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Faints, fits and funny turns Dr Dominic Heaney Consultant neurologist and honorary senior lecturer ULCH NHS Foundation Trust National Hospital for Neurology and Neurosurgery London
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Page 1: Faints, fits and funny turns - londonscn.nhs.uk · Faints, fits and funny turns Dr Dominic Heaney Consultant neurologist and honorary senior lecturer ULCH NHS Foundation Trust National

Faints, fits and funny turns

Dr Dominic Heaney

Consultant neurologist and honorary senior lecturer

ULCH NHS Foundation Trust

National Hospital for Neurology and Neurosurgery

London

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Emergency department at UCH

• 130,000 patients/year

• Separate from NHNN

• Inner city, varied

demographic

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Clinical history

• Subjective account

– Before/during/after

• Witness account(s)

• Past medical history

• Risk factors

• …

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Generalised tonic-clonic seizure

• loss of consciousness

• ‘epileptic cry’

• fall (injury)

• tonic phase then clonic jerking

• tongue biting, incontinence, cyanosis

• sudden onset, gradual recovery

• post-ictal confusion, sleep,

headache, muscle pain

• aura/partial features if SGS

1. Idiopathic generalised

epilepsies

2. Symptomatic generalised

epilepsies with wide range

underlying pathology

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Generalised absence seizure

• blank stare

• loss of consciousness

• cessation of motor activity

• blinking, eye rolling, minor tone change

• sudden onset, rapid recovery

• brief, many attacks per day

• usually in IGE

• generalised spike and wave discharge

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Simple partial seizures

• no alteration in consciousness

• no amnesia

• sudden onset and cessation

• focal symptoms or signs:

motor

sensory and special sensory

psychic (dysmnestic, cognitive, affective,

hallucinations, illusions)

• reflect anatomical origin of the seizure

• due to focal cortical pathology

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Complex partial seizures

• Temporal lobe 60%

• Extra-temporal 40%

(mostly frontal lobe)

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Temporal lobe seizure

• aura (as SPS: visceral, dysmnestic), brief

• altered consciousness

• amnesia

• automatism (oro-alimentary, gestural, verbal)

• sudden onset, gradual recovery

focal spikes

rhythmic ictal discharge

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Frontal lobe CPS

• brief stereotyped seizures

• frequent attacks with clustering

• nocturnal +

• sudden onset and cessation

• complex bilateral motor automatisms

• secondary generalisation

• interictal and ictal EEG variable

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Other extra-temporal partial seizures

Central Contralateral jerks (march)

Contralateral sensory

Posturing

EEG often normal

Parietal Somatosensory

Illusion of change in body size/shape

Vertigo

Gustatory

Occipital Elementary visual hallucinations

Visuo-spatial distortion

Amaurosis

Head turning (usually adversive)

Eyelid flutter, blinking, nystagmus

May propagate to adjacent

cortical regions

EEG : focal / non-localised /

anterior

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Epilepsy epidemiology

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Head injury

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Clinical examination

• Height, joints

• Blood pressure (lying, standing), pulse

• Cranial nerves

• General neurological examination

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Clinical examination

• Height, joints

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Clinical examination

• Height, joints

• Blood pressure (lying, standing), pulse

• Cranial nerves

• General neurological examination

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Investigations

• From ED?

– WCC, CK, FBC, Biochemistry

• 12 lead ECG

• (echocardiography)

• Blood testing

• EEG

• Neuro-imaging

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EEG abnormalities

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Patients seen

• Epileptic seizure

• Syncope

– Vaso-vagal

– cardiogenic

• Psychological (“non-epileptic”)

• Other

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Syncope

• 25% first seizure clinics…

• The “new diagnoses”

– PoTS

– Hyper-mobile joints

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Implications

• Driving

• Freedom Pass

• Holidays

• Diving

• Flying

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Conclusion

• Faints fits and funny turns

• Cardiology trumps neurology

• Coping with diagnostic uncertainty


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