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Page 1: Flipping Parking Lots to Concrete – Part Two Philip Kresge Sr. Director, National Resources © Copyright 2008 - NRMCA.

Flipping Parking Lots to Concrete – Part Two

Philip Kresge

Sr. Director, National Resources

© Copyright 2008 - NRMCA

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Part Two Agenda

Pavement comparison What makes the products different Why do pavements fail Realistic design concept

Concrete Pavement Analyst Promotion Best Practices

Making the Call

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Design Comparison

Life Cycle Cost Comparison

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Comparing Concrete and Asphalt

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Product Differences

Portland Cement Concrete Hot Mix Asphalt

Bituminous Concrete Both use sand and stone

How these raw materials are bound together make the difference

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Concrete

Industrial strength glue as binder Inorganic – Does not break down Gains strength over time

Creates a rigid pavement Low maintenance costs

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Asphalt

Uses “Scotch-tape like” adhesive (requires pressure) Organic adhesive – breaks down due to heat, water, &

UV rays Becomes weaker over time

Requires costly seal coats & overlays to replenish this “adhesive”

Creates a flexible pavement Results in high maintenance costs

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Pavement Failure

Not due to # of years

Due to stress of carrying loads Vehicle traffic Heat / Cold

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6,600 lbs6,600 lbs

pressure < 29 psi pressure 290 psi

Concrete’s rigidity spreads the load over a large area and keeps

pressures on the subgrade low

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Design for purpose (adjust thickness) Passenger vehicle parking Truck lanes Loading areas Truck parking (sand shoes/dollies)

Increase thickness Thickened beam

Design Thickness

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Minimum Concrete Thickness

Passenger cars & Panel or Pickup Trucks• 4”

Driveways & Parking Areas (light trucks)• 5” to 6”

Heavier trucks (use design tables)

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How Do We Make an Accurate Comparison of Equivalent Design?

By using structural layer coefficients A relative number assigned for the value of

1” of material Using proper values is critical in order to

achieve accurate output

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Using Structural Numbers for 1” of Material

Concrete = 0.50 Surface Asphalt = 0.20 to 0.44 Bituminous Base = 0.10 to 0.34 Aggregate Base = 0.07 to 0.14

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For Example:

5” Concrete Pavement

5” X 0.50 = 2.50 SN

1.5” Surface Asphalt & 6” of Bituminous Base

1.5” X 0.38 = 0.57 6.0” X 0.32 = +1.93

2.50 SN

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Concrete vs. Asphalt

Apples-to-apples comparison of pavement design should always be considered

Quantification in $ allows for a better business decision on pavement choice

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Concrete Pavement Analyst Uses Customer Inputs Compares Asphalt and

Concrete designs per industry standard specifications

Also compares Local Design Criteria

Provides design and life-cycle cost comparisons

Allows user to make a more educated decision

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Three Different Graphs

Design Summary Graphs Car parking area Truck & drive area

Cost Summary Graphs Break Even Analysis Graphs All Cost Graphs Provided in 3 Views

Current costs Inflated costs Present value costs

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Reference Library

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Reference Library

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Design Details

26 different details

Three formats .dwg .dxf .jpg

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Information Request Form

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Step-by-step instruction

Setting defaults Customizing tips

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Promotion Best Practices

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What’s in Your

Toolbox?

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Concrete Delivers!

For Owners Durability Economical Safe Upscale

Appearance Environmentally

Friendly

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Concrete Delivers!

For Designers & Specifiers Preparing the

Subgrade Material &

Proportions Thickness Jointing Construction

Practices

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20 slide PowerPoint show printed for use in one-on-one presentation

Alternative to using laptop/projector for less formal presentations

Help for the technologically impaired

Within everyone’s comfort zone

Low Tech Pitch Book

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The specifier sees full

presentation pages for clear communication of images and major points

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The promoter views a smaller version of the specifier page,

along with other useful notes and

background information

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Parking Lot Design

Assistance Program

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Sample Design Suggestions

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Making the Call

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Introductory meeting with Prospect

“If I can just have 10-15 minutes of your time . . .”

Utilize Pitch Book Touch on the highlighted benefits of

concrete parking lot The Close – “I’m sure now that you

can see why you should consider a concrete parking lot for your project(s)”

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The only way to

know is to listen!

What does your customer want?

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What are the Hot Buttons?

• Aesthetics

• Energy Efficiency

• Initial Cost

• Life-cycle Cost

• Unique Design

• Sustainable Development

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Listen to customers’ wants and decipher their needs

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Teach customers to want what they need

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Muncy Homes – Muncy, PA Owner looking to upgrade gravel lot Spec’d asphalt paving Team identified “hot buttons”

Low maintenance Life-cycle cost

Taught owner to want what he needs

Owner chose to pay $500,000 over asphalt bid

Initial proposal 550,000 ft2 =12,000 yd3

Owner added 4 acres

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Change Order can be most successful if you . . .

Solve a problem for your customer At the time they are thinking about it Do it easily and quickly

Selling Solutions

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Make Suggestions

Use your professional expertise to provide insight Provide alternatives to existing designs Present new technology

Fiber Reinforcement Composite Design

Pervious and Conventional Demonstrate benefit to owner

Quality Economy Safety

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Gather Information

Project size Intended use

Light or heavy duty Projected Average Daily Truck Traffic

Is there an existing asphalt specification/design?

Have Construction Mgrs., GC’s, etc. been selected?

Time frame?

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Make a Follow-up Appointment

Leave behind appropriate Concrete Delivers! Brochure and Local Project Profile (if applicable)

Take info back to your office to work out particulars Get answers to client’s questions Design/Life Cycle Cost comparison with Concrete

Pavement Analyst

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Making the Call

Running Concrete Pavement Analyst Gather relevant info

Count on your Team R/M Producer Contractor Local concrete and asphalt costs Contractor input on in-place costs

Run CPA comparison Print results and prepare for presentation to client

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Give it a more Professional

Look!

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Closing the Deal

4 Easy Steps to Remember at Buying Time

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1. “Tune your Radio to WIFM”

WIFM – “What’s In it For Me?” This is the favorite and only station your

client listens to Know why they are buying Remind them why they are buying Talk to them about how this deal will help them!

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2. Ask for the Deal

You have identified your clients needs You have presented a consultative solution to

their needs Selling Solutions You have earned the right to ask them to buy

your recommended solution…So Ask!

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3. Stop Selling

Your clients know what they want They asked you to provide it and you did! The more you talk the more they think you

are not done providing the solution Stop talking and let them decide to decide

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4. Close the Deal

Closing is about confidence If your client feels you have confidence in your

solution, they will have confidence in your solution

Confidence comes from preparation Role play your final presentation and prepare

answers to objections

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A Word of Caution

Stay Professional Keep Your Promotion Message Positive Focus on Benefits of Concrete Sell Solutions Handle Asphalt’s Weaknesses with Care Mediocrity Always Attacks Perfection!

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Questions?

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For more information Vance [email protected]

Philip Kresge [email protected]

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