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Esophageal and Transpulmonary Pressure Different results? Laurent Brochard Toronto
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Page 1: Esophageal and Transpulmonary Pressure Different results?€¦ · –Philips (sleep) –Fisher Paykel (Optiflow) –Air Liquide (Helium, CPR) Esophageal pressure monitoring •Technical

Esophageal and TranspulmonaryPressure

Different results?

Laurent Brochard

Toronto

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Conflicts of interest

• Our clinical research laboratory has received research grantsor equipment for clinical research projects from the followingcompanies: – Maquet (NAVA)

– Covidien (PAV+)

– General Electric (FRC, ultrasound)

– Philips (sleep)

– Fisher Paykel (Optiflow)

– Air Liquide (Helium, CPR)

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Page 4: Esophageal and Transpulmonary Pressure Different results?€¦ · –Philips (sleep) –Fisher Paykel (Optiflow) –Air Liquide (Helium, CPR) Esophageal pressure monitoring •Technical
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Esophageal pressure monitoring

• Technical aspects

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From Mojoli et al. 2014

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Pes during passive ventilation and measurements

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Esophageal Pressure Waveform

Ventilator Waveform

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Pes during spontaneous breathing

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Flow

(L/s

)

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-2

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0 3 6 9 12

seconds (s)

Pes

(cm

H 2O

)0

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Paw

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)

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Monitoring underPartial Assist

• PS 15/5 cmH2O

• Vt ≈ 600 ML

• Delta Peso 15 cmH20

• High Delta Ptp = risk (?) of VILI

• Negative pressure =

High LV afterload

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Mauri T, and the PLUG. ICM 2016

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Mojoli F et al Minerva Anesth 2016

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Mojoli F et al Crit Care 2016

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Mojoli F et al Crit Care 2016

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Supine

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Esophageal and directly measured pleural pressure: a validation study on Thiel cadavers

• D L Grieco, …JC M Richard, L Brochard and the laboratory of Trois Rivieres (Quebec)

• Pleural pressure was directly measured in a non-dependent zone (sternal) and in a dependent zone (vertebral) and compared to Pes

• Measurements were repeated prone

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E n d e x p ir a to r y a b s o lu te v a lu e s

M e a n a n d S D d is p la y e d

P e e p

cm

H2

O

0 5 1 0 1 5 2 0 2 5

0

5

1 0

1 5

2 0

2 5

3 0

O e s o p h a g e l p re s s u re

n o n d e p e n d e n t p le u ra l p re s s

d e p e n d e n t p le u ra l p re s s u re

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E n d in s p ir a to r y a b s o lu te v a lu e s

M e a n a n d S D d is p la y e d

P e e p

0 5 1 0 1 5 2 0

0

5

1 0

1 5

2 0

2 5

3 0

3 5

4 0

O e s o p h a g e l p re s su re

n o n d e p e n d e n t p le u ra l p re ss

d e p e n d e n t p le u ra l p re ssu re

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AJRCCM 2016 on line

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From Chen L.

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Transpulmonary pressure: why use it?

• Influence of the chest wall

• Amplitude of Ptp and risk of VILI (stress)

• Setting of PEEP

• Patient-ventilator synchrony

• Weaning and effort

• …More?

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Mauri T, and the PLUG. ICM 2016


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