Dublin Diocesan Archives: Murray Papers

Dublin Diocesan Archives: Murray PapersAuthor(s): Mary PurcellSource: Archivium Hibernicum, Vol. 36 (1981), pp. 51-140Published by: Catholic Historical Society of IrelandStable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/25487436 .Accessed: 16/06/2014 13:53

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DUBLIN DIOCESAN ARCHIVES: MURRAY PAPERS

In this issue we begin the publication of a guide to the papers of Dr Daniel

Murray (1768-1852), during his reign as archbishop of Dublin from 1823 to

1852. These papers constitute a source of prime importance for the history of the Catholic church in the first half of the nineteenth century. We are very

grateful to His Grace, Dr Dermot Ryan, archbishop of Dublin, for permission to publish this guide and to Dr Kevin Kennedy, the diocesan archivist, for

facilitating the work in every way and establishing the earlier short list on

which this present one is based. The preparation of the present guide is the work of Mary Purcell.

NOTE ON CLASSIFICATION OF FILES

MARY PURCELL

The Murray Papers are contained in a series of files, numbered consecutively,

beginning with file 30/7. Within these files the contents have been sorted into

folders titled according to origin or subject matter, e.g. Irish Bishops, Foreign

Bishops, Holy See, Education, Famine Relief, etc.

Documents in each folder are in chronological order and are easily located. A letter from Dr Doyle (J.K.L.) written to Murray on 17 February 1829 is in

the file for that year, 31/2 and in the folder 'Irish Bishops'; in the catalogue for file 31/2 the letter is no. 5. Some files contain non-Murray material. Since this is intended as a guide to the archives, those filres are included.

FILE 30/7: 1823

Pastoral

1 Pastoral address by Murray announcing the cure of a religious at

Ranelagh Convent through the intercession of Prince Alexander

Hohenlohe; also included are doctors' certificates regarding same and

the evidence of nine persons. 15 August 1823.

Irish Bishops

2 (Copy from Thurles Archives). Murray to Dr Laffan, archbishop -

elect of Cashel re the administration of the diocese while Laffan is

still vicar-capitular, the procedure to adopt when the papal Brief

arrives. He recommends that Laffan completely overlook and keep silent about the opposition of some Cashel priests to his appoint

ment. Murray has Dr Everard's crozier, which Laffan can have, but

he gave the mitre etc. to Maynooth College;he thinks that Everard's

ring was sent to Dr Wright. 4 April 1823.

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3 (Copy from Thurles Archives). Same to same, notifying him that he

(Murray) will arrive by mail coach for the consecration and would

like to be met at the stopping place (Littleton). Don Juan and Mr

Coyne will be with Murray. Dr Curtis has to return north so he sends

apologies at being unavoidably absent; Drs Kelly and Magauran have

also been obliged to return home and cannot come to Cashel. 1 July 1823.

4 Note in Murray's hand concerning compensation decided upon by M. MacPhartlan and N. Kearns to be paid by Revd Mr Campbell to

Rev. Mr Toole for house, land and holdings lately occupied by him.

23 September 1823 and 2 October 1823.

5 Latin draft (Murray's handwriting) for a letter of recommendation

to be given to a candidate for the priesthood of Dublin diocese on

setting out for his studies at Saint Sulpice. 1823.

6 Dr Coppinger, Cloyne, to Murray; he gives particulars of a Cloyne

priest who became mentally unbalanced and is now renouncing the

priesthood and becoming a Protestant. Coppinger does not know

how to act in the matter. 22 January 1823.

7 Same to same. He encloses a letter for forwarding to Dr England. Lord Colville seems to have strangely mistaken Murray's address. He

gives a message for Dr Crotty about a delayed letter. 1 February 1823.

8 Dr Doyle, Kildare and Leighlin to Murray. Doyle's suggestions on

how bishops should be elected in future. 31 March 1823.

9 Dr Curtis, Armagh, to Murray. He is sorry to hear that Dr Troy has fever but hopes that he is recovering; he gives his suggestions as to

the method of electing future bishops; he concludes by giving his

opinion on Dr M.'s (Milner's?) Oath formula; if certain clauses in this are included he fears it would cause a schism, although these clauses

may be orthodox in themselves and cautiously worded. 20 April 1823.

10 Same to same. He announces the death of a curate from typhus fever; he expected much of this priest but his health was not equal to his zeal; the two remaining curates are zealous and proper, 'but like all coming from Maynooth, they cannot bear much fatigue.' 19

August 1823.

11 (On same paper as preceding). Draft of a letter from Murray to the

Marquis of Wellesley, the lord lieutenant, concerning a school he wishes to build for poor children near Townsend Street. He asks that this school be included in the grants being advanced for the building of schools in Ireland. 25 August 1823.

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12 Dr Curtis to Murray. He read Murray's pastoral address in the papers; he thinks it unwise to publish the like (cf. 1 above) considering what

those who attack the church say about miracles and Catholic belief

in them. 20 August 1823.

13 Dr Laffan to Murray. He encloses a copy of a letter which came to

him from the pope and was addressed to the four metropolitans; he

does not know whether they also received copies. He asks should he

send a copy to his suffragans; being but recently appointed he is not

yet au fait with the correct procedure in these matters ;he apologizes foi

troubling Murray. 31 December 1823.

14 (Enclosed in the preceding). A copy of the pope's letter to the four

archbishops in Ireland, thanking them for their October letter of

congratulations on his elevation to the papacy, on their own behalf

andthatof their suffragans; he appreciates their sentiments of devo

tion to the Holy See. 22 November 1823.

15 Laffan to Curtis enclosing a copy of 14 above. He is glad to hear

from Murray that Curtis has recovered from his recent illness. 31

December 1823.

Foreign Bishops

16 (Two copies). The archbishop of Paris to 'all whom it may concern'.

He tells what he has ordered to be done with money left by the late

superior of the Irish College, the Abbe* Walsh, in accordance with the

wishes of the deceased: (1) A bourse has been founded in Saint

Sulpice seminary for a student to be chosen by the archbishop of

Dublin; (2) any further profit from the money invested cannot be

used for anything without the consent of the archbishop of Dublin. 4 December 1823.

17 Same to same. Concerning representations made to him by the Abbe

Kearney, superior of the Irish College, Paris and administrator

general of British establishments and colleges in France, the arch

bishop has decided that the terms of the Lyndham and Mahon

foundation made in 1381 cannot now be fulfilled, so he has made

the following arrangements: (1) 300 Masses a year are to be celebra

ted for the intentions of the founders; (2) a priest, preferably of

Dublin diocese, appointed by him, is to be charged with the

acquittal of this obligation. 10 December 1823.

Dr Milner

18 Dr Milner (Vicar Apostolic of midland region, England) to Murray. He is grateful for Murray's letter and for the confidence he places in

him, despite the allegations made against him (Milner) in letters to

Cardinal Quarantotti and Curtis by Dr Poynter (V.A. London

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district). He regrets that Curtis thinks he (Milner) should not have

chastized Poynter 'for his unmerciful abuse of me'. He only told the

whole truth. He refers to the late Fr Gandolphi; he means to send

Murray's letter to the Gandolphi family to console them. He thinks

Rome is coming round to his (Milner's) point of view; this must be

due either to the 'exit of my sworn foe, Castlereagh', or his opposi tion to the proposed Oath. He comments on the Oath and the Veto

etc. etc. 28 January 1823.

19 (On same paper). Milner to Dr Doyle, Kildare and Leighlin. As he

has not Doyle's address he asks Murray to copy and forward this. He

mentions one of his own controversial pamphlets and asks Doyle to

take up the controversy which now becomes 'quite Irish'; also he is

at an age when he must prepare for death, leaving controversial for

ascetical works. 28 January 1823.

20 Printed copy of a Lenten pastoral sent by Milner to Troy. 2 February 1822.

21 (On same paper as preceding). Troy to Doyle, Kildare and Leighlin,

sending him Milner's Pastoral and requesting him to return it; with a

note from Doyle when returning the Pastoral to Troy; he says that

Dr Marum (Ossory) highly approves of the regulations concerning 'station dinners'. 3 April 1822.

22 A printed statement sent by Milner to Murray; the author is M.A.G. Barb. O'Connor; content deals with Catholic miracles, especially Prince Hohenlohe's. 15 December 1823.

23 Cardinal Bertazzoli to Murray and the Irish bishops. He is in receipt of the honour of being made cardinal protector of Ireland's College in Rome and is grateful. Re the oath formula he refers them to the

letter of Propaganda 6 January 1776, addressed to the then bishop of Ossory. No date, 1825?

Roman Agent

24 Brother Colgan, Rome, to Fr Meyler. The bill for the gold fringe for the cope is far more than expected; is he to pay it or cancel order?

He gives details of the dimensions of the fringe, the material in

stoles, the handwork, etc. and asks Meyler to send him instructions at once. He gives news re Miss Finn who is better and has arrived

safely in Leghorn; the books are already packed. 17 May 1823.

25 Same to same. A long letter re the cope, stoles and mitre. The costs were not really exorbitant as he thought; he went around Roman

shops enquiring and found that the price asked was fair. He describes how they are being sent. Signor Argenti is going around with an

injured air because the matter was not mentioned to him first, and is

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now raising difficulties about sending the articles. He is sorry to hear

of Troy's death; he himself does not feel well. He is enclosing the

ring with the mitre. 14 June 1823.

26 G.G. Argenti to Murray. He is sorry to learn of Troy's death but is

consoled that Dublin has been provided for in the person of Murray. He refers to the pallium and bull, also to investments in Troy's name

in Luoghi di Monti; he is seeing to this; if continuing as agent he will

attend carefully to all the business of Dublin diocese. All the Argenti

family send their congratulations to Murray. (At end of letter Felice

Argenti, G.G.'s brother, adds a few lines of condolence on Troy's death and congratulation to Murray on becoming archbishop of

Dublin) 14 June 1823.

27 Same to same. On hearing of Troy's death he applied for the usual

faculties for Murray, those which his holiness usually grants to all

the archbishops of Ireland; the pope granted these, also the parish

requested by Murray and he encloses document about this. The sec

retary of Propaganda is anxious that he, G.G. Argenti, should take

up other work in the Dateria and he wonders if Murray would

employ his brother Felice as his agent. 3 July 1823.

28 Same to same. He expects that the letters, faculties etc, have arrived.

He repeats the suggestion concerning his brother Felice which he

made in his last letter. Murray knows Felice well; G.G. and Felice

Argenti live together, so in difficulties Felice would have G.G. to

consult. Fr Coughlan (Colgan? cf. 24 and 25 above) gave him mitre,

cope etc. which Murray got Fr Meyler to order. He explains difficul

ties about forwarding them; he will not send them until he has

Murray's instructions. The Galway affair will not be settled until

Propaganda meets. The pope had a fall and there are various rumours

as to how he really is. G.G. Argenti will keep Murray posted. 12 July 1823.

29 Same to same. He describes the pope's death and the usual customs

observed by the cardinals on the following days. Other cardinals are arriving in Rome for the conclave to elect a new pope. September 1823.

30 Same to same. He relates the preliminary proceedings and the

beginning of the conclave. Concerning the cope, etc. of which Fr

Coghlan (Colgan?) wrote to him, proposing to send them by a

Fr Swords; he thinks it better to write to Swords first to know if he

will be responsible, since, as he explained, there is an English law

against importing such articles. If Murray is satisfied he will send them through Swords. 18 September 1823.

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31 Same to same. Great applause greeted the election of Pope Leo XII. His health is not good so, although the new pontiff is only 63, there are fears that his pontificate may not be long. He (G.G. Argenti) is

looking after the things being sent from Livorno. He encloses Troy's last letter to him, also detailed accounts of their financial transac

tions; 25.91% scudi are owing to Argenti; he explains what he has done re the Luoghi di Monti investments. 29 September 1823.

32 Same to same. The pope's ill-health was aggravated by the new cares

of his office; prayers were ordered for him in the churches; at one

stage all the cardinals went to the papal palace; some said that he

had congestion of the lungs, others said he had dropsy. He has since

improved. The parcel is being dispatched from Livorno. At the end

of the page Argenti's brother, Felice, adds a note with good wishes.

25 December 1823.

Ordinary

33 Lord Donoughmore to Murray. He thanks him for his letter with the

enclosure; he believes from what it says that representations were

made in Rome by a high official in favour of his friend, Dr Collins, he is glad that all is going well. 7 January 1823.

34 Fr Wm O'Brien, Cloyne diocese, to Murray. Writing from Carnew, Co. Wicklow, he says that he is to receive the Protestant sacrament

and make his recantation next Sunday, but is now filled with horror

at the thought of what he did in withdrawing from his diocese and

offering himself as a convert to the Protestant archbishop of Dublin.

He asks for an interview with Murray, with a view to being affiliated to Dublin diocese or to be admitted to a Jesuit or Franciscan house

in Dublin. He adds another short note asking for an interview. (Cf. nos 6 and 7 above). 18 January 1823.

35 Lord Donoughmore to Murray. He wonders why Rome is delaying to fill the vacant archbishopric. The British foreign secretary Canning is rumoured as having told the Hanoverian minister to the Holy See that the British government would approve of Dr Collins' appoint

ment. He imagines that the delay may be caused by a malicious lie

spread attributing freemasonry to Collins, but he does not believe

that the cardinals would credit this. He heard that the Catholic

question is to come up at the first session of Parliament; he com

ments on this and on what Canning is likely to do. He himself will be

early in his seat at Parliament; he heard that there is 'a strong muster

of the Orange factions in County Waterford and other places.' 26

January 1823.

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36 Letter of freedom to marry signed by C. Callaghan, P.P., Bray. 7 February 1823.

37 Legal document regarding a bond signed by Allen Dowell, Dublin, to

pay Henry Dowell, Dublin, ?12,000; if he pays ?6,000 within an

agreed period, the above will be null and void. Written statements on

back of bond as to what he repaid and when, state that money is still

owing on 24 February 1832.. Date on bond is 22 February 1823.

38 Judith Everard to Murray. Her brother-in-law is trying to deprive her

of property in Fethard. She came to Dublin at great expense to see

Mr Barron, but he had left for London. She asks Murray to help her

defray expenses of journey and lodging and promises never to

trouble him again. She is sorry for displeasing him in the past. 11

March 1823.

39 H. Parnell to Murray. He presented the petition entrusted to him by

Murray and gave notice that he intended to bring in a bill on 7 June.

He has asked Scully to help him prepare the bill. The enquiry into

the Sheriffs conduct should prove very useful to religion and the

reform of the administration of justice; it will also expose the

enemies of Catholics in their true colours. 10 May 1823.

40 Fr Johnston, Pi\, Castlekevin, to Murray. He has been long com

plaining of his curate, Mr Murphy, who will not carry out his duties

but calumniates him and the parishioners; Murphy imposed on Troy; he was a Carmelite but left that Order; spends his time in Round

wood alehouses all Sunday, neither saying nor hearing Mass; he reads

Murray's letters aloud, as he used to read Troy's, 'to the dregs of the

people in the shebeen houses.' He cannot tolerate Murphy any

longer and asks that he be removed. 23 May 1823.

41 Henry Goulbourn, Irish Office, London, to Murray. He received

Murray's letter about the chaplaincy in Newgate. The court of King's Bench does not consider that there is any legal ground for interfer

ence, therefore Murray's views cannot in any measure be forwarded.

10 June 1823.

42 Lord Fingall to Murray. Writing from London, he recommends Mr

Turnerelli (Murray had T. design and sculpt the high altar in Pro

Cathedral) to execute a statue of Troy if such was being contempla ted. Grattan highly esteemed Turnerelli and so do the Grattan

family. He explains why Turnerelli did not sculpt the statue of

Grattan. There will not be a chance of presenting the address to the

king as there will be no levee- The king's health is better but he is

not allowed to undertake any exertion. Fingall is ill himself, this is a

trial when away from home. 26 June 1823.

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43 Fr Quinn to Fr Rogers, Dunleer. As Roger's uncle has refused the

parish of Louth that has been given to Fr Haly, Curtis instructs

Quinn to inform Rogers that he appoints him his successor as vicar of Dunleer district; if this is agreeable to Rogers all the necessary faculties will be granted him. Quinn congratulates Rogers on the

promotion and hopes to have the pleasure of introducing him soon to 'the gentlemen of your jurisdiction'. 7 July 1823.

44 Certificate sent by Mullins, Office of Royal Docks, to Murray stating that Thomas Neale, builder of the new school at Poolbeg St, has half the work of his contract completed. 26 July 1823.

45 Fr Trappis, Manchester, to the parish priest of Lazy Hill Chapel, Dublin, asking for the baptismal entry of William Toole who needs this to claim his mother's property; she died in America, without heirs and without having made a will. 4 August 1823.

46 Fr. H. Nolan, the pro-cathedral, to Murray. He gives particulars of a

baptismal register entry found not in Anne Street but in St Michan's; Fr Tristam has asked him to inform Murray of the mistake. (N.B. St Michan's formerly on street known as North Anne Street). 13

August 1823.

47 (On same paper). A draft of a letter in Murray's hand to Johnston,

secretary to the lord lieutenant, the Marquis of Wellesley. Referring to Johnston's letter (49 below) stating that His Excellency was

considering Murray's request of 25 August (cf. 11 above). Murray asks if he can hope for a favourable answer. 6 October 1823.

48 Sr M.F.G. Delahoye, Shipton Mallet, to Fr Glynn, Liffey Street

(chapel closed on consecration pro-cathedral in 1825). She thanks

him for sending on the accounts of the miracles and is amazed at the

prejudices of Irish magistrates regarding same; the English papers

published that (prejudiced) version of the affair. Her superior wrote

to Prince Hohenlohe for prayers; he promised them on certain dates

June to September for the intentions of some people 'in the world'.

Not a word about praying for the U.K. as the papers stated. Sr Weld

is now out of danger. 21 August 1823.

49 Johnston, secretary to the lord lieutenant, to Murray (cf. 11 and 46

above). His excellency received Murray's of 23 August and is taking the request into consideration. 30 August 1823.

50 C. O'Toole, Hillsborough Hall, to Murray. He has just received

Murray's letter of 25 August (cf. 4 above). Having heard that Murray wished him to give up Saggard he sent his case to Mr Byrne, the land

lord, who undertook to settle matters; but he agrees to accept the

judgment of the two clergymen appointed by Murray to decide the case. 31 August 1823.

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51 Fr Forster (evidently Prince Hohenlohe's secretary) to Murray; he

sends a large packet of letters by a religious travelling to Havre du

Grace and asks that letters to and from Ireland and the prince be

addressed c/o same. So many letters come, all requiring replies, that

postage has become too expensive. He heard that the theology

professor in Carlow College has returned to Ireland in ill health. The

prince and M. Michel join him in sending regards to Murray; prayers for all people of Ireland, Scotland and England will be said on the

first day of each month at 9 a.m. 13 October 1823.

52 Sr Gertrude White, Warrenmount Carmel, to Murray on the financial

state of the convent following on the departure of nuns to the

Blackrock house, to whom their dowries, etc. were given. She

encloses financial statements; they cannot pay the workman and

had to let him go. If Sr Fitzgerald goes, and her health is very bad,

they in Warrenmount will be extremely badly off. 28 November

1823.

53 John Litton, Leeson Street, to Murray. With reference to Murray's letter to Mr Goulbourne dated 31 October 1823,and asking financial

aid for the building of a Free School, the commissioners of Schools

state that the allocation of that fund has been postponed to the first

Tuesday in January, following which date Murray will be written to.

4 December 1823.

54 Report of the Female Day School in St Andrew's parish for 1823.

1823.

55 Collection of affidavits, in different hands, with signatures, attesting to the miraculous cure at Ranelagh convent (cf. 1,12 and 22 above).

Also a page of a Belfast weekly, The Irishman, with letters and

editorial comment denying the possibility of miracles and deriding the alleged miracle in Dublin. Date of newspaper 29 August 1823.

Dates of affidavits 6 .to 15 August 1823.

56 Ten printed copies (in Latin) of subjects for consideration at the summer conferences of the Dublin clergy, May to October 1823.

57 Notice from Murray to his clergy with a printed list of nine reserved cases in Dublin diocese. 1 June 1823.

Holy See

58 Propaganda to Murray with fifteen letters enclosed covering faculties

granted by the Holy See. Regret is expressed at the news of Troy's death; besides the enclosed faculties Murray is also empowered to

ordain 30 clerics in titulo missionis for Dublin diocese; he may have

St Andrew's as well as retaining that of the Immaculate Conception

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as his mensal parishes; further faculties will be applied for and

forwarded to him later; Propaganda will appoint a priest to ask for the pallium on Murray's behalf, since Fr Meyler, who was to do this,

has left Rome, and G.G. Argenti, who was to deputize for Meyler, is not a priest and cannot exercise that office. 23 June 1823.

59 Propaganda to Murray. Enclosing a printed list of the faculties

granted (rescript No. 6). The Prefect congratulates Murray on

becoming archbishop of Dublin and assures him of his happiness in

assisting him in any way he can. July 1823.

60 Propaganda to Murray concerning the request of Dr Doyle, Kildare and Leighlin, for the perpetual reservation to him of Tullow parish,

mensal parish of his two predecessors, and asking the same for Carlow parish, now vacant and where he intended establishing his

episcopal see. This request is granted; also his further request about

making over his revenues (in commendam) from the one-time abbey of St Fintan to the Presentation nuns for their Maryboro' founda tion. The prefect and secretary of Propaganda ask Murray's advice about the parochial and abbey revenues. 6 December 1823.

61 Transcript of bull sent from Rome with the pallium to Murray (cf. 62 below) on Murray's appointment as archbishop of Dublin. 13 December 1823.

62 Cardinal Somaglia, prefect of Propaganda, to Murray. He is very pleased to forward the pallium and bull of appointment to Murray. 20 December 1823.

FILE 30/8: 1824

Pastoral

1 Murray's Lenten pastoral for 1824. The Lenten fasts were relaxed in

recent years because of widespread poverty; for the same reason the

relaxations are continued this year. He suggests what to substitute in

their stead. 24 February 1824.

2 (Printed). Subjects to be considered at the Dublin conferences for

the clergy in 1824. May - October 1824.

Irish Bishops (Cashel, in separate folder, comes first)

3 Receipt sent to Murray from Dr Laffan, Cashel; explanation of same.

30 June 1824.

4 Laffan to Murray. No one subscribed to his appeal for Dr Blake

(Dublin priest going to Rome to re-establish the Irish College there). Dr Murphy of Cork may have done better; Dr Laffan saw him in

Tralee and he seemed to be in better health. He sends good wishes

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for success to Blake. Tells of funds for new Presentation convents

being built in Thurles and Cashel. He asks Murray (Everard's execu

tor) to send ?100 or building may stop. He is going on visitation and

asks Murray to advise him how to fill the huge questionnaire sent

him by the school commissioners. 6 August 1824.

5 Same to same. He thanks Murray for sending the money as requested. The nuncio in Paris gave the Dean (of Cashel?) two boxes with the

pallium and bulls for the archbishops of Dublin and Cashel. Murray's

nephew will bring them from Paris. 10 August 1824.

6 Same to same. He thanks Murray for advising him about filling the

questionnaire (cf. 4 above). Fr O'Connor is back and in better

health. He mentions a difficulty about the Christian Brothers' build

ing which they do not wish to sell though he offered them a fair

price. He is anxious to rid Murray of the importunities of Mrs E.

Fethard (cf. file 30/7, No. 38). He asks if he can send students ready for ordination to make their retreat at Maynooth, Carlow or Dublin. He received the pallium and understands that Murray got his; he asks about the ceremony for receiving the pallium, expresses regret at

Fitzpatrick's death and mentions a letter he wrote to a Mr Armstrong of Townsend Street in reply to one from him. 27 August 1824.

7 Same to same. He explains about an investment made for the

Christian Brothers' poor schools. The questionnaire about charitable

bequests which he received poses difficulties about this, as one of the trustees, Dr Everard, is dead. He has written Mr Rice about this

but, so far, has not had a reply. He asks Murray's advice. 14 August 1824.

8 Copy of a letter from Dr Doyle, Kildare and Leighlin, to Murray,

recommending a professor from Carlow seminary who is now going to Dublin, to Doyle's regret. 15 January 1824.

9 Same to same. He again recommends the professor, Mr O'Grady, who is to teach in Arran Quay seminary. Doyle is losing and Murray

gaining a treasure. O'Grady is doing a degree in Trinity. 15 January 1824.

10 Dr Keating (Ferns) to Murray. He replies to Murray's query as to the

expediency of publishing the Tridentine decrees on clandestine

marriages. He is against doing so and gives his reasons. 1 March 1824.

11 Dr Marum (Ossory) to Murray. He replies to Murray's letter asking if he thinks it expedient to publish the Tridentine decree on clandes tine marriages. He thinks it should be published and soon, if only to

stop the couple-beggars etc.; but he thinks the second part of the

decree ? denunciation of Banns ? impracticable; he adds further

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comment on the same subject and asks if the bishops have sent any

petition to the king, lords and commons. He also enquires how the

bishops should act re Mr O'Connell's project of the Catholic Rent.

3 March 1824.

12 Dr Plunkett (Meath) to Murray (on same subject as the two preced

ing). He has asked his priests for their opinion which he expects to

have by the middle of June and will forward same to Dr Murray. He

was disappointed that Murray had not called, and a friend who

expected Murray to dine and waited until 7.30 was also disappointed. 7 May 1824.

13 Dr Curtis to Fr McCann (Dundalk). He reports on a papal rescript he

has just received concerning regulations and dispensations; he is

dissatisfied as the rescript takes no account of the peculiar situation

in his diocese and he has not been granted sufficient faculties. He

tells what he has done about this. 19 May 1824.

14 Fr James Duffy to the archbishop of Tuam, Dr O'Kelly. On receipt of His Grace's letter Fr Kelly sent the query to all parish priests,

except one 'refractory' one. He complains of old Fr NagLe in

Kilchreest; the parishioners upbraid Fr Duffy daily for leaving them in such a deplorable state, with no priest, no Mass for the past four

years. He himself has to baptize their children and answer their calls as far as he can. Kilchreest causes mockery and laughter among the

enemies of religion. May 1824.

15 Dr Plunkett to Murray. Because of ill health he will not be able to

attend the Requiem Mass for Dr Troy's first anniversary. The doctor will not allow him out of bed; he will pray and if able to get up will offer Mass for Dr Troy next Tuesday. 20 June 1824.

16 Curtis to Murray, Two sermons by special preachers realized no more than ?50 for the Patrician orphan school because of the

present widespread poverty. He asks if Murray received his of 19

May (cf. 13 above). Dr McMullan of Down and Connor is ill and doctors say that he won't recover; he wants to elect a coadjutor with

right of succession. He got his clergy to choose and asks Curtis to

ratify their choice ? another McMullan, the bishop's nephew. The

McMullans have passed on this bishopric from uncle to nephew for over 50 years and there are so many priest relatives in the diocese

that this continues. A Dr Crolly was highly recommended to Curtis and Dr Denvir, Maynooth, speaks highly of him. Curtis asks Murray to support him in promoting Crolly, not McMullan, for the coad

jutorship. 28 July 1824. '

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17 Dr Marum (Ossory) to Dr Murray. He recommends a Fr_ Magrath of

his diocese for the vacancy in the Irish College, Paris caused by Dr

Kearney's death. Dr Marum heard that Murray would also recom

mend Fr Magrath; if they both recommend him he would surely be

appointed. If Murray is still of the same mind Dr Marum would be

grateful if he would send him a certificate, signed and sealed stating this. 10 August 1824.

18 Curtis to Murray. He is glad that Murray approved of his reply to

Mr McClintock's address. Many Protestants agree with Dr Curtis but

they give in to the fanatical party. He writes at length on this. He

sent the local paper to the Commissioners of Education Enquiry and

wonders should he write to the lord lieutenant and on what lines. He

is glad that Don Juanito gave something for the Irish College, Paris; further re same ; he will write to the nuncio but does not know his

present address. 18 August 1824.

19 Same to same. He was unable to write to the nuncio, Mge Macchi,

recommending Don Juanito until now; he will also sign the paper

recommending him for the administratorship of the Irish College, Paris. 'He is the best choice we have just now, but I reluctantly com

mend, him in lieu of better. Macchi is very keen and he will see at

one glance that Juanito is a dandy.' 23 August 1824.

20 Dr Marum to Murray. He is sorry to hear of the death of Fitzpatrick. He had letters from three Revd gentlemen soliciting his vote at the

coming election of secretary to the Board of Trustees; he replied that as he was not competent to judge he would vote for whoever

Dr Murray supported. 26 August 1824.

21 Dr Murphy (Cork) to Murray. A Mr Mahony called upon Murphy to

inform him that his daughter wishes to enter the Irish Sisters of

Charity with a view to founding a convent in Cork; he said that he had seen Murray about this, but Murray referred him to Murphy. He describes moneys that the Mahony relatives think of giving towards the building of such a convent; one member of family is objecting and Murphy would like to have a sound financial basis before going ahead with the project. He asks questions about the rules of the Sisters of Charity; if something is not done soon religion will be in a

bad state in Cork; he hopes he will have the second foundation of the Sisters of Charity. 24 October 1824.

22 Same to same. He heard that Murray had to go north so he expects that was why his letter to him was unanswered. He asks him to reply to it now, as the situation has changed and a good financial basis now offers to establish a convent; if necessary he himself will pay any deficit, if there is one. 8 November 1824.

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23 Same to same. If it is not too late he asks Murray to put his name to

the address; he is glad of the Abbot's probable success, particularly as he heard that the Holy See was not in his favour. He thanks him

forJbis kind assurances re the Sisters of Charity. He writes at length on this and asks for clarification of certain financial arrangements re

dowries etc.; it is well to have everything cleared up now so that

difficulties will not arise in the future. He will give every protection to the Sisters and their constitution; he requests a copy of the con

stitutions for his own use. 21 November 1824.

24 Same to same. His request for a copy of the constitutions of the

Sisters of Charity may be delaying Murray's reply to his last; he now

hopes to be in Dublin in January and to see Murray about this.

6 December 1824.

Foreign Bishops

25 Archbishop of Nisibi,the nuncio in Paris,to Murray. He writes about a lady who was converted from Protestantism to the Catholic faith

and who resided for the following nine years in a religious house

where her conduct, the superioress says, was exemplary. The nuncio

recommended her to Lord Clifford and she returned to London two

years ago. The nuncio has no knowledge of how she got on in

England but she is now going to Dublin where she intends to open a

pension. Murray can judge for himself the kind of person she is. The

nuncio recommends her to his goodness. 21 February 1824.

Roman Agent

26 G.G. Argenti to Murray. He writes about the funds in Dr Troy's name in Luoghi de Monti and the documents he needs from Murray to legalize matters. He forwarded the book by Fr Rice OSA and

gives price and further information re books. 16 February 1824.

27 Same to same. He gave the certificate sent by Murray to the Procura tor of the Luoghi de Monti; he thanks Murray for the 10 scudi sent,

owing him (G.G. Argenti) by the late Dr Troy. There is a difficulty about Luke Concannon's legacy to Troy;he goes into details re this.

Propaganda will have written to Murray about the ad limina visit and

other matters. 20 May 1824.

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28 Fr Wm Stafford, 18 Upper Camden Street, to Murray. He called to

Revd Costigan re allegations made about him (Fr Stafford) living outside his parish boundaries and not performing his duties properly. He understands that some illiterate people were asked to sign a

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paper protesting against this. He explains the position; he cannot get a suitable house anywhere near the site of the proposed new church

and the house he got is beside the site and only two perches beyond the parish boundary. He blames the Francis Street priests for the

calumnies that have been circulating and accuses Fr Kenrick of

holding funds which should go to the new church (Rathmines) fund,

(cf. Donnelly's Dublin Parishes, Part VI, Section III, pp. 77-92). 16 February 1824.

29 Robert McHally (writing from Johnstown, Naas) to Murray (evident

ly his servant and groom). He sold Murray's horse well in Kildare;

prices were high there, so he did not buy the mare; he is going on to

Castledermot where there is a fair on 23rd and the best horses in

Ireland are usually there. He is sorry if he caused Murray uneasiness or displeased him. 23 February 1824.

30 Fr Coleman to Murray (portion torn). Dr Blake sent him Fr Ferry's

letter; it seems that Fr Ferry wants to leave the Order while unjustly

using its property. Fr Coleman objects and asks Murray that canon

law be observed in the matter. 23 February 1824.

31 Major McDowell(?) to Murray concerning the latter's application for a grant from the Schools' Fund at the disposal of H.E. the lord

lieutenant. He will receive Murray at 41 Leeson Street, concerning this at date mentioned. 24 February 1824.

32 (Printed). Fr Joseph Dunn of Preston thanks the subscribers, includ

ing many Protestants, to his school fund. He encloses lists of

subscribers. 1 March 1824.

33 Wf Gregory, Dublin Castle, to Murray. The lord lieutenant is giving a

grant of ?100 from the Schools' Fund for the building of Townsend

Street poor school. 2 March 1824.

34 P. Turnerelli (artist and sculptor) to Murray, thanking him for

commissioning him to design the high altar in the pro-cathedral. If it is to be ready for the opening in 1825 there is no time to be lost; he asks for measurements etc. and is glad that it is to be in marble. 2 March 1824.

35 Same to same. He thanks Murray for plans etc. and measurements; he has already made a small model but is going to War dour Castle,

Wiltshire, to see a splendid altar which the grandfather of the owner

of the castle (Lord Arundel) brought from abroad for several thousand pounds. He makes other comments regarding the proposed altar for Dublin. 19 March 1824.

36 Note from Wm Fitzpatrick, Anne Street re a reduction of interest. 31 March 1824.

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37 P. Turnerelli to Murray; he describes the Arundel altar which

originally came from Rome and has given him ideas for his design

(cf. 34 and 35 above). 5 April 1824.

38 James Devereux, London, to Murray. He relates how the Burial Bill

was passed through the Commons in the record time of four days; tomorrow it will go to the Lords and it is to be hoped that Lords

Danby and Holland will guard it from the obnoxious clause which

requires that R.C. clergy must obtain the parson's permission before

officiating at a burial. The remainder of the letter concerns the

activities of the Kildare Place Society and the diversion of funds by it to the Hibernian Society. He advises Murray to act firmly in this

matter. 6 April 1824.

39 Fr Coleman to Murray. Dr Spratt (O.Carm.) called on Murray but

missed him; he was requesting a dispensation for a novice to be

allowed recite office in choir with Fr Coleman and brethren. 14

April 1824.

40 Thomas Baker to Murray. He received an anonymous letter accusing him of breaking a promise; the charge is wholly unfounded. He does not like law and his solicitor is anxious to promote an amicable

settlement; he is also prepared to explain the conversation which

took place between himself and the gentleman who called upon him.

17 April 1824.

41 (On same paper). Draft of a reply by Murray to Mr Baker's (40 above). Murray knows nothing of an anonymous letter only what Mr

Baker said in his letter. He also dislikes law but as unjust proceedings have been initiated against him he must seek the protection of the law against him (there is no indication of who he means by 'him'). Similarly, as regards Mr Baker's caller, Murray has no right to speak in anyone's name; he suggests that Mr Baker meet 'them' and proffer

whatever explanation he thinks fit to offer; they will hardly refuse to listen. 17 April 1824.

42 Mr P. Hayes to Murray asking him to change the position of names

and to keep the two documents separate; this precludes the possibil ity of error and saves trouble. He gives more detailed instructions.

When this is done Mr Hayes will fill up the necessary papers for

Murray. 22 April 1824.

43 (On same paper). A draft of a letter by Murray to the lord lieu

tenant's secretary. He thanks him for his letter with news of the

intention to set up a commission to enquire into the state of educa

tion in Ireland; he is glad to hear this and he thanks the lord

lieutenant for his efforts in the matter, also for the grant for the

Poor Schools. April/May 1824.

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44 Fr T. Coen, Loughrea, to Dr Kelly, archbishop of Tuam. He has

made a return, as requested by Murray and Kelly, of the schools

established by R.C. clergy in Connaught province. He gives a long account, with interesting particulars on what happened in regard to

the school, established in Tuam 1818; he also describes schools in

Ballinasloe, Portumna etc. 5 May 1824.

45 H. Parnell (from London) to Murray. He stresses the importance of

having good witnesses appear before the commission (of Enquiry into the State of Ireland) now being set up. They should be com

petent to give information on the various subjects to be considered; the causes of disturbances in the southern counties is a main head of

investigation. He quotes Sir Robert Peel on same. 14 May 1824.

46 Lt-Colonel Shane, Phoenix Park, to Murray making an appointment; the lord lieutenant wishes to see Murray. 28 May 1824.

47 Fr P.M. Nicholas to Dr Kelly, Tuam, giving an account of the Poor

Schools in his area; rather illegible. 29 May 1824.

48 Messrs Roche, Gt Strand Street, to Murray enclosing statement and

documents with financial details of amount realized for British bills.

1 June 1824.

49 Feehan or Phelan, Waterford to Murray asking for some money from

Dr Evererad's estate (Murray was Evererad's executor). 17 June

1824.

50 Same to same. As requested, he tells his circumstances; he was

ruined in business and imprisoned for debt for which he had already

paid creditors 17/- in the ?. He asks for an advance of ?300 even as a

loan. 21 June 1824.

51 (Mrs) Winston, Belturbet, to Murray (her cousin). They have lost

money due to being unable to renew a lease of lands. A post in

police is coming up in her area which her husband wishes to get; she

wants Murray to see the lord lieutenant or to bring some influence

to bear in the making of the appointment. 14 July 1824.

52 M.A. Power, Presentation Convent, Thurles, to Murray thanking him

for the ?450 received. 21 July 1824.

53 Keating, publisher, London, to Murray, about books lost in transit

but which may be in the Steam Packet Company's office. 27 July 1824.

54 Sr M. Clare, Presentation Convent, Thurles, to Murray, asking permission to renounce executrix-ship re a family will as she will soon be making religious profession. 10 September 1824.

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55 Fr Malone, O.FJVl.Cap., Prussia Street to l'Abbe McNulty, chaplain to 4th Cavalry Regiment of Artillery at Metz. He sends the account

re the capital of Catherine's money; she is now in France so the

money has been forwarded to Mr Callaghan; figures etc. given. He

gives messages for Catherine from friends and sends news of

Capuchin interest. 7 November 1824.

56 E. Nolan, Gloucester Place, to Murray. Sir G. Neville called about

the rent his father wants; this is very high but it would be a pity to

let the opportunity slip of acquiring the property. Murray is asked to

call a committee meeting about this. 20 November 1824.

57 J.A. O'Reilly, Gardiner Place, to Murray about the mills and house

at Newtown; whether they are in Kildare and Leighlin diocese or

Dublin, he is not sure; he relates what he knows of the matter, both

from his recollections of the time he bought the mills and what old

people in the area told him. November 1824.

Education

58 Henry Goulbourn to Murray. He is sorry that the petition of certain

R.C. bishops in Ireland cannot be acceded to; he always considered

that the establishment of a separate and exclusive system of educa

tion for the R.C. poor in Ireland was not calculated to promote the

welfare of that class of the community and the general interests of

Ireland. 18 March 1824.

59 Same to same. He received Murray's and gathers that he misinterpre ted the bishops' petition. He accepts Murray's explanation of the

points listed and will give the matter his careful consideration. 27

March 1824.

60 Murray to Mr Goulbourn. He thought, from Goulbourn's statements

that the Irish bishops could look forward to the day when their poor could participate in the benefits of education; but the circumstances

which followed 'soon dissipated this pleasing illusion'. He laments the bishops' lack of success and the dashing of their hopes and

thinks the decision (of Government) can only cause trouble. While

waiting for better days to dawn, the Catholics will continue to do the best they can out of their own scanty resources and with the

help of liberal-minded Protestants and others who have always aided them. 22 April 1824.

61 Copy of the examination of Peter Blenkinsop, printer, by the

Commissioners of Education at their Inquiry. This covers fifteen

foolscap pages and deals mostly with the publication by the Kildare Place Society of certain selections from scripture approved by the

late Dr Troy for the use of Catholics. 6 December 1824.

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62 Copy of the examination by same of Joseph Devonshire Jackson on

the same subject (27 foolscap pages). 7 December 1824.

63 Copy of the conversation between His Majesty's Commissioners of

Education Inquiry and Murray. On the views of the Catholic clergy of Ireland on a general plan of education. 16 December 1824. To

this is added on 25 January 1825 a note signed by the four arch

bishops concerning their insistence that Catholic priests be allowed

to be present in schools at the time when Catholics are being instruc

ted in religion.

Schools

64 Lt-Col. Shane, Dublin Castle, to Murray. The lord lieutenant is

considering the matter mentioned in the bishops' petition. H.E.

hopes that the Commission of Enquiry to be set up will satisfy all

classes. He will appoint a time to receive the memorial if the bishops wish to present it. 22 April 1824.

65 Return sent to Murray by Thos Taylor from the Male Orphan school, Townsend Street. The numbers of pupils; the text used; the arrange

ments for religious education. 22 May 1824.

66 Secretary to the commission to Murray asking him to supply a list of

the parish priests in the diocese of Kilmacduagh and Kilfenora on

the enclosed form. 28 June 1824.

67 Fr Roche, Donard, to Murray with a return of schools in his parish. He comments on the proselyrisers. He mentions the clerical confer

ence in Ballymore, which is poorly attended, and other matters.

27 July 1824.

68 Account of Castledermot Charter School by the master, Laurence

Harvey, giving staff, qualifications of same, texts; sixty boys attend

and are educated, boarded and clothed. Attached to this are 16 slips with accounts of the various Catholic schools in Castledermot area, teachers and their qualifications; numbers of pupils with their

religion and sex, texts etc. 2 September 1824.

69 Fr Coen, Loughrea, to Murray. He replies to Murray's query on the

recent appointment of an inspector of Bible Schools; gives his

opinion on this and on the activities of the Kildare Place Society; their agents throughout the country are proselytising (he recounts

their methods) and constitute a real danger to the faith of Catholic

children. 16 September 1824.

70 Dr Doyle, Kildare and Leighlin, to Murray. He thinks that the

bishops should await the publication of the commissioners' report before again petitioning Parliament

? unless the report is very long

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delayed. If the education of poor Catholic children, or the means to

educate them, were entrusted to the bishops themselves he would be

anxious to have select passages of scripture used by the more advanc

ed children. He writes hurriedly as he has to attend an office. 4

November 1824.

71 (Printed). A notice from the commissioners of Education to Murray

stating that he must forward particulars of how the grant given for

Poolbeg Street poor school is being expended. 1824.

(Schools - Western Dioceses)

72 Return by Fr Wm Delaney, P.P., Kilcornan, of the schools in his

parish, lists of names of pupils etc. Sent to Fr Duffy, Craughwell. 18 May 1824.

73 Similar return sent to same from Ballamona parish. Unsigned. 18

May 1824.

74 Similar return sent to same by Fr Laurence McGrath, P.P., Kinvara. 19 May 1824.

75 Similar return sent to same by Fr Michael Acton, P.P., Ballindereen.

22 May 1824.

76 Similar return sent to same by Fr John Nagle, PP., Ardrahan. 22

May 1824.

77 Similar return sent by Wm Daly (P.P.?) Castletown, to same. 23 May 1824.

78 Similar list sent to same covering schools in Gort and Craughwell. 24

May 1824. (cf.75 above which includes a school in Craughwell area).

79 Similar return sent to same by Fr Michael O'Shaughnessy, P.P.,

Beagh.24May 1824.

To the Holy See

80 Murray to Cardinal Consalvi. He received the letter from Propaganda commanding him to state the reasons why the Tridentine decrees

regarding clandestine marriages had not up to the present been

promulgated in Dublin province; also asking if the omission was

causing scandal and can the decree be promulgated now. This matter

needs most serious consideration, as Propaganda realizes, and Murray

requests more time to think over it before giving his opinion. The late Rev H.M. Hamill was apostolic notary for many years; that post, now vacant, could be filled by either Fr Glynn, CC, pro-cathedral or Fr Fitzpatrick, CC, St Michan's; both are worthy; the chapter considers either suitable for the vacancy. At the end of 1824 Murray

will be due to go to Rome for the ad limina visit, as this will be the

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end of the decennial period; he hoped very much to go in person but

as his flock is just now exposed to grave dangers, he asks if he may defer the visit, also if he may defer the sending of his Relatio Status

of the diocese until 1825. He gives a long and involved explanation of the historical causes which led to the rites (from 1220) used in

the election of dean of the chapter, this seems to conflict with the

rule laid down by the apostolic chancellery. He asks Propaganda to

instruct him how he should act in this. When the Holy See decides if

the ancient rites associated with the election of the dean are still to

continue he will implement the decision. 20 March 1824.

81 Copy of a letter from Frs Coleman and Spratt, O.Carm., to Murray. As there is a great increase in vocations to their order they ask per mission to have a novitiate house. 24 March 1824.

82 (On same paper as 81). A copy of Murray's reply to the foregoing. He freely consents to their request, on condition that they observe

the regulations laid down by the Holy See regarding religious novi

tiates; this is to be found in the letter from Propaganda dated 19

July 1773.25 March 1824.

83 Copy of the resolutions passed by the Dublin clergy at a special

meeting held on 25 March 1824. They refute two letters signed W.

Dublin, which appeared in the newspapers and were read in the

House of Lords; concerning the Catholic clergy at funerals in

Protestant churchyards and the happenings at Mr Darcy's funeral,

(cf. Myles Ronan's^rt Apostle of Catholic Dublin (1944) pp. 114

116). 25 March 1824.

84 James Murray to Murray; James is his nephew and a student at Issy, near Paris. He intended to ask permission to stay on for further

study but the state of his health caused the doctors to advise him to

return home. He asks to be recalled to Ireland and hopes he can

continue his studies there; he is as yet only a deacon but hopes that

Murray will ordain him when he thinks fit. 7 July 1824.

85 Murray to the AbbS Brady, S. Sulpice (under address is written 'now at CollSge des Irlandais'). He introduces Patrick Crumpe, a Dublin

diocese student for the priesthood with the formula for letters of nomination which should be followed ? binding himself to return to

the diocese after ordination. He gives the requested testimonial of character. 10 August 1824.

86 Copy of a letter from Murray to the pope. His predecessor, Dr Troy, being anxious to obtain care for the sick of his flock wished to

found in Dublin a society like that founded by St Vincent de Paul, the Filles de la Charit6,in Paris, to perform similar work here. If the

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new sisterhood adopted the rule of the Filles de la Charite they would be subject to both the mother general of that Institute in

Paris and also the superior general of the Congregation of the mission

who always reside in Paris. The distance of Paris from Dublin and

the differences of language would cause much inconvenience so Dr

Troy asked leave to erect his own congregation, named the Sisters of

Charity, they being subject to the jurisdiction of the Ordinary pro tern and following the constitutions and rules of the English nuns

(I.B.V.M.) York whose rule was confirmed by Clement XI, 13 July 1703. This permission was granted. When the Sisters of Charity constitutions and rules were being drawn up certain modifications, caused by the circumstances and needs in Ireland were made, and

the Sisters asked approval for a fourth vow of perpetual devotion to

the service of the poor. The Holy See asked time to consider this last

and Murray had asked more than once to have the constitutions etc.

finalized. He now respectfully requests the Holy Father for a

decision and approval of the constitutions and rules. 19 October

1824.

87 Murray to Cardinal Somaglia (Copy). He received the cardinal's letter of 25 September asking for his opinion as to the worthiness of

Fr Fitzsimons, Down, and Fr MacAuley, Conor to be coadjutor to

the bishop of Down and Conor, so that Propaganda could compare them with Dr Wm Crolly, on whose merits he had already been

asked to comment. Originally, he had been asked by Dr Curtis to

join him in recommending Crolly, since he (Murray) knew him when

acting as president of Maynooth where Crolly was professor. He

recommends him highly; the other two are excellent priests but

Crolly is far more able and favoured greatly by both clergy and laity. He was very pleased to receive the bull and encyclicals announcing the Jubilee Year; also the pallium; he describes how it was conferred on him. He has formally acknowledged this to the Holy See. 25

October 1824.

Holy See

&% Prefect of Propaganda to Murray. They have been informed that in all the province of Dublin, in the diocese of Meath and in the ward

enate of Galway the Tridentine decrees on clandestine marriage have

neither been promulgated nor observed and that, because of this, often grave scandals arise. Also among dioceses in which the decree

has been promulgated without much difficulty its implementation does not follow. Propaganda greatly regrets this and ask that such a state of affairs be remedied. The cardinal asks Murray privately to inform him in confidence why these decrees are not being carried

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out up to this date and whether scandals are in fact being caused by this; also, could the decrees be now promulgated without causing disturbance. 17 January 1824.

89 Propaganda to Murray giving permission for Fr Michael Bernard

Doyle, O.F.M.Cap., P.P., to retain the parish of Baldoyle and Howth

(cf. Donnelly's Dublin Parishes, Vol. VI (North county) p. 60). 25

January 1824.

90 Same to same. The canonry and prebend of Wicklow, vacant since

Murray became coadjutor to Dr Troy, has been in the possession of

Fr Michael Ryan who was granted it by Troy at a time when it was

impossible to communicate with the Holy See. Fr Ryan may retain

these dignities. 25 January 1824.

91 Same to same. Grant of a faculty, for six years, to dispense from

simple vows of chastity. 25 January 1824.

92 Same to same. A covering letter, sent with the foregoing three

rescripts; in addition to these Murray is asked to accept them as part of an answer to his letter of 18 December 1823; other matters in

that letter will be dealt with at a later date. 31 January 1824.

93 Same to same. On account of the numbers seeking to gain a Plenary

Indulgence, the pope has decided that confession made the previous

evening is sufficient; this will avoid the inconvenience of having crowds for morning confession. 1 February 1824.

94 Same to same. A covering letter sent with the preceding rescript

answering a query sent by Murray on 18 December 1823.7 February 1824.

95 Same to same. Fr Henry Young returned to Dublin diocese having completed a brilliant course in the Urbano College, Rome; he was

also noted for exemplary piety and virtue. Propaganda intended to

send him to the United States but thought it wiser to wait until he

had some experience of missionary work. As he has now worked for some years in Dublin diocese Murray is asked to state his opinion as

to whether Propaganda should now follow its original intention of

sending him to America. Before writing him Propaganda wished to have Murray's views and ask him to send a confidential reply. 27

March 1824.

96 Printed certificate that Murray has made his ad limina visit through a

priest deputed to act for him, namely Fr John Baptist Palma. 3 May 1824.

97 Similar document to preceding, stating that Murray had satisfactorily made his ad limina visits through a procurator, a canon of the Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul. 3 May 1824.

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98 Propaganda to Murray. His letter asking to have the sending of his

Relatio Status for Dublin diocese deferred for another year was

received and the request was granted. Regarding the ad limina visits,

Propaganda appointed a priest procurator to make the visits in

Murray's name. This has been done as the accompanying certificates

(cf. 96 and 97 above) show, so Murray need not be uneasy about the

matter. Propaganda is pleased to appoint Fr Glynn (of the pro

cathedral) notary apostolic for Dublin diocese and letters patent are

being forwarded. 8 March 1824.

99 Prefect of Propaganda to Fr Henry Young, Dublin. Propaganda received his letter asking several spiritual favours for the Irish arch

bishops and bishops. The only answer the writer can give Fr Young is to state that Propaganda usually receives this kind of request from

those seeking the favour, i.e. in this case, the Irish prelates. When

they write to Propaganda that body considers if the request is

necessary and likely to be productive of good if granted; a decision is

then given. 29 May 1824.

100 Printed copy of a bull of Pope Leo XII announcing the universal

Jubilee Year of 1825.9 June 1824.

101 Cardinal Somaglia, prefect of Propaganda, to Murray asking for a

copy of a history of St Patrick's cathedral by MM. Major(?). The

sooner he receives it the more obliged the cardinal will be to Murray; cost and postage will be paid by Propaganda. 3 July 1824.

102 Propaganda to Murray. It considered his letters re the Irish Sisters of

Charity and approve highly of the establishment and maintenance of

this new congregation and hope it will do great good through the

Sisters' works and example to the faithful in Ireland. Concerning what Murray's predecessor, Dr Troy asked, i.e. that the rules and

constitutions be confirmed; this cannot be done at once as changes in time and place may need modifications of Rules etc. This

happened in the case of the Daughters of Charity, where St Vincent's successors had to make changes. The Holy See thinks that the

bishops should themselves make such changes as a congregation develops, when the Holy See can be asked to confirm their decisions. 15 July 1824.

103 Propaganda to Murray enclosing the bull (100 above) and an

encyclical letter (104 below) of Pope Leo XII. The letter marks the

pontiffs accession to the See of Peter. 7 August 1824.

104 Printed copy of an encyclical letter of Pope I^eo XII, mostly con

cerning regulations for education and studies in the papal states. 5 September 1824.

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105 Propaganda to Murray requesting further information concerning the

candidates mentioned for the coadjutorship of Down and Connor

(this seems to have crossed with a letter of Murray's giving the

desired information), (cf. 87 above). 25 September 1824.

106 Printed encyclical of Leo XII concerning the new arrangement of

Roman parishes. 4 November 1824.

107 Cardinal Somaglia to Murray. It was reported to the pope that the

discalced Carmelite nuns, Ranelagh, have relaxed discipline, are not

keeping rule of their order, are admitting and conversing with

seculars etc. Murray is asked to investigate personally and very

discreetly, report if there is any truth in the allegations and, if there

is, to suggest remedies for the abuses and the most prudent method

of restoring true observance of the rule and constitutions. The cardinal knows that Murray can be relied upon to do this without

arousing suspicion. 4 November 1824.

108 Rules for conduct at clerical conferences, Kildare and LeighHn diocese. 1824.

109 Drafts of letters to France, following deaths of Dr Troy and Dr

Everard, concerning investments in their names in France. 11 May 1824.

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1 Copy of an extract from the first report of the commissioners

enquiring re education. The examination of George Pringle, Esq. He

asserted that people in several counties of Ireland firmly believed

that the priests had power to change them into goats or hares; he

met others who were threatened with 'thunderings and lightnings if

they read the Black Book (the Bible)'. 13 January 1825.

2 Printed certificate acknowledging the transfer of shares, government stock, in Murray's name. 10 January 1825.

3 Indenture (copy). Wm Finn, Dublin to Dr Doyle, Kildare and

Leighlin, and others named, granting land at Graigue, Queen's

County for the purpose of erecting a free school. January 1825.

4 Deposition, sworn by Patrick Burke, J.P., Galway, before Henry Baldwin and witnessed by James Daly, Mayor, and James O'Hara,

junior recorder. He declared that at the election of a vicar there was

altercation and violence, blows being struck at the altar in the parish church of St Nicholas; if the present system continues similar scenes

may be expected; at such election each party spreads calumnies

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about the opposing party's candidate to render him (the candidate)

unpopular with the electors. 15 January 1825.

5 Earl of Harrowby to Murray asking when it would be convenient for

him to attend at a meeting of the select committee of the House of

Lords (convened to consider the State of Ireland). 13 February 1825.

6 Same to same. He informed the commission of Murray's offer to

attend their meeting when required. This will not be before Easter

and Murray will receive ample notice of the date beforehand. 25

February 1825.

7 Simon Fox, Milltown, to Murray. He complains of how Fr Stafford treats him because he wrote a memorial to Murray stating how

deprived the people in his area felt at having no resident priest. 25

February 1825.

8 Lord Palmerstown to Murray. The House of Commons wishes

Murray to attend the meeting of the committee on the State of

Ireland, at which Palmerstown will be in the chair. 3 March 1825.

9 Printed notice to Murray from the House of Lords requesting his

attendance to be sworn on 22 March before 4 pjn. and also at the

select committee meeting on 23 March at noon. 18 March 1825.

10 H. Parnell (in London) to Murray. He urges him to attend as witness

before the House of Commons Committee, as he hopes this may forward the Emancipation Bill. He was at the meeting of those pre

paring the bill, as was Mr O'Connell; there seemed to be a sincere

wish to consult and attend to the opinion of the Catholic bishops. Drs Doyle, Curtis, Kelly and Macqueen have also been asked to

attend. Success seems assured but Murray will be needed to advise re

the provisions of the bill referring to spiritual and ecclesiastical matters. 31 March 1825.

11 Eight written pages (unsigned) on the correct date for the celebration of Easter Sunday; the Jewish (a) civil, (b) sacred lunar years are

described and method of computing the Jewish Passover date. The

paper concludes with objections and answers to them. 3 April 1825.

12 Lord Harrowby to Murray. The select committee of the House of

Lords wants Murray to furnish particulars of the religious orders of men and women in Ireland; their numbers; the numbers of their

houses in each province and in each diocese of Dublin province; how

they are maintained, and the different orders with the increase or

decrease of their numbers over the past ten years. 25 April 1825.

13 Printed copy of the 12th annual report of the Day and Sunday schools for Catholic children in Manchester and Salford. 1825.

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14 Henry Barnewall, London, to Murray. He received the bill for

?3,251. 11. 7 and will remit same to Dr Blake (in Rome trying to

re-establish Irish College there) as Murray directed. Mrs Barnewall

joins him in sending good wishes to Murray; they are glad when he is

in London and comes to call on them. He encloses a page with

financial details of bills mentioned. 1 June 1825.

15 Robert Barnewall, London, to Murray. Further re the sending of the

money to Dr Blake; he explains certain formalities and difficulties

in changing bills for Rome. 18 June 1825.

16 Henry Barnewall to Murray. Further re the bills mentioned in the

two preceding letters; their letters crossed. He asks Murray if he

would approve of investments he thinks sound and likely to yield a

profit. 25 June 1825.

17 James Butler (evidently passing through Dublin) to Murray asking for ?5 to forward to his brother in Paris; when he himself was

leaving Paris his brother told him that Murray would pay this. 10

July 1825.

18 Thos Ellis, Abbotstown, to Murray. He sends this by a young Catholic woman teacher in the school founded by Mrs Ellis and

attended by both Catholic and Protestant children; the Gospels in

the Douay version are read daily to the more advanced pupils but

Fr Deane, P.P. has raised objections and his curate told the Catholic

teacher that if she continues there he must refuse her the sacraments

and says he would be excommunicated if he did not. The teacher will explain further. Mr Ellis wishes to know if Murray approves of

Deane's stand. He is anxious to employ a Catholic teacher but if

similar measures are to be adopted in future he must reluctantly

employ someone not a Catholic. 26 August 1825.

19 Same to same. He thanks Murray for his letter and is delighted that

he will visit the area next Tuesday. He hopes he will visit the school

when in session and see for himself how it is conducted; he invites

him to dine with himself and Mrs Ellis; she would like to talk with

him and explain how carefully the principle of non-interference with

pupils' beliefs is being adhered to in her school. 28 August 1825.

20 Verse signed by Sr F. Ball and eight other Loretto Sisters, asking

Murray to allow them recite Office in choir. 30 August 1825.

21 Thomas Ellis, Abbotstown, to Murray .He is amazed that Murray did

not come; he stayed in all Tuesday expecting him. He thinks that

certain persons haye been carrying untrue accounts of the school to

Murray. A long letter on same ending by stating that Catholic child ren get Saturdays free so that they can receive religious education,

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on that day Mrs Ellis takes Protestant children into her own house

for instruction in religion. 31 August 1825.

22 Same to same. He was very disappointed at the change in tone of

Murray's last letter, very different from the first. Murray states that

the Scriptures are read in Mrs Ellis's school in a manner not sanc

tioned by Murray or the parish priest. Mr Ellis asks to be informed

how Murray wants them read and he will then try to meet his

wishes. 2 September 1825.

23 Same to same. He continues on same lines as last letter; he 'will not

discuss doctrine with a theologian as practised as Murray'. He lists

the sacrifices he is prepared to make to meet Murray and in order not to deprive the Catholic children of the benefits of education. He

mentions the texts approved etc. The parish priest can appoint any teacher he wishes provided that Mr Ellis or one of his family can be

present at the instruction as often as they wish. 7 September 1825.

24 Same to same. He makes further efforts to come to an agreement; he

does not see any concessions being offered in return for those he

makes; he insists that the children of both persuasions read the

Scriptures together; more on the same lines. He again asks why

Murray objects. 12 September 1825.

25. Same to same. He sees that there is no hope, but he is gratified that

his own attempts 'to continue the blessings of education for the

many wretched children of your communion' were made; those who

defeated these attempts must bear the responsibility. 17 September 1825.

26 Same to same. He was surprised to get another letter from Murray, also at 'the asperity of stile which pervades it'; he remains uncon

vinced as ever by Murray's reasoning. He is so convinced of the

purity of his own motives that he is willing to let the public judge that by publishing all this correspondence if Murray consents. 20

September 1825.

27 Fr Thomas Purcell to Murray resigning the parish of Dunganstown and promising to give possession of the parochial house to his

successor on condition that he receives ?30 on or before the day he

vacates it, and that his successor pays him ?20 in two instalments. 3 October 1825.

28 Fr P. Doyle, P.P., Bray, to Murray. He will do all in his power to come to an honourable adjustment with Mr Daly. He would be sorry to think that he instigated the insubordinate resolution. He felt it his

duty to report to Murray; that was the motive underlying his request for a separation. (Further re the same which is not clear to anyone

only those involved in the dispute). 13 October 1825.

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29 On same paper. Some rough notes in Murray's hand (a) granting permission to priests to absolve from reserved cases during the

jubilee year; (b) subject for the clerical conference; the seal of confession.

30 Henry Barnewall, London, to Murray. He acknowledges money sent to him for transmission to Dr Blake, Rome. This will be sent at once.

Blake drew the money sent previously. Mrs Barnewall sends good wishes; her health has improved. 11 November 1825.

31 Fr McNamara, dean of Limerick. Writing from Shanagolden, he says that a clergyman of Dublin diocese who says he is going on the

American mission is collecting his passage money in the dean's area.

His conduct and other irregularities make McNamara suspicious. If

the people find out he is a fraud, it will cause grave scandal; if

Murray says all is in order, the dean will help this clergyman all he can. 12 November 1825.

Irish Bishops

32 Dr Doyle, Kildare and Leighlin, to Murray. He thanks him for many kindnesses and will be at Murray's disposal for the dates mentioned. He would prefer not to attend the dinner but will submit as it is

unavoidable. (Doyle was to preach Sunday 14 November at solemn consecration and opening of the pro-cathedral). He expected to have heard that Murray dined with the Viceregal party 'which would have

gratified our vanity'. He wrote Mr Blake about a grant for a school

and asks Murray to assist his application by supporting it, if he can.

2 November 1825.

33 Dr Kernan, Clogher, to Murray. He received the copy of the declara

tion of the archbishops and bishops of Ireland re promoting the

cause of Emancipation and thinks it may do good. He hopes to

attend the consecration of the new church in Dublin. 6 November

1825.

34 Dr Magauran, Ardagh, to Murray. He has read the prelates' declara

tion and fully concurs with it; he asks Murray to sign it for him as he

will hardly be able to travel to Dublin for the 14 November

function. The Abbe Langan has written from the Irish College, Paris; he is sore over a resolution passed by the Maynooth board which

referred to the Irish College. That was the first Magauran heard of

the matter, though he is a member of the board and Langan is of his

diocese. He asks Murray to let him know if Langan is fit for the post he holds and if the person proposed to succeed him is fit; Langan can justly claim a reference. A sore knee prevents him from travell

ing to Dublin for the consecration of the Metropolitan church. 6

November 1825. 79



35 Dr P. Kelly, Waterford and Lismore, to Murray. He read the declara

tion; while agreeing with its substance he thinks nothing will come

of its adoption and publication just now; it will probably meet the

same fate of many similar declarations in the past. Diocesan business

will prevent him from travelling to Dublin for 14th. 6 November

1825.

36 Dr O'Shaughnessy, Killaloe, to Murray. Poor health prevents him

from going to Dublin for 14th; he will see if Dr McMahon is going, but thinks he will probably be in like case. He asks Murray to sign the declaration for both of them. 8 November 1825.

37 Dr Plunkett, Elphin, to Murray. He thinks all the Irish bishops will

sign the declaration; if he is not in Dublin for 14th he hopes Murray will sign for him. He suggests three other points for inclusion in the

declaration. He refers to John Wesley and others who attack the

Council of Constance; he also refers to a French prelate: 'I venture

to say that the crowing of the Etoile, and a clever cock he is, will do more to bring about the conversion of our opponents than all the

Declarations, whether oral or written, of the Irish bishops'. 8

November 1825.

38 Dr Kelly, Tuam to Murray. He cordially agrees with the declaration

and asks Murray to sign for him; he suggests alternative wording for

article 3, which deals with miracles and could give rise to misinter

pretation in its present form. He would like to be in Dublin and at

the bishops' meeting on 14th but the inclement weather prevents him. 8 November 1825.

39 Dr Tuohy, limerick, to Murray. He heartily approves of the declara tion and thinks it should end calumnies, and stop the progress of the Bible Societies. He is now very infirm and unable to go to Dublin for

14th. He asks Murray to sign the declaration for him. 8 November 1825.

40 Dr Maguire (coadjutor, Kilmore) on his own behalf and that of Dr

O'Reilly, bishop of Kilmore, to Murray. O'Reilly's poor health and the bad weather will prevent them from attending at the consecra

tion of the new church on 14th. They approve of the prelates' declaration; O'Reilly would like a seat ticket for 'a religious woman'

who hopes to attend the ceremony in Marlborough Street. 10

November 1825.

41 Dr Coen, Clonfert, to Murray. He received the declaration and has no hesitation in signing it; he asks Murray to sign for him as he

regrets that he cannot come to Dublin for 14th. He thinks that articles 7 and 12 in the declaration need some re-wording. 10

November 1825.

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42 Dr Peter Waldron, Killala, to Murray. His delay in replying was

caused by waiting to hear from the archbishop of Tuam; he feels

incompetent to pronounce on the declaration but will agree with

whatever the other bishops decide. He thinks that it cannot injure the cause and suggests that the wording of the first paragraph might be changed; as it stands it could create a wrong impression. He says

this, not to criticize, but because the censorious will let nothing pass. He is sorry that he cannot come on 14th. 11 November 1825.

43 Dr Egan, Killarney, to Murray. He agrees with the declaration but has little hope that anything 'emanating from the Catholic bishops of Ireland will make any impression upon the minds of my Lord

Liverpool and his associates.' 11 November 1825.

44 Dr Logan, Meath, to Murray. He is not well and cannot attend on

the 14th. He approves of the declaration and asks Murray to sign for

him. In a postscript he adds that he has missed the post and is look

ing for someone to take the letter to Dublin by hand. 12 November

1825.

45 Dr Burke (coadjutor bishop, Elphin). He thinks that the declaration

will lead to beneficial results and asks Murray to sign for him. He

regrets that he cannot attend the opening of the new Metropolitan church. 12 November 1825.

France

46 Thomas Ryan, Paris (Irish College?) to Murray. He introduces Mr

Mangan of that college going to Ireland on family business. Fr

Langan will explain to Murray Ryan's views on an important subject; he will also tell him about the Butlers (cf. 17 above). 25 January 1825.

47 Copy of the will of the Abbe Walsh, one-time superior of the Irish

College, Paris. 18 October 1825.

England

48 Dr Dunne, Preston, to Murray. He introduces a Mr Marsh and his

party who are going to Ireland asking for teachers for Catholic schools. Rice (Edmund Ignatius) called on him. He had long wished to meet Rice. He lists persons Marsh is to call on and asks Murray to

write a few lines introducing them and encloses a copy of a similar

letter Dr Troy wrote in a similar situation some years previously. Attached to the third page of letter is a cutting from a newspaper

describing how the Emancipation bill was again out-voted in parliam ent. 30 May 1825.

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