Bonus Q&A with Holly Rigsby
September 22, 2015
How to Overcome Your Two Biggest Fitness Obstacles: No Time, No Energy?
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Jacqueline: Okay, fantastic. So Holly, we’ll dive right in to our bonus Q&A. Oh, fantastic Ann is saying that she just purchased your offer, I just love it, love it, love it, love it, and can’t wait to…and please do send Holly and I your feedback. [email protected] is how to send me comments and I’m sure Holly’s email is even on the /Holly page as well. www.greatparentingshow.com/Holly.
Okay, so yeah, Levanda says, “How easy is it to get started? Do I have to review a lot of material?” Maybe quickly answer that question?
Holly: Well remember what I said, you don’t have to have it all figured out to move forward. You can just open up the program and just find the introductory workout. It comes with the printable workout log, you can choose to print that out or just have it in your screen. Honestly, if you just go and watch the introductory learn it, A. learn the moves, press A, an introductory, do it, A, boom, you’re ready to go.
Jacqueline: Love that. I think it’s absolutely critical to just get started and to spend a week thinking about it and not do it. And I think this is really ideally a yes-‐no decision, “yes, it resonates. Let’s try it and if doesn’t work, we’ll get our refund,” and just jump in and try it. And I know that for some of us, I actually haven’t delved into the nutrition part much because that hasn’t been something I needed as much, right? But fine, whatever amount of support you need then you go there. Someone’s asking, I think it’s Kiyaba, saying, “Well you talk about PCOS too. I don’t know what PCOS is.”
Holly: That’s not my area of expertise so I wouldn’t be able to tell you much about it.
Jacqueline: Okay. So Brenda’s saying she’s strained her neck whenever she lifts heavy weights and can’t exercise for days afterwards. What are your suggestions?
Holly: I have to see what she’s doing.
Jacqueline: Okay.
Holly: Yeah, straining your neck, I don’t know if it’s your form, if you’re not using the right type of weights…
Jacqueline: That’s one of the great things about the learn videos, I make myself watch them even though I’ve been in your program now for like over three years. I always watch them to make sure that I see what you’re suggesting.
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Brenda, if you want to get some more information, by all means do. Chris is asking about the order of a strength training workout. Do you want to comment on that?
Holly: The order? Can be more specific about the order.
Jacqueline: “Well, I’m wondering if you have a suggestion in terms of,” and I suggest if she’s thinking back on the gym days where they say, “Do your legs first and do your arms or whatever.”
Holly: I already got that all mapped out. You don’t have to think in terms of body parts because I’m going to give you exercises that by the end of 15 minutes, you’ll have targeted your entire body.
And one of the most frequently asked questions is “What is the super set?” because they see the workout log and they don’t get it. That’s why the full Follow Along workout video helps you understand it. That’s why you can even review it. But definitely practicing the "Learn It," and when it comes to scheduling your workouts, because you have a workout A and workout B, you’re going to rotate through those two workouts for 4 weeks.
The thing is, you don’t want to do them on back to back dates. You want to have a day in between your strength training workouts. You can choose an interval training on the same day so you could choose a 3 day a week schedule or a 6 day a week schedule. 3 day a week schedule means on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday its strength followed by interval training, strength followed by interval training, strength followed by interval training and you’re done for the week.
Or, if you’re doing 6 days a week because you don’t have more than a 15 minute block of time, strength training one day, interval training the next, strength training one day, interval training in the next. So I think that’s one of the most frequently asked questions I get even though there’s a workout calendar in there that shows you your options. They just see that and get confused. So just know that you’re rotating through your strength workouts or workout A, workout B, workout A, workout B, and you’re allowing that day between each strength workout.
Jacqueline: Fabulous. So Angie’s asking something about the impact on the joints because she says she has some early knee degeneration, and I know, again, she doesn’t want to mess her knees up and pain more. I know again that is something you
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always give modifications for, but do you want to talk about how the weight training impacts joints?
Holly: Traditional leg training workouts are not typically high impact moves. If anything, during interval training, you can actually go to my YouTube channel, I’ve got 7 low to non-‐impact moves that you could do for interval training workouts. My YouTube channel is Holiday JOI. Yeah, I created it when I didn’t know I had to have a catchy username.
Jacqueline: Yes.
Holly: So if you want to check out my YouTube channel and find those low impact interval training moves, you don’t have to bounce around for it to be an effective workout! In fact, I’ve been doing yoga flow-‐based interval training workouts and the FYMs are like “Oh my G. This is challenging!” So you don’t have to think—don’t associate interval training with pound, pound, pound, pound, especially if you have knee problems or back.
Jacqueline: And I don’t know what the truth is when you’ve got early degenerative knee issues, it sounds like a different thing, but I know that in general, all the strength training is phenomenal for our overall body and keeping our weight off is great for our joints as well.
Holly: This’ll be a good point to say, before you start any new exercise program, please check with your doctor. That should be a given.
Jacqueline: Yeah.
Holly: So if you’ve not checked with your doctor and you hurt yourself, you took down that liability. Please check with the doctor especially for pre-‐existing injuries or, like you say, you’re dealing with something that is degenerative and you need to make sure that you get the doctor’s okay to start something new.
Jacqueline: Perfect. And again, I think it’s great for people who are taking advantage of your offer, they’ve got 60 day money back guarantee, and I actually think it’s so critical to try something because so often we think, “Well, I’ll think about it later,” and realistically I do this all the time. I have something on Saturday that I absolutely wanted and I might remember to get back to it because it just sprung into my mind now, but there’s a good chance that we forget a lot of those things.
So I’m just going through, cause we have a lot of different questions here, one of them that was about…Sylvia says she has a hard time gaining weight and has
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to lose it, and then she stops working out and she feels sluggish and tired and gets into a cycle there. Is that something you can speak to?
Holly: If you’re having a hard time gaining weight, you’re not eating enough, putting it simply. You need to figure out your portion sizes and if you have been restricting the foods that you eat because even if you have a high metabolism, you’re going to eat a lot more calories.
There was a point when I was eating 2200, 2300 calories a day and my body was super lean, but I was much younger then. And my body’s different now, I’m at a different point in my lifestyle in my 40’s, and I don’t want to be extreme and “look at Holly’s abs”, that’s now what I’m at in my life right now. But if you are lean and you have a high metabolism, you better feed your body otherwise you’re going to run into issues later down the road.
Jacqueline: Okay, that’s awesome, and again you do have so much great fitness information. I’m realizing that for everyone listening to the replay, I could use to read some more of these. Like Bridget says, she was responding to Angie, and says, “I’m a club FYM member and I have bad knees, three surgeries,” and she talks about the low impact workout which is great and there have been so many people commenting things like that. Okay, I know we got like 5 more minutes here but—
Holly: I can talk for another 15, my husband’s picking Tyler up.
Jacqueline: Oh, okay! Perfect.
Holly: We have time.
Jacqueline: Okay, so go ahead, I’ll look up the top here but…oh! Savannah’s asking about fighting sugar dependency. Do you have anything specific you want to say because yeah, a couple of people are talking about sugar cravings and fighting that.
Holly: Sugar’s a drug. As long as it’s in your system, you’ll feel addicted to it. You have to eliminate it in order to manage it. I think that JJ Virgin gave a great example of that. Do you remember that story? Maybe I heard it.
Jacqueline: She was on. I think. So go ahead and tell the story but I think I know it.
Holly: I probably will get the story wrong but it has to do with, if you sit down and there’s a tack on your seat, you can rise up and hold your own body weight but eventually you’re gonna sit back down and be poked by it again.
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Jacqueline: Yes.
Holly: The only way to stop being poked is to get up, okay it’s simple, it’s a process. You've got to unsew it, you got to take it out, and you got to sew it back up again. Then when you go to sit back down, you’re not being poked. You have to eliminate it. I know it’s hard but what’s harder, continuing to struggle with it day in and day out?
The first three days are the worst, that’s why you need support when you’re doing it. After the first three days, then it becomes a matter of managing. You can be more self-‐aware, start filling your body with nourishing foods so your body doesn’t have this craving because you’ve been…your body hasn’t been depleted of certain nutrients so it’s trying to accommodate for that. But that’s the only way to get around it especially for people who feel like they have no self-‐control.
This is not a matter of, “Oh, I’ll just go sugar-‐free for three days,” then when you add it back in, you’re right back where you started. It’s still in your system. People talk about 21 days because that’s how long it takes to get it out of your system. So yes, you've got to eliminate it. You don’t substitute it with artificial sweeteners or agave or honey or anything else that is substituting the sweet because then you’re just continuing the cycle. You have to get rid of it.
Jacqueline: Okay. Huge, that’s great to share. Abigail has something here saying the link you put up takes us to The Great Parenting Show signup but how do you get Holly’s offer? Rose, if you could just double check, it should, and I know people said they bought so it should be okay, but www.greatparentingshow.com/Holly, H-‐O-‐L-‐L-‐Y, that should work. So yeah, Angie was talking about how—Oh yeah, Rose said she did double check so that should work. Rose, maybe put it in the chatbox one more time please and people could just click on that. That would be great.
So Angie was talking about the online support group for people trying out, so that’s your Club FYM, and let’s talk about that as well because you got the introductory offer and then you’ve got the for people who want to dive in and sign up for your whole system, then they can do that as well.
Holly: Yeah, FYM is our…we call it our safe circle of support because when it comes down to it, when we go to make changes to our life, people who are used to us living in a certain way, don’t react to it very positively unless you step down and have a conversation, you’ve shared, you've opened up your heart and you’ve shared that this change needs to happen and why, many of us start without
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telling anybody but ourselves and all of a sudden you’re doing things differently and you’re met with this, “Oh, what is happening?”
So that’s why it’s really important to be surrounded by people who get what you’re going through and more importantly that they want to see you become the best version of you versus a lot of people we have personally around us don’t. They don’t want to see us change because that’s either going to highlight the changes that they need to make, or they can’t relate to you anymore and there’s a loss.
And it’s also important to have a place where you can come, especially for moms, a safe place to come and just vent because a lot of times we deal with a lot—oh my god, some of the stuff that I’ve been seeing on FYM as of late—to know that you have a safe place to come and hide out to get something that’s really heated you up and not be judged by it but to be heard and validated because sometimes we just need to get it out in order to move forward. That’s a big part of FYM, it’s not just, “Oh, you got to do these workouts each month.” No, we got this safe circle of support where you can come and be vulnerable and be you and be accepted for that, because that’s one of the biggest proponents in order to being able to level up to enhance the quality of your life. You got to do what works for you, and if that continues to be put off, you won’t truly get there.
Jacqueline: Yeah, and the support is a critical piece. Just to read, Sandra says it’s really easy to get started, just started with her first video a couple years ago, so thanks for sharing that. I have a couple more things, yeah, because Lavanda had to ask that question about being able to…you know, how much do you have to do to start.
So yeah, there’s lots of specific questions like I’m not sure if you can comment something like Hashimoto’s, I think, is quite specific and how that would interact with the adrenal issues, so that’s probably another one for the doctors. Do you want to make any comments about some of the health conditions that you have seen ameliorated by doing the workouts?
Holly: Yeah, there’s a handful of Fit Yummy Mummies who have come forward that said that they have been struggling with Hashimoto’s, or maybe just diagnosed with, and doctors have been very impressed with the results that they have achieved despite that condition because they are taking better care of themselves, not just doing the workout but they’re taking better care of themselves. Daniella is one of them who just opened up and shared about…Jacqueline, I don’t know if you saw her story
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Jacqueline: Oh
Holly: And you would look at her and wouldn’t even know that that’s what she’s struggling with because it was just a couple of months ago, she celebrated her 1 year anniversary with FYM. So her body’s completely transformed despite the condition because she started taking better care of herself; working out better, eating to nourish, taking time to tune in and listen to her body, and make choices that are best serving her, huge change.
Jacqueline: What a great example of what you’re saying of surviving versus thriving because many people with serious conditions like that are stuck in surviving because they don’t know better. And I know I’ve heard crazy things about MS—muscular sclerosis—like how some of those conditions that people who are really fit can sometimes get themselves in remission state for a long period of time so there’s some huge benefits. I wanted to share Bridge’s comment that she says, “Fit Yummy Mummy has continually changed my life through 4 kids even through pregnancy.”
Oh, and I guess this person figured it out but yeah, if someone doesn’t have a credit card, I guess…what’s the other payment options for people who don’t have a credit card?
Holly: There’s PayPal. Credit card or PayPal.
Jacqueline: Okay, perfect, so PayPal works. Okay, couple others here. Yeah, Angelica’s commenting about how so many of us carry the weight of the world on our shoulders and how that can express through our bodies and you really are talking about shedding so many of those values and attitudes that are bringing us down, which is a big deal. So Abigail wants to know about doing this program online instead of having it shipped to us and it is actually online, but is there also a physical component as well?
Holly: Physical components are going out of style. Everything is instant, on your phone. If you don’t want to wait and set stuff up, you just press play. So yeah, this is completely digital online.
Jacqueline: Fantastic.
Holly: If you’re stuck at anything at any point, my signature line is, “I’m always an email away,” and yes, you’re getting me.
Jacqueline: I love it. And I love how Abigail has the consciousness of not wanting to add more stuff to the world, and I think that’s just huge and really important.
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Okay, so couple other things here, and if you want to keep putting your questions in, I know Rose often puts a question in front of them so that really helps me to know which ones are questions.
Holly, you go ahead, I’ll just scroll for a sec. Is there anything else that you want to add? I know there’s many things, and here’s one I could ask you is about doing workouts in the morning versus later in the day? [16:48 distortion] with my show launch was one of those times where I was reminded of the fact that nature is not always in balance. And I was having the period of time there where I was working just crazy insane hours. So I actually started sometimes working out in the afternoon when I felt like I needed more caffeine but I usually don’t drink more than a cup a day so instead of having caffeine, I was doing my workout then to pick me up. But I tend to like morning workouts. Do you have a recommendation on what time of day is best?
Holly: I say the time of day that allows you to be consistent.
Jacqueline: Perfect, yeah.
Holly: So think about what commitments you have, your energy levels, but it might fluctuate and don’t try to fix your workout schedule into this box. Maybe Monday mornings are good but on Wednesdays it’s afternoon. It doesn’t have to be a set time every single time. Sometimes it’s going to be spontaneous. “Oh suddenly the neighbors came by and the kids ran out to play, I have a block of time, I can do my work out!” So don’t restrict yourself. Yes, it’s good to plan but don’t restrict yourself to saying, “Oh, I can only do this at this time and if I can’t get it, it’s a fail.” So definitely be open and flexible in paying attention to what works best for you. Consistency, consistency, consistency.
Jacqueline: Fabulous. Okay, here’s a piggyback on that, someone was asking about starting with a four minute workout. What do you have to say? I know you basically answered that earlier when you said just start and do what you can, do you want to comment any more about that?
Holly: Like if you’re talking about, I see four minute workout videos being posted everywhere, that’s fine, but if you’re not following…okay, this is something that should’ve been talked about during the first part. You can’t program hop and expect to get results. You have to follow a program that’s been designed to progressively increase the challenge so that way it's keeping in mind the balance of the workouts and it’s knowing what level you just completed so we know what to work on for the next levels. Your body’s constantly changing, if you’re hopping from one program to the next, there’s no progression, and while you’re
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working out and feeling better, you might not see the results you’re going to achieve if you’re actually following a system that’s been intelligently designed in order to help you to continue to achieve. So if it takes a four minute workout to just get into a habit, great, but you have to commit to a program that is systemized to ensure that you are gonna get results.
Jacqueline: Fantastic. Yeah, that’s so critical.
Okay, Akiba, I’m not sure I’m pronouncing that right, is talking about…she’s breastfeeding and she can’t eat green vegetables and she doesn’t eat meat. Do you have suggestions—oh, apparently her digestive system was damaged by the—it’s one of those words—anesthesiologist? I can normally say it but I’m not saying it right today. But do you have suggestions for her because she can eat things like pasta, she can’t eat green vegetables and she doesn’t eat a lot of protein. Do you want to comment?
Holly: Do not eat a lot of protein because you’re choosing not to?
Jacqueline: Oh sorry, she does not eat meat. She doesn’t say she doesn’t eat protein so I trust that she does eat it.
Holly: I take the approach of you need to eat meat, you need to have some proteins so I’m not the best resource for you. I’m not vegan, I’m not vegetarian. I see a lot of people struggle that do commit to that type of lifestyle but that’s probably for a whole other call. I think that you can live a balanced healthy life by making sure that everything’s eaten in moderation.
Jacqueline: Okay, thanks, because I know that there’s so many different subtopics within this site, it’s like the whole parenting gift, that’s impossible to be an expert on the whole thing. So another question is “How to keep myself motivated? When I lose some weight I tend to eat and celebrate and gain it back. From following your program, I could probably answer that question and I’d love to hear your answer."
Holly: Well, I would say, in that particular instance, you know that that cycle exists so why are you not catching yourself? Because the goal is to make new mistakes to learn from them. If you’re making the same mistake over and over again, it’s a choice. Why are you choosing to sabotage yourself? What are you afraid of by getting results?
So you’re going to have to dive in to the other aspect of this. What are you scared of that’s causing you to self-‐sabotage and go back to square one? What are you getting out of staying overweight or dealing with those extra pounds
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that keep coming back? Because this is a matter of self-‐sabotage. I think that that’s the best advice that I can give at this point because motivation is a completely different topic, but if you are continually self-‐sabotaging and it’s a predictable cycle, that needs to be addressed ASAP and find out why you’re making that choice.
Jacqueline: And I love, because this has come out in the interview and in this Q&A, is that you have that beautiful balance between being very supportive and very clear that we need to be gentle on ourselves, but at the same time, really one of the most self-‐loving things we could do, as well as the most loving things we can do for our families, is take serious stock of habits we have that aren’t serving us. And in this case, and I think it’s just wonderful that she made that comment because by making that comment, now it’s out there and now she’s had a chance and I actually had, by chance, didn’t say who it was and I think that’s just as well because it doesn’t matter who said that. It’s not a criticism at all, but you’ve been given a chance to say, “Wait a minute.” Well, you talk about the three C’s. Do you want to talk about that because I know choice is one of them.
Holly: Yeah. Let me say that you have to take the chance to make that choice so your life will never change. That one?
Jacqueline: Yes, yes. And again, you broke up a little bit so you want to say that again?
Holly: You have to make a chance, no, you have to take a chance to make a choice or your life will never change.
Jacqueline: Yeah.
Holly: I’m thinking about it like that, and I’m glad you didn’t use that name or used somebody’s name because I’m sure a lot of women who are listening to this could be like, “Oh, that’s me,” and awareness is the first step.
Jacqueline: Yeah.
Holly: And you can totally do this cause once it’s out there, you can manage it. And I talk about this in Club FYM because there are a lot of women who battle with emotional eating and keep continuing the same mistake. If you try journaling, so instead of grabbing a fork, grab a pen and paper. Sit down and do not put anything in your mouth and instead get everything out. You will be amazed at what comes out. And then you have it, here, in front of your eyes, and you could do something with it. You can ask for more specific help, you can have some aha! Moments, but instead of going, “I don’t know why I keep doing that,” no!
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Now it’s a matter of taking control and doing something different so that way you can get different results which will end up being better results.
Jacqueline: Yeah, fantastic. Just to acknowledge again someone else, Lindy’s saying, “I love Club FYM. There’s some amazing ladies in there. I just think that the type of support,” and when see that when see the other people having the same challenges and the fact that it’s all about getting back on the wagon and trying again, and trying again, and trying again, and trying again and what we are modeling for our children when we do that because they have so many things in their lives there.
And weight issues, whether it’s the anorexia or your bulimic or stuff, that’s on the rise, right? Eating disorders are dramatically on the rise in children. It’s something like, I believe I’ve heard, 20% of children nowadays, like preteens, whatever age, but under 18, have eating disorders nowadays. Now I’m pausing for a second because we have to let that sink in; what are we doing when we are not handling that and we’re not showing our kids how? And of course, we’re just part of a world that’s got some real bad habits. It’s not like we’ve done anything personally wrong but we are given a chance today to be more conscious and make better choices.
Holly: And that’s why it’s so much more important for moms to really take a look at how they really treat fitness and the messages that they are sending to their children because we have to make sure we’re sending the right impression.
And this reminds me of another member of Club FYM who had talked about, she had reflected on ‘Do you remember your first time?’ and she was like, she has a daughter who’s extremely tall so her daughter gets made fun of, so she’s seeing that her daughter’s taking that and internalizing it and it is affecting the way she’s eating, and this FYM member reflected back to the messages that she received as a child and the damage that that did, and was like, “You have the ability to lead her here and change and shape her future despite what she’s been hearing. You’re going to be the strength and guidance and that support because of the healthier changes that you are making in your life.” So it’s so vital for parents nowadays to set and live the example.
Jacqueline: Uh huh. And maybe think, I’m disappointed I didn’t say this sooner, but when people go to that www.greatparentingshow.com/Holly page and see the pictures, they’re crazy good. And I’m sure that we’ve all had that time in our lives where we’re seeing someone, and hopefully you had a real compassionate reaction, because when we’ve seen someone who’s really overweight and we imagine how that limits their lives and how…and they are, thank goodness,
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there are some people overweight who are able to not take the invitations to be unhappy but even they have some health ramifications usually from what’s going on.
And seeing those pictures, so I know it can be easy to point out that we’re not the exact size we wanted to be, can be easy to say, “What’s the point?” But when you’ve seen the people who’ve gone from 180 pounds and 160 pounds and you just look, you see the before and after pictures, honestly I hope everyone, and I know some people talked about having other programs that they are using which is great because Holly and I both would say, “Wonderful, you’ve got something that’s working for you. Keep doing it.”
Holly: Yes.
Jacqueline: And check out that page if you want to keep being inspired because just seeing the women who have gone from 140 to 130 or whatever, it doesn’t have to be a big amount, although for some people it is, but just seeing the tone difference and even the smiles, cause I know from being part of your club that these are us taking pictures, we’re not doing it for you, so we’re taking pictures in our house.
But a lot of times the women, we look happier afterwards, right? And that’s just so cool because none of that’s staged, because we always wonder when we see those before and after wrinkle pictures and things like that, right, whether they’re staged and I know that they aren’t staged so…do you want to even share? We’re just about done here, but do you want to share even one more story about someone who you just saw transforming that really inspired you?
Holly: I would have to look up a story.
Jacqueline: Yes, well I know there’s so many.
Holly: Yeah!
Jacqueline: So do we maybe have an accumulative one too.
Holly: What’s a good story I can say. I’m having flashes of dozens of women’s faces in mind.
Jacqueline: Yeah!
Holly: And each of them have opened up and shared something so raw and so empowering. And as of late, they have not had the spotlight that they deserve to be celebrated, and you know what, what I see a lot of times too is that the
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before and after photos are shared on social media, it’s amazing how many women are not supportive when we are the only ones that we’ve got.
Jacqueline: Awww.
Holly: We need to have each other’s backs. And this is looking to, or inspiration to be, proud of somebody else for the work that they did to earn those results. So, oh my goodness…
Jacqueline: Well not to put you on the spot. If you don’t pick one, that’s okay, but let me tell you something
Holly: [laughs]
Jacqueline: I want to take on something that you’ve said there because when you said people aren’t supportive, I imagined one of the scenarios that could happen. The problem is, many women and men, even women and men who are at an ideal body weight at this point in their lives, can be very judgmental. And that ‘What’s the point?’ attitude can result in becoming morbidly obese, like that’s where that attitude can get you.
I think, unfortunately, it can come out and it’s really sad but most of us need and we all thrive when we’re in an environment where people are really supportive and that’s what you’re all about and all about progress, not perfection, and so I do always think when I see people, and that’s why I loved that you shared that you weren’t always the perfectly beautiful role model that you are now and that’s so critical because otherwise it’s easy for people to say, “Oh, you’re one of the beautiful people. You’re always have looked like this, no big deal,” and it’s really critical for people to know that it doesn’t matter where you are now, you can feel by now that it’s somewhere you want to get to.
Holly: Yes, I love it. And going off by what you are saying, and thank you for the kind words, I’m blushing, you can't see.
I think that too many of us get caught up in the comparison trap. So we’re constantly comparing ourselves and we’re comparing our behind the scenes with other people’s highlight reels. And we need to see more the process of what actually takes place. We’re not seeing that somebody took, it took somebody two years to go from this to this. We only see the before and after and then look at ourselves and go, “Well uh, that will never happen for me.” And comparison is the thief of joy, the only person you need to be comparing yourself to is who you were yesterday. Let the goal be each day, “What am I doing to get better?” And then it’s going to help you keep that perspective,
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you’re going to stop comparing and fueling that feeling of hopelessness and that’s only distracting you from being present and living your life and doing what it takes to get better.
Jacqueline: Beautiful.
Holly: So the comparison has to stop. Use others as guides not goals. Use others as guides not goals. When you keep it in perspective, when you have that healthy balance, you’re just gonna just jet ski forward.
Jacqueline: Yeah, fabulous! Wait, what?
Holly: Put a smile on your face!
Jacqueline: Yeah!
Holly: And enjoy the journey! You have to enjoy the journey!
Jacqueline: So what a beautiful place to end on then because it totally is about enjoying the journey. When you said you’re blushing, and the fact is, Holly, I was quite persistent because you’re quite a busy woman and I sent you a few emails to get your attention because I just had to have you back on this show.
Holly: Aww.
Jacqueline: And I totally agree that there are some men out there who are doing great work and if you’ve got a guy’s program that’s working for you, awesome, but I love that you’re a mom and you get that mom part so much and you’re such a role model and so inspiring. So thank you, Holly, so, so much once again for being on the show and for all the fabulous work that you are doing in this world.
Holly: Well, thank you for allowing me to be able to share it with some new eyes that maybe didn’t know that the struggle could end. So I appreciate this opportunity and I feel very loved. Thank you.
Jacqueline: Wonderful. Okay, well I’ll let you go for now, and I’ll see you inside Club FYM. So, bye for now.
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