eligible for those federal dollars?''

Curran: '' the/..the notice could come from the Internal RevenueService or f'rom the Illinois Department of Public Aid.''

Wennlund: ''So does the Bill only require the employer to notify

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the employee if the employer has been notified that,in

fact,the employee is eligible?''

Curran: ''1 don't think so, think what the Bill requires is that

employers will notify all employees that they may be

eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit.''

Wennlund: HIs there any penalty for failure to notify?''

Curran: ''Larry, there is nothing I see here that indicates any

new penalty because of this Act.'t

Wennlund: ''Thank you, no further questionsop

Speaker Giglio: ''Further discussion? The Gentleman from McHenry,

Representative Klemm.'

Klemm: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a

question?''

Speaker Giglio: ''Proceed.''

Klemm: ''How often does the employer, Representative Curran, have

to notify the employee that there may possibly be a tax

credit?''

Curran: ''It would just be on that occasion, when they receive theW2 that they would be notified that they may be elgible for

Earned Income Tax Credit, in other words, once a year.''

Klemm: ''Well, now the W2 is the earnings report. Is that what

you're talking about, that every time the employer gives an

earnings report to the employee they would have to again

notify them that there may be tax credits available?''

Curran: ''I'm sorry, would you ask your question again?''

Klemm: f'Every time the employer gives the employee a wz, an

income statement if you will, they would have to notify

that employee?''

curran: GAre you asking me to explain it another way...''

Klemm: ''Is that when they would do

Curran: ''Yes, yes, what happens is that ah, the notice furnished

to employers or created by employers, to notify their

employees shall state as follows: 'If you earned less than'

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(and whatever the number of dollars would be ior that year)

'last year and have at least one child you may be eligible

to receive a Tax Credit from the Federal Government. A Tax

Credit maybe a refund from the Federal Government for as

much as' (and then those dollars would change from year to

year), 'you must file a Tax Return to claim the Earned

Income Tax Credit.f That language is in the law.''

Klemm: ''So the employer would have to fill in this form annually

and give it to each employee, is that right?''

Curran: ''I don't think this law is changing that, this law

doesn't change what... the language that I simply read to

you is already in the 1aw and is not changed. What the

employer would do then is notify the employee when they are

providing their W2 Tax Witholding Form.''1

Klemm: HAlright, so as understand it you have a relatively

simple form, in your opinion?''

Curran: ''Simple in that I've just read it to you, and it's one

paragrapho''

Klemm: ''And the employer would be required to have these printed

up, they're not provided by any state department or

Department of Revenue or anything else. It could be in any

form they want as lonq as they say substantially what

you're sayinq. Do they have to give it to the employee

every time the year-end earning report is sent to the

employer? The State of Illinois will they send it to you

and when we get our W2s from the state. Would that be a

part of it? Are we considered employees?H

Curran: ''I don't know if we're considered employees. But if we

are, according to this law, then we have to be notified as

wel1.H

Klemm: ''Alright, so everybody's covered then right?''

Curran: ''Yes.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Further discussion. Gentleman from Sangamon,

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Representative Curran, to close.''

Curran: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I think werve explained this.

This simply makes it easier for Illinois residents to learn

about available federal tax dollars that we may access with

no cost to the State of Illinois.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The question isy 'Shall House Bill 1831 pass?

A1l those in favor vote 'aye', opposed 'no'. The voting is


Bugielski 'aye'. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take

the record. On this question voting 'yes' none voting#

'no', and l voting 'present'. House Bill 1831 having

received the required Constitutional Majority is herebydeclared passed. House Bill 273. Representative Jesse

White. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.'

Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 273, a Bill for an Act in relationship

to health and nutrition. Third Reading of the Bi1l.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from Cook, Representative White.?

White: NMr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen 'of the House. This

Bill was heard lést Session, and it passed out of this Body

with an overwhelming number of votes...this Bill will

provide that the Illinois Public Hea1th Department

establish a program where they would monitor the

distribution of food stuff to a 1ot of the people

throuqhout the State of Illinois who happen to fall between

the cracks. The food is there but we need a cooperative

effort on the part of the State of Illinois, and this Bill

will identify the Illinois Department of Public Hea1th to

implement this program. I move for its passage.l

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion? Representative Black.''

Black: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor

Xield?''

Speaker Giglio: ''Indicates he wil1.''

Black: ''Representative...as amended would, is this now a

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permissive Act rather than a mandated Act or...''

White: ''No, this a mandated Act and I talked with Public Health

Department earlier today, and they wanted to know if 1

could make it permissive, and I said that if the Department

of Public Health had done what was asked of them then we

would not be to this Order of Business and that is trying

to pass a Bill that would set them up as the agency that

would have the responsibilty of making sure that the people

are aware oi the fact that there is food out there for

them, and 1 think that if, by chance: this Bill is passed

then we're talking about healthy babies, healthy senior

citizens, a healthy society and when that happens, al1 of

us benefit, but now the grants are permissive./

Black: ''Would you look at Floor Amendment #l? Lets see if we're

looking at the same language here. As I look at your

Amendment #l, it appears to me that you've deleted

provisions which specifically require the Director of

Public Health to administer this program,

that...furthermore, you say that you 'allow' the director

to make grants rather than say that the director 'shall'

make grants and then put these grants under the program

established by this Act, so if I'm reading this correctly,

it would appear that you are, you have, in fact, taken some

of the mandated aspects of the program out by Floor

Amendment #1.''

White: Okay, the grants would be permissive, but we would like

for there to be someone who would coordinate these

programs, and the Bill asks that the Illinois Public Hea1th

Department be that agency.''

Black: ''If I could, Representative, I'm not sure what...what the

fiscal note might have shown, do you have any idea Vhat the

cost might be?''

White: ''It's very, very small based on what this Bill seeks to

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do.''

Black: 'Is...would $150,000 cost, you think, be reasonable??

White: ''What is that fiqure again?''

Black: ''150 000.''

White: ''Well, that is the Department's estimate, and I happen to

believe that it's would be considerably less and then it

goes back to that old saying, ;Do I pay more now or pay a

lot more later?' What I'm really trying to say to you,

Representatiye Black, is this: that there are a 1ot of

products out there, a lot of food that the people need,

want and desire and are eligible for them, and most of

these dollars or this food that wefre talking about, is

through the federal government. And a1l we want to do is

to make sure that the people know that they're out there,

and we want to make sure that we have someone who is going

to direct this coordinated effort so the people can be

properly served.''

Black: ''Okay, so I think what some of the confusion might have

been, Representative, is that there was some...indications

that you may have reached an agreement with the department

on this Bill but if I heard you correctly you have not

reached an agreement with the Department of Public Hea1th

on this Bill.''

White: ''Well, the only real opposition, we agreed with regard to

the concept, the Illinois Education Department had a

problem with it, we resolved theirs, and I think that...the

Public Health Department realized the importance oi this

Bill, and think their only opposition is because of the

small amount that it's going to cost for the program to be

implemented.''

Black: ''But, it appears then that you have a good idea here, but

it's dependent on dollars that may or may not be

appropriated, would that be a fair statement?''

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White: ''Well, we

May 1, 1991

hope to save money in the long run because when

you have a healthy society, then all of us benefit. Ii, by

chance, you have to go to the hospital, and we don't bring

into this world healthy babies and...if a kid cannot go to

school because of lack of food and the elderly are not

receiving their food stuff, then it goes right back to

sending someone to the hospital, goes back to long-term

care and talk about long-term care in terms of those that

come into this world at a very, very young aqe.''

Black: ''Representative, I thank you for your patience.''

Speaker Giglio: HFurther discussion? Hearing none. The question

is, 'Shall House Bill 273 pass?' A1l those in favor

,signify by voting 'aye', opposed 'no'. The voting is open.

Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have

all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this

question there are 92 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no' 18t

votinq 'present', and House Bill 273, having received the

required Constitutional Majority is hereby declaredpassed. Representative White do you want to hear 426?

1268, 1268 Mr. Clerk, read the Bill.''


Emergency Medical Services. Third Reading of the Bill.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Gentleman from Cook, Representative Whiteo''

White: HMr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is

a simple Bill that really should have been on the Agreed

Bill list. Al1 does is sets up disciplinary

procedures for Emergency Medical Services Technicians, and

it would allow the Director of the Department of Public

Hea1th to revoke licenses.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is,

'Shall House Bill 1268 pass?' Al1 those in favor siqnify

by voting 'aye', opposed lno'. The voting is open. This

is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted

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who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record, Mr.

Clerk. On this question l09 voting 'yes', none 'nol, and

none voting 'present and House Bill 1268, havin: received

the required Constitutional Majority is hereby declared

passed. House Bill 1270. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk Leone: HHouse Bill 1270, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Emergency Medical Services Act. Third Reading of the

B i l l . ''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative White.'

White: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this,

too, is a technical cleanup. It changes the word from

'certified' to 'licensed' technician. That's basically

what the Bill does.''

Speaker Giglio: HGentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black.''

Black: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Just for the record,

the Department of Public Health is favor of this Bill.

We have no problem with the Bill I just would address an

Amendment to the Sponsor that the Department would like you

to get put on in the Senate if you would, think they've

talked to you about it, there's a drafting error relating

to the terminology. In subsection dealing with teaching

CPR, and they would like for you to get that amended before

the Bill goes to the Governor's desk, and see you nodding

your head that youbll do that. I'd be glad to support your

Bill.''


All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed 'no'. This is final

action. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish?

Representative Peterson votes 'aye' Mr. Clerk. Have all

voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this

question ll6 voting 'aye' none voting 'no' none voting

'present' and House Bill 1270 having received the required

Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed.

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Representative White, on House Bill 1677. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 1677, a Bill jor an Act to amend an Act

concerning hospitals and health care. Third Reading of the

Bi11.''

Speaker Giglio: HRepresentative Whiteo''

White: HMr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House Bill: 1677

is a shell Bill, and it's an outgrowth of the Chicago

Health Summit, and nothing will be placed on the Bill that

will be controversial. It has to be agreed upon before

will act upon it.''


A11 those in favor vote 'aye', opposed 'no'. The voting is

open. This is final action. Have a11 voted who wish?

Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr.

Clerk, take the record. On this question there are l05

voting 'yes' none voting 'no' and 5 voting 'present' and# F

House Bill l6...Representative Olson votes 'aye'.

Representative Kirkland votes 'aye'. There are now 107

voting 'aye', and none voting 'no' and 5 voting 'present'

and House Bill having received the

required...Representative Petka want to vote 'aye'? Put

Petka on. Changes the vote to l08 voting 'aye', none

voting 'no', and 5 voting 'present', and this Bill having

received the required Constitutional Majority is herebydeclared passed. Representative Levin. Out of the record.

The Chair is qoing to return to the Order of Second Reading

on the Regular Calendar on page 5 where we left off. And

on that order appears House Bill 204 Representative

Hoffman, Hoffman. Out of the record. House Bill 208.

Representative Schakowsky. Out of the record.

Representative Currie on House Bill 215 read the Bill, Mr.'

Clerk. Page 5 of the Calendar. Regular Order of Business.

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House Bill. Second Reading.''


School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no


Speaker Giglio: pThird Reading. House Bill 225, Representative

LeFlore. Representative LeFlore in the chamber? Out of

the record Mr. Clerk. House Bill 242 Representative

Obrzut. Representative Obrzut. House Bill 242, Second

Readinq. Page 6 of the Calendar. Out oé the record.

House Bill 257, Representative Ropp. Representative Ropp.


Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 257 a Bill for an Act to amend the

Juvenile Court Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are

no Committee or Floor Amendments.''


McNamara. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerko''

Clerk Leone: ''House 3i1l 262, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Deposit of State Moneys Act. Second Reading of the Bill.



Preston. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk Leone: 'House Bill 272, a Bill for an Act to amend the Fees

and Salaries Act. Second Readin: of the Bill. There are

no Committee or Floor Amendments. And the fiscal note has

been filed.''

Speaker Giglio: HThird Reading. House Bill 276. Representative

Matijevich. Out of record. Representative Steczo.

Representative Matijevich, excuse me, 276. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 276, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code

of Civil Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment

41 was adopted in committee.l


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42nd Leqislative Day

clerk Leone: nNo Motions filed.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any Floor Amendments?

clerk Leone: f'Floor Amendment 42 is being offered by

Representative Matijevich.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Matijevich.n

Matijevich: 'Yes...Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. This Amendment was drafted because the Bill as

May 1, 1991

introduced was a, was more encompassing and too broad;

there were some who felt that may affected smalll

business; it may have atfected the malpractice, and this

Bill now would be, strike everything after the enacting

clause and would create a new Act which would be sighted as

the Product Liability Court records Sealing Act. This now

would only go after to keep open records with regards to

the, to the large product liability cases, as a protection

for the public. And I would move for its adoption.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on the Amendment? Hearing none.

Al1 those in favor. The Gentleman from Will:

Representative Wennlund.''

Wennlund: ''Thank you Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?'

Speaker Giglio: ''Indicated he wi1l.''

Wennlund: ''Does the Floor Amendment #2 limit the application of

the Act only to settlement of product liability cases?''

Matijevich: ''That's correct. It applies to actions for personal

injury or death arising out of product liability actions.''Wennlund: ''Have tHe Illinois Manufacturers Association and the

Associated Employers of Illinois...signed off on the Bi1l?>

Matijevich: ''Oh, don't think so, but there are others who have,naturally, but I would think that those two that you

mentioned would still be opposed to the Bill.P

Wennlund: ''And with respect to a settlement agreement under what

circumstances can a court order...the file closed to the

public?''

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Matijevich: >We1l,it relates

May 1, 1991

the court could order a file be closed where

to...trade secrets, for example...documents

filed with court in camera solely for the purpose of

obtaining a ruling under discover building of the

documents, documents in court files to which access is

otherwise restricted by law...as I said the trade secrets

and believe there was one other trade secrets or other

proprietary rightso''

Wennlund: ''So, that, in the event that a settlement aqreement

involves a trade secret...by a manufacturer in that

instance that record would not be open to the public upon

his Motion?''

Matijevich: ''That's correct.''

Wennlund: eTo the Amendment, Mr. Speaker. The I understand the

purpose behind the Amendment, but what I don't understand

is is the action that, any action that's pending. think

that instead of cloggin: the court system, we ought to be

promoting settlement and that legislation like this will

only distract from the settlement of existing litigation in

product liablilty cases. And I think what we ought to do

is encourage settlement and instead of litigating something

al1 the way to the end. that might involve a trade secret

or might involve some process that may be patented by a

manufacturers that the public has no reasonable right to

know. Now if it's something hazardous or a hazardous

condition, that's one thing, but when it comes to a process

that may be a patented process...it gets close to a trade

secret, you run into problems with this Amendment, and I'd

ask for a Roll Call Vote on the Amendmentp''

Speaker Giqlio: ''Further discussion? Representative Santiago.''

Santiago: ''Thank you Mr. Speaker. Would the Gentleman yield for

a question?''

Speaker Giglio: ''Indicates he will.''

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Santiago: ''John, has the Illinois Medical Society signed off on

this Amendment?'

Matijevich: ''Well, I would think they would have had to sign offbecause now it does not pertain to malpractice at all. So

haven't talked to them.''

Santiago: ''You haven't talked to them?''

Matijevich: ''No, but those who have asked me to prepare the

Amendment: said that was one of the reasons to prepare the

Amendment so that, that would remove their opposition.''

Santiago: ''Wello.obefore, before I vote on it...I got to talk to

them. Will you hold on Third Reading?/

Matijevich: *On Third Reading I will let you know for sure.will talk to them first.''

Santiago: ''Okay, thanks.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Gentleman from...Representative Kirkland

from Kane.''

Kirklandk ''Thank you. Would the Sponsor yieldr'

Speaker Giglio: ''He indicates he wi1l.''

Kirkland: ''Thank you. The current law in these kinds of cases am

correct, is that if the parties petition the court they

can have the court file sealed. Is that basically

correct?''

Matijevich: *1 didn't hear...l didn't hear you, Jimp''Kirkland: ffokay, is the current, is correct, that the current

law the parties settle the action and..epetiton the

court for the...file to be sealed, that it would happen?''

Matijevich: ''That's correct.''

Kirkland: ''...and this would put...and they can do that without

cause and effect, they don't have to meet any burden to

have the file sealed?''

Matijevich: ''Thatfs right.''Kirkland: ''Alright, and this would change the law so that they

for the parties to have the file sealed they would have to

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you know show that there were trade secrets involved or

something else that would be harmful you know harmful to

the public, or whatever.''

Matijevich: ''Right.''

Kirkland: ''Alright, and...just a second. That's thank you.'fSpeaker Giglio: HThe Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lang.''

Lang: ''Thank you Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I rise in

support of this Amendment. You know, this a dramatically

scaled down version of the original Bill. There was a lot

of controversy surrounding the original Bill, and because

of the scaled down version would venture to say that

there's a dramatic decrease in the amount of opposition

among some of the people that have contacted some of the

Members on this Bill. They may still be against, but it

certainly is a dramatic decrease, and it certainly is a

much different...Amendment, much different Bill than used

to be. And I think it's important to note that...we as

Members of the General Assembly are always dealing with

freedom of information and public access to public records.

We have a stake in the appropriateness of keeping court

files open, so the general public knows what's going on in

courts. We don't want to close our court system to the

public because the public has a right to know what's going

on there. I support this good Amendment.'

Speaker Giglio: ''Further discussion? The Gentleman from

Champaign, Representative Johnson.''

Johnson: ''Well think the last speaker addressed what we're#

really debating here. We're not debating the underlying

Bill or the merits of that, we're debating Floor Amendment

#2, and what Representative Matijevich has done and seeks

to do with this Amendment is to address at least many of

the concerns that were raised in Judiciary Committee, for

fear that this Bill went too far. So that this Bill

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eliminates a

May 1, 1991

vast, vast majority I would gather to sayprobably 99% of the cases, that the oriqinal Bill would

have been applicable to, and limited to one narrow set of

cases, for policy reasons that Representative Matijevich

may address in more detail on Third'Reading. The only

issue now is, 'Are you in favor of an Amendment that limits

the application of the Bill to those narrow set of

circumstances that he's described?' and even those who

might oppose the underlying' concept, I would think, would

be favor of something that...that...limited the scope. So

think it's a good Amendment and 1 hope we vote 'yes'.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Matijevich to close.''

Matijevich: ''...Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of theHouse. The last two speakers hit the nail on the head.

This is a scaled down version of the Bill as introduced,

and the scaled-down version eliminates the opposition oi

those who are concerned about the medical malpractice

c'ases, and some of the small business concerns that were

addressed in the Judiciary Committee. lt now affects the

large product liability cases that we are really concerned

with, so I would urge the Members to on mi Motion to adoptthe Amendmentm..to vote in favor of

Speaker Giglio: ''All in favor of the Amendment signify by saying

'aye', opposed 'nay'. The Gentleman asks for a Roll Call.

A11 those in favor vote 'aye', against 'no'. The voting is

open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish?

Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 85

voting 'yes', 27 voting fno' and l voting 'present', and

the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?''

Clerk Leone: ''No further Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Alright on the Special Call

Calendar House Bill 459. Representative Turner. Mr.

Clerk, read the Bi1l.''

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clerk Leone: NOn the Order of Third Reading. House Bill 459.

Representative Turner. Do you want this Bill brought

back?''

Turner: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker, I need to have this Bill brought back

to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment.''

Speaker Giglio: ''You heard the Gentleman's Motion. The Gentleman

has leave by the Attendance Roll Call? Hearing none, the

leave is granted. Goes to Second Reading. Representative

Turner.''

Turner: f'Yes, Sir. Oh, yeah, there is one, Amendment #l.

Amendment 41 provides an immediate effective date for this

particular Bill which is the home Bill that was passed out

of here last year. We need this eéfective date, the

Treasurer's Office requested this Amendment so that they

could procede with the legislation. We do have a copy of

the Amendment here.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Amendment is #1 on the Bi11.''

Turner: Hlt's on the Bill. Then let's move it to Third. We'd

like to vote on the legislation.''

Clerk Leone: ''The Amendment has already been adopted.''

Speaker Giglio: nHouse Bill 459. Third Reading of the Bill.


Black: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Just a question of

procedure. I...our records indicate that this Amendment

was adopted by voice vote last week. What is the Gentleman

doing now? Another Amendment?''

Turner: ''Representative, my record, which is not as complete as

yours said that the Amendment was in the file, but was not

adopted. I do concur in checking with our staff, the

Amendment has been adopted. I'd like to go ahead and move

the Bill so that we can proceed with the Act.''

Black: ''I...we have no problem with that. We're prepared to vote

with you we think it's a good piece oi legislation. We

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just didn't want you to adopt the same Amendment twice.''

Turner: ''We1l, home ownership is the kind of thing especially

made easy we need to do it 3 or 4 times, but we will go

with this one version. Let's move it. The Amendment is

the Bill. The Bill what merely does is create an

effective date for the Homeownership Made Easy Act that was

passed out.o.sponsored by Speaker Madigan that was passed

out of here last year.''


All in favor vote 'aye' opposed 'no' The voting is open.

This is final action. Representative Doederlein.''

Doederlein: ''Yes, just wanted to mention that this was a shell

Bill, and then it was changed...just for a date, andwould like to know if he would answer who it was changed

fOr.''

Speaker Giglio: 'fRepresentative Turner, do you want to respond?''

Turner: ''I've tried to help her. was changed for the people

of the State of Illinois. Actually, this is the Bill that

we a1l supported last year ando..it, the Treasurer's Office

is the one that requested because they cannot move forward

with ito''

Doederlein: ''Was a Constitutional officer that requested the

change?''

Turner: ''Yes, it was a Constitutional Officer that said he was

having problems with it, so wetre trying to help the

Constitutional Officers.'

Doederlein: ''Thank you.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who

wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there

are 115 voting 'yes' none votinq 'no' none' voting# #

'present' and House Bill 459, having received the required

Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House

Bill 6 appears. House Bill 276. That Bill was moved,

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Representative Matijevich. House Bill 284, RepresentativeSteczo. House Bill 313, Representative Currie. Second

Reading. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Hartke, 314. Out

of the record. Currie 318. Out. McAfee, 329. Out of the

record. 341, out oi the record. Richmond 345. Out of the

record. Wolf, 391. Out of the record. Peterson, 408.

Representative Peterson. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Mr.

Clerk..oexcuse me. George. Representative Peterson.f'

Peterson: ''Mr. Speaker, I believe this is on Special Call for

Friday.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Mccracken, 431. Out of the

record.' Representative Homer, 434. Representative Curran,

152. Out of the record. Representative Persico, 461. Out

of the record. Representative Brunsvold, 472. Out of the

record. 173. Out of the record. McAfee, 478. Out of the

record. Currie, 488. Out of the record. LeFlore, 495.

Representative LeFlore. Out of the record. Representative

Matijevich, 504. Out of the record. Brunsvold, 528. LouJones, oh, wait a minute, John Dunn, 550. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 550, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code

of Civil Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. There are

no Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Lou Jones, 565. Out of the

record. Johnson, 572. Read Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 572, a Bill for an Act relatin: to

membership in interscholastic associations. Second Reading

of the Bill. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Edley, Representative Edley.

Out of the record. Schakowsky, 580. Out of the record.

House Bill 582, Representative Preston. Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 582, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act

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concerning abused and neglected children. Second Readin:

of the Bill. No Committee of Floor Amendments.l

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. House Bill 583.*


placement of children. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: nAre there any Floor Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brien: PFloor Amendment #1, offered by Representative

PrestonmH

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Preston on Amendment House

Bill 583.''

Preston: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment 41 to this Bill

talks about the Department of Children and Family Services

seeing to it that siblings who are placed in foster care

have an opportuiity to visit and or to keep in a telephonic

communication with one another on a regular basis. I know

of no opposition to the Amendment was worked out with a

number of interested parties and I urge your 'aye' vote.''


a11 those in favor of the Amendment signify by saying 'aye'

opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes'

have it the Amendment's adopted. Are there further

Amendments?H



Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 584, a 3ill for an Act concerning

protection of children. Second Reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. 586. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: PHouse Bill 586, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Abused and Neglected Child Reporting Act. Second Reading

of the 3i1l. Amendment 41 was adopted in committee.''

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Speaker Giglio: ''Any Floor Amendments?f'

Clerk O'Brien: ''No Floor Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Readinq. Go back to 565, Mr. Clerk, read

the Bi11.''


practice . of electrology. Second Reading of the Bill. No

Committee Amendments.n

Speaker Giglio: ''Are there any flopr Amendments?''

clerk O'Brien: ''Floor Amendment #l, offered by Representative

Myron Olson.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Myron Olson on Amendment #1 to House Bill 565.

Representative Jones.'

Jones: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That's and Agreed Amendment.''




'ayes' have it. Amendment is adopted. Are there further

Amendments?''

Clerk OfBrien: ''No further Amendments.''


Curran. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 589, a Bill for an Act to amend the


Bill. No Committee or Floor Amendments. And the fiscal

note has been filed.,

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. 595 Representative Rotello.

lt's been acted on. John Dunn, 596. Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.''


Freedom of Information Act. Second Reading of the Bill.


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Speaker Giglio: ''Floor Amendments.f'

Clerk O'Brien: nFloor Amendment 41 offered by Representative

DUZ R @ 51

Dunn: ''Floor Amendment 41 is a technlcal Amendment which changes

language which currently the Bill refers to 'construction

documents' and changes that to 'architects plans'.,


all those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay'.

In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The

Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brien: HNo further Amendments.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Housè Bill 612, Representative

Capparelli. 612. Fiscal note not filed. Out of the

record. Representative McNamara, 622. Read the Bill, Mr.

Clerk.''

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 622, a Bill for an Act to amend the

Illinois Abortion Act. Second reading of the Bill. No


Speaker Giglio: ''Representative McNamara.''

McNamara: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker. There has been a fiscal report

requested...since this just modifies the Criminal Code,make the Motion that fiscal note is not applicable.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Any discussion on the Motion? The Gentleman,

the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie.,

currie: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. rise

opposition to the Gentleman's Motion. Anytime we deal in

the Crimbminal Code we deal with increased cost for the

Department of Corrections. We also deal in increased cost

for our local units of government. One more mandate, one

more expense. think the fiscal note is applicable, and I

would appreciate your support for a 'no' vote on this

Motion.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The question is, is the fiscal note...excuse me.

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Somebody seeking recognition? The question is, 'Is the

fiscal note inapplicable?' Al1 those in favor signify by

voting 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The voting is open.

Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have

all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this

question there are 70 voting 'aye', 39 voting fno', none

voting 'present'. And the Gentlemen's Motion carries. The

Bill now. Are there any other Amendments or Motions, Mr.

Clerk?'f

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments or Motions.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, we passed up 2, House

Bill 595. Read the Bill.''

Clerk O'Brien: HNo, we acted on it earlier today.''

Speaker Giglio: lYes, we did, Representative Rotello, we acted on

that earlier. Representative Capparelli, 612. Read the

Bill, Mr. Clerko''


miscarried fetuses. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment

#1 was adopted in committeeo''




Clerk O'Brien: ''No Floor Amendmentso''

Speaker Giglio: ''Request for a fiscal note. Are you making a

Motion like Representative McNamara? Gentleman moves that

the Amendment is inapplicable. And on that question the

Lady from Cook, Representative Currie.?

Currie: ''Well, know that people like to vote on these Motions

with respect for how they feel about the underlying Bill,

but I would make the point to the Members that this Bill

would require certain actions by the Director of the

Department of Public Health. I don't know how many Bills

you individually have in that would require anything, of

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any state agency, but let me tell you we always find that

there is some cost, $500,000, $1,200,00, million 2,

whatever it is. The point of the fiscal note in our

process is so that we know what it's costing when we vote

our consciences and vote our preferences. There's no

question this Bill will cost us something. And it is

irresponsible for Members in this chamber to support the

Gentleman's Motion.''

Speaker Giglio: 'fThe question, 'Is the Gentleman's Motion

inapplicable?' 'Is the fiscal note inapplicable?' A11

those in favor vote 'aye', opposed 'no'. The voting is


Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 66

'yes' and 40 voting 'no' and 4 voting 'present'. The# '

Motion carries. Third Reading. Representative Wojcik for

Wo j c i k :

Speaker

Steczo:

Speaker

what purpose do you rise?n

''Yes, Mr. Speaker, for leave of the House to place on

Consent Calendar..oHouse Bill 1856. There was a technical

problem with it and we've been able to discuss it, and now

that technical question has been removed so I would like to

have it back on Consent Calendar.''

Giglio: ''Any discussion? Gentleman from Cook,

Representative Steczo.''

HThank you, Mr. Speaker, I was the Member that objected

and had the Bill removed from the Consent Calendar, and

would like at this point to remove my objection.o

Giglio: ''Would you please, when you're finished there to

come down and sign the proper form to release your

objection and put it back on the Order of Consent Calendar.

Does the Lady ask leave? Does she have leave? Hearing

none, leave is granted by the Attendance Roll Call we put

this Bill back on the Order of the Consent Calendar. House

Bill 1856. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill on the Consent

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Calendar for the second time.'

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1856, a Bill for an Act to aménd the

Illinois Clinical Laboratory Act. Second Reading of the

Bill. No Committee Amendments.''


Clerk O'Brien: ''No Floor Amendments''

Speaker Giglio: HThird Reading. Consent Calendar lst Legislative

Day. Representative Wojcik.''

Wojcik: ''I would just like to thank you and thank theRepresentative for accepting the an situation the way it

was. Thank you.''

Speaker Giglio: HYou're welcome. Agreed Resolutions.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Resolution 413, offered by Representative

Leitch and House Resolution 4l4 ofiered by Representative

Deering.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Representative Matijevich.''

Matijevich: ''Speaker these are congratulatory. move theadoption of the Agreed Resolution.o

Speaker Giglio: ''The Gentleman moves for the adoption of

Resolutions. A11 those in favor signify by saying 'aye',

opposed 'nays'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolutions are

adopted. General Resolutions.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Resolution 412, offered by Representative

Curran.''

Speaker Giglio: Hcommittee on Assignments. Messages from the

Senate.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''Message from the Senate by Ms. Hawker Secretary.

'Mr. Speaker, I'm directed to inform the House of

Representatives since concurred with the House and passage

the following Bill to wit House Bill 277, together with the '

attached Senate Amendment 41 in the adoption in which I'm

instructed to ask concurrence of the House. Passed the

Senate as amended May 1, 1991. Linda Hawker, Secretary of

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the Senate.' Representative Mcpike now moves that the

House stand Adjourned until the hour of 12:00 o'clock

tomorrow. Representative Olson.''

Olson: HThank you for the recognition, Mr. Chairman. Republican

conference in 118 immediately after the Session adjourns.Republicans in 118.''

Speaker Giglio: ,'12:00 o'cloc'k tomorrow on the General Session

lst Special Session. All those in favor signify by saying

'aye', opposed 'nay'. ln the opinion of the Chair, the

'ayes' have The House stands Adjourned until 12:00o'clock tomorrow. First Special Session. Attendance Roll

Call for the Regular Session will be at the Attendance Roll

Call for the First Special Session. Representative Olson,

Representative Myron Olson, can you inform the Chair how

lonq there are committee meetings at 4:00? Appropriations

are supposed to meet at 4:00 o'clock.''

Olson: ''Mr. Chairman, we are very aware of that this was a

hastily called conference, we'll be as prompt as we can and

we will cut the Appropriation people loose as soon as

possible. Thank you.''

Speaker Giglio: ''Ha1f hour, 30 minutes?''

Olson: ''Yes.''

Speaker Giglio: ''The Republicans will go to caucus for a half

hour and immediately and the committees wil'l be delayed a

half hour and we would ask that a1l members of the

Appropriation Committee report to the appropriate room for

the appropriation committee starting .at 4:30.

Representative Matijevich now moves that the First Special

Session stand Adjourned 'til 12:05 tomorrow. A1l those infavor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay.' the

opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have and the First

Special Session is now adjourned until 12:05 tomorrow.''

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