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National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471 Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org M E M O R A N D U M TO: Technical Committee on Liquefied Natural Gas FROM: Colleen Kelly, Administrator Technical Projects DATE: October 20, 2015 SUBJECT: NFPA 59A Proposed Tentative Interim Amendment (TIA) No. 1187RPublic Comment Review The attached Public Comments are being submitted to you for review. If you wish to change your vote, the change must be received at NFPA on or before Monday, October 26, 2015. Ballot changes may be submitted to Colleen Kelly via email to [email protected] or fax to 617-770-0700. If you do not wish to change your vote, no response is necessary. The return of ballots is required by the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards. Attachment: Public Comment(s) cc: Standards Administration
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National Fire Protection Association

1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471

Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

M E M O R A N D U M

TO: Technical Committee on Liquefied Natural Gas

FROM: Colleen Kelly, Administrator – Technical Projects

DATE: October 20, 2015

SUBJECT: NFPA 59A Proposed Tentative Interim Amendment (TIA) No.

1187R– Public Comment Review

The attached Public Comments are being submitted to you for review.

If you wish to change your vote, the change must be received at NFPA on or before

Monday, October 26, 2015. Ballot changes may be submitted to Colleen Kelly via

email to [email protected] or fax to 617-770-0700. If you do not wish to change your

vote, no response is necessary.

The return of ballots is required by the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA

Standards.

Attachment: Public Comment(s)

cc: Standards Administration

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Foran, Rosanne

From: Laurent Ducoup <[email protected]>Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 7:42 AMTo: TIAsSubject: Comments on TIA n° 1187 - NFPA59A

Good Morning, I would like to reiterate my support for the revision of NFPA 59A to include the membrane technology. As a specialist of cryogenic storage, I believe that the final requirements are quite detailed and very prescriptive, and well in line with the existing European Standard, EN14620. So I have no more comment. Hoping that the new update will be issued soon. Best regards, Laurent DUCOUP Technical Director

Tel : +33147404521 Mob : +33685905757 Email : [email protected]

 

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From: Hjorteset, Kåre <[email protected]>Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:57 AMTo: Kelly, Colleen; TIAsCc: Krstulovic-Opara Neven ([email protected]); Rolf Pawski P.E., S.E.

([email protected]); Legatos A. Nicholas ([email protected]); Richard A. Hoffmann P.E. ([email protected])

Subject: TIA Log No.: 1187R - NFPA 59A - Comment

Dear Colleen Kelly,   I am writing to you as Chairperson of American Concrete Institute (ACI) Committee 376 ‐ “Concrete Structures for Refrigerated Liquefied Gas Containment”.     I have reviewed TIA Log No.: 1187R and the memorandum “NFPA 59A Proposed TIA No. 1187R PRELIMINARY BALLOT RESULTS”.     I support implementing proposed text into NFPA 59A on technical merit as an interim document.  After implementation of this text, ACI 376 committee will update the ACI 376 code “Code Requirements for Design and Construction of Concrete Structures for Containment of Refrigerated Liquefied Gases and Commentary” as required.  I do not think that implementing the proposed text will create any conflict between standards.   Best regards, Kåre  Kåre HJORTESET M.Sc Principal Engineer, Concrete Structures DNV GL – Oil & Gas   E-mail [email protected] Mobile +47 911 38 484  www.dnvgl.com | LinkedIn   << OLE Object: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) >>  DNV and GL have merged to form DNV GL- Read more here: www.dnvgl.com/merger      ************************************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain confidential information and/or information protected by intellectual property rights for the exclusive attention of the intended addressees named above. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message and its attachments. Unauthorized use, copying or further full or partial distribution of this e-mail or its contents is prohibited. ************************************************************************************** 

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From: Maynard, MarySent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:54 AMTo: Foran, Rosanne; Fuller, LindaSubject: FW: Comment on Proposed TIA 1187R on NFPA 59AAttachments: (COVER)RECOMMENDED PRACTICE FOR LNG INGROUND STORAGE(FGA

RP-107-02).pdf; CONTENTS.pdf; Comments on TIA1187R by IHI 16 Oct 2015.docx

  

From: 高橋 雅樹 [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:18 AM To: TIAs <[email protected]> Cc: Shapiro, Janna <[email protected]>; Maynard, Mary <[email protected]> Subject: Comment on Proposed TIA 1187R on NFPA 59A 

Attn: NFPA59A Standards Council, Herewith attached is MS Word file which describes comments on TIA1187R on NFPA59A. Please find the attached file. The comments I am sending are same as I’ve submitted in 18 Jun 2015. I just re-arrange my comments from PDF to MS word format that you can take a look easily. Hope you take my comments into account seriously. Please note EN14620 is not only standard which describe membrane tank in the world. Although it is well organized, I don’t know why NFPA59A heavily depend on EN14620. Membrane tank system have been developed by a few companies and used in a few countries. Japan is one of them. For example, Japan Gas Association has issued “Recommended Practice for LNG Inground Tank” which describes a lot ofmore details of membrane than EN14620. It is more like a detail design standard and may not fit NFPA59A purpose. However, I suggest you to take a look that before you go further. Here are cover page and table of contents of that for your reference. Best regards, Masaki Takahashi / IHI ******************************************* Masaki Takahashi Manager Tankage Engineering Group, Engineering Department Plant Project Center Energy & Plant Operations IHI Corporation Tel: +81-3-6204-7619 E-mail: [email protected] *******************************************

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Comments on TIA1187R of NFPA59A 16 Oct 2015 commented by IHI Note: Please take a look at wording highlighted in yellow and changed by light blue letter. Reasons for the delete or change are also described in

following part. All of them have been submitted on 18 Jun 2015. Some of wording written in red letter were given by TIA liaison as personal notes. I add them also for reference purpose. NFPA 59A-Proposed 2016 Edition

Standard for the Production, Storage, and Handling of Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG)

TIA Log No.: 1187R

Reference: Various

Comment Closing Date: October 16, 2015

Submitter: Adnan Ezzarhouni, GTT

1. Add new entry to Subsection 2.3.12 to read as follows:

EN14620-1 through 5, (2006) Design and manufacture of site built, vertical, cylindrical,

flat-bottomed, steel tanks for the storage of refrigerated, liquefied gases with operating

temperatures between 0 °C and -165 °C PARTS 1 – 5.

CEB Bulletin 187 (1988) Concrete Structures under Impact and Impulsive Loading.

2. Add new 3.3.4.3.3* and Annex to read as follows (renumber current 3.3.4.3.3 as

3.3.4.3.4):

3.3.4.3.3* Membrane Containment Tank System. A tank system consisting of a thin

metal liquid barrier and load-bearing thermal insulation supported by a self-standing

outer concrete container jointly forming an integrated composite tank structure designed

to contain liquid and vapor during tank operation as well as LNG in the event of leakage

from the liquid barrier, and where the vapor-containing roof of the outer container is

either steel or concrete configured such that the excess vapor caused by a spill of LNG

from the liquid barrier will discharge through the relief valves.

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015: Add descriptions about conditions how

insulation layer and outer tank would be when the leakage happens.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015: This is a definition. The task group agrees that

this is not a good place for a description.

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A.3.3.4.3.3 A membrane containment tank system consists of a thin metal liquid- and

vapor-tight barrier resting against load-bearing thermal insulation and supported by a

free-standing outer pre-stressed concrete container. In normal conditions, primary liquid

and vapor containment is provided by a thin metallic barrier which is structurally

supported via load-bearing insulation on an outer pre-stressed concrete container. Under

these conditions primary vapor containment is provided by a thin metallic barrier which

is connected to the metallic roof liner. In emergency conditions, the secondary liquid

and vapor containment is provided by an outer prestressed concrete container and

metallic roof liner. The outer container must be capable of both containing the liquid

product and controlling the vapor resulting from evaporation. In this instance the

vapor generated from the leakage is discharged through pressure relief valves located in

the roof. Vapor losses due to permeability through the outer pre-stressed concrete are

acceptable while the wall is containing liquid in the event of leakage from the thin metal

barrier and insulation system. The roof of the outer pre-stressed concrete container may

be concrete or steel. Significant design issues arise at the monolithic base-to-wall

connection due to the mechanical restraint offered by the base. To mitigate these issues,

a secondary liquid containment barrier inside the insulation system across the entire

bottom and part of the wall in the vicinity of the base-to-wall joint is to be provided to

protect and thermally isolate this area from the cold liquid and provide liquid-tightness.

Other alternatives of the monolithic base-to-wall are described in ACI376.

3.3.4.3. 4* Single Containment Tank System.

A single wall container or a double wall tank system in which only the self-supporting

primary or inner container is designed to contain LNG.

3. Revise 5.3.1.1(4) to read as follows:

5.3.1.1 Provisions shall be made to minimize the potential of accidental discharge of

LNG at containers, pipelines containing LNG, and other equipment such that a is charge

from any of these does not endanger adjoining property or important process equipment

and structures or reach waterways. LNG containers shall be provided with one of the

following methods to contain any release:

(1) An impounding area surrounding the container(s) that is formed by a natural

barrier, dike, impounding wall, or combination thereof complying with 5.3.2 and

5.3.3

(2) An impounding area formed by a natural barrier, dike, excavation, impounding

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wall, or combination thereof complying with 5.3.2 and 5.3.3, plus a natural or

man-made drainage system surrounding the container(s) that complies with 5.3.2

and 5.3.3

(3) Where the container is constructed below or partially below the surrounding

grade, an impounding area formed by excavation complying with 5.3.2 and 5.3.3

(4) Secondary containment as required for double, full, or membrane containment

tank systems complying with 5.3.2 and 5.3.3.

4. Revise 5.3.2.5* and Annex to read as follows:

5.3.2.5* Dikes and impounding walls shall meet the following requirements:

(1) Dikes, impounding walls, drainage systems, and any penetrations thereof shall be

designed to withstand the full hydrostatic head of impounded LNG or flammable

refrigerant, the effect of rapid cooling to the temperature of the liquid to be

confined, any anticipated fire exposure, and natural forces, such as earthquakes,

wind, and rain.

(2) Where the outer shell of a tank system double wall tank complies with the

requirements of 5.3.1.1, the dike shall be either the outer shell or as specified in

5.3.1.1.

A.5.3.2.5 Section 7.2.1.1 requires compliance with API 625. API 625 paragraph 5.6

requires the selection of storage concept to be based on a risk assessment. API 625

Annex C discusses implications of a release of liquid from the primary liquid container

and provides specific discussion related to each containment type. API 625 Annex D

provides guidance for selection of storage concepts as part of the risk assessment

including external and internal events and hazards to be evaluated. Paragraph D.3.2.2

discusses the possibility of sudden failure of the inner tank and advises “if extra

protection from brittle fracture” (or unabated ductile crack propagation) “is desired, the

general practice is to increase the” primary container toughness. Available materials

meeting the required specifications of API 620 Appendix Q (and this standard) for LNG

service are considered to have crack-arrest properties at LNG service temperature and

stress levels. Therefore, rapid failure of a steel primary container meeting this standard

is not considered credible. In membrane containment tank systems, brittle fracture of

membrane material is typically not a pertinent hazard for membrane tanks. However,

other hazards based on a risk assessment should be considered.

5. Revise 5.3.2.7 to read as follows:

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5.3.2.7 Double, and full, and membrane containment tank systems shall be designed and

constructed such that in the case of a fire in an adjacent tank, the secondary container

shall retain sufficient structural integrity to prevent collapse, which can cause damage to

and leakage from the primary container.

6. Revise 5.3.2.8 to read as follows:

5.3.2.8 Double, and full, and membrane containment tank systems shall have no pipe

penetrations below the liquid level.

7. Revise 5.3.4.2 and add new 5.3.4.2.1 to read as follows:

5.3.4.2 Double, full, and double membrane containment tank systems of greater than

70,000 gal (265m3) water capacity shall be separated from adjacent LNG storage

containers such that a fire in an adjacent single or double containment impoundment or

from a design spill will not cause loss of containment from adjacent containers. This

shall be accomplished by ensuring that no part of the adjacent storage container roof,

walls, or its impoundment structure reaches a temperature at which the strength of the

material of the container roof, wall, or its impoundment is reduced to a level where the

LNG tank, roof, or impoundment loses its structural integrity….

5.3.4.2.1 The outer concrete container shall be designed for the external fire in

accordance with ACI 376 unless fire protection measures are provided. The outer tank

thermal analysis shall be performed to determine temperature distribution for the heat

flux and duration of exposure as specified in the fire risk assessment within API 625.

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : To be replaced with "should", because ACI376

5.1.16 requires the same if it is required by project.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : The task group agrees that ACI is a must, and not an

option. Mandatory language ("shall") needs to be used here.

(1) The applicable load components and the ultimate state load factors for the fire

load combinations shall be in accordance with ACI 376 Table 7.3. For membrane

tanks, an additional liquid pressure load in accordance with ACI 376 Table 7.2

shall be included.

(2) The design of the outer concrete container shall take into account the following

factors:

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(a) Reduction in the wall post-tensioning due to the difference in the coefficient thermal

expansion of post-tensioning steel and wall concrete at the temperature to which the

posttensioning steel is exposed. The effects of the concrete aggregate type on the

concrete coefficient thermal expansion shall be considered;

(b) Reduction in strength and modulus of elasticity of the outer tank concrete,

reinforcing and post-tensioning steel due to elevated temperature;

(c) Reduction in the wall post-tensioning due to pre-stressing steel softening and

relaxation at elevated temperature;

(3) The concrete wall, including the wall concrete mix, shall be designed to avoid

explosive spalling.

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : should

<Reason of change>

There is no description about Spalling in ACI376.

8. Revise 7.2.1.1 to read as follows:

7.2.1.1 Storage tank systems shall comply with the requirements of API 625, Tank

Systems for Refrigerated Liquefied Gas Storage, including membrane containment tank

systems, and the additional provisions of this chapter. The API 625 risk assessment

shall be approved by the AHJ.

9. Add new 7.2.1.4 and 7.2.1.5 and renumber current 7.2.1.4 to read as follows:

7.2.1.4 The metallic membrane, load-bearing insulation, and the outer container

moisture barrier specific to the membrane tank system shall comply with EN 14620

parts 1-5 for material selection, design, installation, examination, and testing and further

requirements of 7.4. All other components of the membrane tank system shall comply

with API625, API620, ACI376 and additional requirements in Section 7.4.

7.2.1.5 All the membrane system components, including insulation, primary membrane,

and the secondary barrier of the thermal protection system, shall be designed in such a

way that they can withstand all possible static and dynamic actions throughout the tank

lifetime.

7.2.1.6 Should any conflict exist between the above requirements, the most stringent

requirement shall apply.

10. Revise 7.3.1.2 (A) to read as follows:

7.3.1.2 All piping that is a part of an LNG tank system shall comply with requirements

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in this chapter and requirements within API 625.

(A) Tank system piping shall include all piping internal to the container, within

insulation spaces and within void spaces, external piping attached or connected to the

container up to the first circumferential external joint of the piping, and external piping

serving only tank instrumentation (including tank pressure relief valves). All liquid

piping with a source of external line pressure shall be designed for the external line

relief valve setting but not less than 50 psi (345 kPa). Double, and full, and membrane

containment tank systems shall have no pipe penetrations below the liquid level

11. Revise 7.3.3.2, 7.3.3.2(A), and 7.3.3.2(C) and add new (D) to read as follows:

7.3.3.2 The space between the inner container and the outer container shall contain

insulation that is compatible with LNG and natural gas and that is noncombustible as

installed for normal service and abnormal conditions.

(A) A fire external to the outer tank shall not cause a reduction of the insulation thermal

conductivity due to melting or settling to the internal containment system performance

due to damage to any component of the insulation systems.

(B) The load-bearing bottom insulation shall be designed and installed so that cracking

from thermal and mechanical stresses does not jeopardize the integrity of the container.

(C) For tank systems other than membrane containment tank system, Oonly materials

used between the inner and outer tank bottoms (floors) shall not be required to meet the

combustibility requirements, where the material and the design of the installation

comply with all of the following:

(1) The flame spread index of the material shall not exceed 25, and the material shall

not support continued progressive combustion in air.

(2) The material shall be of such composition that surfaces that would be exposed by

cutting through the material on any plane shall have a flame spread index not

greater than 25 and shall not support continued progressive combustion.

(3) It shall be shown by test that the combustion properties of the material do not

increase significantly as a result of long-term exposure to LNG or natural gas at the

anticipated service pressure and temperature.

(4) The materials in the installed condition shall be demonstrated to be capable of

being purged of natural gas.

(5) The natural gas remaining after purging shall not be significant and shall not

increase the combustibility of the material.

(D) For membrane containment tank systems, the insulation system block shall include

a non-foam cover (underneath the primary membrane) and shall include a welding

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thermal protection system in order to withstand all heat from welding during installation

and during maintenance, if any.

12. Add a new 7.4.2.3 to read as follows:

7.4.2.3 For membrane containment tank systems, weld procedure and production weld

testing shall comply with EN14620 part 2 and the following requirements:

7.4.2.3.1 Qualification of Welders. All personnel associated with the welding

fabrication of the membrane system shall be qualified by the manufacturer per an

agreed upon schedule between the purchaser, the AHJ, and the fabricator. All records

shall be available for review.

7.4.2.3.2 Inspection. 100% of all welding shall be visually inspected

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : inspected by visual, dye penetrant inspection

and tracer gas, such as NH3 gas, leakage test. If hydrostatic test will be done

after completion of the membrane, the tracer gas leakage test shall be done

after the hydrostatic test.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : Inspection by visual, DPT, etc. is already addressed further

below. Hydrostatic test is done after moisture barrier, not after primary

membrane completion, as per EN standard

Bead placement and consistency shall be, at a minimum, documented by digital means

for review by supervisory personnel.

The personnel performing this visual inspection shall be qualified to an accepted

standard for this inspection work.

Upon cooldown of the welds to room temperature, provisions shall be made to perform

a penetrant

inspection (PT) of 100% of all welding at least 5% of each weld type each day. The

selection factors include orientation, welding direction, and complexity of welding

being performed.

a) All profiles and configurations of welds shall be subjected to this 5% requirement.

The selection of this 5% sample shall be agreed upon by the fabricator, customer’s

representative, and the AHJ.

b) The acceptance standard for this inspection technique shall be agreed upon by all

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parties.

c) Any indications require an additional 5% penetrant inspection of the total distance

welded by each welder. Inspection after completion of membrane shall be performed at

the completion of the installation of the membrane, and represents the last step prior to

the cooldown of the tank to service temperature.

After completion of the membrane, a leakage test shall be performed. Leakage shall be

determined as agreed upon by the fabricator and customer.

Tracer gas for this leak test shall be in accordance with approved procedure. All areas

where leakage exceeds limit shall be repaired per 7.4.2.3.2, the manufacturer’s approved

procedure and re-inspected.

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : Reason of delete

As I commented the above, visual, dye penetrant and tracer gas test shall be

done for all welding joints for membrane. They can be done after completion

of the weld, don't have to be inspected everyday basis.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : The 59A committee feels that additional detail on

weld inspecting and quality is required.

In parallel, mechanical stress testing of the welding joints shall be performed by

applying 3 cycles from atmospheric pressure to +20 mbarg inside the insulation space,

with the pressure maintained, for a minimum time of 30 minutes. Data shall be

recorded.

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : Reason of delete

Membrane stress testing of the welding joints should be done if it is

necessary for each membrane configuration to be proven to meet the

specified design condition.

7.4.2.3.3 Post-Repair Inspection. Additional tracer gas testing shall be performed if

more than 4 leaks per 1,000 m² of membrane are identified.

All repaired areas shall be visually inspected (VT), vacuum box (VB) tested, and dye

penetrant (PT) tested.

7.4.2.3.4 Final Global Test and Control During Dismantling Work.

This testing shall be in agreement with the approved test procedure and witnessed by all

parties. This represents the final acceptance testing of the completed membrane

structure following completion of its installation in the structural outer shell / container.

a) The overall tightness of the membrane shall be determined by establishing a pressure

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difference between the tank and the insulation space.

b) This pressurization allows gas flow through the membrane representative of potential

leaks on the membrane.

c) The potential leak(s) shall be characterized by measuring the oxygen content increase

in the primary insulated space as the tank is pressurized with dry air

d) The primary insulated space shall be regulated slightly above the atmospheric

pressure.

e) All test data, all records, documentation, and witness records shall be submitted to all

parties for their review and final acceptance.

Daily tightness check / monitoring shall be performed during dismantling work by

pulling vacuum inside insulated spaces. Any pressure rise is indicative of a leak and

must be reported and correction action taken.

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : Reason of delete

There are two different subjects in this section. One is Final Global Test and

the other is Control During Dismantling Work.

I don't believe Final Global test is necessary because each inspection(visual,

dye penetrant and tracer gas test) shall be done with a high reliability.

Regarding Control During Dismantling Work, it should be more complicated

than the description in this section. It shall be described in an independent

separate section or appendix.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : same comment as above

14. Revise 7.4.4.7 and add new 7.4.4.8 as follows:

7.4.4.7 The secondary liquid container or impounding system for single, double or full

containment tanks shall, as a minimum, be designed to withstand an SSE while empty

and an ALE while holding a volume equivalent to the primary containment liquid at the

maximum normal operating level as defined in API 625.

7.4.4.8 For the membrane tank system, all components of the product-containing

structure, including liquid barrier, insulation system, thermal corner protection system

(see 7.4.7.1), and the outer concrete tank, shall be designed to withstand without failure

an SSE event with the tank filled to the maximum normal operating level. The outer

concrete tank and the thermal corner protection shall be designed to withstand an ALE

with a tank full to the maximum normal operating level assuming that the membrane

is failed and the outer tank wall and thermal corner protection system are exposed to

LNG.

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15. Add a new 7.4.4.12 to read as follows:

7.4.4.12 The outer concrete tank analysis and design for the major leak and major leak

plus ALE aftershock event shall take into account any damage that may have occurred

to the outer concrete tank due to prior events including the SSE earthquake. The outer

concrete tank shall be considered as undamaged during the prior SSE event if the

following conditions are met:

(1) Tensile stresses in the reinforcing steel do not exceed 90% of the reinforcing steel

yield

(2) Maximum concrete compressive stresses do not exceed 85% of the concrete

design compressive strength.

Otherwise, the prior damage shall be taken into account in the spill analysis.

16. Add new 7.4.6.5 and Annex to read as follow

7.4.6.5* Membrane containment tank systems shall be tested in accordance with EN

14620 Part 5 Table 1. The leakage test, as defined in the Note under EN 14620 Part 5

paragraph 4.1.1, shall be performed. Leakage through the membrane to the insulation

space during service must be controlled in order to maintain gas concentration level

below 30% of the LEL by sweeping the insulated space with N2. If the gas

concentration cannot be maintained below 30% LEL the tank must be decommissioned

and retested. For purposes of evaluating this level, the flow of purge gas within the

annular space shall not be increased above the normal operating rate.

A.7.4.6.5 EN 14620 Part 5 Table 1 requires the outer concrete tank to be hydrostatically

tested prior to installing insulation and the membrane. The membrane is leak tested after

all welding is completed. A retest is required following repairs to close leaks. An

insulation space monitoring system is required by EN 14620 Part 1 paragraph 7.2.1.8

which is intended to identify any leaks of LNG gas or vapor into the space between the

membrane and the wall.

7.4.6.6 All the membrane system components, including insulation, primary membrane,

and the secondary barrier of the thermal protection system, shall be designed in such a

way that they can withstand all possible static and dynamic actions throughout the tank

lifetime.

13. Revise 7.4.4.6(C) as follows:

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(C) The SSE design shall provide for no loss of containment capability of the primary

container of single, double and full containment tank systems and of the metal liquid

barrier of membrane tank system, and it shall be possible to isolate and maintain the

LNG tank system during and after the SSE

17. Add new 7.4.6.6 to read as follows:

7.4.6.7 Verification of all components of the membrane containment tank system design

shall be proven by experimental data from model tests or calculations. shall be

carried out

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : to be changed as shown above.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : Model test is required per EN standard

18. Add a new Subsection 7.4.7 to read as follows:

7.4.7 Additional Requirements for Membrane containment tank system.

7.4.7.1 A thermal corner protection system functionally identical to the thermal corner

protection system for concrete tanks defined in API625 Section 6 shall be provided for

the outer concrete tank of the membrane tank system. The thermal corner protection

shall protect the outer tank entire bottom and at least lower 16.5 feet (5m) of the wall

from thermal shock and shall be liquid tight when it is in contact with LNG and

vaportight in all conditions. The thermal corner protection system shall be permitted to

be either metallic or from nonmetallic materials compatible with LNG and shall

maintain structural integrity and liquid/gas tightness under all applicable mechanical

and thermal loads. The membrane containment tank system supplier shall provide tests

independently witnessed and verified by a third party agency clearly demonstrating the

leak tightness of all the thermal corner system under spill conditions. Historical tests

shall be acceptable provided that construction processes and materials of construction

are the same as those proposed. Nondestructive examination (NDE) performed

on the secondary barrier and NDE acceptance criteria shall ensure that provided

tightness is equivalent to the tightness provided by the metallic thermal corner

protection system of the full containment tank system.

7.4.7.2 The outer concrete container of the membrane containment tank system shall

meet all requirements of ACI376 for the secondary concrete container including

materials, design, construction, inspection, and testing and the additional requirements

specified below:

7.4.7.2.1 The product liquid pressure shall be a design load for the outer concrete tank.

Liquid product pressure ultimate limit state (ULS) load factors for operating and

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abnormal loading conditions shall be in accordance with Table 7.2 of ACI376.

7.4.7.2.2 The outer concrete container wall and slab-to-wall junction shall be checked

for fatigue assuming four full load-unload cycles a week for the expected life of the tank.

Performance criteria of ACI376 Appendix C shall apply.

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : <Reason of delete>

Fatigue design of the concrete is not commonly used. Also design condition

shall be as per customer's requirement, not "for full load unload cycles a

week". Performance criteria shown in ACI376 App.C is mainly for off-shore

structure. It may not be suitable for land base LNG tank.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : Task group wanted to define minimum cyclic loading

7.4.7.2.3 The outer concrete container wall shall resist the specified impact load without

perforation and scabbing.

A) The concrete wall thickness shall be at least 40% greater than the scabbing depth

calculated per CEB 187 Section 4.1.2.2

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : <Reason of delete>

CEB, which is Comite Euro-International Du Beton, doesn't look suitable for

NFPA59A, since similar evaluation can be done by ACI376 8.4.12.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : This section was added by two task group members

B) The concrete wall thickness shall be at least 20% greater than the perforation

thickness calculated per CEB 187 Section 4.1.1.1

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : <Reason of delete>

CEB, which is Comite Euro-International Du Beton, doesn't look suitable for

NFPA59A, since similar evaluation can be done by ACI376 8.4.12.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : This section was added by two task group members

C) The tank shall be designed so that either one of the following is satisfied;

1. The distance between the outer face of the concrete container measured to the

centroid of the pre-stressing tendons shall be greater than the penetration depth

calculated as per CEB 187 Section 4.1.2.1 with the following allowances for

uncertainty;

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : <Reason of delete>

CEB, which is Comite Euro-International Du Beton, doesn't look suitable for

NFPA59A, since similar evaluation can be done by ACI376 8.4.12.

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J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : This section was added by two task group members

・ 20 % thicker than the penetration depth when z > 0.75

・ 50% thicker than the penetration depth when <= 0.75.

2. The tank shall be designed to be able to resist normal operating loads with any one

horizontal tendon completely ineffective.

D) For concrete walls post-tensioned with a wire wrapping system, the wall shall be

designed to resist normal operating loads with the wires affected by a specified impact

load considered completely ineffective. No unwrapping of the post-tensioning wires

shall be allowed.

7.4.7.2.4 At a minimum, the outer concrete container for the membrane tank system

shall meet the construction tolerances specified in ACI376. Where more stringent

tolerances are required by the membrane and insulation systems, the more stringent

tolerances shall be specified by the membrane tank engineer and be met by the tank

contractor.

7.4.7.2.5 The outer concrete container shall be hydrotested prior to or after

membrane and insulation installation following primary container hydrotest

requirements of API625 Section 10.

IHI Takahashi 18 Jun 2015 : <Reason of change>

Reinforced concrete may not be completely water tight. During the

hydrostatic test, inside surface of the RC may have cracks due to hoop stress.

They may reach to re-bar and there is potential risk of corrosion.

If the hydrostatic test is carried out after membrane installation, such

problem will be gone. the purpose of the test is to check from outside of the

tank if there is any harmless deformation. Even the membrane installation

has been done, it should not be a problem.

J. Shapiro 03 Oct 2015 : EN standard clearly states "prior"

19. Revise the title of Figure 10.7.2(e) to read as follows:

FIGURE 10.7.2(e) Full and Membrane Containment Container Tank Systems.

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20. Revise (3) to the Atmospheric Cryogenic Tanks section of Table 15.6.1 to read as

follows:

Table 15.6.1 Example Component Failure Database

Component Annual Probability of Failure

Atmospheric Cryogenic Tanks

(1) Instantaneous failure of primary container and outer shell, release of entire

contents (single containment tank) 5E-07

(2) Instantaneous failure of primary container and outer shell, release of entire

contents (double containment tank) 1.25E-08

(3) Instantaneous failure of primary and secondary container, release of entire

contents (full and membrane containment tank tanks) 1E-08

21. Revise B.3.4 to read as follows:

B.3.4 The impounding system must, as a minimum, be designed to withstand the SSE

level of loading while empty (and while full if a membrane containment tank system)

and the ALE level of loading while holding the volume, V, as specified in 7.4.4.7. The

rationale is that should the LNG container fail following an SSE, the impounding

system must remain intact and be able to contain the contents of the LNG container

when subjected to an aftershock.

Substantiation: In terms of technical substantiation, membrane containment system

tank is a full integrity system. This means the performance of the tank system shall be

similar to what is required of a full containment system:

‐ Able to store LNG and natural gas inside the tank in all normal operating conditions.

‐ Able to retain LNG and natural gas inside the tank, in all abnormal design conditions

(seismic, release of the LNG to the secondary container, external & internal hazards,

etc.)

In order to do so, all the safety and performance requirements for a full containment

shall be also applicable to membrane containment system. LNG tank storage has to

comply with other tank design codes. Currently, NFPA59A refers to API625 for LNG

tank overall design, ACI376 for civil tank design and API620 for mechanical design.

Membrane containment tank systems are fully addressed in EN14620 and partially in

ACI376. Relevant references to these standards have to be made in the proposed

standards. Currently, ACI376 does not fully include the membrane containment system,

so additional requirements have been added to close the gap. For membrane

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components exclusive to the technology, the language refers to EN14620, but additional

prescriptive requirements are added as agreed within the task group, in order to be more

conservative for membrane tanks in a first release.

Finally, all components in membrane containment tank systems which are similar to

other systems (roof, suspended deck, etc.) will be referred to the same American

standard.

PS : The Task Group members are (in addition to the submitter) : Brian Eisentrout,

CB&I/ Global Venture LNG ─ John Blanchard, CB&I ─ Jeff Baker, CB&I ─ Alex

Cooperman, CB&I ─ Don Coers, Coers and Company ─ Andrew Kohout, Federal

Energy Regulatory Commission ─ Richard Hoffmann,

Hoffmann & Feige ─ Marian Krol, Linde Engineering ─ Keith A. Mash, Shell

Emergency Nature: During March 2014 NFPA 59A meeting, public inputs were

reviewed. The Public Input No. 50-NFPA 59A-2013 put alert on Membrane

containment tank system, which was addressed on the Definition clause only. During

the meeting, TC agreed to remove the Membrane definition. However, in order not to

send the wrong signal to the LNG industry (such as the technology is not allowed), the

technical committee decided to create, on an urgent basis, a subcommittee (Task

Group) to prepare wording for inclusion of a full treatment of membrane containment

tank for issuance as a TIA coincidentally with the 2016 version. This subcommittee has

now completed its work and agreed wording is proposed as a TIA. Acceptance of this

TIA on an emergency basis is consistent with the following bases as prescribed in the

standard:

(f) The proposed TIA intends to correct a circumstance in which the revised NFPA

Standard has has resulted in an adverse impact on a product or method that was

inadvertently overlooked in the total revision process or was without adequate

technical (safety) justification for the action. In the absence of a TIA, membrane

containment systems will not be in NFPA 59A 2016 edition and will be deferred until

the next revision in 2018 (or 2019). From a practical standpoint, the absence of a TIA

will restrict competition in an important timeframe when LNG as fuel, particularly in

marine applications, is driving the development of LNG distribution and delivery

systems. Proponents who are seeking options are facing a significant barrier in terms

of regulatory uncertain without specific treatment of membrane tanks in NFPA 59A.

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Moreover, the timeframe for project development is such that developers cannot

practically consider membrane alternatives without using European Norms, Canadian or

other standards for references to membrane tanks.

PS: This TIA is an updated version of TIA 1187, following the review of TIA 1187

ballot comments from the NFPA 59A Technical Committee and TIA 1187 public

comments.

Anyone may submit a comment by the closing date indicated above. To submit a comment,

please identify the

number of the TIA and forward to the Secretary, Standards Council, 1 Batterymarch

Park, Quincy, MA 02169‐7471.

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From: Alex I Cooperman <[email protected]>Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:28 AMTo: TIAs; Foran, RosanneSubject: Comment on NFPA 59A TIA 1187RAttachments: ACooperman comments on TIA 1187R (10-15-15).docx

Dear Sir/Madam, Attached are my comments on NFPA 59A TIA 1187R. Regards,

Alex Cooperman, PE Principal Engineer Low Temperature & Cryogenic Structures Tel: +1 815 439 4083 Fax: +1 815 469 6560 [email protected] CB&I 14105 S. Route 59 Plainfield, IL 60544-898 United States www.CBI.com

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As a member of the Task Group contributing to the development of this TIA I would like to express my 

strong disagreement with some sections of this TIA as well as some responses to the public comments 

presented as a consensus opinion of the task group.  

Personally, I strongly disagree with assigning to the membrane tank system in Table 15.6.1 the same 

probability of instantaneous failure as the probability assigned to the full containment tank system.  

NFPA 59A Tbl. 15.6.1 provides the "Annual probability of instantaneous failure resulting in the release of the entire content", which is possible only in case of an instantaneous structural failure of the entire system. The instantaneous structural failure for a double or a full containment systems require a concurrent failure of both independent containers each capable of carrying a full LNG load, while in a membrane system, the structural failure of the outer container alone will result in the immediate release of the entire contents. The membrane tank system does not provide the same level of redundancy against instantaneous failure and release of the entire contents compared to the redundancy provided by either double or full containment systems and, therefore, cannot have the same low probability value in Tbl 15.6.1. The responses (presented on behalf of the task Task Group) to several public comments raising the same concerns, referred to the “public failure data base” for LNG tanks available to the public. What database? To my knowledge there are no known failures of any type of LNG tanks (single, double, full or 

membrane) built from either 9% Ni material or stainless steel. Following this logic any tank containment 

type: single, double, full or membrane must have the same probability of instantaneous failure, which is 

obviously incorrect. 

During discussion, Table 2.3 of the International Association of Oil and Gas Producer (OGP) report 434‐3 was referenced several times as a justification that the probabilities of failure for full containment and membrane systems are identical.  This justification is not appropriate or correct for the following reasons: 

1. The OGP report was developed based on the known failure instances of refrigerated tank 

structures for all kind of products, not just for LNG. It clearly states in Section 4.2 that vast 

majority of known failures were single‐wall ammonia tanks. Obviously those refrigerated tanks 

were designed to different standards, have different safety requirements, used different 

materials, NDE and testing requirements than LNG tanks. In addition, it is widely recognized that 

carbon steel ammonia tanks are subjected to stress corrosion cracking. The failures of ammonia 

or similar tanks cannot be extrapolated to LNG.  

2. The paragraph following Table 2.3 states that the structures subject to external loads such as 

wind, earthquake or impact are outside of the conclusions of this report and their likelihood of 

failure shall be specifically evaluated. As stated in the report: “A leak or rupture of the tank, 

releasing some or all of its contents, can be caused by brittle failure of tank walls, welds or 

connected pipework due to use of inadequate materials, combined with loading such as wind, 

earthquake or impact. Where there is the potential for such loading – in particular, in seismically 

active zones – specialist analysis of the failure likelihood should be sought. “  Obviously, for all 

LNG tanks exposure to external loads such as wind, seismic, impact and external fire must be 

considered. These external loads are in fact the major risks, especially for the membrane 

system, where any failure of the outer tank due to exposure to external loading will results in 

instantaneous LNG release. 

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3. The uncertainties of the presented data are acknowledged in Sections 3.2 and 4.2 of the report. 

4. Note 3 for Table 2.3 states for membrane and full containment tanks that “No collapse is 

considered for these tank types if they have a concrete roof”. All LNG membrane tanks built to‐

date have concrete roofs i.e. no possibility of collapse for those tanks was even considered in 

Tbl. 2.3 

Stating the same probability value of instantaneous failure for membrane tank as for the full 

containment tank is misleading to public safety. 

In my opinion, the Annual Probability Value of Instantaneous Failure resulting in release of the entire 

content appropriate for the membrane tank in NFPA 59A Table 15.6.1 shall be higher than for the 

double containment tanks let alone the full containment tank systems.  

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From: Maynard, MarySent: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:57 PMTo: Foran, RosanneSubject: FW: TIA : 1187R

Expires: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:00 AM

  

From: Sam Kumar [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: Shapiro, Janna <[email protected]>; Maynard, Mary <[email protected]> Subject: TIA : 1187R  

 To:    The Secretary, Standards Council, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA  From:              Sam Kumar – Independent LNG Consultant                         54 South Wind Drive, Montgomery, TX 77356, USA                         [email protected]  /  tel: +1 936 524 0873  Date:               16 October  2015  Reference:      NFPA 59A‐Proposed 2016 Edition                         TIA.: 1187R                         Reference: Various                         Comment Closing Date: October 16, 2015.  We have reviewed the proposed revisions/ additions issued under above TIA # 1187R and are in full support of these changes which will help guide the design the LNG Membrane Tanks.  Signed / Sam Kumar / 16th October 2015 Sam Kumar LNG Business Development Advisor Mobile +1 936 524 0873   

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From: Martin L. Tellalian <[email protected]>Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:22 PMTo: TIAs; Foran, RosanneCc: Mark D. ButtsSubject: CB&I Public Comments on NFPA 59A TIA 1187RAttachments: CB&I-Public-Comments-TIA1187R.docx

Rosanne, Mark Butts and I submitted public comments to the earlier version of this TIA but only some of the relatively minor CB&I comments were addressed in revised document which is currently out for public comment. The attached document contains the CB&I public comments to the NFPA 59A TIA 1187R. Thank you for the opportunity to provide our comments to this proposed revision to NFPA 59A. Please send a confirmation that our comments have been received and will be considered. Thank you, Marty (See attached file: CB&I-Public-Comments-TIA1187R.docx)

Martin L. Tellalian Manager, Civil/Structural Tank Design Office: +1 815 439 6517 Mobile: +1 708 955 4172 [email protected] CB&I 14107 S. Route 59 Plainfield, IL 60544-8984 www.cbi.com

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The CB&I refrigerated gas storage Engineering department has reviewed the updated proposed TIA No.: 1187R. We note that the revised version of the TIA has ignored all of CB&I’s major objections and only our relatively minor points have been incorporated. Therefore, we continue to recommend against passage based on three main points. 1) There is no credible emergency basis for making such a significant complex change to the standard. 2) The value proposed for “annual probability of failure” in table 15.6.1 is incorrect for the membrane tank system. 3) There are extensive errors, potential conflicts, and wording changes, which need to be resolved prior to passage of this change to the standard. The following paragraphs provide specific discussion on the major issues that remain unresolved. 1. Emergency Nature The basis provided in the TIA to justify the emergency nature of this TIA is not convincing. The proposed emergency changes do not meet the emergency nature criteria of NFPA Rules and Regs Section 5.4 and are substantially out of proportion in scope and complexity with the reason stated. If the basis is as urgent as stated, a better solution would be to put the definition removed by the committee back into the document. This could be handled by a NITMAM. The changes proposed are extensive and have an impact to the public safety. In addition, the timing of this TIA would make it applicable for 3 years, which stretches the “interim” basis of a TIA. Changes of this magnitude should receive the full revision process established for NFPA standards. Use of the full revision process would allow input from the API and ACI standards committees, which are referenced in the changes. 2. “Annual Probability of Failure” and resulting instantaneous release of the entire tank contents for “Atmospheric Cryogenic Tanks” in Table 15.6.1 The proposed change assigns the same annual probability of instantaneous failure to a membrane tank as is currently assigned to a full containment tank. This is not correct and must be corrected prior to TIA publication; otherwise risk profiles will not be appropriately addressed in facility design. The full containment and membrane tanks are two distinct tank types, each with unique configurations and related performance behavior. As such, each carries a different risk profile under various loading conditions. By providing two independent structural containers each independently capable of carrying the tank contents, a full containment tank concept has redundancy, which is not provided by a membrane tank concept. A failure of either primary or secondary container in the full containment concept will not result in the release of the entire contents. However, the failure of the outer tank for the membrane concept will result in the catastrophic release of the tank contents. To demonstrate the above point, the membrane concept is a thin flexible stainless steel membrane that transfers the liquid load through load bearing insulation to a single structural outer concrete tank component. The membrane tank concept does not provide two independent structural storage containers as are present in a conventional full containment tank. This is a fundamental difference that has a critical impact on various risk assessment scenarios. LNG tanks are typically designed for external loads including blast loads, projectile loads, and adjacent tank fires. All of these loading conditions have the potential to either weaken the concrete tank or cause localized damage. The outer tank of a conventional full containment tank

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can be subjected to significant damage with no impact on the liquid containing capability of the inner tank. The concrete tank of a membrane tank is the only structural component capable of resisting the hydrostatic forces of the product. Therefore, damage to the outer concrete tank of a membrane tank potentially reduces the capacity of the membrane tank to contain the liquid product. Thus, the plant design and risk assessment for the two concepts must be substantially different. 3. In addition to the fundamental issues discussed above Specific Comments by Paragraphs are provided below: A.3.3.4.3.3 – The propose wording includes the following statement. “... In normal conditions primary liquid containment is afforded by a thin metallic barrier which is structurally supported via load-bearing insulation and an outer pre-stressed concrete container. Under these conditions primary vapor containment is afforded by the thin metallic barrier which is connected to the metallic roof liner. In emergency conditions secondary liquid and vapor containment is afforded by an outer pre-stressed concrete container and metallic roof liner. …” This information is incorrect by stating that the membrane tank system has a “primary liquid containment” and “secondary liquid and vapor containment”. The membrane tank has only one containment structure as described in item 2 above. The information contained in the annex should be consistent with the definition in paragraph 3.3.4.3.3. This comment was submitted previously and was not addressed. A.5.3.2.5: This section points to API 625 section 5.6 and Annexes C and D for selection of a storage concept based on risk assessment. Specifically, this section states that “API 625 Annex D provides guidance for the selection of storage concepts as part of the risk assessment including external and internal events and hazards to be evaluated.” However, the referenced sections in API have no information on the membrane tank concept. It seems that this is a serious gap. In the comment below on 5.3.2.7, a difference is noted in the way a full containment tank system and a membrane tank system may react to damage to their secondary containers from external events. While such differences need to be added to the API document, it is premature to include these statements on the content of API until the API addresses all tank configurations. This comment was previously submitted and not addressed. 5.3.2.7: The simple addition of "and membrane" to the existing sentence creates an inaccurate picture of the situation resulting from a secondary container collapse. In a membrane tank system, if the concrete wall collapses, damage to and leakage from the primary container is not simply a possibility, it is a catastrophic certainty. This sentence should be revised to reflect a more accurate assessment. This comment was previously submitted and not addressed. 7.2.1.1: The added phrase "including membrane containment tank systems" implies that API 625 contains requirements for membrane tanks which it currently does not. Again, it is premature to include API references to membrane tanks when these references do not currently exist. This comment was previously submitted and not fully addressed.

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7.2.1.4: This proposed new section states that the metallic membrane is to comply with EN14620. But the existing 7.2.1.2 says that metal containers shall comply with API 620. That is a potential conflict. 7.2.1.2 could be worded "EXCEPT FOR METALLIC MEMBRANES IN MEMBRANE TANK SYSTEMS, metal containers that are part of ...." . This comment was previously submitted and not fully addressed. 7.3.3.2: What is meant by adding "as installed for normal service and abnormal conditions" to the rule about insulation being non-combustible? Membrane tanks typically have plywood and foam in their insulation systems. Are there any combustibility requirements for plywood and insulation? This comment was previously submitted and not fully addressed. 7.3.3.2(A): Taking out words prohibiting melting insulation during an external fire and replacing with a requirement to maintain containment seems like a major reduction in a NFPA59A performance standard. What is the justification for this? This comment was previously submitted and not fully addressed. 7.4.2.3.2: The requirement for digital means of documentation of bead placement and consistency is vague. The documentation should be required on 100% of the welds and should be clearly stated. This comment was previously submitted and not fully addressed. 7.4.2.3.2: Qualification of visual examination personnel to "an accepted standard" is too vague. The acceptance criteria and qualifications of the inspector should be stated. This comment was previously submitted and not addressed. 7.4.2.3.2: The proposed tracer gas testing requirements are very vague. For example, saying that "leakage shall be determined as agreed..." and "in accordance with approved procedure" does not prescribe the test procedure or acceptance criteria. EN14620 references NF A09-106. Although EN 14620 compliance is required, the tracer gas testing procedure and acceptance criteria should be stated. 7.4.2.3.3: "Additional" tracer gas testing is required if more than 4 leaks per 1000m2. "Additional" is extremely vague. How much more testing is required either per area or per tank? If only one additional test is required for each 1000 m2, the wording should be revised to state “An additional tracer gas test is required within the 1000m2 leak test area if more than 4 leaks per 1000 m2 are found.” This comment was previously submitted and not addressed. 7.4.2.3.4(c): Where is the acceptance criteria for this final global test? How can NFPA59A accept such a critical test without any acceptance criteria? This comment was previously submitted and not addressed. 7.4.6.5: The first two sentences pertain to tests done during new tank construction. In contrast, the last sentence refers to ongoing monitoring during tank operation. Therefore, this tank operation requirement should be separated from the new construction test requirements. Perhaps it should be moved to chapter 10 with other types of tank monitoring.

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Table 15.6.1: This table is entitled “Example Component Failure Database” and currently gives the “Annual Probability of Failure” for single, double, and full containment tanks. The proposed change to Table 15.6.1 would assign membrane tanks the same probability of failure as a full containment tank and incorrectly states that a membrane tank has a primary and secondary container. The proposed wording for item 3 follows. Component Annual Probability of Failure (3) Instantaneous failure of primary and secondary container, release of entire tank contents (full and membrane containment tanks)

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The membrane tank should be listed separately and stated as the “Instantaneous failure of the membrane and concrete container”. More importantly, the annual probability of failure of a primary and secondary container of a full containment tank is not equal to the instantaneous failure of the outer container of a membrane tank. The outer wall of a membrane tank is the only containment structure provided by a membrane tank. Structurally, a membrane tank is a single containment tank. In addition, the outer wall of a membrane tank is fully exposed to external loads and ambient conditions. The outer concrete wall of a full containment tank can withstand significant damage up to an including perforation without a release of the tank contents due to the independent and redundant containment capability of the inner tank. The outer concrete wall of a membrane tank only needs to be damaged sufficiently so that the outer wall can no longer withstand the full hydrostatic forces of the product to release the tank contents. Even if the outer wall of a membrane tank is designed for higher external loads, the single structural containment outer wall of a membrane tank is exposed to ambient conditions and does not have durability equal to the durability of the inner tank of a full containment tank which is cryogenically preserved.

NFPA 59A paragraph 1.3 states the following:

Equivalency. Nothing in this standard is intended to prevent the use of systems, methods, or devices of equivalent or superior quality, strength, fire resistance, effectiveness, durability, and safety over those prescribed by this standard. The membrane tank is not equivalent to a conventional full containment tank in strength, fire resistance, durability, and safety as implied by the proposed changes to NFPA 59A. It is the duty of this standard to clearly describe each containment structure which the proposed amendment does not do and is, in fact, misleading.

 

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