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FEW SURPRISES IN ETHICS BILL DISCLOSURE See Page 3 TWO FACES OF POLITICS IN SPRINGFIELD THIS WEEKEND--Presidential hopefuls Edmund Muskie and George McGovernare captured simultaneously as they spoke i n Springfield. SPECTRUM s t a f f photographer B i 11 Wal drnire put the two together, effectively capturing the flavor of national politics in the Capital City. Muskie spoke to a rally at the old Capitol Friday afternoon, while McGovern addressed a gathering a t a local union hall Sunday Night. LLCC Bargaining Begi-ns Again See page 3 CPS Interviews See Dr. S~OC k page 4
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FEW SURPRISES IN ETHICS BILL DISCLOSURE

See Page 3

TWO FACES OF POLITICS IN SPRINGFIELD THIS WEEKEND--Presidential hopefuls Edmund Muskie and George McGovernare captured simultaneously as they spoke i n Spr ingf ie ld. SPECTRUM s t a f f photographer B i 11 Wal drnire pu t the two together, e f f e c t i v e l y captur ing the f l a v o r o f nat iona l p o l i t i c s i n the Capi ta l City. Muskie spoke t o a r a l l y a t the o l d Capi to l Fr iday afternoon, whi le McGovern addressed a gathering a t a l oca l union h a l l Sunday Night.

LLCC Bargaining Begi-ns Again See page 3

CPS Interviews See

Dr. S ~ O C k page 4

PAGE TWO -----.UIIDIIIU

THE BPEOTRUW M R C H 21, 1972

SPEmRUM OF OPINION

Governor's State Pa~e r Independent Like ~p6ctn

GSU STUDENTS TO HAVE SPECTRUM-LIKE PAPER "The f i r s t e d i t i o n o f an independent stu-

dent newspaper has been received by students a t new Governor's State Univers i ty . I t i s hoped adver t i sirlg w i 1 1 support the paper. "

"With an abundance o f p ictures, the INNO- VATOR volume I number 1, i n fou r p a g e s f -9

t a b l o i d s i ze repor ts news o f the f i r s t 111- i n o i s s ta te u n i v e r s i t y i n Chicagoland. I '

So goes the press release, sent from o f - f i ces of The Innovator on GSU s ta t ionery & GSU p u b l i c in format ion off ice. It seems t h a t the o ther new s t a t e u n i v e r s i t y w i l l inform i t s students exac t l y l i k e SSU, by an independent student newspaper.

We of the Spectrum t a 1 ked t o the GSU dean of students when he toured SSU, and gave a couple of issues of ou r paper t o him. Think o f our surpr ise-and d e l i g h t when we found t h a t GSU would have a S ectrum l i k e paper.

We wish The Innovator %r- goo fortune, and hope they have a smoother road than we d i d the f i r s t years. Publ ishing a student news- paper dependent e n t i r e l y upon adver t is ing i s a d i f f i c u l t task, even w i t h the complete support of the administrat ion, something we have n o t always had.

It i s good t h a t GSU i s support ing t h i s i n - dependent newspaper, w i t h p u b l i c i t y i f no-- th ing else. SSU has never mentioned i n pub- 1 i c i t y releases, i t s innovat ive student press, even though the dec is ion no t t o fund a student paper was an u n i l a t e r i a l admin- i s t r a t i o n decision, and facu l ty , students and s t a f f a1 i k e demand serv ice from an i n - dependent paper.

We sa lu te The Innovator, our s i s t e r news- paper a t SSU's s i s t e r school, and hope t h a t competition, l ack o f support from Chicago- land, and admin is t ra t ion displeasure over cont rovers ia l issues, w i l l n o t deter these e f f o r t s from successful completion.

We f e e l t h a t independent newspapers on campus are the wave o f the future; we feel good t h a t another innovat ive student body has fo l lowed our lead.

vice on A D vising By Stan Sokolik

This i s my f i r s t e f f o r t i n many years t o use the columns of a newspaper t o comnuni- ca te w i t h others. I am p a r t i c u l a r l y pleas- ed t h a t i t i s the matter o f student advis- i n g which i s t o be my focus. I n my opinion, the SPECTRUM i s performing a very worth- wh i le serv ice for SSU's students by pro- v i d i n g space where t h e i r concerns and ques- t i o n s about the advis ing process can be confronted. I hope you w i l l l i k e what emerges--your prov id ing me w i t h questions and requests f o r assistance w i l l show the value o f t h i s column. So, l e t me hear from you. Jus t send your questions t o SPECTRUM, c /o Assembly Off ice, Room 19 i n Student Services Eui ld ing. I f I d o n ' t have the answer, 1'11 make every e f f o r t t o ge t i t from the responsible par t ies .

WHY SHOULD I SELECT AN ADVISER? Every SSU student needs an adviser. Not on ly i s i t mr p l i c y t o requ i re the involvement of a f a c u l t y adL ' f ce 5,n our students ' academic planning and degree c w t d f i c a t i o n , but i t was Sangamon S ta te ' s e a r l y phi losophical commitment t o help students t o develop t h e i r own educational programs r e l a t i v e l y f r e e o f general ly-prescribed requirements. The o f f e r i n g o f substant ia l advis ing sup- p o r t was f e l t t o be the way i n which t h i s comni tment could be best rea l i zed . This advis ing support was t o be provided by mem- bers o f the f a c u l t y themselves and t h e i r assignments r e f l e c t t h i s po l icy .

To f u r t h e r assure the s i g n i f i c a n t ad@-

"First, yuh goth git its attenti0n.p

ROCK& SPRIflGF IELD

MDIO Doug Lane

RRDK) RnFILYZED

A t times i n the past few months I have sa id t o myself "What am I doing w r i t i n g a column f o r a newspaper?" And, no doubt, those o f you who read t h i s th ing w i l l ask yourselves the same question. To t e l l you the t ru th , I don ' t r e a l l y know. The answer l i e s somewhere between my urge t o g e t back i n t o the rad io scene i n Springfield, and a personal des i re t o continue t o g i ve you,the reader, the s t r a i g h t informat ion on what should be a very important face t of your l i f e , the media. Unfortunately, i n Spring- f i e l d , r a d i o 6s no t a very important f a c e t o f many people's 1 ives. There are no con- t rove rs ia l issues discussed, no debates ai red, no inves t iga t i ve repor t i ng occur i ng, no competition(except fo r sales), the l i s t i s endless. Anyone i n management reading t h i s r e a l i z e s t h a t I am crazy f o r discount- i n g sales as an issue, bu t I pre fe r not t o as I have opened my attache case a f t e r s i x months and found an e n t i r e stack o f sales- men's promo mater ia l bearing the t i t l e "WHAT CAN WVEM DO FOR YOU?"

A t t h i s p o i n t i n the column, i t i s t ime

i n g re la t i onsh ip between the student and his/her adviser, no facu l t y member i s i m - posed upon the student. The student i s l e f t free t o choose any member o f the fac- u l t y , j u s t as long as he/she f e e l s t h a t the f a c u l t y m e m b e r w i l l b e a b l e t o b u i l d the k ind o f re la t i onsh ip he/she desires and the f a c u l t y member i s w i l l i n g t o inform himself/hersel f about the program(s) of i n - t e r e s t t o the student so as t o be able t o render e f f e c t i v e advice.

I n short, then, unless you se lec t an ad- v iser , you won' t have one. You ' l l r i s k l os ing some major r i g h t s i n exer t ing con- t r o l over your academic program. This w i l l be t r u e as long as you-postpone se lec t ion o f a "permanent" adviser. I n asking a mem- ber o f the f a c u l t y t o . serve as your adviser you thus may wel l be tak ing the most. i m - po r tan t step(short o f your o r i g i n a l dec i - s ion t o come t o SSU) i n r e a l i z i n g the f u l l benef i ts o f our unique educational s t y l e . And, y o u ' l l be foregoing a measure o f i n - s t i t u t i o n a l p ro tec t ion i n whatever you do. HOW DO I GO ABOUT SELECTING AN ADVISER?With the burden f o r es tab l ish ing an advising, re - l a t i o n s h i p essen t ia l l y upon the student, there i s no one r i g h t way t o go about t h i s important step. Some students f i n d it best t o engage t h e i r present teachers i n conver- sa t ion about the advis ing process and, if one o r more exh ib i t s some i n t e r e s t i n going fu r the r . the choice i s made on the basis of

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t o examine the programming of fered i n Spr ingf ie ld(a rad io l o g w i l l appear l a t e r i n the a r t i c l e ) . We have everybody except WTAX l4 WFMB p lay ing bas ica l l y the same thing, some w i t h a d i f f e r e n t tw is t . I n fact, if you look c lose ly enough, some of your "modern country" heard on WFMB i s a bleed- over from MOR stat ions. WCVS and WDBR p lay bubblegum(top 40 i s the rad io term), a l - though WDBR i s a b i t heavier and s t i c k s by i t s "Sol i d Gold" name. Chicken rock(up-tem- po MOR) can be.$eard on WMAY. WFMB i s p lay- i n g "modern" country music. WTAX i s i n t o a f a i r l y decent a d u l t bag and WVEM i s n ' t q u i t e sure which way t o go from day t o day, l e t alone t r y t o develop a program pat tern . WVEM i s now p lay ing MOR music, somewhere between WMAY and WTAX. It recen t l y dropped i t s progressive rock show, the on ly one i n the c i t y p lay ing a v a r i e t y o f album cuts. This br ings us to. another point , why am I always b i t ch ing about r o c k ? I t l s no t because I have long h a i r o r t h i n k l i b e r a l ( I know fo r a fac t t h a t t h a t ' s no t t rue) o r know other longhairs. I t ' s because I love mu-

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1971-72 SPECTRUM STAFF & EDITORS ............................... PUBLISHER... JOHN' R . ARMSTRONG' ........................ MANAGING EDITOR.. JOHN C. SCATTERGOOD .............................. SPORTS EDITOR.. . . I J . LIONTS ................................ EXECUTIVE EDITOR PHIL BRADLEY ................................ BUSINESS MANAGER... .RON KING ................................... PHOTO CHIEF. STEVE MEYER ............... .............. MAKEUP EDITOR.. *.. D O G LANE ............................. ADVERTISING DIRECTOR TERRY LUTES CIRCULATION MANAGE^ ----- -d ---------------- -----BOB PRIESTER

C T A F F

KEN CHIN LIZ FRAZER .IFRRY STORM

O~ MICHELLE SHAFFER DAVE LllTRELL RICHARD DAMASHEK

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MARCH 21, 1972 PAGE THREE

THE 8PECTRUM

Ethics Bill -Brings Many Disclosures

POLITICAL

FOOTBALL!?

by I r a Teinowi t z (STATE) Even w i t h the scandal s surrounding Paul Powell and s ta te race tracks i t took months f o r the l eg i s l a t u re t o pass any eth ics b i 11 .

But now t h a t there i s a new law, economic i n t e res t statements are being f i l e d wel l i n advance o f the Ju ly 1 deadline.

A check o f the statements submitted t o Secretary o f State John W. Lewis' of f ice showed only four statements f i l e d as o f March 2 but 29 f i l e d as of March 7.

John Hofferkamp, d i rec to r of the o f f ice 's e th ics d iv is ion, was asked i C he was get- t i n g many c a l l s from people confused about what t o pu t i n t h e i r statement. "Only every f i v e minutes," he repl ied.

The Secretary o f State receives d isc lo- sure statements from candidates for s ta te o f f ices, s ta te o f f i c e holders who must be confirmed by the State Senate and s ta te o f f i c i a l s earning over $20,000.

Local o f f i c i a l s a lso have t o f i l e bu t t h e i r f i l i n g i s made w i t h the county c lerk.

Hofferkamp was scheduled t o open the fi 1 - ing March 1 a f t e r special forms had been p r i n t ed up. Two Representatives who had a hand i n w r i t i n g the b i l l , though, jumped the gun and used the b i l l as a model for t h a t o f a sample o f 15 satements, most preparing t h e i r own forms. questions were answered w i t h the word "none"

Rep. Bradley M. Glass, R.-Northfield,fil- and i n most cases a l l t h a t the statement ed h i s Jan. 28 and Rep. Lynne G. Brenne, disclosed was t ha t the l e g i s l a t o r had ano- R-Park Forest, f i l e d h i s Feb. 23. ther job and who with.

A f t e r March 1, the statements have come Char1 es T. Kerschner, ass is tant d i r ec to r i n fast . o f the Board o f Higher Edl~cation, for i n -

Though there Was considerable debate On stance 1 istd his t i t l e then said he waz e th ics b i l l s and one l e g i s l a t e r & i d d l s - not earning money from anyone doing busi- c losure statements would make "economic ness w i th the state, was not i n any pro- eunuchs' of pub l i c o f f ic ia ls , the state- fessional organization which paid him and ments tend t o disprove that. I t was found was no t employed by any other government.

Faculty Association president Father Gus Frank l in t o l d SPECTRUM Monday t ha t the fac- u l t y negot iat ing team has f i n a l l y been se l - ected and w i l l attempt t o meet w i th a team

M

appointed by the College Board possibly by

Begins Anew- the During end o f a qeneral the week. facu l tv-wide b a l l o t t ha t

(LLCC, . f i e much delayed and oftentimes b i t t e r negotiat ions between the Lincoln Land Comnunity College facu l ty and t h a t

LLCC Bargaining c o l l ege's administrat ion w i l l apparently be ge t t ing underway once again.. . . . .nearly a month late.

- - - - . - ended l a s t week, the facui ty selected E l i

Hemenway, 'George- Perry, phi1 Kel 1 e r ,Marcel Pacautte and Marjor ie VanderSheer t o the f acu l t y bargaining team.

Ea r l i e r i n the year the col leqe Board re- fused a request from both the f acu l t y asso- c i a t i o n and the smaller Teacher's Feder-

bargaining agent for the facu l ty . Subseque- n t l y a. general f acu l t y meeting voted t o place the bargaining team under the Assoc- ia t ion.

"The f i r s t th ing ( tha t the team) w i l l a t - 4

Patton d i d the same except t h a t he l i s t e d the U.S. Army under other government agen- c ies t h a t employed him.

Leg is la t i ve candidates read s im i la r l y . Brenne said he owned United A i r l i n e s stock and worked fo r United. Hol loway said he was employed by Egyptian E l e c t r i c Coopera- t i v e Association and Kipley, on h i s o f f i - c i a l statement said he was employed by I n - terlake, Inc. as ass is tant treasurer.

There were some statements though t h a t were more extensive. Sen. Charles Chew, Jr., D-Chicago, sa id he owned 20% of a carry-out r i b s restaurant and a lso received $8,000 as an employee o f the Cook County s h e r i f f ' s o f f i ce .

Glass said he was a partner i n a law firm, owned stock i n a Nor th f ie ld bank, i n Ameri- can Telephone and Telegraph, i n a mutual fund and said he was employed by the c i t i e s o f Palat ine and Northf ie ld.

I n many instances, candidates reported more than they had to. Chew, f o r instance, d i d not have t o l i s t the amount of h i s earning from Cook County o r the percent ownership i n the restaurant. Kipley en- closed a statement o f ne t worth showing assets o f $63,100 and l i a b i l i t i e s o f $4840.

Hofferkamp says he expects t o see income tax returns enclosed w i t h many o f the e th ics statements. A t the moment, he said, people who c a l l are confused about j u s t what they need t o submit. "They on ly want you t o t e l l them something i s no t necessary. I ' m no t going t o do that."

Two candidates who could be confused are B laz ier and Eiker. According t o t h e i r statsments, they d i d not receive $1,200 from any business i n I l l i n o i s i n the past year.

tempt t o t% i s secure recogni t ion (for the association) said Father Frankl in . "I don' t know what w i l l happen" i f recog-

n i t i o n i s refused", he said. "If no group i s regognized then techn ica l l y you can ' t have negotiat ions ."

The Association d i d have bargaining re - cogni t ion from the col lege f o r a time l a s t year tha t was withdrawn when negotiat ions deadlocked on non-salary professional stan- dards. To break the deadlock the col lege threatened t o dismiss any member o f the fac- u l t y not signing the cont ract being offered by the college.

Thus f a r the col lege i s again re fus ing t o c a l l the current round of bargaining, "ne- got ia t ions" and i s cur rent ly viewing t h e facu l ty team as being techn ica l l y from the general faculty. Elect ions f o r the team, conducted a t the Board's d i rect ion, w e r e he1 d by the facu l ty counci 1.

"80 per cent of the facu l ty t h a t returned our questionaire, 103 ou t of about 112,said they dg f i n i t e l y wanted negotiat ions and no t simply 'discussions." Frankl i n said. "That impl ies a l k g a l l y recognized group reaching an agreement binding on both part ies."

Ue have the read d the computer here, ‘\ I Spencer Limits Assembly,

Ignored By ~ounaii (SSU) Though agreements governing the oper- a t ion o f Sangamon State Univers i ty g i v e po l i c y making powers t o the Univers i ty As- sembly governance system, Univers i ty Pres- ident Robert Spencer has handed down an ed i c t apparently s t r ipp ing the Council on Academic A f f a i r s o f i t s program comnittees and policy-making r o l e i n formulat ing aca- demic po l icy .

However, a meeting o f program comni t t e e charimen ca l led by Council Chairman has de- cided t o simply ignore the President since h i s actions were "so obviously" ou t of s tep w i t h the governance document approved by the Univers i ty 's governing board o f Regents.

The e d i c t from the President appeared i n the i r regular ly-pub1 ished "admini s t r a t i on Bu l l e t i n " on the l a s t days o f classes l a s t week. The un i ve r s i t y i s now on a one week holiday.

Concern i s now being expressed t h a t the apparent admini s t r a t i on "ursurpation" o f power could destroy what remains o f the Univers i ty I s innovative atmosphere.

PAGE FOUR

Dr. Benlamin Spock:

CPS INTERVIEW WITH DR. BENJAMIN SPOCK

[College Press Service conducted a two hour interview with Dr. Benjamin Spock during his recent campaign visit to Dcnm. Dr. Spock, world-renowned pediatrician, author of child care books (including Baby and Child Cme, which outsold.every other book ever written with the lone exception of the Bible), and long-time antiwar activist, is now running for the Presidency on the People's Party ticket. The People's Party, formed last fall, is a coalition of leftist political groups which believe that there i s no real difference between the ~ e k c r a t i c and Re~ublian parties.]

CPS: In 1967 you said "Since carrying signs has not halted the monstrous war in Vitnam, people are entirely justified in moving to civil disobediance." In 1969 at Columbia you echoed that by saying: "Since faculty and students have spent two years trying to get things done through legal channels, they now.. have the right to stage sit-ins." You felt that rifling the president's desk and smoking his cigars was somewhat . . . *K: Yes, dubious. ..

CPS: .,,. .dubious and you haw been quoted as saying you respect the w e r m e n ' s courage, but not their tactics. What criteria do you use to draw the line in your philosophy? What is moral? SPOCK: I was brought up a naturally law-abiding person. I t was only reluctantly that I moved into another position. I t seemed so clear to me that the war kept being escalated and the governmenl refused to heed or even answer the protests of the protestors. The war got more and more illegal and immoral in the way it was being fought. What are you meant to do after polite protest? You have to dramatize the issue and get it to the people in order to win converts to your side and to apply pressure on the government. Obviously this is not justified morally i f you're a criminal and are up to criminal pursuits. But i f you believe that the government is criminal and that in a democratic country you've got to apply pressure, it seems to me the logic says you've got to keep on trying. The principle of democracy doesn't say try only at election time every four years and then subside for another Tow years. You've got to keep on applying pressure. Civil disobediance is very effective if i t3 designed right. E would always want to be fairly sure that even in a civil disobediance it would be carried out in a way that vyould enlist the sympathy of a majority of the people w b heard about it, othawise you're failing your cause and alienating people. You can't'tell ahead of time how a demonstration is going to end up or in the long run what will alienate and what won't. When I heard of the ~e r r i i n ' s first pouring duck's blood and later burning up draft records I thought, "oh no, you can't go in to government buildings and destroy government property." In the law-abiding way that I grew up this seemed beyond the pale. I thought "It will alienate ten times as many people at least as i t will win over." I think there I was entirely wrong. The very fact that these were Catholic priests who felt so strongly about the immorality of the war, that they felt driven to what would normally be considered a very illegal and criminal act, had a profound effect on Catholics and Protestants. But the very daringness of the civil disobediance was what attracted a lot of attention and got a lot of people thinking, Obviously I don't feel as I and other civil disobediant people have been accused of doing, that anybody has a right to choose what he will obey and what he won't. I feel justified in breaking a law in a symbolic civil disobediant form. I have to feel the right is on my side. I never claimed the right to pick and choose, I say when clearly the government won't listen, then you're morally justified in going on. It's the government that's evjl

Now, about violence, which is another part of the question. I had learned during the years of the escalation of the war that it was the violence of the government in Vietnam, the violence of M&or Daley's police, the violence of the U.S. Marshalls on3he march on the Pentagon, in the fall of '67, the violence of the police called in by the adminiswations of Columbia and Harvard, for instance, who beat students* after they got.- them out of the .buildinn : r : this visle~a@ C I ~ ~ ~ ~ F I V RFHMR; ~~IIIARS ~f ~ w p l a BVW a ~ t a auf ride? Therefore I would say one first practical rule i s don't use violence because i t tends to build up sympathy for the people who are the victims of the vhlen~e. My feeling ahout violence is relative. I t

THE 8PECTflUM

"You have to dramatize the issue and get it to the people in order to win converts to your side and to

apply pressure to the government." aepends on how mrrch violence is uwd against you. i f the Pregdent wcrc to suspend the Constitution, and dismiss Congress, and begin throwing all rddicals and liberals into concentration camps, I iould feel that was iustification to join the guerrillas right away. O* has to feel out the situation as one goes along and take lhe'least disobediant, the least violcnt action cvery time. But you must be willing to admit thal i f you are really cericmr about your cause and serious about your belief .hat the government is wrong, then you are going to have to go at k a s t to civil disobedidnce. CPS: You say "If you feel war is tmmoral then you're under moral obligation to have no part of it." Ye t, "if a young man feels he is right, the only way to test his theory is ihrough the courts." Do you s111l feel tile courts have legitimacy? Do you believe, like the Bcrrigans. that since the cortrts are corrupt there k no moral obligation to submit to thgm? SPOCK: Oh, yes, I think they have legitimacy and I think the theory of our courts is good, though I think they're full of corruption and they often fail to carry out justice in the spirit that they were designed to maintain. My most serious criticism of the courts is that they're clearly designed to afford justice to only well-to-do people who are arrested. My tr ial cost $80,000. Fortunately I had a lot of friends and supporters who put up 60 of those thousands, so I only had to pay 20. Our trial went on for 30 days and I had six lawyers. This is one of the reasons why the expense was so great. They weren't sitting around lazily. They were always in Boston by 8 o'clock in the morning and usually worked until 11 or 12 o'clock at night going over the court record, weing where the opportunities were to challenge the government's caw. When I read in the paper that somebody gets convicted in a day, or a day-and-a-tialf, I know now that they received no defense. That isn't a defense. A defense is wrangling all the way, because al l the advantages are on the side of the government. The iudge lends to believe the prowcutor or to believe the police. You havc to have a fairly airkight case.

I think that the theory of courts is fine: trial by jury and a whole hierarchy of courts to which you can appeal. but clearly we've got to amend that by having good legal scrvices available to all people irrespective of their income. CPS: Dr. Norman Vincent Peale is probably one of your greatest critics. He claims that your book Baby atrd C7tiId Care is almost solely responsible for the revolution of today and the rebelliousness of youth because of permissiveness but you are against permissiveness and you're against instaat gratification in that book. Could you cxplain why he feels this way? SPOCK: My only explanation is that he dislikes me and he dislikes youth since there is some connection between them. The wcwds that he used were that youth are undisciplined and disorganized because I told their mothers when they were babies to give them instant gratification. Well, anybody who's read Baby and Chi& Opre knows that there's not ever a slightest mention of instant gratification or anything that could be interpreted this way. CPS: You did ask for less rigidity, though. SPOCK: Yes, I was writing the book at a historical period when pediatric advice to mothers was to be extremely rigid and 1 was convinced that that was not only unnecessary but harmful, lo that the book, eipecially in the first edition, argued strongly against rigidity, but I don't think that's permissiveness. Peale was the first person to take this line and i t was interesting to me that immediately hundreds of editorial writers and newspaper cornmentatws took it

cvcn thc gcsturcs. Frcud cmphasizcd tliat lovc is ivhal ttocs it. It's ' thc parcnt's love for thc child tlint ctigc~idcrs a loving devotion on thc part of t l~c child. Tlic child thcrcforc w;irits to ac:l likr thc parcrits and wants to he likcd .inti ,~dnii~ctl I>y tlic p.ircrit. 'I his i s Ilic positive I'orcu. john Dcwcy dtid othcr progressive cduc,~lo~ s .;,lid you don't haw to forcc cliildrcn ta Icdr.11, a l l you hdve to do i s I'i~id out what iiii1dr.cn ;ire 11.1.urnI1y fdscinatcd will1 at cvcry .~gc pcriod arid havc ;hcsc'materials av.iilablc .i~nd childrcn will do most of tlrc work. I think tiiat this rclicvcd conscientious pqrcnts of thc fccling that thcy ilad to keep prcssing and intimidating thcir childrcn. Thry w$rc able to relax. They have trust in thrir childrcn.

The part that 1. played was hclping to popirlarizc l11c ideas of Frcud and the progrcssivc educators. This i s thc idcologic,il structure in Baby arzd Child a r e . It's not in Freudian languagc but i t 's purr, if simple, Freudian and progress_ive.cducational doctrines. In this very indirect sense 1 think'pcale and Agncw.arc right in saying tha4 now young people can't bc intimidated. Thcy come to thcir own conclusions.. . and thcy have -the couragc of thc convictions that they come to . . . because they're unuc. Y ! to hcing intimidated. In a sense by being a retailer of Frcud anti irc*cy I'm partly rcsponsiblc for that. .

CTS: How do we get, IIC,.,,, realize. with t l ic wiridi~ig down ol' i i ; ~ war. r l l ; i t we arc] s t i l l suyjwwting corr!tpt rcgimcs'? Ilow do we

'cr:!rivatc I l ia1 fccling'! SPOCK: You mcm how do we-make thc Amrriqn pcoplc get marc o i a rcvulsic>~i ;igainst tlic war? 11's alwdys ;In uphill I)at t 11- to ~nnkc fcilow citilcns awarc of' inj.u\ticcs which, in a democracy, Ilicy'rc p.crtly responsible :or. This has to hc takcn 'vcry rcalisticillly into xzount AS wc try .o improve our socicty. Pcoplc, by nature, cvcn i i .2 most conscientious ones, try, 10,kccp hlindcrs on thcmsclvcs and tvoid becoming awarc of injustices. Many pcoplc havc said thcrc should bc .;r,orc books about.thc. war in Victnam so pcoplc will Ician about .wiiat'.a vicious war it k:.t:ltaue a whok bo~kshclf full.of books about .the war in Vietnam and L wrote une myself. Thc problem is not that there aren't enougb'bwks;-it's that the pcoplc who wcrcn't already opposed to the war didn't want to become opposed to thc war. They sensed, especially in.the carly days, that thcyld.bccorhc part of this unpopular minority and they would fccl uncomfortdblc so they kept their blinders on. .It's thc game reason why up to 1954 even the most conscientious white people made no.prolcst against inj,us$& to black people.. .obviously a vcry successful blinding of thcmGlves. In other words; :the reason we havc injusticc i s not bccausq most people.are unjust or. crucl, but becausc we havc this protectivc mechanism of denying the injusticcs unless they're b:ought,hi,n?c ..-, ss. I think what wc saw in thc war in Vietn.lm was ih i t wc iiad io ..sc various means to hrcak thrclugh this dcni,~l. Onc G: L.ie t:';iwgs"h,:. would bc donc would be a fcw handfuls of ::;dcats goirig and sitting in, blocking thc hallway in a univcrsity where the Dow Chemical mruitcr was on. cdmpus. Ilicnl:hc universityauliiotitics, panicking, would w l l in thc policc. Thc policc would coqc and club the studcnts atid thcn ten Ihorrwnd othcr siudents who w$c lrying to deny the whole injusticc of Victn;im and napalm suddcnl'y couldn't .deny it a-ny longer. It's a l~orrihlc thing to scc pcoplc being bcatcn by the policc, yrlur own classmates having their sitt i l ls cracked, but it Lakcs this lo break Ihrougli llic denial. This is one of the points of dcnronstrations; I t ii, ntic lnislit say, 10 Icrnpt 1110 authoril~cs la: show dur i r l ~ thu dutnorlslt,~Iio~l, tho same kind of brutality that thcy'rc carrying nut somcwh~vc clsc thrlt

up with enthusiasm. Spiro Agnew had thd &st fun witk it. I guess you're protesting against. This is what happcnccl at Columbia, this is I've come around gradually t o a politician's feeling @t i f trying to advance .a cause. i t doesn't matter too much what people say about you as long: as they keep saying somethink I f it's people who are generally despised wlw aresriticizing you, thisis helping the cause. All I have to do is refer to Spiro .Agnew or his boss, Nixon, in any public speech when I see the audience p ing to sleep and it

- immediately gets a response and I feel a little ashamed . . . it's like taking candy from babies to get an audience to sneer at Agnew or Nixon.

The people who say that I'm respohsible for modern youth exagynte my @W, Thou h I must u I'm faltterd te be given IRI w d i t fa^ havim pro&& what boala utW dlso~ganlnd, undisciplined youths, which obviouslv are the same ones that I . . . w. w b l i c - s a i r w t h s I think that there

-011 l>clwcen l!lr \hill in child carr 111 Ill? 1,lst tiiirty ycars 'ind t ~ l c i!~.tn~cd at r itudr\ ol young pcoplc. I iir cli.ltigc in pliilosopiiv ih prim'lriiy advicc to pdrcnls that i t isn't ncccss.lry to i,iiimidatc ctii idi~n io [)ring thcm up lo hc wcil-disciplined. I t w;is rc.~lly auumcd In nwny periods in thc past in mntiy p.~rts of thc worli th;ii children arc born bi~rilaric and tIi.11 it's only Ily uc:cmittitig i~itirnid'~tion, not nccess~~rily blows, but scoltlingc and, warnings, t h ~ t this is wliat civilizes tljcm. 11 was Trcttcl. pair[ ic~~l , t r l~ , Al.rdamc Montessori and thc Amcrican progrcssivc rdt~c,~torc.who, bv observing children; L ~ ~ I C to thc Ctlnclurion:. isn't prc:\,l~rc 0; intinlidation that makcs clii ldrn~ n\dtljrc, it's mainly lh,ll chiltlt.cn Dr. pock t a l k s with Joe A r n o l d ( f o r e g r o u n t l ~ , want to become grown-up and re\ponsiblc. I f you watch childl.cn D i r e c t o r o f t h e Denver H i p He lp Center, on You see thcy'rc cop~irig adult behaviour a11 thc timc . . . copying campaign tou.. t h rough t h e West. (photo above)

w[l,lt h;ll>prncd ;,I [Iarvilrd, whrrf ~~:ll(lllPnly I t i c v / iV l~e 1.lnivc:5ity, inl;llldiilg ; h r fdculty, came over II,~ w r r y vi~:~ro;j\ support 0: '!he sludcnt\ 01 S[)SDs prnir~t of gclti~lj; nd of Kcscarvc : l : i i ~ r r r:ninir~g. . T17,1t was tli;. i i . ' .: isure wit11 ~ h c \tudkmls and ihcy vtcrc makin;: no progress wiiil \iudcnts or fdculty t~r,fl,il thcy occ~:pit.rl A boild:ri,<,' wcrc oripin.tily c;. .:ggcd tithlcd ihc atid propowl Ilciltcn III on lhc lhxr $ids camp \ ! t i p . :,. 1%. ; 'r,nl t :C (ALU;I:/ the f . r ~ u ; t y h d

potcst .!;;.iin\t ROT(;. S~rJdr~ily t!,tr 1,arulty 0, A::; ~r,d Scicnces (,vcrw)iclmingIy th,ll RGlC mlrst go. A brilii,~n! ~ n d ginring

cxdmplc of lhc succcss of a dr.m~~r:\lr,rlir,n. rhr faculty utddcnly rrcoglii/rd wh,~t thc ;Irmy was cloing irr Victn.tm. 'Thcy said yes, a univcrsity should 1101 bc tc,t~liinp, militarism as p11rt of the curriculum. Alltiwar dc~nrinstr.~tions h.ivc (11 coriiinlrc to go on and ~h.~t ' \ why g~rcrrill;~ thc.ltrc is ilnothrr rnrlrc vivid wdy of hringing this homc lo pcoplc: thc shricks 01 Ihc actors who ,~rc portraying Victnamcw wlio arc st ill hcirig bonihcd hy Amcrica. 7 ho~~gh pcc~pre do cv,idc ;111d procrast iri,ltc in rrc ognifirig things, b.irk in thc brgin"illR of llic csc.~l,~i i~~n O K Ihc w.ir not morc 1h.1~ 15% of thc Amrric;rti ~>coplc tlioi~glit i t w.t\ wirlrig, now 75% of l l i c Arncric'ln pcoplc t l i i~ih i t i\ wrorig. Ill \pile 01 1 1 1 4 . hoi~tt;uirik.in~ I~~'f~rc\idcnts a l l long the way, tryill): 10 ~ni\lr.itl tl~c~tn. Wo.:.ri onc Ic~llowcti I;IC

pl~blic opiliion pnlls a l l througli ~ h c I~~lirison csc,il.~lion nnc s i~w th.:t cvcry timc Johnson did 'lnything rid Ioltl thc Amcrican pcoplc anothcr untruth, the wavc-of supporl f o r hitn immcdidtcly went up. BI;! ovcr tho 4 ycar prriod, i t was down, down, dlbwn.

i his'is wh;11 I tic,pc thc Arncrican proplc wili C ' I ~ C ~ on to by ncxt Nowmbcr. That tlioi~gh the troops drc. Ron:, liw hombing is going on. Wc st i l l hnvc thr war. Part ( i f t h i s mils1 ,bc contini~cd dcmonttrations by pccple who arc oppowd. Olhcrwise thc Amcrican people will bc lullctl into morc cvnsitrn, which of courw is what Nixon i s tryitil; to dcl with his withtJt.iw,~l of thc troops. CPS: Some people have cliargcd tIii11 llic contiriti;~li~~n of the war is. conrlcctcd will1 tlic virility prohlciiis of our Prcsidcrits. SPOCI<: I think one should not oversimplify ouiragcoucly. Obviously thC causcs and cscalativri of thc war .ire mdnv. Onc can so:.: out sorn,. 01' the morc obvious 1,ivcrs. Eiscr.liowcr~s,tid in '65 the rcdson wc'rc ~i~volvcci supporting thi. rrcrich is bccauw wc want to control thr tin ,ind lt!ngctcn and oihcr v.11uahlc mdrc~i~ls. This is a1 i l ~ c inu'ustrial-impcrialis~ Irvcl. I l c l>crh.ip\ 1h1111ght Iic was bcing r~t l icr sirpcrior ,lnd smart to givc .III .Iri\wcr 111.11 I hey coi~ldn't scc by thcmsclvcs. .l hcti at thc milit,lry 1cvc.l sincl. thc (: i~ir ic\r Communist Kcvoli~tiori voiccs in thc Pcntagon h.~vc said "lhcrc ir our ncxt cnr:ny." Somc of thrm wid "why doli't wc go in hcforc dcclnring war .ind ju\i bomb thcir bcgilining nuclcar ifist.~ll,~tic~rir." Why wait until they havc thcm. Nice cxamplc of arrog~ncc cc . . . national arrogance. T h t is the main justific:,ltion for our involvcmcpt in Victnam from a military point of vicw. Thcrc's dlw. the psychological point$f vicw. No qucstion about it, J o h n ~ n in several ways showcd his great insecurity of values of virility and one of thcm was his statcmrnt just before tic escalated thc war in about january 1965. He wid, prcsentcd with Ihc cvidcncc th*lt thc South Victnamcse govcrnrncnt and thc South Vicln.~mcsc army wgc on tlic point of collapsc the only way that wc could ni,~intdiri OW

position was by tahing ovcr the figlili~ig ourcelvcs. I lc \.lid "I refuse to be the first Prcsidcnt to lose a war.:',ltls intcrcsting.that scvcral ycars latcr Nixon uscd rxactly tkac stmc words. 7 hey Jo~i't ask thc question, "is it a just war," tiicy don't cwn ;l\k i ! l~ practical Guestion "is this war achicving.anything for t l ie UnitcJ Stdtcs." It brcomes immediately .I personal matlcr: "Can I facc myself and will thc Amcrican pcoplc :Jmire mc if I admit wc wcrc .III wrong and that we wcrcn't ,~blc to. lick. this smnll.bdchward nation." There are, answers a1 all thesc Icvcls. Lyndori Lohnron said at one time the scatcst thrill. in hi< life is sccitig Ihc stars and stripcs flying on forcign .soil. I lc was always rclcrri~ig h.ick to thc glorioirs dcfindcrs of thc Ali~mo. Thc drfcndcrs of the Al.inio wcrc pcoplc who wcre trying to rip off somc morc of Mc\ico's I~nd, riglit? Tlicy.jiot caught . in thc act, wcrc surrounrd, .ind thcy wcrc sn slubborn that thcy prcfcrrrd to Jic rathrr Ih,in givc up. CPS: Jolrttson rcsigrircl r;~tl~cr I l i ; i r~ losc tllc war. SPOCK: Th,~t*s riglil. Ohviotrsly from his point of vicw it's noble to try . i;itl nccl~rirr snlnr, r i i c i r v lprritw y I;I)H~ h'leiit.si tirid it'r c u i l i f t h IJ prefr:r 111 diu tdtlior tIi+rr ndriiit ynu'rc wrong.

What wc'vc got lo tlo is I~ring up c'r~r.childrcn' in such a way :ha< they don't lhink of th is kind of scri~imcnt as patriotism. l'hey musk

oeatre tnat in a worm and In a naman marim nuclear arms this attitude i s insanity. CPS: Are we making any real progress or is everything we do futile? SPOCK: I think everything done in opposition to the war, every letter written,-every telegram sent, every person that went to any demonstration, anybody who ran as a peace candidate, anybody who voted for a peace candidate and everybody who wrote a letter to the editor pointing out- the inequities and the insanity of the war in Vietnam - every one of those things did help. It's one of the most distressingly blind and overly pessimistic attitudes to say that nothing did any good. We forced Lyndon Johnson out of office, we and, the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong - they played the largest role, of course. This is no mean feat. And in a way it was unusually bad political ruck that we got instead a Richard Nixon. If .Hubert Humphrey had any guts at all he would have refused to allow johnson to make him run on the same Vietnam policy that forced Johnson out of office. That's the viciousness of Johmon. He decided he had to get Out and that he had to let Hubert run, but he didn't want him to have any advanbge in running so he says "Hubert, you've got to run on eiactly the same platform that destroyed me." That's extraordinary, but even more extraordinary i s that Hubert Humphrey, no longer subordinate to Johnson, obeyed him: This.is the extraordinary submissiveness, the masochism of Hubert Humphrey.

I admit there hasn't been enough progress. However, we are forcing Richard Nixon to withdraw the ground forces. I f wp hadn't had this pessimism and this easy discouragement we would have kept UP much more Pressure than we havc. I think of such things asone in ten of the people b h ~ strongly opposed the war in Vietnam taking tpe occasion once a month to write a letter to the President saying he would never vote for him again if he didn't end the war immediately. The President would get something like 50,000 letters a day. Well, I believe, and I don't see how you could deny it, that this would absolutely terrify Richard Nixon. This would be a flood of mail that would be terrifying to a politician with much more

PAGE-F FIVE co:lrage than Nixon. And yet, people just shrug rheir shouldersand say, "well, I wrote a letter or two once and i t didn't end thc war sd i t shows that letters don't do any good." One thing that distresses me about young people is that although they've got the idealism and they've got the cqurage k k n the pinch comes, they get discouraged at the time I would say b ' v e got. to jack yp your coura--lM1, try harder.

We've got to build a pblitical system that will i w r e we Bon't,get involvkJ in these imperialist ventures again. We must builda-*ty; where people can get their natural gratifications #withaut accumulationof too much anxiety or hostility.

(City) Donald Jackson, operator o t tne Cir- cle '16 Theatre told SPECTRUM Monday that he wi 1 1 be in Court today (Tuesday) . Jackson i s contesting Comni ssioner Joseph P. Knox ' s order to halt construction on the theater a t 521 East Monroe Street.

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(VIRDEN) - John A1 exander, a former ins t ruc - t o r a t L inco ln Land Community College i n Spr ingf ie ld , has announced h i s candidacy f o r t h a t school ' s board o f trustees. Alex- ander, now a Virden businessman, i s 29 years o f age.

He was elected a delegate t o the 1970 I l l i n o i s Const i tu t iona l Convention ans ser- ved on the convention I s education committee.

Alexander, one o f three conventi'on v ice- presidents, eventual l y opposed adoption of the s ta te ' s new cons t i tu t ion , arguing i n p a r t t h a t i t f a i l e d t o es tab l i sh an equi- t ab le tax s t ruc tu re t o support pub l i c schools.

He d i d support the char te r ' s comnittment t o "qua l i t y " education, however, "and now I want t o help implement t h a t idea a t the l oca l level," he said.

"L incoln Land i s a good school now, bu t i t s po ten t ia l i s even better," he stated.

A t L inco ln Land, Alexander was the f i r s t president o f the f a c u l t y associat ion and a facu l ty adviser t o the student government. "Both students and facu l t y , as .wel l as s t a f f , should have a strong voice i n i n s t i - t u t i ona l policy-making," he said.

Alexander attended Monmouth Col lege and the Un ive rs i t y o f I 1 1 i n o i s before teaching p o l i t i c a l science a t Western I l l i n o i s Uni- v e r s i t y and L inco ln Land. Monmouth named him i t s Outstanding Young Alum i n 1970.

Ad,v is ing CONTINUED. from page two the reactions. Others make a determined e f f o r t t o meet w i t h a l l those who teach i n the program(s) i n which they a re in te res ted ~ n d "sound out" these teachers t o the pos- ,i b i l i ty o f t h e i r serving as t h e i r adviser.

d ther r e l y p r i n c i p a l l y on the scu t t l ebu t t of t h e i r f r iends and merely confront the one f a c u l t y member who appears from a1 1 t h a t has been shared w i t h them t o be most 1 i k e l y t o fit the student 's thoughts as t o the r i g h t k ind of adviser.

Students enter ing SSU dur ing the Winter ' 72 Quarter were given the opportuni ty t o take an "easy way" out . They were assign- ed a "temporary" adviser and the search f o r a permanent adviser could ( i f both par- t i e s agree) begin and end w i t h the student 's f i r s t meeting w i t h the assigned facu l t y member.

There i s one b i t o f help which a l l wi th- ou t an adviser can use. Check the Regist- r a r ' s 1 i s t o f the various f a c u l t y members' advisees and focus upon those w i t h the fewest advisees a t the present time.

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Why no t t a l k t o the people who make the decisions about what you hear, t h e i r names and t i t l e s are l i s t e d w i t h each stat ion.Ask them about progressive rock, ask them a- bout soul, ask them about fo re ign language programs. But most importantly, ask them when the "personal i t ies" are going t o be- come persona l i t i es and l i f t the masks off t h e i r faces, o r are we a l l too a f r a i d o f what we might see?

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I WAGONER'S MOTORAMA SPRINGFIELD'S FINEST USED CARS "SOLID GOLD1\MUSIC

6 am Pre-recorded "So l id Gold" music 6 pm -Rich S t y l es (T i l 1 1 am)

I BOB HAMLIN

MANMLR

DICK WAOONER PC~ONE 522-6666 812 SO. 31ST STRE= 522-6767

2 blocks N o f Penny's WFMB-104.5-American Informat ion Network General .Manager-Bi 11 Wheeler 1 s t National Bank Bldg.,Springfield, 62701 528-3033.

COUNTRY MUSIC 6 am Tom Enlow .

12 noon Larry Wil l iams 5 pill Tom Seaton( t i l1 midnight)

FISUMAN~~S SPORTING GOODS CO. Central Illinois Largest and Most Complete Sports Store

WMAY-970-NBC Program D i recor -~ed ' Price/Gen . Manager- Gary Fr ies . 525 West Jef ferson Street, S ~ r i n q f i e l d , 62702. 525-0200. -

MOR MUSIC 5:30 am Farm Programs 6 -am Jim M C K ~ nney

10 am Ted Pr i ce 12 noon Skip Jockel

4 pm J. Mar t inKay 6 pm Lar ry Henthorn

10 pm Wayne Cody(Big Bands-Til l 12:30)

WMTER TUNE-UPS TOWING & CAR STARTS

I 'a friendly place foe friendly people" I I LEONARD'S TAVERN I WTAX-1240-CBS

Program Director-Bruce Bagg/Gen . Manager- She1 by Harbison. 71 2 South 31 s t Street, Spr ingf ie ld, 62708. 522-4441.

I Rt. 4 Thayer, 111. 1

I The Best of Hard Rock & Soul Music I - ADULT MUSIC

5 am Marty Roberts(Country music) 7 am Newsradio Spr ing f ie ld I Entertainment on Wed, Fri & Sat I 8:30 am . Bruce Bagg

11 am Marty Roberts 1 pm Coley Gowan 4 pm Newsradio Spr ing f ie ld 7:30 p~t l Mlrsic ~ n l i m i t e d ( T i l 1 1 am)

Dancing from 10:OO till.2:00

Girls need only be 18

C SCHAEFER'S PHARMACY I

WVEM-101.9-American FM Network Program Director-Ri ck W i 1 1 iams/Gw, Mqr- Dan Menghini. 224 East Jef ferson Street, Sp r i ng f i e l d , 62701 . 528-451 1 .

MOR MUSIC 6 am Rich Dolack 7:30 am Rick Will iams 1 pm Dan Rion 6 pm B.T. Fortune 9 pm Ke i th R i ke r (T i l 1 12 am).

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Angelos Italian Restaurant


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