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1 Identifying, Finding, and Eliminating Power Line and Other Man Made Noise Sources Ira Stoler – K2RD NCCC – April 10, 2006
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Identifying, Finding, and Eliminating Power Line and

Other Man Made Noise Sources

Ira Stoler – K2RD

NCCC – April 10, 2006

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Outline

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Types of Noise

• What Does It Sound Like?– Hum, buzz, hiss, pulse.– On all the time? Periodic? Sporadic?

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Typical Sources

• Mains– Anything in or near a power line can be a suspect.– Some examples:

• Appliances– Motors, timers, contactors.

• K2RD-10m-motor.wav• K2RD-160m-wide.wav

– Digital Devices• K2RD-40m-broadband.wav

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Looking For The Signature

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The Signatures

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The Signatures

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Why?

• So that you find the actual offending source in the field.

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Quantifying The Sound

You can tell a lot from the signature!

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Tools

• Receiver(s)• Antennas• Audio Spectrum Analyzer

– A Big and $$ Box– PC S/W and Sound card

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Receiver

• Listen on AM• Turn AGC off if possible otherwise lower

RF gain so noise doesn't move S-meter.• Use maximum attenuation

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Scope

• Frequency Info– Helps determine source

• Time scale - noise waveform– May further refine suspected source

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Signature

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Mains Sourced

• Usually 120hz and its harmonics

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Appliances

• Likely have varying base frequency• Often sporadic

– Example: K6IDX restaurant spray painter -resonant power cord

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Digital Devices

• Usually broadband noise with some varying components

• Birdies

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Searching For The Source

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Use Your Station's Directional Antennas

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Hand-held Receivers

• Examples– FT-817– VX1R

• Try a small beam on 2m and 432• Specialty loop rx

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Mobile Rigs

• multi-band antennas useful

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Frequencies

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Arching-based noise sources will likely be rich in harmonics

• Higher frequencies are weaker (usually).– K6IDX 15M Power Pole Ground Shield

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Search for noise on progressively higher

frequencies as you get closer• HF noise can often be heard for miles• 6m noise within a mile• 2m noise a few hundred feet• 432 noise under 100 ft

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It’s Easy To Be Fooled

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Listen for the arc - ultrasonic dish receiver

• Source must be open• Won't hear concealed sources like inside

an insulator or lightening arrestor.• Power company usually has one

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K2RD Toolset

• 160m-70cm mobile station• 144/432 5 el yagi with FT817• WB6BYU 80m loop• Ultrasound Dish (coming soon)• Laptop PC w/Soundcard• Audio Spectrum Analyzer Software

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K3RFI with 300 mhz Rx

The Radar Engineers Model M330 is a professional grade Mini RFI Locator

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K3RFI with Ultrasound Dish Rx

http://www.rfiservices.com/ Radar Engineers Model 250 Parabolic Pinpointer

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What He Was Looking At

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April 2006 QST

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Sept 2005 QST

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Bang The Pole Slowly ... and Carefully

• Shake the guy wires if there are any.

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Check your own house first.

• Listen at the breaker panel with handheld rx– Turn off breakers one at a time

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BEWARE: You may have MULTIPLE sources

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K2RD Connecticut Mystery

K2RD

x

x

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Elimination

• Turn stuff off while listening• Get Power Company help

– Best done if you have narrowed source location

– Be persistent• Neighbors

– FUD and Diplomacy

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Work Arounds

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Noise Blankers

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Noise Cancellers

• MFJ 1026– Requires Noise Optimized Antenna

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Use your beam - it may be more directional on local noise than

rx/tx signals - use its nulls

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Case Study: K6IDX Chestnut Drive Noise

• All HF Bands• Seemed to be coming from JA direction• Present continuously for long periods• Localized by mobile search and hand-held 432mhz

confirmation to top of pole half a mile away• Rusty rings power company

– They respond really quickly– But.. can't fix problem that day

• Must be present when power company work crew is working

• Took several trips by power company crew to fix because we weren't there with them

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Another K6IDX Problem on 15M

Basic Steps Toward Tracing and Eliminating Power-Line InterferenceQST November 1991, pp. 43-46

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Case Study: K2RD Connecticut

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Dumb and lazy at power company

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Confounding sources

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Very expensive (for K2RD) to resolve

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K3RFI - $$$

• Worth it except...– Suddenly couldn't work everything I could

hear (80/160)

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Did finally mobilize power company (and train them!!!)

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Reference Material

• The ARRL RFI Book– W1RFI, etc

• AC Power Interference Handbook-- by Marv Loftness, KB7KK

• Contesting.Com RFI Reflector• ARRL Web site

– POWER-LINE NOISE MITIGATION HANDBOOK FOR NAVAL AND OTHER RECEIVING SITES – PDF on ARRL web site

• Google• www.rfiservices.com

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Thank You

• Good Hunting!


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