+ All Categories
Home > Documents > Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

Date post: 05-Jul-2018
Category:
Upload: titirony98
View: 217 times
Download: 0 times
Share this document with a friend

of 18

Transcript
  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    1/18

    Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich

    August 28, 2009 / 14 Comments / in Submissions, Takedowns  / by Dr Sick

    Home Blog Member Training Forum About Contact Log in

    Blog

    Page 1 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    2/18

    ” Let me show you how to

    properly do a front face lock”

    Thinking that there wasn’t much an old ”pro” wrestler could teach a veteran grappler like

    myself, but having been brought up to respect my elders (and this guy was old, very old) I

    let him do his stuff, telling myself it would make the old man’s day ( I’m nice that way). He

    wrapped his still massive arms around my head, placed a hand on my shoulder, figure

    foured his wrists and cranked. Although he didn’t seem to apply much pressure, my knees

    buckled. My jaw, neck and spine made a loud cracking noise. I was certain he had just

    ripped my head straight off of my shoulders.

    But he wasn’t done yet…he took me down and put me in a

    leg lock, a half Boston of all things, a fake ”pro” move or so

    I thought).

    What hadn’t cracked on the earlier move cracked then. Two weeks of regular chiropractor

    visits later, I humbly made my way back to the gym, armed with a new found respect for

    the old ”pro” wrestler and a desire to learn more about the old wrestling methods.

    And so began my journey into the world of Catch as Catch Can wrestling… REAL ‘‘pro’’

    wrestling.

     Eddy Wiecz Carpentier

    [http://damagecontrolmma.bizlift1.netdna- 

    cdn.com/wp- 

    content/uploads/2009/08/Eddy.jpg]

    Page 2 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    3/18

    (you can see the half boston crab in a MMA fight at 6:00 in, in the clip above)

    Much like today, the Catch wrestlers of old were always looking for new ways to pin and

    submit their opponents. Their livelihood depended on it. In the past, these men dedicated

    themselves to the very real tradition of wrestling and engaged in completely real

    professional bouts. Furthermore, this wrestling was not the collegiate, free style or Greco-

    Roman wrestling we see today. It was submission wrestling, using techniques these men

    called “hooks’’

    These submission wrestlers, called “hookers, shooters, pistols” by those in their trade,

    were the sort of men who sought real challenges and were not afraid to learn or show

    anything, Of course, this lead to a blend of wrestling styles. European styles mixed with

    Russian, Indian, and Japanese styles. So anyone claiming to know the ‘’true system’’ of

    CACC is either ignorant or trying to confine it to a mould that never existed before. There

    is no ‘’one way’’ of doing things, only principles and rules for you to use and play with.

    These principles and rules are what define Catch as Catch Can Wrestling and give it its

    unique flavour. I do admit that there are some Catch techniques and set ups that I have

    yet to find in other grappling systems, but what really sets it apart are the underlyingprinciples behind the techniques, the philosophy of the art if you will.

    After making its way to North America, around the end of the 19th century, the English

    Lancashire CACC wrestling style was blended with the “rough and tumble” American

    mentality of the era and a more aggressive catch-as-catch-can style of wrestling emerged,

    creating some of the most outstanding grapplers of that period.

    In all the annals of history you would be hard pressed to find tougher and more skilled

    mat men than the Catch-As-Catch-Can Wrestlers. These old time shooters took on all

    comers from all over the world and emerged victorious through a flood of blood, sweat,

    tears, and broken bones.

    Page 3 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    4/18

    Catch can be particularly aggressive. Unfortunately, some

    mistake this aggressive pace for a lack of technical finesse.

    The system is based on domination and pain compliance, but also on leverage, physics

    and control. The use of pressure points is also encouraged to set up techniques and keep

    opponents on the defensive.

    All forms of submission holds, heel hooks, neck cranks and small joints manipulations are

    allowed within the CACC curriculum.

    Catch has a wide appreciation of body mechanics and demonstrates a flexible and

    innovative mindset when it comes to submissions.

    Not only does it use the typical subs you

    see across styles, but also flows freely

    from one technique to another, often

    times improvising subs to better take

    advantage of whatever the opponent

    leaves open during a scramble. Hence the

    name Catch as Catch Can Catch a hold

    anywhere you can).

    Basically, besides gouging, fish hooking, biting and deliberate striking, all is permitted

    within the CACC rule set. It’s all about getting the job done, as quickly and as effortlessly as

    possible.

    You can get a feel for the type of person who would study

    this art back in the day.

    [http://damagecontrolmma.bizlift1.netdna-cdn.com/wp- 

    content/uploads/2009/08/CatchToeHold.jpg]

    Page 4 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    5/18

    Actually, the term ‘’ No Holds Barred’’

    was originally used to describe the

    wrestling method prevalent in CACC

    tournaments during the late 19th

    century

    , Meaning that no holds were banned fromcompetition. That is why the CACC Wrestling men had

    to know how to throw, control, pin and submit their

    opponents from every angle and position imaginable.

    These men coupled brutal submissions (double

    wristlocks, neck cranks, toeholds etc) with an ability to

    twist their opponents into pretzels to pin them.

    Since a Catch as Catch Can match can be won by

    either submission or pin, Catch wrestlers pay

    particular attention to positioning; high level of

    proficiency in breakdowns, rides and pins is required

    to excel in this system. Position is crucial to pulling off

    any submission, and even more so to obtain a pin.

    Bottom escapes is another aspect of the game that is

    perfected. knowing that your opponents will work

    extra hard at keeping you on your back to obtain the

    pin, an incredible amount of time is spent working our way back up from bottom .

    CACC became by far the most popular American sport during the post-Civil War period upuntil just before World War I, especially in the carnivals and fairs.

    The carnival’s wrestlers challenged the

    locals as part of the carnival’s “athletic

    show”

    and the locals had their chance to win cash reward if they could defeat the carnival’s

    strongman by a pin or a submission. This eventually led to the carnival’s wrestlers

    preparing for the worst kind of scenario and aiming to end the wrestling match quickly

    and decisively. As carnival wrestlers traveled, they met with a variety of people, learning

    and using techniques from various folk wrestling disciplines, many of which were

    accessible due to a huge influx of immigrants in the United States during this era

    It is important to remember that there were also

    many style vs. style matches. In this way, the

    apanese, amongst others, became very aware of

    the CACC tradition and vice versa.

     Here you see typical wrestling holds,

    arm bars similar to in jiu-jitsu, and

    throws found in sambo

    [http://damagecontrolmma.bizlift1.netdna 

    -cdn.com/wp- 

    content/uploads/2009/08/CatchWrestlingPoster.JPG]

    Page 5 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    6/18

    Judo expert and prize fighter

    Mitsuyo Maeda also known as

    ‘’Count koma’’ perfected his

    fighting system by competing in

    and learning Catch as Catch Can

    before moving to brazil and

    teaching is style of fighting to

    Carlos Gracie.

    Another judoka, Masahiko Kimura,

    also learned Catch as Catch Can while

    working as a professional wrestler.

    Kimura would go on to defeat Helio

    Gracie with a staple hold of CACC the

    Double Wrist Lock aka ‘’The Kimura’’.

    Karl Gotch after honing his skills at the infamous ‘’Snake pit’’ in Wigan were he learned

    CACC, travelled to india and studied Pehlwani (Indian Wrestling) and then to Japan were he

    studied Judo and Sumo. My coach Edouard Wiecz Carpentier, , practiced Greco Roman

    Wrestling, Boxing and Savate before turning his attention to Catch as Catch Can. Later, he

    also became an avid Judo player.

     An ad for a "Catch As Catch Can"

    Wrestling Bout 

    [http://damagecontrolmma.bizlift1.netdna 

    -cdn.com/wp- 

    content/uploads/2009/08/CatchWrestlingAd.jpg]

    Page 6 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    7/18

    Much like many of their contemporaries, these men were cross training even before we

    had coined a term for it.

    I often thought that, were Karl Gotch, Billy Robinson, Edouard Wiecz and many of the old

    time greats in their prime today, they would be at the forefront of MMA fighting, as it is

    results oriented instead of performance oriented like pro wrestling. Given their training

    and dedication, they would have been at the top of the mma food chain.

    Unfortunately, while many of the ‘’Old Timers’’ kept avery open mind towards training. Some coaches

    today seem to adopt a very dogmatic approach to

    teaching.

    Beware of all teachers who tell you

    that their method is the only

    legitimate one. All Grappling styles

    are good, it’s up to you to find

    witch one suit you best.

    On a closing note, here is what I have learned in my

    30 + years of practice.

    Judo, Sambo , Wrestling

    Freestyle/Greco

    Roman/Folk style) ,

    Catch as Catch Can and

     Eddy Wiecz Carpentier, Paul Leduc,

     Bob "Legs" Langevin

    [http://damagecontrolmma.bizlift1.netdna 

    -cdn.com/wp- 

    content/uploads/2009/08/Eddy-Paul- 

    Leduc-Bob-legs-Langevin.JPG]

    Page 7 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    8/18

    BJJ are all legitimate combat sports.

    They’ve all been proven effective.

    Nothing else needs to be said.

    If you want to be good at grappling, find a good grappling club

    and train there. The rest all comes down to the instructor and the

    individual.

    We all know what styles are effective and which ones are not. Just pick one you have

    access to and train hard. For the best grappling system out there, the only one worth

    devoting yourself to, is the one you enjoy practicing.

    And to paraphrase my good Friend Jake Shannon president of Scientificwrestling .com

    ‘’So what is modern Catch as Catch Can Wrestling? ANYTHING that is legal under the rules

    of a catch wrestling contest IS catch wrestling. I think a lot of people get confused that

    because catch wrestlers show a lot of little known but effective techniques that they think

    there is some sort of secret society where a few anointed people “know” catch wrestling.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Catch wrestling is “Open to suggestion”. Anyone can contribute as long as their

    contribution “works”.

    The only “proper” way to pin or submit a man is the way that works. That’s it. Catch

    wrestling isn’t necessarily a canon of technique; it is a METHOD and a set of rules.

    Each person will chain the techniques their own way. Each person will apply the subs and

    pins based on their individual body types and knowledge base. Catch is rigorously

    individualistic.

    That is why we are here, to continue experimenting in new ways to pin and submit people;

    no points. The permutations are endless.

    Page 8 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    9/18

    That is why it is called Scientific Wrestling; test it, prove it, use it, teach it to others to help

    them.

    These men will champion catch (their own brand of catch) and will have proven beyond a

    shadow of a doubt that they know their subject. It is truly an exciting time!’’

    Exciting times indeed!

    As an addendum to the original article, Coach Iatskevich asked me to include the following

    links for reference:

    first is an article written in 1905 and debates catch wrestling vs Jiu jitsu

    http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_leonard_0802.htm

    [http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_leonard_0802.htm]

    second Is an overlook of the history of MMA and it,s link to catch wrestling

    http://www.kocosports.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=18493&z=9

    [http://www.kocosports.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=18493&z=9]

    third is the story of Ad Santel vs judo

    http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/ad-santel-and-catching-our-history-11623

    [http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/ad-santel-and-catching-our-history-11623]

    From Kris Iatskevich: “I know some of these stories seem a bit negative,I personally don’t

    like comparing systems. But what you get from them. is the understanding of how much

    these arts influenced each other.”

    Kris Iatskevich has studied different fighting arts for the last 30 + years.

    – Catch Wrestling under the guidance of Eddy Wiecz Carpentier since ’96

    – Lead Instructor for the Scientificwrestling.com certification program

    – Black Belt and Regional rep. for SAW (submission arts wrestling) Hidetaka Aso

    – Black Belt Judo

    – Canadian rep for FIAS Sambo

    – President of Catch Wrestling Canada Association

    – Owner and Head coach of the Quebec Toe hold Club

    You can learn more about him, his system and more at his official website:

    http://www.catchwrestlingcanada.com/ [http://www.catchwrestlingcanada.com/]

     __________________________________________________________________

    As a final note from me (Brian Yamasaki), I would like to add that I own both of Coach

    Iatskevich’s Competition Catch as Catch Can DVD’s and consider them some of the best

    DVD’s I own. They contain an enormous amount of useful information and give a fresh

    perspective to the art of Submission Wrestling. I highly recommend either or both of

    these wonderful volumes.

    Page 9 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    10/18

     

    Related Posts:

    The Catch Wrestling Shin Lock [http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/07/the-catch-

    wrestling-shin-lock/]

    Keeping Catch Wrestling Alive [http://damagecontrolmma.com/2010/12/keeping-catch-

    wrestling-alive/]

    MMA – Catch Wrestling Technique: The Gotch Toe Hold

    [http://damagecontrolmma.com/2011/10/mma-catch-wrestling-technique-the-gotch-

    toe-hold/]

    Competition Catch As Catch Can Volume 1

    [http://www.catchwrestlingcanada.com/spec_sheet.html? 

    catalog[product_guids][0]=c1db38d2-5213-4c98- 

    89ef-7b62b47ca278]

    Competition Catch As Catch Can Volume 2

    [http://www.catchwrestlingcanada.com/spec_sheet.html? 

    catalog[product_guids][0]=90f19948-1e2c-4c8e- 

    bf4a-74d97dfcff24]

    Page 10 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    11/18

    Share this entry

     

    Tags: Cage Fighting, Catch as Catch Can, Catch Wrestling, Kris Iatskevich, Leg Locks, MMA, Neck

    Cranks, Old School Wrestling, Pro Wrestling, Sambo, Spine Locks, Submission Wrestling, Toe Holds

    MMA

    Techniques:

    The Snatch

    Single Leg

    MMA

    Techniques:

    The Snatch

    Single Leg

    Speak

    Softly And

    Carry A Big

    Kick

    Speak

    Softly And

    Carry A Big

    Kick

    A Solid

    Clinch

    Game For

    Takedowns

    and

    Submissions

    A Solid

    ClinchGame For

    Takedowns

    and

    Submissions

    Our MMA

    Students in

    Action -

    Nasty

    Knockouts

    and

    Omoplata

    Arm Break

    Our MMA

    Students inAction -

    Nasty

    Knockouts

    and

    Omoplata

    Arm Break

    4 Principles

    That

    Changed

    My

    Grappling

    Game

    4 Principles

    That

    Changed

    My

    Grappling

    Game

    Billy

    Robinson:

    Turn In

    Stand Up

    From

    Defense

    Position

    Billy

    Robinson:

    Turn In

    Stand Up

    From

    Defense

    Position

    You might also like

    Page 11 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    12/18

    14 responses to “Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By

    Kris Iatskevich”

    KevinDillardAugust 29, 2009 at 12:25 pm 

    Great article and nice laying out of the lineage in a short, but informative fashion.

    Kris is an absolute credit to not only Catch, but to the grappling/mma community.

    I’d like to also echo the sentiments regarding the dvd series.. it is one of the most

    exhaustive series on the subject.. I consider it part of my “Holy Trinity” of catch tutorials..

    the other two being WAR: Catch Wrestling Lessons with Billy Robinson and the Yoshiaki

    Fujiwara Submission Master Clinic.

    I’m honored to also consider Kris a very dear friend.

    Thanks for sharing this guys.

    Reply

     Martin Roy August 31, 2009 at 6:54 am 

    Yes,

    Kevin, you said it all!

    Reply

     wylothar August 31, 2009 at 9:31 am 

    Great article, I like to see how close the ideology of Sambo and Catch relate. If it works

    they will use it and make it part of them.

    Coach kris iatskevich recently also became an advisory position for the American Sambo

    Association. The ASA is going to soon have a Catch/ Sambo DVD coming out soon with

    Coach Iatskevich and Coach Stephen Koepher president of the ASA.

    http://www.ussambo.com.

    With the high praise for these video series. The will be high on my list to get. Probably

    next.

    Reply

     KevinDillardSeptember 3, 2009 at 6:45 am 

    I went back and watched the match with the Boston Crab finish in the second.. does

    anyone understand what the yellow card foul was supposed to be in the first round?.. Iknow the fighter pulling guard punched the other guy in the face/ear, but not sure what

    about that constituted a foul?

    Page 12 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    13/18

    Reply

     Coach RandyOctober 15, 2009 at 5:08 pm 

     Judo, Sambo , Wrestling (Freestyle/Greco Roman/Folk style) , Catch as Catch Can and BJJ

    Hey Brian, may I ask where’d you find the time to learn all of this or are you still in the

    process of learning it all? Do you mind telling your readers how much time you’ve spent

    with each style? Thank you.

    Reply

     Dr Sick October 16, 2009 at 12:34 am 

    Coach Randy,

    I am a full time student of the arts. I find time anywhere and everywhere I can, and make

    time whenever possible. It’s not easy. Not for anyone, myself included. I just do as much as

    I can, when I can. And I am definitely STILL IN THE PROCESS OF LEARNING. I don’t think I’ll

    ever learn it all. Nor do I want to.

    Guro Inosanto likes to tell us about the “Stay Green Mentality”. Once a fruit ripens, it can

    then only grow stale and rot. Learning, especially in the Martial Arts is a constant process,

    your game changes and evloves, peoples ideas change and cycles eb and flow. Agechanges you and you must adapt to it in order to keep up and stay healthy.

    The more I know, the more I know I don’t know. I’ve spent a fair amount of time (it’s hard

    to qualify) with Judo. My Grandfather was a 3rd Degree Black Belt. My Father is a 2nd

    Degree which he earned at the Kodokan Institute in Japan. I never took formal lessons

    from either of them, but I grew up around it and soak up as much as I can when possible

    (my Father no longer actively practices).

    I’ve never taken a formal Sambo class. I’d love to, given the oportunity. What I know about

    it is only what I’ve read and learned from the internet.

    I wrestled my second year of Jr. High (and was terrible… I think I only won 1 match). I

    restarted my formal wrestling studies in 2004 via seminar under Ricco Chiapparelli and

    again with him in 2005 along with Sean Sherk. In 2006 we would occasionally bring Chris

    Wells out to Mushin Self Defense to teach once in a blue moon. After that Chris began

    teaching takedowns at the Bernales Institute on Wednesday nights. I’ve worked with him

    whenever possible since that time (about 2007). He has been a really good friend and

    wonderful teacher to me.

    Catch As Catch Can is the most recent art to tickle my fancy. I’d seen it there and there on

    the internet and such, and to be honest, it had a real influence on Shooto which was the

    Art the Sensei Erik Paulson began studying and teaching before he began Combat

    Submission Wrestling. So bits and pieces of it have been in the mix since I began studying

    Page 13 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    14/18

    CSW in 2000-2001 with Brandon Kiser. But my study of it in it’s own right, for CACC’s own

    sake as opposed to aspects of it within the contexts of CSW really began in 2009 when Jake

    Shannon moved from CA to UT and needed a place to host a Billy Robinson seminar.

    Since that time I have attended 2 (1 Day) seminars with Billy Robinson and picked Jake

    Shannon’s brain whenever possible. Kris Iatskevich has been a helpful correspondant

    online, but as of yet I have not had the opportunity to train with him in person.

    I began my study of BJJ in 1999 with my Cousin Kelly Sheffield at the Seattle School of BJJ

    under Glen Barber (I think that was his last name). I travelled up there to train at the

    school twice over a two year period. My cousin would come out UT and update me once or

    twice a year as well. In 2000-2001 I began training under my current, primary instructor

    Will Bernales (BJJ Black Belt), I began with privates and then joined his group classes and

    have been with him ever since. Under Khuen Khru Will I study Muay Thai, CSW, BJJ, Kali,

    KD and a little Silat. Since 2000 I have supplemented my BJJ training under Khuen Khru

    Will with seminars with: Jean Jacques Machado, Rigan Machado, Royce Gracie, Professor

    Pedro Sauer, Steve Maxwell, Alex Derizans, and Nick Diaz. Each week I take a BJJ lesson

    either from Khuen Khru Will, Mike Diaz (BJJ Black Belt), Chris Wells (BJJ Black Belt), or Paul

    Sizemore (BJJ Black Belt). I am currently a first stripe Blue Belt in BJJ.

    My main areas of study are CSW and Muay Thai which I’ve studied under Khuen Khru Will

    (Full Instructor TBA Muay Thai) and Ajarn Surachai Sirisute since 2000. I have since

    achieved an Associate Instructorship in Thai Boxing Association Muay Thai. Currently, I

    take 1 lesson in Muay Thai every week under Khuen Khru Will Bernales. I have also

    supplemented my Muay Thai Training with 6 or 7 (I can’t remember off the top of my head)

    week long Thai Camps with Ajarn Chai, Ajar Inosanto, and Ajarn Greg Nelson as well as therest of the TBA senior and full instructors. In addition to 8 seminars with Ajarn Chai here in

    UT. I’ve also studied the TBA method of AP (American Pugilism) Boxing (one of the TBA’s

    component parts).

    I have studied CSW since 2000 as well under Brandon Kiser (Utah State CSW

    Representative), Coach Will Bernales, Ajarn Greg Nelson and Sensei Erik Paulson. I have

    achieved a rank of Coach Level 3. I am currently taking 2 lessons a week in CSW. One

    under Coach Kiser and 1 under Khuen Khru Will Bernales. I have supplemented this with 5,

    3 day CSW camps in CA with Sensei Paulson, Ajarn Greg Nelson, and whomever he brings

    out as guest instructors (Sifu Larry Hartsell, Ricco Chiaparelli, Sean Sherk, Marvin Cook). Inaddition I have attended 3 seminars in Utah under Sensei Paulson.

    In passing I’ve worked on Kali and Silat (more Kali than Silat), as well as picked up a Brown

    Belt in Taekwon-Do.

    I think that every art has something to offer and every teacher can give you a real unique

    insight into the game. I try to keep an open mind and train in as much as I can. I am saving

    Kali, Yoga and Tai Chi for my older days when I am no longer able to move as well in the

    more combative, contact oriented arts… a time that has been creeping up on me fast!

    As my Instructor Khuen Khru Will likes to say, it’s not the years it’s the hours. I studied

    under Khuen Khru two or three times as much in my younger years but since that time,

    family commitments and running my own school have slowed me down a bit. But I feel

    Page 14 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    15/18

    that constant and consistent training under skilled instructors such as Khuen Khru Will and

    my other mentors is essential to continued growth and progress.

    Reply

     Dr Sick October 16, 2009 at 12:47 am 

    I also have to thank all those who have contributed to the efforts to Damage Control MMA

    and Taking It To The MMAT, I have learned a great deal from these contributors and their

    wonderful techniques! Thank you!!!

    Reply

     Coach RandyOctober 16, 2009 at 9:06 pm 

    Ok Brian/Dr, Sick,

    I’m still catching my breath from reading your resume or life time committment of

    learning, however I do commend you. I don’t exactly agree with Dan Inosanto’s

    explanation of “Once a fruit ripens, it can then only grow stale and rot.” If you follow

    football, the ever popular ‘Wildcat Formation’ is really stemmed from the old Double Wing

    Formation with tweaks in rotations, motion and formation. I know this is a forum about

    Kris Iatskevich’s history and explanation of CACC but it parallels what I just described

    about the “Wildcat Offense”. Basically influence, education, assimilation, progression andexecution determines the finish product. I wish you all the best in your lifetime endeavor

    of the martial arts.

    I for one do not have the time, money or interest to dabble into other styles UNLESS I

    know it can compliment my concepts, style, philosophy and overall objective-WINNING.

    Reply

     Dr Sick October 16, 2009 at 10:32 pm 

    Coach Randy,

    May I respectfully ask, what if the game changes? If everyone adhered to the ripened fruit

    mentality, we’d still be seeing granny shots in basketball. The slam dunk was not created

    by those who allowed themselves to be content with a ripened view of the game and their

    own potential. The ripened vision of basketball would never have allowed for the

    development of the post up and triangle offense. The game has shifted due to zone vs. no

    zone defense being allowed and disallowed.

    In MMA, the game has also seen changes over the years which can cause a shift in tactics

    and training. The addition of time limits is a big factor IMHO. No longer is it a question of

    Page 15 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    16/18

    whether or not you can submit or knock someone out. It’s a question of whether or not

    you can submit or knock someone out in 5 minutes or less (for pros). If you keep training

    fighters to use the “wait it out” style prevelent in the early days I don’t think it’s going to

    help anyone’s objectives of winning.

     Judo has just recently outlawed any wrestling style leg shots. This will change the game.

    How it is scored, how it is played, and how it is practiced and trained. Those fixed on the

    old way of doing things will be left in the past, those who adapt and develop new

    strategies and tactics based on the new rule structures will be the ones in the winning

    circle. This requires change, and a mindset accustomed to new ways of thinking and

    perceiving advantages.

    Regardless of the sport, I think a continued education is very helful in creating a “winning”

    strategy. You may not use the new material for your own game, but you are at least

    familiar with how someone else may attack you. Take the “Rubber Guard” stuff for

    example. Whether you use it or not, it is helpful to be familiar with it so that you

    understand the mindset and capabilities of your opponents.

    I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m asking a question and offering other points of view. There

    are those who can ripen, stop their education and win everything they do. I am not one of

    them. But to be honest, winning isn’t my primary personal goal. I just enjoy learning the art

    for the art sake. I’m in it to meet wonderful people. That is how I feel I win.

    Best of luck and thank you for supporting Damage Control MMA.

    Reply

     Coach RandyOctober 17, 2009 at 1:42 pm 

    Brian/Dr. Sick

    What you had stated basically agrees with what I had stated;

    “the ever popular ‘Wildcat Formation’ is really stemmed from the old Double Wing

    Formation with tweaks in rotations, motion and formation”

    As to your question, ‘what if the game changes?’ for which I had stated;

    “Basically influence, education, assimilation, progression and execution determines the

    finishED (typo error) product.” However, its never truly finished as people will come up

    with schemes to defend it for which its is your responsibility to counter-the-counter. As

    Billy Robinson had said in an interview, “Physical chess match.”

    I wasn’t there when you spoke to Dan Inosanto and perhaps there should be more

    clarification but I’m going by what you had stated in an earlier post and I just don’t agree

    with the ‘ripened fruit’ theory. If you met my wife, she will take ripe fruit and make wine;

    mince/chop it up for homemade ice cream flavors, make cakes and pies or pickle them for

    a later date. Basically, if you feel your fruit has ripened much to say like how some people

    refer to themselves as being ‘old school’ then I can see where you can grow stale, not just

    Page 16 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    17/18

    for your own sake but for your students/athletes as well. I for one make adjustments on a

    need-only basis not to go along with the old cliche of “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” but it is

    my duty to asses needs and weaknesses.

    Another thing you have to understand, if you are learning/doing just to meet people,

    personal development or as a hobby you are defnitely in a different scope than I am or

    any other coach for that matter. People can tolerate a loss here and there, continued

    losing will not only force you to take a look at yourself, you’ll be out of a job!

    Reply

     Coach RandyOctober 21, 2009 at 10:45 am 

    I am a full time student of the arts. . .The more I know, the more I know I don’t know.

    Brian/Dr. Sick

    You stated the following above. This is just a suggestion if/when you decide to do it, its up

    to you. Get a stack of flash cards-since you study alot of arts then get a very big stack.

    Write every SINGLE move you know from CACC-BJJ-Boxing-Muay Thai-Judo-Kali-Silat-Tae

    Kwon Do & Wrestling.

    Based on your own personal proficiency of each move score it from 1-10. Each card scored

    10-9, have it rubber banded and set to the side. Each card scored 8-6, do the same BUT

    put a post it note on it saying, WORK ON IT. Each card scored 5-1, just rubber band it and

    put a post it note on it saying, FOR A LATER DATE.

    Put yourself in situations like distance, positions, height, weight, strength

    advantages/disadvantages and see how 10-6 stood the test. Keep a journal of your

    findings.

    Best to you.

    Reply

     MABookGeekOctober 28, 2009 at 12:33 am 

    Great Article. Do you happen to know the source material for that CACC poster? It looks

    like it’s from a French book. I like to collect old Judo/Jiujitsu/Grappling books, that’s why I

    ask.

    Reply

     SylvainDecember 12, 2009 at 11:48 am 

    Page 17 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    01/06/2016http://damagecontrolmma.com/2009/08/modern-catch-as-catch-can-written-by-kris-iat...

  • 8/15/2019 Modern Catch as Catch Can Written by Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA

    18/18

     

    Salut Kris! I think that if I had to choose a sentence to resume your article, that would be

    the one where you say : “Catch is rigorously individualistic”. I think that the mind of your

    great article, is that we are always in process to re-invent and to rediscover the infinite

    ways of how to wrestle. The evolution of wrestling pass through the knowledge of the

    basic in different styles and to perfect what we are confortable with.

    I must say that I love your approach of complementarity between different styles and that

    none can pretend to be the only way.

    You are not just a great coach, you are a wise man.

    Reply

     full one war machineSeptember 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm 

    will some one formalize catch wrestling ?

    what about bringing over kazushi and a dozen helpers and make a USA league.

    how come we dont bring over boat loads of sambo teachers from russia to help copeate

    against all them bjj-er`s.

    Reply

    Be the first of your friends to like this

    Damage Control…

    2,784 likes

    Share

    © 2014 Damage Control MMA - Damage Control MMA 2014 WordPress Theme by Kriesi 

     

    Page 18 sur 18Modern Catch As Catch Can: Written By Kris Iatskevich - Damage Control MMA


Recommended