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2015 Electronic Ignition for Hearth Professionals TomTom Parks, COASTROAD North Central Hearth Patio and Barbecue Association
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Page 1: Electronic Ignition - Welcome to North Central Hearth ... · Electronic Ignition for Hearth Professionals TomTom Parks, COASTROAD North Central Hearth Patio and Barbecue Association

2015

Electronic Ignition

for Hearth Professionals

TomTom Parks, COASTROAD

North Central Hearth Patio and Barbecue Association

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Slide 1 Electronic

Ignition

for Hearth

Professionals

NCHPBA

2015

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Slide 2

About me . . .

• In construction for

last 30 years

• Degree in

electronics

engineering

• In hearth business

since 1998

• Install & service

everything we sell

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Slide 3

About me . . .

• VP and GM of Hearth

& Patio shop

• NFI Master Hearth

Professional

• NFI Instructor since

2008

• On committee that

works on HPBEF Gas

Hearth Systems

manual and test

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Slide 4

Hearth Products Controls

One way to categorize hearth

appliances is by the control valves

they use, which fall into three

general categories:

1. Manual (hand-powered)

2. Millivolt (self-powered)

3. Electronic (externally powered)

o v e r v i e w

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Slide 5 Manual Valves

Require the control valve to be

turned on by hand

May or may not use a flame

detection for safety (pilot light

with thermocouple)

o v e r v i e w

May include a thermostatic

function (thermostat bulb) to turn

burner on and off with changing

room temperature.

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Millivolt valves

Self-powered system

Require a continuous pilot

and thermopile

The thermopile supplies enough voltage

(about a 1/2 volt) to energize a coil inside

the valve to open

The millivolt system allows a separate

control device, such as a wall thermostat,

wireless remote control or wall switch to

operate the appliance

o v e r v i e w

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Slide 7 Electronic valves

By definition, electronic valves use an

external power source, DC or AC

May be remote controlled

without a separate control

module (latchtap)

May include flame height

operation (vari-tap or Maxitrol GV34)

Some systems also include electronic

ignition, using an automatic heat source

instead of a standing pilot for burner

ignition.

o v e r v i e w

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Electronic Ignition

There are several types of electronic ignition, categorized by the ignitortype.

1. I.P.I. – intermittent pilot ignition

Spark-to-pilot ignition

H.S.I. – hot surface ignition (glow plug)

H.W.I. – hot wire ignition (like H.S.I.)

2. D.S.I. – direct spark ignition

(Direct ignition might also be HSI or HWI)

o v e r v i e w

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Electronic

Ignition History

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Slide 10

Electronic Ignition Issues

Early systems used furnace

technology – DSI or HSI & AC

Early systems were much higher cost compared to

standing pilot systems - $500+

h i s t o r y

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Electronic Ignition Problems

Early systems not understood by many of the service people

in the hearth industry

Early systems prone to some

heat transfer problems(things melted)

h i s t o r y

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Electronic Ignition Problems

Early systems had peculiarities

(example: polarity sensitive)

Early systems leaned towards hot surface ignition – trouble

prone in the hearth environment

h i s t o r y

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Slide 13

Electronic Ignition Past

Systems only in markets where

law prohibited standing pilots

(decorative category)

Not all manufacturers produced them

Early systems were dependent on 110 VAC

h i s t o r y

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Today’s

Electronic Ignition

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Current Day Electronic Ignition

Most manufacturers are using

some form of electronic ignition

There is a better understanding of

systems among hearth

professionals

Intermittent pilot types are most

prevalent

t o d a y

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Slide 16

Current Day Electronic Ignition

AC with battery back up is

available

Total battery operation is

available

Battery with manual override is

available (thermocouple)

AC with battery backup &

thermopile is available

t o d a y

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The Future of Electronic Ignition

Consumer demand – energy & cost

savings – standing pilot will burn $30+/-

per month when using propane (about

a litre per day)

Energy regulations may requireelectronic ignition in the near future

Convenience – no bending down to

light pilot

t o m o r r o w

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Slide 18 Current Electronic Ignition

Gas Valves Control Center Ignition Volts

Honeywell Honeywell I.P.I 24 AC

VCG Ambient I.P.I 6VDC/batt/TP

Maxitrol Maxitrol I.P.I/Manual 6VDC

Dexen Dexen I.P.I 3VAC/DC batt

American Flame SkyTech I.P.I. 6VDC/batt

SIT SIT I.P.I. 7VDC/6VDC

t o d a y

. . . and more

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Slide 19

Intermittent Pilot Ignition

or Spark-to-Pilot ignition

Also referred to as I.P.I.

A pilot lights first, and then

the burner lights

When the burner goes out,

the pilot goes out (unless on

continuous pilot)

technical

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Intermittent Pilot Ignition

The system goes to retry if the

pilot goes out unexpectedly

This safety feature is made

possible by Flame Rectification

(or other flame sense)

technical

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Slide 21

The Concept

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Slide 22

BurnerPilot Burner

Grounds (3)

valve

Flame Rod

control module

ignitor

I.P.I.

PS

technical

switch -open

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V

1. Ignitor is powered

I.P.I.

technical

switch - closed

PS

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Slide 24 1. Ignitor is poweredMost have a trial period, and

then the system will go to “lock out”

Some older styles had a 3X try rate, and then would go to lock out

To reset the control, turn off & back on or interrupt the power (switch off, thermostat down then up)

technical

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Slide 25

2. Pilot valve is powered & gas goes to pilot

I.P.I.

PS

technical

switch - closed

V

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V

3. Pilot flame is sensed

DCV

I.P.I.

technical

pilot v.

signal switch - closed

PS

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Flame Rectification

Zone 1 Excess fuel (no combustion)

Zone 2 Combustion

area is ionized and electrons flow

Zone 3 Excess Air

Flame is a conductor of electricity

technical

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Slide 28

Pilot Burner Flame Rod

4 X 1• Flame conducts

electricity

• Four+ times the surface area changes the

voltage from AC to DC

Flame Rectification

technical

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Slide 29

to illustrate . . .

technical

to 1

Can you predict the score on this game?

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Slide 30

to illustrate . . .

technical

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Electrons moving from sensor to pilot head (big target)

Electrons moving from pilot head to sensor (small target)

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Slide 31 Sensing the flame

Once the pilot is proved (flame

rectification) the ignitor will cycle

off, the pilot stays burning

If the ignitor doesn’t quit and the

pilot is on, then there is a flame

sensing problem that must be

resolved.

technical

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Slide 32

V

4. Main valve is powered and burner comes on

DCV

I.P.I.

technical

switch - closed

PS

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V

5.Pilot light goes out, burner goes out

DCV

I.P.I.

technical

switch - closed

PS

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Slide 34

V

6. System Goes Into Relight Mode

I.P.I.

technical

switch - closed

PS

Pilot sensing starts over . . .

Can the sensor be faked out?

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Slide 35

V DCVAC

I.P.I.

technical

switch - closed

Shorted Flame Rod to Pilot Hood

PS

Now for D.S.I. . . .

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V

Burner

Grounds (3)

valve

Flame Rod

Control Center

Ignitor

D.S.I.

technical

switch - open

PS

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Slide 37

V

D.S.I.

1.Spark ignition is initiated

technical

switch - closed

PS

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V

D.S.I.

2.Main burner gas is released

technical

switch - closed

PS

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V

D.S.I.

3. Flame is sensed, gas stays on

technical

switch - closed

PS

DCV

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Slide 40

Control Center OperationI P I D S I

Initiate spark Initiate spark

Open Pilot Gas Open Main Gas

Proof of Pilot Proof of Fire

Open Burner Gas Safety Monitor

Safety Monitor

technical

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Slide 41

Visual

Identification

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Slide 42 Power Supplies

6 Volt DC

battery pack

technical

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Slide 43

Power Supplies

Battery Appliance

Cavity Mounted

6 Volt DC

(Maxitrol)

technical

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Slide 44 Power Supplies

Battery Back-up

Cavity Mounted

3 Volt DC

(Dexen)

technical

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Slide 45 Power Supplies

Transformer

110 VAC

to 3 Volt AC

(Dexen)

technical

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Slide 46 Power Supplies

Transformer110 VAC to 24 VAC

Black WiresHigh Voltage Side

Screw Terminals

Low Voltage Side

technical

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Slide 47 Transformer Construction

Coloured WiresLow Voltage Side

Black and White WiresHigh Voltage Side

Transformer110 VAC to 24 VAC

technical

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Slide 48

Electronic Controls

DEXEN I.P.I.

3 Volt AC

technical

AC adaptor

connection

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Slide 49

Electronic Controls

Label on Dexen

control module

technical

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Electronic Controls

American Flame

6 Volt DC

technical

AC adaptor

“I” ignitor

connection

“S” flame sensorconnection

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Slide 51 VCG Control Module

technical

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Slide 52 Sit ProFlame 1 DFC

technical

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Slide 53

SIT Proflame 1 wiring

technical

(digital flame control)

regulator

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Slide 54 SIT ProFlame 2 IFC

(integrated fireplace control)

technical

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Slide 55 SIT ProFlame 2 IFC

technical

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Slide 56

Electronic Controls

Inside of a

Control

Module

technical

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Slide 57 Typical Control Labeling

M(V) Main valve

P(V) Pilot valve

C Common (might be ground)

S Sensor

I or IGN Ignition (spark electrode)

TR Transformer

TH Thermostat

V Valve

L 1 Hot 110v(black) lead

L 2 Neutral 110v (white) lead

G or GND Ground

technical

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Slide 58 I.P.I.

Sense Rod

Spark Electrode35,000 Volts

Pilot Burner

ignitors

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Slide 59 I.P.I. Ground

Shield

sensing

rodNitride

Hot Surface Ignitor

24 VAC6 Second Warm Up

Pilot

Burner

ignitors

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Slide 60 I.P.I. – VCG

ignitorsensing

rod

Pilot

Burner

ignitors

Thermo-pile

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Slide 61 IPI - VCG Pilot Assembly

ignitors

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Slide 62 D.S.I.

Flame RodIgnitor

35,000 Volts

Ground

ignitors

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Slide 63 D.S.I.

Ground

Combination Ignitor/ Flame Rod

35,000 Volts

ignitors

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Slide 64 D.S.I.

Spark Electrode35.0000 Volts

Ground

Flame Rod

ignitors

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Slide 65 DSI wiring diagram

technical

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Slide 66 Honeywell

Out Pressure

Pilot Adjust

WireTerminals

Regulator Cover/Spring

Change

In Pressure On/off Control

valves

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Slide 67 Honeywell

PV

MVCOM Terminal

Labels

valves

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Slide 68 Robertshaw Operator

Head

RegulatorFlip for Gas

Change

On/Off Control

Terminal Detail

P

C

M

Robertshaw I.P.I.

valves

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Slide 69 Robertshaw valve detail

On/OffControl

valves

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Flame heightServo Motor

Regulator ChangeTurn Screw

American Flame

valves

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Slide 71 American

Flameburner

pressure

incoming

pressure

gas rate set

screw

conversionPilot

Terminal

Burner

Terminalpilot adjust

valves

convertible

regulator

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Slide 72 Maxitrol GV60

Pilot Adjustment accessible thru hole in “ON”

8-wire connection

Servo Motor micro-switch

Manual Override

Servo Motor Connections

Flame Adjustment

valves

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Slide 73

Maxitrol GV60

PressureTaps

valves

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Slide 74

Maxitrol GV60Servo Motor

valves

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Slide 75

Maxitrol GV60

technicalEuro pilot assembly

AC adapter

Battery

compartment

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Slide 76

VCG signature command

Servo Motor

valves

“out”pressure

pilot adjust

battery boxcontrol

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Slide 77 valves

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Slide 78 valves

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Slide 79

VCG Wiring Diagram

technical

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Slide 80

“Out”(manifold) pressure

port

“In” pressure

port

High/Low Flame Control

valves

DEXEN

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Slide 81 SIT PF2 IFC valve

technical

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Slide 82 Wiring Harness

wires often labeled

technical

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Slide 83

Troubleshooting

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Slide 84

Operational issues

Won’t light

Won’t stay lit

Special considerations for Intermittent/continuous pilot

Pilot “on demand”

Anti-condensation setting

Cold weather mode

troubleshooting

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Slide 85

Operational issues

troubleshooting

especially when vertically vented

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Slide 86

Operational issues

troubleshooting

In the case of an aggressive vertical vent,

the pilot will light, proof, and the burner

will light, but the oxygen will be

immediately consumed, so the main

burner and pilot will weaken quickly and

the flame sense will be lost at the pilot.

It will retry a few times, but eventually it will

go into lockout and will have to be reset.

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Slide 87

Helpful Tip

troubleshooting

If the customer prefers not to

leave the pilot on continuously,

turning the pilot on 10-15

minutes before lighting the

main burner will prime the vent

system and alleviate some of

the glass condensation issues.

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Slide 88

Gas valve/control damage

High voltage (lightning,

jumper wires)

High Pressure

High water (flooded)

High temperature (no shield)

troubleshooting

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Slide 89

Ignition Control Damage

technical

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Slide 90 technical

Digital multimeter

Need Direct Current volts.

down to millivolts(tc, tp)

Need Alternating Current

volts (house current,

transformers)

Need Ohms (resistance)

Continuity is nice

Rarely need Amps

(current), except for HSI

systems

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Slide 91 troubleshooting

Isn’t technology great?

Snap a photo of a correct setup before you take it apart. You can use it for reference when you put it back together.

Program all of the manufacturers’ technical help numbers into your phone.

Use a tablet to download installation manuals in the field (using your phone “hotspot”).

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Slide 92

VV

GT H

T R

I G NS

Voltage

AC

Proper “IN” Voltage

Proper “OUT” Voltageto valves

Testing Ignition ControlsLED Flashes

Troubleshooting Code

Power supply

troubleshooting

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Slide 93

DEXEN

WireLabels

troubleshooting

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Slide 94 Gas Control Valves

Pilot Gas Terminal

Gas Type Marking

troubleshooting

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Slide 95 DEXEN

Remove to Test Pilot Coil for Continuity

troubleshooting

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Slide 96 Testing Pilot Coil

Continuity

Ohms

troubleshooting

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Slide 97 Gas Control Valves

Main Burner Terminal

troubleshooting

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Slide 98 Troubleshooting Check List

technical

No spark?

Check power (transformer or batteries)

Check connections, esp. grounds

No pilot flame?

Check gas pressure

Check voltage at valve

No burner flame?

Check connections again

Check voltage at valve

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Slide 99

Troubleshooting Check List

No spark Test Correction

110v power Voltage Check breaker/outlet/switch

Transformer Voltage Replace

Spark Location

Visual Fix/Replace wire,

cracked electrode

Bad Control Replace

technical

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Slide 100 Troubleshooting Check List

NO Pilot Gas Test Correction

Wire Harness Continuity Fix/Replace

Ignition Control Voltage Replace

Pilot Coil Continuity Replace Valve

Gas Flow Pressure Turn on gas

Gas Flow Visual (lighter)

clean orifice,

bleed air

Gas Flow All above Replace Valve

technical

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Slide 101

Troubleshooting Check List

Ignitor keeps sparking Test Correction

Flame Rectification Visual Flame Contact

Flame Rod Continuity Replace

Ground connection Continuity Repair

Ignition Control Switch

leads

Replace

Pilot assembly Switch

leads

Clean/replace

troubleshooting

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Slide 102

Troubleshooting Check List

NO Burner Gas Test Correction

Main Valve wire Continuity Fix/Replace

Ignition Control Voltage Replace

Burner Coil Continuity Replace Valve

Gas Flow low “In” P Supply Pres.

Gas Flow No “Out” P Replace Valve

Gas Flow “Out” P Tube/Orifice

troubleshooting

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Slide 103 SummaryElectronic ignition is here to stay

Systems are getting better

Someday that may be all there is

Electronic Ignition is simple, less

maintenance in some ways

Process of elimination finds most trouble quickly

Fewer pilot cleaning issues, TC or TP issues

Embrace it! This is why you’re still in business

You keep up with technology

Customers trust you to know what you’re doing

This new technology helps you to keep your edge

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