NFPA Technical Committee on Air Conditioning NFPA 90A and 90B Second Draft Web/Teleconference Meeting September 24, 2013 12:00 p.m. – 2:00 p.m. EDT AGENDA 1. Call to Order: Call meeting to order by Chair, Ralph Gerdes, at 12:00 p.m. on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 via conference call and Adobe Connect. 2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests: A current committee roster is attached. (Page 2) 3. Chair’s Remarks: Ralph Gerdes 4. Staff Comments: (NFPA procedural issues, etc.) – Allan Fraser 5. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes: Approve the November 1, 2012 First Draft meeting minutes (Page 6) 6. Review of Public Comments for the 2014 Edition of NFPA 90A: Review of (8) Public Comments for 90A (Page 10) 7. Review of Public Comments for the 2014 Edition of 90B: Review of (2) Public Comments for 90B (Page 23) 8. Other Business: 9. Adjournment: Page 1 of 25
Transcript
NFPA Technical Committee on Air Conditioning
NFPA 90A and 90B Second Draft Web/Teleconference Meeting
September 24, 2013 12:00 p.m. – 2:00 p.m. EDT
AGENDA
1. Call to Order:
Call meeting to order by Chair, Ralph Gerdes, at 12:00 p.m. on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 via conference call and Adobe Connect.
2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests: A current committee roster is attached. (Page 2) 3. Chair’s Remarks: Ralph Gerdes 4. Staff Comments: (NFPA procedural issues, etc.) – Allan Fraser
5. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes:
Approve the November 1, 2012 First Draft meeting minutes (Page 6)
6. Review of Public Comments for the 2014 Edition of NFPA 90A:
Review of (8) Public Comments for 90A (Page 10) 7. Review of Public Comments for the 2014 Edition of 90B:
Review of (2) Public Comments for 90B (Page 23) 8. Other Business: 9. Adjournment:
Page 1 of 25
Address List No PhoneAir Conditioning AIC-AAA
Allan Fraser08/22/2013
AIC-AAA
Ralph D. Gerdes
ChairRalph Gerdes Consultants, LLC5510 South East Street, Suite EIndianapolis, IN 46227
SE 08/09/2012AIC-AAA
Charles E. Altizer
PrincipalVirginia State Fire Marshal’s OfficeVirginia Department of Fire Programs1005 Technology Park DriveGlen Allen, VA 23059-4500International Fire Marshals Association
PrincipalHughes Associates, Inc.3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652Alternate: Ajay V. Prasad
SE 4/16/1999
AIC-AAA
James S. Buckley
PrincipalJacobs5985 Rogerdale RoadHouston, TX 77072American Society for Heating, Refrigeration & AirConditioning Engineers Inc.
IM 1/17/1997AIC-AAA
Merton W. Bunker, Jr.
PrincipalUS Department of State22 Gray Birch CourtStafford, VA 22554
U 7/26/2007
AIC-AAA
Laurence W. Caraway, Jr.
PrincipalKitchen Klean Inc.AirDuct Clean27 Black Hall RoadPO Box 754Epsom, NH 03234National Air Duct Cleaners Association
IM 3/21/2006AIC-AAA
Michael Earl Dillon
PrincipalDillon Consulting Engineers, Inc.671 Quincy AvenueLong Beach, CA 90814-1818Alternate: Diane B. Copeland
SE 1/1/1980
AIC-AAA
James T. Dollard, Jr.
PrincipalIBEW Local Union 981701 Spring Garden StreetPhiladelphia, PA 19130International Brotherhood of Electrical WorkersAlternate: Harold C. Ohde
L 7/14/2004AIC-AAA
Thomas M. Dusza
PrincipalThe RJA GroupRolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.2125 Oak Grove Road, Suite 300Walnut Creek, CA 94598Alternate: Charles Joyce
SE 4/1/1993
AIC-AAA
Thomas P. Hammerberg
PrincipalAutomatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.14 Sammy McGhee Boulevard, #103PO Box 1569Jasper, GA 30143Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Alternate: David L. Hall
M 10/27/2005AIC-AAA
J. C. Harrington
PrincipalFM Global1151 Boston Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102
I 10/27/2005
1Page 2 of 25
Address List No PhoneAir Conditioning AIC-AAA
Allan Fraser08/22/2013
AIC-AAA
Jonathan Hartsell
PrincipalRodgers5701 North Sharon Amity RoadCharlotte, NC 28215
IM 07/29/2013AIC-AAA
Thomas L. Hedges
PrincipalHedges Electric & Construction, Inc.633 Brazos Street, Suite 6Ramona, CA 92065National Electrical Contractors Association
IM 3/2/2010
AIC-AAA
Marcelo M. Hirschler
PrincipalGBH International2 Friar’s LaneMill Valley, CA 94941American Fire Safety Council/Plenum Cable Assn.
M 10/3/2002AIC-AAA
Charles C. Holt
PrincipalNational Energy Management Institute601 North Fairfax Street, Suite 240Alexandria, VA 22314Sheet Metal Workers’ International Association
L 11/2/2006
AIC-AAA
Eli P. Howard, III
PrincipalSheet Metal & Air Conditioning Contractors Natl. Assn.4201 Lafayette Center DriveChantilly, VA 20151-1219Alternate: Mark Terzigni
IM 7/22/1999AIC-AAA
Marvin A. Koerber
PrincipalATCO Rubber Products Inc.584 Crooked RoadAbbeville, SC 29620Air Diffusion CouncilAlternate: Ralph A. Koerber
M 1/1/1985
AIC-AAA
William E. Koffel
PrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Society of the Plastics Industry, Inc.
M 11/2/2006AIC-AAA
Richard E. Loyd
PrincipalR & N Associates24623 South Rocky Brook DriveSun Lakes, AZ 85248-6593American Iron and Steel InstituteAlternate: Robert J. Wills
M 7/28/2006
AIC-AAA
Timothy J. Orris
PrincipalAMCA International, Inc.30 West University DriveArlington Heights, IL 60004-1893Air Movement & Control Association
M 10/27/2005AIC-AAA
Thomas E. Ponder
PrincipalCertainTeed Corporation1400 Union Meeting RoadBlue Bell, PA 19422North American Insulation Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: Charles C. Cottrell
M 1/1/1990
AIC-AAA
Suresh K. Shah
PrincipalUS Department of Health & Human ServicesIndian Health ServicesDivision of Engineering Services-Dallas1301 Young Street, Suite 1071Dallas, TX 75202
U 4/28/2000AIC-AAA
Dwayne E. Sloan
PrincipalUL LLC12 Laboratory DrivePO Box 13995Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-3995Alternate: Randall K. Laymon
RT 4/14/2005
2Page 3 of 25
Address List No PhoneAir Conditioning AIC-AAA
Allan Fraser08/22/2013
AIC-AAA
George A. Straniero
PrincipalAFC Cable Systems, Inc.106 Village Center DriveFreehold, NJ 07728National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: Isaac I. Papier
M 9/30/2004AIC-AAA
Randolph W. Tucker
Principalccrd partners808 Travis, Suite 200Houston, TX 77002Alternate: Amando Lyndyll Hisole
SE 4/1/1996
AIC-AAA
Robert A. Wessel
PrincipalGypsum Association6525 Belcrest Road, Suite 480Hyattsville, MD 20782Alternate: Michael A. Gardner
M 4/17/1998AIC-AAA
Frank Wang
Voting AlternateAon Fire Protection Engineering707 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 2600Los Angeles, CA 90017Voting Alt. to AON Rep.
I 10/29/2012
AIC-AAA
Diane B. Copeland
AlternateDillon Consulting Engineers, Inc.671 Quincy AvenueLong Beach, CA 90814-1818Principal: Michael Earl Dillon
SE 4/15/2004AIC-AAA
Charles C. Cottrell
AlternateNorth American Insulation Manufacturers Assn.44 Canal Center Plaza, Suite 310Alexandria, VA 22314Principal: Thomas E. Ponder
M 10/27/2009
AIC-AAA
Michael A. Gardner
AlternateGypsum Association6525 Belcrest Road, Suite 480Hyattsville, MD 20782Principal: Robert A. Wessel
M 10/29/2012AIC-AAA
David L. Hall
AlternateAir Products and Controls Inc.1749 East HighwoodPontiac, MI 48340Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Principal: Thomas P. Hammerberg
M 7/28/2006
AIC-AAA
Amando Lyndyll Hisole
Alternateccrd partners808 Travis, Suite 200Houston, TX 77002Principal: Randolph W. Tucker
SE 10/29/2012AIC-AAA
Charles Joyce
AlternateThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.360 West 31st Street, Suite 900New York, NY 10001Principal: Thomas M. Dusza
AlternateUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Principal: Dwayne E. Sloan
RT 7/12/2001
3Page 4 of 25
Address List No PhoneAir Conditioning AIC-AAA
Allan Fraser08/22/2013
AIC-AAA
Harold C. Ohde
AlternateIBEW-NECA Technical Institute9318 South Longwood AvenueChicago, IL 60643International Brotherhood of Electrical WorkersPrincipal: James T. Dollard, Jr.
L 7/14/2004AIC-AAA
Isaac I. Papier
AlternateHoneywell, Inc.Honeywell Life Safety3825 Ohio AvenueSt. Charles, IL 60174-5465National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationPrincipal: George A. Straniero
M 10/27/2005
AIC-AAA
Ajay V. Prasad
AlternateHughes Associates, Inc.3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652Principal: Jesse J. Beitel
SE 03/07/2013AIC-AAA
Mark Terzigni
AlternateSheet Metal & Air Conditioning Contractors Natl. Assn.4201 Lafayette Center DriveChantilly, VA 20151-1219Principal: Eli P. Howard, III
IM 8/2/2010
AIC-AAA
Robert J. Wills
AlternateAmerican Iron and Steel Institute907 Spyglass CircleBirmingham, AL 35244-2252Principal: Richard E. Loyd
M 1/1/1992AIC-AAA
Allan Fraser
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
6/9/2003
4Page 5 of 25
Technical Committee on Air Conditioning – First Draft Meeting November 1, 2012 Page 1
1
First Draft Meeting Minutes (Revised)
Technical Committee on Air Conditioning November 1, 2012 at 2:00pm (eastern)
Online Meeting from NFPA Headquarters
Quincy, MA
Item 1, Call to Order
The First Draft meeting was called to order by Chair Ralph Gerdes at 2:00 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012 at NFPA Headquarters, Quincy, MA via Adobe Connect Online Meeting.
Item 2, Introduction of Members and Guests The Chair opened the meeting with welcoming remarks. The Chair provided a general overview of the agenda and opening remarks. Self-introductions of meeting participants and guests were conducted on each day at the beginning of the session.
Those who were present at the meeting are listed below:
Name Representing
Ralph Gerdes, Principal (Chair) Ralph Gerdes Consultants, LLC
Charles E. Altizer, Principal International Fire Marshals Association
Jesse J. Beitel, Principal Hughes Associates, Inc.
Thomas Dusza, Principal The RJA Group, Inc.
John Harrington, Principal FM Global
Marcelo M. Hirschler, Principal American Fire Safety Council/Plenum Cable Assn.
William Koffel, Principal Society of the Plastics Industry, Inc.
Page 6 of 25
Technical Committee on Air Conditioning – First Draft Meeting November 1, 2012 Page 2
2
Richard Loyd, Principal American Iron & Steel Institute
Timothy Orris Air Movement and Control Association
Thomas E. Ponder, Principal North American Insulation Manufacturers Association
Suresh K. Shah, Principal US Department of Health & Human Services
Dwayne Sloan, Principal Underwriters Laboratories Inc.
David Hall, Alt. to Hammerberg Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.
Ralph A. Koerber, Alt. to M. Koerber Air Diffusion Council
Harold C. Ohde, Alt. to Dollard International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Issac Papier, Alt. to G. Straneiro National Electrical Manufacturers Assoc. (NEMA)
Robert Van Becelaere, Alt. to Orris Air Movement & Control Association
Allan Fraser, NFPA Staff Liaison NFPA
Jenny Depew, NFPA Staff NFPA
Michael Wixted, NFPA Staff NFPA
Item 3, Staff Comments Allan Fraser gave a short presentation on the new NFPA Codes & Standards process and the specific process for the First Draft phase. Item 4, Approval of Minutes The Committee approved the minutes of the November 9, 2010 ROC meeting as written. Item 5 Review of Public Input received for NFPA 90B The committee reviewed and acted on twelve (12) public inputs and developed ten (10) first revisions to 90B. Item 6, Review of Public Input for NFPA 90A
Page 7 of 25
Technical Committee on Air Conditioning – First Draft Meeting November 1, 2012 Page 3
3
The committee reviewed 30 public inputs and developed twenty-one (21) first revisions to 90A. Item 7, New Business: The committee voted unanimously to direct staff to submit a PI to NFPA 701, in the committee’s name, requesting the changes attached here on page 4. Item 8, Next Meeting: Date, location and type (face to face or online) will be determined after public comments are received. Item 9, Adjournment. On Thursday, November 1, 2012, the meeting was adjourned at 5:45 pm by the Chair, Ralph Gerdes. Minutes prepared by Allan B. Fraser, CBI, CPCA, NFPA Staff Liaison
Page 8 of 25
Technical Committee on Air Conditioning – First Draft Meeting November 1, 2012 Page 4
4
1.1* Scope.
1.1.1* Test Method 1.
1.1.1.1 Test Method 1 shall apply to fabrics or other materials used in curtains, draperies, or other
window treatments. Vinyl‐coated fabric blackout linings shall be tested according to Test Method 2.
1.1.1.2 When required, Test Method 1 shall apply to fabrics meeting the requirements of 1.1.1.4 and
used in other construction applications.
1.1.1.23 Test Method 1 shall apply to single‐layer fabrics and to multilayer fabrics curtain and drapery
assemblies in which the layers are fastened together by sewing or other means. Vinyl‐coated fabric
blackout linings shall be tested according to Test Method 2.
1.1.1. 43 Test Method 1 shall apply to specimens having an areal density less than or equal to 700 g/m2
(21 oz/yd2), except where Test Method 2 is required to be used by 1.1.2.
1.1.2 Test Method 2.
1.1.2.1 Test Method 2 (flat specimen configuration) shall be used for fabrics, including multilayered
fabrics, films, and plastic blinds, with or without reinforcement or backing, with areal densities greater
than 700 g/m2 (21 oz/yd2).
1.1.2.2 Test Method 2 shall be used for testing vinyl‐coated fabric blackout linings and lined draperies
using a vinyl‐coated fabric blackout lining.
1.1.2.3 Test Method 2 shall be used for testing plastic films or fabrics, with or without reinforcement
or backing, when used for decorative or other purposes inside a building or as temporary or permanent
enclosures for buildings under construction.
1.1.2.4 Test Method 2 shall apply to fabrics used in the assembly of awnings, tents, tarps, and similar
architectural fabric structures and banners.
Page 9 of 25
Public Comment No. 8-NFPA 90A-2013 [ New Section after 1.5 ]
Exceptions
NFPA 90A is not applicable to areas of Nuclear Processing Facilities whose primary purpose is for construction/maintenance access and routing of pipes and cables even when ducts are routed in these area and supply/return airflow exists in these areas. The flow of air in these areas is necessary to support the nuclear ventilationconcept of flowing air from the cleanest areas to the areas of greater contamination and assists in assuring differential pressures between these areas and process rooms are maintained for building air balance purposes.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
Design of Nuclear Processing Facilities often utilize "attic" areas above "process rooms" for routing of pipes, cables, ducts, etc. This area is positively pressurized (a portion of the supply air is discharged into this area) so that clean air from the ventilation supply system is forced into the process rooms if any leaks are present between the atttic area and the process room. This maintains proper contamination control. The attic area is primarily used for construction/maintenance access, routing of pipes and cables through the building, and for routing of the duct/plenums through the building. The attic area while able to be inhabited for construction/maintenance operations is not normally occupied. Ventilation in a Nuclear Facility such as described above is "once through."
Treating the attic area as a plenum (caused by the fact supply air is discharged into this area) in a Nuclear Processing Facility results in a significant increase in cost by requiring the use of plenum rated cable and/or conduit in this area. A large amount of cable is usually present in these facilities due to the remote operations necessary in such facilities. The risk from smoke spread into the facility from the attic area is minimal. Once through ventilation eliminates the potential for "recycle" of the smoke. While the size of such a facility can often be large (much greater than 25,000 sq. ft.) the number of personnel in them is small and personnel are trained on egress from the facility using multiple patyhways.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: THOMAS DAVIS
Organization: SAVANNAH RIVER NUCLEAR SOL
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Apr 08 10:30:29 EDT 2013
Copyright Assignment
I, THOMAS DAVIS, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
Page 1 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
By checking this box I affirm that I am THOMAS DAVIS, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 2 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
Public Comment No. 15-NFPA 90A-2013 [ Section No. 2.3.2 ]
2.3.2 ASTM International Publications.ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.
ASTM C 411, Standard Test Method for Hot-Surface Performance of High-Temperature Thermal Insulation, 2011.
ASTM D 93, Standard Test Methods for Flashpoint by Pensky-Martens Closed Cup Tester, 2011 2012 .
ASTM E 84, Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2012 2013 .
ASTM E 119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials, 2012 a .
ASTM E 136, Standard Test Method for Behavior of Materials in a Vertical Tube Furnace at 750°C, 2011 2012 .
ASTM E 2231, Standard Practice for Specimen Preparation and Mounting of Pipe and Duct Insulation Materials to Assess Surface BurningCharacteristics, 2009.
ASTM E 2652, Standard Test Method for Behavior of Materials in a Tube Furnace with a Cone-shaped Airflow Stabilizer, at 750°C, (2009a) 2012 .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
Standards date updates
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler
Organization: GBH International
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Apr 26 15:21:34 EDT 2013
Page 3 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
I, Marcelo Hirschler, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am Marcelo Hirschler, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 4 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
Public Comment No. 9-NFPA 90A-2013 [ Section No. 2.3.6 ]
2.3.6 UL Publications.Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
ANSI/UL 181, Standard for Safety Factory-Made Air Ducts and Air Connectors, 2005, Revised 2008.
ANSI/UL 181A, Standard for Safety Closure Systems for Use with Rigid Air Ducts, 2005, Revised 2008.
ANSI/UL 181B, Standard for Safety Closure Systems for Use with Flexible Air Ducts and Air Connectors, 2005, Revised 2008.
ANSI/UL 263, Standard for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials, 2009.
ANSI/UL 555, Standard for Safety Fire Dampers, 2006, Revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 555C, Standard for Safety Ceiling Dampers, 2006, Revised 2010.
ANSI/UL 555S, Standard for Safety Smoke Dampers, 1999, Revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 723, Standard for Test for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2008, Revised 2010.
ANSI/UL 867, Standard for Safety Electrostatic Air Cleaners, 2000, Revised 2011.
ANSI/UL 900, Standard for Safety Air Filter Units, 2004, Revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 1820, Standard for Safety Fire Test of Pneumatic Tubing for Flame and Smoke Characteristics, 2004, Revised 2009.
ANSI/UL 1887, Standard for Safety Fire Test of Plastic Sprinkler Pipe for Visible Flame and Smoke Characteristics, 2004, Revised 2009.
ANSI/UL 1995, Standard for Safety Heating and Cooling Equipment, 2011.
ANSI/UL 2024, Standard for Signaling, Optical Fiber and Communication Communications Raceways and Cable Routing Assemblies, 2011.
ANSI/UL 2043, Standard for Safety Fire Test for Heat and Visible Smoke Release for Discrete Products and Their Accessories Installed in Air-Handling Spaces, 2008.
Organization: Communications Cable & Connectivity Association
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Apr 23 08:37:10 EDT 2013
Copyright Assignment
I, Frank Peri, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am Frank Peri, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 6 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
Public Comment No. 14-NFPA 90A-2013 [ Section No. 4.3.11.2.6.4 ]
4.3.11.2.6.4Signaling, optical fiber , and communications raceways, and cable routing assemblies shall be listed as having a maximum peak optical density of 0.50 or less, an average optical density of 0.15 or less, and a maximum flame spread distance of 1.5 m (5 ft) or less when tested in accordance with ANSI/UL 2024, Standardfor Signaling, Optical Fiber and Communications Raceways and Cable Routing Assemblies. Cables installed within these raceways and cable routing assemblies shall be listed as plenum cable in accordance with the requirements in 4.3.11.2.6.1.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
Cable routing assemblies should be added to this Section as originally proposed. These products are specifically addressed as being different than raceways within the Standard UL2024 title, within the body of UL2024, and are specifically Listed under a separate UL certification category ‐ Cable Routing Assemblies (QBAA). The listing requirements (flame spread, peak and average optical density) for plenum grade cable routing assemblies are identical to the listing requirements for plenum grade communications raceways. The fire test in the UL 2024 standard is the NFPA 262 fire test which is used for plenum cables, consequently the flame spread, peak and average optical density requirements for cable routing assemblies, communications raceways and plenum cables are the same. There is no justification for including plenum cables and communications raceways and excluding cable routing assemblies; they are all listed to the same well-established flame spread and smoke requirements.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Frank Peri
Organization: Communications Cable & Connectivity Association
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Apr 26 07:53:16 EDT 2013
Copyright Assignment
Page 7 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
I, Frank Peri, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am Frank Peri, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 8 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
Public Comment No. 11-NFPA 90A-2013 [ Section No. 4.3.11.2.6.5 ]
4.3.11.2.6.5*Loudspeakers, recessed lighting fixtures, and other electrical equipment with combustible enclosures, including theirassemblies and accessories, non-metallic nonmetallic cable ties,wraps, nonmetallic cable supports, and other discrete products, shall be permitted in the ceiling cavity plenum where listed as having a maximum peak optical density of 0.5 or less, an average optical density of 0.15 or less, and a peak heat release rate of 100 kW or less when tested in accordance with ANSI/UL 2043, Standard for Safety Fire Test for Heat and Visible Smoke Release for Discrete Products and Their Accessories Installed in Air-Handling Spaces.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
This is an editorial comment to correct spelling.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Frank Peri
Organization: Communications Cable & Connectivity Association
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Apr 23 08:40:41 EDT 2013
Copyright Assignment
I, Frank Peri, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am Frank Peri, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 9 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
Public Comment No. 12-NFPA 90A-2013 [ Section No. 4.3.11.5.5.4 ]
4.3.11.5.5.4Signaling, optical fiber , and communications raceways, and cable routing assemblies shall be listed as having a maximum peak optical density of 0.50 or less, an average optical density of 0.15 or less, and a maximum flame spread distance of 1.5 m (5 ft) or less when tested in accordance with ANSI/UL 2024, Standardfor Signaling, Optical Fiber and Communications Raceways and Cable Routing Assemblies. Cables installed within these raceways and cable routing assemblies shall be listed as plenum cable in accordance with the requirements in 4.3.11.5.5.1.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
Cable routing assemblies should be added to this Section as originally proposed. These products are specifically addressed as being different than raceways within the Standard UL2024 title, within the body of UL2024, and are specifically Listed under a separate UL certification category ‐ Cable Routing Assemblies (QBAA).The listing requirements (flame spread, peak and average optical density) for plenum grade cable routing assemblies are identical to the listing requirements for plenum grade communications raceways. The fire test in the UL 2024 standard is the NFPA 262 fire test which is used for plenum cables, consequently the flame spread, peak and average optical density requirements for cable routing assemblies, communications raceways and plenum cables are the same.
There is no justification for including plenum cables and communications raceways and excluding cable routing assemblies; they are all listed to the same well-established flame spread and smoke requirements.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Frank Peri
Organization: Communications Cable & Connectivity Association
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Apr 23 08:42:04 EDT 2013
Copyright Assignment
Page 10 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
I, Frank Peri, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am Frank Peri, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 11 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
Public Comment No. 13-NFPA 90A-2013 [ Section No. A.4.3.11.2.6.5 ]
A.4.3.11.2.6.5Nonmetallic cable ties listed to ANSI/UL 62275, Cable Management Systems—Cable Ties for Electrical Installations, and nonmetallic cable supports listed to ANSI/UL 1565, Positioning Devices, and marked for use in plenums are considered suitable for use wherever nonmetallic cable ties or nonmetallic cable supports tested in accordance with ANSI/UL 2043, Standard for Safety Fire Test for Heat and Visible Smoke Release for Discrete Products and Their Accessories Installed in Air-Handling Spaces, are required.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
The recommended text correlates with 4.3.11.2.6.5 which deals with nonmetallic cable ties and nonmetallic cable supports.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Frank Peri
Organization: Communications Cable & Connectivity Association
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Apr 23 08:43:43 EDT 2013
Copyright Assignment
I, Frank Peri, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am Frank Peri, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 12 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 90A-2013 [ Section No. C.1.2.3 ]
C.1.2.3 ASTM International Publications.ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.
ASTM E 84, Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2012b 2013 .
ASTM E 136, Standard Test Method for Behavior of Materials in a Vertical Tube Furnace at 750°C, 2012.
ASTM E 2231, Standard Practice for Specimen Preparation and Mounting of Pipe and Duct Insulation Materials to Assess Surface Burning Characteristics, 2009.
ASTM E 2652, Standard Test Method for Behavior of Materials in a Tube Furnace with a Cone-Shaped Airflow Stabilizer, at 750°C, 2012.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
standards date updates
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler
Organization: GBH International
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Apr 26 15:28:00 EDT 2013
Copyright Assignment
I, Marcelo Hirschler, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am Marcelo Hirschler, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 13 of 13National Fire Protection Association Report
Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 90B-2013 [ Section No. 2.3.2 ]
2.3.2 ASTM Publications.ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.
ASTM C 411, Standard Test Method for Hot-Surface Performance of High-Temperature Thermal Insulation, 2011.
ASTM D 93, Standard Test Methods for Flash Point by Pensky-Martens Closed Cup Tester, 2010a 2012a .
ASTM E 84, Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2012b 2013 .
ASTM E 136, Standard Test Method for Behavior of Materials in a Vertical Tube Furnace at 750°C, 2012.
ASTM E 2231, Standard Practice for Specimen Preparation and Mounting of Pipe and Duct Insulation Materials to Assess Surface Burning Characteristics, 2009.
ASTM E 2652, Standard Test Method for Behavior of Materials in a Tube Furnace with a Cone-shaped Airflow Stabilizer, at 750°C, 2012.
ASTM E 2688, Standard Practice for Specimen Preparation and Mounting of Tapes to Assess Surface Burning Characteristics, 2012.
ASTM E 2690, Standard Practice for Specimen Preparation and Mounting of Caulks and Sealants to Assess Surface Burning Characteristics, 2010e2.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
standards date updates
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler
Organization: GBH International
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu May 02 19:20:28 EDT 2013
Copyright Assignment
I, Marcelo Hirschler, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
Page 1 of 3National Fire Protection Association Report
By checking this box I affirm that I am Marcelo Hirschler, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 2 of 3National Fire Protection Association Report
Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 90B-2013 [ Section No. B.1.2.1 ]
B.1.2.1 ASTM Publications.ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.
ASTM E 84, Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2010b 2013 .
ASTM E 2231, Standard Practice for Specimen Preparation and Mounting of Pipe and Duct Insulation Materials to Assess Surface Burning Characteristics, 2009.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
standards date updates
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler
Organization: GBH International
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu May 02 19:21:53 EDT 2013
Copyright Assignment
I, Marcelo Hirschler, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am Marcelo Hirschler, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature
Page 3 of 3National Fire Protection Association Report
