Jashodeep Datta, MD, Dahlia M. French, JD, Stephanie Rowe, Catherine Kling, MD, John L. Tarpley, MD, Kyla P. Terhune, MD
Introduce and Define the I-USMG Contrast J1 vs H1B F1 and OPT as means to H1B Visa choices make a difference Coordinator comments Institutional issues Other visas
Questions
Jash Datta: Calcutta, India Colgate University
(Hamilton, NY) Vanderbilt School of
Medicine
University of Pennsylvania PGY-2
Catherine Kling: Melbourne, Australia Dartmouth University Vanderbilt School of
Medicine
Vanderbilt University PGY-3
2011 NRMP Match Data
23,421 total positions 16,559 US Seniors 1,364 prev US Grads 2,178 US osteopathic 11 Canadian
20,112/23,421=85.9%
IMGs
General Surgery 1.1 Anesthesiology 1.2 Plastic Surgery 0.6 ENT 0.9 Family Medicine 2.0 Overall 1.4
GS Spots 1,108
U.S. “Preferred Choice” 1,041
U.S. Matched 897
Foreign –Trained Physicians 108
Matched 1,106
9.8% IMGs
US Immigration
ACGME
US Citizen US Med School
US Citizen US Graduate
US Citizen International Med School
US Citizen IMG
Non-US Citizen US Med School
IMG US Graduate
Non-US Citizen International Med School
IMG IMG I-USMG
IMGs US-IMGs Non-US citizen IMGs
I-USMGs
IMGs: H-1B J-1
I-USMGs (case): F-1 student visa during MS4 year Eligible for Optional Practical Training (OPT) Can use this for PGY-1 year, then H-1B or J1
J-1 (ECFMG) H-1B Maximum training 9 yrs 6 yrs
Renewal Yearly Every 3 years
Home country requirement 2 years** None
Moonlighting Not permitted Permitted
Non-ACGME programs Not permitted Permitted
246 surgery programs (ACGME): 196
Coordinators were asked: Are non-US citizen housestaff enrolled? Are any of these US graduates? What category of visa is sponsored (J-1, H-1B)?
Total programs 246 -- Participating
programs 196 79.7%
PROGRAM TYPE University-affiliated 101 51.5%
Independent 86 43.8% Military-sponsored 9 4.6%
PROGRAM SIZE Large (≥ 5 chiefs) 102 54.5%
Medium (3-4 chiefs) 60 32.7% Small (1-2 chiefs) 24 12.8%
VISA SPONSORED Only J-1 120 64.2%
H-1B or both 61 32.6% No visa sponsored 6 3.2%
NE 10.7% East
13.9% SW 4.3%
South 20%
SE 13.9%
MW 23%
West 11.2 %
GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION
VISA H-1B J-1 p-value
All programs 61 (32.6%) 120 (64.2%) --
PROGRAM TYPE University 40 (39.6%) 60 (59.4%)
0.027 Independent 21 (24.4%) 60 (69.8%)
PROGRAM SIZE Large (≥ 5 chiefs) 39 (38.2%) 62 (60.1%)
0.14 Medium (3-4 chiefs) 15 (24.6%) 43 (70.5%)
Small (1-2 chiefs) 7 (29.2%) 15 (62.5%)
P=0.19
I-USMG enrollment YES NO p-value
VISA SPONSORED
H-1B or both 44 (83.2%) 17 (12.7%) <0.001
J-1 only 9 (17.0%) 111 (82.9%)
PROGRAM SIZE
University-affiliated 41 (77.3%) 60 (44.8%) <0.001
Independent 12 (22.6%) 74 (55.2%)
PROGRAM SIZE
Large (≥5 chiefs) 41 (77.3%) 61 (45.5%)
<0.001 Medium (3-4 chiefs) 10 (18.9%) 51 (38.0%)
Small (1-2 chiefs) 2 (3.7%) 22 (16.4%)
Programs prefer J-1 Independent (70%), University (60%) University more likely to offer H-1B
Residents enroll in H-1B programs
Discordant goals
By offering H-1B, programs can increase applicant pool (including I-USMGs)
OCTOBER 1st
I-USMGs can start July 1
F-1 in medical school OPT for internship
DO NOT NEED USMLE Step 3
Apply for H-1B during intern year
Issues for applicant: ability to visit home (all visas) ability to become permanent resident ability to complete training (may need to change
visa status) ability to complete research in residency (grants) ability to remain in US after training* Moonlighting
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1, GC (WP)
IMG
R-1 R-2 R-3 R-4 R-5
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
R-1 R-2 R-3 Res Res R-4 R-5
Academic
Community
FELLOWSHIP?
FELLOWSHIP?
OPT J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
OPT
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
J-1/ H-1B
I-USMG (US medical school)
(F-1)
(F-1)
Academic
Community
Issues for the program: Expenses *** Repatriation (H1-B termination of employment prior
to expiration date– pay for employee airfare) Paperwork (J1 renewed yearly) Lack of certainty of start time Public perception (branding) Duty to train US residents (CMS salary) Limitation of remediation (ECFMG– advancement
only– J1 only)
J-1
$200-300 (applicant)
H-1B
$820-1820 (program)
Specific Info Needed for J1, H1B, E3
Differences in visas from coordinators perspective
Temporary worker visa One “who possesses extraordinary ability in
the sciences, arts, education, business or athletics…” (O1-A is medical)
Three years Can be extended yearly after that, no limits
(Tarp: case, SAR: coordinator)
E-3: Australian citizens similar to H-1B spouses may work (E3D)– need EAD renewable every 2 years (no limit)
L-2: Spouse of an L1 (intra-company transferee, e.g.
Microsoft) Need an EAD
H-1B1: H-1B for Chileans (1,400) and Singaporeans (5,400)
J2 (spouse of J1) Need EAD
Green Card: US permanent resident card
Work Permit (EAD): Employment Authorization Document Legal right to work– in addition to visa status Visas that cannot be used for clinical work: TN, B,
rest of the alphabet…
Refugee/Asylum/Displaced Person