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When our limited truth is expressed and heard in the space ofcomplete listening, it loses its power to control us. Thats howtransformation happens.
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EnteringtheStreamIwanttowelcomeyou.
Wecome
into
this
life
as
babies,
helpless,
needing
food,
protection
and
love.
And
for
manypeoplethatsmostoftheirlife.Buteventuallythereisadoorwaywemaycome
to,onewayoranother,andatthatpointwerealizethatsurvivalisnotallthatlifeis
about.
Forouranimalnatureitis;wecantreallydenythataspectofourselves.Itdoesnt
work,todenyourhumanityourphysicalbody,ouremotionalheart,ourmindeven
thoughtheymaygiveustrouble,orbedifficulttomanage.Trulyourbodyisour
vehicle.Ourbody,mindandheartarevehiclesforouraliveness,ourspirit,our
presence;ourtrueSelf.
Sowegettothatdoorway,andmaybewegothroughthedoorwayandrealizevastness,
ortheinfinite,theunknown;themystery.Therearemanynamestodescribethat
realization,thatdiscovery,thatopening;thatbeginningonthepath.
Ofcoursenoteveryonewhodiscoversthatopeninggoesthroughthedoorway,or
continuesonthatjourney.AsIwassayingrecently,itslikeFrodogoingtoMordor
itsaroughtrip!Butoncewevebeencalled,theresnochoicebuttoclimbthe
mountainnottoisnolongeranoption.Yourefortunate,actually,tofindyourselfat
thatpoint.
And
the
question
then
becomes,
how
do
you
find
the
support
to
finish
the
journey?
Fortunately,supportisavailable.Thatsthegoodnews.Andwealsolearnhowtotake
careofourselvesalongtheway.Thatsreallyabigpartofitlearningtotakecareof
ourselves.Andbecauseourmindwantstounderstandwhatshappeningtheminds
natureistowanttounderstand,tomakemeaning,toorganizeweoftendraw
conclusionsanddevelopbeliefsaboutwhatishappening,andthesebeliefsfrequently
becomeobstaclestothejourney.
Sowelearnhowtoreturntothemysteryofnotknowing.Thisisnotthesameas
ignorance;rather,itiswisdom,tosurrendertonotknowing.Andwhenyoufindthe
truththatyouare,whenyouactuallyknowitasbeingknowing,orknowingthroughbeing,thatsthesurrendering,theguide,theteacher,theteachingandthepath,allinone.
Andbylearningtotrust,youbegintofindthattrustthroughtheheart.Notthe
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emotionalheart,butthebigheart,theheartofvastness.Nottheheartofclingingorof
need,fromwhichwe,asbabiesoranimals,normallyfunction;butratherthroughthat
doorway,thebigheart,theheartoffulfillment,theheartthatisfulfilled.Andwetrust,
becausethenatureofthatheartistrust,isacceptance.Thisisnotapractice,not
somethingyouhavetolearn.Itsalreadyit.
Sowebegintotrustthat,andittakesus,itnurturesusalongtheway.Butthenwego
backthroughthedoorway,wegobackintostruggle,intoidentification,intoprojection.
Untilithurtstoomuch;untilwelearntoletgo,learntoallowthetransformationoffire
toalchemizeusfromleadintogold.Thatsall.Thatswhatisreallymeantbybeingtrue
tooneselfinthedeepestsense.Nottruetoonesselfasego,buttruetoonesowntruth.
Partofhowwelearntotakecareofourselvesonthejourneyisbyhavinganattitude
towardourstrugglethatallowsittobefullyexperienced.Imnottalkingaboutacting
out,butaboutbeingwiththearisingofattachmentorreactionwithoutdrawingconclusionsaboutwhatitmeansthatsthetrickypart.Becauseassoonasweidentify
ourstruggle,assoonaswegiveitanidentity,wecreatemoreseparation,andthereby
keepthestrugglerunningandrunningusunconsciously.
Sothesimplestinstructionistogetoutofyourthinkingandintoyourfeeling,however
painfulasthatmightbe.Andoftenitcanbeverypainful,oremotionallycathartic,or
intense.Andofcoursethebaby,ourhumannature,wantstobecomfortable,andwe
haveaculturethatplacescomfortonaveryhighpedestal.Itsaveryfineline,avery
subtledistinction.
Itrequiresexperiencetoreallytrusttheprocess,becauseitcontinuesonandon.People
awaken,andthengobackintoidentificationandaskthemselves,howcome?Orthey
haveanexperienceofawakening,andthink,Iwantthisallthetime.HowcanIhave
thisallthetime?HowcanIbecomefree?HowcanIbecomefreeofmystruggle?Or
theemotionalenergycanbesuchthatitcanbecomedespairing:Itsnevergoingto
happen,theymaytellthemselves.Imgoingtokeephavingtogothroughthissame
oldstuff,overandoveragain.Itsnevergoingtoend.Itcanbeverydiscouraging,to
thepointofdespair.
Soitrequiresinsomewaysatremendouswilltobefree,tostaywiththeprocess.And
evenasoneprogressesalongtheway,itoftengetsmoreintenseasonebecomesmore
conscious.Youfeelthingsmoredeeply,youbecomemoresensitive.Itsnotworse,
necessarily,butitismorevivid.
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Socomingtogetherlikeweredoingtonightisveryhelpful,becauseitcreatesan
environmentofsupport,whereweinasensebecomereacquaintedwiththetruthof
ourselves,andmaybeevenimbuedwithmoreofthatpresencethroughourbeing
together.Thatreallydoeshelp.Andwhenwegettogetherforlongerperiods,likeon
retreat,theopportunityisheightenedinsomeway,deepened.
Itsreallyapleasuretobewithyou,Ihavetosaythat;agreatpleasure.Mondaynightis
kindofafunnytimetomakeitoverheretothisspot,butIhavetosayImgladyoudid,
andImgladIdid.Itsnicetohaveaforumwherewecan,inacomfortable,intimate
environment,reallyexploretruthtogether.IdontreallythinkaboutwhatIwent
throughtobewhereIaminthismoment.Allthatkindofdropsaway.Theyearsonthe
zafu,themany,manyyearsonthezafu.Andallthepilgrimagingaroundtheworld,to
teachersandsoforth.Andtheextraordinarylongingtobefree.Theintensityofthat
longing.
Q.Couldyousaymoreaboutthisvastnessthatgivesyoucomfort?
Jon:DoyouknowwhatImtalkingabout?
Q.Yes,Iknowwhatyouretalkingabout,verymuch.ThatswhyIwantedtohearmore
abouthisvastnessthatgivesyousupport.Itseemstobeasyousay,onceyougetgoing
youcantgetintoit,andyouthinkyouwanttoquit.Butallofasuddenyoufindout,
kindoflikeanaddiction,youcantquit.Inotherwords,theresonlyonedirectiontogo,
andthats
forward.
But
its
not
fun
anymore.
Ive
heard
about
the
Dark
Night
of
the
Soul,butthatsoundslikeonenighttome.Inrealityitgoesonandon.
Jon:Yes.Yes,Iknow.Itsimportanttobeabletofeel,tobeabletobethefeeling.Not
justtofeel,buttobethefeeling,whateverthatis.Inthismoment,itcouldbesadness,or
fear,oranger.Thecoveringcouldbeemotional.Andtheemotionalrealmisveryoften
thedoorwaytotheblissofvastness.Weoftenthink,Idontwanttofeelthegrief,the
anger,thedisappointment,lossButwerehumanbeings,andtheseareallpartof
ourexperience.Theyreallyjustare,andtheresnothingwrongwiththem,andtheres
nothingwrongwithus.Theydontmeananythingaboutus,theyrejustwhatwego
through.
Sowhenyourehavingahardtime,whenitstheDarkNightoftheSoul,whatisthat
feeling,andcanyoubethat?Wewanttobethebliss.Wewanttobeontheothersideof
thedoor.Buttheonlywaytobeontheothersideofthedooristobecomethedoor,
becometheresistance,becomethesuffering,thepain;whateveritis.Thefrustration
thatwerenotfree.Wewantthegoodies!Butwearethegoodies,already.Itsalready
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done.Freedomisntsomethingthatweattain.Whenwedropthatwhichwerenot,we
discoverwealreadyareThat.Followme?
Q.Yes,Ido,verymuch.
Jon:Youdo,Icanfeelit.Soactuallytheresnothingtodo,excepttobewithwhatis,as
itis,inthemoment.
Q.Butyoufeellikeyourecausingyourownsuffering,thatssofrustrating
Jon:Yes,itseemslikethat.Butthetruthisthatitjustperpetuatesitself.Andthethought
aboutitactuallykeepsitgoing.Soitsalmostlikeyouhavetobacktracktothecenter.
Itseasytogetoutonthesurface,whichisjudgment,analysis,comparison;itsthehead
energy,mentalenergy.Itsreallyexternal,itswayoutthere.Itsnothere,itsnotreally
thetruth.Sothenwebacktrack,wegoOhoh,Imfeelinguncomfortable,oragitatedorwhatever.
Sothetrickthenistodropthatlabel,dropIamfeelingagitated.DroptheI,andall
thereisisagitation.Theenergyofit.Thefeelingofit.Thepainofit.Thatsall.Not,Oh,
Imreallydoingitnow.Thatinstruction,ifyougetit,willtakeyoualltheway.It
absolutelywilltakeyouthewholeway.Itsthehardestthingtoget.Becauseyouhave
tokeepgettingit,overandoverandoveragain.
Andas
you
move
more
into
vastness,
everything
is
yes.
You
know
what
Imean?
I
dontmeanbeamasochist;thiscaneasilybemisunderstood.Rather,itsthatyouknow
whoyouare,yourefamiliarwiththat,youresteepedinit.Learningtoletgoisreally
learningtofeelcompletelytheholdingon.Toallowyourselftobe100%holdingon,is
theonlywaytobe100%lettinggo.Itsaparadox.Otherwisewekeeptheholdingon
goingwithourthoughts,withourjudgments,withouranalysis,ourconclusions.
Andthenwemoveintonotknowing.Sure,youcanplaywithyourmind;itsfun.
ByronKatie,forexample,doesamentalthingtounhingethementalthing:Isitreally
true?AmIreallymyownworstenemy?Youcanchallengeanyofyourbeliefs.The
truthisthatourbeliefsarenottrue.Theyrebeliefs.Beliefsarenottrue,andtheyrenotfalse;theyrejustbeliefs.Theyreusefulornotuseful.Theyrefunctional,likesoftware.
Theyrefunctional,ortheyredysfunctional.
Youreverymuchhere.Imgladyourehere.Reallyletyourselffeeleventhedifficulty.
Thesadness.Aswebecomelessarmored,wemaythinkIhavetobestrong,Icantbe
weak.Orwemayfeelvulnerable,feelemotion;andthenthereisjudgment.Notfor
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everyone,butforalotofpeople.
Q.Youkeepaskingyourself,doIhavewhatittakes?
Jon:Yes,andyoucanalsoask,isthatreallythetruth?Remember,youarealreadyIt.
Youdontneedanything.Itsnotlikeyouhavetohavesomethingtogetthrough.I
understandwhatyoumean,WillIbeabletohanginthere?Maybe.Itsavalid
questionnobodyknowstheanswertothat.Andtheremayberealpainthere.And
theremaybefearorsadnessorgriefaboutthat:WillIbefree?ButInevergetsfree.
I,theego,istheantithesisoffree.Freedomisalreadydone.Itsalreadywhatweare.
Q.Butnotwantingtobethepain,notwanting
Jon:Bethenotwanting.Bethenotwanting.Thatswherewemissititscompletely
unconscious.Werereallyfocusedonthebullseye,thegoal.Andwethinkthenotwantingismotivatingus,butinfactitspreventingus.Itsactuallytheobstacle.Its
verytricky.Andonceyougetoutofyourhead,youllgetit.Eachtime,youllgetit.
Andeverytimeyouhavetokeepregettingit.Peoplecantbelievetheyhavetokeepre
gettingit.HowcomeIforgotthis?Andgraduallyyougetthatthatspartofthe
process,youjustforgetit.Andyoujustkeepremembering.
Whenyoureinatransmissionprocesslikethis,itactivatesthatwhichisholdingback.
Itbringsittotheforeground,usually.Peoplethink,itssointense,IdontknowifIcan
handlethis.
But
you
just
take
as
much
as
you
can
take,
thats
all.
And
then
distract
yourselfforawhile,turnontheTV.Surftheinternet.Whatever!Takeabreak.
Itssimilartoexercise;oneofthemostimportantaspectsofexercisingisnotexercising.
Takingabreak.Notoverdoingit.Butwego,Ohno,Ivegottagetenlightened,Ive
gottasitonthatzafu24hoursaday7daysaweekuntilImenlightenedHey,Iwas
there.ImjustgladIdidnttearthecartilageinmyknees.Idefinitelypaidapriceforall
that,but,hey,Iwasyoung.Alotyounger,anyway.Butalotofmyfriendsdidwreck
theirknees,andtheirbacks.Theydidalotofdamagetothemselvesphysically,trying
togetenlightened.Itwasignorance.Theyjustdidntknow.Nowadays,wecansitin
chairs.Youdonthavetositinafulllotus,tortureyourself(unlessitscomfortabletositlikethat,ofcourse).SomeofthefirstpeopleIstudiedwithactuallybelievedthatifyou
didntsitfulllotusyouwerentgoingtogetenlightened.Talkaboutalimitingbelief!
Q.Whatiswakingup?
Jon:Wakingupiswhatyouare.Wakingupisthedistinction,theconsciousdistinction,
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betweensufferingandfreedom.Beforewakingupthereisnoconsciousnessoffreedom.
Itsaconceptmaybe,butnotexperience.Wakingupisthetasteoftruth.Wakingupis
notenlightenment;wakingupisonlythetaste,orglimpseofthetruth,ofthe
possibility,ofwhatcancometofruition.Butasanexperienceitcanbeverypowerful,
verymoving.Itcancompletelychangeoneslife,tohaveanawakening.Oritcanbe
avoided,andpushedtotheside,andnotfollowedthroughon.Bygoingbackinto
identification,intojustbeingcomfortable,wemightnotnecessarilygoforward.Theres
noguaranteeofgoingforward.
Intentionisprobablyimportant,butultimatelyIthinkitsreallyanonchoice.Inother
words,sufferingsimplybecomesunacceptable.Yourejustnotwillingtosuffer
anymoreeventhoughyoudo!Thisisdifferentthanwantingtobecomfortable;
wantingtobecomfortableavoidspain,seekspleasure.Wantingtobefree,ontheother
hand,divesinthroughthepain.
Itsongoingworktopayattentionnotjustwhenyouremeditating,butallthetime.
Yes,meditationisgreat.Itcanbeveryhelpfulnotnecessarilyinallcases,butforsome
peopleitcanbe.Forothers,though,itsjustanotherwaytostayindenial.Togoto
sleep.Whatever.Butyoureawake!Andtheresstillthestuffatthesametime,right?So,
canyouallowyourselftoexperiencethatconflict?
Divetotallyintothismoment.Dontdistractyourself.Cutoutallthedistractions,every
oneofthem;cultivateonepointedness.Nothinglessthanthatisgoingtoworkforyou.
Itsright
in
this
moment
Im
talking
about,
not
tomorrow
or
whenever.
You
can
feel
it;
youjustfeltit.Rightnow.Thatsit.Youredistractingyourselfwithallthestuff.
Thatswhyinmeditationpracticetheyhaveyoufollowthebreath,tocultivateone
pointedness.Itsnotattention;itscompletesurrender.ItswhatPoonjajiusedtotalk
about,beingcompletelystill.Thatsit,beingcompletely,100%still.Andwhathappens
isthatyougetthepresence,buttheheartisblocked,andthatswherestuffisgoingto
bemoving.Andifyoudontwantthat,ifweavoidthepainthatsintheheart,themind
canreallygoonatrip.Itreallygetsonatreadmill,fueledbythepainthatsnotbeing
felt.Themindwillgiveyoueveryreasonintheworldnottobehere.Itwilltryitsbest
tofigureeverythingoutthatswhatitdoes.
Sowhateveryourefeeling,rightnow,bethat,withoutdrawingconclusions.Evenif
thereareconclusions,justletthemgooninthebackground.Dontgiveyourattention
totheconclusions;giveyourintention.GiveyourattentiontoThis,thatswhat
intentionmeans.Thisisintention,rightnow.Onepointednessisintention,thatswhat
itmeans.Itsnotaconceptinyourhead.Thatsnotintention,thatswillpower.
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Andthatsokatthebeginning.Alittlewillpower,noproblem.Oryouusewillpower
whenyouneedit.Likeahybridcar;itcanswitchsystems.Forinstance,youneeda
littlewillpowertogetyourselfhereonMondaynights.Right?Onceyourehere,you
canletgoofthatwillpower.Butifyourealwaysinwillpower,thenyourestuck.
Thegoodnewsisthatyourenotunconscious.Yourefamiliarwiththistruththatyou
are.Thatsthegoodnews.Thehumanexperiencethatneedstobetraversedasaresult
ofthatisaveryimportantpartofthejourneyitcantreallybebypassed.Were
emotionalbeings,weresentientbeings,thatswhatthatmeans.Werefeeling,wefeel.
Weliveinaculturethatstopheavy.Toomuchintheheadinformationoverload.We
havetogetdown,intothebody,intotheheart.Thatswhatsimportant.Otherwisethe
mindisatorturechamber.
Letyourselfbethefeeling.
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LettingGoHowisitpossibletoletgo?Ifwerealwaysmovingforward;alwaysgoingsomewhere;
howcanweletgo?Andwhatarewelettinggoof?
Oftenwhenyoustopforthesefortyminutes,ifoutinyourlifeyouvereallybeengoing
relentlessly,youjustfallasleep.Youjustkindofgounder.Thebodyneedstogounder;
itsjustbeengoing,going.Sowelearntostop,welearntoactuallystoptheforward
movement.Thatswhatmeditationisausefultoolfor,justbasicallystopping;
consciouslystopping.
Whenwerealwaysmovingforward,wecantbeawareofwhatsunconsciouslybeing
heldonto.Becausewerethinking,andplanning,anddoingBeingsomebody
TakingcareofbusinessImalwaysamazedwhatareliefitistostop.Eveninthe
midstofunbelievabledemandsandactivityandresponsibility,aneverlengtheningtodolist.Theonlywaytoletgoistobringintoconsciousnessthatwhichisunconscious.
Itsverydirtywork!
Sowhenwestop,ofcoursewhatisunconsciousbeginstoemergeintoconsciousness.
Andoftenitsnotverypleasant,particularlywhenitsphysicalthetensionsthatwe
buildupthroughourcopingmechanisms,thewayswegetthroughtheday.So
historicallyalotofphysicalculturehasbeendevelopedinspiritualcircles.Yoga,taichi,
aikido,thevariousmartialarts;healingpractices,breathingpractices,qigong.Theyre
allbased
on
meditation,
really;
theyre
all
based
on
stillness.
Stillness
thats
conscious,
thatsheldnotrigidly,butsoft,open,balanced.
IthinkintheWestwevemainlycontributedthepsychological,thepsychodynamic.
Theindividual,psychodynamicpsychologythatstheareathatsmostunconscious.
Thebeliefstructures,thementalconditioning.Thatsprobablythemostdangerous
landscapethatweeventuallymusttraverse,mustencounter.Ofcoursetheemotionalis
reallythegatewaytotheheart,tothebigheart,totheunnamable;theinfinite
consciousnessthatweare.
Usuallywestopfeelingbythinking.Weseparatefromfeelingbyanalyzingorcompartmentalizing, bythewayswedefinethings.Thementalrealmisveryoften
mostlyadefensemechanism.Soofcourseinsomanytraditions,wisdomisbasically
equatedwithnotknowing.
Ofcoursehereinourculture,intheinformationage,knowingisKing,itsGod;its
whatsrewarded.Notknowingisunthinkable.Itsradical,itssubversive.Andof
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course,ironically,itcantbeunderstoodintellectually.Notknowingisntlikedumbing
down,orbeingstupid;thatsnotwhatitis.Itsreallymorelikethewonderofachild,or
atouristinSanFranciscoonthecablecarforthefirsttime.Everseenwhatpeoplelook
likeonthosethings?Likeadogwithitsheadoutofthewindowanditstongueblowing
inthewind.Everythingsnew!
Actually,Ivelivedheremostofmylife,andImalwaysamazed,drivingaroundthe
city,athowIalwaysseesomethingnew.Always!Imeanjustintermsofbuildings,
architecture,itslike, Oh,Ineversawthatbefore!Happensallthetime,itsjust
amazingtome.Thereisasenseofappreciationofbeauty,becausetheresnothing
comparedtoit;perceptionisrightnow,itsnotrelatedtosomethingelse.Thatcanonly
happentoamentalprocess.
Notknowingisreallyseeingdirectlywhatis.Itdoesntmeanunderstandingitor
intellectualizingit.Itdoesntmeancomparingitoranalyzingit.Itmeansperception,directperceptionofwhatis.Thatsallthatsreallyrequired,completely.Whetherits
physicalawareness,mentalawareness,emotionalawarenessthatsallthatsrequired.
Seeingthingsdirectlyastheyare,feelingthemdirectlyastheyare,hearingthem
directlyastheyare.Soyoucouldcomehereandlistenandnotunderstandasingle
wordofit,thatsfine.Justhearit,justasitis,andletitbe.Tryitout!
Weassumeweunderstandwhenwerelisteningandtalkingtosomebody,wheninfact
werereacting,makingassumptions,projecting,andwedontevenknowweredoing
that.People
often
end
relationships
with
false
assumptionshave
you
ever
done
that?
Itsmuchmoreinterestingtotryonnotknowing.Ofcoursethatdoesntmeanwerenot
goingtoreact,aslongasreactivityisstillpresent.Butwecanbeavailabletothe
contractionofthereaction.
Whatdoesthatmean,beavailabletothecontractionofthereaction?Imean,youre
talkingtosomeonethatyouknow,andallofasuddentheysaysomethingortheydo
something,andallofasuddenyourbodyclamps,yourstomachgetstight,oryouhave
aheadache,oryoureangry,orafraid,orsad,orsomething.Somephysicalreaction,
maybeacombo.Right?YouknowwhatImtalkingabout.Theresareaction.
Sothenwhat?Thatswhatsimportant:thenwhat?Wheredoyouputyourattention
then?Doyoujustmovefurtherintounconsciouscontraction,thewantingtogetaway
fromit,todistractfromit?Becomemoreunconscious,inotherwords?Thatsusually
whathappens.Andwedontevenrealizeituntilwereverytired.Ittakesalotof
energytocultivateunconsciousness, itsaveryheavy,veryexhaustingcondition.And
maybeforawhile,youthinkyoureholdingon,holdingontosomething.Andmaybe
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youreatwork,andyoucantreallybreakdownandcry,orwhatever.Becauseyouve
gottodealwithyourresponsibilities,andtheyexpectyoutobeprofessional,andsoon.
SoyougohomeandsaymaybeIllsitalittlebit,Illjusttunein.Oryoucomehere,and
wanttotuneinalittlebit,maybeamplifytheconsciouschannel.Thatswhatwedo
here,oronretreat,weamplifytheconsciouschannel.Orinmeditation,thatswhat
weredoing,wereturningupthevolumeofconsciousness.Ofcourse,itcanbealittle
difficultuntilyougetthehangofit.Peoplethink well,Imeditatedfiveminutesthis
week,meditatedoneminutelastmonth.ThatsaboutalltheconsciousnessIcantake
rightnow!ToomuchontelevisionIneedtocatchupon,toomuchnews;theresalotto
keeptrackof!
Thereisalottokeeptrackof,noquestionaboutit.Butconsciousnesscreatesspace;it
createstimeandspace,actually.Itsreallykindofmiraculoustodiscoverthat,tofind
thatout.Howisthatpossible?Idontknow.Butitdoes,youshouldtryit.Cultivatingconsciousnessactuallycreatestimeandspace,andreducesstress.Ithinkweveallhad
experiencesofit,youprobablyknowwhatImtalkingabout,thoughImaynotbe
sayingitinthewayyoulanguagethings.
Youknowthefeelingyouhavewhenyoureonvacation,andyoudonthavetogo
anywhere,donthavetodoanything?Thatsagoodfeeling,isntit?Thepressuresoff,
noonesgoingtobugyouorwantsomething.Theresafeelingofnopressure.Thatsa
goodfeeling.AndthatswhatImean!Developingconsciousnesscreatesthatfeelingof
nopressureeven
when
theres
so
much
to
do.
Thats
the
weird
part.
In
some
ways
nothinghaschanged,andinanotherwayeverythingisdifferent.
Soyoubegintoliveasspaciousness.Youbegintoliveinthetimeless.Andthetimeless
hasasenseoflotsoftime;Imeanallthetimeyouneed.Andthemind,themental
activity,becomesaverycompassionate,friendlyally.Ithinkmostpeoplewouldsettle
forthat.Forgetenlightenment;justtohaveamindthatyougetalongwith,thatwould
benotbad,youknow?Illtellyouhowtodothatfirst.Firstthingsfirst,asmymother
usedtosay:
Whenindoubt,feel.Thatsall.
Mentaltorturehappensbecausesomethinghasntbeenfelt.Itsthesurfacesiren,thecar
alarm.Thatannoyingthingthatgoesoffwhenyouretryingtosleep(ifyouliveinSan
Francisco,youknowexactlywhatImtalkingabout!).Soinsteadofgoingoutand
smashingthatcarwiththealarm,goinandfeel.Becausethetortureisamentalalarm;
theobsessed,unhappymindistheresultofemotionalenergythathasnotmoved,likea
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present,itslikethedifferencebetweenDSLanddialup.Muchfaster!Likeadirectline.
Whenyoulearnhowtousethat,itslikerocketfuel.
Butyoustillcantbypassyourownstuff.Oftenpeoplehaveawakeningsandthey
think,phew!Imdone!Idonthavetomeditateanymore,donthavetokeeplookingat
allthispainfulstuff.Themindthencomesupwithallkindsofconclusions,whichare
usuallywrong,andyoufindthatouteventually.Butifyoustayconsciousthisvery
processcanbereallyuseful.Youmightsayitstheultimatecooker.Wereanamazing
ecosystem,youknow,thiswholepsychospiritual, bodymindcomplex,infinite
unknowablemysterythatweare.Prettyfaroutstuff.Prettyfarouttoexplore.AndI
likethat.
IoftensaythatIfindtheusefulattitudestohavearethoseofexplorerandscientist.
Explorer:likeyoureinunknownterritory,youveneverbeentherebefore,dontknow
whereyouare.Andscientist:simplyobservingthingsastheyare.Beingveryattentive,watchingverycarefully,andnotwithapreconceivedidea.Allthegreatscientific
discoveriesweremadebypeoplewhowereabletothinkoutsidethebox.Theywere
notcaughtbytheparadigmofthinkingthatwasaroundthem.Theywereabletosee
thingsnobodyelsecouldseebecausetheydidnthavepreconceivedideasaboutwhat
theywereseeing.Allthegreatscientificdiscoverieshavethatincommon.Thomas
KuhnwroteabookhewasaprofessoratStanford,Idontknowifhesstillaround
hewroteabookcalledTheStructureofScientificRevolutions,andhetalkedabout
that,itsveryinteresting.Andthesameistrueinourowntransformation.Thatswhat
Ivebeen
talking
about
tonight.
SoIguessthequestionthatIhaveforyouis,whatdoyouwant?Whyareyouhere,or
whatareyoulookingfor,whatisitthatyouneed?Startthere.Thatstheonlyplacewe
canalwaysstart,wherearewerightnow.Whatisityouneedrightnow,orwhatisit
thatyouwant?
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TheMirrorLatelyIvebeenbeginningthetalkswithsilentinteraction,whichisthedeepestformof
teaching.Onewayoranother,itsamirror.Amirrorofemptiness,oramirrorof
struggle.Comfortableoruncomfortable.
Howdowerelatetotheuncomfortable?Ortothecomfortable?Usuallywerelatetothe
comfortableortheegorelatestothecomfortableas Iwantmore; Iwantmore
pleasure. Andthatsok!Whatswrongwithwantingmorepleasure?Thatshuman
nature.Thatsbuiltintothehardwiringofourbodymindstructure.Andobviouslywe
dontwantstruggle,wedontwantdiscomfort;andthatswhyweseek.Thatswhywe
seekfreedom,orthepotentialforfreedom,fromsuffering.Sufferingskindofa
bummer!Wetryallkindsofwaystoavoidit,andwehavemanywayswecanavoidit.
Wereendlesslycreativeinthatway.Butultimatelywerealizethatwecantavoidthis
anymore.Itdoesntwork!Butwellkeeptrying.Theresgottabeawayoutofthis.Right?Sowetry,andtry,andtry.
Thisisaveryoldsubject,actually.Itsbeenaroundforcenturies,atleastinthe
literature.InZen,forinstance,thereareallthesestoriesaboutthestudentsayingtothe
teacher, ifwerealreadyenlightened,iftheresnoattainment,thenwhyarewe
meditating?Whyarewepracticing?Andeventodaythatsanissue.Idontknowif
yourefamiliarwiththatsubject.Itsactuallyanimportantareatolookat.Itsveryeasy
togetconfusedonthisone.Ifwhatwearefundamentallyisalreadyliberated,already
free,then
what
is
this
practice
thing?
What
is
this
meditation
thing
about?
Right?
You
mayalreadyknowtheanswertothis;ifso,bearwithme.
Ultimatelythereisnopractice,really.Itsmoreaccuratetosaythattheresacceptanceof
whatis,whichistheabsenceofstrugglewithwhatis.Certainlybysittingstillforaperiodoftimesocalledmeditationwebecomeawareofthedifferencebetweenallowing
whatisandtryingtochangewhatis,andthatsashiftinattention.Whenweallow
whatis,opennessnaturallyhappens.Thelettinggoofthedefensecalledegonaturally
occurs.Thatsallegois,really,adefense.Itsprotection,itsasurvivalmechanism.Its
notaproblem,really.Moreorlessnotaproblem,thatis.Likethebody,moreorlessnot
aproblemforsomepeopleitsmoreofaproblem,forothersless.Wedealwithallkindsofbodychallenges,someofusmorethanothers.Samewithemotionalchallenges
ormentalchallenges:moreorless.
Soaccepting,beingavailableforwhatis,isreallywhatmeditationis.Itsnotadoing.
Itsnotthatyoureimprovingyourself.Itsmorethatyoureallowingbeing.Andinthat
allowing,onerecognizesthetruthatsomepoint,thealreadycompletenessofwhatwe
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are.Andwemayexperiencethatasjustamomentofpeace,oftremendouspeaceor
love,unconditionalloveorconnection,onenesswitheverything.Maybeitsafleeting
experience,veryquick;ormaybeitlingers,andwesettleintosuchness.Andthen
maybewemovebackintothecontraction,wehavethissortofbackandforth.
Theresaphysicstoit,actually,justliketheresaphysicstoallthelawsofnature.
Theresaphysicstoliberation.Sowerealllittlescientistsandexplorersinthe
unknown,andwehavethelaboratoryofourexperiencetobeamirrorforus.Andthis
environmentcanbeaveryhighlypolishedmirrorforrecognizingthetruth,whichis
unnamable,unspeakable.Itsthesilent,atruththatwearealready,butthatweare
paradoxicallylongingfor.
Butliberationisbringingconsciousnessbacktoitself,thatswhatitdoes.And
acceptanceisreallyallowingthattohappen.Thatswhatacceptancereallyis:allowing
consciousnesstoreturntothesourceofitsbeing.Andoftenitsaterrifyingexperience;itcanbeprettyscary.Itcanbringupfear,becauseitslikelettinggoandfalling,losing
control.Thatkindoflettinggocanfeelverythreatening.Itsnotthreatening,actually,
itsveryfreeing;butinitiallyitcanbescary,particularlyifwevegotatightgrip.
Sogentlywelearntobewiththefearoflosingcontrol,andgraduallywebecome
comfortablewithexpansion,withlosingasenseofmeandyou,wheretheresjust
oneness.
Wewant
to
make
it
very
complicated,
of
course.
Our
minds
love
complicating
things,
theylovehavingelaborateexplanations.Infactthatswhattheminddoes;itlikesto
explainthings,organizethings,understandthings.Soitsalittledifficultforthemind,
particularlysincelettinggoonlyhappensintherealmofnotunderstanding.Its
counterinstinctualtoletgo.Becauseholdingonisinstinctual,survivingisinstinctual.
Andlettinggoisnt.
Somentally,itsjustrecognizingandallowingnotknowing.Thatsharder;thatmaybe
thehardestpartofsocalledspiritualpractice.Peoplesay,howcanItrust?ActuallyI,
theego,cannot.Itsactuallyagainsttheegosnaturetotrust.Becausetrustreally,inthe
wayImeanit,isnotknowing.Itsbeingliberatedthatistheessenceoftrust;itsnotanegoexperience.Egoscanttrust;theyhavetoomuchtolose.Theyhavetodefend.
Talkingaboutthisisalittletricky.
Trustiswhatwenaturallyare.Itstheabsenceofego.Itslove,itstheoneheart;itsthe
bigheart.Itsnotapsychologicalattitude;itsflying,soaringininfinitefreefall.Thats
whatImeanbytrust.Sotheresthiswillingnesstositinsilenceandbeavailableforthis
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mirror.Thismirrorofwhatever:onesdiscontent,onesanxiety,onestruth,whatever.It
doesntmatter!Itsnotlike, ohthisisgoodtonight,Iwasgroovin inthelight! Or, this
isacrummynight,Icouldntsitstillandmymindwasallovertheplace. Itsjust
whatever,youknow?Ofcoursewecancertainlysay, Ilikethat,Idontlikethat ,or
Idratherbeatpeacethanatwar.
Sothequestion,then,iscanyoubewithwhatisrightnow?Rightnowmeaningnot
onlythismoment,butanymoment,anytime,anywhere.Canyoubehereforwhats
given,canyoureceivewhatsgiveninthismoment?Orareyouresistingwhatsgiven
rightnow?Areyouagainstit,areyoumovingawayfromit?Orareyoutryingtograb
ontoit?Oristherejust...allowingit?Prettyeasy,right?Thatisntareallycomplicated
setofchoices.AmIagainstit,amImovingawayfromit?AmIgrabbingontoit?Oram
Iallowingit?Thisshouldbefairlyeasytonotice,shouldntit?No?Yeah,maybenot!
Ifoneisinonesmentalprocessitmightbehardtoknow.Soyougetintoyourbody;thatswheremeditationagainbecomesveryhelpful.Mostmeditationpracticesare
bodyoriented.Youfeelyourbodyandfeelwhatsgoingon,sensationsinyour
breathing,andsoon;youstartgettingtunedin,starttogetalittlemoresensitiveto
whatsgoingonhere.Becausethebodyiskindoflikeabiofeedbacksystem.Checkinto
yourbody.Noticehowyourefeeling,whatyouresensing.Maybeyoudontfeel
anything.Maybeyourenumborjustblank;itscertainlypossible.Sojustbeblank,be
numb.Bewhateveritis.Justallowthat.
Thetruth
is,
your
particular
doorway
is
whatever
shere
right
now.
That
sactually
very
difficultforthemindtogrok,tocomprehend.Itreallyis.Ionlysaythatfrom
experience,notbecauseIbelieveit.Idont,Imnotintobelief.Itsnotmything.Idont
recommendit!Beliefisjustanotherbagofstuffitsusefulifitgetsyouinthedoor,
ontoyourcushion,whatever.Butthetruthofyourexperienceisinfrontofyou.Can
youfindit?
Canyousitinfrontofthedoorwayofnotknowing?Thatswhatwecallreadiness.
Readinessisactuallytherealizationthatwecantescapeanymore,thatwecantavoidit
anymore.Thatsreadiness.Noblame,noshame.Thatsall.Andyouknowifyoure
ready,becauseyoushowup.Youshowupregardlessofhowyoufeel.Yousitdownandyoupayattention,regardlessofwhatspresent.Whetheryouwanttoordontwant
toisirrelevant.Yougiveyourselftothismoment:thistoo,thistoo,whateveritis.The
trafficjam.Theresentmentatwork.Whatever.Therereamillionthings,right?Its
endless.Whateveritisthatwepushaway,runfrom,grabonto.Anythinginthat
categoryisfairgame.Sothisreallymeansthateachmomentisanopportunityfor
practice,forawakening,forseeingitasitis;thatsallthatsrequired.Thatswhatit
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means, noattainment.
Weresoattainmentconditioned.Weareconditionedtoachieve,toproduce.Soitsa
littleweirdtotalkaboutthis,becausetheminddoesntunderstandhowitspossible.
Butdoesthemindunderstandhowitspossiblethatyoucanstickaseedintheground,
andeventuallyhavesomethinggrow?Theresnodifference.Andwearethatseed;the
truthofwhatweareisthatseed,anditwillsproutanditwillgrow,allbyitself.Wejust
havetolearntowaterit,andgiveitsun,andtherightearth,anditdoesit!Thatswhat
itmeans, noattainment.
Nooneisexcludedfromliberation.Ithasnothingtodowithworthinessoranything
likethat.Itonlyhastodowithreadiness.Thatsall.Ofcourse,ittakesalotofcourage
tofacewhatisinanymoment,doesntit?Itseasiertohide.Itseemseasiertohide.But
thatssurvival.Ultimately,whenitsnolongereasiertohide,youreready.Whenhiding
becomesmoredifficultthanfacingwhatis,youknowyoureready.Thatsall.Thenyoujustputyourselfinthesaddleandletthebroncokick.Thatsall.Ridethatbronco.Or
thatmagiccarpet;whateveryourpreferredmodeoftravelis!
Itsreallyverystrangetotalkaboutsomethingthatsreallythesimplestthingthereis,
yetwhichisactuallyunspeakable.Butitseemstobeahumanqualitytotalk;welike
talking.So,feelfreetospeakupifyouwantto;raiseyourhand,howeveryouwantto
doit.Yeah!Hi.
Q.What
is
the
role
of
relationship
in
the
spiritual
path?
Jon:Lifeisrelationshipeverywhere,whetherwithlovers,friends,whathaveyou.Soif
yourecommittedtoyourownspiritualpath,andyoureinrelationship,howdoyou
relatetothat,howdoyoudealwiththat?Ithinkthatintimaterelationshipisagreat
mirror.Infactitsoftenthemostdifficultmirror;thepeopleclosesttoyou,whether
yourlover,oryourmother,father,brother,sister...Itswithpeoplewhoareveryclose
thatweoftenbecomethemostdefended.Initiallyyoumaybeinlove,anditsall
groovyandeverything.Buteventually,youknow,thedefensesgoup.Andthatsa
greatopportunity!
Nowitsnotaboutputtingtherelationshipontosomealtarandthenofferingincense,or
somethinglikethat,turningitintoaceremony;itsaboutbeingavailabletotherawness
ofit.Theheatofit.Thesharpnessofit.Andobviouslythepleasureofittoo!Butitsa
veryintensefieldtoworkin.Andthatsprobablywhysomanyspiritualtypesoverthe
centurieshavebeencelibatebecauseinsomewaysitseasiernottohavetodealwith
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somebodyelsethatclosely.Right?Butifyoureinrelationship,ifyoureinvolvedwith
somebody,closely,thenitcanbearealopportunity.
Asyouletgoofwhatis,asyouallowwhatis,relationshipisjustwhatitis.Itworks,it
doesntwork.Itsabumpyroad,itsasmoothroad.Whatever!Youstaywithit,you
dontstaywithit.Oryouwonderwhetheryouregoingtostaywithit.Butitsanother
mirror.Asyouredeepeningintopresence,now,yourpartnermayormaynotbeaware
ofthat.Thatmaynotbetheirthing.Ormaybeitis.PersonallyIdontthinkitmatters.I
thinkultimatelywefindthatanotherpersonsjourneyisreallytheirbusiness,notour
business.AndthatsreallywhatImeanbyacceptance.Andthenitsaverypowerful
placetobe,inrelationship.Becausethenyoureallygettoseewhereyoutrytomakeit
yourbusiness.Andthatcanbeveryliberating;thatcanbeareal,fast,hotfire.
Itsnotsoeasy,though.Anditusuallyrequiresthewillingnesstogrieve,andtheability
toreallyfeelpowerfulemotions.Becausewhenwerebondingwithanotherhumanbeing,thatsaverydeepphysicalattachment.Andifweredealingwiththefreeingof
attachment,weredealingwithaverydeeplevelofinstinct,anditsverypowerful.The
sameistruewithparentsandchildren;itbecomesavery,verypowerfulareatowork,
becauseitssoinstinctual,itsinyourcells.YouknowwhatImsaying?
SoIdontthinkoneshouldbesayingofrelationship, Ishouldbeabovethat. Ithink
theattitudeshouldbemorelike...divein!Divein,itsareallypowerfulfield.Itsavery
interestingareatoworkwith,andoftenitsavoided,ormessedwith.ButIthinkitcan
beareally
great
area
for
cultivating
one
sown
recognition
of
truth;
and
then,
ultimately,youllseethepersonaspurebeingness.
Itslikethatoldsaying:whenapickpocketbumpsintoasaint,allheseesarehis
pockets.So,howdoesyourloverlook?Whatareyouseeing?Andthentakethe
projectionback,andbehonestaboutit.Thatshotwork,hotmeaningitsalittleintense.
Butitsquick,veryquick.Quickinthesensethatitsprobablythefastestwayofletting
go;lettinggoofourattachmentandneedforsomebodytobeacertainway.Thatis
suffering.Bigtime.
Youacceptyourpartner;youacceptthemastheyare.Ordotheyneedtochange,dotheyneedtoimprove?Andisitanydifferentforourselves?See,thatsmypoint.Itsall
relationship,whetheritssomebodyoutthere,orwithmoi.Itsthesamedynamic;its
identical.Soifyourenotinrelationshipthenthegameis,Ineedtochange.Ineedto
improve,Ineedtobeenlightened,Ineedtobefreeofsuffering. Ineedtobefixed.I
needtobefiguredout.IneedtobeunderstoodSamething!
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Soultimatelyitsnotoutthere.Thatswhyitsamirror.Itsnotsoeasytolookinthe
mirror,isit?Canyoulookinthemirrorandseenothing?Canyoulookinthemirror
andbeatpeace?
Werealwaysgettingfeedback.Always,everymoment;thismoment.Notjustwhen
yourefollowingyourbreath,ordoingyourmantra,yourvisualization,whatever.
Whenyourecursinginthemiddleofatrafficjam,oratyourpartnerthat swhen
payingattentionbecomesveryuseful.Youcanstopinthemoment,andreallyletitin.
Andyouseethatithurtstocontractinthatway,toresistwhatis.Resistingwhatis
reallyhurts,doesntit?Whenyoucangrievethelossofthewayitisnt,orthewayyour
partnerisnt,thenyoureonyourwaytofreedom.Thatsallthatsrequired.Itsnotthat
theyhavetochange;whenyoucangrievethelossofwhatyoudidntget,thatswhere
transformationhappens.
Imtalkingaboutrelationship,aboutsomeonewhodidntmeetyourexpectations.Iwasplayingonthattheme.Whenyoucangrievethat,andthenfullyletgo,thentheheart
opens,andacceptanceiswhatis.Andforgiveness,too,thatswhenforgivenessis
present.Forgivenessisntjustsomethingyoulaminateontoyourself,ontoyourattitude.
Itsnotalaminationjob!Itsreallytheessenceofthedeepestclearing;whentheres
nothingleft,thenforgivenessis.Justlikeacceptance;theresnodifference.
Ultimatelywecanfaceeverything.Thatswhatreadinessreallymeans;itstheabilityto
faceanything,ultimately.Andlearninghow,thatsreallytheartofcompassion;its
learninghow
to
become
available
to
our
deepest
grief,
our
deepest
disappointment
or
ourmostprofoundterror,orrage.Imnottalkingaboutactingout,Imtalkingabout
allowingthatdeepenergeticmovementtobefreed,ratherthanheldin.Thatswhy
peoplelikeusdiscoveredthingslikemeditationandyogaandtaichiandqigong;all
thesepracticesturnourbodiesintolightningrodsforenergy.Wecanbegintoseethat
weareonewithmotherEarth,andwecanutilizethatpowerandstrengthofsupport,
whichweneedtobeabletoletgoofourgriefandourfearandourangerour
protection,atallitslevels.
Sothatswhyweinventedthesepractices,spiritualpracticessocalled.Andthatswhy
meditationsittingstill,whichwedidwhenwestartedtonightitsactuallyverysimple,butalsoverypowerful,andveryprofound.Itsaverypowerfulpractice,
actually,tositstill.Obviously!Lookaround.Isthereanythingslowingdownaroundus
inthisculture?Itdoesntlooklikeit;actuallyitlookslikeitsfasterandfaster.Just
gettingtoafourwayintersectionisoftenanextraordinaryevent,Ifind.Whosgoingto
gothroughtheintersectionfirst,andwhosgoingtorunthelight?Itslikethe
Indianapolis500justgoingtothegrocerystore.
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Sostoppingisaveryyogicallypowerfulevent,andnottobetakenlightly.Itdoeswork,
though,ifyoulearnhowtoutilizethetechnology.Thesetoolscanbevery,veryuseful,
soitsreallyworthittolearnhowtousethemwell.
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TheWillingnesstoBeAvailableItsamazinghowsomethingassimpleasjustsittinginsilencetogethercanbesorich.
Ontheonehandtheresnotmuchgoingon;andyet,whatisgoingon,whentheres
nothingto
distract
you?
Itssoeasytogetcaughtindistraction.Buttochoosetostoplikethis,tojustbepresent,
toshowupasIveoftensaid,itrequiresreadiness.Nomoreescapehatches.Oryou
realizethatescapehatchesdontworkanymore.Youmightstilltrythem,actually;but
youcometorealizethattheydontworkanymore.Ormaybeyoukeeprealizingthat,
keeprediscoveringthattheydontworkanymore.Untilfinally,youjustsay,ok.Igive
up.Illjustbehere.Withwhateverspresent.Withwhateverisphysicallypresent,
emotionallypresent,mentallypresent.
Ithinkthehardestpartofthatisnotmakingconclusionsaboutwhatonesexperience
meansrightnow.Isntthatthehardestthing?Tobeavailablewithoutknowingwhatit
means,withoutgettingcaughtintheconclusion,thestoryofit?Thatcanbeanescape
hatch,themeaningofitall.Nottosayitsmeaningless;thatwouldjustbetheopposite
conclusionwheninfactitsbeyondeither,itsallencompassing.Awarenessisall
encompassing.Itexcludesnothing.Soallyouhavetodoisnoticewhereyoure
excluding,whereyourepushingaway,orpulling,struggling.
Soinawayitsverysimple.Butofcourseitcanbeintense,ordifficult,tonothavea
buffer;to
not
protect.
To
allow
the
heart
to
be
open
to
its
vulnerability.
That
swhy
compassionissoimportant;compassionmeanssimplytoallowvulnerability.Allow
notknowing.Allowthevastnessofourbeingtotakeusintotheunknown.
Openingtotheopenness,asJeanKleinusedtosay,meansthewillingnesstobe
availabletowhateverarises.Itseasytoreallywantthepleasureofawakening;
awakeningisagreatpleasure,andagreatrelief.Itsalsoexperientialevidence,you
mightsay,oftheexistenceoftruth,andoffreedom.Sowecontinueonthepath.
Otherwisewedprobablystaydowntheescapehatch,onewayoranother.
Sowewantthepleasureofawakening,butwedontwantthepainofsuffering.But
thatsreallythekey,rightthere.Thekeyisinthenotwanting.Thatstheultimate
doorwaytofreedom,beingavailabletothenotwanting.Painisntthekey;thepainjust
iswhatitis.Thesufferingisinournotwantingthepain,ourresistingit.Orour
wantingit,forthatmatter,whichcanincludewantingtounderstandit,too;wantingto
figureitout.
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Thegoodnewsisitscompletelyoktobehuman,withallthatthatinvolves.Itsnot
aboutgettingtherightmeritbadgessoyoureworthy;goodenough,smartenough,
whatever.Allthatsrequiredisreadiness.Andreadinessgotyouhere,justlike
readinesssomehowgetsthebeetotheflower,andgetstheflowertoopen.Thatsame
mysterybringsustothetruth.
Reallyitsjustreturningustothesourcethatweare.Thatswhy,inasense,wewant
thatbecauseinsomewaysweknowweredisconnectedfromthatwhichweare,we
knowitintuitively,andweusuallyrunaroundtryingtofulfillourselvesinvarious
ways,thinkingthatsgoingtomakeushappy.Butultimatelywereseekingwholeness.
Weseekfreedom,whichisourtruenature.Soessentially,ourselfisbringingusbackto
ourself.Orournoselfisbringingusbacktoournoself,ifyoureBuddhist!
Inasensewecantnotgohome;itsnotpossible.Evenifwerekickingandscreamingthewholeway,itsstillnotpossible,justlikegravityispartofourrealityhereonthis
planet.Therereallyisaphysicstothis.Wearethemysteryofnature.Weareasgrand
astheuniverseitself.Asunknowable.Wearenotseparateatallfromthat.
Ofcourseifyoureexperiencingseparateness,orisolation,orstruggle,thenletstalk.
Letsfindoutwhatsgoingon,putalittlelightonit,sotospeak.Thevalueofthis
dialoguehereistocometotheplacewheresilencespeaks.Soifwhatsspeakingoutis
noise,thenweinteracttoreturntothesilence.
Itsoktoexplorethenoise:thementalnoise,theemotionalnoise,thephysicalnoise,
doesntmatter.Noblame,nojudgmentatall.Isooftenhearpeopledescribingtheir
judgmentsofthemselves.Itsrelentless.Itssadthatwedothattoourselves;howdowe
getintothathabit?Judgmentturnsthehearttostone.Whatdoesittaketosoftenthe
heart,towarmit,soitopensandisavailable?Thatsallthatsrequired.Justbeing
present,thatsit.Ultimatelythatsthewholeoftheteaching.Yougetthat,thenyoujust
hangwiththatuntilitsdone,basically.Thatsaboutit.
Ofcourseitdoesprecipitatethatwhichisstillstruggling,asyouknowifyouvebeenat
thisforawhile.Butthatsok,thatsjustthewayitworks.Itstough,itsdifficult,becauseoftenthemindgoes,wellIguessImnotgettingit,becauseImstillstruggling,
Imstillfrightened,Imstillangry,Imstillconfused,stillsadandfrustrated.Imstill
unsatisfied.Itshardtocontinue,isntit,whenyoureunsatisfied?
Sothesavinggrace,ifyouwill,isgraceitself.Thetruththatweare,thatweallare.
Werealreadyit.Werealreadyfree.Wemaynotrealizeityet;wemaynotbeonewith
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thatyet.Andbelievingitdoesntreallyhelpthatmuch.Believingwontdoit,inother
words.Beliefmaybeuseful,ofcourse,ifitkeepsyouonthepath.Butultimately,like
theysayinZen,talkingdoesntboilwater.
SodoyouknowwhatImeanwhenIsaythetruthofwhoyouare?Isitclearwhatthat
means?Notclearintellectually,butclearinthefullnessofbeing?Thatswhywehave
thismirrorcalledsatsang.Thatsreallywhatitis,thatsitsonlypurpose.
Fundamentally,thatsitstruevalue.Satsangistherealizationthatwerenotseparate.
Theresreallynomeandnoyouatthislevelofawareness.
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ThePainofNotKnowingIntheZenmonastery,inthezendo,themeditationhall,watchesarenotallowed.And
Ivenoticedthathere,duringthemeditation,somepeoplekeepcheckingthetime.Like,
gee,Iwonder
how
much
longer
Im
going
to
have
to
sit
here?
Is
he
late?
Is
he
torturing
meagain?Orwhatever!
Itsreallyrecommendedduringmeditationperiodsthatyoukeepyourwatch
somewhereyouwontseeit.Otherwiseyouredenyingyourselfthepainofnot
knowing.Andthatsanendlessdetour.Dontdenyyourselfthepainofnotknowing!
Thatsaverypowerfulandimportantpain.Itseemsquiteharmless,ofcourse, oh,Im
justlookingatmywatch.Justwanttoseewhattimeitis.Iwanttoknow,isittenmore
minutes,thirtymoreminutes,onemoreminute? Butagain,thatsadetouraround
somethingthatcanbeverypowerful.Becauseultimatelyitsallaboutnotknowing.
Thatsreallythesecretteaching.
Now,youcouldlookatthisasjustanotherruleyouhavetofollow,thatsrestricting
youwhenyoudontwanttoberestricted.Idontknowifthatcomesupforyouinthis
situation,butitmight.Andthatsonewaytoperceivethat,onewaytoseeit;butitsa
waythatwillonlyperpetuatesuffering.Bettertojustexperiencewhatis.Theurgeto
know:feelwhatthatis.Ifyoulookatyourwatchifyousatisfythaturge,inother
wordsthenyoudontgettofeelit.Youtakeitawayfromyourself;youredenying
yourself,actually.Ironic,buttrue.
IntheZenmonastery,atleastwhenIwasthere,ifyoumovedinmeditationyouwere
hitwithastick.Notabusively,ofcourse,itwasdonewell;andtherewasaphysiology
toit,itstimulatedthetrapeziusmusclestohelpyoustayawakeandhelpyoustay
focused.Buttheydiscoveredoverthecenturiesthatsittingstillwasmuchmore
effectivethanmovingaround.Thatsall.Itsnotlikeyouresupposedtobetorturing
yourself,butthereisapowerinstillness.Thepathofstillnessisliketakingthe
ConcordetoEuropeasopposedtorollerskatingandswimmingtoEurope.Again,its
notmeanttobetorture;itsmeanttobeawelldiscoveredpieceofadvice.
Sotheneedtomoveisanotherurgeforyoutofeellikeneedingtoknowwhattimeit
isinthemeditationperiod.Simplyfeelthaturge,thatcompulsiontomove.Nowif
youreinpainandyouneedtoshiftyourpositionbecauseyoureinjuringyourself,
thenmove,obviously.Butexperimentwiththat,becausewerecookinghere.Thisisa
cooker,thisisalittlemicrowavewevegotgoinghere.Yourecookingfromtheinside
out,andalsofromtheoutsidein.
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Itcanbehelpful,whenyouresitting,justtogiveyourselfalittleencouragementtostay
withwhatisrightnow,asbestyoucan.Andifyoureallywanttoknowwhattimeitis,
reallywanttoknowhowmuchlongeryouregoingtohavetositthere,thenfeelthat
wantingtoknow,feelthatpain.Otherwiseyoudontgettofeelit,andthenitcomesup
again,andagain,andagain.Butifyoureallyfeelit,youredone.Thestruggleends.
Thenyoucanenjoyyourself.
Stillnessistheeaseofbeing.Itsnotholdingyourselfstill.Itsnotholdingbackfrom
moving.Notlookingatthewatchisrelaxingintonotknowing,relaxingintothe
discomfortofnotknowing.Thegrief,thesuffering,thefear,whateveritis.Theanger,
theanxiety,therestlessness,theimpatience.Whatever.Itsgivingspacetothat.
Ironically,itsstillnessthatallowsthattomovewhichneedstomove.Thatsall.
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TheFruitionofthePathIwanttotalkaboutthisideaofwhatkindoflifestyleisnecessarytotakeaspiritual
journeyseriously.AndIjustwanttosaythatitdoesntmatter.Itdoesntmatter
whetheryoure
amonk
or
ahouseholder.
It
doesnt
make
any
difference
at
all.
Theres
noguaranteeonewayortheother,andnohindranceonewayortheother.Ultimatelyit
isntaboutthat.
IwanttotalkaboutJeanKlein,whowasmyfirstrealizedteacher.Hewasnotamonk.
Hewasamedicaldoctor,andaconcertviolinist,andamusicologist,andhadtwo
growndaughtersbeforehereallyenteredhispath.Infacthewasonthelasttrainoutof
GermanyintoFrancebeforetheNazisclosedtheborder;itwasatumultuousperiodof
time.AndhewentofftoIndiatoexplorethedeepermeaningoflife,becauseclearly
whatwasgoingoninEuropewasinsane.IwanttogetbacktoJeanlaterwhenwetalk
aboutintegrationandleavingtheretreat,becausehehadsomethingstosaythatIthink
arereallybeautifulandappropriate;butIdontwanttosaythemjustyet.
Theonlythingthatsrequiredforthespiritualjourneytocometofruitionisthatone
hastocometothatplacewheretheprofounddesiretobefreeofsufferingisthe
numberonepriority.Thatsallthatsrequired;therestwilltakecareofitself.Thatsthe
onlythingthatsrequired.
Q.Putanotherway,youdhavetobesufferingintolerably?Isthatthesamething?
Jon:Couldbe.Buttherearemanypeoplewhoaresufferingintolerablywho
fundamentallywanttobecomfortableinatemporalsense,soIwouldntsaythatthat
wasit,necessarily.
Icantalkaboutmyowncase,whichsomeofyoumaynotknowabout.WhenIwas
sixteen,Ireachedapointinmylifewhereitwaseitherfindhappinessordie.Iwasso
drivenandsoachievementorientedthatIreallymadetypeAlookcatatonic.Seriously!
Thatsthetruth;anybodywhoknewmebackthenwillconfirmit.SoIwasverylucky
thatIhadanawakeningatsixteen,becauseotherwiseIdbedead.
Interestinglyenough,Ididntknowwhathappenedtomeatthetime.Itwasclearlya
bigexperiencewhichisaninterestingstoryinandofitselfbutIdidntreallyknow
whathadhappeneduntilIwastwenty,whenIwasfortunateenoughtohaveareading
withAnneArmstrong,averyrespectedpsychic.ShetoldmethatIdhadmany
lifetimesasacelibatemonk,andthatIknewwhattodotosetmyselfup,asayoung
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personinthislife,tofacilitateanawakeningatsixteen.BecauseIwasntreligious,andI
didntknowanythingaboutmeditationorspiritualityoranythinglikethat.
Anyway,ithappened,anditchangedmywholelife,andsheacknowledgedwhathad
happenedtomewhenImetherattwenty.ButwhatIwantedtosaywasthatthatwas
thebeginningofthepath.Theawakeningwassortofawakeupcall.Manypeople
awakenbutdontnecessarilygetonthepath.Awakeningisreallynotabigdeal;its
reallywhatweare.Graceisreallyourfundamentalnature,andmanypeople
experienceitinmanydifferentways.Butitdoesrequirebeingattheendofyourrope,
toacertaindegree,forfreedomfromsufferingtoreallybecomeyourmainpriority.
Thatsabsolutelyessential.Becauseittakesakindofdeterminationthatisunrelenting.
Butyouvedemonstratedthatdetermination,actually;thatswhatImheretosay.
Youvealreadydemonstratedthatthisweekend,evenifyoureinaprocessrightnow,
evenifyourenotreallyinagroovyspace.Therearepeoplewhoareinaverygroovyspacerightnow;Iknow,Ivebeentalkingtothem.Iwontembarrassthemby
mentioningtheirnames,buttheresarangeofwherepeoplearerightnowinthisroom.
Soifyoureinaprocess,andalothasbeenstirredup,becarefulnottojudgethequality
ofyourretreatbasedonthat.
Thetruthis,yourenotqualifiedtojudgeit.Youdontreallyknowhowyouredoing.
Thatsreallythetruth.Thatsnotaputdown;thatsreallythetruth.Ifyouliveinthe
question,youllfindoutovertime.Ifyoureconfused,orifyourestirredup,I
encourageyou
to
hang
in
there.
In
away,
its
kind
of
tricky
to
come
to
ashort
retreat,
whereitsactuallyveryhot.Itsalittletricky,becauseitdoesmovealot.Thosewho
havebeenherenumeroustimesandhavehadtheexperience,theygetit.Butifyou
havent,andyoudontknow,itcanbealittledisorienting.
Soyoulltaketheretreatwithyou.Theworkyouvedoneheredoesntendhere;its
goingtocontinue.Somepartofyoumadethechoicetobehere,andIbelieveyoucan
trustthatpartofyou.Andwhenyouleave,reallytaketimetocheckinwithyourself,to
bestill,tonotjustautomaticallygetbackintoallthehabitsofyourlife.Itsveryeasyto
dothat;itslikeatsunamithatsreadytoswallowyouupassoonasyougetoutthe
door.Itcanhappen!SoIreallyencourageyoutomaketheefforttobeconscious.Andstoppingmeditatingcan help.
OneofthethingsthatJeansaid,whichIreallythinkisappropriate,wasitsnotgood
toworktoomuch.Hesaid,spendsometimeeverydayinopenness.Hedidntsay
sitonyourcushionandmeditatefortyminutesaday.Butitmightturnouttobethat
way.Oritmightbethreehours,whoknows?Itsnotarigidprescription.Healsosaid,
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whenthereisnoonemeditating,thenmeditationishappening.Theformof
meditationisnotmeditation.Theformsofmeditationareasetupto,Godwilling,
discoverrealmeditation,thesocalledopenness,orgrace,ofourtruebeing.
Soyoubecomeavailable,eveninthestruggle,evenintheturbulence.YousayOK,yes
tothiseven,yestothismoment;andthenallowtransformationtohappen.Andyou
maycry,andyoumayscream,andyoumayshakeinfear;allofthatmayhappen.
Thatsjustmovement,thatsjusttheunwindingoftheegoprotectivewall.Thatisnot
whoweare,thatsjustthecrumblinganddissolvingofthefalseself.Letithappen.
Thatswhatyouwant.Isntit?
Thetruthis,youvedoneincrediblywellhere.Itsbeenabeautiful,beautifulretreat.Its
anincrediblepleasuretobesittingwithyouthismorning,andjustfeelinghowyouve
beendoingyourwork.Believeitornot,youhavebeendoingyourwork.Theresahuge
differencefromdayone,fromwhenwearrived.Huge.Andforthosethatknowme,Idontfibaboutthatkindofthing.
Everyonespathisunique.Itsimportanttoknowthat.Youmayreadbooksby
teachers,orpeopleyourespect,andthink,wellIguessthatsthewayitssupposedto
happen.Thatswhathappenedtothem,right?OrifItellmystory,itswhathappened
tome.Butyouhaveyourownstoryinthatregard,andthatsgoingtounfoldinitsown
uniquewayforyou.Therearecommonelementsthateveryoneshares,andwhenyou
begintogetit,youcanbenefitfromhearingthemandunderstandingthat.Butthetruth
is,your
own
unfoldment
is
really
very
specific
to
you.
Thatswhyitssoimportanttopayattention,closely,soyoubegintoletitunravel.
Theresnooneelsewhocandothatworkbutyou,theresnotgoingtobeanygreat
guruwhosgoingtozapyouintoenlightenment.Youmightgethigh,youknow,ina
satsangenvironment,andkindofdigthathigh.Thatsnice,butthatisntgoingtodoit
foryou.Youcangetaddictedtothat,andthenyoustayinthatimmature,adolescent
spaceofwantingittobeservedtoyouonasilverplatter.Anditaintgonnabe!
Soonceyouveawakenedandyoubegintogetthehangofit,itsimportanttotake
responsibility,tobegintomovetowardsthetruththatyouare,andtorealizethatultimatelyyoucantrelyonanybodyelse.Onnoteacher,noanything.Imnotsaying
youshouldntgetsupport;supportisactuallyvery,veryimportantformostpeople.
Learninghowtogetsupportisalsoimportant,andImhappytotalkaboutitwith
anybodywhowantstoexplorethat.
Ihavebenefitedgreatlyfromsupport.ItmaysoundlikeIvebeenblessedwithGod
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knowshowmanyincredibleteachersandhealersthatIvebeencloseto,whohave
mentoredme,anditstrue.ButthatsbecauseIabsolutelycouldnthavesurvived
withoutthem!Iwaswillingtogoanywhereonthisplanet,spendanymoney,devote
anyamountoftimeIhadto,becauseIdidnthaveachoice!Itwasthatordeath.
Sothatshowitworkedforme.Andtheresalotavailabletoday,intermsofsupport.
AsIwassayingtoAdyatheotherday,Imjustfindingouthowtodothis,Imjust
learninghowtoteach.Andhesaidright,thatshowitworks.Imfindingouthowto
besupportive,inaway.Itstricky!Verytricky.Anyway,IhopethatImusefultoyou.
Whatever!
Theworkthatyoudoiswhatmatters,whatreallymatters.Andthen,asyougetthe
fragranceasoneofmyteacherssaid,whenyournoseiscleanyoucansmellthe
flower.Whenyougetthefragrance,thenyourejustpluggedrightintothe
transmission.Andthenthatsveryuseful;itsactuallyveryhelpful.Justrealizeitsyou.Itsnotthatguyoverthere.Itsnottheyouthatstheme.Itstheoneness.Andwhen
youretunedinthere,fallinloveasmuchaspossible.Completelysurrendertolove.
BrotherDavidoncetoldmethatamonkisencouragedtofallinloveasmuchas
possible.Whichdoesntmeantobeattachedtoeverysingleperson;thatsnotwhathe
meantbylove.Hemeantthebigheart,theopennessofbeing.Therealizationthatwe
arenotseparate.Thatislove.Thatisintimacy.Andifyourenotusedtoitits
downrightfrightening,usually.
Pleasecultivatenotknowing.Findouthowtocultivatenotknowing.Becreative.Let
meknowwhatyoudiscover;everybodysmindworksdifferently.Imnotsaying
cultivatestupidity.ThatsnotwhatImsaying!Trustme,Ihadtofigureoutevery
singlethingthateverhappened.Itoldyou,mymotherusedtogetmethesepuzzles,
andIwasgoingtofigurethemoutcomehellorhighwater,andIwouldsitandwork
onthosethingsforeighthourswithoutstopping.SoIwasverycompulsiveintermsof
figuringthingsout.
WhenIwasonaretreatwithJeanKleinatMt.Madonna,many,manyyearsago,abig
shifttookplace.Andhesaid,Liveinnotknowing.Andtheefforttofigurethingsoutdropped,completely,atthatpoint.Anditwaslike,aaahhh,itwaslikeathousandtons
ofbricksweretakenoffmyback,andIcouldnotbelieveit.IreallyrealizedthatIdidnt
havetofigureitoutanymore,thatthatwaslikepushingatentonboulderuphill:
pointless!Itwassucharelief,Icouldntbelieveit.Itwasjustopeningtothepresence,
realizingthatwastheteacher,thatwastheguide,thatwasthefireoftransformation.
Thatwasthetruth!ItwasntwhatIthought;itwasntwhatIbelieved.
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Imspeakingatthedeepestlevel,now,aboutthedeepestlevelofunderstanding.The
understandingofnotknowing.Itsarelief,ahugerelief,andyouwillfeelit.Forthose
thatknow,youknowwhatImean.Itsahugereliefwhenthatburdenofneedingto
knowfallsoff.Maybejustforamoment,maybeforanhour,maybeforaweekend.
Maybefortherestofyourlife.Godwilling!
TheDalaiLlamasaidthatthepurposeoflifeistobehappy.Iagree.Wealldeservethat.
Everyonedeservestobehappy.Thatsreallywhatwewant,Ibelievethatsreallywhat
wewant.AndIpraythateachandeveryoneofyoufindsit.
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JonexpressesdeepgratitudetohisteacherAdyashanti,whocloselyandwithlove
mentoredJontofruitiononthepathandaskedhimtoteach.
Jonexperiencedhisfirstawakeningattheyoungageof16,leadinghimtospendmany
yearsintensivelypracticingintheZenandVipassanaBuddhisttraditions.Alongthe
way,hisspiritualunfoldmentwasgreatlyenhancedbycloseteacher/student
relationshipswithAdvaitamastersJeanKlein,H.W.L.Poonja(Papaji)andRobert
Adams.
JonholdsSatsangweeklyinSanFrancisco.Schedulesandcontactinfoareavailableat
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