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ESTATE RECOVERY IS HERE: HOW DOES IT APPLY TO YOUR CLIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES P. Haans Mulder, JD, MST, CFP ® Cunningham Dalman, P.C. 321 Settlers Road Holland, MI 49423 (616) 392-1821 [email protected] Coldwell Banker Woodland-Schmidt
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ESTATE RECOVERY IS HERE: HOW DOES IT APPLY TO YOUR CLIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES

P. Haans Mulder, JD, MST, CFP®

Cunningham Dalman, P.C.321 Settlers RoadHolland, MI 49423(616) [email protected]

Coldwell Banker Woodland-Schmidt

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Background• Attorney and Partner at Cunningham

Dalman, P.C.• Have a Masters in Tax (MST), CFP®

and specialize in estates/elder law and business planning.

Serving the Holland area since 1900

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Background• Cunningham Dalman, P.C. has been serving

the lakeshore since 1900.• We have 15 attorneys specializing in all

areas of the law.

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Overview• Discuss the Medicaid rules and process.• Cover the what, who, when, where, and

how’s of Medicaid. • What is estate recovery and why is it

important to your clients and their families.

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Overview• What types of assets does estate

recovery apply to.• How it might impact your business.• How do your clients and their families

protect against it.

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What is Medicaid?• It is a state and federal program that

pays for medical treatment (including long term care).

• Oftentimes confused with Medicare.

 

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When does Medicaid apply?• Historically, it only paid for nursing

home care. • In certain counties (that have the MI

Choice Waiver program), it will pay for care in someone’s home or in an assisted living facility.

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Who does Medicaid apply to?

• Applies to people who are 65 years or older, blind, or disabled.

• Must satisfy the medical requirements (level of care assessment).

• Need to meet the income and asset tests.

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Who does Medicaid apply to?

• A patient’s monthly income cannot exceed the monthly cost of the nursing home ($6-7,000 in this area).

• For the Waiver program, a patient’s income (not a spouse) must be less than $2,022/month.

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Who does Medicaid apply to?

• The asset test requires that a single person cannot have more than $2,000 in countable assets.

• A patient can keep his or her home (as long as its not in a trust) as well as a vehicle.

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Who does Medicaid apply to?

• Asset test allows a married couple to keep their home (again, if it’s owned properly), a vehicle, and one-half of their other assets (up to a maximum of $109,560).

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What is estate recovery?• It is a process that the State of Michigan

gets reimbursed for the Medicaid services it has paid for.

• It does not put a lien (i.e. Medicaid lien) on exempt assets during a patient’s life or force a sale. 

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What is estate recovery?• It applies to people age 55 years or

older who have received Medicaid (i.e. long term care) services.

• Covers Medicaid services back to September 30, 2007.

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What assets does estate recovery apply to?

• It only applies to assets that have to be probated.

• That has the potential to include all assets (house, bank accounts, investments, vehicle, personal property, etc.).

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What assets does estate recovery apply to?

• But…the only assets that are typically left are: bank account, personal property (including vehicle), and a patient’s house.

• The house will be the most significant asset, but do not lose sight of the others.

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What effect might this have on your business?

• Estate recovery might incentivize patients to stay at home longer.

• Patients might be more likely to sell their house and have more liquid assets for their care.

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How do people protect against estate recovery?

• The most effective way to protect the house is with a “ladybird deed.”

• The house remains an exempt asset during the Medicaid recipient’s life.

• The costs and hassle of probate are avoided.

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How do people protect against estate recovery?

• What about other assets besides the house.

• The patient should make sure those assets avoid probate (i.e. having a trust named as owner, naming a beneficiary, etc.).

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Some other things to be concerned about

• When a single person is on Medicaid, he or she can keep the house.

• However, he or she will not be able to use Social Security and other income to pay the house expenses.

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Some other things to be concerned about

• This typically means that a child or beneficiary must pay these expenses.

• Children should protect their right to be reimbursed by executing and recording a mortgage against the house.

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Some other things to be concerned about

• This gives a child’s reimbursement claim higher priority than the State of Michigan’s estate recovery right.

• A child will get paid when the house sells.

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Some other things to be concerned about

• You should make sure the Medicaid recipient has signed a financial (also known as a general durable) power of attorney.

• That way, the agent can execute the mortgage.

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This is subject to change so you have to stay informed…

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Questions……

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Thank YouP. Haans Mulder, JD, MST, CFP®Cunningham Dalman, P.C.321 Settlers RoadHolland, MI 49423(616) [email protected]@holland-law.comwww.holland-law.com

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