March 2014 Volume 45 Issue 3 Page 1 Last month we were pleased to have Jeff Skiles come visit the area on a stop of the EAA Grassroots tour. Jeff is the Vice President in charge chapters and youth education. He explained it as being in charge of everything that is not Airventure. So he has leadership over all the interaction with the membership, Chapters, the many aviation promotional programs as well as the museum. So it is all the day to day non Airventure stuff. Even though the day started with snow and later changed to melting and refreezing ice on bridges, there was a good crowd that drove to Denton airport HANGAR ECHOES Jeff Skiles Visits By Michael Stephan Experimental Aircraft Association Chapter 168 Dallas Article Index Jeff Skiles Visits Cover Monthly Schedule page2 Presidents Message page 3 Brad Roberts OneX page 3 Oratex page 6 Slats Rodgers page 8 V22 to Airventure page 9 Upcoming Events page10 March 2014 See Skiles on page 4 NOTE! The Chapter Meeting in on WEDNESDAY March 5th.
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March 2014 Volume 45 Issue 3 Page 1
Last month we were pleased to have Jeff Skiles come visit the area on a stop of the EAA Grassroots tour. Jeff is the Vice President in charge chapters and youth education. He explained it as being in charge of everything that is not Airventure. So he has leadership over all the interaction with the membership, Chapters, the many aviation promotional programs as well as the museum. So it is all the day to day non Airventure stuff.
Even though the day started with snow and later changed to melting and refreezing ice on bridges, there was a good crowd that drove to Denton airport
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Jeff Skiles VisitsBy Michael Stephan
Experimental Aircraft Association! ! Chapter 168 !DallasArticle Index
Jeff Skiles Visits! Cover
Monthly Schedule! page2
Presidents Message! page 3
Brad Roberts OneX! page 3
Oratex ! page 6
Slats Rodgers! page 8
V22 to Airventure! page 9
Upcoming Events! page10
March 2014
See Skiles on page 4
NOTE!The Chapter Meeting in on WEDNESDAY March 5th.
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March 5th Chapter MeetingThe March Chapter meeting
will be on Wednesday M a r c h 5 t h a t t h e F a r m e r s B r a n c h Library, located on the northwest corner of Webb Chapel and Golfing Green Dr. The meeting will be held in the auditorium and begin at 6:30 p.m. with socializing and coffee. The program will begin promptly at 7 p.m. and finish by 9:00 p.m.
This month our speaker will be our own Jim Quinn speaking on the Civil Air Patrol. Jim has been very active in the Addison CAP Squadron. He will gives more information on the mission and effectiveness of the organization.
Should be very interesting. I hope to see you there.
March 8th Fly-Out to BrenhamBy Michael Stephan
Our monthly fly-in will be on Saturday March 8th to Brenham Airport (11R) for lunch at the 50’s themed diner on the airport. We will meet on the ramp at 11:00 weather permitting.
Last month we went local, and this month, as the spring weather arrives, we will venture further out. The diner there is very unique and quite popular. It is a real boost that is on the airport property.
I hope to see many of you there. Cross your fingers for good weather.
March 29th Project VisitBy Michael Stephan
After a long hiatus, we are bring back the monthly social gathering. We will be visiting Brad and Deia Roberts on Saturday March 29 at 11:30 to see his OneX project.
Brad is really running through this kit and if you don’t see it soon, he will be flying it.
Brad and Deia invited us over for a bite of lunch and a bit of airplane talk in the garage (aka project build center). We hope to see you there.
March 11th Board MeetingThe next BOD meeting will be held on Tues. March 11th
at the Farmers Branch Manske Library at 7:00 PM. The minutes from the February BOD meeting recorded by Michael Stephan are as follows:
Officers, Directors, and Members in Attendance: Michael Stephan, Norm Biron, Brad Roberts, Frank Prokop, Sam Cooper, Jim Canniff.
GENERAL MEETING, SPEAKER / SUBJECTMarch 5th: Chapter meeting Speaker will be Jim Quinn speaking on the Civil Air Patrol.April 2nd: Mike Montesfusco on the detection of Carbon Monoxide.
CHAPTER FLY OUTMarch 8: Brenham Airport (11R) at 11:00 on the ramp
MONTHLY SOCIAL GATHERINGMarch 29: Project visit at Brad Roberts house at 11:30
TREASURER REPORTBrad presented the Treasurer’s Report for February. He
gave a summary of income and expenses. All Christmas expense has been recorded.
OLD BUSINESSNorm submitted a proposed insert to give to all Young Eagles notifying them of the Chapter’s EAA Academy lodge incentive program.Michael discussed the new Blue Skies and the upcoming Eagle flight event to be held at Dallas Executive Airport on March 1.
NEW BUSINESSMichael explored the possibility of changing the database portion of our website.Also discussed was the ability to allow Young Eagles access to our online newsletter to keep up with the activities of the Chapter.
Brad and Deia Roberts 10716 St. Lazare DriveDallas, TX 75229-5346214-351-0475
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Brad Roberts Onex ProgressBy Michael Stephan
Not long ago we took a look at Brad Roberts Onex project. Last September we saw the completion of the tail feathers and part of the wing sections. He is much further along now. As you can see in the photos. the fuselage is coming along nicely.
On Saturday, March 29th Brad and Deia have invited us over to see the project as our monthly social gathering (details on page 2). If you are interested in a very small single seat affordable easy to build airplane, here is your chance to get a good look at one. By the way, the wings fold making it easy to store that second plane in your crowded hangar.
From the President’s DeskBy Michael Stephan
Last month there wasn’t much flying for me, but there was plenty of good aviation stuff.First I would like to thank Charles Forman for the excellent presentation on the “Flying Pancake” at our last Chapter meeting. The restoration of that aircraft is fascinating story. The Smithsonian is getting a top exhibit once the lease runs out in ten years. For now, you can see it at the Frontiers of Flight Museum.The next night several travelled to Denton to see Jeff Skiles speak about the EAA on one of the Grassroots tour stops. Although the weather was difficult, the crowd was a nice size and very interested in what Jeff had to say.On March 1st, we will be flying the first group of Blue Sky teachers that signed up for an
Eagle ride experience. We will do that at Dallas Executive Airport in the morning. It is a small group of four people, but we hope word of mouth gets around and more take advantage of the experience.
The March meeting is the one where we elect the Board of Directors for the year. They will then take office at the Board Meeting in April. Most of the current Board members have volunteered to serve another year ( a testament to how much fun it is). But if you would like to be considered let me or any Board member know and we will add you to the slate.
for the presentation. US Air hosted the event at their fine facility on the airport.
Scott Severn with his wife Margret did a terrific job hosting the event. There was a social hour before the meeting, and many of the attendees had time to speak with Jeff, who socialized with members to whole time.
We had several members there, despite the weather. Jim Canniff, Norm Biron and Bruce and Mary Ann Fuller were in the audience that night.
Officially Chapter 168 and the Dallas EAA Ultralight Chapter 393 were the hosts of the event. Even though Scott did all the work putting it together, Jeff presented both Chapters with plaques of appreciation. A little embarrassed, I accepted the honor. Sometimes it just about showing up, and it was well worth the effort. The beginning of the presentation was a history of the
EAA. Jeff showed historical pictures of the first EAA meeting in Paul Poberezny’s basement. There were also pictures of the humble beginnings of Paul’s basement office with wife Audrey working beside him. Then the presentation moved to the first fly-ins. Initially small at first, they rapidly drew an interested following, as new designs showed up every year.
As the years progressed, the slides showed all the benefits that EAA offers it members. It detailed many of the activities at Pioneer Field during the year. It also included the many exhibits at the museum, which is one of Jeff’s responsibilities. The presentation also mentioned all the programs that EAA sponsors, like the Young Eagles, Eagles, and the free legal counseling. Also included was the EAA Air Academy which runs for several weeks in the summer.
The Flight into the Hudson
The slide presentation lasted about 45 minutes with a question and answer session afterwards. He must have got the question before, because when the topic of the flight into the Hudson was mentioned, another 45 minutes slide presentation started.
Now we have all heard the story. I have heard Sullenberger speak about it at an Airventure event several years ago, but Jeff gave a more detailed description of the day. He not only described the time from take-off to splashing into the Hudson, but he included a timeline of the time in the airplane pulling floatation devices from under the seats for the passengers who evacuated without them. Jeff pointed out that the passengers had no idea they were ditching in the Hudson. They were only told to brace for impact.
Jeff also told the story of one of the passengers that stripped down to his boxers planning to swim the icy
waters of the Hudson to shore. He was wisely ushered directly to one of the rafts.
The main theme of his story was all the emotions he experienced throughout the ordeal. The work required to prepare the aircraft for an engine out water landing. The rush to get all the passengers evacuated. The chill of standing in the ice cold water. Then there was the time in raft with it tethered to the airplane, which was slowly sinking, and cutting it away with a borrowed knife, which happened to be a switchblade tossed down from someone on the ferry boat. That knife is now at the bottom of the river. Jeff didn’t think it was wise to keep an open knife-blade while in an inflatable boat. After being thrown a rope from the ferry and boarding nets dropped over the side, Jeff held the rope so the raft would stay beside the hull of the ferry. Being quite exhausted, Jeff remembers he and Sully being the last two in the raft. He was so tired and cold that they had to pull him the last few feet over the rail of the ferry. Once safely ashore, there was already a press
conference where the Mayor was calling it the “Miracle in the Hudson”.
Somewhat dazed after the whole event, he, Sully and the flight crew were whisked off to the hospital E.R. to keep them quarantined from the crushing press. Since none of them were injured, vitals were taken and the crew released. Several rooms were book anonymously for the crew to stay the night in. While at the hotel, counselors helped the two pilots deal with the stress that follows a traumatic event. Jeff chuckled that immediately after getting an explanation that he would not be able to sleep for the next few nights, he was told to go get some rest.
Both pilots knew that they were not going home until the investigation board had there time with them. The investigators studied the data recorders and the crew tapes. In front of a panel of eight investigators, Jeff spent 3 hours answering questions. Then he was free to go home to Wisconsin.
Once at his home, he was greeted with the hoard of media and satellite trucks parked on his street. The phone rang filling up the answering machine. Despite his advice to his wife not to answer the door, she still opened it because it was the polite thing to do. One of those who came to the door handed her a note to give to Jeff. It was a note from Tom Poberezny inviting him to come to Airventure. He and Sully did and were named Young Eagle Co-Chairmen. Now Jeff is a Vice President, and we are glad to have him.
The presentation was a very humble explanation of an incredible day that started off with a flight to North Carolina, that didn’t get very far. One funny note Jeff offered was when the passengers were back on the ferry docks eight passengers got a taxi back to the airport and caught the next flight to North Carolina.
Jeff gave all the credit for the training that everyone underwent to make the outcome as good as it was. The pilot crew training, the flight attendant training, the ferry boat’s emergency training, and the medical staff preparations. Also included was the fellow pilot from another airline that met him in Chicago and offered to drive him to his hometown in Wisconsin, and the counselors that talked with he and Sully once at the hotel room. He emphasized that there is a safety net around us that we don’t notice is there, but it is there.
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If you read the February Sport Aviation and the January issue of the Experimenter and you have seen two unique aircraft. In the experimenter it was the yellow Lil’ Cub, and on the cover of Sport Aviation was the Double Ender. Both airplanes have a few things in common. Both are Alaskan airplanes, are STOL aircraft (Short Take Off and Landing) and less obvious, both are covered in a fabric called Oratex.
You can get more detailed information at their website www.betteraircraftfabric.com
Oratex has been certified in Europe, where the fabric originates. Here, we are able to use it in the experimental
category. Oratex is currently being used on over 100 flying airplanes, with many more under construction, and the oldest being over ten years and still looking very good. It is becoming more popular because the fabric has some very attractive properties.
The fabric is very light weight. Oratex6000, the heavier of the two offerings, is a modified polyester fabric that weighs .459 -.524 oz/sqft. Weight saving comes at a cost. The builder of Lil Cub Frank Knapp said, “Oratex saved at least 25 pounds on the Lil’ Cub.” He estimates that it costs between $500 and $1000 to lose one pound when replacing it with something like carbon fiber or titanium, assuming that part exists in that form. Frank states that using the conservative estimate that using Oratex saved about $12,500 in weight, making it worth the investment. The Double Ender also said that they saved 25 pounds.
It comes with the color impregnated, so it doesn’t require painting, although you can paint it if you wish.
It is easy to apply. The slogan on the website says, “Glue it, shrink it, fly!” It does not require special coatings that can be very toxic. The adhesive is water borne and heat activates it. The application of the coatings does not require expensive tools, since there is no painting involved, and you don’t have to do any sanding with Oratex. The US sales rep says that an average builder can cover a cub-sized aircraft in about 100 hours of labor as opposed to 500 hours for the other types of coverings.
It is easily repairable. The tapes and patches that you can buy have the adhesive already on it. So you can peel the backing, stick it down and apply heat to make the bond. the patches can also be used to fix other coverings, although the the color with not match, which is one of the downsides. The fabric only comes in a handful of colors. But they are popular base colors. I’m thinking the base color and a few vinyl stripes would be a very attractive covering for a tube and fabric design.
It is very durable. Oratex has been tested in Alaska, which is not easy terrain for airplanes. Rocks get kicked up into the fabric causing dents and tears. So far the fabric is holding up very well. If you get a dent in the fabric it can
be fixed with a heat gun to shrink it out. It would be nice if it worked on cars. There is a demonstration of the repair on Youtube. Since the fabric already has color, the ringworm paint defect does not happen to Oratex. Ringworm is when a dent causes the paint to crack off of the fabric.
The fabric does not support combustion, so there is a safety factor as well.
The application process is a bit different from the other polyester processes. First, Oratex does not shrink as much as the standard fabrics. So, the initial glueing has to be a bit closer to the actual size of the part being covered. The shrinkage is between 8%-13%. Also the adhesive is quite a bit different. You apply the glue to both the fabric and the part it attaches to. The adhesive must be given time to cure, usually overnight. Then the two parts are brought together and when heat is applied, the two parts are bonded together. It reminds me of how you glue things together with contact cement. But with Oratex, you can loosen the glue by applying heat. The shrinking process is also a bit different. Similar to the regular covering process, you use an iron to attach the fabric to the airframe, and different temperatures shrink the fabric different amounts. But unlike the ironing of the field of the fabric, those large areas between edges, it is preferred to use a heat gun to apply the heat. Basically you can blow it tight. Other than that, the covering process is what you would do for any covered airplane. The
stitching, tacking and applying tapes is the same as the standard covering process.
Oratex is more expensive than other fabrics, but when you add in the layers of paint, the time for applying the paint and the weight of the paint, the cost is very competitive.
Another aircraft also using the fabric is the record breaking Solar Impulse. The Solar powered airplane that made a stop here at DFW airport. Looking back at my pictures I recognize that the fabric color is the same used on the Double Ender.
If you want to investigate further, there is quite a few video demonstrations on Youtube. Just search for Oratex. Also, some of the Alaskan STOL aircraft will be at Airventure. You can see them there. It is definitely on my radar.
I have a few projects than need covering, and I think I will give it a try. The Airbike needs it tail feathers covered. That would be a good test.
The twin engine Double Ender
The Solar Impulse covered with Oratex
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Who was the first Texan to receive a pilot’s license? I’ll give you a clue… He was also the first Texan to have his license revoked! Still d o n ’ t k n o w t h e answer? The man’s n a m e w a s S l a t s Rodgers, and his story is equal parts comedy, drama, and adventure. Prior to his death in 1 9 5 6 , h e w a s a barnstormer, a stunt pilot, a parachutist, an aerial bootlegger, an instructor pi lot , a pioneering cropduster, and a smuggler of
everything from silk and perfume to ammunition.Floyd H. Rodgers was born in Georgia in 1889 and
moved to Keene, Texas as a teenager. After scouring libraries for information on airplanes and coming up with little to show for his time, he decided to build a model. It generated so much interest amongst his family and friends, he decided he had to build the real thing.How did he go about getting started? Just like most
others that want to start building, he placed a call to Vans… ha ha, just kidding… Vans didn’t have telephones yet! He ordered spruce from Oregon, turnbuckles from France, and a two-stroke engine from St Louis. With the help of John Fine, an engineer he met while working for the Santa Fe railroad company. When it was finished, Rodgers proceeded to ground loop it repeatedly during 6 weeks of taxi testing. After the 6 weeks of taxi (and crash) tests, he was ready for his maiden flight. Ok, he wasn’t REALLY ready, but it happened anyway. During a high speed taxi test, he was headed for a ditch and yanked back on the yoke. Airborne! 200 feet later he suffered his first crash related to flight. In his short flight, he remarked that the right wing had a “sag” in it, so he christened the plane “Old Soggy No. 1.” The main gear and right wing suffered heavy damage in the mishap, but Rodgers was
able to pass the hat and collect enough money to rebuild the plane.A year or so later in 1912, after boozing with friends in Ft Worth, he decided to fly Old Soggy No. 1 again. I’m not talking about he just DECIDED to fly again... He literally walked out of the saloon and into the airplane. Once airborne, the right wing started sinking as usual, “I leaned to the left hard,” he recalled. “The wing came up. ‘I got you, you lop-eared bastard,’ I said.”This flight would last longer than 200 feet, but he ran into another problem. He didn’t know how to turn. He ended up landing straight
ahead in a cornfield. When asked about it later, he recalled “I had never seen anybody fly a ship – I never had even seen one except mine.” After learning how to turn, he and ‘Old Soggy No. 1’ made approximately 50 more flights together before he retired the airframe in 1913.
In 1916, he became a civilian flight instructor for the army and went on to fly army surplus Jennies, and Canucks as a barnstormer and stunt pilot after WWI.
In 1919, as prohibition was coming to America, he saw an opportunity. He purchased a Lincoln Standard 5-passenger biplane. He wasn’t just interested in toting the family around, though. He used it to fly bootleg whisky from
Slats (Not Just an Airplane Part)By David Buono (excerpts taken from book ‘Old Soggy No 1’)
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Mexico to Dallas. The next 10 years of his flying career were spent flying and hiding from the Texas Rangers. He also gained local fame by flying as one of the so-called Love Field Lunatics in Dallas, a rag-tag group of pilots who flew airshows over Love Field as a cover for smuggling various goods into Dallas. Rodgers would conduct air shows in the afternoon and send one of the planes across the border for a shipment of whiskey. If Slats suspected a government agent was in the crowd, he would have the plane smuggling in the contraband join the stunt or formation as if it had been stunt-flying all along. He eventually got caught and served 6 months in a Dallas prison for his escapades. At some point during that time he also got his license (earned in 1926) revoked for flying between two skyscrapers in downtown Dallas on a bet.
Looking Slats up online leads to quite a few stories of his flying career, so it’s hard to tell facts from legend. Some of my favorites include landing on a street in Houston, parachuted from a Curtiss Jenny that caught fire during an airshow, surviving a crash after the motor had fallen off, safely landing a fabric-covered aircraft with one side in flames, and landing safely at night after being blinded by lighted fireworks mounted on his plane.
After interest in barnstorming faded and prohibition had ended, Slats took up crop dusting in the lower Rio Grande valley. A Jenny was his plane of choice for this job, and he modified one by cutting holes in the floorboards to dispense chemicals. He once performed a highly experimental maneuver to try and save a farmer’s tomato plants during a freeze. He flew low over the plants hoping to keep a breeze on them and keep them from freezing. “A couple of times chunks of tomato stalks, chopped off by the prop, hit me in the face and work me,” he wrote. “If you know how high a tomato stalk grows, then you know where I was.”
As the Air Commerce Act (1926) became law, and the CAA (Civil Aeronautics Authority) started enforcing some basic licensing and safety requirements, Slats had less and less freedom to partake in some of his favorite activities. The last story I could find online is from February 1934. Slats was the pilot of a Waco Model 10 Cabin Cruiser when it made a crash landing in a farm field. That wouldn’t be noteworthy except for who his passengers were… The
infamous Bonnie and Clyde. The flight originated at Love Field and the flight plan listed Waxahachie as the destination. The crash site was about 100 miles away from Waxahachie, and when questioned about it, Slats said “I was lost.”
After retiring from flying, Rodgers bought a 400–500 acre ranch in Bandera and opened a steakhouse. He subsequently sold out and moved to McAllen, opened another steakhouse, and ran a fisherman's camp in nearby Zapata. Slats Rodgers died on July 5, 1956, in McAllen and was buried at Laurel Hills Cemetery in Mission, Texas. A marker in his honor stands inside the McAllen Airport.
The U.S. Marine Corps MV-22 Osprey, one of the world's most unique military aircraft, will return to the EAA AirVenture Oshkosh fly-in in 2014. The MV-22 will be on display at the event and also give demonstrations of its unique flying capabilities.
The Osprey is making its first appearance at Oshkosh since 2010. This appearance, however, is the first time the aircraft will perform its full Level III flight demonstration at the event. It is only making nine such air show appearances in the U.S. this year.
Exact arrival, demonstration, and departure dates for the aircraft at Oshkosh will be announced as they are finalized. The Osprey's appearance continues EAA AirVenture's long tradition of bringing aircraft from across the aviation spectrum, from the smallest ultralight to the largest transport, to The World's Greatest Aviation Celebration.
MV-22 Osprey Tilt-Rotor Aircraft Confirmed for EAA AirVentureFrom airventure.org
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Chapter 34 Young Eagles Event at GPMBy Michael Stephan
Last fall we had a successful Young Event at Grand Prairie hosted by Chapter 34 (Arlington). They have scheduled another for March 22. The announcement below provides the details.
If you plan to fly, please call Michelle and let her know you are coming. If you want to help with the ground operations, feel free to show up and there will be something for you to help with. I like talking with the parents, so I will be there promoting aviation, the EAA and answering questions. There is fun to be had. So, come on out and participate in it.
Let's get together for some fellowship and fun. We're having Free coffee and donuts for everyone on the first Saturday of every month at Chuck Roberts Hangar 2520 in the McKinney Hangars Association area at the McKinney National Airport TKI McKinney, TX. Let's gather at 9:00 am. You don't have to be a member to attend. Fly-ins can ask the tower for directions to the MHOA Hangers. See you there!Saturday, Apr 12, 2014 - Pilots, Popovers Plane Talk - Terrell, TX
Terrell Municipal Airport (KTRL)
Terrell Municipal Airport will be hosting a pilot appreciation event which will include a complimentary deluxe breakfast buffet. We hope you’ll join us to share a morning of camaraderie and conversation with fellow pilots. The hot breakfast buffet will feature scrambled eggs, bacon, sausage, potatoes, toast, biscuits and gravy, and of course—popover muffins! This is a pilot only event, although we welcome you to bring a guest. Please RSVP at www.terrellairport.com/pilots/.
To place an ad: Submit requests for aviation related For Sale or Want ads to the newsletter Editors. Ads are free to Chapter 168 members. Ads from nonmembers will be run on a space available basis. Ads will be run at the newsletter Editors discretion.
We would like to make you aware that as always, in past, present, and future, any communications issued by Experimental Aircraft Association, Chapter 168, Inc., regardless of the form, format, and/or media used, which includes, but is not limited to, Hangar Echoes and audio/ video recordings is presented only in the light of a clearing house of ideas, opinions, and personal experience accounts. Anyone using ideas, opinions, information, etc. does so at their own discretion and risk. Therefore, no responsibility or liability is expressed, or implied, and you are without recourse to anyone. Any event announced and/or listed herein is done so as a matter of information only and does not constitute approval, sponsorship, involvement, control or direction of any event (this includes Oshkosh). Bottom line, we are responsible for nothing. Please read, listen, enjoy, and be careful out there.
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For Sale: Corben Baby Ace, finished in 1976. Built by my dad. Continental 65 hp manual start. Needs recovering and the engine should be overhauled, because it has not been flown in several years. No radios and no navigation lights. Has disk brakes. Always hangered. Located in Greenville, TX. Will take the best offer above $8,500. Call or text 405.209.6430.
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For Sale: Sensenich fixed pitch aluminum prop setup for a O-360 (76" dia 65" pitch, spacer and 12" dia. spinner) Less than 60hrs since installed new. $2750 Bill Bracken 817-925-4699 For Sale: Slick Mags removed from O-360 Lycoming, #4371 Impulse (366 hrs), #4370 Non-Impulse (zero hrs), includes spacer and harness, will need drive gear for 4370. 4371 $300 - 4370 $750 OBF Marvin Brott [email protected] 214-726-9117 For Sale: David Clark headset TSO $100. Hydraulic Wing jack for RV aircraft (RV Easy Lift System). New condition – used once. $140. Tail dragger dragger for RV or other tail wheel aircraft. $125. Tools: Pneumatic and hand. Just about enough to build an RV or other sheet metal aircraft. 35 items, mostly from Avery Tools and all ready to work. New price for these tools is more than $1850. Sell for $700. Aircraft parts, 20-50% of cost: New UMA suction gauge , electric boost pump, tachometer, rod end bearings, aluminum tubing, Call or email for list and prices. George Kilishek (972) 250 2906 or [email protected].
To place an ad: Submit requests for aviation related For Sale or Want ads to the newsletter Editors. Ads are free to Chapter 168 members. Ads from nonmembers will be run on a space available basis. Ads will be run at the newsletter Editors discretion.
EAA CHAPTER 168 OFFICERS President Michael Stephan [email protected] 214-232-2405 Vice President Norm Biron
We would like to make you aware that as always, in past, present, and future, any communications issued by Experimental Aircraft Association, Chapter 168, Inc., regardless of the form, format, and/or media used, which includes, but is not limited to, Hangar Echoes and audio/ video recordings is presented only in the light of a clearing house of ideas, opinions, and personal experience accounts. Anyone using ideas, opinions, information, etc. does so at their own discretion and risk. Therefore, no responsibility or liability is expressed, or implied, and you are without recourse to anyone. Any event announced and/or listed herein is done so as a matter of information only and does not constitute approval, sponsorship, involvement, control or direction of any event (this includes Oshkosh). Bottom line, we are responsible for nothing. Please read, listen, enjoy, and be careful out there.
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For Sale: Granbury Texas Airpark Home/Hanger For Sale $269,900 - 3509 Nassau Ct., 76049 (Nassau Bay) Beautiful home with large hanger on Nassau Bay Airpark. Two story home with enclosed upstairs patio, two separate living areas, iron/brick fenced, covered RV parking. Hanger is 50x34 and has 2 electric automatic doors with direct access to hanger from house. Well maintained and move in ready. Website with pictures: http://mysite.verizon.net/resy4wnc/index.html Owner: [email protected] or 214-729-2260 Realtor: Pam Knieper at 817-243-8345 / [email protected] For Sale: Sensenich fixed pitch aluminum prop setup for a O 360 (76” dia 65” pitch, spacer and 12” dia. spinner). Less than 60hrs since installed new. LOWERED PRICE $1850 - Bill Bracken 817-925-4699 For Sale: Fiber Glass Cloth For Sale Bi directional 8H satin Weave Aeronautics/Aerospace grade, 13.3 mils thick, 50” wide, warp strength 562 lbf/in, fill strength 518 lbf/in, 14.43oz/sqyd, compatible with all resins, in original packaging 125 yard rolls. Comparable price at Aircraft Spruce, over $9/yard. $400 per roll, that’s only $3.20 per yard to EAA members. Cut lengths $7/linear yard 50”wide with a $50 minimum. Call Jim Carney 214-
763-6784.
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For Sale: Sensenich fixed pitch aluminum prop setup for a O-360 (76" dia 65" pitch, spacer and 12" dia. spinner) Less than 60hrs since installed new. $2750 Bill Bracken 817-925-4699 For Sale: Slick Mags removed from O-360 Lycoming, #4371 Impulse (366 hrs), #4370 Non-Impulse (zero hrs), includes spacer and harness, will need drive gear for 4370. 4371 $300 - 4370 $750 OBF Marvin Brott [email protected] 214-726-9117 For Sale: David Clark headset TSO $100. Hydraulic Wing jack for RV aircraft (RV Easy Lift System). New condition – used once. $140. Tail dragger dragger for RV or other tail wheel aircraft. $125. Tools: Pneumatic and hand. Just about enough to build an RV or other sheet metal aircraft. 35 items, mostly from Avery Tools and all ready to work. New price for these tools is more than $1850. Sell for $700. Aircraft parts, 20-50% of cost: New UMA suction gauge , electric boost pump, tachometer, rod end bearings, aluminum tubing, Call or email for list and prices. George Kilishek (972) 250 2906 or [email protected].
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EAA CHAPTER 168 OFFICERS President Michael Stephan [email protected] 214-232-2405 Vice President Norm Biron
We would like to make you aware that as always, in past, present, and future, any communications issued by Experimental Aircraft Association, Chapter 168, Inc., regardless of the form, format, and/or media used, which includes, but is not limited to, Hangar Echoes and audio/ video recordings is presented only in the light of a clearing house of ideas, opinions, and personal experience accounts. Anyone using ideas, opinions, information, etc. does so at their own discretion and risk. Therefore, no responsibility or liability is expressed, or implied, and you are without recourse to anyone. Any event announced and/or listed herein is done so as a matter of information only and does not constitute approval, sponsorship, involvement, control or direction of any event (this includes Oshkosh). Bottom line, we are responsible for nothing. Please read, listen, enjoy, and be careful out there.
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For Sale: Granbury Texas Airpark Home/Hanger For Sale $269,900 - 3509 Nassau Ct., 76049 (Nassau Bay) Beautiful home with large hanger on Nassau Bay Airpark. Two story home with enclosed upstairs patio, two separate living areas, iron/brick fenced, covered RV parking. Hanger is 50x34 and has 2 electric automatic doors with direct access to hanger from house. Well maintained and move in ready. Website with pictures: http://mysite.verizon.net/resy4wnc/index.html Owner: [email protected] or 214-729-2260 Realtor: Pam Knieper at 817-243-8345 / [email protected] For Sale: Sensenich fixed pitch aluminum prop setup for a O 360 (76” dia 65” pitch, spacer and 12” dia. spinner). Less than 60hrs since installed new. LOWERED PRICE $1850 - Bill Bracken 817-925-4699 For Sale: Fiber Glass Cloth For Sale Bi directional 8H satin Weave Aeronautics/Aerospace grade, 13.3 mils thick, 50” wide, warp strength 562 lbf/in, fill strength 518 lbf/in, 14.43oz/sqyd, compatible with all resins, in original packaging 125 yard rolls. Comparable price at Aircraft Spruce, over $9/yard. $400 per roll, that’s only $3.20 per yard to EAA members. Cut lengths $7/linear yard 50”wide with a $50 minimum. Call Jim Carney 214-
763-6784.
For Sale: O-290D - No Logs - From a Piper Colt. Been in storage for aproximately 10 years. Engine has generator/mags. $3000. Contact Bartie Coyle 972.682.9965
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