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1 IEEE 802.3 HSSG HSSG Copper Objectives Prepared by: Participants of the HSSG copper interest list Presenter: Chris Di Minico
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1IEEE 802.3 HSSG

HSSG Copper Objectives

Prepared by:Participants of the HSSG copper interest listPresenter: Chris Di Minico

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2IEEE 802.3 HSSG

• Michael J. Bennett, LBLnet Services Group• Yakov Belopolsky, Bel Stewart Connector• Ed Cady, Meritec• Larry Cohen, Independent• Chris DiMinico, MC Communications• Alan Flatman, Independent• Henning Hansen, Leoni High Speed Cables• Sanjay Kasturia, Teranetics• Greg McSorley, Amphenol Interconnect Products• Ron Nordin, Panduit Corporation• Joe O’brien, Efficere Technologies• Gourgen Oganessyan, Molex Incorporated• Joe Pein, Honda Connector• Petre Popescu, Astar• Bob Thornton, Fujitsu Components America, Inc.• Herb Van Deusen, W.L. Gore• George Zimmerman, Solarflare Communications

HSSG copper interest list

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3IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Supporters:•Schelto Vandoorn Intel •Ali Ghiasi Broadcom•Dan Dove Dove Networking Solutions –

ProCurve Networking by HP•Shimon Muller Sun Microsystems •Olindo Savi Siemon Company•Joel Goergen Force10 Networks•Hugh Barrass Cisco•David Law 3Com

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4IEEE 802.3 HSSG

November 14-16, 2006

•Feasibility of a 100 Gbps copper interconnect 12-Nov-06 Chris DiMinico, MC Communications, George Zimmerman, Solarflare Communications

January 17-19, 2007

•Market Potential for 100 GbE Copper11-Jan-07 Chris Di Minico, MC Communications

•March 12-15, 2007

The need for a low-cost 100GbE inter-rack copper interconnect9-Mar-07 Mike Bennett LBNL

24 AWG twinaxial cable structure for 25Gb applications9-Mar-07 Carl Booth, Amphenol Spectra Strip

Higher Speed Study Group Meeting Presentations:

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5IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Higher Speed Study Group Meeting Presentations

•100G Copper Proposal: Technical Feasibility From Connector Technology Standpoint9-Mar-07 Gourgen Oganessyan, Jim McGrath, Molex

•High Speed Copper Cabling for HSSG9-Mar-07 Herb Van Deusen Gore Associates

•100G Ethernet Test Adapter 9-Mar-07 Will Miller, Efficere Technologies

•Twinaxial cable assembly transmission characteristics 9-Mar-07 Chris Di Minico, MC Communications, George ZimmermanSolarflare Communications

•High Speed Study Group objectives and five criteria9-Mar-07 Copper interest group

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6IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Presentation objectives and non-objective

• Identify HSSG copper objectives

• Technical and economic feasibility of 10 Gb/s serial operation

•Copper interconnects for >10 Gb/s

• Non objective – choosing a solution

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7IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Yes

YesYes

cable available

up to > 10

up to > 10 up to > 10

Length (m)Passive cable

Yes25

YesYes

connector technology available

20

serial lane rate Gb/s

10

HSSG copper- Lane rate(s)-for discussion

•Please note these rates are offered for discussion based on input from the call for interest list group. They are not to be considered as recommendations to the HSSG.

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8IEEE 802.3 HSSG

802.3ap - Ethernet Operation over Electrical Backplanes

802.3 ap Insertion Loss vs twinaxial cable assembly IL

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IL 24 AWG equivlent -10 m to 12 m

ILmax(f)-KR

Amax(f)-802.3ap MaxAtt

CX4-IL-10 m

IL-8mil-Strip Line-85CM

IL-IPass Cableassembly 26 AWG -7m

802.3ap – signaling 10.3125 GBd

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9IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Various levels of de-emphasis without equalization

Eye patterns for FR4 transfer function

Source: Herb Van Deusen, W.L. Gore

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10IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Various levels of de-emphasis without equalization

Eye patterns for FR4 transfer function

Source: Herb Van Deusen, W.L. Gore

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11IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Various levels of de-emphasis without equalization

Eye Patterns for 24 AWG cable -10 to 12 meters

Source: Herb Van Deusen, W.L. Gore

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12IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Various levels de-emphasis without equalization

Eye Patterns for 24 AWG cable -10 to 12 meters

Source: Herb Van Deusen, W.L. Gore

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13IEEE 802.3 HSSG

StatEye - 7 meter 26 AWG IPass Assembly

Simulation settings:•10.3125 Gb/s•Optimized TX de-emphasis•Vpp = 1 V•3-tap RX DFE

Source: Gourgen Oganessyan, Molex, Leoni High Speed Cables

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14IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Cable assemblies - 28 AWG/24 AWG/28 AWG ADV-D 10 meter

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worst case IL - 10 m - 28 AWG

PSNEXT-4 disturber assembly

PSFEXT-3 disturber-10 m assembly

PS Total disturber Noise

Insertion Loss - 10 m - scaled 24AWG

Insertion Loss ADV-D 28 AWG

Leoni twinaxial cable:advanced designs in comparison to nominal CX4/Infiniband constructionsboth electrical and mechanical

Source: Leoni High Speed Cables

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15IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Cable comparison

Source: Clark Booth, Amphenol Spectra Strip

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16IEEE 802.3 HSSG

Cable Designs

Source: Herb Van Deusen, W.L. Gore

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17IEEE 802.3 HSSG

10428 ADVD7730.001.76>15460.00>27147.01

10228 ADVD7290.001.51>14580.00>22044.24

10028 ADVD6605.001.30>13210.00>17212.31

104249500.001.94>19000.00>36785.11

102248700.001.77>17400.00>30727.91

100248645.001.44>17290.00>24950.75

104285680.001.5511360.0017555.24

102285070.001.3810140.0013984.52

100284090.001.338180.0010889.28

metersdBAWGMHzMbaudMb/s

LengthCode gain

Copper Gauge

Channel bandwidth

Info bits/baud/dim

Maximum signaling rate

Maximum Lane rate

Lane Rate, Signaling rate, channel bandwidth10 m cable + connectors @ 6 dB Margin

Source: George Zimmerman, Solarflare Communications, Chris DiMinico, MC Communications

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18IEEE 802.3 HSSG

4X-SMA 25Gb Test Adapter

• 25 Gbs per differential pair

HSSG copper- Lane rate(s) > 10 Gb/s

25 Gbps

Source: Efficere Technologies

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19IEEE 802.3 HSSG

4x-SMA-25 Gb… Board-to-Board

12.8 Gbps12.8 GbpsNo EqualizationNo Equalization 20 Gbps20 Gbps

No EqualizationNo Equalization

Return Loss-4 dB to 20 GHz

Board to board …2 test boards calibrated to the 4x launch

10 dB 1 dB

-9 dB

12.8 Gbps12.8 GbpsNo EqualizationNo Equalization

20 Gbps20 GbpsNo EqualizationNo Equalization

HondaConnectorTwo 4x receptacles

HSSG copper- Lane rate(s) > 10 Gb/s

Source: Efficere Technologies

Receptacle launchand copper interconnect enhancements in development

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20IEEE 802.3 HSSG

• Technical feasibility, economic feasibility, and market potential for a Higher Speed copper interconnect demonstrated.

• Up to 10 meter reach consistent with intra/inter rack application and HPC cluster distances.

• High speed study group should add high speed copper interconnect objective of up to 10 meter reach over copper to address intra/inter rack applications and high performance computing (HPC) interconnects.

Conclusions

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21IEEE 802.3 HSSG

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