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Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq. Vermont Bar Association Young Lawyers Division Mid-Winter Thaw
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Page 1: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP®

Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq.

Vermont Bar Association

Young Lawyers Division

Mid-Winter Thaw

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Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC

v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney (CELA) by National Elder Law Foundation v CFP® Practitioner v A.B., Middlebury College, with honors v J.D., Georgetown University Law Center v Member, National Academy of Elder Law

Attorneys, President-Elect, VT Chapter v Member, Vt Bar Ass’n Elder Law Section

Page 3: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

Jonathan D. Secrest Corum Mabie Cook Prodan Angell & Secrest

Elder Law, Estate Planning, Probate, Real Estate

Practicing for 11 years, in Vermont since 2003

J.D., Northwestern University School of Law, Chicago

B.A., Amherst College, Amherst, MA (magna cum laude), 1990

Member, National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (VT– Founding member of chapter)

Member, VT Bar Ass’n Elder Law Section

Page 4: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

Our Agenda The importance of planning for incapacity and death

Long-Term Care Issues

How does an elder maintain independence?

What are the options?

Medicaid

Basics

How to Protect the Family Home

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Why Don’t People Plan? Only about 1/3 of Americans have a written estate

plan!

Why? Procrastination

Denial

Lack of Knowledge

Page 6: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

What Types of Planning are Needed?

Two Basic Types:

1) INCAPACITY PLANNING

2) PLANNING TO TRANSFER ASSETS

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Incapacity Planning

3 Important Areas

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Incapacity Planning— 1) Medical Decisions--√

2) Financial Decisions--√

3) Access to Medical Information-√

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Second Type of Planning

Planning to Transfer Assets

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Wealth Transfer Plan

Two basic ways to handle this issue—

1) Will

2) Living Trust

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Long Term Care Planning

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Why Plan for Long Term Care? May be a need for care

Protect life savings

Plan or lose everything

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Catastrophic Illness and Nursing Homes Costs are rising: Average costs are $8,000 to $9,000+ per month or more!

You may lose everything and be at the poverty level if you don’t plan

How long can you pay before your life’s savings are all gone?

Page 14: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

What types of care are available? How do seniors keep independent? Aging in Place

Independent Senior Living & Senior Communities

Care at home

Private caregivers

Choices for Care—Medicaid at home

Residential Care Homes

Assisted Living Facilities

Skilled Nursing Facilities

PACE—Program for All-Inclusive Care for Elderly

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Average Cost of Nursing

Homes in Vermont (Oct. 2011) $92,398 per year

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Long Term Care Insurance Planning

You wouldn’t think of going without homeowners or car insurance

Insurance transfers the risk

The cost can be economical and gives peace of mind

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What if it’s too late for LTCI? Must plan to pay for long-term care

expenses

Can plan to qualify for Medicaid

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Our Goal is to Design a Plan to Allow Our Clients to Stay at Home as Long as Possible…

…and to Protect Our Clients and

their Families if that is not Possible

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Two Situations 1. Emergency… (no time to plan)

2. When there is time to plan

Page 20: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

What if a family member is ill or is in a nursing home already?

At the current cost for nursing home care…client must act quickly

Consult with an elder law attorney immediately

Learn about legal options including Medicaid

Page 21: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

What is Medicaid? Financial assistance for nursing care

Do not confuse it with Medicare

Must meet certain medical, asset and income requirements

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Share of Cost - Income Single Applicant

ALL of applicant’s income goes to

Nursing Home

Except personal needs allowance

($47.66 in Vermont) and health

insurance premiums

Medicaid pays the

rest of the nursing

home cost

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Share of Cost - Income Married Couple

Community spouse keeps

ALL of his or her income

Monthly Maintenance Needs Allowance (MMMNA) Minimum =$1,857

Maximum of $2,841

Page 24: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

Summary of Assets For single person or spouse in

nursing home—

$2,000 in countable assets

For community spouse—

$113,640 in countable assets

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Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 Most important Medicaid features:

Increased lookback period from 3 years to 5 years

Changed how penalties are calculated to make gifting to qualify much more difficult

Page 26: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

Outright Gifting

Giving money or other assets away for

less than fair market value will avoid a

penalty only after the passage of 5 years

from the date of the gift

One problem in outright gifting is that the

assets are subject to being lost to

creditors of the recipients or a divorce or

a recipient dipping into the money

Page 27: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

Medicaid Planning Trusts Irrevocable Income Only

Medicaid Trust Parents retain income

Children access principal

Would take 5 years to avoid

transfer penalty

Avoids problems of outright gifting

Page 28: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

Summary of Post-DRA Strategies Medicaid-compliant Annuities

Irrevocable Income Only Trust

Conversion to Non-Countable Assets

Use of Medicaid-compliant Promissory Notes

Gifting to disabled individuals

Many of these may not be available for long

Page 29: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

Protecting the Family Home

Home is the single most important asset to most individuals

Desire to preserve it for spouse and heirs

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Protecting the Family Home Home as Exempt Asset

$506,000 limit to value of home

No limit to size of home or number of acres of land

Must have intent to return home if in nursing home

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Protecting the Family Home

Transfer of Residence

Transfer to Spouse is exempt

If institutionalized spouse is not capable of executing deed, transfer may be through durable POA or guardianship proceeding

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Protecting the Family Home Life Estate Deed with Enhanced Powers

(aka, a Lady Bird Johnson Deed)

• Enables Transfer to beneficiaries or Revocable

Living Trust, which avoids probate and estate

recovery

• See article in VBA Journal, Winter 2008-2009 by

John Facey, John Newman and Heather

Cooper—”Top Ten” Pitfalls in Preparing Lady

Bird Johnson Deeds

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Estate Recovery–What is It? Under federal law, State has duty to try to recover

from estate of deceased Medicaid recipient for services provided during lifetime

States may have different definitions

of what is considered “estate”

Most conservative = Probate Estate

• This is currently Vermont’s approach

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Estate Recovery–What is It? Some states include joint tenancy property, life

estates, transfer on death accounts or property

This is probably the direction

more states will go in order

to increase the amounts the

State can recover

• Vermont has begun to talk

about these types of changes

Page 35: Glenn A. Jarrett, Esq., CFP® Jonathan D. Secrest, Esq ... Long-Term Care... · Glenn A. Jarrett Jarrett Law Office, PLC v Attorney at Law since 1973 v Certified Elder Law Attorney

Estate Recovery–What is Protected? Life Estate Deed with retained powers

Joint Tenancy Deeds

POD Accounts

Life Insurance with Beneficiary

IRA with Beneficiary

Annuities with Beneficiary

But these protected assets

are subject to attack if States

determine to change the rules

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For Further Information:

Glenn Jarrett, Esq.

Jarrett Law Office

South Burlington

802-864-5951

[email protected]

Jonathan Secrest, Esq.

Corum Mabie Cook Prodan Angell & Secrest

Brattleboro

802-257-5292 x 5

[email protected]


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