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Spaced Out Radio - April 21_16 - Canadian UFOlogy with Michel Deschamps_FhUu47bZw6Y - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 11:35:59]

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2300:05:07,649 --> 00:05:14,250but your experience begin right now

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4800:07:01,259 --> 00:07:05,399good evening and welcome to spaced out

4900:07:03,389 --> 00:07:07,529radio tonight I am your host Dave Scott

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10600:09:19,440 --> 00:09:24,510in the skies tonight on space out radio

10700:09:21,779 --> 00:09:26,610tonight we are sticking close to home

10800:09:24,509 --> 00:09:29,159though well for this show at least and

10900:09:26,610 --> 00:09:32,100talking Canadian UF ology with

11000:09:29,159 --> 00:09:34,709investigator Michel de Xiang Michelle

11100:09:32,100 --> 00:09:36,870has been on the Canadian UFO scene for

11200:09:34,710 --> 00:09:39,060well over three decades looking into the

11300:09:36,870 --> 00:09:41,039mysterious and anomalous sightings that

11400:09:39,059 --> 00:09:43,709are happening here around the great


11500:09:41,039 --> 00:09:46,019white north the top three places for

11600:09:43,710 --> 00:09:48,000sightings in Canada are and it's really

11700:09:46,019 --> 00:09:50,519no surprise here the three biggest

11800:09:48,000 --> 00:09:53,340metropolis is in the country Toronto

11900:09:50,519 --> 00:09:54,899Montreal and Vancouver leading the way

12000:09:53,340 --> 00:09:57,649with sightings being reported and

12100:09:54,899 --> 00:10:02,610followed through with accurate reports

12200:09:57,649 --> 00:10:04,919NuForce comm that spelled NO UFO RS comm

12300:10:02,610 --> 00:10:06,570is Michelle's website where he

12400:10:04,919 --> 00:10:09,839investigates both to the history of

12500:10:06,570 --> 00:10:13,260ufology in Canada as well as the current

12600:10:09,840 --> 00:10:16,470and recent sightings as well we bring in

12700:10:13,259 --> 00:10:17,939Michel de Shop now from new force comm

12800:10:16,470 --> 00:10:21,269Michelle thank you so much for joining


12900:10:17,940 --> 00:10:25,560us tonight how are you I'm not too bad

13000:10:21,269 --> 00:10:28,610just a little bit under the weather my

13100:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,809voice my throat but other than that okay

13200:10:28,610 --> 00:10:33,600excellent you know what it's so good to

13300:10:30,809 --> 00:10:36,859have you on the air because we talk a

13400:10:33,600 --> 00:10:41,370lot about UFOs on this show and I'm an

13500:10:36,860 --> 00:10:43,860experiencer as well and in the end this

13600:10:41,370 --> 00:10:46,169is why I started spaced out radio back

13700:10:43,860 --> 00:10:49,769on November 14th to one make that

13800:10:46,169 --> 00:10:51,809November 30th 2014 and I did that

13900:10:49,769 --> 00:10:54,539because I couldn't find the personal

14000:10:51,809 --> 00:10:56,759answers that I was searching for for the

14100:10:54,539 --> 00:10:59,339sightings that I was saying now as we've

14200:10:56,759 --> 00:11:02,340developed this show Michelle a lot of

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00:10:59,340 --> 00:11:04,320our guests and most of our listeners are

14400:11:02,340 --> 00:11:08,310actually south of the border in the

14500:11:04,320 --> 00:11:10,890United States and we hear all the

14600:11:08,309 --> 00:11:13,199American stories from Roswell to what's

14700:11:10,889 --> 00:11:15,289happening at area 51 out at

14800:11:13,200 --> 00:11:19,170wright-patterson Air Force Base in Ohio

14900:11:15,289 --> 00:11:21,419we've heard them all however we're not

15000:11:19,169 --> 00:11:24,360as familiar with what is happening in

15100:11:21,419 --> 00:11:26,429Canada how much of a hot spot is the

15200:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,289country of Canada when it comes to UF

15300:11:26,429 --> 00:11:31,899ology

15400:11:28,289 --> 00:11:38,490well I can only speak for where I'm from

15500:11:31,899 --> 00:11:41,559I live in Sudbury Ontario Canada as far

15600:11:38,490 --> 00:11:44,940as I know considered the nickel capital

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of the world we have two mining giants

15800:11:44,940 --> 00:11:50,020they have changed names since a few

15900:11:47,830 --> 00:11:53,290years now but I still regard them as

16000:11:50,019 --> 00:11:54,639Falconbridge and Inc oh and my dad

16100:11:53,289 --> 00:11:57,039worked for Falconbridge that's how he

16200:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,809came here from northern Quebec in 1968

16300:11:57,039 --> 00:12:02,429of all places that he could have chosen

16400:11:58,809 --> 00:12:07,989to move the family to was a UFO hotspot

16500:12:02,429 --> 00:12:12,459and it was I was four and a half when we

16600:12:07,990 --> 00:12:13,750moved here and years later when I was in

16700:12:12,460 --> 00:12:15,730high school I started collecting

16800:12:13,750 --> 00:12:16,169information I picked a subject out of

16900:12:15,730 --> 00:12:19,090thin air

17000:12:16,169 --> 00:12:23,229I'd like to research something in depth

17100:12:19,090 --> 00:12:26,889and at that time the term flying saucer


17200:12:23,230 --> 00:12:29,920came out project UFO was on the air on

17300:12:26,889 --> 00:12:31,629TV and I said you know what I'm gonna

17400:12:29,919 --> 00:12:34,389look into that but I gotta tell you

17500:12:31,629 --> 00:12:34,750frankly I I bit off more than I could

17600:12:34,389 --> 00:12:39,100chew

17700:12:34,750 --> 00:12:41,919I tell ya I know expectations of what I

17800:12:39,100 --> 00:12:43,960was gonna find in terms of UFOs and

17900:12:41,919 --> 00:12:47,379related matters but boy was I ever

18000:12:43,960 --> 00:12:50,879surprised there are a lot of Canadian

18100:12:47,379 --> 00:12:53,460you apologists around the country and

18200:12:50,879 --> 00:12:56,529whether they're here in Vancouver

18300:12:53,460 --> 00:12:58,360whether they are in Ontario such as

18400:12:56,529 --> 00:13:00,909yourself a couple of famous ones Victor

18500:12:58,360 --> 00:13:04,240V Gianni out of Toronto Grant Cameron


18600:13:00,909 --> 00:13:06,370out of Winnipeg who really has done some

18700:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,230incredible research in regards to

18800:13:06,370 --> 00:13:11,169presidents of the United States and

18900:13:08,230 --> 00:13:14,320their UFO connections it's very

19000:13:11,169 --> 00:13:15,819interesting indeed when you look at our

19100:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,280country and I know you can only speak

19200:13:15,820 --> 00:13:20,560for Ontario but in Canada in general as

19300:13:18,279 --> 00:13:22,750reports have come out recently in

19400:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,939regards to Toronto Vancouver and

19500:13:22,750 --> 00:13:26,710Montreal being three of the hotbeds are

19600:13:24,940 --> 00:13:31,210you surprised that it's our three

19700:13:26,710 --> 00:13:36,910biggest metropolises that are having the

19800:13:31,210 --> 00:13:40,639most sightings recorded I'm not really

19900:13:36,909 --> 00:13:43,039surprised see the misconception was that

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00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:46,970back in the day UFO sightings were made

20100:13:43,039 --> 00:13:49,779in rural areas you know during a two

20200:13:46,970 --> 00:13:53,750second sighting by the the town drunk or

20300:13:49,779 --> 00:13:58,819you know the less regarded people of the

20400:13:53,750 --> 00:14:00,679populace but as it turns out UFOs seem

20500:13:58,820 --> 00:14:03,310to have a high interest in the

20600:14:00,679 --> 00:14:06,169metropolitan areas as well as the small

20700:14:03,309 --> 00:14:08,869hick towns or whatever you know whether

20800:14:06,169 --> 00:14:10,939it's because of the nature Natural

20900:14:08,870 --> 00:14:13,519Resources I mean we have a lot of lakes

21000:14:10,940 --> 00:14:17,410here I've been to Alberta us I've seen

21100:14:13,519 --> 00:14:19,909the Rockies we have beautiful scenery

21200:14:17,409 --> 00:14:21,709whether it's a vacationing spot for them

21300:14:19,909 --> 00:14:24,009I don't know but I've lived in Toronto

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as well and I've also lived in Montreal

21500:14:24,009 --> 00:14:31,100and I can see the attraction I mean if

21600:14:29,179 --> 00:14:34,250you're gonna investigate a planet that

21700:14:31,100 --> 00:14:36,110has life you're gonna look for signs of

21800:14:34,250 --> 00:14:39,259civilization and the first thing you're

21900:14:36,110 --> 00:14:42,590gonna look for is there any large cities

22000:14:39,259 --> 00:14:44,659and what's the population like you know

22100:14:42,590 --> 00:14:45,950what what do they behave like what are

22200:14:44,659 --> 00:14:48,559they like what's what's their

22300:14:45,950 --> 00:14:50,870technological achievements what's their

22400:14:48,559 --> 00:14:56,509weaponization you're gonna look at all

22500:14:50,870 --> 00:14:58,279that so I'm not surprised as we warm up

22600:14:56,509 --> 00:15:00,080in our crowd starts to come into the

22700:14:58,279 --> 00:15:02,990show I would love it if you a kind of

22800:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,060take the time Michelle and explain how


22900:15:02,990 --> 00:15:11,269you got involved with you apology why

23000:15:05,059 --> 00:15:13,399did this become your passion that's a

23100:15:11,269 --> 00:15:15,350question has been asked many times I

23200:15:13,399 --> 00:15:17,870sometimes I don't know if it's a

23300:15:15,350 --> 00:15:21,290sighting that propelled my interest or

23400:15:17,870 --> 00:15:24,919if as something I decided to do at age 9

23500:15:21,289 --> 00:15:27,529that all of a sudden propelled me into a

23600:15:24,919 --> 00:15:32,329world that I had no idea how large I

23700:15:27,529 --> 00:15:36,500actually was and when I had a sighting

23800:15:32,330 --> 00:15:38,629when I was 9 4 years I didn't really

23900:15:36,500 --> 00:15:40,879take as such because I thought maybe was

24000:15:38,629 --> 00:15:43,850something I copied off TV I would have

24100:15:40,879 --> 00:15:45,200seen on TV or something and only years

24200:15:43,850 --> 00:15:48,170later when I moved to Niagara Falls


24300:15:45,200 --> 00:15:51,980Ontario I purchased a book about

24400:15:48,169 --> 00:15:53,579Canadian sightings and in one of the

24500:15:51,980 --> 00:15:56,720chapters was actually about

24600:15:53,580 --> 00:16:00,290Sudbury Ontario and Eastern Townships

24700:15:56,720 --> 00:16:04,139the couple of days in the month of July

24800:16:00,289 --> 00:16:07,2301974 and I could scratch my head that

24900:16:04,139 --> 00:16:11,009says holy shit that's when my my

25000:16:07,230 --> 00:16:12,870brother's birthday is July 13th and at

25100:16:11,009 --> 00:16:14,669that time we used to have a park at the

25200:16:12,870 --> 00:16:17,009end of our street there was a hockey

25300:16:14,669 --> 00:16:19,259rink but in the summer there was a

25400:16:17,009 --> 00:16:21,299two-story building where the teenagers

25500:16:19,259 --> 00:16:23,850would hold their dances on the 2nd floor

25600:16:21,299 --> 00:16:26,219and on the main floor people would send

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25800:16:26,220 --> 00:16:31,080was outside and not inside to think of

25900:16:29,190 --> 00:16:33,510anything I was outside looking at the

26000:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,940sky and that's when I noticed this

26100:16:33,509 --> 00:16:38,970metallic looking sphere that just

26200:16:35,940 --> 00:16:40,920offered above the treeline and I thought

26300:16:38,970 --> 00:16:43,800maybe advertising balloon maybe but it

26400:16:40,919 --> 00:16:47,189wasn't tied down and it was motionless

26500:16:43,799 --> 00:16:49,469and like I said I only only years later

26600:16:47,190 --> 00:16:52,080when I got that book he described having

26700:16:49,470 --> 00:16:54,840all these sightings of these whitish

26800:16:52,080 --> 00:16:58,620bluish spheres that people would see

26900:16:54,840 --> 00:17:00,360these spherical objects but at the same

27000:16:58,620 --> 00:17:03,389time which was not known to the people

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on the ground there was a CP air flight

27200:17:03,389 --> 00:17:08,490that I just left Montreal for Winnipeg

27300:17:05,369 --> 00:17:11,219and right above suddenly at that same

27400:17:08,490 --> 00:17:14,130time above Sudbury it encountered a

27500:17:11,220 --> 00:17:17,640hundred foot diameter disc and it had to

27600:17:14,130 --> 00:17:19,290do two emaze evasive maneuvers in order

27700:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,570to not to collide because that's the

27800:17:19,289 --> 00:17:24,329greatest fear of the pilots the UFOs

27900:17:21,569 --> 00:17:26,220never collide with them normally but

28000:17:24,329 --> 00:17:28,619they have that fear that a that thing

28100:17:26,220 --> 00:17:30,569should not be in our way and apparently

28200:17:28,619 --> 00:17:32,099in that particular flight they made all

28300:17:30,569 --> 00:17:34,679the passengers look out the window and

28400:17:32,099 --> 00:17:37,949they all saw the object so that could

28500:17:34,680 --> 00:17:40,769have been the mothership that that that


28600:17:37,950 --> 00:17:42,360delivered all these smaller spheres that

28700:17:40,769 --> 00:17:44,849people were reporting down below

28800:17:42,359 --> 00:17:47,639that is incredible I've never heard that

28900:17:44,849 --> 00:17:52,379story and see Pierre is a defunct

29000:17:47,640 --> 00:17:56,660airline here in Canada and that when

29100:17:52,380 --> 00:17:59,760this happened right over Sudbury and

29200:17:56,660 --> 00:18:05,100there were people all on that flight who

29300:17:59,759 --> 00:18:06,849got to see this aircraft or this UFO how

29400:18:05,099 --> 00:18:10,480highly reported was

29500:18:06,849 --> 00:18:12,309this incident as far as I know only in

29600:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,920that particular book written by yerko

29700:18:12,309 --> 00:18:17,079Bundy Bundy Chuck

29800:18:13,920 --> 00:18:20,650it's UFOs over Canada by your code bunda

29900:18:17,079 --> 00:18:22,960Chuck and you know I just bought the


30000:18:20,650 --> 00:18:25,810book and I used bookstore in Niagara

30100:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,340Falls I mean there's this story about

30200:18:25,809 --> 00:18:28,359not just Sudbury but at the same time

30300:18:27,339 --> 00:18:30,639they were having sightings in

30400:18:28,359 --> 00:18:33,639Drummondville Quebec yeah of a

30500:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,850bell-shaped object and it ran for a good

30600:18:33,640 --> 00:18:40,810two three days between the 12th and the

30700:18:35,849 --> 00:18:42,39915th of July 1974 mm-hmm this is a this

30800:18:40,809 --> 00:18:45,190is the first time I've got to talk to

30900:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,620you Michelle and so we're going into

31000:18:45,190 --> 00:18:50,950this nice and cold and I'm actually kind

31100:18:47,619 --> 00:18:52,869of excited about that because it's not

31200:18:50,950 --> 00:18:55,299very often I get to share my own stories

31300:18:52,869 --> 00:19:00,759with you what brought me into this field

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00:18:55,299 --> 00:19:03,180was in 2014 I started having some ore in

31500:19:00,759 --> 00:19:06,789pardon me in 2012 I started having a

31600:19:03,180 --> 00:19:09,549plethora of UFO sightings I started

31700:19:06,789 --> 00:19:12,519having pretty much anytime I want from

31800:19:09,549 --> 00:19:14,710black triangles to orbs over my house in

31900:19:12,519 --> 00:19:17,019the middle of the daytime it was pretty

32000:19:14,710 --> 00:19:20,110pretty interesting where it got really

32100:19:17,019 --> 00:19:23,589surreal for me was almost exactly two

32200:19:20,109 --> 00:19:25,869years ago when we were over at a

32300:19:23,589 --> 00:19:29,649friend's house mrs. space-out radio and

32400:19:25,869 --> 00:19:31,389myself and I all the sudden started

32500:19:29,650 --> 00:19:34,300getting what I thought was a migraine

32600:19:31,390 --> 00:19:37,270headache it turned out that it was

32700:19:34,299 --> 00:19:41,289actually shapes pulsating on my head and

32800:19:37,269 --> 00:19:44,139


I came down with an absolute anxiety

32900:19:41,289 --> 00:19:47,829attack that I had to go outside to their

33000:19:44,140 --> 00:19:50,080back ten acres to see what was there so

33100:19:47,829 --> 00:19:53,169I took one of my friends with me we went

33200:19:50,079 --> 00:19:56,109outside and in the same volume that I'm

33300:19:53,170 --> 00:19:58,180talking to you and our listeners I said

33400:19:56,109 --> 00:20:00,639you called us outside out of God's peace

33500:19:58,180 --> 00:20:02,860love and light can you please show me

33600:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,140where you are and a hundred and fifty

33700:20:02,859 --> 00:20:07,990feet away or make that about a hundred

33800:20:05,140 --> 00:20:10,870fifty yards away pardon me and in the

33900:20:07,990 --> 00:20:13,750entire forest treeline lit up from the

34000:20:10,869 --> 00:20:17,709ground and here I was with my friend

34100:20:13,750 --> 00:20:20,160staring at this UFO on the ground and it

34200:20:17,710 --> 00:20:23,370did that three times for me it


34300:20:20,160 --> 00:20:25,650selfi before it disappeared and when you

34400:20:23,369 --> 00:20:27,929start having sightings like that they

34500:20:25,650 --> 00:20:31,470impact you when you had your own

34600:20:27,930 --> 00:20:33,930personal experiences did it impact you

34700:20:31,470 --> 00:20:36,059as well where it just kind of rattled

34800:20:33,930 --> 00:20:39,600you to wonder whether or not we've been

34900:20:36,059 --> 00:20:42,450told the truth about life actually it

35000:20:39,599 --> 00:20:47,069took me up to my 10th sighting before I

35100:20:42,450 --> 00:20:49,830realized I said to myself says you

35200:20:47,069 --> 00:20:52,379freaking idiot you look at the stuff

35300:20:49,829 --> 00:20:54,750that you've seen and you cannot explain

35400:20:52,380 --> 00:20:57,660it in any conventional terms by any

35500:20:54,750 --> 00:20:59,579stretch of the imagination this stuff is

35600:20:57,660 --> 00:21:01,950really going on and this is only after


35700:20:59,579 --> 00:21:06,359my tenth sighting I've had 27 sightings

35800:21:01,950 --> 00:21:08,009since 1974 some of them were reported to

35900:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,679me at first being somebody else's

36000:21:08,009 --> 00:21:13,140sighting and I was very back the back

36100:21:10,680 --> 00:21:16,560end of it like the very end of the

36200:21:13,140 --> 00:21:18,509sighting and so yeah it took me ten

36300:21:16,559 --> 00:21:20,339sightings to realize I'd be gone before

36400:21:18,509 --> 00:21:22,920that I'd be going through my personal

36500:21:20,339 --> 00:21:24,480checklist is it a helicopter no is it

36600:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,180something like a helicopter but it's not

36700:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,860making any sound does the helicopter

36800:21:27,180 --> 00:21:30,570only have a single light source on it

36900:21:28,859 --> 00:21:32,609moving away from your eyes no that

37000:21:30,569 --> 00:21:34,740doesn't make sense that when indicates

371


00:21:32,609 --> 00:21:36,750like a single light at the back end of

37200:21:34,740 --> 00:21:38,940an airplane let's say but no sound I

37300:21:36,750 --> 00:21:42,059think I can pick up the sound of an

37400:21:38,940 --> 00:21:46,110airplane an airliner at 35,000 feet no

37500:21:42,059 --> 00:21:47,579problem at night specially and soon

37600:21:46,109 --> 00:21:49,799after that I've only made one mistake

37700:21:47,579 --> 00:21:52,409once where I saw a cluster of three

37800:21:49,799 --> 00:21:56,009lights one big light flanked by two

37900:21:52,410 --> 00:21:57,660smaller ones could hear the sound and I

38000:21:56,009 --> 00:22:00,599flashed my flashlight at it

38100:21:57,660 --> 00:22:03,480I waited for the object of pass over me

38200:22:00,599 --> 00:22:05,579and ten seconds behind the object ten

38300:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,339seconds behind you can make out the

38400:22:05,579 --> 00:22:10,049sound of the plane so I said shit I felt

38500:22:08,339 --> 00:22:12,089


like an idiot Here I am flagging the

38600:22:10,049 --> 00:22:12,899plane down and the airport is right

38700:22:12,089 --> 00:22:16,500behind me

38800:22:12,900 --> 00:22:19,320I says okay before I go to the media for

38900:22:16,500 --> 00:22:21,869any with any report I have to make damn

39000:22:19,319 --> 00:22:23,759sure that what I'm looking at is out of

39100:22:21,869 --> 00:22:25,979the ordinary and I've already gone

39200:22:23,759 --> 00:22:27,990through my list because otherwise last

39300:22:25,980 --> 00:22:30,240thing you want is to look like an idiot

39400:22:27,990 --> 00:22:32,740in front of your family members in the

39500:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,690media and the public in general

39600:22:32,740 --> 00:22:37,750I think that's a really important topic

39700:22:34,690 --> 00:22:40,179to actually touch on because so many in

39800:22:37,750 --> 00:22:43,089the mainstream do not take what we do

39900:22:40,179 --> 00:22:47,440very seriously they think we're a bunch


40000:22:43,089 --> 00:22:49,029of wackos who have have mental issues

40100:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,279whether it's schizophrenia bipolar

40200:22:49,029 --> 00:22:52,808disorder you've heard them all you know

40300:22:51,279 --> 00:22:54,940we're talking on camera right now I

40400:22:52,808 --> 00:22:58,769could see you laughing well while you're

40500:22:54,940 --> 00:23:02,519saying that and one of the things that

40600:22:58,769 --> 00:23:05,799I'm curious about do you think as

40700:23:02,519 --> 00:23:09,220society starts looking more at their

40800:23:05,799 --> 00:23:11,470phones than up in the skies that we're

40900:23:09,220 --> 00:23:15,269going to see less and less quality

41000:23:11,470 --> 00:23:20,230reports actually make it

41100:23:15,269 --> 00:23:22,179yeah well take for instance take for

41200:23:20,230 --> 00:23:26,829instance the known fact while the known

41300:23:22,179 --> 00:23:30,309fact so far that the unknowns actually


41400:23:26,829 --> 00:23:32,259accumulate them maybe 10% now a project

41500:23:30,308 --> 00:23:34,869Bluebook closed down they basically said

41600:23:32,259 --> 00:23:36,640that the unknown 3% had they be

41700:23:34,869 --> 00:23:39,039investigated more thoroughly when it

41800:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,410been found to be nothing out of the

41900:23:39,039 --> 00:23:43,149ordinary but when somebody did the

42000:23:41,410 --> 00:23:47,529research for that project Bluebook

42100:23:43,150 --> 00:23:50,350special report 14 turns out that the

42200:23:47,529 --> 00:23:55,329unknowns were 23.5%

42300:23:50,349 --> 00:23:57,308not just 3% but 20 23.5 percent were

42400:23:55,329 --> 00:23:59,230unknowns and it says well how do you

42500:23:57,308 --> 00:24:01,178know that they were categorized unknowns

42600:23:59,230 --> 00:24:04,089and not something that didn't have

42700:24:01,179 --> 00:24:06,130enough information to you listed as an

428


00:24:04,089 --> 00:24:08,619unknown while they had a separate list

42900:24:06,130 --> 00:24:11,800of insufficient information you cannot

43000:24:08,619 --> 00:24:15,699label it an unknown if you did not have

43100:24:11,799 --> 00:24:16,539enough of all the details to do to label

43200:24:15,700 --> 00:24:21,460it as such

43300:24:16,539 --> 00:24:24,970well I still I still say today that the

43400:24:21,460 --> 00:24:28,569the percentage of unknowns has still got

43500:24:24,970 --> 00:24:31,329to be in the 20 so percent because

43600:24:28,569 --> 00:24:36,220remember only 10% of the sightings are

43700:24:31,329 --> 00:24:38,639actually being reported and so if 10% of

43800:24:36,220 --> 00:24:42,370that 10% turns out to be unknowns

43900:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,450imagine what how many of the other 90%

44000:24:42,369 --> 00:24:45,668that are gone

44100:24:43,450 --> 00:24:46,429going unreported were actually true

44200:24:45,669 --> 00:24:48,889


unknown

44300:24:46,429 --> 00:24:51,889now the problem today we have problems

44400:24:48,888 --> 00:24:54,048with Chinese lanterns we have problems

44500:24:51,888 --> 00:24:58,069with drones although I have yet to see

44600:24:54,048 --> 00:25:00,319one fly anywhere I know one guy has one

44700:24:58,069 --> 00:25:04,398in his film over the Inca property which

44800:25:00,319 --> 00:25:06,528is against the law but we have a problem

44900:25:04,398 --> 00:25:09,348now our Chinese lanterns are being flown

45000:25:06,528 --> 00:25:12,638for any type of celebration or

45100:25:09,348 --> 00:25:15,499anniversary and I've seen those myself

45200:25:12,638 --> 00:25:18,858but people tend to forget is that

45300:25:15,499 --> 00:25:22,940Chinese lanterns move at the whim of the

45400:25:18,858 --> 00:25:25,638winds the current the winds UFOs will

45500:25:22,940 --> 00:25:28,690fight against wind they'll hover for

45600:25:25,638 --> 00:25:30,949hours on end and so that's why even


45700:25:28,690 --> 00:25:33,440don't have a page on my website that

45800:25:30,950 --> 00:25:36,558says how to identify UFO in 30 minutes

45900:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,528or less sometimes you may have to stay

46000:25:36,558 --> 00:25:41,028outside for a couple of hours looking at

46100:25:39,528 --> 00:25:42,229the object that you're looking at to

46200:25:41,028 --> 00:25:45,679make sure that it's not a plane

46300:25:42,229 --> 00:25:48,739helicopter satellite International Space

46400:25:45,679 --> 00:25:49,999Station meteorite bolide fireball and

46500:25:48,739 --> 00:25:52,069all of the above

46600:25:49,999 --> 00:25:53,778so I created a page that has all those

46700:25:52,069 --> 00:25:56,058criterias of what to look for in your

46800:25:53,778 --> 00:25:58,579full sighting and then plus all the

46900:25:56,058 --> 00:26:02,298lists of the so-called quick fix quick

47000:25:58,579 --> 00:26:05,388links quick explanations for UFOs


47100:26:02,298 --> 00:26:08,838so it's people need to educate

47200:26:05,388 --> 00:26:10,998themselves and not assume that you see

47300:26:08,838 --> 00:26:12,798something for a second that is a UFO

47400:26:10,999 --> 00:26:16,669right after that you have to look at it

47500:26:12,798 --> 00:26:18,858listen for sound and hopefully if you

47600:26:16,669 --> 00:26:20,288you're near a military base and that

47700:26:18,858 --> 00:26:23,088would be something I would look into

47800:26:20,288 --> 00:26:25,429before you run to the media and say

47900:26:23,088 --> 00:26:27,888you've seen a UFO if it's some kind of

48000:26:25,429 --> 00:26:31,940military flight here we use to have a

48100:26:27,888 --> 00:26:34,788radar base that was made famous 1975 the

48200:26:31,940 --> 00:26:37,460famous funk bridge radar base which was

48300:26:34,788 --> 00:26:39,528overflowing with UFOs at about the same

48400:26:37,460 --> 00:26:42,219time as four military installations in

485


00:26:39,528 --> 00:26:44,749the States were flown by UFOs in

48600:26:42,219 --> 00:26:47,149November of 1975

48700:26:44,749 --> 00:26:49,969well that base no longer exists the

48800:26:47,148 --> 00:26:52,518closest base to us now if there's

48900:26:49,969 --> 00:26:55,849anything left military there is in North

49000:26:52,519 --> 00:26:59,180Bay which is due hours east of here and

49100:26:55,848 --> 00:27:01,549I have not seen too many military

49200:26:59,180 --> 00:27:05,390aircraft fly around here in the last

49300:27:01,549 --> 00:27:09,470decade or so so whenever we have flying

49400:27:05,390 --> 00:27:11,360here first of all is silent first of all

49500:27:09,470 --> 00:27:13,730and second of all is displaying colors

49600:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,039of such a vivid purples and pinks and

49700:27:13,730 --> 00:27:20,269blues that you don't find a typical

49800:27:16,039 --> 00:27:22,849aircraft and and so on so it's

49900:27:20,269 --> 00:27:25,670


fascinating that the 10% seems to linger

50000:27:22,849 --> 00:27:28,189but I think that the unknowns are is a

50100:27:25,670 --> 00:27:31,370much higher percentage but once people

50200:27:28,190 --> 00:27:33,410become trained observers themselves and

50300:27:31,369 --> 00:27:36,139although the skeptics might like might

50400:27:33,410 --> 00:27:40,000like to argue that point I believe after

50500:27:36,140 --> 00:27:40,000you've had a certain amount of sightings

50600:27:44,170 --> 00:27:49,130we're just having a Skype freeze right

50700:27:46,910 --> 00:27:53,720now there we go we just had a little bit

50800:27:49,130 --> 00:27:54,860of a Skype freeze there so Oh what let

50900:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,660me get to this because we only got about

51000:27:54,859 --> 00:27:59,689three minutes before we go to our break

51100:27:56,660 --> 00:28:03,320here at the bottom of the hour I have

51200:27:59,690 --> 00:28:05,720actually seen a drone and when my wife

51300:28:03,319 --> 00:28:07,129and I were starting to have a lot of UFO


51400:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,190sightings it was getting to the point

51500:28:07,130 --> 00:28:12,740for us where it was every night and we

51600:28:10,190 --> 00:28:16,610could define the difference between a

51700:28:12,740 --> 00:28:18,859satellite and something that was not a

51800:28:16,609 --> 00:28:22,579satellite let's say it would seem to be

51900:28:18,859 --> 00:28:28,789at the same altitude and one thing that

52000:28:22,579 --> 00:28:31,759we noticed was the more we had these UFO

52100:28:28,789 --> 00:28:35,299sightings or sanam las' lights in the

52200:28:31,759 --> 00:28:39,230sky that were going by the more we were

52300:28:35,299 --> 00:28:42,950getting air traffic of say like Cessnas

52400:28:39,230 --> 00:28:45,950and and other things flying around our

52500:28:42,950 --> 00:28:49,039house and what made it interesting was

52600:28:45,950 --> 00:28:50,900one night there was a cessna and it had

52700:28:49,039 --> 00:28:56,089its red and blue is going with its


52800:28:50,900 --> 00:28:58,070strobe flasher and literally probably a

52900:28:56,089 --> 00:29:01,250hundred hundred and fifty yards behind

53000:28:58,069 --> 00:29:03,980it was this weird-looking aircraft with

53100:29:01,250 --> 00:29:07,789just two white lights on it and they

53200:29:03,980 --> 00:29:11,480weren't strobing and until it passed our

53300:29:07,789 --> 00:29:12,259house we didn't hear any sound until it

53400:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,839went past

53500:29:12,259 --> 00:29:18,410and then we could hear the propeller on

53600:29:14,839 --> 00:29:21,379the second aircraft and we figured out

53700:29:18,410 --> 00:29:24,830right then and there that there was a

53800:29:21,380 --> 00:29:27,020drone flying by our house and it was the

53900:29:24,829 --> 00:29:33,879first time I had seen a drone because

54000:29:27,019 --> 00:29:36,829Vancouver International has a drone

54100:29:33,880 --> 00:29:39,100factory that if I factory is that

542


00:29:36,829 --> 00:29:43,220manufacturing plant let's call it that

54300:29:39,099 --> 00:29:45,319and they actually sell and rent out

54400:29:43,220 --> 00:29:48,860drones to the Canadian military and to

54500:29:45,319 --> 00:29:50,899the US military and one of the things I

54600:29:48,859 --> 00:29:53,569found very interesting was this drone

54700:29:50,900 --> 00:29:56,720didn't have the regular lights on it and

54800:29:53,569 --> 00:29:58,099I found that very strange that all of a

54900:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,000sudden my wife and I are getting all of

55000:29:58,099 --> 00:30:04,250these sight sightings of UFOs and then

55100:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,058this drone just happens to fly by by a

55200:30:04,250 --> 00:30:11,298Cessna have you heard of that before

55300:30:07,058 --> 00:30:16,428no no that's pretty unusual pretty

55400:30:11,298 --> 00:30:18,980unusual but the drone like I'm assuming

55500:30:16,429 --> 00:30:22,280it's it's it's those shaped like a plane

55600:30:18,980 --> 00:30:23,900


it has wings and vertical stabilizers or

55700:30:22,279 --> 00:30:29,149the typical things that you need lift

55800:30:23,900 --> 00:30:31,400for you know I've that's another thing I

55900:30:29,150 --> 00:30:33,650went for online I looked for all kinds

56000:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,548of drones that are out on the market or

56100:30:33,650 --> 00:30:39,950owned by or used by the military and

56200:30:36,548 --> 00:30:42,440included in the included a an aquatic an

56300:30:39,950 --> 00:30:45,410aquatic drone which was pretty oddly

56400:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,240shaped but pretty cool to look at and so

56500:30:45,410 --> 00:30:49,790I because I try to stay on top of this

56600:30:47,240 --> 00:30:53,870stuff so that if people reboard anything

56700:30:49,789 --> 00:30:55,879they'll have a visual photograph of what

56800:30:53,869 --> 00:30:58,189to look for if what they're seeing is a

56900:30:55,880 --> 00:31:03,320drone and not something out of this

57000:30:58,190 --> 00:31:05,330world no we are talking with me shall


57100:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,279day Sean tonight on spaced out radio

57200:31:05,329 --> 00:31:09,470he's a Canadian you apologists at a

57300:31:07,279 --> 00:31:13,250Northern Ontario you could check out his

57400:31:09,470 --> 00:31:17,660website new force.com new forces n o u

57500:31:13,250 --> 00:31:19,669fo r s calm we are going to put you on

57600:31:17,660 --> 00:31:21,259hold for just a couple of seconds here

57700:31:19,669 --> 00:31:23,030Michelle well a couple of minutes we're

57800:31:21,259 --> 00:31:25,029gonna hop out for our first break of the

57900:31:23,029 --> 00:31:26,579night when we come back

58000:31:25,029 --> 00:31:30,099we're gonna get Michelle to break down

58100:31:26,579 --> 00:31:32,649UFO sighting criteria that way we can

58200:31:30,099 --> 00:31:35,379all learn what to look for and what to

58300:31:32,650 --> 00:31:37,330decipher up in the sky you're listening

58400:31:35,380 --> 00:31:39,040to spaced out radio I am your host Dave


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71700:36:59,679 --> 00:37:05,589tonight we are talking UF ology up here

71800:37:02,679 --> 00:37:08,259in canada with michel de sharm his

71900:37:05,590 --> 00:37:13,150website is new force.com that spelled

72000:37:08,260 --> 00:37:15,040nou fo RS comm we bring in michelle for

72100:37:13,150 --> 00:37:17,110the second half hour tonight Michelle I

72200:37:15,039 --> 00:37:18,820know you're battling a cold but you're a

72300:37:17,110 --> 00:37:24,870real trooper doing this for us tonight

72400:37:18,820 --> 00:37:28,360oh thank you I'll try to you know be as

72500:37:24,869 --> 00:37:30,599and be as the eloquent of a speaker as I

72600:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,019usually am when I have my normal voice

72700:37:30,599 --> 00:37:34,630


mm-hmm

72800:37:32,019 --> 00:37:36,219I don't mind I don't mind whatsoever I

72900:37:34,630 --> 00:37:38,260know you'll get through you got that

73000:37:36,219 --> 00:37:40,059french-canadian accent going so it's

73100:37:38,260 --> 00:37:42,940working for you my friend it's working

73200:37:40,059 --> 00:37:44,469for you yeah well I thought I would have

73300:37:42,940 --> 00:37:45,139gotten rid of that years ago but

73400:37:44,469 --> 00:37:49,579apparently not

73500:37:45,139 --> 00:37:51,019so it's your disdain soon state for the

73600:37:49,579 --> 00:37:53,539breaking up something interesting and

73700:37:51,019 --> 00:37:56,409that was the faux sighting criteria

73800:37:53,539 --> 00:38:03,529chart what made you do that

73900:37:56,409 --> 00:38:05,389yeah well along with other pages I

74000:38:03,530 --> 00:38:08,180create on the website I hadn't seen

74100:38:05,389 --> 00:38:11,869anything I'd not seen anything like that


74200:38:08,179 --> 00:38:13,639on any other website and I thought that

74300:38:11,869 --> 00:38:16,789it was a mistake not to have that

74400:38:13,639 --> 00:38:19,339anywhere because people need reference

74500:38:16,789 --> 00:38:26,269guides reference guides as to what to

74600:38:19,340 --> 00:38:28,190look for color whatever and so I as an

74700:38:26,269 --> 00:38:29,960idea would come to my mind I said okay

74800:38:28,190 --> 00:38:32,510well I can create a page about that so

74900:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,809people will just get the basic gist of

75000:38:32,510 --> 00:38:37,790what to look for in a sighting if you

75100:38:35,809 --> 00:38:40,070happen to be an avid Sky Watcher that is

75200:38:37,789 --> 00:38:42,079like you said earlier though the

75300:38:40,070 --> 00:38:43,730tendency of looking down at yourself on

75400:38:42,079 --> 00:38:45,920your belly button walking down the

75500:38:43,730 --> 00:38:49,550street when everything around you is


75600:38:45,920 --> 00:38:55,099going on it's a pretty sad state of

75700:38:49,550 --> 00:38:57,470affairs you know because if that same

75800:38:55,099 --> 00:38:59,839person looking at a cell phone texting

75900:38:57,469 --> 00:39:02,599while walking or whatever would spend an

76000:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,190entire week looking at the sky I'd be

76100:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,460willing to bet a hundred won that they

76200:39:04,190 --> 00:39:10,010would see something out of the ordinary

76300:39:06,460 --> 00:39:12,079hopefully not mistaking you know Venus

76400:39:10,010 --> 00:39:13,280or Jupiter for UFO if through not

76500:39:12,079 --> 00:39:16,099accustomed to looking at the night sky

76600:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,110of course I have had cases where people

76700:39:16,099 --> 00:39:20,809have been reporting Jupiter and Venus to

76800:39:18,110 --> 00:39:22,640me as a UFO so you have to familiarize

76900:39:20,809 --> 00:39:25,190yourself with with the astronomical

770


00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:29,509charts and planets and constellations as

77100:39:25,190 --> 00:39:30,980well but hopefully this will be it'll

77200:39:29,510 --> 00:39:33,440get better people will have a tendency

77300:39:30,980 --> 00:39:35,000to just look at the sky and and look

77400:39:33,440 --> 00:39:40,190down at their belly buttons and their

77500:39:35,000 --> 00:39:42,380cell phones less and less so I basically

77600:39:40,190 --> 00:39:44,720created this one page called you if you

77700:39:42,380 --> 00:39:46,970look in the margin you'll see all the

77800:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,659stuff that I've the most important pages

77900:39:46,969 --> 00:39:53,389of my website I have over a thousand or

78000:39:49,659 --> 00:39:56,0891,300 pages on my website but the links

78100:39:53,389 --> 00:39:57,159in the margin are all the more important

78200:39:56,090 --> 00:40:00,160page

78300:39:57,159 --> 00:40:03,129cops saucers those specifically

78400:40:00,159 --> 00:40:05,528


dedicated to police sightings sightings

78500:40:03,130 --> 00:40:08,740made of UFOs by police officers

78600:40:05,528 --> 00:40:11,619I have pilots and UFOs have politicians

78700:40:08,739 --> 00:40:14,108and UFOs celebrities in UFOs well you

78800:40:11,619 --> 00:40:16,650have okay you have folk characteristics

78900:40:14,108 --> 00:40:19,480is the one page I wanted to put together

79000:40:16,650 --> 00:40:22,298so that people would know what to look

79100:40:19,480 --> 00:40:25,619for if they want to try to distinguish a

79200:40:22,298 --> 00:40:29,829UFO sighting from a man-made object or

79300:40:25,619 --> 00:40:32,619astronomical phenomena so I have eight

79400:40:29,829 --> 00:40:37,480criteria so you got shape color or

79500:40:32,619 --> 00:40:40,809colors sound relax their of size speed

79600:40:37,480 --> 00:40:44,139behavior level of high strangeness and

79700:40:40,809 --> 00:40:45,609duration of the sighting a lot of times

79800:40:44,139 --> 00:40:47,500people have this misconception that


79900:40:45,608 --> 00:40:50,048sightings will last only seconds but

80000:40:47,500 --> 00:40:52,329sometimes you'd be surprised at how long

80100:40:50,048 --> 00:40:54,338are you a fuckin hover in place even

80200:40:52,329 --> 00:40:58,059compared to helicopter helicopter will

80300:40:54,338 --> 00:41:00,489still be buffeted by winds but a UFO

80400:40:58,059 --> 00:41:06,099will be rock-solid right there in the

80500:41:00,489 --> 00:41:08,318air not moving an inch so I as I put at

80600:41:06,099 --> 00:41:10,329the top of the page here country to what

80700:41:08,318 --> 00:41:12,548the skeptics will tell you it is

80800:41:10,329 --> 00:41:16,059possible for anyone to easily identify

80900:41:12,548 --> 00:41:19,088or distinguish UFOs from any man-made

81000:41:16,059 --> 00:41:21,490objects in natural phenomena in the sky

81100:41:19,088 --> 00:41:23,679once you've had your first sighting of

81200:41:21,489 --> 00:41:25,149another fight flying object and you


81300:41:23,679 --> 00:41:26,919familiarize yourself with a night sky

81400:41:25,150 --> 00:41:29,769you'll quickly become a good observer

81500:41:26,920 --> 00:41:34,420and you'll know exactly what to look for

81600:41:29,768 --> 00:41:35,828the next time your sky watched I find

81700:41:34,420 --> 00:41:37,210that very interesting because I'm

81800:41:35,829 --> 00:41:41,230looking at the list right now at new

81900:41:37,210 --> 00:41:44,318force calm and shape color sound I get

82000:41:41,230 --> 00:41:46,869size speed I get behavior can you break

82100:41:44,318 --> 00:41:50,288down what level of high strangeness is

82200:41:46,869 --> 00:41:52,750and what you mean by that that would be

82300:41:50,289 --> 00:41:56,500if all of a sudden the object would do

82400:41:52,750 --> 00:41:59,380like loop-de-loops right angle turns at

82500:41:56,500 --> 00:42:01,650a very high velocity which is impossible

82600:41:59,380 --> 00:42:06,789for any aircraft to do including

827


00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:10,369helicopters drones excuse me

82800:42:06,789 --> 00:42:13,620drones it's another story

82900:42:10,369 --> 00:42:15,900because most of these Tory drones that

83000:42:13,619 --> 00:42:19,799people buy that have a camera really

83100:42:15,900 --> 00:42:22,230good HD camera and my dad the four

83200:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,480propellers I think only allow it to fly

83300:42:22,230 --> 00:42:29,610horizontally I mean they can go straight

83400:42:24,480 --> 00:42:32,070up vertically but I would find it

83500:42:29,610 --> 00:42:34,260difficult to see how fast it could do

83600:42:32,070 --> 00:42:36,690like a loop-de-loop if there's a way for

83700:42:34,260 --> 00:42:39,090this thing to go on the side because the

83800:42:36,690 --> 00:42:41,280way the propellers are built maybe if it

83900:42:39,090 --> 00:42:43,470lifts even the slightest on this side

84000:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,340you're gonna see it going from left to

84100:42:43,469 --> 00:42:49,579


right and not really do anything

84200:42:46,340 --> 00:42:55,740fantastic as these UFOs have been

84300:42:49,579 --> 00:42:58,049recorded doing also the one thing that

84400:42:55,739 --> 00:43:00,059UFOs seem to be able to do which we

84500:42:58,050 --> 00:43:03,390don't have anything that can do that is

84600:43:00,059 --> 00:43:07,409the ability to submerge in water and

84700:43:03,389 --> 00:43:11,309then resurface you know the only thing I

84800:43:07,409 --> 00:43:14,339know that we have in this case military

84900:43:11,309 --> 00:43:17,820is the Trident missile being launched by

85000:43:14,340 --> 00:43:20,010my nuclear sub now that's the only time

85100:43:17,820 --> 00:43:22,559you'll have an object that departs from

85200:43:20,010 --> 00:43:24,750another object which is submerged but

85300:43:22,559 --> 00:43:27,539you don't see the missile coming back

85400:43:24,750 --> 00:43:31,530after it's done its run and re-enter the

85500:43:27,539 --> 00:43:33,599sub you know or in the water so that's


85600:43:31,530 --> 00:43:35,220that's one of the high strangeness you'd

85700:43:33,599 --> 00:43:37,889have to look for if you're lucky to live

85800:43:35,219 --> 00:43:40,589near a body of water like goes to

85900:43:37,889 --> 00:43:42,029Vancouver or the coast to California

86000:43:40,590 --> 00:43:47,700where there's a lot of sightings by

86100:43:42,030 --> 00:43:50,310Catalina Island so that's one thing to

86200:43:47,699 --> 00:43:55,009look for and amongst many for the high

86300:43:50,309 --> 00:43:57,840level of high strangeness for the last

86400:43:55,010 --> 00:44:00,450criteria like I said some sightings may

86500:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,670last seconds so you may not be able to

86600:44:00,449 --> 00:44:05,159determine that it's UFO like something

86700:44:02,670 --> 00:44:06,960from another planet unless their damn

86800:44:05,159 --> 00:44:10,199thing lands in front of you and it looks

86900:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,059like a sauce with the tripod leg landing


87000:44:10,199 --> 00:44:15,000gear then you'll say well there's no

87100:44:12,059 --> 00:44:18,059denying that you know I know people that

87200:44:15,000 --> 00:44:21,239I've actually seen beings they've seen

87300:44:18,059 --> 00:44:21,579being standing inside the object which

87400:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,919was

87500:44:21,579 --> 00:44:25,539ring and they were looking in at the

87600:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,869object with a six hundred power

87700:44:25,539 --> 00:44:30,759telescope and this is the late 60s one

87800:44:28,869 --> 00:44:34,929of my friend from inco was now 80 years

87900:44:30,760 --> 00:44:38,260old has had so many sightings since 1966

88000:44:34,929 --> 00:44:40,509before that he was a pure skeptic and he

88100:44:38,260 --> 00:44:43,240happened to work at the one of the two

88200:44:40,510 --> 00:44:46,720mining sites I told you about which

88300:44:43,239 --> 00:44:50,319seems to attract UFOs on a somewhat

884


00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:52,599regular basis so for him there's no

88500:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,519question that there's objects that come

88600:44:52,599 --> 00:44:57,639from someplace else because they display

88700:44:54,519 --> 00:44:59,889a behavior and maneuverability that we

88800:44:57,639 --> 00:45:02,739can't even match no matter what we have

88900:44:59,889 --> 00:45:06,099whether it's a toy drone or a military

89000:45:02,739 --> 00:45:08,649drone that looks to me like a plane you

89100:45:06,099 --> 00:45:11,319know the vertical stabilizers and wings

89200:45:08,650 --> 00:45:16,150if you see an object that's circular in

89300:45:11,320 --> 00:45:18,610shape and there's no way for it to stay

89400:45:16,150 --> 00:45:20,650aloft then I'd be scratching my head and

89500:45:18,610 --> 00:45:23,740say what the hell is that if it's got no

89600:45:20,650 --> 00:45:25,329propellers and it then it puts out light

89700:45:23,739 --> 00:45:27,849brighter than daylight which is another

89800:45:25,329 --> 00:45:30,849


level of high strangeness I've been I've

89900:45:27,849 --> 00:45:33,099heard that that account that report or

90000:45:30,849 --> 00:45:35,409that quality of sighting reported

90100:45:33,099 --> 00:45:37,480through Linda Moulton Howe where people

90200:45:35,409 --> 00:45:40,299have reported UFOs casting light that's

90300:45:37,480 --> 00:45:43,570brighter than daylight and just another

90400:45:40,300 --> 00:45:44,289thing do lights on UFOs are very very

90500:45:43,570 --> 00:45:46,570weird

90600:45:44,289 --> 00:45:47,880they don't cast light and they don't

90700:45:46,570 --> 00:45:51,340cast shadows

90800:45:47,880 --> 00:45:53,410so there's weirdness about it through

90900:45:51,340 --> 00:45:55,809and through you just gotta be very

91000:45:53,409 --> 00:45:58,719persistent and if you happen to live in

91100:45:55,809 --> 00:46:02,590the hot spot well it wouldn't be long

91200:45:58,719 --> 00:46:04,509before you got to use this checklist and


91300:46:02,590 --> 00:46:05,530check off every single thing that's on

91400:46:04,510 --> 00:46:09,460there mm-hmm

91500:46:05,530 --> 00:46:13,000I agree with you with the lights because

91600:46:09,460 --> 00:46:16,360when I had that landing happen 150 yards

91700:46:13,000 --> 00:46:18,550away from me Michelle the one thing that

91800:46:16,360 --> 00:46:22,059I remember the most on it when I look

91900:46:18,550 --> 00:46:25,360back is as bright as the white lights

92000:46:22,059 --> 00:46:27,429were emanating through the trees that

92100:46:25,360 --> 00:46:31,890separated from where we were from where

92200:46:27,429 --> 00:46:34,480this thing was was the fact that I

92300:46:31,889 --> 00:46:35,349remember them being that light being

92400:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,840probably

92500:46:35,349 --> 00:46:42,369one of the brightest white lights I have

92600:46:37,840 --> 00:46:45,640ever seen and yet I never wasn't I never


92700:46:42,369 --> 00:46:47,139had to squint I never had to squint you

92800:46:45,639 --> 00:46:49,929know because when you get up close to

92900:46:47,139 --> 00:46:51,819bright lights it hurts your eyes you

93000:46:49,929 --> 00:46:56,109start to squint you start to close your

93100:46:51,820 --> 00:46:57,789eyes a little bit and see you know just

93200:46:56,110 --> 00:46:59,620how much that light is hurting your

93300:46:57,789 --> 00:47:00,279pupils and your retinas and everything

93400:46:59,619 --> 00:47:02,500like that

93500:47:00,280 --> 00:47:05,830but with this bright light then I saw

93600:47:02,500 --> 00:47:09,340and my friend who was with me also

93700:47:05,829 --> 00:47:12,429comment on on it we didn't have to

93800:47:09,340 --> 00:47:14,380squint we could just take it all in and

93900:47:12,429 --> 00:47:16,480I've never seen anything like that

94000:47:14,380 --> 00:47:20,460before and I don't know if I'll ever

941


00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:22,570seen anything like that again yeah yeah

94200:47:20,460 --> 00:47:25,630that's what happens with your sightings

94300:47:22,570 --> 00:47:28,600when you have however many sightings

94400:47:25,630 --> 00:47:30,280you've had same with me you never know

94500:47:28,599 --> 00:47:33,159if you'll have the same sighting twice

94600:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,170as far as I know every single object I

94700:47:33,159 --> 00:47:39,399saw was different from one to the next

94800:47:35,170 --> 00:47:40,050and the one sighting that impressed me

94900:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,180the most

95000:47:40,050 --> 00:47:45,310well my first sighting now looking back

95100:47:43,179 --> 00:47:48,519and realizing what it was is pretty neat

95200:47:45,309 --> 00:47:52,029but my next sighting over after that one

95300:47:48,519 --> 00:47:54,519was when I was in my twenty twenties old

95400:47:52,030 --> 00:47:56,500enough to know what a plane was and we

95500:47:54,519 --> 00:47:59,170


have the Sudbury Airport not far from

95600:47:56,500 --> 00:48:01,030where the radar base used to be actually

95700:47:59,170 --> 00:48:03,220eye level to eye level used to be at the

95800:48:01,030 --> 00:48:05,260airport and you can see right across the

95900:48:03,219 --> 00:48:08,349way on the next hilltop was where the

96000:48:05,260 --> 00:48:11,100radar base used to be and the one

96100:48:08,349 --> 00:48:14,019sighting I had there in 1919 October

96200:48:11,099 --> 00:48:17,369first of all it looked like Jupiter at

96300:48:14,019 --> 00:48:20,079its brightest but the odd thing was as

96400:48:17,369 --> 00:48:22,059it gradually was coming down almost

96500:48:20,079 --> 00:48:25,389reminded me of that sighting over

96600:48:22,059 --> 00:48:28,329jerusalem temple but unlike that

96700:48:25,389 --> 00:48:30,699particular case as the light was coming

96800:48:28,329 --> 00:48:33,159down he was getting brighter so right

96900:48:30,699 --> 00:48:36,969away I thought holy shit this light is


97000:48:33,159 --> 00:48:39,699coming down at a 45-degree angle as it

97100:48:36,969 --> 00:48:42,219got brighter and even though it was six

97200:48:39,699 --> 00:48:44,049miles away there's all these chains of

97300:48:42,219 --> 00:48:47,259hills that eventually led to the radar

97400:48:44,050 --> 00:48:48,160base I saw that object from three

97500:48:47,260 --> 00:48:52,150different vantage

97600:48:48,159 --> 00:48:54,129points in the last place is hard it was

97700:48:52,150 --> 00:48:56,079hovering next to the radar base the

97800:48:54,130 --> 00:49:00,789radar base has already been closed a few

97900:48:56,079 --> 00:49:03,069years previous in 87 or 86 and this is

98000:49:00,789 --> 00:49:04,829an October 1990 there's no leaves on the

98100:49:03,070 --> 00:49:08,380trees I could see it clearly it was

98200:49:04,829 --> 00:49:12,480pulsating red reddish pink but a very

98300:49:08,380 --> 00:49:16,150odd color and the next day I went back


98400:49:12,480 --> 00:49:19,240looking through binoculars and I

98500:49:16,150 --> 00:49:22,030estimated its size to be the same as one

98600:49:19,239 --> 00:49:25,509particular structure of the radar base

98700:49:22,030 --> 00:49:27,640which later on I went and measured with

98800:49:25,510 --> 00:49:30,220two people from a local little tabloid

98900:49:27,639 --> 00:49:32,319newspaper and it turns out that it was

99000:49:30,219 --> 00:49:35,39940 feet across because the building

99100:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,510itself was 40 feet by 40 feet and

99200:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,510initially I'd reported the sighting as

99300:49:37,510 --> 00:49:42,610as being as large as a car but you see a

99400:49:40,510 --> 00:49:44,400car at that distance from where I was

99500:49:42,610 --> 00:49:47,289was exactly four and a half miles away

99600:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,630but then I said no no it was bigger than

99700:49:47,289 --> 00:49:51,279a car and when we measured the the

998


00:49:49,630 --> 00:49:53,800building that particular building before

99900:49:51,280 --> 00:49:58,060they finally raised everything to the

100000:49:53,800 --> 00:50:00,730ground more recently yeah sorry I get an

100100:49:58,059 --> 00:50:02,949estimate it's not always precise and

100200:50:00,730 --> 00:50:06,429it's very hard to distinguish size at

100300:50:02,949 --> 00:50:08,049night and distance that's the only

100400:50:06,429 --> 00:50:10,899frustration for a frustrating thing

100500:50:08,050 --> 00:50:13,060about seeing something at night you can

100600:50:10,900 --> 00:50:18,400it's very hard to calculate distance and

100700:50:13,059 --> 00:50:20,199very hard to calculate size when you

100800:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,869talk to people and they tell you their

100900:50:20,199 --> 00:50:26,409experiences in regards to what they are

101000:50:22,869 --> 00:50:28,210seeing how many are actually seeing UFOs

101100:50:26,409 --> 00:50:32,259and in your opinion how many you're

101200:50:28,210 --> 00:50:37,480


seeing maybe a strange military aircraft

101300:50:32,260 --> 00:50:40,600that we don't know about around here

101400:50:37,480 --> 00:50:43,480it's one less than 1% for the people

101500:50:40,599 --> 00:50:46,098that report the stuff that they've seen

101600:50:43,480 --> 00:50:49,099we don't have there's no one there's no

101700:50:46,099 --> 00:50:54,019there is nothing nothing of military

101800:50:49,099 --> 00:50:57,048value here anymore Falconbridge radar

101900:50:54,018 --> 00:51:01,129base is now gone I have one souvenir

102000:50:57,048 --> 00:51:04,400here I liked like some while I was not a

102100:51:01,130 --> 00:51:07,489vandal but we got into the base one time

102200:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,858and the only souvenir I managed to get

102300:51:07,489 --> 00:51:12,259is that piece of paper that you find in

102400:51:09,858 --> 00:51:14,598the elevator that tells you how much

102500:51:12,259 --> 00:51:17,838what what weight restriction is for the

102600:51:14,599 --> 00:51:18,798elevator itself and it says Department


102700:51:17,838 --> 00:51:21,889of National Defense

102800:51:18,798 --> 00:51:24,409it is 687 which is when the base was

102900:51:21,889 --> 00:51:27,170closed and so I have that piece of paper

103000:51:24,409 --> 00:51:29,868I got the window on the elevator shaft

103100:51:27,170 --> 00:51:33,858or the doorway was actually broken

103200:51:29,869 --> 00:51:37,249it was probably 5 inches by 5 inches and

103300:51:33,858 --> 00:51:39,920I reached in and that piece of paper was

103400:51:37,248 --> 00:51:41,748inside of a plastic envelope stuck on

103500:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,269the wall and it's the only thing I could

103600:51:41,748 --> 00:51:46,248remove so now I look back at that thing

103700:51:44,268 --> 00:51:48,169which is hanging on my wall here and I

103800:51:46,248 --> 00:51:50,179have a souvenir the only existing thing

103900:51:48,170 --> 00:51:52,909left from the radar because I planned to

104000:51:50,179 --> 00:51:55,669make a model to display what the base


104100:51:52,909 --> 00:51:57,649looked like with its domes its ears on

104200:51:55,670 --> 00:51:59,900it and when later years when they

104300:51:57,650 --> 00:52:01,278attempted doors off when I had my

104400:51:59,900 --> 00:52:03,108sighting because the donors were long

104500:52:01,278 --> 00:52:11,059gone the base would already be closed

104600:52:03,108 --> 00:52:13,818and my assumption is see UFO UFO be not

104700:52:11,059 --> 00:52:17,119stupid they must have known that back in

104800:52:13,818 --> 00:52:20,38975 and any other time after that when

104900:52:17,119 --> 00:52:21,729there's a radar logon they know it so I

105000:52:20,389 --> 00:52:24,739think they were simply there

105100:52:21,728 --> 00:52:27,228investigating why was the base no longer

105200:52:24,739 --> 00:52:29,088operating it's the only reason why would

105300:52:27,228 --> 00:52:31,788it stop after I saw it from another

105400:52:29,088 --> 00:52:34,099location and it travels six miles over

1055


00:52:31,789 --> 00:52:36,319the hilltops until it reached that last

105600:52:34,099 --> 00:52:38,838hilltop before you get to the airport is

105700:52:36,318 --> 00:52:40,548where the base was there can't be any

105800:52:38,838 --> 00:52:44,058other explanation of why it stopped

105900:52:40,548 --> 00:52:46,548there and so that was my second sighting

106000:52:44,059 --> 00:52:50,089and I ice trying to sketch it as best as

106100:52:46,548 --> 00:52:52,038I could because we're in my family

106200:52:50,088 --> 00:52:54,498there's a few of us that are pretty good

106300:52:52,039 --> 00:52:56,719artists and I wish I knew how to use

106400:52:54,498 --> 00:52:58,369Photoshop so I can do a better rendition

106500:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,400of some of my sightings and other

106600:52:58,369 --> 00:53:03,920sightings but it's the one sighting that

106700:53:01,400 --> 00:53:06,440impressed me and got me out of the

106800:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,150youthful logical closet so to speak it

106900:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,389


took me three days to gather the nerves

107000:53:08,150 --> 00:53:12,860to speak to the police officers call it

107100:53:11,389 --> 00:53:15,199the it's the only place at that time and

107200:53:12,860 --> 00:53:18,769I had not joined new fun at that time

107300:53:15,199 --> 00:53:20,269anything you know about MUFON and I

107400:53:18,769 --> 00:53:21,829called the police and they just kept me

107500:53:20,269 --> 00:53:24,820on line long enough to determine whether

107600:53:21,829 --> 00:53:28,519or not I was nuts and that was it

107700:53:24,820 --> 00:53:31,039separation right and I sorry but I knew

107800:53:28,519 --> 00:53:33,079right then the police department was not

107900:53:31,039 --> 00:53:35,570the place to call to report a sighting

108000:53:33,079 --> 00:53:36,710and that was my next question leading up

108100:53:35,570 --> 00:53:39,800that brings up an interesting question

108200:53:36,710 --> 00:53:44,630in regards to in Canada here who do we

108300:53:39,800 --> 00:53:48,710really have across this country to file


108400:53:44,630 --> 00:53:51,410these reports to because MUFON is very

108500:53:48,710 --> 00:53:53,269scattered up north yes it's not very

108600:53:51,409 --> 00:53:57,019organized we can be honest about that

108700:53:53,269 --> 00:54:00,019not like it is in the United States the

108800:53:57,019 --> 00:54:03,920RCMP have bigger and better things to do

108900:54:00,019 --> 00:54:06,860than to worry about somebody who sees a

109000:54:03,920 --> 00:54:09,980strange craft in the air although they

109100:54:06,860 --> 00:54:12,140do say they want the reports have you

109200:54:09,980 --> 00:54:14,840ever investigated what the police do

109300:54:12,139 --> 00:54:17,599with those reports here in Canada or is

109400:54:14,840 --> 00:54:23,150it just like a cracked a code that can't

109500:54:17,599 --> 00:54:25,159be cracked one particular person told me

109600:54:23,150 --> 00:54:27,320that they wound up in dead letter files

109700:54:25,159 --> 00:54:30,309and whether or not they're actually


109800:54:27,320 --> 00:54:33,920still in some basement

109900:54:30,309 --> 00:54:37,070filing cabinet or out of what at the

110000:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,329time came up and got them and eventually

110100:54:37,070 --> 00:54:41,930made their way to the National Archives

110200:54:38,329 --> 00:54:44,799I don't know but there-there was a lot

110300:54:41,929 --> 00:54:48,500of some of the initial sighting

110400:54:44,800 --> 00:54:51,440observers to the sighting in 1975 were

110500:54:48,500 --> 00:54:55,219actually police officers and nursing

110600:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,869staff at a nursing home and so and many

110700:54:55,219 --> 00:55:00,099times I've heard I've heard stories of

110800:54:56,869 --> 00:55:02,690police chasing UFOs down the highway and

110900:55:00,099 --> 00:55:05,809it's too bad that that information is

111000:55:02,690 --> 00:55:07,429not put forth because people would then

111100:55:05,809 --> 00:55:09,110realize well it's not just a bunch of

1112


00:55:07,429 --> 00:55:11,319idiots reporting sightings we're talking

111300:55:09,110 --> 00:55:14,320about cops that are supposed to be

111400:55:11,320 --> 00:55:17,740for any eventuality or so they thought

111500:55:14,320 --> 00:55:19,660you know because they're not trained to

111600:55:17,739 --> 00:55:22,209chase after UFOs but I'm sure they've

111700:55:19,659 --> 00:55:23,829had their close call and I have a few

111800:55:22,210 --> 00:55:26,500news clipping articles that talk about

111900:55:23,829 --> 00:55:29,049that kind of stuff but yeah the files I

112000:55:26,500 --> 00:55:32,139would really be interested in in seeing

112100:55:29,050 --> 00:55:34,780anything like that you know just as much

112200:55:32,139 --> 00:55:38,199as I love looking for the physical

112300:55:34,780 --> 00:55:40,269evidence because that's to me that to me

112400:55:38,199 --> 00:55:42,369is what would put the last nail in the

112500:55:40,269 --> 00:55:44,980coffin you're trying to explain to

112600:55:42,369 --> 00:55:46,420


people that these things are real but

112700:55:44,980 --> 00:55:49,360you're trying to focus on physical

112800:55:46,420 --> 00:55:51,519evidence which is not a lot of it going

112900:55:49,360 --> 00:55:54,160around when you get a lot of pictures of

113000:55:51,519 --> 00:55:55,869landing sites but there's not a whole

113100:55:54,159 --> 00:55:59,289lot of books that were ever written

113200:55:55,869 --> 00:56:01,269about UFO landing sites and what the

113300:55:59,289 --> 00:56:05,500analysis of the soil would you know

113400:56:01,269 --> 00:56:07,599revealed and it's too bad but the police

113500:56:05,500 --> 00:56:11,079reports they're just as interesting to

113600:56:07,599 --> 00:56:13,239me as the reports made by pilots for

113700:56:11,079 --> 00:56:18,159instance which are also another branch

113800:56:13,239 --> 00:56:19,750of trained observers under there you out

113900:56:18,159 --> 00:56:21,819of the police reports that you have

114000:56:19,750 --> 00:56:26,260checked out could you give us a couple


114100:56:21,820 --> 00:56:29,200of examples of those well the only one

114200:56:26,260 --> 00:56:31,930report I ever did get it was a former

114300:56:29,199 --> 00:56:34,989OPP officer who actually submitted to me

114400:56:31,929 --> 00:56:36,879a short letter and I don't know if I've

114500:56:34,989 --> 00:56:39,250scanned it replace it on the website but

114600:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,349I plan to I don't even have a photograph

114700:56:39,250 --> 00:56:44,679of the officer but his name was Alan

114800:56:41,349 --> 00:56:49,750Cooke and he had a sighting in the

114900:56:44,679 --> 00:56:52,480Killarney Provincial Park area in 1977

115000:56:49,750 --> 00:56:56,679of a rectangular shaped object like just

115100:56:52,480 --> 00:57:01,059a box moving over the tree line in 1977

115200:56:56,679 --> 00:57:02,710and when I find that letter I'll make

115300:57:01,059 --> 00:57:05,769sure to scan it and include it with my

115400:57:02,710 --> 00:57:07,329cups and saucers page because it's the


115500:57:05,769 --> 00:57:09,909only time while there's another police

115600:57:07,329 --> 00:57:12,610officer in town who hurt his neck and

115700:57:09,909 --> 00:57:15,609he's retired or whatever and he had a

115800:57:12,610 --> 00:57:18,160sighting as well and I have the audio of

115900:57:15,610 --> 00:57:20,800that interview if you want to call it

116000:57:18,159 --> 00:57:22,119that I the way I do my my recordings of

116100:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,920people

116200:57:22,119 --> 00:57:26,529other people like the kind of stuff cuz

116300:57:23,920 --> 00:57:29,440he can hear the emotion in the voice of

116400:57:26,530 --> 00:57:33,430the witnesses themselves and it's got

116500:57:29,440 --> 00:57:36,880not just me talking for them so I don't

116600:57:33,429 --> 00:57:40,690have a lot of police reports but I tried

116700:57:36,880 --> 00:57:44,700I think I was asked to combine what I

116800:57:40,690 --> 00:57:47,289found out with constable

1169


00:57:44,699 --> 00:57:50,109he's a constable from the UK who also

117000:57:47,289 --> 00:57:54,969has a website specifically dedicated to

117100:57:50,110 --> 00:57:57,789police reports of UFOs and I have his

117200:57:54,969 --> 00:58:02,230link on my police on my cops and saucers

117300:57:57,789 --> 00:58:06,340page but yeah I wish those reports were

117400:58:02,230 --> 00:58:08,710more forthcoming because Minh to some

117500:58:06,340 --> 00:58:10,390police officers since then about

117600:58:08,710 --> 00:58:12,220anything like that and I would love to

117700:58:10,389 --> 00:58:14,769even do a presentation because I have so

117800:58:12,219 --> 00:58:17,500much information from the States and

117900:58:14,769 --> 00:58:19,599elsewhere about what the police officers

118000:58:17,500 --> 00:58:22,840themselves have seen and chased down the

118100:58:19,599 --> 00:58:24,670highway you know those were all ideas

118200:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,380they got for Close Encounters of the

118300:58:24,670 --> 00:58:28,450


Third Kind when you see that chase scene

118400:58:26,380 --> 00:58:30,430in there where the cop car goes right

118500:58:28,449 --> 00:58:33,189over it while I don't had ever happen in

118600:58:30,429 --> 00:58:35,529real life but I'm sure in the excitement

118700:58:33,190 --> 00:58:38,019of the pursuit you know there's a good

118800:58:35,530 --> 00:58:39,820possibility a couple of times bad police

118900:58:38,019 --> 00:58:42,460officers car might have been there I

119000:58:39,820 --> 00:58:44,559mean I've been in a wreck because they

119100:58:42,460 --> 00:58:48,639were following something that could

119200:58:44,559 --> 00:58:50,650outrun them no problem when you have

119300:58:48,639 --> 00:58:53,920talked to police officers in regards to

119400:58:50,650 --> 00:58:55,720UFOs whether they're RCMP or whether

119500:58:53,920 --> 00:58:59,980they are Ontario provincial police

119600:58:55,719 --> 00:59:01,019officers have they ever told you what

119700:58:59,980 --> 00:59:06,849the protocol is


119800:59:01,019 --> 00:59:11,530for a UFO sighting or a UFO landing

119900:59:06,849 --> 00:59:13,659shall we say no you know I've never

120000:59:11,530 --> 00:59:17,890really asked them that I said something

120100:59:13,659 --> 00:59:22,989I should do because we like where I work

120200:59:17,889 --> 00:59:24,879I work in a retail store and I'm not

120300:59:22,989 --> 00:59:26,019really supposed to talk to the officers

120400:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,170when they were there they're there to

120500:59:26,019 --> 00:59:31,090arrest some shoplifter or whatever and a

120600:59:29,170 --> 00:59:32,750couple of occasions I gave up my card

120700:59:31,090 --> 00:59:36,140for my website

120800:59:32,750 --> 00:59:39,139but I would like to know if they have

120900:59:36,139 --> 00:59:42,460anything in place kind of like what the

121000:59:39,139 --> 00:59:46,759firefighters have in place in the States

121100:59:42,460 --> 00:59:49,610now that one manual it's a disaster


121200:59:46,760 --> 00:59:53,240control manual for the firefighters and

121300:59:49,610 --> 00:59:56,870one chapter is totally dedicated to UFOs

121400:59:53,239 --> 00:59:59,089and potential enemy attacks and of

121500:59:56,869 --> 01:00:01,250course you look and say well if there

121600:59:59,090 --> 01:00:04,100was a UFO crash who would be the first

121701:00:01,250 --> 01:00:06,139people at the scene it would be five

121801:00:04,099 --> 01:00:08,809firefighters trying to put out the fire

121901:00:06,139 --> 01:00:11,569if they think it's that crashed airplane

122001:00:08,809 --> 01:00:14,239or whatever I kind of wondered about

122101:00:11,570 --> 01:00:17,330that if we if our Canadian counterparts

122201:00:14,239 --> 01:00:20,689of the firefighting department would

122301:00:17,329 --> 01:00:22,639have the same us or a similar manual

122401:00:20,690 --> 01:00:25,880that has a chapter dedicated to what to

122501:00:22,639 --> 01:00:28,819do in the eventualities of of getting

1226


01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:33,619through a UFO crash site but as I know

122701:00:28,820 --> 01:00:35,809now the probability of civilians getting

122801:00:33,619 --> 01:00:38,690to a crash site for is before me first

122901:00:35,809 --> 01:00:42,679before the military is very slim because

123001:00:38,690 --> 01:00:46,190in the States including Canada there's

123101:00:42,679 --> 01:00:48,940something something called sage in Sage

123201:00:46,190 --> 01:00:51,980I don't know if it's still in in

123301:00:48,940 --> 01:00:56,090operating mode today but it was a

123401:00:51,980 --> 01:00:58,250network of radar setups so and and if

123501:00:56,090 --> 01:01:00,620the military of course is obviously tied

123601:00:58,250 --> 01:01:02,719in with NORAD and NORAD has the best

123701:01:00,619 --> 01:01:06,619equipment for tracking anything in outer

123801:01:02,719 --> 01:01:08,359space and at low level of course the

123901:01:06,619 --> 01:01:10,909military's gonna get there first because

124001:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,559


they have the best technology they know

124101:01:10,909 --> 01:01:14,629exactly when something's coming down

124201:01:12,559 --> 01:01:16,969they know exactly something when

124301:01:14,630 --> 01:01:18,590something's going up I have a few

124401:01:16,969 --> 01:01:21,139interesting reports from the radar based

124501:01:18,590 --> 01:01:24,110I used to have here where my friend

124601:01:21,139 --> 01:01:26,599worked at inko witnessed his one

124701:01:24,110 --> 01:01:28,579particular sighting where the object was

124801:01:26,599 --> 01:01:31,849tracked until it disappeared below the

124901:01:28,579 --> 01:01:34,309radar line was over the Inca property

125001:01:31,849 --> 01:01:37,219for 15 minutes and caused an initial

125101:01:34,309 --> 01:01:39,340blackout which was reported to New York

125201:01:37,219 --> 01:01:42,649City because that's where the power came

125301:01:39,340 --> 01:01:45,590that the power dude kept the power the

125401:01:42,650 --> 01:01:48,619plants and then 15 minutes later in the


125501:01:45,590 --> 01:01:50,570object left and my friend said that the

125601:01:48,619 --> 01:01:52,730radar base got ahold of him after they

125701:01:50,570 --> 01:01:55,370had spoken to him before because he had

125801:01:52,730 --> 01:01:58,490a lot of sightings he boarded them they

125901:01:55,369 --> 01:02:00,049openly admitted to him that when the

126001:01:58,489 --> 01:02:06,009object left the area

126101:02:00,050 --> 01:02:10,610it took took off at 22,000 miles an hour

126201:02:06,010 --> 01:02:12,710Wow it is horrible in the koi had the

126301:02:10,610 --> 01:02:17,289Inca property all looked like it's a big

126401:02:12,710 --> 01:02:19,88050-foot oval completely white with one

126501:02:17,289 --> 01:02:22,279there was two lights on it one was red

126601:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,530one was green either the red one was

126701:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,570flashing and the green one was steady or

126801:02:24,530 --> 01:02:29,240the red light was steady and the green


126901:02:26,570 --> 01:02:31,700light was flashing and this thing angled

127001:02:29,239 --> 01:02:35,509up at 45-degree angle and it blink of an

127101:02:31,699 --> 01:02:38,629eye it was like a little moving star you

127201:02:35,510 --> 01:02:40,820know that's fast so it's like yeah that

127301:02:38,630 --> 01:02:43,640fast now I know of another report in

127401:02:40,820 --> 01:02:46,610Manitoba where the object was tracked on

127501:02:43,639 --> 01:02:50,029radar and reportedly going at thirty

127601:02:46,610 --> 01:02:52,789thousand miles an hour that you have an

127701:02:50,030 --> 01:02:54,830object yeah that's definitely a speeding

127801:02:52,789 --> 01:02:56,929ticket definitely a speeding ticket yes

127901:02:54,829 --> 01:02:59,059of these TVs yeah definitely speeding

128001:02:56,929 --> 01:03:01,699ticket and on top of that if they're

128101:02:59,059 --> 01:03:04,549able to even achieve a right angle turn

128201:03:01,699 --> 01:03:06,739at that speed that is something we

1283


01:03:04,550 --> 01:03:10,970definitely cannot do I don't care what

128401:03:06,739 --> 01:03:12,529anybody else says we cannot do that well

128501:03:10,969 --> 01:03:15,289there is question of whether the Aurora

128601:03:12,530 --> 01:03:17,300can do that but that's that's for a

128701:03:15,289 --> 01:03:19,610different topic on a different night

128801:03:17,300 --> 01:03:21,110Michelle I'm gonna get you to hold on we

128901:03:19,610 --> 01:03:23,480are going to take a break here at the

129001:03:21,110 --> 01:03:24,230top of the hour when we come back we're

129101:03:23,480 --> 01:03:28,219gonna get into

129201:03:24,230 --> 01:03:30,170crash sites as you just mentioned you're

129301:03:28,219 --> 01:03:32,000listening to spaced out radio our guest

129401:03:30,170 --> 01:03:36,050tonight is Michel de Chou

129501:03:32,000 --> 01:03:39,079his website is NuForce calm that's the

129601:03:36,050 --> 01:03:41,360Northern Ontario make sure I got this

129701:03:39,079 --> 01:03:46,130


right northern ontario UFO research and

129801:03:41,360 --> 01:03:48,170study nou f ors calm you're listening to

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141901:09:32,060 --> 01:09:39,020radio calm tonight we are talking

142001:09:35,329 --> 01:09:40,809with Michel de Xiang he is a UFO

142101:09:39,020 --> 01:09:44,330researcher out of Northern Ontario

142201:09:40,810 --> 01:09:49,070Canada his website new force comm that's

142301:09:44,329 --> 01:09:51,409nou f ors I highly suggest you go to the

142401:09:49,069 --> 01:09:53,449site check it out he's got a lot of good

142501:09:51,409 --> 01:09:55,760information and reports in there we


142601:09:53,449 --> 01:09:57,260bring Michel on you're battling a cold

142701:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,760but you're a real trooper tonight my

142801:09:57,260 --> 01:10:02,840friend I appreciate you being with us

142901:09:58,760 --> 01:10:05,230and our audience oh you're welcome

143001:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,909I I'm trying to do my best

143101:10:05,229 --> 01:10:10,219yours you're sounding great you're

143201:10:07,909 --> 01:10:12,170sounding great a couple of cops here and

143301:10:10,220 --> 01:10:12,560there but that's okay we can live with

143401:10:12,170 --> 01:10:15,289that

143501:10:12,560 --> 01:10:19,250hey rape right before the break we

143601:10:15,289 --> 01:10:21,979started chatting about crashes UFO

143701:10:19,250 --> 01:10:24,619crashes we know about the one in shag

143801:10:21,979 --> 01:10:27,049harbour in 1967 which is very

143901:10:24,619 --> 01:10:29,119coincidental because it was three months


144001:10:27,050 --> 01:10:34,190to the date that former Canadian Defense

144101:10:29,119 --> 01:10:36,890Minister Paul Hellyer was in Alberta for

144201:10:34,189 --> 01:10:39,619the 100th anniversary of Canada and they

144301:10:36,890 --> 01:10:43,250actually built in this alberta town a

144401:10:39,619 --> 01:10:47,019landing pad for a UFO saying hey come on

144501:10:43,250 --> 01:10:49,369to Canada we accept everybody including

144601:10:47,020 --> 01:10:52,160extraterrestrials and then three months

144701:10:49,369 --> 01:10:55,279later the shag Harbor incident happens

144801:10:52,159 --> 01:10:58,279in Nova Scotia which would be the

144901:10:55,279 --> 01:11:02,779equivalent of Canada's Roswell since

145001:10:58,279 --> 01:11:08,599shag harbour have we had any UFO crashes

145101:11:02,779 --> 01:11:11,769in Canada um there's been a few a couple

145201:11:08,600 --> 01:11:14,990of interesting tidbits of information I

145301:11:11,770 --> 01:11:18,020heard about there's no details

1454


01:11:14,989 --> 01:11:21,679whatsoever about this but I heard about

145501:11:18,020 --> 01:11:28,960a UFO crash in or near Owen Sound which

145601:11:21,680 --> 01:11:33,950is between Sudbury and Toronto in 1954

145701:11:28,960 --> 01:11:37,159but unconfirmed the other thing that was

145801:11:33,949 --> 01:11:39,679pretty neat and I have thank God I have

145901:11:37,159 --> 01:11:44,300the audio track of this one

146001:11:39,679 --> 01:11:49,190in the tar sands of Alberta in the early

146101:11:44,300 --> 01:11:53,86980s they unearth a black object that

146201:11:49,189 --> 01:11:56,629weighed about to do tonnes look like it

146301:11:53,869 --> 01:12:00,309had the surface surface consistency of a

146401:11:56,630 --> 01:12:03,609golf ball but with a tail at one end and

146501:12:00,310 --> 01:12:05,750the workers had actually unearthed it

146601:12:03,609 --> 01:12:08,299tried to crack it open with a

146701:12:05,750 --> 01:12:10,550sledgehammer and couldn't do anything

146801:12:08,300 --> 01:12:13,329


including make a dent in it and that's

146901:12:10,550 --> 01:12:17,659the last we heard of it

147001:12:13,329 --> 01:12:20,059and I just happened to have my tape

147101:12:17,658 --> 01:12:21,619recorder ghettoblaster at work at that

147201:12:20,060 --> 01:12:24,980time I worked at the dealership at that

147301:12:21,619 --> 01:12:27,948time and the broadcast came on and I got

147401:12:24,979 --> 01:12:30,649the recording and that's all I got it

147501:12:27,948 --> 01:12:36,469was in the early 80s or early to mid 80s

147601:12:30,649 --> 01:12:38,28985 I think and I was blown away by the

147701:12:36,469 --> 01:12:41,989fact that they you know they've been

147801:12:38,289 --> 01:12:45,560sifting through the the tar sands trying

147901:12:41,988 --> 01:12:46,729to basically get blood out of a rock you

148001:12:45,560 --> 01:12:50,960know they're trying to get the oil from

148101:12:46,729 --> 01:12:53,059the sand to refine it whatever here's

148201:12:50,960 --> 01:12:56,119this object that's buried there that day


148301:12:53,060 --> 01:13:01,010on earth so what the hell was it and how

148401:12:56,119 --> 01:13:06,140long has it been there I was fortunate

148501:13:01,010 --> 01:13:08,750enough in 1994 to speak with the only at

148601:13:06,140 --> 01:13:13,460the time a leading authority on UFO

148701:13:08,750 --> 01:13:17,300crash retrievals Leonard Stringfield he

148801:13:13,460 --> 01:13:21,439died of colon cancer in December of 94 I

148901:13:17,300 --> 01:13:24,770got to speak with them in November of 94

149001:13:21,439 --> 01:13:27,009and because I was highly interested in

149101:13:24,770 --> 01:13:30,920some of the stuff that he uncovered

149201:13:27,010 --> 01:13:33,469landings during the Cambodian war in the

149301:13:30,920 --> 01:13:35,929middle of a freaking firefight and here

149401:13:33,469 --> 01:13:39,679is like some aliens gathering up body

149501:13:35,929 --> 01:13:42,140parts and then taking off well you want

149601:13:39,679 --> 01:13:44,810genetic material here's all these poor


149701:13:42,140 --> 01:13:47,719fallen soldiers all over the place you

149801:13:44,810 --> 01:13:48,679know who is gonna have time to bury them

149901:13:47,719 --> 01:13:51,590if they're in the middle of the war

150001:13:48,679 --> 01:13:54,170right so here's their chance to take

150101:13:51,590 --> 01:13:58,460some genetic material that they need

150201:13:54,170 --> 01:14:00,649and oddly enough one of the objects seem

150301:13:58,460 --> 01:14:04,609to have the same symbol on the side as

150401:14:00,649 --> 01:14:08,319what was seen by a police officer by the

150501:14:04,609 --> 01:14:12,679name of Lonnie Zamora in 1964 April in

150601:14:08,319 --> 01:14:16,759Socorro New Mexico so you have similar

150701:14:12,680 --> 01:14:18,920looking object seen over like two

150801:14:16,760 --> 01:14:22,880different countries over a period of

150901:14:18,920 --> 01:14:27,730time apart from each other but crashes

151001:14:22,880 --> 01:14:30,650themselves the information about them is

1511


01:14:27,729 --> 01:14:33,500far in between except for the listing of

151201:14:30,649 --> 01:14:35,62929 crashes worldwide is it 29 or

151301:14:33,500 --> 01:14:38,170whatever I have this one particular page

151401:14:35,630 --> 01:14:41,930I created that lists all the crashes

151501:14:38,170 --> 01:14:46,460you've got down the bores in Russia in

151601:14:41,930 --> 01:14:50,6591989 you have Mauritius Bay off of Long

151701:14:46,460 --> 01:14:54,039Island 1989 again you have one crash

151801:14:50,659 --> 01:14:59,229that occurred in South Africa in 1989

151901:14:54,039 --> 01:14:59,229possibly brought down by a military jet

152001:15:01,090 --> 01:15:10,220you have the the the initial crash near

152101:15:06,470 --> 01:15:11,810Roswell is only famous because it has

152201:15:10,220 --> 01:15:14,750the highest number of civilian witnesses

152301:15:11,810 --> 01:15:17,660to it and that's all people look to

152401:15:14,750 --> 01:15:19,520Roswell but now there's a stack New

152501:15:17,659 --> 01:15:23,090


Mexico 1948

152601:15:19,520 --> 01:15:27,170you've got Farmington New Mexico 1953

152701:15:23,090 --> 01:15:29,920and so on Kingman Arizona 1953 again and

152801:15:27,170 --> 01:15:33,649people wondered well why so many crashes

152901:15:29,920 --> 01:15:37,010in the southwestern states well those

153001:15:33,649 --> 01:15:40,460states New Mexico in the forties in

153101:15:37,010 --> 01:15:41,659particular but later on I'm sure it's

153201:15:40,460 --> 01:15:43,039where they have the highest

153301:15:41,659 --> 01:15:46,880concentration of military installations

153401:15:43,039 --> 01:15:48,649and secret labs in the 40s that's where

153501:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,590they tested the v2 rockets who had

153601:15:48,649 --> 01:15:56,569rocketry Inlet area plus you had the

153701:15:51,590 --> 01:15:58,909first atomic bomb test 1945 so if any

153801:15:56,569 --> 01:16:01,699alien race coming to this planet wanted

153901:15:58,909 --> 01:16:04,788to know about all technological


154001:16:01,699 --> 01:16:07,908achievements done at that time

154101:16:04,788 --> 01:16:09,798New Mexico southwestern states in

154201:16:07,908 --> 01:16:10,158particular would have been the place to

154301:16:09,798 --> 01:16:13,788be

154401:16:10,158 --> 01:16:16,698and if so many UF hoes such high traffic

154501:16:13,788 --> 01:16:19,608of UFOs in that area I'm not surprised

154601:16:16,698 --> 01:16:23,178that some of them unexpectedly crossed

154701:16:19,609 --> 01:16:25,039wires with this radar setup but also

154801:16:23,179 --> 01:16:26,538there was another thing too is there was

154901:16:25,038 --> 01:16:29,328a very large array of radar

155001:16:26,538 --> 01:16:33,078installations and maybe their ships were

155101:16:29,328 --> 01:16:36,048not geared to survive any radar beams

155201:16:33,078 --> 01:16:37,458sweeping across the countryside so it

155301:16:36,048 --> 01:16:41,359would explain to me why the so many


155401:16:37,458 --> 01:16:43,519crashes there but it does not it's not

155501:16:41,359 --> 01:16:45,559strictly restricted only to the states

155601:16:43,519 --> 01:16:48,378crashes have occurred elsewhere I'm sure

155701:16:45,559 --> 01:16:51,349and so it's very hard to come across

155801:16:48,378 --> 01:16:54,108that information good information that

155901:16:51,349 --> 01:16:57,649has details as much as what Leonard

156001:16:54,109 --> 01:16:59,659Stringfield as collected and so I tried

156101:16:57,649 --> 01:17:02,689to create a page that sort of dedicated

156201:16:59,658 --> 01:17:05,358day to his research but as well listing

156301:17:02,689 --> 01:17:08,239and focusing on all these other crashes

156401:17:05,359 --> 01:17:10,489other than Roswell and shag harbour I'm

156501:17:08,238 --> 01:17:14,808curious to get your opinion on what

156601:17:10,488 --> 01:17:18,828happened in 2015 there was a supposed

156701:17:14,809 --> 01:17:22,909crash in Manitoba on the Jacke head

1568


01:17:18,828 --> 01:17:28,308First Nations reserve the military said

156901:17:22,908 --> 01:17:32,259they were doing a test of a track a

157001:17:28,309 --> 01:17:35,569crashed airplane and military type

157101:17:32,260 --> 01:17:40,519exercise however there are witnesses

157201:17:35,569 --> 01:17:43,219there that say they saw a UFO crash into

157301:17:40,519 --> 01:17:47,149the lake did you ever find any

157401:17:43,219 --> 01:17:49,868information on that because that got

157501:17:47,149 --> 01:17:55,548swept under the rug pretty darn quick

157601:17:49,868 --> 01:17:57,648yeah but also yeah it's I'm 50/50 about

157701:17:55,548 --> 01:18:00,708this particular case because I spoke to

157801:17:57,649 --> 01:18:04,489uh well maybe he's not the right person

157901:18:00,708 --> 01:18:07,958to talk to Chris Markowski which oddly

158001:18:04,488 --> 01:18:11,088enough is a skeptic but also a

158101:18:07,958 --> 01:18:13,038researcher because as a researcher he

158201:18:11,088 --> 01:18:14,988


puts out the annual survey I think I

158301:18:13,038 --> 01:18:17,609don't first still the only country to do

158401:18:14,988 --> 01:18:20,189so but he puts out an annual

158501:18:17,609 --> 01:18:23,069survey of all the preceding years

158601:18:20,189 --> 01:18:28,079sightings across the country which just

158701:18:23,069 --> 01:18:29,789came out in April this April and he

158801:18:28,079 --> 01:18:30,869basically told me that there is nothing

158901:18:29,789 --> 01:18:34,289to the story

159001:18:30,869 --> 01:18:41,460I've seen the CGI'd photos of UFOs on

159101:18:34,289 --> 01:18:43,350the ice but at the same time yeah I I it

159201:18:41,460 --> 01:18:46,829would be that much of a stretch the

159301:18:43,350 --> 01:18:49,550imagination my imagination to that is to

159401:18:46,829 --> 01:18:53,850think that the male trying you know a

159501:18:49,550 --> 01:18:57,300because they're at his locations for the

159601:18:53,850 --> 01:19:00,450variable had from the get-go they're


159701:18:57,300 --> 01:19:03,029able to they they were trained and

159801:19:00,449 --> 01:19:07,729they've there they've become accustom

159901:19:03,029 --> 01:19:10,559even though crashes may be years apart

160001:19:07,729 --> 01:19:13,049they must have a technical technical

160101:19:10,560 --> 01:19:15,780manual that describes on how to handle

160201:19:13,050 --> 01:19:19,260these things and how to crowd to do

160301:19:15,779 --> 01:19:21,899crowd control on the population but at

160401:19:19,260 --> 01:19:25,619the same time I tried to contact some of

160501:19:21,899 --> 01:19:29,219my First Nation contacts and they

160601:19:25,619 --> 01:19:31,699haven't really said anything because

160701:19:29,220 --> 01:19:34,800normally the First Nation people

160801:19:31,699 --> 01:19:36,090regarding UFOs as the sky people they

160901:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,239would have opened up and said something

161001:19:36,090 --> 01:19:43,230if there's there was really something to


161101:19:39,239 --> 01:19:45,479this event so I'm not sure one way or

161201:19:43,229 --> 01:19:48,109the other I wish there was more First

161301:19:45,479 --> 01:19:53,549Nation people willing to come out and

161401:19:48,109 --> 01:19:57,420become whistleblowers but you know

161501:19:53,550 --> 01:20:00,090stories can go can just run my craze

161601:19:57,420 --> 01:20:03,239like wildfire you know by having

161701:20:00,090 --> 01:20:05,310somebody create a UFO with CGI you look

161801:20:03,239 --> 01:20:07,979at all the the video footage on YouTube

161901:20:05,310 --> 01:20:09,780for instance I can pretty well tell

162001:20:07,979 --> 01:20:12,689which one have been CGI'd and which ones

162101:20:09,779 --> 01:20:15,479I'll or I use my criteria my list of

162201:20:12,689 --> 01:20:17,149what to look for and there's some UFO

162301:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,289footage that I've seen on YouTube that

162401:20:17,149 --> 01:20:22,229really piqued my interest but there's

1625


01:20:19,289 --> 01:20:24,210other ones CGI right off the bat and

162601:20:22,229 --> 01:20:26,839it's a damn shame because those very

162701:20:24,210 --> 01:20:29,239same people who create the CGI

162801:20:26,840 --> 01:20:33,350don't know that UFOs have a very very

162901:20:29,239 --> 01:20:35,029plain-jane shape very plain Jane they

163001:20:33,350 --> 01:20:36,530don't have any structures to get out of

163101:20:35,029 --> 01:20:38,809them they don't have they don't

163201:20:36,529 --> 01:20:42,229metamorph in front of your eyes

163301:20:38,810 --> 01:20:44,510I mean necessarily and so you can tell

163401:20:42,229 --> 01:20:46,929that those people have never seen a UFO

163501:20:44,510 --> 01:20:49,369because the stuff they're putting on CGI

163601:20:46,930 --> 01:20:54,170is something we'd find in science

163701:20:49,369 --> 01:20:58,519fiction film you know but that Manitoba

163801:20:54,170 --> 01:21:00,590crash yeah I to me I'd say 50/50 on it

163901:20:58,520 --> 01:21:04,460


because there's no there's much better

164001:21:00,590 --> 01:21:07,699cases that have more evidence whether

164101:21:04,460 --> 01:21:09,890witnesses or physical evidence and then

164201:21:07,699 --> 01:21:13,579that particular case it's just it's

164301:21:09,890 --> 01:21:16,430gonna become harder to discern what is

164401:21:13,579 --> 01:21:19,659real in terms of our UFO crash if we

164501:21:16,430 --> 01:21:22,490can't even get there you know as

164601:21:19,659 --> 01:21:24,529firsthand witnesses that the military is

164701:21:22,489 --> 01:21:26,979gonna have a cover on that like in no

164801:21:24,529 --> 01:21:26,979time flat

164901:21:29,448 --> 01:21:38,809considering Canada is so vast and 95% of

165001:21:36,020 --> 01:21:42,199our population lives within 100

165101:21:38,810 --> 01:21:44,840kilometers or 60 miles from the United

165201:21:42,198 --> 01:21:48,229States border it really begs the

165301:21:44,840 --> 01:21:51,079question how many UFOs have crashed up


165401:21:48,229 --> 01:21:53,149here that have never been found whether

165501:21:51,079 --> 01:21:55,460it's in the Arctic portions of the

165601:21:53,149 --> 01:21:57,829territories whether it's in the northern

165701:21:55,460 --> 01:21:59,600parts of the province from Newfoundland

165801:21:57,829 --> 01:22:02,569all the way to British Columbia

165901:21:59,600 --> 01:22:05,420there could be crash sites around here

166001:22:02,569 --> 01:22:10,009that nobody knows about and they've been

166101:22:05,420 --> 01:22:13,100sitting there for decades yeah yeah I

166201:22:10,010 --> 01:22:17,510would be surprised there is one story I

166301:22:13,100 --> 01:22:20,230heard and I'm trying to see if the way

166401:22:17,510 --> 01:22:23,690the lady would be willing to speak on

166501:22:20,229 --> 01:22:24,579record I mean we did so outside of a

166601:22:23,689 --> 01:22:28,879friend's place

166701:22:24,579 --> 01:22:32,719I was visiting one of my friends contact


166801:22:28,880 --> 01:22:35,659First Nation person and she introduced

166901:22:32,719 --> 01:22:39,619me to this lady friend of hers whose

167001:22:35,659 --> 01:22:42,670father is now deceased but he was a

167101:22:39,619 --> 01:22:46,698general in a Canadian Armed Forces and

167201:22:42,670 --> 01:22:48,649what she told me is there at been there

167301:22:46,698 --> 01:22:51,678had been a UFO crash I think it was

167401:22:48,649 --> 01:22:55,960either British Columbia I'm not sure

167501:22:51,679 --> 01:23:00,170exactly where and she had dealt with the

167601:22:55,960 --> 01:23:05,510shipment or the withholding of the

167701:23:00,170 --> 01:23:06,980occupants body and she was she had no

167801:23:05,510 --> 01:23:09,289bones about telling me the story

167901:23:06,979 --> 01:23:11,178although we kind of talked about phone

168001:23:09,289 --> 01:23:12,198taps because my phone had been tapped

168101:23:11,179 --> 01:23:15,710like years

1682


01:23:12,198 --> 01:23:18,079biers years before in the 1990s things

168301:23:15,710 --> 01:23:20,000have been pretty quiet now but she did

168401:23:18,079 --> 01:23:21,380say well they have gotten better you

168501:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,789don't hear the double clicks on the

168601:23:21,380 --> 01:23:25,670phone anymore when your phone's being

168701:23:22,789 --> 01:23:28,670tapped and she's been followed because

168801:23:25,670 --> 01:23:30,199what she done as a teenager was

168901:23:28,670 --> 01:23:33,789something that no teenager should have

169001:23:30,198 --> 01:23:36,469done but she did when her dad was away

169101:23:33,789 --> 01:23:39,658when he was a general and Kinane Armed

169201:23:36,469 --> 01:23:43,289Forces she'd go in his office and snoop

169301:23:39,658 --> 01:23:48,710and wondered what he was deep with and

169401:23:43,289 --> 01:23:51,750she found those UFO FILES and so yeah

169501:23:48,710 --> 01:23:54,569later on she got in trouble with her dad

169601:23:51,750 --> 01:23:57,889


and she said that she might have been

169701:23:54,569 --> 01:24:00,719followed for a few years after that but

169801:23:57,889 --> 01:24:05,010yeah she she left everything behind and

169901:24:00,719 --> 01:24:06,689she's now married but even even trying

170001:24:05,010 --> 01:24:08,909to withhold her anonymity

170101:24:06,689 --> 01:24:10,919key-keeper keep keep her name out of it

170201:24:08,908 --> 01:24:13,069I'm gonna try and see if I can at least

170301:24:10,920 --> 01:24:17,699get a recording of what she told me

170401:24:13,069 --> 01:24:21,299outside of my friend's house last summer

170501:24:17,698 --> 01:24:23,698the summer before because that's pretty

170601:24:21,300 --> 01:24:27,029big when you hear a story from a lady

170701:24:23,698 --> 01:24:30,299whose father was a general high-level

170801:24:27,029 --> 01:24:33,779general indicate our forces you know had

170901:24:30,300 --> 01:24:36,210talked about a UFO crash and a body been

171001:24:33,779 --> 01:24:38,880sent for her study somewhere so I was


171101:24:36,210 --> 01:24:40,560like wow I'm not surprised because

171201:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,510they've had the same thing happened in

171301:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,070the States and elsewhere you know

171401:24:42,510 --> 01:24:45,750there's one particular is crash I think

171501:24:44,069 --> 01:24:49,679it's the Farmington either the

171601:24:45,750 --> 01:24:52,619Farmington New Mexico crash or the Aztec

171701:24:49,679 --> 01:24:55,130New Mexico crash in one particular

171801:24:52,619 --> 01:24:59,579object which was a hundred feet diameter

171901:24:55,130 --> 01:25:01,230they found 16 little bodies there's

172001:24:59,579 --> 01:25:03,269enough bodies to go around for different

172101:25:01,229 --> 01:25:06,959studies one particular place you might

172201:25:03,270 --> 01:25:09,510leave the the skin totally intact for

172301:25:06,960 --> 01:25:11,219external studies another place you might

172401:25:09,510 --> 01:25:13,500actually do our top season and


172501:25:11,219 --> 01:25:17,279dissections actually not autopsy because

172601:25:13,500 --> 01:25:18,869an autopsy is usually to determine the

172701:25:17,279 --> 01:25:21,869cause of death while in this particular

172801:25:18,869 --> 01:25:24,029case they know it's a crash they've had

172901:25:21,869 --> 01:25:26,130several crashes they must know they're

173001:25:24,029 --> 01:25:29,009not doing autopsies their actual

173101:25:26,130 --> 01:25:30,359dissections and that's why I'm one of

173201:25:29,010 --> 01:25:35,070the very few people who still believe

173301:25:30,359 --> 01:25:38,009that that alien autopsy of 1995 is real

173401:25:35,069 --> 01:25:40,710because there's signs about it that was

173501:25:38,010 --> 01:25:42,600not known to the public at that time and

173601:25:40,710 --> 01:25:45,539still raises a lot of questions more

173701:25:42,600 --> 01:25:48,630than answers to me who didn't though

173801:25:45,539 --> 01:25:50,698it's been labeled a hoax and somebody

1739


01:25:48,630 --> 01:25:51,560came forth and and just cried out that

174001:25:50,698 --> 01:25:53,369it's augs

174101:25:51,560 --> 01:25:55,890where's the proof

174201:25:53,369 --> 01:25:59,220I need just as much proof for hoax as

174301:25:55,890 --> 01:26:01,980you need proof for a real case I have a

174401:25:59,220 --> 01:26:07,079question from you or for you from Roz in

174501:26:01,979 --> 01:26:09,179paranormal forum net he says Michelle

174601:26:07,079 --> 01:26:11,279what do you think about smaller

174701:26:09,180 --> 01:26:12,450countries around the world opening up

174801:26:11,279 --> 01:26:18,109their UFO FILES

174901:26:12,449 --> 01:26:22,109I think it's great because you know we

175001:26:18,109 --> 01:26:23,849although it's not intended that way it's

175101:26:22,109 --> 01:26:25,939probably gonna put this I don't even

175201:26:23,850 --> 01:26:30,960know if he can put the states to shame

175301:26:25,939 --> 01:26:33,029


but I was able to get my hands on 10,000

175401:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,060Australian files from the Australian

175501:26:33,029 --> 01:26:37,559archives then I managed to get the 9

175601:26:36,060 --> 01:26:40,380downloads with the help of John

175701:26:37,560 --> 01:26:43,320Greenwald in California the remainder of

175801:26:40,380 --> 01:26:47,430the 8 or 9 downloads that the UK

175901:26:43,319 --> 01:26:49,799provided for a limited time until they

176001:26:47,430 --> 01:26:53,130started charging a certain amount of

176101:26:49,800 --> 01:26:57,570pounds for some downloading some PDFs

176201:26:53,130 --> 01:27:02,609and I've always said when it comes to

176301:26:57,569 --> 01:27:05,399this topic only UFOs documents should be

176401:27:02,609 --> 01:27:07,349in the public domain no questions about

176501:27:05,399 --> 01:27:09,779it nobody should be sitting on top not

176601:27:07,350 --> 01:27:11,070one particular country or government

176701:27:09,779 --> 01:27:13,319should be sitting on those documents


176801:27:11,069 --> 01:27:15,539it's what proves to the rest of us who

176901:27:13,319 --> 01:27:19,469are not alone never have been alone and

177001:27:15,539 --> 01:27:21,449never will be alone and I'm glad that

177101:27:19,470 --> 01:27:27,060was a smaller countries like Brazil

177201:27:21,449 --> 01:27:29,309France or Canada did you know what Chris

177301:27:27,060 --> 01:27:32,010rutkowski and I are probably the only

177401:27:29,310 --> 01:27:35,700two people in the whole country actually

177501:27:32,010 --> 01:27:39,630purchased I purchased five microfilm

177601:27:35,699 --> 01:27:42,239reels from the National Archives and my

177701:27:39,630 --> 01:27:45,270copies they don't have the names

177801:27:42,239 --> 01:27:47,729redacted or covered up you see the names

177901:27:45,270 --> 01:27:51,150of the witnesses I was able to find one

178001:27:47,729 --> 01:27:53,429document with my friend my friends named

178101:27:51,149 --> 01:27:56,659Vincent Hickey he's passed away he was


178201:27:53,430 --> 01:27:59,880also 80 years old he passed due two

178301:27:56,659 --> 01:28:01,949years ago he passed away he had lots of

178401:27:59,880 --> 01:28:04,680sightings reported MOLLE went to the

178501:28:01,949 --> 01:28:06,659radar base and Don Campbell has three

178601:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,050reports I have three of his reports it

178701:28:06,659 --> 01:28:08,729was my

178801:28:07,050 --> 01:28:10,800from wheels and there's stuff from

178901:28:08,729 --> 01:28:14,759Ottawa and everywhere else even off the

179001:28:10,800 --> 01:28:17,190Alaskan coast so I'm glad because in

179101:28:14,760 --> 01:28:19,680essence it's letting the rest of the

179201:28:17,189 --> 01:28:22,379population know if there's nothing to

179301:28:19,680 --> 01:28:24,630UFOs why so many documents put together

179401:28:22,380 --> 01:28:27,329about them it doesn't make any sense

179501:28:24,630 --> 01:28:29,220and I you look at the universe you know

1796


01:28:27,329 --> 01:28:34,340the night sky there's no way in hell

179701:28:29,220 --> 01:28:37,770we're alone it's waste of space agency

179801:28:34,340 --> 01:28:39,930if if we're the highest thing that's

179901:28:37,770 --> 01:28:44,220that's out there it's an insult to the

180001:28:39,930 --> 01:28:46,170notion of God mm-hmm I fully agree with

180101:28:44,220 --> 01:28:47,760you what do you think then is we got a

180201:28:46,170 --> 01:28:49,489couple minutes before we're gonna go to

180301:28:47,760 --> 01:28:52,650a break here at the bottom of the hour

180401:28:49,489 --> 01:28:58,619what it would Canada's role be in

180501:28:52,649 --> 01:29:00,089disclosure then is it something in your

180601:28:58,619 --> 01:29:01,979mind and maybe this is too much to ask

180701:29:00,090 --> 01:29:04,619before we go to break and we should

180801:29:01,979 --> 01:29:08,369maybe take this up right after the break

180901:29:04,619 --> 01:29:13,470here because with us being the best

181001:29:08,369 --> 01:29:16,559


friends and the largest unguarded border

181101:29:13,470 --> 01:29:18,690in North America here between Canada and

181201:29:16,560 --> 01:29:21,300the United States there is some

181301:29:18,689 --> 01:29:24,799give-and-take politically in regards to

181401:29:21,300 --> 01:29:27,900anything from free trade to oil to water

181501:29:24,800 --> 01:29:31,550fracking whatever it is that also

181601:29:27,899 --> 01:29:36,210includes defense forces like NORAD and

181701:29:31,550 --> 01:29:40,409NATO of course to protect what we have

181801:29:36,210 --> 01:29:44,310here in North America do you think then

181901:29:40,409 --> 01:29:49,019that that pertains also to the

182001:29:44,310 --> 01:29:54,530disclosure movement well as my friends

182101:29:49,020 --> 01:29:57,960excuse me as my friends like to bring up

182201:29:54,529 --> 01:30:03,779more often than not is that disclosure

182301:29:57,960 --> 01:30:06,510with the Big D or small D I think we're

182401:30:03,779 --> 01:30:11,099certainly like for US researchers I've


182501:30:06,510 --> 01:30:13,110heard the fact that we may be around to

182601:30:11,100 --> 01:30:15,630bridge the gap because when all hell

182701:30:13,109 --> 01:30:17,639breaks loose like just like a bad murder

182801:30:15,630 --> 01:30:20,579case

182901:30:17,640 --> 01:30:23,789the truth as a way of making it back to

183001:30:20,579 --> 01:30:26,430the surface and this is such a big story

183101:30:23,789 --> 01:30:29,519I don't care how much the military

183201:30:26,430 --> 01:30:32,670stands on the lid this pot is

183301:30:29,520 --> 01:30:34,650overflowing and once you open the

183401:30:32,670 --> 01:30:37,500floodgates there is no way in hell that

183501:30:34,649 --> 01:30:40,079you can close them down so this secret

183601:30:37,500 --> 01:30:42,960it's gonna come out one day sooner or

183701:30:40,079 --> 01:30:45,420later and people like myself like

183801:30:42,960 --> 01:30:48,689yourself we're gonna be the bridge to


183901:30:45,420 --> 01:30:50,340help close the gap between the people

184001:30:48,689 --> 01:30:52,319who are gonna be all panicky about this

184101:30:50,340 --> 01:30:54,869stuff thinking that the aliens are here

184201:30:52,319 --> 01:30:56,579to conquer us and invade us if that was

184301:30:54,869 --> 01:31:01,979the case it would have happened a long

184401:30:56,579 --> 01:31:03,359time ago you know so disclosure I'm not

184501:31:01,979 --> 01:31:07,589so sure anymore

184601:31:03,359 --> 01:31:09,949in what form it will take but if the

184701:31:07,590 --> 01:31:14,100government don't come out and say

184801:31:09,949 --> 01:31:16,199something the alien presence in our

184901:31:14,100 --> 01:31:19,650atmosphere is gonna force their hand

185001:31:16,199 --> 01:31:25,380because one day kind of like

185101:31:19,649 --> 01:31:28,259Independence Day - the you know the the

185201:31:25,380 --> 01:31:30,869conquering part of it there'll be

1853


01:31:28,260 --> 01:31:33,980massive UFOs big mother ships hovering

185401:31:30,869 --> 01:31:36,869over all metropolitan areas long enough

185501:31:33,979 --> 01:31:39,539like weeks on end long enough to hover

185601:31:36,869 --> 01:31:42,659in the sky so everybody coming in from

185701:31:39,539 --> 01:31:45,600work or going into work will all send

185801:31:42,659 --> 01:31:49,529pull over and look up and say what the

185901:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,950hell we've been lied to and that's all

186001:31:49,529 --> 01:31:53,639it would take

186101:31:49,949 --> 01:31:56,010I know those exact same words I've used

186201:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,930them I've used them myself

186301:31:56,010 --> 01:32:02,130that's what happens when you have a

186401:31:57,930 --> 01:32:05,579triangle hovering over your house one

186501:32:02,130 --> 01:32:07,170night it's just incredible Michelle I'm

186601:32:05,579 --> 01:32:08,519gonna get you to hold on for a break

186701:32:07,170 --> 01:32:10,350


here at the bottom of the hour we are

186801:32:08,520 --> 01:32:13,500talking with Canadian you apologist

186901:32:10,350 --> 01:32:14,520Michel Deshawn I his website I suggest

187001:32:13,500 --> 01:32:19,739you go check it out

187101:32:14,520 --> 01:32:21,960new force.com that's n o u fo r s.com

187201:32:19,739 --> 01:32:23,819you're listening to spaced out radio I

187301:32:21,960 --> 01:32:26,899am your host Dave Scott we'll be right

187401:32:23,819 --> 01:32:26,899back after this break

187501:32:27,029 --> 01:32:31,710have you ever had an extraterrestrial

187601:32:28,989 --> 01:32:33,699experience one you just couldn't explain

187701:32:31,710 --> 01:32:37,119well maybe I can help

187801:32:33,699 --> 01:32:38,949hello I am Samantha mullet on the second

187901:32:37,119 --> 01:32:41,109Tuesday of each month I will join Dave

188001:32:38,949 --> 01:32:43,809Scott on space jet radio to bring a

188101:32:41,109 --> 01:32:45,309human aspect to eg contact it's


188201:32:43,810 --> 01:32:47,350something I have lived with my entire

188301:32:45,310 --> 01:32:50,680life and I'd love to help you understand

188401:32:47,350 --> 01:32:52,480let's share our experiences the et

188501:32:50,680 --> 01:32:55,659experience the second Tuesday of each

188601:32:52,479 --> 01:32:59,439month only on space note radio ferries

188701:32:55,659 --> 01:33:01,539Bickford dock men trolls goblins pay if

188801:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,899it's cryptid in any way I'm looking into

188901:33:01,539 --> 01:33:04,269it

189001:33:01,899 --> 01:33:06,729hi there this is author Ronald Murphy

189101:33:04,270 --> 01:33:09,730also known as spaced out radios crypto

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189901:33:23,260 --> 01:33:29,110spaced-out radio.com hi there this is

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200301:37:48,769 --> 01:37:54,199archives our website is spaced out

200401:37:51,019 --> 01:37:57,918radio.com we are talking with Michelle

200501:37:54,198 --> 01:38:01,668Deshawn tonight he is an Ontario UF

200601:37:57,918 --> 01:38:05,929ologist his web site no force.com that's

200701:38:01,668 --> 01:38:08,538nou forf dot-com and we bring Michel

200801:38:05,929 --> 01:38:10,849back into space out radio land for sure

200901:38:08,538 --> 01:38:13,819and Michelle thank you so much for


201001:38:10,849 --> 01:38:17,029joining us Oh welcome welcome I

201101:38:13,819 --> 01:38:20,179appreciate it I have a question from

201201:38:17,029 --> 01:38:24,228paranormal into the night from Joe you

201301:38:20,179 --> 01:38:25,368mentioned Michelle weapons on UFOs in

201401:38:24,229 --> 01:38:27,349the beginning of the show

201501:38:25,368 --> 01:38:29,148he has never heard anybody talk about

201601:38:27,349 --> 01:38:34,609weapons on a UFO what do you know about

201701:38:29,149 --> 01:38:40,329them well some of the cases in Brazil

201801:38:34,609 --> 01:38:40,329for instance in the 50s in particular

201901:38:40,448 --> 01:38:45,589like cigarette cigarette smokers like

202001:38:43,099 --> 01:38:47,389yourself actually would stop going

202101:38:45,590 --> 01:38:51,229outside lighting up cigarettes because

202201:38:47,389 --> 01:38:54,578UFOs which whoever their pilot's are the

202301:38:51,229 --> 01:38:54,579ones especially the ones in Brazil

2024


01:38:54,969 --> 01:39:01,989sometimes they would grab people using

202501:38:57,559 --> 01:39:07,248grappling hooks sometimes be a red beam

202601:39:01,988 --> 01:39:10,308that would suspend animate the person

202701:39:07,248 --> 01:39:12,828and the green beam would actually be

202801:39:10,309 --> 01:39:16,189lazing through the flesh one particular

202901:39:12,828 --> 01:39:19,248case in the 50s were a wife actually

203001:39:16,189 --> 01:39:22,789witnessed watched as her husband melted

203101:39:19,248 --> 01:39:25,908like a candle in front of her and over

203201:39:22,788 --> 01:39:27,679time people going outside for a smoke or

203301:39:25,908 --> 01:39:30,488whatever would stop going outside

203401:39:27,679 --> 01:39:32,569because the moment they'd be outside

203501:39:30,488 --> 01:39:34,638smoking a cigarette or whatever there's

203601:39:32,569 --> 01:39:36,849UFOs would swoop right down and try to

203701:39:34,639 --> 01:39:39,260grab them

203801:39:36,849 --> 01:39:42,649


the thing that I'm finding which is

203901:39:39,260 --> 01:39:45,289really weird is that it seems like the

204001:39:42,649 --> 01:39:48,280earth has been divvied up in different

204101:39:45,288 --> 01:39:51,349sections by different alien factions

204201:39:48,279 --> 01:39:54,168like in Europe you'll have the Nordiques

204301:39:51,349 --> 01:39:56,239looking type or lady and some peoples of

204401:39:54,168 --> 01:39:59,948God calling the Pleiadians they're the

204501:39:56,238 --> 01:40:02,658most human looking of all the species in

204601:39:59,948 --> 01:40:04,638Brazil you have more the reptilian type

204701:40:02,658 --> 01:40:08,388that seemed to be the more aggressive

204801:40:04,639 --> 01:40:11,538ones in the States in Canada you got the

204901:40:08,389 --> 01:40:15,949little greys then you got a variation

205001:40:11,538 --> 01:40:18,228and that was another one idea that I had

205101:40:15,948 --> 01:40:20,628for the website which was not being

205201:40:18,229 --> 01:40:23,809depicted anywhere else on any other


205301:40:20,628 --> 01:40:27,399website I said I mean first of all how

205401:40:23,809 --> 01:40:33,229many alien species or alien sketches of

205501:40:27,399 --> 01:40:36,679beings that were seen are there and can

205601:40:33,229 --> 01:40:39,530I just separate them from the ones that

205701:40:36,679 --> 01:40:43,010are performing the abductions so I've

205801:40:39,529 --> 01:40:44,798done that too so using different books

205901:40:43,010 --> 01:40:47,239like a large collection of books

206001:40:44,798 --> 01:40:51,048including some of the stuff put together

206101:40:47,238 --> 01:40:54,618by Linda Howe and the thing is I had

206201:40:51,048 --> 01:40:58,279already done this stuff like on the

206301:40:54,618 --> 01:41:01,028website by but I recently officially got

206401:40:58,279 --> 01:41:03,979her permission so use whatever you have

206501:41:01,029 --> 01:41:06,200you can grab for my books

206601:41:03,979 --> 01:41:08,509but as long as you bring people back to


206701:41:06,199 --> 01:41:12,559my website which is like I said earlier

206801:41:08,510 --> 01:41:14,659website earthfiles calm because in her

206901:41:12,560 --> 01:41:17,840books that there was a lot of depictions

207001:41:14,659 --> 01:41:20,680sketches made by witnesses of some of

207101:41:17,840 --> 01:41:23,630the beings that they encountered

207201:41:20,680 --> 01:41:26,600productions but there's also the fact

207301:41:23,630 --> 01:41:28,760that in a lot of cases of landings like

207401:41:26,600 --> 01:41:31,48923 percent of the cases of landings

207501:41:28,760 --> 01:41:33,650worldwide 23 percent included the

207601:41:31,488 --> 01:41:37,309sighting of the actual occupants next to

207701:41:33,649 --> 01:41:39,170the landed object so I proceeded to

207801:41:37,310 --> 01:41:41,660create this one page where it listed 80

207901:41:39,170 --> 01:41:42,98085 different species that were seen at

208001:41:41,659 --> 01:41:46,010one point the military in the u.s.

2081


01:41:42,979 --> 01:41:48,949claimed they've catalogued 57 species I

208201:41:46,010 --> 01:41:51,440have 85 plus one photograph of a real

208301:41:48,949 --> 01:41:54,590one which was photographed by a police

208401:41:51,439 --> 01:41:57,759officer in Faulk Ville Alabama in 1973

208501:41:54,590 --> 01:42:01,159and although the picture looks like a

208601:41:57,760 --> 01:42:06,949firefighter wearing one of those

208701:42:01,159 --> 01:42:11,479aluminum foil firefighting outfits the

208801:42:06,949 --> 01:42:15,559photograph was taken at 10 feet 20 feet

208901:42:11,479 --> 01:42:17,569and 50 feet and I have the actual photos

209001:42:15,560 --> 01:42:19,730that were sent to me by the lead

209101:42:17,569 --> 01:42:23,569researcher of that particular case in

209201:42:19,729 --> 01:42:26,569the States some years ago we lost touch

209301:42:23,569 --> 01:42:28,488because before Skype I was using a

209401:42:26,569 --> 01:42:31,488program called fire talk where you can

209501:42:28,488 --> 01:42:33,349


actually just strictly audio you can

209601:42:31,488 --> 01:42:36,889actually communicate with anybody around

209701:42:33,350 --> 01:42:38,989the world free of charge and this one

209801:42:36,890 --> 01:42:41,390person submitted these photos that they

209901:42:38,988 --> 01:42:43,279they said to me and I recognized right

210001:42:41,390 --> 01:42:45,860away I mean I was I was familiarized

210101:42:43,279 --> 01:42:48,289already with all the famous cases in the

210201:42:45,859 --> 01:42:50,659famous year 1973 which was the year of

210301:42:48,289 --> 01:42:53,840the humanoid a lot of humanoid reports

210401:42:50,659 --> 01:42:57,079worldwide in 1973 before that it was

210501:42:53,840 --> 01:43:00,1401954 in Europe and I said oh my god

210601:42:57,079 --> 01:43:05,449that's the Falk Vil Alabama photo was

210701:43:00,140 --> 01:43:08,420taken by the officer I can't really

210801:43:05,449 --> 01:43:11,960think of his name right now but so I

210901:43:08,420 --> 01:43:14,840have 85 sketches plus one photograph of


211001:43:11,960 --> 01:43:17,090the beings that are seen in Close

211101:43:14,840 --> 01:43:20,750Encounters of the Third Kind reports

211201:43:17,090 --> 01:43:22,579Third Kind reports but not the abduction

211301:43:20,750 --> 01:43:23,979once those aren't a separate page

211401:43:22,579 --> 01:43:26,359because I had to make a distinction

211501:43:23,979 --> 01:43:28,698because everybody's mixing everything in

211601:43:26,359 --> 01:43:31,250the same bag and I have friends that do

211701:43:28,698 --> 01:43:33,439the same thing that's like no you got to

211801:43:31,250 --> 01:43:37,099separate the certain certain aspects

211901:43:33,439 --> 01:43:39,799UFOs the UFO phenomena has several

212001:43:37,099 --> 01:43:41,510several facets and so you have to be

212101:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,460able to distinguish one from the other

212201:43:41,510 --> 01:43:46,310from the other from the other when you

212301:43:43,460 --> 01:43:49,130put it together it makes for one hell of


212401:43:46,310 --> 01:43:52,489a story but when you investigate each

212501:43:49,130 --> 01:43:54,529aspects in on an individual basis you

212601:43:52,488 --> 01:43:56,988realize how much information there is

212701:43:54,529 --> 01:44:01,130pertaining that one specific aspect of

212801:43:56,988 --> 01:44:02,569ufology or you have for research there's

212901:44:01,130 --> 01:44:05,810another thing too which is kind of funny

213001:44:02,569 --> 01:44:08,259when you really think about it if you

213101:44:05,810 --> 01:44:11,030exclude the probes small spheres that

213201:44:08,260 --> 01:44:12,340seemingly are the creators of the crop

213301:44:11,029 --> 01:44:15,618circles

213401:44:12,340 --> 01:44:20,150we're basically studying somebody else's

213501:44:15,618 --> 01:44:24,738vehicles it would be like a Vietnamese

213601:44:20,149 --> 01:44:27,829monkey in Vietnam War seeing a tech go

213701:44:24,738 --> 01:44:30,649by a big tank and say hmm

2138


01:44:27,829 --> 01:44:34,670what the hell is that so we're basically

213901:44:30,649 --> 01:44:35,988studying other people's vehicles and it

214001:44:34,670 --> 01:44:37,639kind of makes me laugh I've kind of

214101:44:35,988 --> 01:44:39,919wondered you know how we have those

214201:44:37,639 --> 01:44:42,920those fuzzy dice is hanging from our

214301:44:39,920 --> 01:44:44,329rearview mirror in our cars I wonder

214401:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,010sometimes if the aliens don't have

214501:44:44,329 --> 01:44:47,960anything like that like a little tiny

214601:44:46,010 --> 01:44:51,079humans hanging from their rearview

214701:44:47,960 --> 01:44:54,109mirrors you know it's like we have

214801:44:51,079 --> 01:44:57,079stickers if there's a cultural invasion

214901:44:54,109 --> 01:44:59,238of any kind that it pertains to aliens

215001:44:57,079 --> 01:45:01,908it's all the stuff we have we have

215101:44:59,238 --> 01:45:05,029bumper stickers we have t-shirts alien

215201:45:01,908 --> 01:45:08,118


faces everywhere of course it's become a

215301:45:05,029 --> 01:45:10,550cultural icon but who says you know they

215401:45:08,118 --> 01:45:13,519must look at us like being oh boy we're

215501:45:10,550 --> 01:45:17,539really primitive and we're the stupidest

215601:45:13,520 --> 01:45:19,070race in the entire universe which

215701:45:17,539 --> 01:45:21,579probably makes for a very interesting

215801:45:19,069 --> 01:45:25,840thesis if you're gonna study a

215901:45:21,579 --> 01:45:30,229developing you know primate civilization

216001:45:25,840 --> 01:45:30,909in in in you know trying to survive on

216101:45:30,229 --> 01:45:33,149its own

216201:45:30,908 --> 01:45:35,948doing the stupidest moves like

216301:45:33,149 --> 01:45:38,549developing nuclear energy and not

216401:45:35,948 --> 01:45:43,329knowing how to dispose of it properly

216501:45:38,550 --> 01:45:44,949you know all all those things so so when

216601:45:43,329 --> 01:45:47,260you see it you look at all these alien


216701:45:44,948 --> 01:45:49,238beings you kind of wonder how come a

216801:45:47,260 --> 01:45:50,260particular race is seen here and another

216901:45:49,238 --> 01:45:54,009race to see in there

217001:45:50,260 --> 01:45:58,329I think they've they've got agreements

217101:45:54,010 --> 01:46:02,170amongst themselves to have everybody

217201:45:58,329 --> 01:46:04,809gets to have what they want but there's

217301:46:02,170 --> 01:46:07,560nothing insidious about it my personal

217401:46:04,810 --> 01:46:10,510beliefs and all this since I started I

217501:46:07,560 --> 01:46:14,980was born a Catholic but I've totally

217601:46:10,510 --> 01:46:16,690totally rejected some stuff but my

217701:46:14,979 --> 01:46:18,099religious beliefs had been altered in

217801:46:16,689 --> 01:46:19,979such a way where I believed that the

217901:46:18,100 --> 01:46:22,270Virgin Mary was artificially inseminated

218001:46:19,979 --> 01:46:24,968which would explain why a virgin would


218101:46:22,270 --> 01:46:28,120still give birth to something or someone

218201:46:24,969 --> 01:46:30,460I believe that Jesus having the

218301:46:28,119 --> 01:46:33,729abilities that he had of able to walk on

218401:46:30,460 --> 01:46:36,000water defy gravity so to speak was one

218501:46:33,729 --> 01:46:36,000of theirs

218601:46:36,869 --> 01:46:41,859it just gets you thinking after a while

218701:46:39,760 --> 01:46:45,340that all of you think you've been taught

218801:46:41,859 --> 01:46:47,769in school may not be exactly accurate if

218901:46:45,340 --> 01:46:51,489if historians of the future were to go

219001:46:47,770 --> 01:46:53,320back now and write a history book they

219101:46:51,488 --> 01:46:55,539would have so many missing chapters

219201:46:53,319 --> 01:46:59,139because their history as we know it is a

219301:46:55,539 --> 01:47:01,689lie and it's been superimposed the real

219401:46:59,139 --> 01:47:04,719history is gone it's been superimposed

2195


01:47:01,689 --> 01:47:07,509by whatever the powers that be want us

219601:47:04,719 --> 01:47:09,819to know as history and that includes

219701:47:07,510 --> 01:47:12,250UFOs all they don't they don't exist

219801:47:09,819 --> 01:47:13,929they're not real and and the occupants

219901:47:12,250 --> 01:47:16,630well he must been you might have been

220001:47:13,929 --> 01:47:18,670smoking a little bit of weed or worse

220101:47:16,630 --> 01:47:21,400drugs that actually do make you a loose

220201:47:18,670 --> 01:47:23,739Nate I've never taken anything because I

220301:47:21,399 --> 01:47:28,179knew getting into this I had to keep a

220401:47:23,738 --> 01:47:31,569straight hand on my shoulders and and

220501:47:28,179 --> 01:47:35,829that's where I I you know that's the

220601:47:31,569 --> 01:47:38,649path that I took and so the reports have

220701:47:35,829 --> 01:47:42,039occupant sightings just like the crashes

220801:47:38,649 --> 01:47:43,569and landings seem to have gone on the

220901:47:42,039 --> 01:47:44,769


wayside you don't hear too much about

221001:47:43,569 --> 01:47:48,639those now it's

221101:47:44,770 --> 01:47:52,000we the crop circle phenomenon taking

221201:47:48,640 --> 01:47:54,460place landings are very rare occupant

221301:47:52,000 --> 01:47:56,279sightings outside of the abduction cases

221401:47:54,460 --> 01:47:58,750are very rare

221501:47:56,279 --> 01:48:02,199although Polly they're still occurring

221601:47:58,750 --> 01:48:05,260it's really hard to keep on top of the

221701:48:02,199 --> 01:48:09,609story if the story is not being reported

221801:48:05,260 --> 01:48:12,250to you the researcher and that's why I'm

221901:48:09,609 --> 01:48:13,569given I'm always given heck how come you

222001:48:12,250 --> 01:48:16,989don't know about this case how come you

222101:48:13,569 --> 01:48:18,939don't know about that case well if I was

222201:48:16,989 --> 01:48:21,010at that point on one time - were I felt

222301:48:18,939 --> 01:48:24,989oh goody I know something that nobody


222401:48:21,010 --> 01:48:28,180else knows and who cares then I realized

222501:48:24,989 --> 01:48:31,229stupid idiot I said to myself this

222601:48:28,180 --> 01:48:34,780information is meant to be shared

222701:48:31,229 --> 01:48:38,529free of charge you can make money but

222801:48:34,779 --> 01:48:42,969money's not always gonna be around you

222901:48:38,529 --> 01:48:44,619know UFOs are and the thing is it needs

223001:48:42,970 --> 01:48:46,869to be shared that's all you need that's

223101:48:44,619 --> 01:48:49,300how that's what you need to do in order

223201:48:46,869 --> 01:48:52,510to have everybody be on the same page

223301:48:49,300 --> 01:48:54,520and I may not agree always with UFO

223401:48:52,510 --> 01:48:57,600groups because they want to solve the

223501:48:54,520 --> 01:49:00,130mystery for themselves or they sit on

223601:48:57,600 --> 01:49:01,570thousands of reports which not nobody

223701:49:00,130 --> 01:49:04,750gets this they don't get to see the


223801:49:01,569 --> 01:49:09,239light of day and if they do well you

223901:49:04,750 --> 01:49:12,039know good example is MUFON and hangar 1

224001:49:09,239 --> 01:49:15,550hang the one has what eight episodes

224101:49:12,039 --> 01:49:16,989maybe and I'm waiting for the next show

224201:49:15,550 --> 01:49:20,770that's supposed to come out of that and

224301:49:16,989 --> 01:49:23,050they have 70,000 case files what about

224401:49:20,770 --> 01:49:25,690the case the case about Tia the

224501:49:23,050 --> 01:49:29,170fisherman who is abducted in his boat

224601:49:25,689 --> 01:49:31,839and thanks to the GPS that yet onboard

224701:49:29,170 --> 01:49:34,750they realized holy shit this boat flew

224801:49:31,840 --> 01:49:37,060overland and he was found two hours

224901:49:34,750 --> 01:49:37,930later in a separate in that totally

225001:49:37,060 --> 01:49:41,260different lake

225101:49:37,930 --> 01:49:43,020those those kinds of cases should be

2252


01:49:41,260 --> 01:49:45,100mentioned and brought to the forefront

225301:49:43,020 --> 01:49:47,320because that proves that there's

225401:49:45,100 --> 01:49:50,410something else going on that's not

225501:49:47,319 --> 01:49:53,679military it's not the powers that be

225601:49:50,409 --> 01:49:56,739doing this it's something that's keeping

225701:49:53,680 --> 01:49:58,650tabs on us and the reason why I think

225801:49:56,739 --> 01:50:02,429this is all linked

225901:49:58,649 --> 01:50:04,319like abductions whatever is because the

226001:50:02,430 --> 01:50:07,409other thing the other thing that I've

226101:50:04,319 --> 01:50:11,269came to be like I came to believe was

226201:50:07,409 --> 01:50:15,269that one particular faction of alien has

226301:50:11,270 --> 01:50:17,970had their hand in our creation and the

226401:50:15,270 --> 01:50:22,230abductions is a way by which they Moktar

226501:50:17,970 --> 01:50:23,909us tweak us over time tweak us maybe

226601:50:22,229 --> 01:50:29,189


getting rid of some of our bad traits

226701:50:23,909 --> 01:50:33,630and seeing what other stupid moves were

226801:50:29,189 --> 01:50:37,679gonna do next and they have a rule of

226901:50:33,630 --> 01:50:40,170non-interfering until fully if something

227001:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,310really gets bad and the shit really

227101:50:40,170 --> 01:50:44,609starts hitting the fan

227201:50:41,310 --> 01:50:47,700then they'll intercede and say whoa as a

227301:50:44,609 --> 01:50:50,789civilization you cannot survive if

227401:50:47,699 --> 01:50:53,609you're divided civilizations don't

227501:50:50,789 --> 01:50:55,590survive by having the rich become super

227601:50:53,609 --> 01:50:58,439rich and the poor becoming super poor

227701:50:55,590 --> 01:51:01,199and there's a division there I'm sure

227801:50:58,439 --> 01:51:03,839the the Egyptians the creeks the Romans

227901:51:01,199 --> 01:51:07,979thought the same way and where are they

228001:51:03,840 --> 01:51:11,069now and UFOs were flying back then too


228101:51:07,979 --> 01:51:13,379so I think this is an awakening it's

228201:51:11,069 --> 01:51:17,130something I can actually propel us in

228301:51:13,380 --> 01:51:20,609the future where we can rely we realize

228401:51:17,130 --> 01:51:24,569that we are better than this and that we

228501:51:20,609 --> 01:51:26,460have a more important purpose then

228601:51:24,569 --> 01:51:30,389screwing each other over for the piece

228701:51:26,460 --> 01:51:32,430of the action and that includes staying

228801:51:30,390 --> 01:51:34,380on top of documents and not mentioning

228901:51:32,430 --> 01:51:35,550it to other people because oh I know

229001:51:34,380 --> 01:51:38,909something you don't

229101:51:35,550 --> 01:51:41,850and who cares so I've changed that

229201:51:38,909 --> 01:51:43,800mindset that I had and I realized okay

229301:51:41,850 --> 01:51:45,870so my websites not making any money and

229401:51:43,800 --> 01:51:48,840I don't care I got a full-time job aside


229501:51:45,869 --> 01:51:50,489from this I'm not afraid to say it I

229601:51:48,840 --> 01:51:53,130work at Walmart I work at Walmart

229701:51:50,489 --> 01:51:55,649unloading trucks but I don't have

229801:51:53,130 --> 01:51:57,510property of warm I've been doing UFO

229901:51:55,649 --> 01:52:00,420research long board I realize now I

230001:51:57,510 --> 01:52:02,670think my dad every day that the place he

230101:52:00,420 --> 01:52:07,590picked to move the family to was a UFO

230201:52:02,670 --> 01:52:09,930hotspot hmm you mentioned about 80 plus

230301:52:07,590 --> 01:52:11,250different ET species that you have

230401:52:09,930 --> 01:52:14,670recorded on

230501:52:11,250 --> 01:52:17,340how did you gather those and are those

230601:52:14,670 --> 01:52:20,250species here for research are they

230701:52:17,340 --> 01:52:24,300benevolent are they malevolent fill us

230801:52:20,250 --> 01:52:27,180in well as far as I can tell I think

2309


01:52:24,300 --> 01:52:29,310they're all benevolent there may be a

231001:52:27,180 --> 01:52:32,400few like I said the reptilian types seem

231101:52:29,310 --> 01:52:34,050to be very aggressive the sketches I got

231201:52:32,399 --> 01:52:36,179mostly from different collections of

231301:52:34,050 --> 01:52:39,650books like specialty encounters with

231401:52:36,180 --> 01:52:42,270occupants UFO occupants from from Europe

231501:52:39,649 --> 01:52:49,829Australia South America the States

231601:52:42,270 --> 01:52:52,800Canada and I just those cases they're

231701:52:49,829 --> 01:52:55,890very rare well they weren't rare for a

231801:52:52,800 --> 01:52:57,840particular time because in the 50s there

231901:52:55,890 --> 01:53:00,030was a lot of cases of landings in France

232001:52:57,840 --> 01:53:02,250and people would see the four occupants

232101:53:00,029 --> 01:53:05,309on the main road just leading to the

232201:53:02,250 --> 01:53:06,930city but I'd be willing to bet 100 a

232301:53:05,310 --> 01:53:10,770


wonder there's still races that are

232401:53:06,930 --> 01:53:12,630making yet here for the first time now

232501:53:10,770 --> 01:53:15,030whether or not they share information

232601:53:12,630 --> 01:53:17,489and say hey come over here we've got

232701:53:15,029 --> 01:53:22,529this primitive race that's that's in

232801:53:17,489 --> 01:53:25,109full existence and developing but there

232901:53:22,529 --> 01:53:26,909must I don't know they met I'm sure

233001:53:25,109 --> 01:53:29,549there's that there's some creatures that

233101:53:26,909 --> 01:53:33,359I think the last report I heard while

233201:53:29,550 --> 01:53:36,119Quebec anyways there was uh it was a

233301:53:33,359 --> 01:53:38,069case that I translated the article from

233401:53:36,119 --> 01:53:40,349England from French to English so that

233501:53:38,069 --> 01:53:41,909English Canada could hear about it it

233601:53:40,350 --> 01:53:44,490was just outside of Montreal where this

233701:53:41,909 --> 01:53:46,680lady was taking her shower and when she


233801:53:44,489 --> 01:53:49,829got out she noticed this brown glow

233901:53:46,680 --> 01:53:53,640outside and she saw two small occupants

234001:53:49,829 --> 01:53:55,079in her field and when she went and

234101:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,390checked the land the next day there was

234201:53:55,079 --> 01:53:58,979pod marks like holes into the ground

234301:53:57,390 --> 01:54:00,930where the consistence here the soil was

234401:53:58,979 --> 01:54:03,959different than the consistency of the

234501:54:00,930 --> 01:54:06,539soil around the site and those

234601:54:03,960 --> 01:54:10,020particular beings it's a shape they they

234701:54:06,539 --> 01:54:12,630had or the outfits they were wearing was

234801:54:10,020 --> 01:54:16,440only seen maybe once or twice before in

234901:54:12,630 --> 01:54:20,100France 1954 and another case somewhere

235001:54:16,439 --> 01:54:21,329else I think it was Italy I'm sure some

235101:54:20,100 --> 01:54:23,000of them are making it here for the ferry


235201:54:21,329 --> 01:54:25,000for his time

235301:54:23,000 --> 01:54:28,550if you know they they've obviously had

235401:54:25,000 --> 01:54:31,550more than enough practice in being being

235501:54:28,550 --> 01:54:35,480a spacefaring civilization than we have

235601:54:31,550 --> 01:54:38,210you know I laugh at the military for

235701:54:35,479 --> 01:54:40,729being dr. ponchos and think well we can

235801:54:38,210 --> 01:54:45,710go and conquer this we can go in and and

235901:54:40,729 --> 01:54:48,439and explore that you know I'm I'm just

236001:54:45,710 --> 01:54:52,180hopeful whether like you talked about I

236101:54:48,439 --> 01:54:56,779think you covered a series of shows on

236201:54:52,180 --> 01:54:59,180secret space program I hope to god that

236301:54:56,779 --> 01:55:03,529the military's not going somewhere out

236401:54:59,180 --> 01:55:06,920there tickling the Dragons belly because

236501:55:03,529 --> 01:55:08,960if the reality was that was that there

2366


01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:11,210were races out there that were just as

236701:55:08,960 --> 01:55:14,180vicious and conquering as the Klingons

236801:55:11,210 --> 01:55:16,909and somehow they follow one of those

236901:55:14,180 --> 01:55:20,329other particular races back to earth we

237001:55:16,909 --> 01:55:22,519would be east easy pickings for them hmm

237101:55:20,329 --> 01:55:25,550and I wouldn't want us to be put in that

237201:55:22,520 --> 01:55:27,620position where we're given we're

237301:55:25,550 --> 01:55:30,469becoming easy pickings for a race that

237401:55:27,619 --> 01:55:33,260couldn't care less about ravaging

237501:55:30,469 --> 01:55:34,520another one and the military think

237601:55:33,260 --> 01:55:37,039they're all that but I don't think

237701:55:34,520 --> 01:55:37,699they're all that at all and that's

237801:55:37,039 --> 01:55:40,909dangerous

237901:55:37,698 --> 01:55:44,059I I have a question from Lynn in

238001:55:40,909 --> 01:55:46,819


paranormal form and I think I have this

238101:55:44,060 --> 01:55:50,060same question going on in my head when

238201:55:46,819 --> 01:55:52,460she typed it out you mention Michelle

238301:55:50,060 --> 01:55:54,680that you believe that all of the species

238401:55:52,460 --> 01:55:57,230are benevolent that is a very huge

238501:55:54,680 --> 01:55:59,659assumption considering there is a lot of

238601:55:57,229 --> 01:56:07,609people out there who are having negative

238701:55:59,659 --> 01:56:11,119et experiences yeah well that may be

238801:56:07,609 --> 01:56:13,609because for the simple fact that we

238901:56:11,119 --> 01:56:15,920haven't been prepared we lied we were

239001:56:13,609 --> 01:56:16,309lied about the alien presence since the

239101:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,609get-go

239201:56:16,310 --> 01:56:21,830the get-go and the thing is we would

239301:56:19,609 --> 01:56:24,500been like I know the UFOs are flying

239401:56:21,829 --> 01:56:27,198around I know I don't walk day in day


239501:56:24,500 --> 01:56:29,930out looking over my shoulder out of fear

239601:56:27,198 --> 01:56:33,250I am more afraid of our government that

239701:56:29,930 --> 01:56:33,250I'm afraid of the aliens

239801:56:33,590 --> 01:56:37,789I would have to see a lot of evidence

239901:56:35,988 --> 01:56:39,468that standing that would indicate to me

240001:56:37,789 --> 01:56:42,019that there's something malevolent about

240101:56:39,469 --> 01:56:45,050here at the some of the bad experiences

240201:56:42,020 --> 01:56:48,650that people have had is the simple fact

240301:56:45,050 --> 01:56:52,099that and for anybody being taken against

240401:56:48,649 --> 01:56:57,579your will he said no no and I agree with

240501:56:52,099 --> 01:57:03,289that but if we're is some type of

240601:56:57,579 --> 01:57:05,359genetic source of material where they're

240701:57:03,289 --> 01:57:07,849here to help themselves get better by

240801:57:05,359 --> 01:57:10,880using the genetic material from


240901:57:07,849 --> 01:57:14,719compatible bipeds and we have to sustain

241001:57:10,880 --> 01:57:18,380a little bit of psychological trauma or

241101:57:14,719 --> 01:57:21,319whatever yeah maybe they could do in a

241201:57:18,380 --> 01:57:24,590more in an easier way without

241301:57:21,319 --> 01:57:26,988traumatizing people and making it look

241401:57:24,590 --> 01:57:30,560like it's an a negative experience

241501:57:26,988 --> 01:57:33,049instead of a positive one I am Not sure

241601:57:30,560 --> 01:57:35,960I mean there's got to be a reason behind

241701:57:33,050 --> 01:57:39,230it and maybe if we understood the full

241801:57:35,960 --> 01:57:42,529gamut of the reasons maybe we then think

241901:57:39,229 --> 01:57:46,158about it and say well okay or no it's

242001:57:42,529 --> 01:57:49,069not okay but we obviously have no powers

242101:57:46,158 --> 01:57:51,079over these beings with the abilities

242201:57:49,069 --> 01:57:55,189that they have and their vehicles to do

2423


01:57:51,079 --> 01:57:56,960the stuff that they do sometimes I do

242401:57:55,189 --> 01:57:58,669wish that there was a God that we need

242501:57:56,960 --> 01:58:03,349to see it and say okay enough is enough

242601:57:58,670 --> 01:58:04,699I'm putting my foot down well that's why

242701:58:03,349 --> 01:58:10,360I put the question if there is a God

242801:58:04,698 --> 01:58:13,158where the hell is he because if I had a

242901:58:10,359 --> 01:58:15,049creation as beautiful as this planet and

243001:58:13,158 --> 01:58:17,719the human beings on the surface of that

243101:58:15,050 --> 01:58:20,449planet I would not want anything of that

243201:58:17,719 --> 01:58:23,599magnitude to take place that would

243301:58:20,448 --> 01:58:26,809disrupt the everyday life of these

243401:58:23,599 --> 01:58:29,449beings there is times I wish I had the

243501:58:26,810 --> 01:58:31,760innocence of my co-workers who have

243601:58:29,448 --> 01:58:34,969never seen anything and do you think I'm

243701:58:31,760 --> 01:58:38,239


whacked I wish I had that blissful

243801:58:34,969 --> 01:58:40,039ignorance sometimes but then I don't

243901:58:38,238 --> 01:58:43,129know what what what I can say to that

244001:58:40,039 --> 01:58:45,889about you know if there's nothing mean

244101:58:43,130 --> 01:58:48,149or or malevolent with these beings how

244201:58:45,889 --> 01:58:53,189come the experiences are

244301:58:48,149 --> 01:58:55,588dramatic or or invasive or you know I

244401:58:53,189 --> 01:58:57,749wish I had the answers to that that's

244501:58:55,588 --> 01:59:01,649why anybody claiming to have a lot of

244601:58:57,748 --> 01:59:03,809answers I think is full of BS you know

244701:59:01,649 --> 01:59:05,729with this phenomena we don't have all

244801:59:03,809 --> 01:59:07,050the answers if we had all the answers I

244901:59:05,729 --> 01:59:09,869wouldn't be doing the research that I'm

245001:59:07,050 --> 01:59:12,208doing or creating the web or how other

245101:59:09,868 --> 01:59:13,738people have written books you know we're


245201:59:12,208 --> 01:59:15,658all trying to get at the bottom of this

245301:59:13,738 --> 01:59:17,908and we may never with their small

245401:59:15,658 --> 01:59:18,529primate brain ever get to the bottom of

245501:59:17,908 --> 01:59:21,208this

245601:59:18,529 --> 01:59:23,398these beings may be millions of years

245701:59:21,208 --> 01:59:26,519old if not just hundreds of thousands of

245801:59:23,399 --> 01:59:29,969years old it's one particular race has a

245901:59:26,519 --> 01:59:33,059lifespan of 340 to 400 earth years I

246001:59:29,969 --> 01:59:35,939mean you can do a lot in that kind of in

246101:59:33,059 --> 01:59:38,819that number of years in that existence

246201:59:35,939 --> 01:59:43,378the bird to us were lucky enough to live

246301:59:38,819 --> 01:59:45,749up to a hundred you know I wish I knew I

246401:59:43,378 --> 01:59:48,358knew the answers maybe is something we

246501:59:45,748 --> 01:59:52,349won't like maybe it's part of the reason


246601:59:48,359 --> 01:59:54,599why this has been kept a shush I doubt

246701:59:52,349 --> 01:59:59,189that everybody anybody anywhere knows

246801:59:54,599 --> 02:00:00,838the entire full story reason why but

246901:59:59,189 --> 02:00:05,159maybe it's something we don't want to

247002:00:00,838 --> 02:00:06,748know we're talking with Michel Deschamps

247102:00:05,158 --> 02:00:10,049a knight on space out radio he's a

247202:00:06,748 --> 02:00:14,578Canadian you apologist working out of

247302:00:10,050 --> 02:00:18,119Northern Ontario his website nou f o RS

247402:00:14,578 --> 02:00:19,799comm that's new force comm if you want

247502:00:18,118 --> 02:00:21,299to check it out he's done some great

247602:00:19,800 --> 02:00:23,998research that you can check out over

247702:00:21,300 --> 02:00:25,859there over a thousand pages he is added

247802:00:23,998 --> 02:00:27,628to that website so there's plenty of

247902:00:25,859 --> 02:00:29,489information to go through you're

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02:00:27,628 --> 02:00:30,988listening to spaced out radio I am your

248102:00:29,488 --> 02:00:35,038host Dave Scott we're gonna be right

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249702:01:03,179 --> 02:01:06,329Dave Scott as we delve into the most

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249902:01:06,329 --> 02:01:10,260creatures of the unknown my job is to

250002:01:08,880 --> 02:01:12,329hunt down the details and bring the

250102:01:10,260 --> 02:01:13,679evidence forward to you these are your

250202:01:12,329 --> 02:01:15,479regular Bigfoot stories I'm talking

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250402:01:15,479 --> 02:01:54,718crypto history or you hear footsteps in

250502:01:52,560 --> 02:01:57,500the empty room above you living a

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250702:01:57,500 --> 02:02:03,090don't be afraid of the things that go

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258002:04:50,489 --> 02:04:55,319your host Dave Scott thank you so much

258102:04:52,409 --> 02:04:57,300for joining us if you're on SHRM media

258202:04:55,319 --> 02:04:59,250thank you for tuning in if you're in the

258302:04:57,300 --> 02:05:01,289space cell radio chat room paranormal

258402:04:59,250 --> 02:05:02,819into the night or paranormal forum keep

258502:05:01,289 --> 02:05:06,000your questions coming if you want to

258602:05:02,819 --> 02:05:09,059call in and talk to myself or Michel you

258702:05:06,000 --> 02:05:11,909can do so at seven zero two three zero

258802:05:09,060 --> 02:05:14,789two four five five six at number once

258902:05:11,909 --> 02:05:17,550again seven zero two three zero two four

259002:05:14,789 --> 02:05:20,130five five six is the number to call if

259102:05:17,550 --> 02:05:21,869you want to ask your UFO questions to

259202:05:20,130 --> 02:05:25,859either myself or our guest tonight

259302:05:21,869 --> 02:05:28,559Michel Michels website is new force comm

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02:05:25,859 --> 02:05:30,599nou f ors we're going to bring him on

259502:05:28,560 --> 02:05:33,420here momentarily I do want to remind you

259602:05:30,600 --> 02:05:36,300beforehand that uncle Jimbo James Tyson

259702:05:33,420 --> 02:05:38,909heads up to floor number 13 to broadcast

259802:05:36,300 --> 02:05:41,789spaced-out weekend here in the cabin on

259902:05:38,909 --> 02:05:43,889Saturday and Sunday night I will wander

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260102:05:43,890 --> 02:05:49,82958 minutes before I disappear into the

260202:05:47,850 --> 02:05:53,430trees up the mountain try and find a

260302:05:49,829 --> 02:05:56,220nice cave to relax in catch my Zen maybe

260402:05:53,430 --> 02:05:58,289a good Wi-Fi signal it's kind of good

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261502:06:21,420 --> 02:06:25,829breathe we're about to bring in michelle

261602:06:23,489 --> 02:06:27,569de Shump once again here on space out

261702:06:25,829 --> 02:06:30,180radio he's battling a little bit of a

261802:06:27,569 --> 02:06:31,679cold so please forgive them for that you

261902:06:30,180 --> 02:06:33,570know this stupid cold it's been going

262002:06:31,680 --> 02:06:35,610around everywhere for the past couple of

262102:06:33,569 --> 02:06:38,369months seems to be getting a resurgence

262202:06:35,609 --> 02:06:42,349to I'm glad it's staying out of my area


262302:06:38,369 --> 02:06:42,349here in the boonies of British Columbia

262402:06:42,829 --> 02:06:49,500mm-hmm let me ask you this this question

262502:06:47,579 --> 02:06:53,069for you Michelle comes from Roz in

262602:06:49,500 --> 02:06:57,239paranormal forum do you believe Michelle

262702:06:53,069 --> 02:06:57,389that Hollywood is conditioning us for

262802:06:57,239 --> 02:07:03,859the

262902:06:57,389 --> 02:07:06,359best and worst of UFOs and alien contact

263002:07:03,859 --> 02:07:10,799yeah I do I do

263102:07:06,359 --> 02:07:12,448although I kind of laugh Wow well I kind

263202:07:10,800 --> 02:07:15,150of laugh yeah when I've seen the aliens

263302:07:12,448 --> 02:07:16,979films and I just thought I'd see

263402:07:15,149 --> 02:07:18,809something like that I say if we were to

263502:07:16,979 --> 02:07:19,888encounter races like that we'd be done

263602:07:18,810 --> 02:07:26,909for


263702:07:19,889 --> 02:07:29,909and no question about it but the funny

263802:07:26,908 --> 02:07:31,710thing with Hollywood is that like the

263902:07:29,908 --> 02:07:35,969Travis Walton case for instance when he

264002:07:31,710 --> 02:07:38,550did fire in the sky they didn't want

264102:07:35,969 --> 02:07:40,260March his beings the beings that he saw

264202:07:38,550 --> 02:07:43,159were different if you looked on my

264302:07:40,260 --> 02:07:43,159website

264402:07:43,319 --> 02:07:49,049Travis's occupants that he saw on board

264502:07:46,800 --> 02:07:50,969the UFO he saw the do different thing

264602:07:49,050 --> 02:07:54,029all he would even didn't even mention

264702:07:50,969 --> 02:07:57,600the fact that he had seen human types as

264802:07:54,029 --> 02:07:59,759well as the little white chalky pasty

264902:07:57,600 --> 02:08:01,800ones the ones he saw weren't great

265002:07:59,760 --> 02:08:04,889because I actually spoke to Travis

2651


02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:09,079Walton before the movie came out asking

265202:08:04,889 --> 02:08:11,460him how he was gonna deal with he the

265302:08:09,079 --> 02:08:14,550reporters because some of them still

265402:08:11,460 --> 02:08:16,139believed that his story was fake and all

265502:08:14,550 --> 02:08:19,110he told me was he was bracing himself

265602:08:16,139 --> 02:08:20,969for the onslaught you look at it and I

265702:08:19,109 --> 02:08:22,679asked him about the skin texture of the

265802:08:20,969 --> 02:08:25,079beings that he saw and you remember when

265902:08:22,679 --> 02:08:28,289he pushed one back it felt like

266002:08:25,079 --> 02:08:29,969marshmallow like almost like fresh bread

266102:08:28,289 --> 02:08:31,920dough where you put your fingerprints in

266202:08:29,969 --> 02:08:35,520there and he eventually bring the prints

266302:08:31,920 --> 02:08:38,069come back up and he disappear and when

266402:08:35,520 --> 02:08:40,440he ran his hand down the other one arm

266502:08:38,069 --> 02:08:42,779


it was smooth as glass but as soon as he

266602:08:40,439 --> 02:08:45,539went up the other way it was like scales

266702:08:42,779 --> 02:08:48,630so there's something there that'd be

266802:08:45,539 --> 02:08:50,760pretty interesting but hunk would didn't

266902:08:48,630 --> 02:08:52,969do that didn't didn't cover all those

267002:08:50,760 --> 02:08:58,500the fact that he had seen human

267102:08:52,969 --> 02:09:00,539appearing beings and and depicting the

267202:08:58,500 --> 02:09:02,908the right color and the right type of

267302:09:00,539 --> 02:09:05,609being compared to these little brown

267402:09:02,908 --> 02:09:09,179skinned wrinkly little men that he

267502:09:05,609 --> 02:09:10,348depicted in the movie the other tendency

267602:09:09,179 --> 02:09:13,349of doing that

267702:09:10,349 --> 02:09:15,349a lot were the beans that are being seen

267802:09:13,349 --> 02:09:20,128especially in abduction cases are

267902:09:15,349 --> 02:09:22,319recurring over and over again they'll


268002:09:20,128 --> 02:09:24,510create something totally out of thin air

268102:09:22,319 --> 02:09:27,688because they don't want to use the same

268202:09:24,510 --> 02:09:30,989model over and over again now for the

268302:09:27,689 --> 02:09:32,789aliens movies something that bleeds acid

268402:09:30,988 --> 02:09:35,488that can burn through any metal and I

268502:09:32,788 --> 02:09:38,279mean you hear the stories about what

268602:09:35,488 --> 02:09:40,468happened at the Roswell site were four

268702:09:38,279 --> 02:09:45,090of the attendants that actually handled

268802:09:40,469 --> 02:09:49,559the body they soon later died of unknown

268902:09:45,090 --> 02:09:51,689causes so you kind of wonder you know

269002:09:49,559 --> 02:09:56,788encountering something from another

269102:09:51,689 --> 02:10:01,709world may have it's it's bad side

269202:09:56,788 --> 02:10:05,488effects but to see all the depictions of

269302:10:01,708 --> 02:10:07,698evil aliens in Hollywood and stuff maybe


269402:10:05,488 --> 02:10:12,779that's what's generating either

269502:10:07,698 --> 02:10:15,058skepticism or the simple belief that if

269602:10:12,779 --> 02:10:16,319there's aliens out there I hope they

269702:10:15,059 --> 02:10:19,079never find us because they could be

269802:10:16,319 --> 02:10:21,509really bad and then we'd have no

269902:10:19,078 --> 02:10:23,759defenses against it you know and I

270002:10:21,510 --> 02:10:27,030believe that too I mean whatever we've

270102:10:23,760 --> 02:10:29,399got our weapons you could train it on

270202:10:27,029 --> 02:10:30,958certain UFOs but you couldn't knock them

270302:10:29,399 --> 02:10:34,289all out of the sky like you see in the

270402:10:30,958 --> 02:10:39,179movies so it's a false image of what

270502:10:34,288 --> 02:10:40,828reality would be like all around but I'm

270602:10:39,179 --> 02:10:43,949glad that there's documentaries being

270702:10:40,828 --> 02:10:48,509made as well and I wish they would bring

2708


02:10:43,948 --> 02:10:52,248more documentaries or docudramas to the

270902:10:48,510 --> 02:10:56,099forefront depicting a closer to reality

271002:10:52,248 --> 02:10:57,988image of what it's like by listening to

271102:10:56,099 --> 02:11:01,439people that have seen UFOs or

271202:10:57,988 --> 02:11:06,718encountered the beings has been a crash

271302:11:01,439 --> 02:11:10,289sites but you know it's retaining as

271402:11:06,719 --> 02:11:11,519well and we seem to be full of different

271502:11:10,288 --> 02:11:13,738things that entertain us

271602:11:11,519 --> 02:11:15,628so we're distracted from what's really

271702:11:13,738 --> 02:11:18,928going on behind the scenes we got cell

271802:11:15,628 --> 02:11:21,118phones we got hockey games baseball all

271902:11:18,929 --> 02:11:22,979these things just like back in the Roman

272002:11:21,118 --> 02:11:23,219times when they had the Roman games they

272102:11:22,979 --> 02:11:25,380go

272202:11:23,219 --> 02:11:27,359


leaders and while the people were

272302:11:25,380 --> 02:11:29,788entertained watching that the

272402:11:27,359 --> 02:11:31,828politicians were doing stuff that they

272502:11:29,788 --> 02:11:35,158couldn't even have thought of you know

272602:11:31,828 --> 02:11:40,349like stealing money or whatever becoming

272702:11:35,158 --> 02:11:43,679richer so it's all it's all diversionary

272802:11:40,349 --> 02:11:47,219and and it's fun for a while but when

272902:11:43,679 --> 02:11:49,979you realize maybe what's the underlying

273002:11:47,219 --> 02:11:53,099reason why it's there for then you

273102:11:49,979 --> 02:11:56,130realize yeah you wish there was more

273202:11:53,099 --> 02:12:01,849reality based stuff compared to the

273302:11:56,130 --> 02:12:01,849Hollywood iced bastardized created stuff

273402:12:02,149 --> 02:12:06,598Bill Cardwell in paranormal into the

273502:12:05,130 --> 02:12:08,849night and we got to watch out for him

273602:12:06,599 --> 02:12:14,010because he's a Toronto Maple Leafs fan


273702:12:08,849 --> 02:12:19,319oh yeah I know I know you know still

273802:12:14,010 --> 02:12:21,389bleeding blue from 1967 bill is asking

273902:12:19,319 --> 02:12:23,728do you think that even if full

274002:12:21,389 --> 02:12:26,069disclosure was to happen that the

274102:12:23,729 --> 02:12:27,809average person would believe it after so

274202:12:26,069 --> 02:12:29,880many years of false stories by the

274302:12:27,809 --> 02:12:34,940government and militaries of around the

274402:12:29,880 --> 02:12:38,819world oh that's a good question because

274502:12:34,939 --> 02:12:41,368what's been shocking me lately is the

274602:12:38,819 --> 02:12:42,779fact that people are doubting that we

274702:12:41,368 --> 02:12:47,368even went to the moon

274802:12:42,779 --> 02:12:50,038and there's actually a guy at work I

274902:12:47,368 --> 02:12:53,210thought for sure he was joking but

275002:12:50,038 --> 02:12:57,538Bernie not he believes the earth is flat


275102:12:53,210 --> 02:13:00,989the earth is flat and he wants me to get

275202:12:57,538 --> 02:13:03,359him a real picture of the earth from

275302:13:00,988 --> 02:13:08,538space or from the moon that's not been

275402:13:03,359 --> 02:13:13,049CG I'd say you know what nasa nasa has

275502:13:08,538 --> 02:13:16,050doctored film but it's basically to take

275602:13:13,050 --> 02:13:17,670ufos out of the pictures see people

275702:13:16,050 --> 02:13:20,639thought the pictures are being fed

275802:13:17,670 --> 02:13:23,158directly from the moon shots down to

275902:13:20,639 --> 02:13:26,219earth but they're being processed at the

276002:13:23,158 --> 02:13:28,078NSA office were there's a team that is

276102:13:26,219 --> 02:13:30,809there specifically to remove any

276202:13:28,078 --> 02:13:34,978anomalies from the photos before they're

276302:13:30,809 --> 02:13:36,979sold to the public that and the

276402:13:34,979 --> 02:13:40,219combination of that plus the movie

2765


02:13:36,979 --> 02:13:43,670for corn one which was the fake landing

276602:13:40,219 --> 02:13:45,649on Mars and then subsequent murder of

276702:13:43,670 --> 02:13:47,809the astronauts who they couldn't let out

276802:13:45,649 --> 02:13:50,719because they would have told the story

276902:13:47,809 --> 02:13:55,130that everything was faked and shot at a

277002:13:50,719 --> 02:13:58,998studio that was is what I think got

277102:13:55,130 --> 02:14:01,569people believing that the entire Apollo

277202:13:58,998 --> 02:14:08,988mission was faked

277302:14:01,569 --> 02:14:11,509so to go back to your question I think

277402:14:08,988 --> 02:14:14,928that there's totally people that won't

277502:14:11,510 --> 02:14:18,050believe that aliens are real no more

277602:14:14,929 --> 02:14:21,139than the 5% of the population still

277702:14:18,050 --> 02:14:24,050think never went to the moon mm-hmm

277802:14:21,139 --> 02:14:26,389you know or flat earth I'm not buying

277902:14:24,050 --> 02:14:29,029


that one I'm not buying the flieth earth

278002:14:26,389 --> 02:14:32,029thing I do want to have someone on about

278102:14:29,029 --> 02:14:36,349that but that's one I just I shake my

278202:14:32,029 --> 02:14:38,359head over a little bit Karen in the

278302:14:36,349 --> 02:14:41,389space out radio chat room wants to know

278402:14:38,359 --> 02:14:43,308because of all your et experiences and

278502:14:41,389 --> 02:14:47,809research that you do what kind of blood

278602:14:43,309 --> 02:14:51,079type do you have are you rh as far as i

278702:14:47,809 --> 02:14:53,090know i'm not no and I've never been

278802:14:51,078 --> 02:15:00,109abducted I've never seen the occupants

278902:14:53,090 --> 02:15:02,630all I've seen was UFOs and and things

279002:15:00,109 --> 02:15:05,179that definitely would not fall within

279102:15:02,630 --> 02:15:07,998the category of man-made objects or

279202:15:05,179 --> 02:15:10,609astronomical because I've looked at the

279302:15:07,998 --> 02:15:12,559skies since I was a young kid and I'm


279402:15:10,609 --> 02:15:14,359not into sports I'm not inside watching

279502:15:12,559 --> 02:15:16,969Monday Night Football I'm outside

279602:15:14,359 --> 02:15:19,639playing and looking at the sky and once

279702:15:16,969 --> 02:15:22,908I started watching seeing UFOs a lot of

279802:15:19,639 --> 02:15:29,029times when I least expected it my eyes

279902:15:22,908 --> 02:15:30,828got opened I was awakened and then but

280002:15:29,029 --> 02:15:32,029yeah that's been said before you've had

280102:15:30,828 --> 02:15:34,158so many sightings you must have been

280202:15:32,029 --> 02:15:37,038abducted as I'm so meticulous that's

280302:15:34,158 --> 02:15:38,929looking at time I think in my entire

280402:15:37,038 --> 02:15:41,618existence I think is only one day that I

280502:15:38,929 --> 02:15:43,519totally lost and I don't know why but I

280602:15:41,618 --> 02:15:47,808never took drugs

280702:15:43,519 --> 02:15:50,269I had my thyroid removed because I'm a


280802:15:47,809 --> 02:15:50,720non-cancerous tumor in 1986 so I take

280902:15:50,269 --> 02:15:55,039pills

281002:15:50,720 --> 02:15:57,440that but I never smoked pot never never

281102:15:55,039 --> 02:15:59,750did any drugs

281202:15:57,439 --> 02:16:02,089I have lower back problems and I said

281302:15:59,750 --> 02:16:04,640well no I have enough problems physical

281402:16:02,090 --> 02:16:07,850problems I don't need anything else and

281502:16:04,640 --> 02:16:09,380to deal with UFOs and then to report to

281602:16:07,850 --> 02:16:14,690the public in the media what I've

281702:16:09,380 --> 02:16:17,150learned I need to be totally there a

281802:16:14,689 --> 02:16:23,119hundred percent physically mentally

281902:16:17,149 --> 02:16:26,029intellectually and I don't know hey I

282002:16:23,119 --> 02:16:27,619know that it's changed me and because

282102:16:26,029 --> 02:16:30,649the flood gates have been opened I can't

2822


02:16:27,619 --> 02:16:34,100I can't shut them back I can't there's

282302:16:30,649 --> 02:16:36,199no way and I have stopped skywatching

282402:16:34,100 --> 02:16:40,130per se like I haven't even created a

282502:16:36,200 --> 02:16:42,760group yet there's mention of of starting

282602:16:40,129 --> 02:16:45,500a group that goes out and sky watches

282702:16:42,760 --> 02:16:46,940but I leave it to the skeptics to have

282802:16:45,500 --> 02:16:48,680their own styling because I've had

282902:16:46,940 --> 02:16:53,030enough sightings I know they're there I

283002:16:48,680 --> 02:16:55,190don't doubt it anymore and maybe that

283102:16:53,030 --> 02:16:57,110one day that I'll change for everybody

283202:16:55,190 --> 02:16:59,659else but I'm sure there will be people

283302:16:57,110 --> 02:17:03,890in in the wings that will be totally

283402:16:59,659 --> 02:17:10,219skeptical against all all that just like

283502:17:03,889 --> 02:17:13,069yeah have you ever seen an alien no but

283602:17:10,219 --> 02:17:16,549


I know someone who has like I said my

283702:17:13,069 --> 02:17:18,409friend Minko he encountered one in 1975

283802:17:16,549 --> 02:17:21,229I have the audio story actually if you

283902:17:18,409 --> 02:17:23,780go on my audio clips page the very first

284002:17:21,229 --> 02:17:25,520picture there is Don Campbell worked at

284102:17:23,780 --> 02:17:27,140Inc oh there's a couple interesting

284202:17:25,520 --> 02:17:29,270stories were him and his wife were

284302:17:27,139 --> 02:17:31,149coming back from his mother's place for

284402:17:29,270 --> 02:17:34,579supper

284502:17:31,149 --> 02:17:36,949this is 1975 he had just built he was

284602:17:34,579 --> 02:17:38,690building his new home there's only three

284702:17:36,950 --> 02:17:41,630homes there at that time now it's all

284802:17:38,690 --> 02:17:43,819high-level doctors and in Co retirees

284902:17:41,629 --> 02:17:45,949that live in it and everything's named

285002:17:43,819 --> 02:17:49,159after a spatial objects


285102:17:45,950 --> 02:17:52,850he lives on Telstar Avenue does a

285202:17:49,159 --> 02:17:55,700Telstar satellite just galaxy court so

285302:17:52,850 --> 02:17:59,899he lives in that area and coming back

285402:17:55,700 --> 02:18:03,050home here does that a come here comes

285502:17:59,899 --> 02:18:04,069this fancy looking car like it's 1975

285602:18:03,049 --> 02:18:06,429this car

285702:18:04,069 --> 02:18:10,099just looked like its out of place and

285802:18:06,429 --> 02:18:11,809behind the wheel is this creature with

285902:18:10,099 --> 02:18:13,639what looked like a wig on his head

286002:18:11,809 --> 02:18:15,829gloves on its hands because he could see

286102:18:13,638 --> 02:18:19,069the hands on the steering wheel but the

286202:18:15,829 --> 02:18:22,940car is kind of near ey a really weird

286302:18:19,069 --> 02:18:24,920eerie white glow to it and he doubled

286402:18:22,940 --> 02:18:26,450back it followed them back up the hill


286502:18:24,920 --> 02:18:30,260towards there where they were building

286602:18:26,450 --> 02:18:32,030their house and he was bowling with a

286702:18:30,260 --> 02:18:35,750couple of police constables and their

286802:18:32,030 --> 02:18:37,520wives and he was also calculating in

286902:18:35,750 --> 02:18:40,218lumber that he needed for his house to

287002:18:37,520 --> 02:18:42,139be built so he took down this

287102:18:40,218 --> 02:18:44,089license-plate number that was on this

287202:18:42,138 --> 02:18:46,759vehicle that he saw and he walked

287302:18:44,090 --> 02:18:48,290outside of his own car he could not hear

287402:18:46,760 --> 02:18:50,899a sound coming off the engine

287502:18:48,290 --> 02:18:52,820his wife almost passed out so he went

287602:18:50,899 --> 02:18:56,690around quickly to catch his wife in his

287702:18:52,819 --> 02:18:59,388arms as this vehicle passes by the

287802:18:56,690 --> 02:19:02,210creature behind the wheel turned its

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02:18:59,388 --> 02:19:04,699head like a Robin looking at them and

288002:19:02,209 --> 02:19:07,339apparently she received his wife

288102:19:04,700 --> 02:19:10,250received a telepathic message and she

288202:19:07,340 --> 02:19:12,380fainted he wanted to chase after it

288302:19:10,250 --> 02:19:14,170after but she says no it was a weird of

288402:19:12,379 --> 02:19:18,589all the abduction stories and whatever

288502:19:14,170 --> 02:19:21,440anyways he says well I can't mention the

288602:19:18,590 --> 02:19:23,000alien stuff in a car do the police

288702:19:21,440 --> 02:19:24,530officer friends so he says I'll come up

288802:19:23,000 --> 02:19:26,809with a story that a drunk driver got

288902:19:24,530 --> 02:19:29,810into my lane so he gives him the

289002:19:26,809 --> 02:19:35,329license-plate number they did a complete

289102:19:29,809 --> 02:19:39,409background check in 1975 Fla 600 did not

289202:19:35,329 --> 02:19:41,239exist as a license plate number and so

289302:19:39,409 --> 02:19:43,968


that was one story the other one is I

289402:19:41,239 --> 02:19:46,569mentioned earlier a Pan Am and the only

289502:19:43,968 --> 02:19:49,520guy from work that actually believed him

289602:19:46,569 --> 02:19:52,219saw this UFO hovering a few hundred

289702:19:49,521 --> 02:19:54,800yards few a few hundred feet away I

289802:19:52,219 --> 02:19:57,319guess whatever and he has a 600 bar

289902:19:54,799 --> 02:20:01,189telescope and he zoomed right into one

290002:19:57,319 --> 02:20:04,639of the portals and on board the craft he

290102:20:01,190 --> 02:20:07,040saw five beings four were dressed in

290202:20:04,639 --> 02:20:10,010silver the fifth one was dressed in

290302:20:07,040 --> 02:20:11,870black yes who was a leader behind them

290402:20:10,010 --> 02:20:13,750was control panels with all these lights

290502:20:11,870 --> 02:20:16,540flickering off lon

290602:20:13,750 --> 02:20:18,639beings were standing and he saw that and

290702:20:16,540 --> 02:20:20,800he watched he he says my buddy was


290802:20:18,639 --> 02:20:22,420almost swallowing his cigarette when he

290902:20:20,799 --> 02:20:24,819was watching that and now those two

291002:20:22,420 --> 02:20:29,860stories are on audio on my audio clips

291102:20:24,819 --> 02:20:32,500page and Eocene stuff where or when UFO

291202:20:29,860 --> 02:20:34,420- UFOs took their time one after the

291302:20:32,500 --> 02:20:37,780other sucking up power off the

291402:20:34,420 --> 02:20:41,469powerlines and that is another case word

291502:20:37,780 --> 02:20:43,060who is left to pay for the damn bill you

291602:20:41,469 --> 02:20:46,299were not hair left to pay for the bill

291702:20:43,059 --> 02:20:47,709these UFOs it's known by hydro and I

291802:20:46,299 --> 02:20:50,949don't care which province her from

291902:20:47,709 --> 02:20:52,809mm-hmm they know that UFOs come down and

292002:20:50,950 --> 02:20:55,360suck power right off the power lights

292102:20:52,809 --> 02:20:58,809and then I left with the hill I had a


292202:20:55,360 --> 02:21:03,430guest named Jim Thomas on a couple of

292302:20:58,809 --> 02:21:06,789months ago and very often he actually

292402:21:03,430 --> 02:21:09,819sees UFO is coming to the powerlines

292502:21:06,790 --> 02:21:13,090right by his house and like they're

292602:21:09,819 --> 02:21:14,979refueling I will sit I will say this I

292702:21:13,090 --> 02:21:19,270have seen personally five

292802:21:14,979 --> 02:21:22,600extraterrestrials the first one I saw

292902:21:19,270 --> 02:21:28,180was a two o'clock in the afternoon five

293002:21:22,600 --> 02:21:31,930days after I had had the UFO landing

293102:21:28,180 --> 02:21:35,470experience and I will never forget that

293202:21:31,930 --> 02:21:38,50010 to 12 footer as long as I can live he

293302:21:35,469 --> 02:21:39,939was about 200 feet in front of me and I

293402:21:38,500 --> 02:21:43,540was with a friend of mine the beauty of

293502:21:39,940 --> 02:21:48,930my experiences 98 99 % of them I've

2936


02:21:43,540 --> 02:21:51,490actually had witnesses to it I actually

293702:21:48,930 --> 02:21:56,079woke up on the table while I was

293802:21:51,489 --> 02:21:59,409abducted and I had three little gray

293902:21:56,079 --> 02:22:02,709dudes working on me they were kind of

294002:21:59,409 --> 02:22:04,209good I know it said the first time

294102:22:02,709 --> 02:22:05,559listeners probably listen up yeah that

294202:22:04,209 --> 02:22:08,500that's that sounds like he's full of

294302:22:05,559 --> 02:22:10,930crap but if you've listened to this show

294402:22:08,500 --> 02:22:13,420long enough I'd given that and probably

294502:22:10,930 --> 02:22:17,290the weirdest one we just had the one

294602:22:13,420 --> 02:22:21,280year anniversary for I was broadcasting

294702:22:17,290 --> 02:22:23,560on this show on April 20th 2015 when I

294802:22:21,280 --> 02:22:25,550saw something out the window kind of

294902:22:23,559 --> 02:22:27,648catch my eye

295002:22:25,549 --> 02:22:29,779


and my guest was answering the first

295102:22:27,648 --> 02:22:31,459question of the night I put my

295202:22:29,780 --> 02:22:34,250microphone on mute I turn and look out

295302:22:31,459 --> 02:22:37,188the window and there is this giant gray

295402:22:34,250 --> 02:22:42,709head with the big black eyes staring at

295502:22:37,189 --> 02:22:44,420me it was it was absolutely a phenomenal

295602:22:42,709 --> 02:22:47,059experience because I damn near fell out

295702:22:44,420 --> 02:22:49,120of my chair I invited him down and the

295802:22:47,059 --> 02:22:52,068people who were here the other night

295902:22:49,120 --> 02:22:54,079listening in I actually invited him I

296002:22:52,068 --> 02:22:56,779put it out to the universe hey why don't

296102:22:54,079 --> 02:23:01,639you come back for a reunion a reunion

296202:22:56,780 --> 02:23:02,260sighting and unfortunately he didn't

296302:23:01,639 --> 02:23:04,728make it

296402:23:02,260 --> 02:23:07,159hmm you know at least he could have sent


296502:23:04,728 --> 02:23:10,489one of those sorry I can't make it cards

296602:23:07,159 --> 02:23:13,989but he didn't do it you know it's just

296702:23:10,489 --> 02:23:17,449yeah it's just the way it is sometimes

296802:23:13,989 --> 02:23:20,270Roz has a question says maybe that is

296902:23:17,450 --> 02:23:22,310the UFO version of an electric car slash

297002:23:20,270 --> 02:23:28,430spaceship in the story you were just

297102:23:22,309 --> 02:23:31,489telling hmm never know I mean who's used

297202:23:28,430 --> 02:23:32,809to know what if they like dog needs to

297302:23:31,489 --> 02:23:36,109think maybe they were powering

297402:23:32,809 --> 02:23:38,799themselves up he didn't see the

297502:23:36,109 --> 02:23:41,359mothership I mean the one UFO came down

297602:23:38,799 --> 02:23:43,459sucked the power off the lines for about

297702:23:41,359 --> 02:23:45,71015 minutes and the lights all like he

297802:23:43,459 --> 02:23:52,129was he was a I've been to the rocket


297902:23:45,709 --> 02:23:53,719like well very rocky around here and he

298002:23:52,129 --> 02:23:55,608was at a very highest point where you

298102:23:53,719 --> 02:23:58,250actually see the lights and you sudbury

298202:23:55,609 --> 02:24:00,590cos there's old sad brand-new sudbury as

298302:23:58,250 --> 02:24:04,340they call it and he could see the lights

298402:24:00,590 --> 02:24:06,139dim and then that UFO took off went

298502:24:04,340 --> 02:24:07,909straight up five miles up and parked

298602:24:06,139 --> 02:24:10,728itself next to the next the other one

298702:24:07,909 --> 02:24:12,439and then the other one comes down and

298802:24:10,728 --> 02:24:15,019sucks power for 50 minutes and at that

298902:24:12,439 --> 02:24:19,818point all of the lights went out and he

299002:24:15,020 --> 02:24:21,859could see all this so he's not sure if

299102:24:19,818 --> 02:24:24,049they were just helping themselves to the

299202:24:21,859 --> 02:24:26,540off tricity or if eventually they were

2993


02:24:24,049 --> 02:24:27,889bringing the energy back to their

299402:24:26,540 --> 02:24:31,700mothership forever because obviously

299502:24:27,889 --> 02:24:34,068these small ships they I I think the

299602:24:31,700 --> 02:24:36,560small ships are brought here by a larger

299702:24:34,068 --> 02:24:37,909craft even though you may not see the

299802:24:36,559 --> 02:24:42,270larger craft

299902:24:37,909 --> 02:24:44,970it's like those those those f4 phantoms

300002:24:42,271 --> 02:24:46,980in over Vietnam they didn't fly all the

300102:24:44,970 --> 02:24:49,079way there from the States they were

300202:24:46,979 --> 02:24:53,341brought over by with aircraft carriers

300302:24:49,079 --> 02:24:58,829so I think the smaller craft 40 50 foot

300402:24:53,341 --> 02:25:01,370across yeah they they don't come here

300502:24:58,829 --> 02:25:04,171all the way from out there on their own

300602:25:01,370 --> 02:25:07,410but who's to say what the electricity is

300702:25:04,171 --> 02:25:10,171


for I mean there's so many cases of that

300802:25:07,409 --> 02:25:16,460like cars being stalled you know there's

300902:25:10,171 --> 02:25:19,021the famous level in Texas event of 1957

301002:25:16,460 --> 02:25:21,630there is one document I mentioned off

301102:25:19,021 --> 02:25:23,311the coast of Alaska was there was a I

301202:25:21,630 --> 02:25:26,520don't know if it was a naval ship or

301302:25:23,310 --> 02:25:29,039just a regular vessel but a UFO hovered

301402:25:26,521 --> 02:25:31,381over the crew the ship and all the

301502:25:29,040 --> 02:25:34,711lights went out the ship went dead and

301602:25:31,380 --> 02:25:38,340then as the UFO leaves power comes back

301702:25:34,710 --> 02:25:40,920on same thing happened to a house in

301802:25:38,341 --> 02:25:43,950hammer north of Sudbury where I grew up

301902:25:40,921 --> 02:25:47,310most of my time my life in the valley

302002:25:43,950 --> 02:25:50,101which is north of Sudbury and one of the

302102:25:47,310 --> 02:25:51,751documents I have the witness was long


302202:25:50,101 --> 02:25:54,780gone by then I couldn't actually talked

302302:25:51,751 --> 02:25:57,659her to him and his daughter had no idea

302402:25:54,780 --> 02:26:00,870about it but I wrapped him down with the

302502:25:57,659 --> 02:26:02,819document using the document and he had

302602:26:00,870 --> 02:26:06,150actually seen the UFO come close to the

302702:26:02,819 --> 02:26:08,431house the lights would all go out the

302802:26:06,149 --> 02:26:12,329UFO moves away from the house the lights

302902:26:08,431 --> 02:26:13,739come back on so it's like it's pretty

303002:26:12,329 --> 02:26:16,979amazing technology and that probably

303102:26:13,739 --> 02:26:19,771would explain if we could find a way to

303202:26:16,979 --> 02:26:22,619reverse that where people are saying

303302:26:19,771 --> 02:26:24,181rock you don't get footage of the UFO

303402:26:22,620 --> 02:26:26,370and the aliens as they come to abduct

303502:26:24,181 --> 02:26:29,301you while they knock everything out


303602:26:26,370 --> 02:26:33,211within range you know your video camera

303702:26:29,300 --> 02:26:35,341your lights so if there is a way to

303802:26:33,210 --> 02:26:37,829reverse that so that the opposite takes

303902:26:35,341 --> 02:26:41,431place people would probably get evidence

304002:26:37,829 --> 02:26:43,771that way footage of the actual beings

304102:26:41,431 --> 02:26:47,610coming in or whether you are for

304202:26:43,771 --> 02:26:50,131hovering over their house who knows but

304302:26:47,610 --> 02:26:51,601it it's pretty well interesting it's

304402:26:50,130 --> 02:26:54,449amazing stuff

304502:26:51,601 --> 02:26:57,000because we can we can fly over power

304602:26:54,450 --> 02:27:00,860lines and take power off the lines get

304702:26:57,000 --> 02:27:03,300electrocuted right after that so no it's

304802:27:00,860 --> 02:27:04,950technology is amazing that's right

304902:27:03,300 --> 02:27:07,500I don't even think you can duplicate it

3050


02:27:04,950 --> 02:27:11,940we could talk about Bob Lazar and every

305102:27:07,500 --> 02:27:13,92051 and I swear I believe them I believe

305202:27:11,940 --> 02:27:16,649him hands down and ice-t when he says

305302:27:13,920 --> 02:27:19,530can't duplicate the technology you can't

305402:27:16,649 --> 02:27:21,869it's made with materials and alloys that

305502:27:19,530 --> 02:27:25,771are produced in space or as you of

305602:27:21,870 --> 02:27:27,710gravity stuff here we're lucky to

305702:27:25,771 --> 02:27:30,780produce something with man-made

305802:27:27,709 --> 02:27:34,529materials but it will not have the

305902:27:30,780 --> 02:27:37,500consistency with a durability that this

306002:27:34,530 --> 02:27:40,170metal or whatever they have that he put

306102:27:37,500 --> 02:27:42,209their ships together with and propels

306202:27:40,170 --> 02:27:45,271them across this across space

306302:27:42,209 --> 02:27:47,300we can't duplicate so you know we're

306402:27:45,271 --> 02:27:51,030


we're smart but we're not that smart

306502:27:47,300 --> 02:27:54,899mm-hmm I have a question from Roz in

306602:27:51,030 --> 02:27:57,950paranormal forum he is asking Michele

306702:27:54,899 --> 02:28:01,109what do you think in the movies

306802:27:57,950 --> 02:28:02,730accurately portrays aliens is it

306902:28:01,110 --> 02:28:11,280something like witless Reavers movie

307002:28:02,729 --> 02:28:14,159communion or the Fourth Kind actually of

307102:28:11,280 --> 02:28:17,040all the movies I've seen that were based

307202:28:14,159 --> 02:28:21,289on actual story my preference is the UFO

307302:28:17,040 --> 02:28:24,030incident the Betty and Barney Hill story

307402:28:21,290 --> 02:28:29,070what these dreamer I saw communion I

307502:28:24,030 --> 02:28:30,721have it yeah the the beings II

307602:28:29,069 --> 02:28:33,209encountered were kind of different

307702:28:30,720 --> 02:28:37,590especially the blue-skinned one with the

307802:28:33,209 --> 02:28:40,039little parkas but not to say that it's


307902:28:37,590 --> 02:28:44,250never happened somebody else before you

308002:28:40,040 --> 02:28:47,420know it's there's similarities but

308102:28:44,250 --> 02:28:50,101there's differences at the same time

308202:28:47,420 --> 02:28:55,290Travis Walton story in the furnace guy

308302:28:50,101 --> 02:28:58,590movie yeah the rendition was were it was

308402:28:55,290 --> 02:29:01,261not as accurate might so far the one

308502:28:58,590 --> 02:29:03,720movie that stuck to the actual story was

308602:29:01,261 --> 02:29:04,940the Betty and Barney Hill story the

308702:29:03,720 --> 02:29:07,159movie was

308802:29:04,940 --> 02:29:12,860mainly 1975 and it was called the UFO

308902:29:07,159 --> 02:29:18,200incident and I wish they had more I wish

309002:29:12,860 --> 02:29:21,650they had more more more productions that

309102:29:18,200 --> 02:29:23,600actually could be based on more than

309202:29:21,649 --> 02:29:25,549based more than based because usually


309302:29:23,600 --> 02:29:28,670they say based on this based on that

309402:29:25,549 --> 02:29:30,649yeah but how how much what's the

309502:29:28,670 --> 02:29:33,530percentage of the actual film that's

309602:29:30,649 --> 02:29:35,539based on an actual account you know I

309702:29:33,530 --> 02:29:39,950remember the TIA the the TV mini-series

309802:29:35,540 --> 02:29:42,170intruders which I also have and there

309902:29:39,950 --> 02:29:47,300was a composite from actual abduction

310002:29:42,170 --> 02:29:51,920cases I would like to see more stuff

310102:29:47,299 --> 02:29:53,689based in in my garden real cases with

310202:29:51,920 --> 02:29:56,000with the evidence being shown because

310302:29:53,690 --> 02:29:58,700that's what that's where the lack is I

310402:29:56,000 --> 02:30:01,159think people moved all UFOs here and

310502:29:58,700 --> 02:30:03,530there yeah you think you saw one but

310602:30:01,159 --> 02:30:05,379then who talks about physical evidence

3107


02:30:03,530 --> 02:30:08,150you know like landing sites and stuff

310802:30:05,379 --> 02:30:10,459we're still hoping that that Ted

310902:30:08,149 --> 02:30:12,709Phillips will write a book about that so

311002:30:10,459 --> 02:30:14,239far he's the leading authority on just

311102:30:12,709 --> 02:30:17,929like Leonard Stringfield was a leading

311202:30:14,239 --> 02:30:20,780authority on crashing evils Ted Phillips

311302:30:17,930 --> 02:30:23,450is a leading authority on UFO landing

311402:30:20,780 --> 02:30:25,220trace cases and he has yet to write a

311502:30:23,450 --> 02:30:28,760book about all the stuff he's

311602:30:25,219 --> 02:30:32,449investigated and so was gonna pick up

311702:30:28,760 --> 02:30:34,280the baton after he's gone I don't know

311802:30:32,450 --> 02:30:36,770it's the same thing with Leonard

311902:30:34,280 --> 02:30:39,380Stringfield nobody else is looking while

312002:30:36,770 --> 02:30:40,970Scott Ramsay is looking and his wife are

312102:30:39,379 --> 02:30:43,819


looking into the Aztec well I just

312202:30:40,969 --> 02:30:46,279bought the book not long ago Aztec 1948

312302:30:43,819 --> 02:30:48,110a stack UFO crash but then there's all

312402:30:46,280 --> 02:30:53,720these other ones like I said before came

312502:30:48,110 --> 02:30:56,510in Arizona Farmington New Mexico down

312602:30:53,719 --> 02:31:02,170the Gorst Russia then you got famous

312702:30:56,510 --> 02:31:05,389landing at Voronezh Russia in 1989

312802:31:02,170 --> 02:31:08,110there's so much stuff you know we need

312902:31:05,389 --> 02:31:11,389to present more of the physical evidence

313002:31:08,110 --> 02:31:14,210because that would clinch it for a lot

313102:31:11,389 --> 02:31:16,639of people that something left a weird

313202:31:14,209 --> 02:31:17,569mark where the consistency of the soil

313302:31:16,639 --> 02:31:20,329is different

313402:31:17,569 --> 02:31:23,180the analyses have been done and they

313502:31:20,329 --> 02:31:27,920still come up you know like what the


313602:31:23,180 --> 02:31:29,600hell caused this so we're gonna hop out

313702:31:27,920 --> 02:31:32,420for a break at the bottom of the hour

313802:31:29,600 --> 02:31:34,970here it is our final break of the night

313902:31:32,420 --> 02:31:39,559when we come back we're gonna talk about

314002:31:34,969 --> 02:31:42,409intriguing UFO stories that Michel de

314102:31:39,559 --> 02:31:44,600Shop has covered your questions continue

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319802:34:25,590 --> 02:34:30,899world these are the reports I love hi

319902:34:28,409 --> 02:34:32,640there this is author Ronald Murphy and I

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320102:34:32,640 --> 02:34:37,949out radio host Dave Scott the second

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323902:36:13,261 --> 02:36:17,801welcome back to the final half-hour of

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324102:36:17,800 --> 02:36:22,989Dave Scott have my bags packed heading

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327002:37:34,540 --> 02:37:39,369a week to week basis our guest tonight

327102:37:37,120 --> 02:37:42,400for the final half-hour is michelle

327202:37:39,370 --> 02:37:46,950Deshawn his website NuForce comm that

327302:37:42,399 --> 02:37:49,869spelled nou fo RS we are talking UFOs

327402:37:46,950 --> 02:37:51,820action here in Canada I do have a

327502:37:49,870 --> 02:37:56,471question Michelle as we bring you back

327602:37:51,819 --> 02:38:00,220in this comes from Alaska cog and he is

327702:37:56,470 --> 02:38:02,081asking what do you think about Whitley

3278


02:38:00,220 --> 02:38:06,180streamer's books in the new television

327902:38:02,081 --> 02:38:09,280series on sci-fi called hunters those

328002:38:06,181 --> 02:38:13,890really show that the extraterrestrials

328102:38:09,280 --> 02:38:13,891are a wicked malevolent Bunch

328202:38:15,751 --> 02:38:25,280to be honest ii haven't even seen it

328302:38:19,299 --> 02:38:27,920um but like I said before I I have my

328402:38:25,280 --> 02:38:31,280own reservations on whether or not it'd

328502:38:27,920 --> 02:38:33,799be good for us to be exploring the space

328602:38:31,280 --> 02:38:36,790right now because that particular in the

328702:38:33,799 --> 02:38:39,858Dragons belly because what if there are

328802:38:36,790 --> 02:38:42,920races out there that are couldn't care

328902:38:39,859 --> 02:38:45,439less about us being no more than 10 lab

329002:38:42,920 --> 02:38:47,180rats and that they had nothing to do

329102:38:45,439 --> 02:38:47,930with our creation so they don't they're

329202:38:47,180 --> 02:38:50,720


not here for that

329302:38:47,930 --> 02:38:53,420they just do other things because like

329402:38:50,719 --> 02:38:56,090our own scientists they believe all we

329502:38:53,420 --> 02:38:59,389can do it let's for let's do it

329602:38:56,090 --> 02:39:02,239never mind the ethics scientific or

329702:38:59,389 --> 02:39:05,869otherwise so I wouldn't be surprised if

329802:39:02,239 --> 02:39:09,739we humans are like that then there's a

329902:39:05,870 --> 02:39:13,370whole gamut of different possibilities

330002:39:09,739 --> 02:39:16,459that some aliens may not be as

330102:39:13,370 --> 02:39:18,560benevolent as the rest of them or you

330202:39:16,459 --> 02:39:21,349know I just hope to god maybe there's

330302:39:18,559 --> 02:39:22,969gotta be I'm gonna I want to know which

330402:39:21,350 --> 02:39:25,250way is up and which way is down right

330502:39:22,969 --> 02:39:28,789now we're like swimming in a sea of

330602:39:25,250 --> 02:39:32,689unknown and we got nobody that comes out


330702:39:28,790 --> 02:39:35,240of space lands and comes right up and

330802:39:32,689 --> 02:39:37,550tells us this is what is and this is

330902:39:35,239 --> 02:39:44,329what isn't and that's what we need to

331002:39:37,549 --> 02:39:45,949know you know there I guess it depends

331102:39:44,329 --> 02:39:49,159also on the person's point of view I

331202:39:45,950 --> 02:39:51,140mean i-i've never been abducted so taken

331302:39:49,159 --> 02:39:54,619against my will or whatever like that so

331402:39:51,139 --> 02:39:56,920I would take offense to something like

331502:39:54,620 --> 02:39:59,780that happening to me for sure

331602:39:56,920 --> 02:40:06,049and I would probably regard it as as

331702:39:59,780 --> 02:40:09,050being negative I just wish maybe there's

331802:40:06,049 --> 02:40:12,219a universal law out there that prohibits

331902:40:09,049 --> 02:40:16,549one civilization from abusing another

332002:40:12,219 --> 02:40:18,438because in a lot of reports basic UFO


332102:40:16,549 --> 02:40:21,340reports as well as abduction reports

332202:40:18,439 --> 02:40:24,139some of them have resulted in suicides

332302:40:21,340 --> 02:40:25,690some of them have result and resulted in

332402:40:24,139 --> 02:40:30,399divorce

332502:40:25,690 --> 02:40:32,790and in some rare cases a few of them the

332602:40:30,399 --> 02:40:35,709UFO encounter has resulted in death

332702:40:32,790 --> 02:40:43,150which is not very mentioned very often

332802:40:35,709 --> 02:40:46,419and so there's do require too many

332902:40:43,149 --> 02:40:48,399questions and not enough answers like I

333002:40:46,420 --> 02:40:51,879said before we may not like the answers

333102:40:48,399 --> 02:40:54,129that we get from the horse's mouth if

333202:40:51,879 --> 02:40:57,279they were to ever show up and tell us

333302:40:54,129 --> 02:40:59,829what is and what isn't I'm not gonna

333402:40:57,280 --> 02:41:01,210turn to the military for answers because

3335


02:40:59,829 --> 02:41:03,120they may be scratching their heads as

333602:41:01,209 --> 02:41:06,609well with all the technological

333702:41:03,120 --> 02:41:10,690achievements you know building a tank

333802:41:06,610 --> 02:41:13,780and and your or a fighter or a plane is

333902:41:10,690 --> 02:41:16,930way different than some object that can

334002:41:13,780 --> 02:41:19,510split it to five and then rejoin we

334102:41:16,930 --> 02:41:21,760don't have technology can do that we

334202:41:19,510 --> 02:41:24,700don't have technology of that that can

334302:41:21,760 --> 02:41:27,280allow us to go into water and come back

334402:41:24,700 --> 02:41:32,050up and then go into space from from from

334502:41:27,280 --> 02:41:33,940that vantage point it's there's there's

334602:41:32,049 --> 02:41:37,829too many answers not enough question too

334702:41:33,940 --> 02:41:40,000many questions not enough answers and I

334802:41:37,829 --> 02:41:43,000people will ask me well for instance

334902:41:40,000 --> 02:41:46,000


with my website I'll have any any modern

335002:41:43,000 --> 02:41:48,010pictures of UFOs or whatever it's

335102:41:46,000 --> 02:41:50,771because the pictures that I have on

335202:41:48,010 --> 02:41:52,780there they've been tested and analyzed

335302:41:50,771 --> 02:41:57,610to death and they had negatives with

335402:41:52,780 --> 02:42:00,190them modern-day pictures digital photos

335502:41:57,610 --> 02:42:02,280can be doctored now unless I know the

335602:42:00,190 --> 02:42:06,370actual person who's taken photos

335702:42:02,280 --> 02:42:10,620themselves they won't be posted if it's

335802:42:06,370 --> 02:42:13,360somebody I know you know and I trust and

335902:42:10,620 --> 02:42:16,420there'd be no reason for me to doubt

336002:42:13,360 --> 02:42:17,891them I would post their pictures but

336102:42:16,420 --> 02:42:21,069basically the information that's on my

336202:42:17,890 --> 02:42:25,479website is old stuff a lot of it is not

336302:42:21,069 --> 02:42:26,890my own and it needs to be shared my mom


336402:42:25,479 --> 02:42:28,959used to tell me I should make money off

336502:42:26,890 --> 02:42:31,779of this and sell this stuff I said most

336602:42:28,959 --> 02:42:35,469of the stuff is not mine for sale just

336702:42:31,780 --> 02:42:37,960to sell and the documents whether he can

336802:42:35,469 --> 02:42:38,970make money off of them or not maybe

336902:42:37,959 --> 02:42:41,699everybody should

337002:42:38,970 --> 02:42:43,319a right to make money off of them that I

337102:42:41,700 --> 02:42:45,511should probably don't mean anyway

337202:42:43,319 --> 02:42:46,890and a nice binding I could sell them and

337302:42:45,511 --> 02:42:49,140and you know and what they are and where

337402:42:46,890 --> 02:42:52,829they they came from

337502:42:49,140 --> 02:42:55,529I may be thankful I've never encountered

337602:42:52,829 --> 02:42:57,421alien beings good or bad cuz that would

337702:42:55,530 --> 02:43:00,690be the extra shock that would probably


337802:42:57,421 --> 02:43:02,851would propel me over the precipice maybe

337902:43:00,690 --> 02:43:04,771right I'm relatively safe because I

338002:43:02,851 --> 02:43:07,560haven't done that that much of a close

338102:43:04,771 --> 02:43:13,561encounter the closest UFO I saw was

338202:43:07,560 --> 02:43:17,149probably 500 yards maybe less but never

338302:43:13,560 --> 02:43:20,550interacted with me he just did a flyby

338402:43:17,149 --> 02:43:21,959if something closer I've met people that

338502:43:20,550 --> 02:43:25,560have become my friends who have had a

338602:43:21,959 --> 02:43:29,479closer or more intense sighting and they

338702:43:25,560 --> 02:43:32,761they it shook them to their core and

338802:43:29,479 --> 02:43:36,841they became an instant believer I hate

338902:43:32,761 --> 02:43:39,511the word believer I say you believe when

339002:43:36,841 --> 02:43:42,120everything you know is based on faith

339102:43:39,511 --> 02:43:46,801but once you've seen a UFO you're no

3392


02:43:42,120 --> 02:43:49,801longer believer you're you're an or you

339302:43:46,800 --> 02:43:53,310know those things are real it's not a

339402:43:49,800 --> 02:43:56,970belief system like religion at all not

339502:43:53,310 --> 02:43:59,761at all it's not the same told that 20

339602:43:56,970 --> 02:44:02,880times there it's it's making me sick and

339702:43:59,761 --> 02:44:06,601tired and frustrated and that's why I

339802:44:02,880 --> 02:44:09,060created the website Michel what is your

339902:44:06,601 --> 02:44:11,159tank on crop circles do you think

340002:44:09,060 --> 02:44:15,091they're naturally made man-made or

340102:44:11,159 --> 02:44:17,431extraterrestrial made I think their

340202:44:15,091 --> 02:44:21,171extraterrestrial made the man-made ones

340302:44:17,431 --> 02:44:23,851I tried as much as possible given the

340402:44:21,171 --> 02:44:29,460information I was able to get from

340502:44:23,851 --> 02:44:32,551different sources I want to show what is

340602:44:29,459 --> 02:44:35,430


man-made and what are the telltale signs

340702:44:32,550 --> 02:44:37,229and what's the sign with the real ones

340802:44:35,431 --> 02:44:39,511people tend to forget that the real

340902:44:37,229 --> 02:44:42,329circles first of all they're the

341002:44:39,511 --> 02:44:46,591majority of them are real and they're

341102:44:42,329 --> 02:44:49,530created with ease within seconds because

341202:44:46,591 --> 02:44:53,399it's been there's one piece of film or a

341302:44:49,530 --> 02:44:56,881snowflake formation was was filmed being

341402:44:53,399 --> 02:44:59,091and it took seconds in the very same guy

341502:44:56,880 --> 02:45:02,120or a researcher that saw the footage

341602:44:59,091 --> 02:45:05,550thought for sure that somebody had used

341702:45:02,120 --> 02:45:08,609morphe a morphing program on the

341802:45:05,550 --> 02:45:11,069computer and yet the pattern was there

341902:45:08,610 --> 02:45:13,351the next day and these little tiny

342002:45:11,069 --> 02:45:15,931spheres of light maneuvered not exactly


342102:45:13,351 --> 02:45:20,011were the branches would be created off a

342202:45:15,931 --> 02:45:22,980snowflake but whoever's doing it or

342302:45:20,011 --> 02:45:25,860whoever's doing this is not from this

342402:45:22,979 --> 02:45:29,310planet the people that are doing it

342502:45:25,860 --> 02:45:32,069fakers the hoaxers the plants will be

342602:45:29,310 --> 02:45:34,319damaged they'll be kinked people will

342702:45:32,069 --> 02:45:35,911have stepped on there'll be cigarette

342802:45:34,319 --> 02:45:38,729butts because you're spending hours

342902:45:35,911 --> 02:45:40,800doing this in the dark most of the crop

343002:45:38,729 --> 02:45:46,581circle or if not all of them are created

343102:45:40,800 --> 02:45:48,751at night and some places there's no way

343202:45:46,581 --> 02:45:53,851they'd be created there and would make

343302:45:48,751 --> 02:45:57,149any sense people would be spotted doing

343402:45:53,851 --> 02:45:58,771them I always said if the aliens are


343502:45:57,149 --> 02:46:00,511actually listening to some of these

343602:45:58,771 --> 02:46:03,990people who say well I'd like to see

343702:46:00,511 --> 02:46:07,081another one being made well let's hope

343802:46:03,990 --> 02:46:11,511there's one that is made that will cover

343902:46:07,081 --> 02:46:14,310so many pastures so much land that

344002:46:11,511 --> 02:46:17,881somebody like a scientist will be able

344102:46:14,310 --> 02:46:20,700to calculate that hey this could not

344202:46:17,880 --> 02:46:22,439have been made in one single night he

344302:46:20,700 --> 02:46:25,260would have taken four nights and three

344402:46:22,440 --> 02:46:27,091days to create because it's so large you

344502:46:25,261 --> 02:46:29,479only need one of those like that and

344602:46:27,091 --> 02:46:34,681that would close the story right there

344702:46:29,479 --> 02:46:36,751as then be man-made or whatever son and

344802:46:34,681 --> 02:46:39,271they had they have had some really large

3449


02:46:36,751 --> 02:46:41,341patterns there's no complexed here they

345002:46:39,271 --> 02:46:45,871look almost like an optical illusion or

345102:46:41,341 --> 02:46:48,4793d effect and like I said all I always

345202:46:45,870 --> 02:46:52,911said to my friends they can mostly all

345302:46:48,479 --> 02:46:55,591of them be appreciated from the air so

345402:46:52,911 --> 02:46:59,610somebody's directing the designers

345502:46:55,591 --> 02:47:00,670they're doing it from the air and but

345602:46:59,610 --> 02:47:03,370there

345702:47:00,670 --> 02:47:06,069the real they're being done really fast

345802:47:03,370 --> 02:47:11,290to the pilot that flew from one little

345902:47:06,069 --> 02:47:13,029town in England flew from 15 15 20

346002:47:11,290 --> 02:47:15,641minutes over this piece of land there

346102:47:13,030 --> 02:47:18,311was nothing there came back 20 minutes

346202:47:15,640 --> 02:47:20,909later huge freaking pattern was in the

346302:47:18,310 --> 02:47:23,341


same field where he had just flown over

346402:47:20,909 --> 02:47:27,250and there was nobody there

346502:47:23,341 --> 02:47:28,690so the skeptics are over the debunkers

346602:47:27,250 --> 02:47:31,181will tell you a majority of them are

346702:47:28,690 --> 02:47:33,101fake but I think it's the opposite I

346802:47:31,181 --> 02:47:35,620think there's less than one percent that

346902:47:33,101 --> 02:47:37,780are hoaxes and majority of them are all

347002:47:35,620 --> 02:47:39,221real and if you look at the evidence the

347102:47:37,780 --> 02:47:42,730fact that the plants are magnetized

347202:47:39,220 --> 02:47:44,379which is an impossibility the

347302:47:42,729 --> 02:47:46,420consistency of the soil has changed

347402:47:44,379 --> 02:47:48,879there's a sound that I'm an aged from

347502:47:46,420 --> 02:47:52,360the center of the circles one particular

347602:47:48,879 --> 02:47:58,180circle in Manitoba they found a

347702:47:52,360 --> 02:48:01,301flattened porcupine with the quills in


347802:47:58,181 --> 02:48:03,790the spiraling fashion as if they had

347902:48:01,300 --> 02:48:07,539been caught during the formation of the

348002:48:03,790 --> 02:48:09,730circle now you can't do that in one

348102:48:07,540 --> 02:48:12,250pattern in Ontario they found dead rats

348202:48:09,729 --> 02:48:15,220and a horse would not go into the

348302:48:12,250 --> 02:48:17,890pattern and a blind woman actually could

348402:48:15,220 --> 02:48:20,350sense some kind of energy emanating from

348502:48:17,890 --> 02:48:24,039the circles cell phones won't work

348602:48:20,351 --> 02:48:26,290inside of cell of a crop circle tractors

348702:48:24,040 --> 02:48:28,870will shut down so there's all these

348802:48:26,290 --> 02:48:31,271weird high strangeness thing that will

348902:48:28,870 --> 02:48:32,620take place that ought to make people

349002:48:31,271 --> 02:48:35,650think wait a minute

349102:48:32,620 --> 02:48:38,051this is not man-made we don't have the


349202:48:35,649 --> 02:48:40,359kind of capabilities to create a pattern

349302:48:38,050 --> 02:48:42,670in the soil in the grass field or

349402:48:40,360 --> 02:48:44,591whatever that could knocked out the

349502:48:42,670 --> 02:48:48,761power out of your vehicle or something

349602:48:44,591 --> 02:48:53,670it doesn't make any sense one of the

349702:48:48,761 --> 02:48:53,670things that I find interesting about the

349802:48:54,030 --> 02:49:01,000about the crop circles is when the

349902:48:57,670 --> 02:49:03,129bunkers get out there and try and you

350002:49:01,000 --> 02:49:07,209know say that these are man-made you

350102:49:03,129 --> 02:49:10,390never see any paths out of them they're

350202:49:07,209 --> 02:49:13,869not buy a tractor path they're not buy a

350302:49:10,390 --> 02:49:14,720walking path or anything like that there

350402:49:13,870 --> 02:49:17,631never seems

350502:49:14,720 --> 02:49:20,300be anything like that for evidence and

3506


02:49:17,630 --> 02:49:24,200like you mentioned how quickly they seem

350702:49:20,300 --> 02:49:26,810to pop up it's it's amazing with the

350802:49:24,200 --> 02:49:29,890designs that are created

350902:49:26,810 --> 02:49:36,790do you believe then that the designs of

351002:49:29,890 --> 02:49:39,529the crop circles are some sort of

351102:49:36,790 --> 02:49:42,939communication or some sort of pattern

351202:49:39,530 --> 02:49:45,831that that is able to direct energy

351302:49:42,940 --> 02:49:49,610towards where these ETS and UFOs are

351402:49:45,831 --> 02:49:55,069supposed to go I think I think they

351502:49:49,610 --> 02:49:58,161could be both some of the patterns they

351602:49:55,069 --> 02:50:00,081may have like mathematical signs I

351702:49:58,161 --> 02:50:03,081remember when I saw the mathematical

351802:50:00,081 --> 02:50:05,479sign for chaos was a big mental brats

351902:50:03,081 --> 02:50:07,101that have been created there's also

352002:50:05,479 --> 02:50:13,100


these things that Linda Howe calls

352102:50:07,101 --> 02:50:16,911ratchets which seemed to have pi 3.14

352202:50:13,101 --> 02:50:18,921times half a circle or whatever like I'm

352302:50:16,911 --> 02:50:22,640not really good at math actually I'm

352402:50:18,921 --> 02:50:25,601really lousy at math but there's

352502:50:22,640 --> 02:50:27,950definitely something very complex and

352602:50:25,601 --> 02:50:30,381initially yeah some of the patterns were

352702:50:27,950 --> 02:50:31,939made where there was track lines close

352802:50:30,380 --> 02:50:34,760by so then people thought well maybe

352902:50:31,940 --> 02:50:36,440that's how they got there but then now

353002:50:34,761 --> 02:50:37,011the patterns are actually actually

353102:50:36,440 --> 02:50:39,201actually

353202:50:37,011 --> 02:50:41,421in the field that's never been touched

353302:50:39,200 --> 02:50:41,870by anything and so how do you explain

353402:50:41,421 --> 02:50:45,081that


353502:50:41,870 --> 02:50:46,880it's almost akin to this physical trace

353602:50:45,081 --> 02:50:49,431that I investigated on that to an island

353702:50:46,880 --> 02:50:51,950and I have the pictures on my physical

353802:50:49,431 --> 02:50:53,480trace cases page and it's Spring Bay

353902:50:51,950 --> 02:50:55,670Ontario and somebody said well that's

354002:50:53,479 --> 02:50:58,640somebody with a snow machine that made

354102:50:55,671 --> 02:51:02,751donuts or or or a three-wheeler I says

354202:50:58,640 --> 02:51:05,029okay that's fine but wooden made sense

354302:51:02,751 --> 02:51:07,960to put that thing near the well-traveled

354402:51:05,030 --> 02:51:10,551old road where people could see it

354502:51:07,960 --> 02:51:12,020rather than a quarter mile into the bush

354602:51:10,550 --> 02:51:14,479which is completely surrounded by trees

354702:51:12,021 --> 02:51:16,761and unseen by the Traveling cars going

354802:51:14,479 --> 02:51:18,890by and make then it make any sense at


354902:51:16,761 --> 02:51:22,069all to eat so the same thing with crop

355002:51:18,890 --> 02:51:23,511circles I guess people would be spotted

355102:51:22,069 --> 02:51:27,329that means some of the patterns are so

355202:51:23,511 --> 02:51:30,360large and so complex

355302:51:27,329 --> 02:51:31,889I don't know I just it's amazing oh

355402:51:30,360 --> 02:51:34,409they're done so quick and yet there's

355502:51:31,889 --> 02:51:36,209purpose behind them but whether or not

355602:51:34,409 --> 02:51:39,329we can we're smart enough to decipher

355702:51:36,209 --> 02:51:41,849them or not who knows maybe they're just

355802:51:39,329 --> 02:51:43,560throwing stuff at us hoping that one of

355902:51:41,850 --> 02:51:46,760the symbols will catch on we'll catch

356002:51:43,560 --> 02:51:52,319our eye and say oh no what that is

356102:51:46,760 --> 02:51:54,239apparently they had one message they got

356202:51:52,319 --> 02:51:57,779in the field and there wasn't a response

3563


02:51:54,239 --> 02:52:00,209to a message we are sent out on Voyager

356402:51:57,780 --> 02:52:02,9401 or Voyager 2 I'm gonna been pioneer

356502:52:00,209 --> 02:52:06,659I'm not sure and the response was

356602:52:02,940 --> 02:52:09,540brought back in a crop pattern near a

356702:52:06,659 --> 02:52:13,350radio telescope in England and it was

356802:52:09,540 --> 02:52:15,900very specific and that's like wow so but

356902:52:13,350 --> 02:52:18,271it was in the story to me media for a

357002:52:15,899 --> 02:52:20,459little while and then it just went dead

357102:52:18,271 --> 02:52:22,440like everything else related to the

357202:52:20,459 --> 02:52:25,319subject goes dead real quick

357302:52:22,440 --> 02:52:26,880and I always try every through two to

357402:52:25,319 --> 02:52:30,360three years I'll write a letter to the

357502:52:26,879 --> 02:52:33,089editor so that the UFO story always

357602:52:30,360 --> 02:52:36,180stays alive in my community if not

357702:52:33,090 --> 02:52:39,060


elsewhere because this is so important

357802:52:36,180 --> 02:52:41,090you know it could be the one thing that

357902:52:39,060 --> 02:52:44,279saves us from our own self annihilation

358002:52:41,090 --> 02:52:47,880because if we think we're the only ones

358102:52:44,280 --> 02:52:49,860out here in space then people

358202:52:47,879 --> 02:52:52,500automatically think well it's free for

358302:52:49,860 --> 02:52:54,329all we can screw each other over for the

358402:52:52,500 --> 02:52:57,959busy action and nobody else has got any

358502:52:54,329 --> 02:53:00,930say-so but what if that's not how

358602:52:57,959 --> 02:53:02,639civilizations survive what if there's a

358702:53:00,930 --> 02:53:05,420new way or a better way to do things

358802:53:02,639 --> 02:53:07,770where everybody thrives and not survive

358902:53:05,420 --> 02:53:09,750you know we should be thriving on this

359002:53:07,771 --> 02:53:13,230planet not surviving we're the only

359102:53:09,750 --> 02:53:15,629species who pays rent on this planet the


359202:53:13,229 --> 02:53:18,959planet does not belong to us we belong

359302:53:15,629 --> 02:53:22,109to it the First Nation people know that

359402:53:18,959 --> 02:53:24,149and the rest of us are I don't know that

359502:53:22,110 --> 02:53:26,640too we're supposed to be caretakers of

359602:53:24,149 --> 02:53:29,340this planet and we've done a really bad

359702:53:26,639 --> 02:53:31,649job of it so sometimes I welcome the

359802:53:29,340 --> 02:53:34,590aliens in taking over this planet and

359902:53:31,649 --> 02:53:37,239have a welcome to it because they could

360002:53:34,590 --> 02:53:41,190probably bring it back to its pristine

360102:53:37,239 --> 02:53:44,228that we somehow have done away with

360202:53:41,190 --> 02:53:47,020either that or we are their greatest

360302:53:44,228 --> 02:53:50,949reality TV show going on right now

360402:53:47,020 --> 02:53:53,620it's one it's one of the two you know do

360502:53:50,950 --> 02:53:55,479you believe then that they are sitting


360602:53:53,620 --> 02:53:58,180up there and I'm being very hypothetical

360702:53:55,478 --> 02:54:00,969right now because there's a lot of

360802:53:58,180 --> 02:54:04,270researchers who believe that there is an

360902:54:00,969 --> 02:54:08,409ET Council that watches over earth to

361002:54:04,270 --> 02:54:10,120make sure that there is you know nothing

361102:54:08,409 --> 02:54:12,219bad happening that we're not blowing

361202:54:10,120 --> 02:54:14,610ourselves up with nuclear weapons and if

361302:54:12,219 --> 02:54:17,019we were about to they would step in and

361402:54:14,610 --> 02:54:18,850not allow us to do that have you ever

361502:54:17,020 --> 02:54:22,180heard those theories and what is your

361602:54:18,850 --> 02:54:27,909take on that if you have yeah I've heard

361702:54:22,180 --> 02:54:33,340Wow not that three per se but there have

361802:54:27,909 --> 02:54:36,459been times when it's not it's not a show

361902:54:33,340 --> 02:54:41,440of force but they would knock out some

3620


02:54:36,459 --> 02:54:43,989of our nuclear missile capabilities as a

362102:54:41,440 --> 02:54:46,720way to maybe tell us you know word and

362202:54:43,989 --> 02:54:48,340we're such a young species such a young

362302:54:46,719 --> 02:54:50,590race just venturing in space for the

362402:54:48,340 --> 02:54:54,790first time really if you look at a

362502:54:50,590 --> 02:54:58,210cosmic scale I you know we're Bailey

362602:54:54,790 --> 02:55:01,600we're barely we're barely making it over

362702:54:58,209 --> 02:55:05,319the bars of the crib you know and I

362802:55:01,600 --> 02:55:09,239think they know that and there's been

362902:55:05,319 --> 02:55:11,850times when nuclear armaments or

363002:55:09,239 --> 02:55:14,459installations have been knocked out and

363102:55:11,850 --> 02:55:16,899in the clean way where there's no

363202:55:14,459 --> 02:55:20,919radioactivity levels going up or

363302:55:16,899 --> 02:55:24,219whatever and I think they they keep a

363402:55:20,920 --> 02:55:27,819


close watch to that see if if anybody

363502:55:24,219 --> 02:55:30,939out there wants to bitch and wish that

363602:55:27,819 --> 02:55:32,049the aliens had never shown up well you

363702:55:30,940 --> 02:55:33,430know what you should turn to your

363802:55:32,049 --> 02:55:35,289military and says yeah I should have

363902:55:33,430 --> 02:55:38,290never let off that first atomic bomb

364002:55:35,290 --> 02:55:41,020because if the UFOs were already coming

364102:55:38,290 --> 02:55:43,810before them they came here even more

364202:55:41,020 --> 02:55:45,700after you sent out that beacon because

364302:55:43,809 --> 02:55:48,219they raised their heads up and say holy

364402:55:45,700 --> 02:55:50,859shit the kids have found the matches and

364502:55:48,219 --> 02:55:53,408ever since 1945

364602:55:50,859 --> 02:55:55,510UFOs have been here almost non-stop I'm

364702:55:53,408 --> 02:55:57,668willing to bet that at least for each

364802:55:55,510 --> 02:56:00,219day of the year there's a UFO event


364902:55:57,668 --> 02:56:01,930taking place or more than one taking

365002:56:00,219 --> 02:56:04,719place somewhere on this planet and

365102:56:01,930 --> 02:56:06,988they're keeping watch so they may be

365202:56:04,719 --> 02:56:10,028listening they may be listening to us

365302:56:06,988 --> 02:56:11,908and I hope there is a race out there

365402:56:10,029 --> 02:56:15,100that will interest interfere or

365502:56:11,908 --> 02:56:18,038intercede if they see were about to do

365602:56:15,100 --> 02:56:21,279something really stupid that could cause

365702:56:18,039 --> 02:56:25,119this planet to go completely dry like

365802:56:21,279 --> 02:56:27,449Mars or evaporator atmosphere like it

365902:56:25,119 --> 02:56:31,649completely get rid of it obliterate it

366002:56:27,449 --> 02:56:35,020just like what would have happened if in

366102:56:31,648 --> 02:56:36,7281949 or 1950 they would have really

366202:56:35,020 --> 02:56:39,939detonated an atomic bomb on the moon


366302:56:36,728 --> 02:56:43,840like they were planning to imagine that

366402:56:39,939 --> 02:56:46,180if the moon controls all our tides what

366502:56:43,840 --> 02:56:49,139if the moon was not care how much

366602:56:46,180 --> 02:56:51,459devastation would that have caused no

366702:56:49,139 --> 02:56:54,010are they gonna want to find out and

366802:56:51,459 --> 02:56:57,550still want to do it I think it would be

366902:56:54,010 --> 02:56:59,139stupid so I'm hoping that there's a race

367002:56:57,549 --> 02:57:02,559out there that's let's keep it watch

367102:56:59,139 --> 02:57:05,139because we're not that smart yet and we

367202:57:02,559 --> 02:57:07,118have so much more to learn you know and

367302:57:05,139 --> 02:57:09,748the more I get into this powerful stuff

367402:57:07,119 --> 02:57:14,248and I thought I knew some answers I

367502:57:09,748 --> 02:57:17,619realize that I know very little and

367602:57:14,248 --> 02:57:20,260that's that's humbling to a human being

3677


02:57:17,619 --> 02:57:22,199you know we think we're all that and

367802:57:20,260 --> 02:57:24,969we're not all that at all

367902:57:22,199 --> 02:57:27,760we're just learning just getting over

368002:57:24,969 --> 02:57:30,549the the bars of the crib and we're

368102:57:27,760 --> 02:57:32,318exploring for the first time and if we

368202:57:30,549 --> 02:57:34,688need to be put in our place because

368302:57:32,318 --> 02:57:36,728we're not ready to join the community in

368402:57:34,689 --> 02:57:39,520space just yet because we're still

368502:57:36,728 --> 02:57:42,010violent I mean if we could turn things

368602:57:39,520 --> 02:57:44,890around we could feed all our the poor

368702:57:42,010 --> 02:57:47,498people have everybody sheltered clothed

368802:57:44,889 --> 02:57:49,828and fed and still have enough money to

368902:57:47,498 --> 02:57:52,529be rich that'd be awesome

369002:57:49,828 --> 02:57:56,109maybe that's our civilization survives

369102:57:52,529 --> 02:57:59,109


but not by having very few own

369202:57:56,109 --> 02:58:00,790everything and own everyone and have the

369302:57:59,109 --> 02:58:02,710rest of us suffer

369402:58:00,790 --> 02:58:04,090quick question for you before we wrap

369502:58:02,709 --> 02:58:07,419this thing up

369602:58:04,090 --> 02:58:09,940do you believe focusing on Canada here

369702:58:07,420 --> 02:58:12,729that there are extraterrestrials

369802:58:09,940 --> 02:58:15,370wandering around Canada helping out our

369902:58:12,729 --> 02:58:17,049military much like what's happening at

370002:58:15,370 --> 02:58:27,340area 51 in the US

370102:58:17,049 --> 02:58:33,699I'm CFP settled where the pin to I don't

370202:58:27,340 --> 02:58:36,510know I help is a very very is to what

370302:58:33,700 --> 02:58:39,010extent are they willing to help us um

370402:58:36,510 --> 02:58:43,540it's like giving a loaded gun to a

370502:58:39,010 --> 02:58:46,690monkey there may be things that they're


370602:58:43,540 --> 02:58:49,061keeping from us because they know we

370702:58:46,690 --> 02:58:52,480have to evolve at our own rate no matter

370802:58:49,060 --> 02:58:54,640what just because we know their presence

370902:58:52,479 --> 02:58:56,680is real and they're here like from the

371002:58:54,640 --> 02:58:58,181military standpoint I don't think

371102:58:56,681 --> 02:59:01,181they're giving the military everything

371202:58:58,181 --> 02:59:04,300they want because you're be asking for

371302:59:01,181 --> 02:59:09,130trouble then hmm

371402:59:04,299 --> 02:59:13,779so I for Canada I don't know if had any

371502:59:09,129 --> 02:59:17,529help that way and he helped get them is

371602:59:13,780 --> 02:59:20,021probably indirect like indirectly like

371702:59:17,530 --> 02:59:22,061you know like the the moon shots the

371802:59:20,021 --> 02:59:24,431moon vehicles we thought they would have

371902:59:22,060 --> 02:59:26,890had to be like really sharp nose rocket


372002:59:24,431 --> 02:59:28,181type vehicles when you look at all the

372102:59:26,890 --> 02:59:30,489space machines that went to the moon

372202:59:28,181 --> 02:59:31,870they were like little blunt little

372302:59:30,489 --> 02:59:35,760bodies you know they didn't look like

372402:59:31,870 --> 02:59:39,670anything that could aerodynamically fly

372502:59:35,760 --> 02:59:44,590and so who knows what kind of help

372602:59:39,670 --> 02:59:46,989because from the if anything just I

372702:59:44,590 --> 02:59:49,690don't know I don't think they're stupid

372802:59:46,989 --> 02:59:53,649enough to give us a whole bunch of

372902:59:49,690 --> 02:59:57,310Technology because we're technologically

373002:59:53,649 --> 03:00:00,069advanced but her sociology hasn't

373102:59:57,310 --> 03:00:02,920matched up to it so that and that can be

373203:00:00,069 --> 03:00:05,110very dangerous we can have technology

373303:00:02,920 --> 03:00:07,021all we want but we don't know how to

3734


03:00:05,110 --> 03:00:10,900handle it just like we can't handle

373503:00:07,021 --> 03:00:13,400completely nuclear energy and contain it

373603:00:10,899 --> 03:00:15,979properly and dispose of it properly

373703:00:13,399 --> 03:00:19,011then there's no way they would give us

373803:00:15,979 --> 03:00:21,170freely all that stuff in the hopes that

373903:00:19,011 --> 03:00:24,170oh yeah we'll figure it out and we'll

374003:00:21,170 --> 03:00:26,360use it the right way awesome

374103:00:24,170 --> 03:00:28,640Michel de Shop thank you so much for

374203:00:26,360 --> 03:00:30,560being on spaced-out radio tonight it's

374303:00:28,640 --> 03:00:32,209an absolute pleasure to have you on we

374403:00:30,560 --> 03:00:33,890got to do this again when your voice is

374503:00:32,209 --> 03:00:36,739feeling a little bit better my friend oh

374603:00:33,890 --> 03:00:37,459yeah for sure you can count me in for

374703:00:36,739 --> 03:00:43,039sure

374803:00:37,459 --> 03:00:45,439


thank you Michele des shop is our guest

374903:00:43,040 --> 03:00:50,870tonight on spaced out radio his website

375003:00:45,440 --> 03:00:52,790no force.com that's nou fo r s dot-com

375103:00:50,870 --> 03:00:57,320he's out of Northern Ontario in a town

375203:00:52,790 --> 03:00:59,620called sub Murray Sudbury that is and I

375303:00:57,319 --> 03:01:02,181am out of here for the weekend

375403:00:59,620 --> 03:01:05,000space out weekend Saturday and Sunday

375503:01:02,181 --> 03:01:06,920night with uncle Jimbo James Tyson it's

375603:01:05,000 --> 03:01:08,780going to be a great couple of shows

375703:01:06,920 --> 03:01:11,870including two mediums in a large on

375803:01:08,780 --> 03:01:14,301Sunday night get your phone calls in

375903:01:11,870 --> 03:01:16,431they line up pretty quick on that show

376003:01:14,300 --> 03:01:19,159remember you can follow us on Twitter

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376303:01:21,649 --> 03:01:28,190scott sor a website is spaced out radio

376403:01:25,310 --> 03:01:30,319calm all of our archives are placed on

376503:01:28,190 --> 03:01:32,721our youtube channel subscribe to it

376603:01:30,319 --> 03:01:35,229space out radio show we really

376703:01:32,720 --> 03:01:38,119appreciate everyone tuning in tonight

376803:01:35,229 --> 03:01:39,939whether you are in space out radios chat


377003:01:39,940 --> 03:01:45,681paranormal forum or sh our media network

377103:01:43,610 --> 03:01:49,040thank you so much for being with us we

377203:01:45,681 --> 03:01:52,700do this thing seven days a week let us

377303:01:49,040 --> 03:01:57,080be your official one-stop shop for all

377403:01:52,700 --> 03:02:00,381the weird arcane and obtuse once again

377503:01:57,079 --> 03:02:04,370we got Ron bumblefoot fall the official

377603:02:00,380 --> 03:02:08,569music of space out radio he is the


377703:02:04,370 --> 03:02:11,329guitar god himself always appreciate

377803:02:08,569 --> 03:02:13,851your time what else can we talk about

377903:02:11,329 --> 03:02:17,181before we wrap this up I'm heading off

378003:02:13,851 --> 03:02:21,891into the wilderness I got my back packed

378103:02:17,181 --> 03:02:24,829I have my shoes ready they're tightened

378203:02:21,890 --> 03:02:26,279up they are on got my ball cap turned

378303:02:24,829 --> 03:02:29,420backwards

378403:02:26,280 --> 03:02:31,890and I'm heading out into the wilderness

378503:02:29,420 --> 03:02:34,530hopefully I'll find a cave that has a

378603:02:31,889 --> 03:02:36,750good Wi-Fi signal that I could steal off

378703:02:34,530 --> 03:02:39,950Kevin the Sasquatch that seems to hang

378803:02:36,750 --> 03:02:43,829around James's show it's always fun

378903:02:39,950 --> 03:02:46,200always good thank you so much for being

379003:02:43,829 --> 03:02:49,680with us remember do me a favor tell a

3791


03:02:46,200 --> 03:02:51,340friend let them know talk to you in 48

379203:02:49,680 --> 03:02:56,470hours

379303:02:51,340 --> 03:02:59,569[Music]

379403:02:56,469 --> 03:02:59,569[Applause]

379503:03:01,610 --> 03:03:04,799[Music]

379603:03:14,270 --> 03:03:17,408[Applause]

379703:03:17,459 --> 03:03:32,388[Music]

379803:03:32,829 --> 03:03:34,889you

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